Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Mr Mueller,


The forum.openoffice.org is our support Forum. When people have issues 
they are often directed to this page for solutions.


Do you have a list of URLs googlebot has not able to crawl? We can then 
check if the behavior is intended or not and we can tell you the reason 
for this measurement.


I am not particular skilled in google search engine. I do not understand 
the sentence:


This will cause those pages to drop out of Google's search results, 
and will prevent new pages from being picked up for Search. 

Can you explain this in an example please?


Thanks for the support.

All the best

Peter


Am 11.05.20 um 13:37 schrieb John Mueller:

Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your 
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's 
available for Google's web search.


In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from 
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop 
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being 
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be 
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server 
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your 
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.


Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you 
can use a reverse IP lookup to do so: 
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553


Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For 
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your 
site's Search Console account.


Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com )
Webmaster Trends Analyst




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Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Kay,

Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
> On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Kay,
>>
>> Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> Hi Peter...
>>>
>>> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
>>> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
>>> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.
>>>
>>> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
>>> Search until I saw this.
>> I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
>> information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.
>>
>> But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
>> complete the step.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     Matthias
>
> OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
> "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
>
> 
>
> I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
> forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
> that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
> want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
> generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
> from Google. Things change.
>
> https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080

Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
>
> Kay
>
>>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
>>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
>>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
>>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
>>> response, but maybe some investigation.
>>>
>>> Just some ideas...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Kay
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
 google-Analytics page.

 Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?


 All the Best

 Peter



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 Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
 Von: John Mueller 
 An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com



 Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 

 I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
 attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
 available for Google's web search.

 In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
 https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
 out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
 picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
 accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
 issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
 website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

 Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
 can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
 https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

 Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
 verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
 site's Search Console account.

 Thank you,
 John Mueller (joh...@google.com )
 Webmaster Trends Analyst




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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[John Mueller]

Hi Peter

It looks like Google's infrastructure for crawling the web can't access any
URLs at all from forum.openoffice.org, including the homepage. Sometimes
this is due to a firewall or abuse protection system recognizing these
requests as malicious. Over time, as we attempt to update the pages in the
search results by crawling URLs from the site, if we see that we can't
access them at all, they generally get removed from our search results, In
practice, this means that users won't be able to find your pages in Google
Search. Sometimes websites do that on purpose, if they don't want to be
found in search, I suspect it's more of an accident here. A simple way to
test is to use  https://search.google.com/test/mobile-friendly to check
URLs from your site (better would be to use
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9012289 , though that would
require verification of the site in Google Search Console first).

Hope this helps!
John




On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:33 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Hello Mr Mueller,
>
>
> The forum.openoffice.org is our support Forum. When people have issues
> they are often directed to this page for solutions.
>
> Do you have a list of URLs googlebot has not able to crawl? We can then
> check if the behavior is intended or not and we can tell you the reason for
> this measurement.
>
> I am not particular skilled in google search engine. I do not understand
> the sentence:
>
> This will cause those pages to drop out of Google's search results, and
> will prevent new pages from being picked up for Search.
>
> Can you explain this in an example please?
>
>
> Thanks for the support.
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
>
> Am 11.05.20 um 13:37 schrieb John Mueller:
>
> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org
>
> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your attention
> to a critical issue with your website, and how it's available for Google's
> web search.
>
> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop out
> of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being picked up
> for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be accidentally
> blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server issue. If you need
> to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your website, we'd recommend
> using the robots.txt file instead.
>
> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you can
> use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
>
> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your site's
> Search Console account.
>
> Thank you,
> John Mueller (joh...@google.com)
> Webmaster Trends Analyst
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> John Mueller, He/Him, Search Relations Team - go/search-rel
> 
> WTA is now Search-Rel (info
> )
>
> *Time-critical? Resend with "URGENT" in the subject.*
>
> Google Switzerland GmbH
> Gustav-Gull-Platz 1, 3. Stock
> 8004 Zurich, Switzerland
>
> Identifikationsnummer:
> CH-020.4.028.116-1
>
>

-- 

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WTA is now Search-Rel (info
)

*Time-critical? Resend with "URGENT" in the subject.*

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Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello all,


What I figured is that from the Google search tool the URL 
forum.openoffice.org is not reachable.


