Re: gstreamer status for 4.2.0-dev?

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
So have we come up w/ an agreed upon decision? Are we baselining
gstreamer-1.0, and our community/build-systems will be based on
CentOS6 (ie: dropping "official" support for CentOS5)?

If so, I can start on some 4.2.0-dev r1834788 Linux builds...

(I'm already trying macOS builds but having some weird build
issues w/ main/store)

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main/store exported symbol issues

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
It looks like I'm having some weird build issues with
this module due to exported symbols not working out
(on macOS... haven't tried Linux yet). Any ideas??

The error is:

[ build CHK ] loaded modules: store
[ build PKG ] store_xml
mkdir -p 
/Users/jim/src/asf/AOO420/main/solver/420/unxmaccx.pro/workdir/Package/ && 
touch 
/Users/jim/src/asf/AOO420/main/solver/420/unxmaccx.pro/workdir/Package/store_xml
Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
  "UDK_3_0_0 {", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "global:", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "local:", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_acquireHandle;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_attrib;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_closeDirectory;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_closeFile;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_closeStream;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_createMemoryFile;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_findFirst;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_findNext;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_flushFile;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_flushStream;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_getFileRefererCount;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_getFileSize;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_getStreamSize;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_link;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_openDirectory;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_openFile;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_openStream;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_readStream;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_rebuildFile;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_releaseHandle;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_remove;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_rename;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_setStreamSize;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_symlink;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "store_writeStream;", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
  "};", referenced from:
 -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
make: *** [/Users/jim/src/asf/AOO420/main/solenv/gbuild/LinkTarget.mk:251: 
/Users/jim/src/asf/AOO420/main/solver/420/unxmaccx.pro/workdir/LinkTarget/Library/libstore.dylib]
 Error 1
dmake:  Error code 2, while making 'all'

1 module(s): 
store
need(s) to be rebuilt


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main/store exported symbol issues

2018-07-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Jim,

"Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:"

This might have something to do with Damjans changes for a Windows
64-bit build.

The buildbots for Windows and Linux are doing fine, so it seems to be
macOS only.

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 03.07.2018 um 13:26 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> It looks like I'm having some weird build issues with
> this module due to exported symbols not working out
> (on macOS... haven't tried Linux yet). Any ideas??
>
> The error is:
>
> [ build CHK ] loaded modules: store
> [ build PKG ] store_xml
> mkdir -p 
> /Users/jim/src/asf/AOO420/main/solver/420/unxmaccx.pro/workdir/Package/ && 
> touch 
> /Users/jim/src/asf/AOO420/main/solver/420/unxmaccx.pro/workdir/Package/store_xml
> Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
>   "UDK_3_0_0 {", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "global:", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "local:", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_acquireHandle;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_attrib;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_closeDirectory;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_closeFile;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_closeStream;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_createMemoryFile;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_findFirst;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_findNext;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_flushFile;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_flushStream;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_getFileRefererCount;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_getFileSize;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_getStreamSize;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_link;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_openDirectory;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_openFile;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_openStream;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_readStream;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_rebuildFile;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_releaseHandle;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_remove;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_rename;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_setStreamSize;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_symlink;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "store_writeStream;", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
>   "};", referenced from:
>  -exported_symbol[s_list] command line option
> ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
> clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see 
> invocation)
> make: *** [/Users/jim/src/asf/AOO420/main/solenv/gbuild/LinkTarget.mk:251: 
> /Users/jim/src/asf/AOO420/main/solver/420/unxmaccx.pro/workdir/LinkTarget/Library/libstore.dylib]
>  Error 1
> dmake:  Error code 2, while making 'all'
>
> 1 module(s): 
>   store
> need(s) to be rebuilt
>
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Re: main/store exported symbol issues

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski


> On Jul 3, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> "Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:"
> 
> This might have something to do with Damjans changes for a Windows 64-bit 
> build.
> 
> The buildbots for Windows and Linux are doing fine, so it seems to be macOS 
> only.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 

Thanks... anyone recall offhand what those changes were, svn rev #s, etc...?



