Re: [DNG] https://files.devua.org

[Jaromil]

On Sat, 07 May 2016, Marlon Nunes wrote:

> Same here from Brasil.
> >There is "502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.9.10" error on
> >https://files.devuan.org since yesterday.

rsync was under heavy load and OOM killed.

now back to normal, we are also working so these situation do not go
unnoticed for so many hours. lucky we have mirrors.

anyone running a mirror please review your crontab entry, it should be

42 */6 * * * rsync --delete -raX files.devuan.org::devuan 
/srv/mirrors/files.devuan.org

note the 42 minute at beginning. we had it wrong as an asterisk '*'
meaning it was running 60 times every 6 hours. This may be the cause
of DOSsing our infra. Or anything else. But no worries, we'll manage
anyway. Thanks to DocScrutinizer for noticing about this error.

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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[Jaromil]

On Sun, 08 May 2016, David Hare wrote:

> Testing this here with most impressive results! Some of us have been
> doing devuan-based live images since the beginning. This is probably
> the first without core system packages from 3rd-party repos ( the
> refracta snapshot and installer utilities are not actually "core
> system components").
> 
> Anyone who needs a fully-functional "Travelling OS", here it is. You
> can easily customize it with persistence and/or "live-hooks".

I'm very happy to read this works well, yet I haven't had time to test
it myself. I think we can take your reviews for granted, but please
test also the install and other functionalities. If this is considered
a good fit for a devuan live by this community then I think we can
call it "official" and include it in the upcoming beta2 release.

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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[fsmithred]

On 05/07/2016 08:36 PM, David Hare wrote:
> 
> http://refracta.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=569
> 

SPOILER ALERT!!! For anyone who didn't follow the link that David provided.


David,

Thanks for posting instructions on creating a grub entry to boot the iso
directly from hard drive without virtualization. I always forget about
that method, and it occurs to me that I should start doing that on the
laptop. I've locked up my system more than once by running too many VMs at
the same time.

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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[David Hare]

> please test also the install and other functionalities

OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
ram.

One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer
had failed to sort etc/slim.conf for the new username. I used startx,
edited manually and rebooted, now all is good.

One more. The rather elegantly styled grub menu lists "GNU/Linux" or
"Unknown Linux Distribution", it didn't parse "Devuan". This was
discussed before, I can't remember just now how I fixed that on my
other install..

On 8 May 2016 at 11:05, fsmithred  wrote:
> On 05/07/2016 08:36 PM, David Hare wrote:
>>
>> http://refracta.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=569
>>
>
> SPOILER ALERT!!! For anyone who didn't follow the link that David provided.
>
>
> David,
>
> Thanks for posting instructions on creating a grub entry to boot the iso
> directly from hard drive without virtualization. I always forget about
> that method, and it occurs to me that I should start doing that on the
> laptop. I've locked up my system more than once by running too many VMs at
> the same time.
>
> -fsr
>
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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[David Hare]

echo 'GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo
Debian`'  >> /etc/default/grub

Sorted, menu now shows "Devuan" after update-grub. This file is also
missing some other (mostly commented but informative) lines.

On 8 May 2016 at 12:24, David Hare  wrote:
>> please test also the install and other functionalities
>
> OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
> real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
> ram.
>
> One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer
> had failed to sort etc/slim.conf for the new username. I used startx,
> edited manually and rebooted, now all is good.
>
> One more. The rather elegantly styled grub menu lists "GNU/Linux" or
> "Unknown Linux Distribution", it didn't parse "Devuan". This was
> discussed before, I can't remember just now how I fixed that on my
> other install..
>
> On 8 May 2016 at 11:05, fsmithred  wrote:
>> On 05/07/2016 08:36 PM, David Hare wrote:
>>>
>>> http://refracta.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=569
>>>
>>
>> SPOILER ALERT!!! For anyone who didn't follow the link that David provided.
>>
>>
>> David,
>>
>> Thanks for posting instructions on creating a grub entry to boot the iso
>> directly from hard drive without virtualization. I always forget about
>> that method, and it occurs to me that I should start doing that on the
>> laptop. I've locked up my system more than once by running too many VMs at
>> the same time.
>>
>> -fsr
>>
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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[fsmithred]

On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote:
>> please test also the install and other functionalities
> 
> OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
> real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
> ram.
> 
> One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer
> had failed to sort etc/slim.conf for the new username. I used startx,
> edited manually and rebooted, now all is good.
> 

Thanks. I thought I added slim to that section of the installer last year,
but I guess not. Will do. I see "default_user" (why twice?) and
"auto_login". Easy.


