[Discuss] Framework risc-v (was: Think I need a new computer)
Speaking of Framework computers, today I see that they are going to do a risc-v mainboard* for the 13" machines. This is explicitly for those wanting access to this architecture for development, and they say it is not competitive with their Intel and AMD as a general purpose computer; it looks to me like the JH7110 CPU it has is designed for portable electronics or cellphone use, though glancing through a PDF about the chip, they also mention use on "the edge". No, I don't want one of these and probably neither do any of you, but I can imagine there are people will: and the modular architecture of Framework means those folk can do risc-v work on decent and portable machine and don't need chained to a desk covered with a pile of parts and wires. Cool! I am under the impression that printed circuit board layout, and commissioning a manufacturer to build it, has gotten pretty easy these days. And the specs for what a Framework mainboard needs to be are probably public. Possibly this chip manufacturer, wanting to sell a development board to help drive design wins for their chip, is helping fund this. I don't know. But I like the idea that a Framework computer can be a shell in which to drop in a development board, which then benefits from all of the packaging of that larger beast. Their might be more of things like these. -kb * I note they call it a "mainboard", not a "motherboard" as I did recently. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@driftwood.blu.org https://driftwood.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Framework risc-v
On 6/18/24 09:42, Kent Borg wrote: Their might be more of things like these. "There", grrr. -kb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@driftwood.blu.org https://driftwood.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[Discuss] mainboard vs. motherboard
On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:42:42 -0700 Kent Borg wrote: > * I note they call it a "mainboard", not a "motherboard" as I did > recently. Motherboard and mainboard are mostly interchangeable terms. If one is being ultra-pedantic, a motherboard has capacity for expansion boards (daughter boards/cards) while a mainboard does not. But just as pedantically, Frameworks' mainboards are motherboards: they have RAM module sockets. -- \m/ (--) \m/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@driftwood.blu.org https://driftwood.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] mainboard vs. motherboard
On 6/18/24 10:01, Rich Pieri wrote: Frameworks' mainboards are motherboards: they have RAM module sockets. Yes, and they also have SSD sockets. And that must be where the wifi board plugs in. This risc-v board, however, will have soldered RAM and the only mass storage will be a soldered emmc and a micro SD slot. (Basically limitations of the CPU chip.) Which makes it more of a mainboard than the others… -kb ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@driftwood.blu.org https://driftwood.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[Discuss] Boston Linux VIRTUAL Meeting, reminder, tomorrow Wednesday, June 19, 2024 - Rocky Linux Redux 2024
When: June 19, 2024 7:00PM EDT (6:30PM for Q&A) Corrected Date 😳 Topic: Rocky Linux Redux 2024 Speakers: Brian Clemens, Gregory Kurtzer Location: Online: https://meet.jit.si/blu.org We will not be live streaming as the YouTube the live streams have been failing partway through our meetings. We will be recording the meeting using Jitsi's recording feature. Summary: Latest news regarding Rocky Linux Abstract: Rocky Linux is an open-source enterprise operating system designed to be 100% bug-for-bug compatible with Red Hat Enterprise Linux®. It is under intensive development by the community. Attachments Enterprise Linux, the community way: https://rockylinux.org/ For further information and directions please consult the BLU Web site: http://www.blu.org Our meeting recordings are on the Video tab: http://blu.org/video/ -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix http://www.blu.org ___ Announce mailing list annou...@driftwood.blu.org https://driftwood.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/announce ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@driftwood.blu.org https://driftwood.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Framework risc-v (was: Think I need a new computer)
It is being designed for them by a partner. On Tue, Jun 18, 2024, 12:43 PM Kent Borg wrote: > Speaking of Framework computers, today I see that they are going to do a > risc-v mainboard* for the 13" machines. > > This is explicitly for those wanting access to this architecture for > development, and they say it is not competitive with their Intel and AMD > as a general purpose computer; it looks to me like the JH7110 CPU it has > is designed for portable electronics or cellphone use, though glancing > through a PDF about the chip, they also mention use on "the edge". > > No, I don't want one of these and probably neither do any of you, but I > can imagine there are people will: and the modular architecture of > Framework means those folk can do risc-v work on decent and portable > machine and don't need chained to a desk covered with a pile of parts > and wires. > > Cool! > > I am under the impression that printed circuit board layout, and > commissioning a manufacturer to build it, has gotten pretty easy these > days. And the specs for what a Framework mainboard needs to be are > probably public. Possibly this chip manufacturer, wanting to sell a > development board to help drive design wins for their chip, is helping > fund this. I don't know. But I like the idea that a Framework computer > can be a shell in which to drop in a development board, which then > benefits from all of the packaging of that larger beast. Their might be > more of things like these. > > > -kb > > > * I note they call it a "mainboard", not a "motherboard" as I did recently. > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@driftwood.blu.org > https://driftwood.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@driftwood.blu.org https://driftwood.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Framework risc-v
I picked up a VisionFive2 board when I ordered an e-Paper display from Waveshare, but I haven't done more than boot it up. RISC-V seemslike a nice thing to explore; I have no particular purpose other than testing my code on another architecture. Dan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@driftwood.blu.org https://driftwood.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