Re: gstreamer status for 4.2.0-dev?

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Oops. Forget that. Even CentOS6 doesn't support gstreamer-1.0.


> On Jul 3, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> So have we come up w/ an agreed upon decision? Are we baselining
> gstreamer-1.0, and our community/build-systems will be based on
> CentOS6 (ie: dropping "official" support for CentOS5)?
> 
> If so, I can start on some 4.2.0-dev r1834788 Linux builds...
> 
> (I'm already trying macOS builds but having some weird build
> issues w/ main/store)
> 
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Re: main/store exported symbol issues

2018-07-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 03.07.2018 um 13:59 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>
>> On Jul 3, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> "Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:"
>>
>> This might have something to do with Damjans changes for a Windows 64-bit 
>> build.
>>
>> The buildbots for Windows and Linux are doing fine, so it seems to be macOS 
>> only.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
> Thanks... anyone recall offhand what those changes were, svn rev #s, etc...?

Of course Damjan knows best! ;-)

But this might fit:
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1827620

Regards,
   Matthias

>
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Re: gstreamer status for 4.2.0-dev?

2018-07-03 Thread Peter Kovacs
I think there was no big support for supporting gstreamer 0.1.0 on 4.2. 
branch. If those who need it , they should help.
Also I think it makes more sense in such a case to keep maintenance for 
4.1.x branch.


That means we will have to move to centOS7 for building.



On 03.07.2018 14:00, Jim Jagielski wrote:

Oops. Forget that. Even CentOS6 doesn't support gstreamer-1.0.



On Jul 3, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

So have we come up w/ an agreed upon decision? Are we baselining
gstreamer-1.0, and our community/build-systems will be based on
CentOS6 (ie: dropping "official" support for CentOS5)?

If so, I can start on some 4.2.0-dev r1834788 Linux builds...

(I'm already trying macOS builds but having some weird build
issues w/ main/store)

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Re: gstreamer status for 4.2.0-dev?

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1. I'll start on a CentOS7 VM.

BTW, up to now I've been using VMware Fusion, but will likely start using Vbox 
instead... I'm assuming most people are using that anyway and it would be nice 
to be able to share the VMs with others.

> On Jul 3, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> I think there was no big support for supporting gstreamer 0.1.0 on 4.2. 
> branch. If those who need it , they should help.
> Also I think it makes more sense in such a case to keep maintenance for 4.1.x 
> branch.
> 
> That means we will have to move to centOS7 for building.
> 
> 
> 
> On 03.07.2018 14:00, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> Oops. Forget that. Even CentOS6 doesn't support gstreamer-1.0.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 3, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So have we come up w/ an agreed upon decision? Are we baselining
>>> gstreamer-1.0, and our community/build-systems will be based on
>>> CentOS6 (ie: dropping "official" support for CentOS5)?
>>> 
>>> If so, I can start on some 4.2.0-dev r1834788 Linux builds...
>>> 
>>> (I'm already trying macOS builds but having some weird build
>>> issues w/ main/store)
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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Peter,

Am 01.07.2018 um 17:27 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> Hi everbody.
>
>
> I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we
> manage to get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some
> stuff to get out to the people.
>
> Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security.
> Containing some security fixes, plus
>
>
>  - Java 8 Update 172
>  - Apache Ant 1.10.3
>  - Mozilla Build 3.2
>  - NSIS 3.03
>  - some minor fixes
>
> I think Matthias patch set is a nice small and good bundle, to
> release. I would only like to add a patch from Bugzilla which adds SSL
> capabilities to merge mail. (Has been a topic recently)
>
> I suggest we create and merge all patches collected together into
> 4.1.6 branch.
>
> Is there support for bringing this out and test it? :)

Obviously a +1 from me! ;-)

But apart from preparing the code we must not forget these two issues:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127530
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789

Regards,
   Matthias

>
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Marcus

Am 01.07.2018 um 17:27 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we 
manage to get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some stuff 
to get out to the people.


Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security. 
Containing some security fixes, plus



  - Java 8 Update 172
  - Apache Ant 1.10.3
  - Mozilla Build 3.2
  - NSIS 3.03
  - some minor fixes

I think Matthias patch set is a nice small and good bundle, to release. 
I would only like to add a patch from Bugzilla which adds SSL 
capabilities to merge mail. (Has been a topic recently)


I suggest we create and merge all patches collected together into 4.1.6 
branch.


Is there support for bringing this out and test it? :)


+1

I can test builds on Linux 64-bit.

Marcus


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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
As soon as we have a repo branch setup, I'll kick off Linux and macOS builds.

> On Jul 3, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 01.07.2018 um 17:27 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we manage 
>> to get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some stuff to get out 
>> to the people.
>> Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security. 
>> Containing some security fixes, plus
>>  - Java 8 Update 172
>>  - Apache Ant 1.10.3
>>  - Mozilla Build 3.2
>>  - NSIS 3.03
>>  - some minor fixes
>> I think Matthias patch set is a nice small and good bundle, to release. I 
>> would only like to add a patch from Bugzilla which adds SSL capabilities to 
>> merge mail. (Has been a topic recently)
>> I suggest we create and merge all patches collected together into 4.1.6 
>> branch.
>> Is there support for bringing this out and test it? :)
> 
> +1
> 
> I can test builds on Linux 64-bit.
> 
> Marcus
> 
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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 03.07.2018 um 19:47 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> As soon as we have a repo branch setup, I'll kick off Linux and macOS builds.

I'll do the Windows builds... ;-)

>
>> On Jul 3, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Marcus  wrote:
>>
>> Am 01.07.2018 um 17:27 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>> I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we manage 
>>> to get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some stuff to get 
>>> out to the people.
>>> Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security. 
>>> Containing some security fixes, plus
>>>  - Java 8 Update 172
>>>  - Apache Ant 1.10.3
>>>  - Mozilla Build 3.2
>>>  - NSIS 3.03
>>>  - some minor fixes
>>> I think Matthias patch set is a nice small and good bundle, to release. I 
>>> would only like to add a patch from Bugzilla which adds SSL capabilities to 
>>> merge mail. (Has been a topic recently)
>>> I suggest we create and merge all patches collected together into 4.1.6 
>>> branch.
>>> Is there support for bringing this out and test it? :)
>> +1
>>
>> I can test builds on Linux 64-bit.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Kay,

Am 01.07.2018 um 23:51 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> Hi *,
>
> If 4.1.6 would contain some needed security fixes, by all means, it
> needs to be released as soon as possible.
>
> Some questions --
>
> Will Java 8  then be the minimum version to use 4.1.6?
> Because Ant is only used for building, this should not affect any
> end-user requirements, right?

Java 8 will only be used for building. The end user should be able to
use Java 7 or Java 8.
Not sure about Java 6, but that has been EOL for a long time.

(Speaking for Windows, I don't know how the other platforms will be built)

> Would 4.1.6 still be using gstreamer 0.10?

Yes.

>
>
>
> On 07/01/2018 08:27 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Hi everbody.
>>
>>
>> I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we
>> manage to get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some
>> stuff to get out to the people.
>>
>> Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security.
>> Containing some security fixes, plus
>>
>>
>>  - Java 8 Update 172
>>  - Apache Ant 1.10.3
>>  - Mozilla Build 3.2
>>  - NSIS 3.03
>>  - some minor fixes
>>
>> I think Matthias patch set is a nice small and good bundle, to
>> release. I would only like to add a patch from Bugzilla which adds SSL
>> capabilities to merge mail. (Has been a topic recently)
>>
>> I suggest we create and merge all patches collected together into
>> 4.1.6 branch.
>>
>> Is there support for bringing this out and test it? :)
>>
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Peter
>>
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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski



> On Jul 1, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> Hi everbody.
> 
> 
> I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we manage 
> to get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some stuff to get out 
> to the people.
> 
> Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security. Containing 
> some security fixes, plus
> 
> 
>  - Java 8 Update 172
>  - Apache Ant 1.10.3

What is wrong w/ Apache Ant 1.9.12? Why the need for 1.10.x?