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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[Hendrik Boom]

On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 12:24:33PM +0100, David Hare wrote:
> > please test also the install and other functionalities
> 
> OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
> real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
> ram.
> 
> One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer
> had failed to sort etc/slim.conf for the new username. I used startx,
> edited manually and rebooted, now all is good.

So I google etc/slim.conf to fid out what it is, and on the  first link 
I find 
Warning: The SliM project has been abandoned (the project homepage is 
down, leaving a github mirror), 

That's on the archwiki

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM

They also warn that it's incompatible with systemd.

I hope that's an arch-specific abandonment.
The gentoo page doesn't have this warning.

-- hendrik


> 
> One more. The rather elegantly styled grub menu lists "GNU/Linux" or
> "Unknown Linux Distribution", it didn't parse "Devuan". This was
> discussed before, I can't remember just now how I fixed that on my
> other install..
> 
> On 8 May 2016 at 11:05, fsmithred  wrote:
> > On 05/07/2016 08:36 PM, David Hare wrote:
> >>
> >> http://refracta.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=569
> >>
> >
> > SPOILER ALERT!!! For anyone who didn't follow the link that David provided.
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Thanks for posting instructions on creating a grub entry to boot the iso
> > directly from hard drive without virtualization. I always forget about
> > that method, and it occurs to me that I should start doing that on the
> > laptop. I've locked up my system more than once by running too many VMs at
> > the same time.
> >
> > -fsr
> >
> >
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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[David Hare]

Next test .. run refractasnapshot on my new install, while it's still clean.

Writing now from a "live session" of the resulting ISO, no apparent
problem whatsoever.

D


On 8 May 2016 at 13:07, fsmithred  wrote:
> On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote:
>>> please test also the install and other functionalities
>>
>> OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
>> real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
>> ram.
>>
>> One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer
>> had failed to sort etc/slim.conf for the new username. I used startx,
>> edited manually and rebooted, now all is good.
>>
>
> Thanks. I thought I added slim to that section of the installer last year,
> but I guess not. Will do. I see "default_user" (why twice?) and
> "auto_login". Easy.
>
>
> -fsr
>
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Re: [DNG] Fwd: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing

[fsmithred]

On 05/08/2016 01:18 AM, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> FYI !!!
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Debian testing autoremoval watch 
> Date: Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:39 PM
> Subject: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing
> To: live-b...@packages.debian.org
> 
> 
> live-boot 1:20151213 is marked for autoremoval from testing on 2016-05-29
> 
> It is affected by these RC bugs:
> 823069: live-boot-initramfs-tools: Kernel panic while booting live with
> Debian stretch busybox/live packages
> 
> 
> 

This sounds a bit like the problem we were having with Refracta when
util-linux got upgraded to 2.25. One of the fixes for that was to populate
/dev in filesystem.squashfs. I see that the solydxkee iso has an empty
/dev in the squashfs. Wish I understood it enough to explain it.

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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[fsmithred]

On 05/08/2016 08:24 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> So I google etc/slim.conf to fid out what it is, and on the  first link 
> I find 
> Warning: The SliM project has been abandoned (the project homepage is 
> down, leaving a github mirror), 
> 
> That's on the archwiki
> 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM
> 
> They also warn that it's incompatible with systemd.
> 
> I hope that's an arch-specific abandonment.
> The gentoo page doesn't have this warning.
> 
> -- hendrik
> 
> 


The github mirror has a readme that says:
"Note: This repository was used as backup source and is no longer maintained."


I'm using lightdm here. Didn't have to do anything special to get it to
work without systemd. Don't even have libsystemd0 installed on this box.

