[DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-02-08 Thread Peter Junge

On 06/02/15 20:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 30/01/2015 19:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as
the OpenOffice project PMC Chair?
[ ] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid)
[ ] Jan Iversen (jani)
Vote opens now and it will last one week, until 6 February 2015 7:00 PM
GMT, to give all community members the opportunity to participate.


Vote is closed.

Preliminary results see 10 binding votes for jani, 8 binding votes for 
orcmid. But results are so close that I recommend that everybody who 
voted checks below that I counted his/her vote correctly. Let me know 
if I made any mistakes, please.


What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache 
philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal. 
10(+5) to 8(+3) with 9 abstaining is a thin margin, I'm not yet seeing 
any clear consensus in it. A a considerable and easy way out might be a 
double chair with both Jan and Dennis; especially they also seem to have 
complementary skills.


/Peter



Votes from the OpenOffice PMC 
http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice-pmc :


10 jani:

   alg  arist  hdu
   jsc  khiranomarcus
   mechtildemikeadvo   orw
   pescetti

 8 orcmid:

   arielch  galoppini  kschenk
   louispj regina
   robweir  wave

 9 Abstaining:

  af   atjensendpharbison
  fanyuzhenimacat  ingotian
  jim  mayongl rgb-es

Plus the following votes from other community members:
 5 jani (Michal Hrin, Simon Phipps, Olaf Felka, Alexandro Colorado, 
Guy Waterval)

 3 orcmid (Keith N. McKenna, V Stuart Foote, Dave Barton)

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Download stats update

2015-02-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I notice that the stats havent been update to 2015. We are already on
February and 2015 don't show up in the scale.I would expect at least a 5%
of the graph to belong to 2015.

If there is a way to manually update these stats, I could try to do the
work.

-- 
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Apache OpenOffice Contributor
882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9  5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614


[RESULT] [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-02-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 30/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

In my capacity as the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair, I will submit a
resolution to the Board asking to be replaced by the most voted of the
two candidates. ...
Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as
the OpenOffice project PMC Chair?
[ ] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid)
[ ] Jan Iversen (jani)


After confirmation from Dennis, results match the preliminary results I 
had sent here. So I will send a resolution for the next Board Meeting 
(18 February) for replacing me with Jan Iversen.


Now that my formal duties for this vote are over, let me express my 
gratitude to both Dennis and Jan for being available to run. Both of 
them started programming before I was born, and it is impressing to see 
their energy and dedication to the project. The contribution of both of 
them will be essential in moving this project forward.


Full tally below.

Votes from the OpenOffice PMC 
http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice-pmc :


10 jani:

   alg  arist  hdu
   jsc  khiranomarcus
   mechtildemikeadvo   orw
   pescetti

 8 orcmid:

   arielch  galoppini  kschenk
   louispj regina
   robweir  wave

 9 Abstaining:

  af   atjensendpharbison
  fanyuzhenimacat  ingotian
  jim  mayongl rgb-es

Plus the following votes from other community members:
 5 jani (Michal Hrin, Simon Phipps, Olaf Felka, Alexandro Colorado, Guy 
Waterval)

 3 orcmid (Keith N. McKenna, V Stuart Foote, Dave Barton)

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-02-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Peter Junge wrote:

What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache
philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal.


Conclusion is that Jan is the person I will recommend for replacing me. 
The vote outcome determines the new Chair.



A a considerable and easy way out might be a
double chair with both Jan and Dennis; especially they also seem to have
complementary skills.


We have one Chair. And it will be Jan. Of course, it's natural to think 
that Dennis can/will have a major role in the project. This is the duty 
of PMC members. And it can be done without any formal titles (a thing 
that I'm sure neither Dennis or Jan are attached to). So it's totally 
welcome for me to see Jan, Dennis AND ALL OF US work together and help 
in different project areas.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [PRIVATE] Fwd: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-02-08 Thread jan i
On Saturday, February 7, 2015, Peter Junge  wrote:

> On 06/02/15 20:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> On 30/01/2015 19:52, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as
>>> the OpenOffice project PMC Chair?
>>> [ ] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid)
>>> [ ] Jan Iversen (jani)
>>> Vote opens now and it will last one week, until 6 February 2015 7:00 PM
>>> GMT, to give all community members the opportunity to participate.
>>>
>>
>> Vote is closed.
>>
>> Preliminary results see 10 binding votes for jani, 8 binding votes for
>> orcmid. But results are so close that I recommend that everybody who voted
>> checks below that I counted his/her vote correctly. Let me know if I made
>> any mistakes, please.
>>
>
> What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache
> philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal.
> 10(+5) to 8(+3) with 9 abstaining is a thin margin, I'm not yet seeing any
> clear consensus in it. A a considerable and easy way out might be a double
> chair with both Jan and Dennis; especially they also seem to have
> complementary skills.