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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 03.07.2018 um 21:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>
>> On Jul 1, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>
>> Hi everbody.
>>
>>
>> I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we manage 
>> to get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some stuff to get out 
>> to the people.
>>
>> Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security. 
>> Containing some security fixes, plus
>>
>>
>>  - Java 8 Update 172
>>  - Apache Ant 1.10.3
> What is wrong w/ Apache Ant 1.9.12? Why the need for 1.10.x?

What is wrong with Ant 1.10.x? If we build with Java 8 we can use it... ;-)
My test build was just a Proof-of-Concept what can be done with AOO 4.1.x.

But of course we can build with 1.9.x if that is wanted?

Regards,
   Matthias

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Re: main/store exported symbol issues

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Looking over it again, it looks like the build is trying to do something wonky
with the store.map file...

> On Jul 3, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Am 03.07.2018 um 13:59 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> 
>>> On Jul 3, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> "Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:"
>>> 
>>> This might have something to do with Damjans changes for a Windows 64-bit 
>>> build.
>>> 
>>> The buildbots for Windows and Linux are doing fine, so it seems to be macOS 
>>> only.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>   Matthias
>>> 
>> Thanks... anyone recall offhand what those changes were, svn rev #s, etc...?
> 
> Of course Damjan knows best! ;-)
> 
> But this might fit:
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1827620
> 
> Regards,
>Matthias
> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: main/store exported symbol issues

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
I think this may have to do w/ the 'Implement the ability to build "UDK 
versioned" libraries in gbuild'
stuff from

 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1827456

This is breaking macOS horribly!

> On Jul 3, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Am 03.07.2018 um 13:59 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> 
>>> On Jul 3, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> "Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:"
>>> 
>>> This might have something to do with Damjans changes for a Windows 64-bit 
>>> build.
>>> 
>>> The buildbots for Windows and Linux are doing fine, so it seems to be macOS 
>>> only.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>   Matthias
>>> 
>> Thanks... anyone recall offhand what those changes were, svn rev #s, etc...?
> 
> Of course Damjan knows best! ;-)
> 
> But this might fit:
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1827620
> 
> Regards,
>Matthias
> 
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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
The above made it appear that Ant 1.9.x was no longer supported plus had some 
sort of security related issue making it unsuited for AOO... ie, we *needed* to 
use Ant 1.10 not just that we now *can* use it.

How about showing some sympathy and understanding for those who may be stuck w/ 
older machines? After all, let's be real, our continued support for "older" 
systems is the only real thing we have going for us... It's these little things 
that make significant ripples in our eco-system and we seem to not really care 
about that anymore.

> On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Am 03.07.2018 um 21:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everbody.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we manage 
>>> to get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some stuff to get 
>>> out to the people.
>>> 
>>> Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security. 
>>> Containing some security fixes, plus
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Java 8 Update 172
>>> - Apache Ant 1.10.3
>> What is wrong w/ Apache Ant 1.9.12? Why the need for 1.10.x?
> 
> What is wrong with Ant 1.10.x? If we build with Java 8 we can use it... ;-)
> My test build was just a Proof-of-Concept what can be done with AOO 4.1.x.
> 
> But of course we can build with 1.9.x if that is wanted?
> 
> Regards,
>Matthias
> 
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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
What impact has Ant 1.10.x exactly on older machines?
It is no problem for me to build the Windows version with Ant 1.9.12. As
long as we use Java 8.

But again, I just did a personal build to test AOO 4.1.x with Java 8.
Nothing else.
To be more precise: I was the only one who cared. No response from other
members!


Am 03.07.2018 um 23:19 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> The above made it appear that Ant 1.9.x was no longer supported plus had some 
> sort of security related issue making it unsuited for AOO... ie, we *needed* 
> to use Ant 1.10 not just that we now *can* use it.
>
> How about showing some sympathy and understanding for those who may be stuck 
> w/ older machines? After all, let's be real, our continued support for 
> "older" systems is the only real thing we have going for us... It's these 
> little things that make significant ripples in our eco-system and we seem to 
> not really care about that anymore.
>
>> On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 03.07.2018 um 21:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 On Jul 1, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:

 Hi everbody.


