date:20130725

On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 08:32:52 +0200
Hagar Delest  wrote:

> EN forum is very slow.
> The too many connections error may come back soon. Do we have to wait for 
> imacat for that?
> 
Just now (08:50 UTC+1) En-Forum off line again.
Prior to that, as Hagar says, it was very very slow.

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Legacy (3.4.1 versions)


To answer a query on the en-Forum I have been searching for an archived version 
of AOO 3.4.1 (Swedish).  All the archived versions I find, of whatever 
language, are of OOo 3.3 and earlier. 

Perhaps I am just having a bad day (yes, from other aspects!), but if not, the 
3.4.1 versions ought be made available in archives or legacy links.

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Re: Legacy (3.4.1 versions)

On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:45:10 +0100
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> 
> To answer a query on the en-Forum I have been searching for an archived 
> version of AOO 3.4.1 (Swedish).  All the archived versions I find, of 
> whatever language, are of OOo 3.3 and earlier. 
> 
> Perhaps I am just having a bad day (yes, from other aspects!), but if not, 
> the 3.4.1 versions ought be made available in archives or legacy links.
> 
> -- 
> Rory O'Farrell 

In a reply to the thread in question, Hagar has directed the querist to
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/sv/3.4.1/


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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 7/25/13 7:37 AM, Mechtilde wrote:
> Hello Juergen, Dave, all Am 24.07.2013 23:53, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>> 
>>> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 um 17:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado 
  wrote:

> I would like to see a blog entry tutorial demonstrating the
>  installation of OpenOffice on the 4 major distros and also
> Win and OSX.
> 
> This would be helpful to the community I think.

 The Install Guide covers installation on Linux -- but not
 from a distro specific perspective. These instructions work
 very well for some distros and not well for others. I can't
 elaborate much more on that statement.

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html

 When we released 3.4., we found some additional installation 
 instructions which are included in the wiki version of the
 Linux install page (which now also needs some slight
 updating):

 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation/How_do_I_install_OpenOffice.org_on_Linux%3F#Where_can_I_find_more_information_on_installing_OpenOffice_on_Linux.3F

>

I would suggest if you find tutorials, or create tutorials yourself, for
 any Linux distros, that you put links to them on the above
 wiki page.

>>> 
>>> if a distro installs LibreOffice when the user select
>>> OpenOffice it's a trademark violation and it is time to stop
>>> this...
>>> 
>>> Just my opinion, they can do whatever they want but we should
>>> stop them to use our brand.
>> 
>> If the PMC wants to do this then we should discuss this with
>> Shane on the trademarks@ list.
>> 
>> We probably want to see if the distributors are willing to
>> cooperate first.
> 
> What do you expect?
> 
> We should look deeper into the process how the installation or
> update if openoffice/libreoffice works in the distributions (actual
> versions)
> 
> If people tell us that they don't get the office they want then we
> have to analyse what the do. Then we have to explain how they get
> what they want
> 
> So we can solve most of the problems.
> 
> Please NO trademark war against Linux distributions.

nobody wants a trademark war, we simply want that it is taken careful
and don't underestimate the power of our brand.

I really would like to collaborate with the distros and also with
volunteers of LibreOffice.

The question is how wec an collaborate with LO best, the current
approach how they take stuff from AOO is damaging open source in
general. They can take it but the communication how they do it is key
here. And to be honest I have no respect for this but I also believe
that this is only driven by a smaller group of people and not the
broad LO community.

I hope they will see the benefit of closer collaboration in the future.

Linux distros will hopefully be more open if we can find maintainers
who are interested to help and improve our building and packaging
process. This is a minimal requirements to find the way back into the
distros. Maybe not all but the ones that are open and believe in open
source.

> 
> As I told some weeks ago we need volunteers to maintain Apache 
> OpenOffice in each GNU/Linux Distributions.

agree that is key for all further steps to fnd the way back in any
distro. We need people who are interested to help here in this area

Juergen

> 
> Kind reards
> 
> 
> Mechtilde
>> 
>> Regards, Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> Juergen

> 
> On 7/24/13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
>  wrote:
>> Rory O'Farrell schrieb:
>>> Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the
>>> time has come to try to get it into the Linux
>>> distros.At present if one selects
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> OpenOffice
>>> in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should
>>> get a clear choice, not a default substitution.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The problem is mostly the lack of volunteers which are 
>> willing to package and maintain AOO among these distros' 
>> developers.
>> 
>> Gentoo has a precompiled version of AOO packaged: 
>> http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-office/openoffice-bin
>>
>>
>> 
Besides that, there exist some user maintained packages for
>> Ubuntu, Arch, Slackware and other distros.
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Some NL homepages that need updating for 4.0

2013-07-25 Thread Shenfeng Liu

I tried Chinese download page  http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/download/ .
But it looks I can not simply replace the global parameter VERSION with
another parameter as "4.0.0"... :(
The design of the Chinese download page is similar to en download page. So
I just wondering what makes "4.0.0" appear in en download page?