Double chair is not possible in apache. Chair is the connection to the
board all other duties/responsibilities are all PMC every project has
exactly 1 chair, therefore it makes real good sense to inite Dennis.

You are right in ASF we alwayes try to make consensus, but I am not sure
what can bevdone in this case. If there is a general feeling that this vote
needs somehow to be redone, I am not the one standing in the way.

Furthermore I am NOT elected by the vite, but Andrea sends a
recommmendation to the board based on the vote, then the board decide if
they want to accept the recommendation.

rgds
jan i

>
> /Peter
>
>
>> Votes from the OpenOffice PMC http://people.apache.org/
>> committers-by-project.html#openoffice-pmc :
>>
>> 10 jani:
>>
>>alg  arist  hdu
>>jsc  khiranomarcus
>>mechtildemikeadvo   orw
>>pescetti
>>
>>  8 orcmid:
>>
>>arielch  galoppini  kschenk
>>louispj regina
>>robweir  wave
>>
>>  9 Abstaining:
>>
>>   af   atjensendpharbison
>>   fanyuzhenimacat  ingotian
>>   jim  mayongl rgb-es
>>
>> Plus the following votes from other community members:
>>  5 jani (Michal Hrin, Simon Phipps, Olaf Felka, Alexandro Colorado, Guy
>> Waterval)
>>  3 orcmid (Keith N. McKenna, V Stuart Foote, Dave Barton)
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
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Thoughts about new chair, and PMC changes

2015-02-08 Thread jan i
Hi.

First of all thanks to all those who voted for me as new chair and PMC
member. A special thank to Dennis for running as candidate, in my opinion
Dennis is at least as, if not more, qualified than I am and I hope that
will be acknowledged very fast.

Looking at the votes makes me a bit concerned. Had one candidate got e.g.
90% of the votes, it would have been a show of a united community.

The current distribution of votes can have multiple causes:
1) Votes were cast due to the goal/work target of each candidate
2) Votes go to one candidate as a indirect -1 to the other candidate
3) Both candidates are equally good, so the project will benefit from both.

I hope the cause is number 3. Because both 1 and 2 signal we have something
to correct or reunite.

The work as chair is simple and well defined, but the PMC work is a lot
more open for definitions, therefore I ask those who feel like it, and
especially those who voted for Dennis...please give me a mail if there is
something I should do better or not do (as PMC). I cannot give promises,
but to me it is important that we have a united community.

We have challenging work ahead of us, which we must be able to concentrate
on..so let us all start pulling and hopefully in the same direction.

I for one, will start discussions about what we need to change to seriously
attract people, and give our code a facelift...I do have some indications
from elsewhere that are equally exciting and innovative, more about this
later.

jan I.


Re: Download stats update

2015-02-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> I notice that the stats havent been update to 2015. We are already on
> February and 2015 don't show up in the scale.I would expect at least a 5%
> of the graph to belong to 2015.
>

I've been updating the stats occasionally, using the scripts here:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/

Only the querying from SourceForge is automated.  The update of the
CSV file that produces the chart is still manual.

If you want to give it a try, I'm happy to answer any questions.
Otherwise it is easy for me to update this.

Regards,

-Rob


> If there is a way to manually update these stats, I could try to do the
> work.
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9  5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614

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Accessing docs saved on Poer PC mac

2015-02-08 Thread john hughes

Dear Open Office,

I have a number of Office files saved on a hard drive from my G5 Mac (now 
deceased) and I cannot open them on my new Mac Lap top (OSX 10.8.5.) I would 
like to know if there is any software that I can get to access these files or 
any way I can open them. I would be obliged to you for any useful suggestions.