So I checked with Duckduckgo (my prefered Search engine), they don't use 
crawler and point at the infra of Google, Bing and Yandex.


I checked then with Bing, but could not figure out to check bots 
feedback on an URL so I moved on


I checked with Yandex. They have a search URL test page. I have entered 
there forum.openoffice.org


The Response is:



 * Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 10:37:47 GMT
 * Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
 * Location: https://forum.openoffice.org/
 * Content-Length: 237
 * Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
 * Connection: Keep-Alive
 * Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1




HTTP status code301 Moved Permanently
Server response time133 ms
IP address  54.84.201.130
EncodingUTF-8(unicode-1-1-utf-8, UTF8)
Page size   237 B


I am not sure, what that means. HTTP Status Code moved Permanently reads 
wrong. I just dont know if this is the return code from our webservcer 
or a response code from the crawler.

I try to get someone from Infra. Or I'll open a ticket.


All the best
Peter

Am 12.05.20 um 10:39 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Kay,

Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Kay,

Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:

Hi Peter...

Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.

I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
Search until I saw this.

I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.

But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
complete the step.

Regards,

     Matthias

OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
"skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --



I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
from Google. Things change.

https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080

Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
forum...
The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
to the root directory.

Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?

Regards,

    Matthias


Regards,

Kay


One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
response, but maybe some investigation.

Just some ideas...

Regards,

Kay


On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi all,

I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
google-Analytics page.

Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?


All the Best

Peter



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Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
Von: John Mueller 
An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com



Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
available for Google's web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
site's Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com )
Webmaster Trends Analyst





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Re: AOO 4.2.0-Dev2 (was: macOS and AOO42X)

[Jim Jagielski]

Gotcha... before I do it I'll try w/ 4.3.0 and see if there are any diffs 
between the makefiles

> On May 11, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Am 11.05.20 um 23:56 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> In the meantime, I've changed configure.ac to balk if gmake is 4.3 (or later)
> 
> Thanks, I think we need it for AOO418, too.
> 
> At least I had to downgrade in Cygwin...
> 
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"Nightly Builds" location

[Czesław Wolański]

Hi,

During a vibrant discussion on "macOS and AOO42X" subject, Keith N. McKenna
on 4 May (2020/05/04) pointed out
the Release Policy as stated at:
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#publication

In case of "Nightly Builds":
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#build-directories
their location is given as follows:  people.apache.org/builds

It doesn't work ("Not Found. "The requested URL was not found on this
server.").

Can that be rectified?


Regards,

Czesław Wolański

Re: Can't download full executable for OpenOffice on chrome or firefox

[Bidouille]

> Can't download full executable for OpenOffice on chrome or firefox
Well, success for me with Firefox 76.0.1 and this link
> Download file link (full)
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.7/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.7_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe/download

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Re: "Nightly Builds" location

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Czeslaw

> In case of "Nightly Builds":
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#build-directories
> their location is given as follows:  people.apache.org/builds
> 
> It doesn't work ("Not Found. "The requested URL was not found on this
> server.").
> 
> Can that be rectified?

Given that it is an error on a "toplevel website", according to ASF own rules, 
you can report that to webmas...@apache.org
(http://www.apache.org/foundation/contact.html)

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Kay Schenk]

Oops! My misunderstanding. Sorry for the noise.

Regards,
Kay


On Tue, May 12, 2020, 01:39 Matthias Seidel 
wrote:

> Hi Kay,
>
> Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >
> > On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >> Hi Kay,
> >>
> >> Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>> Hi Peter...
> >>>
> >>> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
> >>> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
> >>> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.
> >>>
> >>> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
> >>> Search until I saw this.
> >> I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
> >> information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.
> >>
> >> But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
> >> complete the step.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >
> > OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
> > "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
> >
> > 
> >
> > I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
> > forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
> > that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
> > want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
> > generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
> > from Google. Things change.
> >
> > https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
>
> Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
> forum...
> The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
> to the root directory.
>
> Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?
>
> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kay
> >
> >>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
> >>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
> >>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
> >>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
> >>> response, but maybe some investigation.
> >>>
> >>> Just some ideas...
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Kay
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>  Hi all,
> 
>  I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
>  google-Analytics page.
> 
>  Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?
> 
> 
>  All the Best
> 
>  Peter
> 
> 
> 
>   Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>  Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
>  Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
>  Von: John Mueller 
>  An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>  Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 
> 
>  I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
>  attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
>  available for Google's web search.
> 
>  In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
>  https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
>  out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
>  picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
>  accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
>  issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
>  website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.
> 
>  Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
>  can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
>  https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
> 
>  Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
>  verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
>  site's Search Console account.
> 
>  Thank you,
>  John Mueller (joh...@google.com )
>  Webmaster Trends Analyst
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Fwd: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Kay,

