On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 5:13 PM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 21. 02. 25 12:41, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:17 PM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> With the recent discussions about provenpackagers in Fedora, I recently 
> >> got an
> >> idea.
> >>
> >> One of the common needs for provenpackagers is to simply "bump and 
> >> rebuild" a
> >> set of dependencies.
> >>
> >> All packagers are already able to build anything (except a very specific 
> >> and
> >> small set of specially-signed packages). However, to bump the package, they
> >> need commit rights. For that reason, provenpackager rights are often 
> >> required.
> >>
> >> With the wide adoption of %autorelease, such bump commits are empty, which
> >> should be easy to verify.
> >>
> >> What if we allowed all packagers to push empty commit to any package? That
> >> should eliminate *some* need for provenpackager access. We would also
> >> communicate in our policies that such bumps do not require prior agreement 
> >> with
> >> the maintainers to avoid confusion about "what are we allowed to do".
> >
> > This sounds a bit more complicated than it needs to be ...
> > I would much rather explore not having to push empty commits *at all*,
> > and have koji auto-increment the build number if it would cause an NVR
> > conflict ... (yes, this should be possible with minor changes to the
> > %dist macro and some small additions to koji).
>
> IIRC this is the direction we explicitly decided not to go with %autorelease.
> We wanted the rebuild reason committed.

Those are kind of two orthogonal issues. You could still use an empty
commit if you *want* a changelog entry :)

Fabio
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