Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-21 Thread Lars Noodén
I'm still getting freezes nearly daily.  Some are temporary and last
only a few seconds and then let up.  The ones that last longer
eventually freeze also the mouse pointer and then the entire machine.

$ lsb_release -rd
Description:Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii)
Release:2.0

I have the latest Nouveau display driver:

$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | sed '1,3!d'
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau:
  Installed: 1:1.0.13-3
  Candidate: 1:1.0.13-3

What other packages should I look for?
Or are there any configuration settings that can mitigate this?

/Lars

PS.  Again here is the output from lshw:

$ sudo lshw -sanitize -class display
  *-display
   description: VGA compatible controller
   product: Intel Corporation
   vendor: Intel Corporation
   physical id: 2
   bus info: pci@:00:02.0
   version: 02
   width: 64 bits
   clock: 33MHz
   capabilities: pciexpress msi pm vga_controller bus_master
cap_list rom
   configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
   resources: irq:129 memory:dd00-ddff
memory:b000-bfff ioport:f000(size=64) memory:c-d
  *-display
   description: 3D controller
   product: GM108M [GeForce 940MX]
   vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
   physical id: 0
   bus info: pci@:01:00.0
   version: a2
   width: 64 bits
   clock: 33MHz
   capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom
   configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
   resources: irq:128 memory:de00-deff
memory:c000-cfff memory:d000-d1ff ioport:e000(size=128)
memory:df00-df07
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[DNG] which package repository mirror to use?

2018-04-21 Thread David Kuehling
Hi,

just wondering what sources.list I should use for upgrading devuan
ascii.  Depending on where I look I find either

 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged

or

 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/

There seem to be slight differences in the packages they hold (maybe
just due to latency when mirrors synchronize?)

I'm currently using the latter server.

cheers,

David
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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

2018-04-21 Thread David Kuehling
> "Irrwahn" == Irrwahn   writes:

[..]

> Here is where you can make a valuable contribution: If you happen to
> have a spare Devuan (Jessie|ASCII) or a Debian (Jessie|Stretch)
> desktop machine (virtual or hardware) that you feel brave enough to
> sacrifice for testing the upgrade paths - please do so! Ideally, you
> should report any irregularities you encounter in this thread. The
> main observation focus should be set on session related functionality,
> especially the ability to user mount removable drives and to restart
> or shutdown the machine using the controls offered by the respective
> desktop environment.

I upgraded from Devuan jessie to Devuan ascii last week without
problems.  However, after upgrading system shutdown from the XFCE menu
did not work any more.  Shutting down manually via the linux console
('halt') did work.  However during shutdown it then complained something
about crypto disks not being stopped (running encrypted root with lvm).

Now after reading this email I just ran another round of 'apt-get update
&& apt-get dist-upgrade' and things look a little better now: shutdown
via xfce menu works, however, during shutdown it does not show any of
the shutdown messages any more, so I cannot verify whether crypto disk
unmounting works any better now.

cheers,

David
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Re: [DNG] which package repository mirror to use?

2018-04-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 10:29:23AM +0200, David Kuehling wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> just wondering what sources.list I should use for upgrading devuan
> ascii.  Depending on where I look I find either
> 
>  http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged
> 
> or
> 
>  http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/
> 
> There seem to be slight differences in the packages they hold (maybe
> just due to latency when mirrors synchronize?)
> 
> I'm currently using the latter server.


*.mirror.devuan.org, amprolla.devuan.org, and packages.devuan.org are
based on the original amprolla, which takes about 20 hours to do a
merge. So these can be late on updates.

pkgmaster.devuan.org, deb.devuan.org and *.deb.devuan.org are a new
set of mirrors (14 in total) all based on the second amprolla rewrite
(amprolla3), which does a full merge in a few minutes and incremental
ones in a few seconds (every 2 minutes).

The latter set of mirrors will be the default for ascii. They can also
be used in jessie, but you need to install a recent devuan-keyring
package for that. 

HTH

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

2018-04-21 Thread fsmithred
On 04/21/2018 04:46 AM, David Kuehling wrote:
> about crypto disks not being stopped (running encrypted root with lvm).
> 
> Now after reading this email I just ran another round of 'apt-get update
> && apt-get dist-upgrade' and things look a little better now: shutdown
> via xfce menu works, however, during shutdown it does not show any of
> the shutdown messages any more, so I cannot verify whether crypto disk
> unmounting works any better now.

Aren't you getting a half-minute delay on shutdown? There are some debian
bug reports about this with various fixes proposed. This one worked for me:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8300#p8300

I don't know what to do about the missing messages.

fsmithred

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Re: [DNG] Help testing Devuan 2 ASCII installer and upgrades!