Am 12.05.20 um 16:13 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> Oops! My misunderstanding. Sorry for the noise.

No noise (and no problem)! Google Analytics and Google Search are really
close together.

BTW: You (and Peter) also have access to the Google Search Console:

https://search.google.com/search-console

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Kay
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 01:39 Matthias Seidel 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kay,
>>
>> Am 12.05.20 um 01:21 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> On 5/11/20 12:33 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi Kay,

 Am 11.05.20 um 21:23 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> Hi Peter...
>
> Since I am a Google Search admin for www.openoffice.org, and
> openoffice.apache.org, I got this also. Disclaimer: I have not done
> ANY work with the Google Search apis on these sites in quite some time.
>
> I actually was NOT aware forum.openoffice.org was set up to use Google
> Search until I saw this.
 I think, I added it to the list when we had a discussion about outdated
 information regarding SourceForge found by Google Search.

 But I don't have access to forum.openoffice.org, so I could never
 complete the step.

 Regards,

 Matthias
>>> OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
>>> "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
>>> forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
>>> that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
>>> want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
>>> generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
>>> from Google. Things change.
>>>
>>> https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
>> Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
>> forum...
>> The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
>> to the root directory.
>>
>> Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Kay
>>>
> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
> response, but maybe some investigation.
>
> Just some ideas...
>
> Regards,
>
> Kay
>
>
> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
>> google-Analytics page.
>>
>> Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?
>>
>>
>> All the Best
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>> Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search
>> Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
>> Von: John Mueller 
>> An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org 
>>
>> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
>> attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
>> available for Google's web search.
>>
>> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
>> out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being
>> picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
>> accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
>> issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
>> website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.
>>
>> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
>> can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
>> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
>>
>> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
>> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
>> site's Search Console account.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> John Mueller (joh...@google.com )
>> Webmaster Trends Analyst
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: "Nightly Builds" location

[Czesław Wolański]

Hi,

Thanks for explanation. I'll report this issue.
Let me/us hope it is not  "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an
enigma". ;‑)

Best regards,

Czesław

Am Di., 12. Mai 2020 um 16:02 Uhr schrieb Pedro Lino :

> Hi Czeslaw
>
> > In case of "Nightly Builds":
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#build-directories
> > their location is given as follows:  people.apache.org/builds
> >
> > It doesn't work ("Not Found. "The requested URL was not found on this
> > server.").
> >
> > Can that be rectified?
>
> Given that it is an error on a "toplevel website", according to ASF own
> rules, you can report that to webmas...@apache.org
> (http://www.apache.org/foundation/contact.html)
>
> Regards,
> Pedro
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>
>

Re: "Nightly Builds" location

[Dave Fisher]

It should be made clear that nightly builds are not required and not 
advertised. The location and frequency is up to the project and is found by 
asking on a project’s dev list.

See Jim and Matthias’s discussion about weekly builds.

Best Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2020, at 7:03 AM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi Czeslaw
> 
>> In case of "Nightly Builds":
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#build-directories
>> their location is given as follows:  people.apache.org/builds
>> 
>> It doesn't work ("Not Found. "The requested URL was not found on this
>> server.").
>> 
>> Can that be rectified?
> 
> Given that it is an error on a "toplevel website", according to ASF own 
> rules, you can report that to webmas...@apache.org
> (http://www.apache.org/foundation/contact.html)
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> 


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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Dave Fisher]

Are you sure you weren’t using forums.openoffice.org instead of 
forum.openoffice.org?

 curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/ does return the correct page.