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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[Boruch Baum]

FWIW, +1 for lightdm. I switched in order to get keyboard and mouse
navigation to the greeter options. For integration with xfce, I did
need to perform a few extra steps. From memory, the 'switch user'
feature needed to be altered to use 'dm-tool' instead of
'gdmflexiserver', I ended up totally removing xfce4-power-manager and
its panel applet in favor acpid-only and the xfce battery applet, and
probably other stuff that I just don't remember.

The newer versions of Lightdm (I think its available in the testing
repo) allows for a webkit-based greeter for more eye-candy if that's
of interest to you, and also offers a gui configuration tool that's
pretty neat.

There's a 'light-locker' screen locking program that installs along
with lightdm, which includes a protection feature against X-M-Fn
switching. A complaint I have against it is that it doesn't seem to
offer anything other than a blank screen (no screensaver visual
feedback or eye-candy), and it doesn't switch to a greeter screen
until a delay after one begins typing, so one can easily misinterpret
the screen lock as some form of BSOD (blank screen of death).

On 2016-05-08 10:14, fsmithred wrote:
> On 05/08/2016 08:24 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > 
> > So I google etc/slim.conf to fid out what it is, and on the first
> > link I find Warning: The SliM project has been abandoned (the
> > project homepage is down, leaving a github mirror),
> > 
> > That's on the archwiki
> > 
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM
> > 
> > They also warn that it's incompatible with systemd.
> > 
> > I hope that's an arch-specific abandonment.
> > The gentoo page doesn't have this warning.
> > 
> > -- hendrik
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> The github mirror has a readme that says: "Note: This repository was
> used as backup source and is no longer maintained."
> 
> 
> I'm using lightdm here. Didn't have to do anything special to get it
> to work without systemd. Don't even have libsystemd0 installed on
> this box.
> 
> -fsr

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Re: [DNG] https://files.devua.org

[Marlon Nunes]

Its working now, thanks.


now back to normal, we are also working so these situation do not go
unnoticed for so many hours. lucky we have mirrors.


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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[Boruch Baum]

FWIW, +1 for lightdm. I switched in order to get keyboard and mouse
navigation to the greeter options. For integration with xfce, I did
need to perform a few extra steps. From memory, the 'switch user'
feature needed to be altered to use 'dm-tool' instead of
'gdmflexiserver', I ended up totally removing xfce4-power-manager and
its panel applet in favor acpid-only and the xfce battery applet, and
probably other stuff that I just don't remember.

The newer versions of Lightdm (I think its available in the testing
repo) allows for a webkit-based greeter for more eye-candy if that's
of interest to you, and also offers a gui configuration tool that's
pretty neat.

There's a 'light-locker' screen locking program that installs along
with lightdm, which includes a protection feature against X-M-Fn
switching. A complaint I have against it is that it doesn't seem to
offer anything other than a blank screen (no screensaver visual
feedback or eye-candy), and it doesn't switch to a greeter screen
until a delay after one begins typing, so one can easily misinterpret
the screen lock as some form of BSOD (blank screen of death).

On 2016-05-08 10:14, fsmithred wrote:
> On 05/08/2016 08:24 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > 
> > So I google etc/slim.conf to fid out what it is, and on the first
> > link I find Warning: The SliM project has been abandoned (the
> > project homepage is down, leaving a github mirror),
> > 
> > That's on the archwiki
> > 
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM
> > 
> > They also warn that it's incompatible with systemd.
> > 
> > I hope that's an arch-specific abandonment.
> > The gentoo page doesn't have this warning.
> > 
> > -- hendrik
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> The github mirror has a readme that says: "Note: This repository was
> used as backup source and is no longer maintained."
> 
> 
> I'm using lightdm here. Didn't have to do anything special to get it
> to work without systemd. Don't even have libsystemd0 installed on
> this box.
> 
> -fsr

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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[fsmithred]

On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote:
>> please test also the install and other functionalities
> 
> OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
> real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
> ram.
> 
> One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer
> had failed to sort etc/slim.conf for the new username. I used startx,
> edited manually and rebooted, now all is good.
> 


Fixed in refractainstaller 9.1.8 (-base and -gui).
https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/testing/

(Note: I won't mess with /etc/default/grub unless instructed from above to
do so.)

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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[David Hare]

> (Note: I won't mess with /etc/default/grub unless instructed from above to
do so.)