2018-04-21 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl

On 19-04-18 12:16, Irrwahn wrote:

Dear Devuaners,

the Devuan team is currently working towards a Release Candidate for
Devuan 2 "ASCII". Most of the parts should be already in place, but
particularly in the policykit/consolekit/elogind area we are in need of
some more thorough testing in order to guarantee correct installation
of any of the supported desktop environments as well as smooth upgrades
of existing installations.

Here is where you can make a valuable contribution: If you happen to
have a spare Devuan (Jessie|ASCII) or a Debian (Jessie|Stretch) desktop
machine (virtual or hardware) that you feel brave enough to sacrifice
for testing the upgrade paths - please do so! Ideally, you should report
any irregularities you encounter in this thread. The main observation
focus should be set on session related functionality, especially the
ability to user mount removable drives and to restart or shutdown the
machine using the controls offered by the respective desktop environment.

Furthermore, testing fresh installs in various configurations using the
latest ASCII mini.iso [1] will be much appreciated, although we should
already have a pretty good coverage in that area, but more testing is
always a Good Thing[TM].

Thank you very much, any help you can offer is much appreciated!

Best regards
Urban

[1] Available here:
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ascii/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
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Updated from debian jessie to devuan ascii on a very minimal hosted 
server (apache2 for testing purposes).


Changed sources.list to my own mirror and ascii
apt-get update
apt-get install devuan-keyring
apt-get dist-upgrade
Everything fine except that systemd will not be removed
Reboot after checking sysvinit core has been installed
apt-get dist-upgrade
And system is now devuan ascii!!!

Grtz.

Nick

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Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 11:29:36 +0300, Lars wrote in message 
<4be922af-f137-8de8-5337-ee846cd59...@gmail.com>:

> I'm still getting freezes nearly daily.  Some are temporary and last
> only a few seconds and then let up.  The ones that last longer
> eventually freeze also the mouse pointer and then the entire machine.
> 
> $ lsb_release -rd
> Description:  Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii)
> Release:  2.0
> 
> I have the latest Nouveau display driver:

..me too, works fine here, I had my first freeze in 2018, yesterday,
probably because I leave X sessions running for months, I do lock
my screen when I e.g. go shopping. ;o)

> $ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | sed '1,3!d'
> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau:
>   Installed: 1:1.0.13-3
>   Candidate: 1:1.0.13-3
> 
> What other packages should I look for?
> Or are there any configuration settings that can mitigate this?
> 
> /Lars
> 
> PS.  Again here is the output from lshw:
> 
> $ sudo lshw -sanitize -class display
>   *-display
>description: VGA compatible controller
>product: Intel Corporation
>vendor: Intel Corporation
>physical id: 2
>bus info: pci@:00:02.0
>version: 02
>width: 64 bits
>clock: 33MHz
>capabilities: pciexpress msi pm vga_controller bus_master
> cap_list rom
>configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
>resources: irq:129 memory:dd00-ddff
> memory:b000-bfff ioport:f000(size=64) memory:c-d
>   *-display
>description: 3D controller
>product: GM108M [GeForce 940MX]
>vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
>physical id: 0
>bus info: pci@:01:00.0
>version: a2
>width: 64 bits
>clock: 33MHz
>capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom
>configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
>resources: irq:128 memory:de00-deff
> memory:c000-cfff memory:d000-d1ff
> ioport:e000(size=128) memory:df00-df07


..you have 2 video cards fighting each other for access to your 
screen hw???  Choose one, I recommend nouveau on your GM108M.


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Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 04/21/2018 08:17 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
[snip]
> ..you have 2 video cards fighting each other for access to your 
> screen hw???  Choose one, I recommend nouveau on your GM108M.

Thanks.  I thought that was sorted automatically.  What do I need to set
to prioritize one over the other?

/Lars

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Re: [DNG] Unable to Install

2018-04-21 Thread Vernon Geiszler
> From: KatolaZ 

> Have you verified the checksum? What is the exact error that you get?
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ

The issue has been resolved.  I used a different hard drive, usb stick
and usb port.  This time it did install.

Vernon
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Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 20:37:24 +0300, Lars wrote in message 
:

> On 04/21/2018 08:17 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> [snip]
> > ..you have 2 video cards fighting each other for access to your 
> > screen hw???  Choose one, I recommend nouveau on your GM108M.  
> 
> Thanks.  I thought that was sorted automatically.  What do I need to
> set to prioritize one over the other?

..me too. 8o)  For me, it just worked fine, even without 
an /etc/X11/xorg.conf or an /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ tree. 


..so, your guinea pig recipe: Kill X 'n try:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/25746/etc-x11-xorg-conf-doesnt-exist#25749

..if your xorg.conf.new doesn't mention nouveau, edit it in: ...
Section "Device"
Identifier "Nvidia card"
Driver "nouveau"
EndSection

...and kill X again to retry startx.


..troubleshooting ideas: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau


.."dual boot" ideas:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Nouveau_%26_nvidia-drivers_switching


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