The robots.txt is this:

curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/robots.txt
User-agent: *
Crawl-delay: 1
Disallow: /en/forum/common.php
Disallow: /en/forum/config.php
Disallow: /en/forum/con.php
Disallow: /en/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /en/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /en/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /en/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /en/forum/report.php
Disallow: /en/forum/search.php
Disallow: /en/forum/style.php
Disallow: /en/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /en/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /en/forum/adm
Disallow: /en/forum/cache
Disallow: /en/forum/docs
Disallow: /en/forum/files
Disallow: /en/forum/images
Disallow: /en/forum/includes
Disallow: /en/forum/language
Disallow: /en/forum/store
Disallow: /en/forum/styles
Disallow: /es/forum/common.php
Disallow: /es/forum/config.php
Disallow: /es/forum/con.php
Disallow: /es/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /es/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /es/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /es/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /es/forum/report.php
Disallow: /es/forum/search.php
Disallow: /es/forum/style.php
Disallow: /es/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /es/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /es/forum/adm
Disallow: /es/forum/cache
Disallow: /es/forum/docs
Disallow: /es/forum/files
Disallow: /es/forum/images
Disallow: /es/forum/includes
Disallow: /es/forum/language
Disallow: /es/forum/store
Disallow: /es/forum/styles
Disallow: /fr/forum/common.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/config.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/con.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/report.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/search.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/style.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/adm
Disallow: /fr/forum/cache
Disallow: /fr/forum/docs
Disallow: /fr/forum/files
Disallow: /fr/forum/images
Disallow: /fr/forum/includes
Disallow: /fr/forum/language
Disallow: /fr/forum/store
Disallow: /fr/forum/styles
Disallow: /fr/ci-joint
Disallow: /hu/forum/common.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/config.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/con.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/report.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/search.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/style.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /hu/forum/adm
Disallow: /hu/forum/cache
Disallow: /hu/forum/docs
Disallow: /hu/forum/files
Disallow: /hu/forum/images
Disallow: /hu/forum/includes
Disallow: /hu/forum/language
Disallow: /hu/forum/store
Disallow: /hu/forum/styles
Disallow: /ja/forum/common.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/config.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/con.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/report.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/search.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/style.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /ja/forum/adm
Disallow: /ja/forum/cache
Disallow: /ja/forum/docs
Disallow: /ja/forum/files
Disallow: /ja/forum/images
Disallow: /ja/forum/includes
Disallow: /ja/forum/language
Disallow: /ja/forum/store
Disallow: /ja/forum/styles
Disallow: /test
Disallow: /nl/forum/common.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/config.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/con.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/report.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/search.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/style.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /nl/forum/adm
Disallow: /nl/forum/cache
Disallow: /nl/forum/docs
Disallow: /nl/forum/files
Disallow: /nl/forum/images
Disallow: /nl/forum/includes
Disallow: /nl/forum/language
Disallow: /nl/forum/store
Disallow: /nl/forum/styles
Disallow: /vi/forum/common.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/config.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/con.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/report.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/search.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/style.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /vi/forum/adm
Disallow: /vi/forum/cache
Disallow: /vi/forum/docs
Disallow: /vi/forum/files
Disallow: /vi/forum/images
Disallow: /vi/forum/includes
Disallow: /vi/forum/language
Disallow: /vi/forum/store
Disallow: /vi/forum/styles
Disallow: /zh/forum/common.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/config.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/con.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/report.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/search.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/style.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /zh/forum/adm
Disallow: /zh/forum/cache
Disallow: /zh/for

Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Dave Fisher]

Information about Infra IP Bans is here: https://infra.apache.org/infra-ban.html

Please direct the Google engineer to that resource.