This needs fixing in Devuan, not refractainstaller. After my edit to
/etc/default/grub, the actual installation now shows correctly but
Devuan installs on other partitions still show as "unknown linux
distribution". There's an old list thread somewhere on that, I haven't
found it yet. I think it's to do with os-prober.

BTW refractainstaller pauses near the end, while the target partition
is still mounted, allowing do do any manual tweaks or edits.


On 8 May 2016 at 18:12, fsmithred  wrote:
> On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote:
>>> please test also the install and other functionalities
>>
>> OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
>> real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
>> ram.
>>
>> One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer
>> had failed to sort etc/slim.conf for the new username. I used startx,
>> edited manually and rebooted, now all is good.
>>
>
>
> Fixed in refractainstaller 9.1.8 (-base and -gui).
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/testing/
>
> (Note: I won't mess with /etc/default/grub unless instructed from above to
> do so.)
>
> -fsr
>
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Re: [DNG] Fwd: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing

[Ozi Traveller]

Hi fsmithred

I need to look into it further.

Thanks

Ozi

On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 10:25 PM, fsmithred  wrote:

> On 05/08/2016 01:18 AM, Ozi Traveller wrote:
> > FYI !!!
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Debian testing autoremoval watch 
> > Date: Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:39 PM
> > Subject: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing
> > To: live-b...@packages.debian.org
> >
> >
> > live-boot 1:20151213 is marked for autoremoval from testing on 2016-05-29
> >
> > It is affected by these RC bugs:
> > 823069: live-boot-initramfs-tools: Kernel panic while booting live with
> > Debian stretch busybox/live packages
> >
> >
> >
>
> This sounds a bit like the problem we were having with Refracta when
> util-linux got upgraded to 2.25. One of the fixes for that was to populate
> /dev in filesystem.squashfs. I see that the solydxkee iso has an empty
> /dev in the squashfs. Wish I understood it enough to explain it.
>
> -fsr
>
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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[David Hare]

Found it.. /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/90linux-distro .. here's a patch
I did long back:

127a128,130
> elif [ -e "$dir/etc/devuan_version" ]; then
> short="Devuan"
> long="$(printf "Devuan GNU/Linux (%s)\n" "$(cat 
> "$dir/etc/devuan_version")")"

On 8 May 2016 at 20:57, David Hare  wrote:
>> (Note: I won't mess with /etc/default/grub unless instructed from above to
> do so.)
>
> This needs fixing in Devuan, not refractainstaller. After my edit to
> /etc/default/grub, the actual installation now shows correctly but
> Devuan installs on other partitions still show as "unknown linux
> distribution". There's an old list thread somewhere on that, I haven't
> found it yet. I think it's to do with os-prober.
>
> BTW refractainstaller pauses near the end, while the target partition
> is still mounted, allowing do do any manual tweaks or edits.
>
>
> On 8 May 2016 at 18:12, fsmithred  wrote:
>> On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote:
 please test also the install and other functionalities
>>>
>>> OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
>>> real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
>>> ram.
>>>
>>> One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer
>>> had failed to sort etc/slim.conf for the new username. I used startx,
>>> edited manually and rebooted, now all is good.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Fixed in refractainstaller 9.1.8 (-base and -gui).
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/testing/
>>
>> (Note: I won't mess with /etc/default/grub unless instructed from above to
>> do so.)
>>
>> -fsr
>>
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Re: [DNG] Devuan installer

[Ozi Traveller]

Hi Aitor

I forget there is also a hook for method 2. It's only a few lines to remove
the text installer and add a hard link. It's a trimmed down version of the
hook from method 1.

