Re: Proposal: Allow all packagers to push empty commits to any package

2025-02-21 Thread Peter Oliver
On 20 February 2025 13:54:00 GMT, Ben Beasley 
wrote:
>Note that as long as we’re on Pagure, it’s impossible to make a PR for an
empty commit.

It's possible via the API,
https://src.fedoraproject.org/api/0/#pull_requests-tab.

I recently knocked up a "quick" script to do this, (which rapidly spiraled
out of control).
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/tree-sitter/blob/rawhide/f/chain-build.sh

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Re: Proposal: Allow all packagers to push empty commits to any package

2025-02-21 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 5:13 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> On 21. 02. 25 12:41, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:17 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> With the recent discussions about provenpackagers in Fedora, I recently 
> >> got an
> >> idea.
> >>
> >> One of the common needs for provenpackagers is to simply "bump and 
> >> rebuild" a
> >> set of dependencies.
> >>
> >> All packagers are already able to build anything (except a very specific 
> >> and
> >> small set of specially-signed packages). However, to bump the package, they
> >> need commit rights. For that reason, provenpackager rights are often 
> >> required.
> >>
> >> With the wide adoption of %autorelease, such bump commits are empty, which
> >> should be easy to verify.
> >>
> >> What if we allowed all packagers to push empty commit to any package? That
> >> should eliminate *some* need for provenpackager access. We would also
> >> communicate in our policies that such bumps do not require prior agreement 
> >> with
> >> the maintainers to avoid confusion about "what are we allowed to do".
> >
> > This sounds a bit more complicated than it needs to be ...
> > I would much rather explore not having to push empty commits *at all*,
> > and have koji auto-increment the build number if it would cause an NVR
> > conflict ... (yes, this should be possible with minor changes to the
> > %dist macro and some small additions to koji).
>
> IIRC this is the direction we explicitly decided not to go with %autorelease.
> We wanted the rebuild reason committed.

Those are kind of two orthogonal issues. You could still use an empty
commit if you *want* a changelog entry :)

Fabio
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Re: Proposal: Allow all packagers to push empty commits to any package

2025-02-21 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:17 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> With the recent discussions about provenpackagers in Fedora, I recently got an
> idea.
>
> One of the common needs for provenpackagers is to simply "bump and rebuild" a
> set of dependencies.
>
> All packagers are already able to build anything (except a very specific and
> small set of specially-signed packages). However, to bump the package, they
> need commit rights. For that reason, provenpackager rights are often required.
>
> With the wide adoption of %autorelease, such bump commits are empty, which
> should be easy to verify.
>
> What if we allowed all packagers to push empty commit to any package? That
> should eliminate *some* need for provenpackager access. We would also
> communicate in our policies that such bumps do not require prior agreement 
> with
> the maintainers to avoid confusion about "what are we allowed to do".

This sounds a bit more complicated than it needs to be ...
I would much rather explore not having to push empty commits *at all*,
and have koji auto-increment the build number if it would cause an NVR
conflict ... (yes, this should be possible with minor changes to the
%dist macro and some small additions to koji).

Fabio
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Re: Proposal: Allow all packagers to push empty commits to any package

2025-02-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 6:42 AM Fabio Valentini  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:17 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > With the recent discussions about provenpackagers in Fedora, I recently got 
> > an
> > idea.
> >
> > One of the common needs for provenpackagers is to simply "bump and rebuild" 
> > a
> > set of dependencies.
> >
> > All packagers are already able to build anything (except a very specific and
> > small set of specially-signed packages). However, to bump the package, they
> > need commit rights. For that reason, provenpackager rights are often 
> > required.
> >
> > With the wide adoption of %autorelease, such bump commits are empty, which
> > should be easy to verify.
> >
> > What if we allowed all packagers to push empty commit to any package? That
> > should eliminate *some* need for provenpackager access. We would also
> > communicate in our policies that such bumps do not require prior agreement 
> > with
> > the maintainers to avoid confusion about "what are we allowed to do".
>
> This sounds a bit more complicated than it needs to be ...
> I would much rather explore not having to push empty commits *at all*,
> and have koji auto-increment the build number if it would cause an NVR
> conflict ... (yes, this should be possible with minor changes to the
> %dist macro and some small additions to koji).
>

Yes, this is the direction we should go! :)



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Re: tree-sitter build broke Emacs

2025-02-21 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Thursday, 20 February 2025 17:15:20 CET Jerry James wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 2:31 PM Jerry James  wrote:
> > Thank you.  Would you please update tree-sitter, emacs, etc. in a side
> > tag next time?
> 
> Except you didn't.  Emacs is again broken in Rawhide due to a
> tree-sitter update.  Meaning I can't do the work I was planning to do
> this morning because the build I am working on BuildRequires emacs.
> Do you not understand why using a side tag is a good idea?  Do you not
> understand how to use a side tag?  I'm happy to walk you through the
> answers to either question if lack of education is the issue here.