Regards,
Dave

> On May 12, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Are you sure you weren’t using forums.openoffice.org instead of 
> forum.openoffice.org?
> 
> curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/ does return the correct page.
> 
> The robots.txt is this:
> 
> curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/robots.txt
> User-agent: *
> Crawl-delay: 1
> Disallow: /en/forum/common.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/config.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/con.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/faq.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/mcp.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/memberlist.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/posting.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/report.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/search.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/style.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/ucp.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/viewonline.php
> Disallow: /en/forum/adm
> Disallow: /en/forum/cache
> Disallow: /en/forum/docs
> Disallow: /en/forum/files
> Disallow: /en/forum/images
> Disallow: /en/forum/includes
> Disallow: /en/forum/language
> Disallow: /en/forum/store
> Disallow: /en/forum/styles
> Disallow: /es/forum/common.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/config.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/con.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/faq.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/mcp.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/memberlist.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/posting.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/report.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/search.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/style.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/ucp.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/viewonline.php
> Disallow: /es/forum/adm
> Disallow: /es/forum/cache
> Disallow: /es/forum/docs
> Disallow: /es/forum/files
> Disallow: /es/forum/images
> Disallow: /es/forum/includes
> Disallow: /es/forum/language
> Disallow: /es/forum/store
> Disallow: /es/forum/styles
> Disallow: /fr/forum/common.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/config.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/con.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/faq.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/mcp.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/memberlist.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/posting.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/report.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/search.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/style.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/ucp.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/viewonline.php
> Disallow: /fr/forum/adm
> Disallow: /fr/forum/cache
> Disallow: /fr/forum/docs
> Disallow: /fr/forum/files
> Disallow: /fr/forum/images
> Disallow: /fr/forum/includes
> Disallow: /fr/forum/language
> Disallow: /fr/forum/store
> Disallow: /fr/forum/styles
> Disallow: /fr/ci-joint
> Disallow: /hu/forum/common.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/config.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/con.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/faq.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/mcp.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/memberlist.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/posting.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/report.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/search.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/style.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/ucp.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/viewonline.php
> Disallow: /hu/forum/adm
> Disallow: /hu/forum/cache
> Disallow: /hu/forum/docs
> Disallow: /hu/forum/files
> Disallow: /hu/forum/images
> Disallow: /hu/forum/includes
> Disallow: /hu/forum/language
> Disallow: /hu/forum/store
> Disallow: /hu/forum/styles
> Disallow: /ja/forum/common.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/config.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/con.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/faq.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/mcp.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/memberlist.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/posting.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/report.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/search.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/style.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/ucp.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/viewonline.php
> Disallow: /ja/forum/adm
> Disallow: /ja/forum/cache
> Disallow: /ja/forum/docs
> Disallow: /ja/forum/files
> Disallow: /ja/forum/images
> Disallow: /ja/forum/includes
> Disallow: /ja/forum/language
> Disallow: /ja/forum/store
> Disallow: /ja/forum/styles
> Disallow: /test
> Disallow: /nl/forum/common.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/config.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/con.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/faq.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/mcp.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/memberlist.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/posting.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/report.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/search.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/style.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/ucp.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/viewonline.php
> Disallow: /nl/forum/adm
> Disallow: /nl/forum/cache
> Disallow: /nl/forum/docs
> Disallow: /nl/forum/files
> Disallow: /nl/forum/images
> Disallow: /nl/forum/includes
> Disallow: /nl/forum/language
> Disallow: /nl/forum/store
> Disallow: /nl/forum/styles
> Disallow: /vi/forum/common.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/config.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/con.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/faq.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/mcp.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/memberlist.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/posting.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/report.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/search.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/style.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/ucp.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/viewonline.php
> Disallow: /vi/forum/adm
> Disallow: /vi/forum/cache
> Disallow: /vi/forum/docs
> Disallow: /vi/forum/files
> Disallow: /vi/forum/images
> Disallow: /vi/forum/includes
> 

Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Dave Fisher]

It’s not an IP Ban. Infra tells me that would not be a 301.

Ah-ha - here is the 301:

% curl -D headers http://forum.openoffice.org/ 


301 Moved Permanently

Moved Permanently
The document has moved https://forum.openoffice.org/";>here.


Surprising that they cannot shift from HTTP to HTTPS via a 301!