Cheers
Ozi

On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Ozi Traveller 
wrote:

> Hi Aitor
>
> There 2 ways to customise the debian-install theme in live-build. I looked
> at changing the theme in rootskel-gtk years ago, but I found these methods
> less painful, It uses cpio.
>
> 1. a hook + another folder binary_debian-installer, with the theme. The
> hook could also be used to remove the text installer.
>
> 2. a specific folder (this was added in live-build 4.0, I think,
> called includes.installer
>
> Cheers
> Ozi
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 11:04 PM, aitor_czr  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 05/06/2016 04:40 PM, aitor_czr 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > On 05/06/2016 07:28 AM, Ozi Traveller 
>> >   wrote:
>>
>> >> >Does the Devuan graphical installer still support a banner across the 
>> >> >top>> >of the screen?
>>
>> > Of course, configuring the .udeb skeleton package.
>>
>>
>> The package is "rootskel-gtk". I did something mounths ago for bunsenlabs:
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/aitor_czr/rootskel-gtk/tree/master
>>
>> But..., if you use the .udeb package, instead of cpio, you need to build
>> devuan-installer.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>   Aitor.
>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[aitor_czr]

On 05/08/2016 05:21 PM, Boruch Baum  wrote:

FWIW, +1 for lightdm. I switched in order to get keyboard and mouse
navigation to the greeter options. For integration with xfce, I did
need to perform a few extra steps. From memory, the 'switch user'
feature needed to be altered to use 'dm-tool' instead of
'gdmflexiserver', I ended up totally removing xfce4-power-manager and
its panel applet in favor acpid-only and the xfce battery applet, and
probably other stuff that I just don't remember.

The newer versions of Lightdm (I think its available in the testing
repo) allows for a webkit-based greeter for more eye-candy if that's
of interest to you, and also offers a gui configuration tool that's
pretty neat.

There's a 'light-locker' screen locking program that installs along
with lightdm, which includes a protection feature against X-M-Fn
switching. A complaint I have against it is that it doesn't seem to
offer anything other than a blank screen (no screensaver visual
feedback or eye-candy), and it doesn't switch to a greeter screen
until a delay after one begins typing, so one can easily misinterpret
the screen lock as some form of BSOD (blank screen of death).

On 2016-05-08 10:14, fsmithred wrote:

>On 05/08/2016 08:24 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> >
> >So I google etc/slim.conf to fid out what it is, and on the first
> >link I find Warning: The SliM project has been abandoned (the
> >project homepage is down, leaving a github mirror),
> >
> >That's on the archwiki
> >
> >https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM
> >
> >They also warn that it's incompatible with systemd.
> >
> >I hope that's an arch-specific abandonment.
> >The gentoo page doesn't have this warning.
> >
> >-- hendrik
> >
> >

>
>
>The github mirror has a readme that says: "Note: This repository was
>used as backup source and is no longer maintained."
>
>
>I'm using lightdm here. Didn't have to do anything special to get it
>to work without systemd. Don't even have libsystemd0 installed on
>this box.
>
>-fsr


My vote is also for lightdm, it allows you to switch the 
desktop-environment, the language and the keyboard configuration.


Cheers,

  Aitor.

P.D.- I'm trying with the beta of gnuinos, but debmirror doesn't work :(


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Re: [DNG] Fwd: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing

[aitor_czr]

Hi Ozi,

On 05/08/2016 07:18 AM, Ozi Traveller wrote:

FYI !!!

-- Forwarded message --
From: *Debian testing autoremoval watch* >

Date: Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:39 PM
Subject: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing
To: live-b...@packages.debian.org 


live-boot 1:20151213 is marked for autoremoval from testing on 2016-05-29

It is affected by these RC bugs:
823069: live-boot-initramfs-tools: Kernel panic while booting live 
with Debian stretch busybox/live packages


The version of the kernel must be the same in all the parts of the iso 
image, and the filesystem.squashfs file must include this *same* kernel 
if you want to boot it in live mode.


The following packages are also required for that:

live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools live-tools live-config 
live-config-sysvinit


HTH,

  Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] Fwd: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing

[Ozi Traveller]

I don't think this is particularly a live-build problem, I know VSIDO is
also having issues with the sid kernel atm!
http://vsido.org/index.php?topic=1169.msg13158#new


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 8:41 AM, aitor_czr  wrote:

> Hi Ozi,
>
> On 05/08/2016 07:18 AM, Ozi Traveller wrote:
>
> FYI !!!
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Debian testing autoremoval watch 
> Date: Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:39 PM
> Subject: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing
> To: live-b...@packages.debian.org
>
>
> live-boot 1:20151213 is marked for autoremoval from testing on 2016-05-29
>
> It is affected by these RC bugs:
> 823069: live-boot-initramfs-tools: Kernel panic while booting live with
> Debian stretch busybox/live packages
>
>
> The version of the kernel must be the same in all the parts of the iso
> image, and the filesystem.squashfs file must include this *same* kernel if
> you want to boot it in live mode.
>
> The following packages are also required for that:
>
> live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools live-tools live-config
> live-config-sysvinit
>
> HTH,
>
>   Aitor.
>
>
>
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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[Daniel Reurich]

Hi David,

I've just forked os-prober here:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/os-prober

I will add your patches and push it into all suites so we have that  bug
fixed when we get beta2 out.