Yours sincerely,

John Hughes
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Re: Accessing docs saved on Poer PC mac

2015-02-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Have you tried to manually open them from OpenOffice?
1.  Open Openoffice Writer.
2.  Go to File -> Open
3.  Select the filetype (doc, docx).
4.  Go to the directory with your files, and open them.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:15 AM, john hughes  wrote:

>
> Dear Open Office,
>
> I have a number of Office files saved on a hard drive from my G5 Mac (now
> deceased) and I cannot open them on my new Mac Lap top (OSX 10.8.5.) I
> would like to know if there is any software that I can get to access these
> files or any way I can open them. I would be obliged to you for any useful
> suggestions.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> John Hughes
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Re: Download stats update

2015-02-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> > I notice that the stats havent been update to 2015. We are already on
> > February and 2015 don't show up in the scale.I would expect at least a 5%
> > of the graph to belong to 2015.
> >
>
> I've been updating the stats occasionally, using the scripts here:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/
>
> Only the querying from SourceForge is automated.  The update of the
> CSV file that produces the chart is still manual.
>
> If you want to give it a try, I'm happy to answer any questions.
> Otherwise it is easy for me to update this.
>

​Well I have two, one was for the final URL that the script needed from
Sourceforge?
The other question is related, but as I look on SF API seems this is for a
single file download, and I wonder how to concurrently do all of the files
from the release.

However, I tried this with the detail-by-day.py script which required the
SF URL, however if this script you showed me dont need any arguments (URL
or date limits) I guess it would be fine.

I tested the get-aoo-stats.py but also ask me for a list of URLs (I assume
these are for each file from the release). If you can provide a sample dump
for the current release, it would be good enough for me.

get-aoo-stats.py
syntax:  python get-aoo-stats.py   []
where  is a list of files URL's to gather stats on,
and  is a date of interest, in -MM-DD format.
If two dates are given this expresses a range of dates.




>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > If there is a way to manually update these stats, I could try to do the
> > work.
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9  5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
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RE: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-02-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For the record, I am in complete accord with the outcome and how Andrea is 
moving his recommendation for new Chair forward to the ASF Board.  I shall 
continue as a contributor. I look forward to our moving forward on Andrea's 
Priority #2 proposal.

I have no interpretation to offer concerning details of the [VOTE] and the 
quantitative outcome.  My only observations is that the cast votes are what 
they were (and what votes not cast were not) and the outcome is what it is.  
Elections are like that, to the bemusement of all [;<).

-Original Message-
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] 
Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 02:24
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

Peter Junge wrote:
> What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache
> philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal.

Conclusion is that Jan is the person I will recommend for replacing me. 
The vote outcome determines the new Chair.

> A a considerable and easy way out might be a
> double chair with both Jan and Dennis; especially they also seem to have
> complementary skills.

We have one Chair. And it will be Jan. Of course, it's natural to think 
that Dennis can/will have a major role in the project. This is the duty 
of PMC members. And it can be done without any formal titles (a thing 
that I'm sure neither Dennis or Jan are attached to). So it's totally 
welcome for me to see Jan, Dennis AND ALL OF US work together and help 
in different project areas.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Download stats update

2015-02-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>> > I notice that the stats havent been update to 2015. We are already on
>> > February and 2015 don't show up in the scale.I would expect at least a 5%
>> > of the graph to belong to 2015.
>> >
>>
>> I've been updating the stats occasionally, using the scripts here:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/
>>
>> Only the querying from SourceForge is automated.  The update of the
>> CSV file that produces the chart is still manual.
>>
>> If you want to give it a try, I'm happy to answer any questions.
>> Otherwise it is easy for me to update this.
>>
>
> Well I have two, one was for the final URL that the script needed from
> Sourceforge?
> The other question is related, but as I look on SF API seems this is for a
> single file download, and I wonder how to concurrently do all of the files
> from the release.
>


The detail-by-day.py script is the one you want.   You'll also need to
"all.lst" data file from the same directory.  It is a list of all the
program file downloads on SF for AOO, for all releases.

You run like:

python detail-by-day.py all.lst start-date end-date

for example:

python detail-by-day.py all.lst 2015-01-01 2015-02-01 >out.csv

You can then load the CSV file into Calc and do calculations from there.

Regards,

-Rob



> However, I tried this with the detail-by-day.py script which required the
> SF URL, however if this script you showed me dont need any arguments (URL
> or date limits) I guess it would be fine.
>
> I tested the get-aoo-stats.py but also ask me for a list of URLs (I assume
> these are for each file from the release). If you can provide a sample dump
> for the current release, it would be good enough for me.
>
> get-aoo-stats.py
> syntax:  python get-aoo-stats.py   []
> where  is a list of files URL's to gather stats on,
> and  is a date of interest, in -MM-DD format.
> If two dates are given this expresses a range of dates.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> > If there is a way to manually update these stats, I could try to do the
>> > work.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alexandro Colorado
>> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
>> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9  5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
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