Regards,
Dave 

> On May 12, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Information about Infra IP Bans is here: 
> https://infra.apache.org/infra-ban.html
> 
> Please direct the Google engineer to that resource.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you sure you weren’t using forums.openoffice.org instead of 
>> forum.openoffice.org?
>> 
>> curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/ does return the correct page.
>> 
>> The robots.txt is this:
>> 
>> curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/robots.txt
>> User-agent: *
>> Crawl-delay: 1
>> Disallow: /en/forum/common.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/config.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/con.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/faq.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/mcp.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/memberlist.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/posting.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/report.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/search.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/style.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/ucp.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/viewonline.php
>> Disallow: /en/forum/adm
>> Disallow: /en/forum/cache
>> Disallow: /en/forum/docs
>> Disallow: /en/forum/files
>> Disallow: /en/forum/images
>> Disallow: /en/forum/includes
>> Disallow: /en/forum/language
>> Disallow: /en/forum/store
>> Disallow: /en/forum/styles
>> Disallow: /es/forum/common.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/config.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/con.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/faq.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/mcp.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/memberlist.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/posting.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/report.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/search.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/style.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/ucp.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/viewonline.php
>> Disallow: /es/forum/adm
>> Disallow: /es/forum/cache
>> Disallow: /es/forum/docs
>> Disallow: /es/forum/files
>> Disallow: /es/forum/images
>> Disallow: /es/forum/includes
>> Disallow: /es/forum/language
>> Disallow: /es/forum/store
>> Disallow: /es/forum/styles
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/common.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/config.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/con.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/faq.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/mcp.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/memberlist.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/posting.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/report.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/search.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/style.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/ucp.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/viewonline.php
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/adm
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/cache
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/docs
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/files
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/images
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/includes
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/language
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/store
>> Disallow: /fr/forum/styles
>> Disallow: /fr/ci-joint
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/common.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/config.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/con.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/faq.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/mcp.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/memberlist.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/posting.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/report.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/search.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/style.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/ucp.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/viewonline.php
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/adm
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/cache
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/docs
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/files
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/images
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/includes
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/language
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/store
>> Disallow: /hu/forum/styles
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/common.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/config.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/con.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/faq.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/mcp.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/memberlist.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/posting.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/report.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/search.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/style.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/ucp.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/viewonline.php
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/adm
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/cache
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/docs
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/files
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/images
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/includes
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/language
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/store
>> Disallow: /ja/forum/styles
>> Disallow: /test
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/common.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/config.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/con.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/faq.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/mcp.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/memberlist.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/posting.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/report.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/search.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/style.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/ucp.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/viewonline.php
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/adm
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/cache
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/docs
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/files
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/images
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/includes
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/language
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/store
>> Disallow: /nl/forum/styles
>> Disallow: /vi/forum/common.

Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Peter Kovacs]

Okay, I had a short debug session with Dave and Humbedooh.

We are now sure that the crawlers are not blocked. The 301 Response 
comes from the fact that Yandex still defaults to http and not https.


After I added https toi the URL all worked fine.

Wave did also do a curl request which also worked fine.


We have agreed now that I play the ball back to google, with the 
feedback that this looks like a Google internal issue.


The Robot.txt has not been changed for 11 years. Yandex can crawl the 
URL and we can curl the Webpage. So we think it is an Google Issue.



I very much appreciated the quick session. Thanks.


all the Best

Peter

Am 12.05.20 um 17:24 schrieb Dave Fisher:

It’s not an IP Ban. Infra tells me that would not be a 301.

Ah-ha - here is the 301:

% curl -D headers http://forum.openoffice.org/


301 Moved Permanently

Moved Permanently
The document has moved https://forum.openoffice.org/";>here.


Surprising that they cannot shift from HTTP to HTTPS via a 301!

Regards,
Dave


On May 12, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

Information about Infra IP Bans is here: https://infra.apache.org/infra-ban.html

Please direct the Google engineer to that resource.

Regards,
Dave


On May 12, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

Are you sure you weren’t using forums.openoffice.org instead of 
forum.openoffice.org?

curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/ does return the correct page.