Regards,
Daniel.

On 09/05/16 08:31, David Hare wrote:
> Found it.. /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/90linux-distro .. here's a patch
> I did long back:
> 
> 127a128,130
>> elif [ -e "$dir/etc/devuan_version" ]; then
>> short="Devuan"
>> long="$(printf "Devuan GNU/Linux (%s)\n" "$(cat 
>> "$dir/etc/devuan_version")")"
> 
> On 8 May 2016 at 20:57, David Hare  wrote:
>>> (Note: I won't mess with /etc/default/grub unless instructed from above to
>> do so.)
>>
>> This needs fixing in Devuan, not refractainstaller. After my edit to
>> /etc/default/grub, the actual installation now shows correctly but
>> Devuan installs on other partitions still show as "unknown linux
>> distribution". There's an old list thread somewhere on that, I haven't
>> found it yet. I think it's to do with os-prober.
>>
>> BTW refractainstaller pauses near the end, while the target partition
>> is still mounted, allowing do do any manual tweaks or edits.
>>
>>
>> On 8 May 2016 at 18:12, fsmithred  wrote:
>>> On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote:
> please test also the install and other functionalities

 OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
 real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
 ram.

 One glitch, simple to fix.. on first boot slim puked, the installer
 had failed to sort etc/slim.conf for the new username. I used startx,
 edited manually and rebooted, now all is good.

>>>
>>>
>>> Fixed in refractainstaller 9.1.8 (-base and -gui).
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/testing/
>>>
>>> (Note: I won't mess with /etc/default/grub unless instructed from above to
>>> do so.)
>>>
>>> -fsr
>>>
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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[fsmithred]

Someone asked me about uefi support in the live iso.

Answer: No uefi support in the live isos I released.

I repacked the amd64 iso adding /boot and /efi folders from a solydx iso,
as described here -
http://refracta.freeforums.org/post5007.html#p5007

Also added current grub-efi debs to the offline folder.

It boots in virtualbox set to efi mode.

It's still experimental.

It's here -
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/other/unofficial_live_devuan_beta_amd64_uefi_repack.iso

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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[Joel Roth]

Hi,

Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live
distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with
hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such
as libreoffice, firefox, thunderbird.  And I'd like to write
it to a USB drive, or SD card.

I'm aware of Knoppix, and open to any other less heavy
assemblages. 

Appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,



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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[Go Linux]

On Sun, 5/8/16, Joel Roth  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images
 To: dng@lists.dyne.org
 Date: Sunday, May 8, 2016, 7:45 PM
 
Hi,

Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live
distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with
hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such
as libreoffice, firefox, thunderbird.  And I'd like to write
it to a USB drive, or SD card.

I'm aware of Knoppix, and open to any other less heavy
assemblages.

Appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,

-- 
Joel Roth



Hi Joel,

Did you download the iso and give it a spin?  Or at least look at the pkg list? 
 It has 2 of the three items you mentioned - libreoffice and iceweasel 
(firefox).  I have copied the pkg list below FYI.

You might also want to check out refracta2usb.  Check with fsr if it is 
compatible with the Devuan iso:

http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt


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Re: [DNG] Fwd: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing

[David Hare]

>This sounds a bit like the problem we were having with Refracta when
>util-linux got upgraded to 2.25. One of the fixes for that was to populate
>/dev in filesystem.squashfs. I see that the solydxkee iso has an empty
>/dev in the squashfs

Yes.. a minimal static /dev, in exactly the same way that live-build
does it, sorts that simply (It was not necessary for Wheezy).