It was built in a side tag, but the emacs and neovim builds were triggered to 
early so the packages got built against the old libtree-sitter version in the 
side tag.

See also the comments at 
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2025-b594b1ea02

We wouldn't have that problem if the Fedora build service would detect a new 
version and rebuild the dependencies. SUSE solved that problem **more than a 
decade ago**:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Build_Service


Cheers


Andreas


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Re: Proposal: Allow all packagers to push empty commits to any package

2025-02-21 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 21. 02. 25 12:41, Fabio Valentini wrote:

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:17 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:


Hello.

With the recent discussions about provenpackagers in Fedora, I recently got an
idea.

One of the common needs for provenpackagers is to simply "bump and rebuild" a
set of dependencies.

All packagers are already able to build anything (except a very specific and
small set of specially-signed packages). However, to bump the package, they
need commit rights. For that reason, provenpackager rights are often required.

With the wide adoption of %autorelease, such bump commits are empty, which
should be easy to verify.

What if we allowed all packagers to push empty commit to any package? That
should eliminate *some* need for provenpackager access. We would also
communicate in our policies that such bumps do not require prior agreement with
the maintainers to avoid confusion about "what are we allowed to do".


This sounds a bit more complicated than it needs to be ...
I would much rather explore not having to push empty commits *at all*,
and have koji auto-increment the build number if it would cause an NVR
conflict ... (yes, this should be possible with minor changes to the
%dist macro and some small additions to koji).


IIRC this is the direction we explicitly decided not to go with %autorelease. 
We wanted the rebuild reason committed.


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Re: tree-sitter build broke Emacs

2025-02-21 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Thursday, 20 February 2025 17:15:20 CET Jerry James wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 2:31 PM Jerry James  wrote:
> > Thank you.  Would you please update tree-sitter, emacs, etc. in a side
> > tag next time?
> 
> Except you didn't.

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2662558

Taskbuild (f43-build-side-106186, /rpms/
emacs.git:efc6d1cc8f4378f13f8872716922e5c0071090de)

That clearly shows that it got built in a side tag, just the build service 
doesn't block new builds till dependencies are built to start the job, you 
have to wait manually.

This rocket science has been solved more than a decade ago by SUSE. Try the 
Open Build Service, it will just work there. Packages are blocked till the 
dependency is built.



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Re: Proposal: Allow all packagers to push empty commits to any package

2025-02-21 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Thursday, 20 February 2025 13:17:02 CET Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Hello.

Hey,
 
> With the recent discussions about provenpackagers in Fedora, I recently got
> an idea.

I also got an idea, what if the build service detects that a dependency 
changed and rebuilds the package automatically?


Sounds like rocket science? Don't worry it already has been resolved more than 
a decade ago:

https://openbuildservice.org/


Or we just continue having broken packages ever now and then. It is so much 
fun, right?



Andreas


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Summary:  GIS file format library
RPMs: gdal-libs
Size: 18.88 MiB
Size change:  6.88 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sat Feb 15 2025 Sandro Mani  - 3.10.2-1
  - Update to 3.10.2

  * Thu Feb 20 2025 Marek Kasik  - 3.10.2-2
  - Rebuild for libarrow 19 in poppler's sidetag

  * Thu Feb 20 2025 Marek Kasik  - 3.10.2-3
  - Add definitions of missing int16_t and int32_t


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Summary:  Grassroots DiCoM is a C++ library to parse DICOM medical files
RPMs: gdcm
Size: 2.94 MiB
Size change:  3.61 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Feb 11 2025 Ankur Sinha (Ankur Sinha Gmail)  - 
3.0.24-6
  - Rebuild for poppler 25.02.0


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Summary:  The GNU libc libraries
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glibc-devel glibc-doc glibc-gconv-extra glibc-langpack-aa glibc-langpack-af 
glibc-langpack-agr glibc-langpack-ak glibc-langpack-am glibc-langpack-an 
glibc-langpack-anp glibc-langpack-ar glibc-langpack-as glibc-langpack-ast 
glibc-langpack-ayc glibc-langpack-az glibc-langpack-be glibc-langpack-bem 
glibc-