The robots.txt is this:

curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/robots.txt
User-agent: *
Crawl-delay: 1
Disallow: /en/forum/common.php
Disallow: /en/forum/config.php
Disallow: /en/forum/con.php
Disallow: /en/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /en/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /en/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /en/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /en/forum/report.php
Disallow: /en/forum/search.php
Disallow: /en/forum/style.php
Disallow: /en/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /en/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /en/forum/adm
Disallow: /en/forum/cache
Disallow: /en/forum/docs
Disallow: /en/forum/files
Disallow: /en/forum/images
Disallow: /en/forum/includes
Disallow: /en/forum/language
Disallow: /en/forum/store
Disallow: /en/forum/styles
Disallow: /es/forum/common.php
Disallow: /es/forum/config.php
Disallow: /es/forum/con.php
Disallow: /es/forum/faq.php
Disallow: /es/forum/mcp.php
Disallow: /es/forum/memberlist.php
Disallow: /es/forum/posting.php
Disallow: /es/forum/report.php
Disallow: /es/forum/search.php
Disallow: /es/forum/style.php
Disallow: /es/forum/ucp.php
Disallow: /es/forum/viewonline.php
Disallow: /es/forum/adm
Disallow: /es/forum/cache
Disallow: /es/forum/docs
Disallow: /es/forum/files
Disallow: /es/forum/images
Disallow: /es/forum/includes
Disallow: /es/forum/language
Disallow: /es/forum/store
Disallow: /es/forum/styles
Disallow: /fr/forum/common.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/config.php
Disallow: /fr/forum/con.php
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Re: "Nightly Builds" location

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Dave
 
> It should be made clear that nightly builds are not required and not 
> advertised. The location and frequency is up to the project and is found by 
> asking on a project’s dev list.

And yet if a path is mentioned in the "ASF policy on software releases", that 
path should exist.
Curiously the "Information for end-users" link at the top of the same document 
pointing to http://www.apache.org/legal/release-download-pages#remind-users is 
another 404

I believe the webmas...@apache.org should do a revision of dead links ;)

> > On May 12, 2020, at 7:03 AM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Czeslaw
> > 
> >> In case of "Nightly Builds":
> >> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#build-directories
> >> their location is given as follows:  people.apache.org/builds
> >> 
> >> It doesn't work ("Not Found. "The requested URL was not found on this
> >> server.").
> >> 
> >> Can that be rectified?
> > 
> > Given that it is an error on a "toplevel website", according to ASF own 
> > rules, you can report that to webmas...@apache.org
> > (http://www.apache.org/foundation/contact.html)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Pedro
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Re: "Nightly Builds" location

[Czesław Wolański]

Hi,

>
>And yet if a path is mentioned in the "ASF policy on software releases",
that path should exist.
>

That was exactly my point. It is solely up to ASF to decide what kind of
information user shall see at the target page.
"Not Found. The requested URL was not found on this server." is hardly
user-friendly.

Regards,

Czesław






Am Di., 12. Mai 2020 um 17:52 Uhr schrieb Pedro Lino :

> Hi Dave
>
> > It should be made clear that nightly builds are not required and not
> advertised. The location and frequency is up to the project and is found by
> asking on a project’s dev list.
>
> And yet if a path is mentioned in the "ASF policy on software releases",
> that path should exist.
> Curiously the "Information for end-users" link at the top of the same
> document pointing to
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-download-pages#remind-users is
> another 404
>
> I believe the webmas...@apache.org should do a revision of dead links ;)
>
> > > On May 12, 2020, at 7:03 AM, Pedro Lino 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Czeslaw
> > >
> > >> In case of "Nightly Builds":
> > >> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#build-directories
> > >> their location is given as follows:  people.apache.org/builds
> > >>
> > >> It doesn't work ("Not Found. "The requested URL was not found on this
> > >> server.").
> > >>
> > >> Can that be rectified?
> > >
> > > Given that it is an error on a "toplevel website", according to ASF
> own rules, you can report that to webmas...@apache.org
> > > (http://www.apache.org/foundation/contact.html)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Pedro
> > >
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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi John,


We have not changed the Robots.txt file in 11 years. After checking back 
this is long standing, unchanged configuration.


The page itself is reachable by https://forum.openoffice.org. yandex 
response check gives an 200 return code, which indicates all is fine.


We were also able to curl the headers and all looked a okay. No Google 
Crawlers are blocked by IP address. I managed to confirm all those things.



Let try the Google Search:

Searchkey: OpenOffice Reset Profile

2nd link points to the right topic on the forum.


From our standpoint it looks everything as intended.

Since we have not change anything recently, but google search shows 
issues I assume the issue is within google Infrastructure causing the 
issue in your crawler.