Why? You need to plumb the depths of util-linux, udev and busybox to
work out what changed. It will probably have changed again before you
get the answer. For now, the fix is simple.

Autoremoval from "testing"? solydxkee is a Debian "derivative", it's
up to them to sort it.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2015/11/msg00024.html

There appear to be forces at work who want the debian-live project
shut down and replaced with "something else".

D

On 8 May 2016 at 23:41, aitor_czr  wrote:
> Hi Ozi,
>
> On 05/08/2016 07:18 AM, Ozi Traveller wrote:
>
> FYI !!!
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Debian testing autoremoval watch 
> Date: Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:39 PM
> Subject: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing
> To: live-b...@packages.debian.org
>
>
> live-boot 1:20151213 is marked for autoremoval from testing on 2016-05-29
>
> It is affected by these RC bugs:
> 823069: live-boot-initramfs-tools: Kernel panic while booting live with
> Debian stretch busybox/live packages
>
>
> The version of the kernel must be the same in all the parts of the iso
> image, and the filesystem.squashfs file must include this *same* kernel if
> you want to boot it in live mode.
>
> The following packages are also required for that:
>
> live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools live-tools live-config
> live-config-sysvinit
>
> HTH,
>
>   Aitor.
>
>
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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[David Hare]

Thanks Daniel.. note (others) that /etc/default/grub needs sorting
also, although nothing to do with os-prober. The Debian version is
enough, don't know why it's different in devuan (except the very
elegant gfx theme, that's where it has to be referenced)







On 9 May 2016 at 01:45, Joel Roth  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live
> distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with
> hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such
> as libreoffice, firefox, thunderbird.  And I'd like to write
> it to a USB drive, or SD card.
>
> I'm aware of Knoppix, and open to any other less heavy
> assemblages.
>
> Appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> --
> Joel Roth
>
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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[Joel Roth]

Go Linux wrote:
> On Sun, 5/8/16, Joel Roth  wrote:
> Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live
> distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with
> hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such
> as libreoffice, firefox, thunderbird.  And I'd like to write
> it to a USB drive, or SD card.
> 
> I'm aware of Knoppix, and open to any other less heavy
> assemblages.
> 
> Appreciate any suggestions.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Joel Roth
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Joel,
> 
> Did you download the iso and give it a spin?  Or at least look at the pkg 
> list?  It has 2 of the three items you mentioned - libreoffice and iceweasel 
> (firefox).  I have copied the pkg list below FYI.

Looks good, thanks, and being systemd-free is an added benefit. 
 
> You might also want to check out refracta2usb.  Check with fsr if it is 
> compatible with the Devuan iso:
> 
> http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt
> 
> 
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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[fsmithred]

On 05/08/2016 10:33 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
> Go Linux wrote:
>> On Sun, 5/8/16, Joel Roth  wrote:
>> Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live
>> distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with
>> hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such
>> as libreoffice, firefox, thunderbird.  And I'd like to write
>> it to a USB drive, or SD card.
>>
>> I'm aware of Knoppix, and open to any other less heavy
>> assemblages.
>>
>> Appreciate any suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -- 
>> Joel Roth
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Joel,
>>
>> Did you download the iso and give it a spin?  Or at least look at the pkg 
>> list?  It has 2 of the three items you mentioned - libreoffice and iceweasel 
>> (firefox).  I have copied the pkg list below FYI.
> 
> Looks good, thanks, and being systemd-free is an added benefit. 
>  
>> You might also want to check out refracta2usb.  Check with fsr if it is 
>> compatible with the Devuan iso:
>>
>> http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt
>>
>>
>> golinux


1. Install Devuan by whatever method you choose, and configure it however
you want.
2. Use refractasnapshot to make your own iso.
3. Use refracta2usb to make a live usb, with or without persistence, with
or without encryption, and some other things.
4. Profit. (your friends will.)