 I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we 
 manage to get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some stuff 
 to get out to the people.

 Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security. 
 Containing some security fixes, plus


 - Java 8 Update 172
 - Apache Ant 1.10.3
>>> What is wrong w/ Apache Ant 1.9.12? Why the need for 1.10.x?
>> What is wrong with Ant 1.10.x? If we build with Java 8 we can use it... ;-)
>> My test build was just a Proof-of-Concept what can be done with AOO 4.1.x.
>>
>> But of course we can build with 1.9.x if that is wanted?
>>
>> Regards,
>>Matthias
>>
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Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-07-03 Thread Peter Kovacs
I think Jim is referring to the gstreamer situation, where we decided 
that we skip CentOS6 more or less for 4.2.0.And one argument was, if 
they want something they should support us. This is not showing sympathy 
for a small user group that uses very old software for 2 more years 
until they have to move to CentOS 7. I personally think that the 
gstreamer Topic can be solved after we have released a beta version. 
Damjan and I have pointed out a lot of possible ways to deal with the 
issue. Just for now I think we have other problems then gstreamer in 
4.2.0. I think it is my fault that I put that argument so much in the 
front line, but that stuck for me.


In the last months we had a drop in activity. And more then one topic 
received not the attention it deserved. I would not conclude that anyone 
has stopped caring at this point in time.



Let us conclude for now:
4.1.x is still in maintenance. And in my opinion we could think of 
maintaining it until 2020 when CentOS6 drops out of maintenance. Some 
support from CentOS6 side would be nice. But we need to search someone 
for this.

I have that on my todo list, but did not manage to follow it up.

4.2.0 has I think 3 bugs we know about and that blocks a beta release. 
Current target for building with gstreamer is CentOS7. Building without 
gstreamer could be done on CentOS6. We should keep the code in trunc 
CentOS 6 compatible where ever we can for now. That will make it easy to 
back port patches to 4.1.x if we decide to maintain 4.1.x until EOL of 
CentOS6.


All these decisions can wait a little longer. For me that is the current 
strategy.
@Jim: I hope you see there is a lot of "in the flow" around the topic. 
And it depends also on how the project manages in the future.


On 03.07.2018 23:50, Matthias Seidel wrote:

What impact has Ant 1.10.x exactly on older machines?
It is no problem for me to build the Windows version with Ant 1.9.12. As
long as we use Java 8.

But again, I just did a personal build to test AOO 4.1.x with Java 8.
Nothing else.
To be more precise: I was the only one who cared. No response from other
members!


Am 03.07.2018 um 23:19 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

The above made it appear that Ant 1.9.x was no longer supported plus had some 
sort of security related issue making it unsuited for AOO... ie, we *needed* to 
use Ant 1.10 not just that we now *can* use it.

How about showing some sympathy and understanding for those who may be stuck w/ older 
machines? After all, let's be real, our continued support for "older" systems 
is the only real thing we have going for us... It's these little things that make 
significant ripples in our eco-system and we seem to not really care about that anymore.


On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

Am 03.07.2018 um 21:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

On Jul 1, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:

Hi everbody.


I would like to bring a 4.1.6 Release on the way in July. Even if we manage to 
get 4.2.0 ready it will only be a beta. And we have some stuff to get out to 
the people.

Matthias has created a suggestion for a 4.1.6 release on security. Containing 
some security fixes, plus


- Java 8 Update 172
- Apache Ant 1.10.3

What is wrong w/ Apache Ant 1.9.12? Why the need for 1.10.x?

What is wrong with Ant 1.10.x? If we build with Java 8 we can use it... ;-)
My test build was just a Proof-of-Concept what can be done with AOO 4.1.x.

But of course we can build with 1.9.x if that is wanted?

Regards,
Matthias


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