I do not see what we should change and why. Feel free to respond to the 
mailing list.



All the Best

Peter



Am 12.05.20 um 11:56 schrieb John Mueller:

Hi Peter

It looks like Google's infrastructure for crawling the web can't access any
URLs at all from forum.openoffice.org, including the homepage. Sometimes
this is due to a firewall or abuse protection system recognizing these
requests as malicious. Over time, as we attempt to update the pages in the
search results by crawling URLs from the site, if we see that we can't
access them at all, they generally get removed from our search results, In
practice, this means that users won't be able to find your pages in Google
Search. Sometimes websites do that on purpose, if they don't want to be
found in search, I suspect it's more of an accident here. A simple way to
test is to use  https://search.google.com/test/mobile-friendly to check
URLs from your site (better would be to use
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9012289 , though that would
require verification of the site in Google Search Console first).

Hope this helps!
John




On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:33 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Hello Mr Mueller,


The forum.openoffice.org is our support Forum. When people have issues
they are often directed to this page for solutions.

Do you have a list of URLs googlebot has not able to crawl? We can then
check if the behavior is intended or not and we can tell you the reason for
this measurement.

I am not particular skilled in google search engine. I do not understand
the sentence:

This will cause those pages to drop out of Google's search results, and
will prevent new pages from being picked up for Search.

Can you explain this in an example please?


Thanks for the support.

All the best

Peter


Am 11.05.20 um 13:37 schrieb John Mueller:

Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org

I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your attention
to a critical issue with your website, and how it's available for Google's
web search.

In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop out
of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from being picked up
for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be accidentally
blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server issue. If you need
to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your website, we'd recommend
using the robots.txt file instead.

Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you can
use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your site's
Search Console account.

Thank you,
John Mueller (joh...@google.com)
Webmaster Trends Analyst




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Re: "Nightly Builds" location

[Dave Fisher]

Sure it should, but these reference should be rewritten. Rather than email 
webmaster@ I've submitted an INFRA JIRA issue.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20258

Here is the wiki page about OpenOffice nightlies:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Buildbot+info


> On May 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Czesław Wolański  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> 
>> And yet if a path is mentioned in the "ASF policy on software releases",
> that path should exist.
>> 
> 
> That was exactly my point. It is solely up to ASF to decide what kind of
> information user shall see at the target page.
> "Not Found. The requested URL was not found on this server." is hardly
> user-friendly.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Czesław
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am Di., 12. Mai 2020 um 17:52 Uhr schrieb Pedro Lino > :
> 
>> Hi Dave
>> 
>>> It should be made clear that nightly builds are not required and not
>> advertised. The location and frequency is up to the project and is found by
>> asking on a project’s dev list.
>> 
>> And yet if a path is mentioned in the "ASF policy on software releases",
>> that path should exist.
>> Curiously the "Information for end-users" link at the top of the same
>> document pointing to
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-download-pages#remind-users is
>> another 404
>> 
>> I believe the webmas...@apache.org should do a revision of dead links ;)
>> 
 On May 12, 2020, at 7:03 AM, Pedro Lino 
>> wrote:
 
 Hi Czeslaw
 
> In case of "Nightly Builds":
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#build-directories
> their location is given as follows:  people.apache.org/builds
> 
> It doesn't work ("Not Found. "The requested URL was not found on this
> server.").
> 
> Can that be rectified?
 
 Given that it is an error on a "toplevel website", according to ASF
>> own rules, you can report that to webmas...@apache.org
 (http://www.apache.org/foundation/contact.html)
 
 Regards,
 Pedro
 
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Re: Can't download full executable for OpenOffice on chrome or firefox

[Marcus]

Am 12.05.20 um 00:17 schrieb Ivan Cardenas:

Can't download full executable for OpenOffice on chrome or firefox

Problem description
Exchange this text to describe the problem

(What does not work? What do you expect?)
Browser variables
Values
...


I've downloaded a second ago and haven't seen a problem. So, in general 
it's working.


When you have problems with specific mirror servers then just change 
them. On the SourceForge webpage there is a grey "Problems Downloading?" 
button. Just click on it and choose a different mirror from the popup 
dialog.


HTH

Marcus


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