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Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

[Joel Roth]

fsmithred wrote:
> On 05/08/2016 10:33 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
> > Go Linux wrote:
> >> On Sun, 5/8/16, Joel Roth  wrote:
> >> Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live
> >> distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with
> >> hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such
> >> as libreoffice, firefox, thunderbird.  And I'd like to write
> >> it to a USB drive, or SD card.
> >>
> >> I'm aware of Knoppix, and open to any other less heavy
> >> assemblages.
> >>
> >> Appreciate any suggestions.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Joel Roth
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Hi Joel,
> >>
> >> Did you download the iso and give it a spin?  Or at least look at the pkg 
> >> list?  It has 2 of the three items you mentioned - libreoffice and 
> >> iceweasel (firefox).  I have copied the pkg list below FYI.
> > 
> > Looks good, thanks, and being systemd-free is an added benefit. 
> >  
> >> You might also want to check out refracta2usb.  Check with fsr if it is 
> >> compatible with the Devuan iso:
> >>
> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt
> >>
> >>
> >> golinux
> 
> 
> 1. Install Devuan by whatever method you choose, and configure it however
> you want.
> 2. Use refractasnapshot to make your own iso.
> 3. Use refracta2usb to make a live usb, with or without persistence, with
> or without encryption, and some other things.
> 4. Profit. (your friends will.)

Thanks, I will enjoy experimenting with this.
 
> -fsr
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[DNG] booting old system on a different partition

[Peter Olson]

So, I installed the Devuan beta a few days ago and it is great, rather it almost
mostly works.  I probably need an audio driver installed.  I want to see what
the old system had installed.

So I cleared out another partition and moved the backup of my Debian 8.3 onto
it.  Ran update-grub, which found the backup in its new location.

But, when I try to boot it grub is confused and is pinned to the old UUID of the
root filesystem.  (I have already updated /etc/fstab in the restored backup, but
it is not even getting that far.)  It just dumps me into busybox saying it can't
find the root fs.  Gotta love grub, which is useful only when nothing is wrong
:-)

Any advice about how to proceed?

Peter Olson
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Re: [DNG] booting old system on a different partition

[Boruch Baum]

On 2016-05-09 00:18, Peter Olson wrote:
> So, I installed the Devuan beta a few days ago and it is great, rather it 
> almost
> mostly works.  I probably need an audio driver installed.  I want to see what
> the old system had installed.
> 
> So I cleared out another partition and moved the backup of my Debian 8.3 onto
> it.  Ran update-grub, which found the backup in its new location.
> 
> But, when I try to boot it grub is confused and is pinned to the old UUID of 
> the
> root filesystem.  (I have already updated /etc/fstab in the restored backup, 
> but
> it is not even getting that far.)  It just dumps me into busybox saying it 
> can't
> find the root fs.  Gotta love grub, which is useful only when nothing is wrong
> :-)
> 
> Any advice about how to proceed?
> 
> Peter Olson

Have you verified that you have a new UUID for that old backed-up
partitiion. IIRC, when one backs up a partition using 'dd
if=/dev/sd{n}{x}', the old UUID is part of the data backed up.

code:
  ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid

If my guess is correct, for a hypothetical partition sdz9, your fix
should be something like:

code:
  tune2fs /dev/sdz9 -U $(uuidgen)


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Re: [DNG] booting old system on a different partition

[Boruch Baum]

On 2016-05-09 00:18, Peter Olson wrote:
> So, I installed the Devuan beta a few days ago and it is great, rather it 
> almost
> mostly works.  I probably need an audio driver installed.  I want to see what
> the old system had installed.
> 
> So I cleared out another partition and moved the backup of my Debian 8.3 onto
> it.  Ran update-grub, which found the backup in its new location.
> 
> But, when I try to boot it grub is confused and is pinned to the old UUID of 
> the
> root filesystem.  (I have already updated /etc/fstab in the restored backup, 
> but
> it is not even getting that far.)  It just dumps me into busybox saying it 
> can't
> find the root fs.  Gotta love grub, which is useful only when nothing is wrong
> :-)
> 
> Any advice about how to proceed?
> 
> Peter Olson

And, just a reminder of this last step:

code:
  update-grub # again

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[DNG] hashtag retarded

[Mitt Green]

LOL that self-centric poof[1], that tells people
‎what to do[2], has #gnome in one row with #geek[3].
Don't forget to add #mentallychallenged,
Laurent Bigotville.

[1]:https://twitter.com/bigonbe
[2]:https://twitter.com/bigonbe/status/729032669254844420
[3]:http://imgur.com/PLoVJTI
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