[dev] video player and torrent client that don't suck

2013-06-27 Thread oneofthem
Are there any?
mpv and rtorrent are the best I know of and mpv requires
libtool+autoconf. rtorrent has the stupidest keybindings and is made in
c++.




Re: [dev] video player and torrent client that don't suck

2013-06-28 Thread oneofthem
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:52:32AM +0800, Chris Down wrote:
> On 28 June 2013 10:28, oneofthem  wrote: 
> btpd seemed ok in terms of actual use when I last looked. I didn't
> look in great detail at the code, but I believe it does use openssl
> and autoconf, which kinda sucks.
Whats wrong with openssl, what do you use if not openssl?




Re: [dev] video player and torrent client that don't suck

2013-06-28 Thread oneofthem
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 08:50:33PM +0800, Chris Down wrote:
> On 28 June 2013 20:11, oneofthem  wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:52:32AM +0800, Chris Down wrote:
> If you look at the attitude of the developers and the quality of the
> source code, it should become apparent why OpenSSL is a force for evil
> :-)
> 
> As for what I suggest instead: http://libtom.org
That hasn't been updated for 6 years, hardly an option for a modern
design.




Re: [dev] video player and torrent client that don't suck

2013-06-28 Thread oneofthem
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 09:57:12AM -0400, Andrew Hills wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 23:27:19 +1000 oneofthem 
> wrote:
> > That hasn't been updated for 6 years, hardly an option for a modern
> > design.
> 
> Your argument is completely invalid, and not just because the
> information is wrong. A good design remains a good design regardless of
> age. Has SSL changed so much since the last commit (2012-10-08)? If you
> want, I can fork the project and commit new version numbers and make a
> new release every few weeks; maybe it will satisfy your need for
> something shiny.
You're really saying that cryptography hasn't changed since 2007?
SSL is a bad example because it was superseded by TLS 1.0 over a decade
ago, TLS 1.0 was superseded TLS 1.1 7 years ago and that was superseded
by TLS 1.2 5 years ago.




Re: [dev] video player and torrent client that don't suck

2013-06-28 Thread oneofthem
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:31:46AM -0400, Andrew Hills wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 00:17:14 +1000 oneofthem 
> wrote: 
> But that's not relevant to your comment. I was saying that your
> assertion that "modern design" precludes code written six years ago is
> not correct.
Ok.




[dev] lisp

2013-06-29 Thread oneofthem
is there any reason why lisp isn't mentioned much in the suckless
community?
considered irrelevant, harmful or what?




[dev] client-server model

2013-06-30 Thread oneofthem
Why doesn't any of the suckless software use a client-server model?




Re: [dev] Wayland st!!??

2013-07-28 Thread oneofthem
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:43:00PM -0700, Michael Forney wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:17:42 -0400, Carlos Torres  
> wrote:
> > I didn't know about this
> > 
> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQyMTQ
> > 
> > I'm both excited or looking to troll
> 
> I'm the author of the port. I'm not sure how the suckless community
> feels about Wayland, but it seems like the core protocol is fairly
> lightweight, depends only on libffi, and is refreshing to work with
> compared to X. Weston's goals are perhaps more orthogonal to suckless,
> but I think there is potential for a suckless compositor.

I'd rather use dwm + wayland than dwm + xorg.