- Shenfeng (Simon)



2013/7/25 Xuacu 

> Thank you all.
>
> Today it's too late here, I'll put my hands on it tomorrow.
>
> Kind regards
> --
> Xuacu
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 24, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> >
> >> 2013/7/25 Xuacu 
> >>
> >>> Hi Marcus, all
> >>>
> >>> I've trying to find how I can translate that pages (and, perhaps,
> >>> create new ones) with no luck so far. I guess I need an account
> >>> "somewhere" and an access point to the CMS, but I've been unable to
> >>> find it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Try this page: http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html
> >>
> >> specially the part for the "bookmarklet".
> >
> >
> http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html#using-the-apache-cms-bookmarklet-simpler-method
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Ricardo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I suppose it must have been explained 100 times, but I missed it
> >>> all... could someone explain it one more time?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance, and my apologies for the inconveniences.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> --
> >>> Xuacu
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Marcus (OOo) 
> >>> wrote:
>  Am 07/23/2013 01:20 PM, schrieb Xuacu:
> 
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Rob Weir
>  wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The problem is that these pages use
> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/globalvars_improved.js
> >>> which still has 3.4.1, but since it's global configuration I didn't
> >>> change
> >>> it. The current download page uses
> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/globalvars.js
> >>> that has the correct numbers but does not work as a
> >>> globalvars_improved.js
> >>> replacement in the IT site.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Maybe Marcus can help describe what needs to be done here.  I bet
> >> their are HTML changes needed as well as pointing to the new
> >> javascript.
> >> [...]
> >
> >
> > Download page for Asturian is really outdated, and mostly points to
> > our NL team page which is outdated too. I will now fix our NL pages,
> > but it would be great if, as you say, someone describes what (and
> > where) is needed to fix AOO download page to keep as much as possible
> > within AOO site.
> 
> 
>  I've created a ".../ast/download/index.html" directory + webpage.
> 
>  BTW:
>  In the "index.html" I've set the variable NL_LANGUAGE to "ast". That
> >>> means
>  that only Asturian files can be downloaded.
> 
>  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ast/download/index.html
> 
>  Happy testing and translating. :-)
> 
>  And don't forget to change the link for download on
>  "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ast/index.html";
> 
>  Marcus
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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/25/open_office_40_debuts_with_ibm_code_side_and_centre/

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/apache-bolts-sidebar-onto-new-openoffice-1168196
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/openoffice-4-0-overhauls-user-interface-boosts-microsoft-compatibility/
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>> http://www.muylinux.com/2013/07/24/apache-openoffice-4/
>>>
>>> (Interesting choice of a logo, one of the other nice ones from the contest)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
 Important Japanese website:

 http://www.forest.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130724_608941.html

 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> http://www.datamation.com/applications/apache-releases-open-source-openoffice-4.html
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Ricardo Berlasso  
> wrote:
>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQxODQ
>>
>>
>> 2013/7/23 Rob Weir 
>>
>>> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-is-here/
>>>
>>> http://www.zdnet.com/openoffice-4-0-arrives-718456/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>> >
>>> http://office.about.com/b/2013/07/23/the-new-openoffice-available-today-new-side-bar-and-more.htm
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://amanz.my/2013/07/openoffice-4-0-dilancarkan-untuk-pengguna-windows-mac-dan-linux/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/07/23/1643204/apache-openoffice-40-released-with-major-new-features
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>> >> This is a nice one:
>>> >> http://betanews.com/2013/07/23/apache-releases-openoffice-4/
>>> >>
>>> >> -Rob
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Rob Weir  
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.chip.de/news/OpenOffice-4.0-Gross-Update-mit-neuen-Funktionen_63245985.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (They have a nice gallery of screen shots as well:
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.chip.de/bildergalerie/Alle-Neuheiten-von-Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-Galerie_63246075.html
>>> )
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weir  
>>> >>> wrote:
>>>  http://lwn.net/Articles/560203/  (All of three sentences.  I 
>>>  thought
>>>  they got paid by the word?)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-z-nowym-interfejsem,Aktualnosc,42866.html
>>> 
>>>  On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Rob Weir 
>>> wrote:
>>> > So far, so good.
>>> >
>>> > http://tweakers.net/meuktracker/31036/apache-openoffice-400.html
>>> >
>>> >
>>> www.ghacks.net/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-released-find-out-what-is-new
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Ricardo Berlasso <
>>> rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> 2013/7/23 Rob Weir 
>>> >>
>>> >>> http://www.itmagazine.ch/Artikel/53584/Openoffice_4.0_ist_da.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://denis-sylvain.be/2013/07/apache-openoffice-4-0-est-sorti/
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rob Weir 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> http://blog.open-office.es/index.php/inicio/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-0-ya-disponible-para-su-descarga
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/20046/apache-openoffice-40-erschienen.html
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> http://tic-et-net.org/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-fr-est-enfin-disponible-en-version-dfinitive/
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Rob Weir 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.lbenitez.com/2013/07/openoffice-40-is-available-now-go-and.html
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Rob Weir 
>>> >>> >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.golem.de/news/apache-openoffice-4-0-erscheint-mit-symphony-funktionen-1307-100567.html
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Rob Weir 
>>> >>> >>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>  Respond in this thread to share news articles, etc., 
>>> >>>  related
>>> to 4.0
>>> >>> release.
>>> >>> 
>>> >>>  So far I've seen, in the first 30 minutes:
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/07/23/561727/10041350/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-tm-OpenOffice-tm-4-0.html
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>>

Re: Legacy (3.4.1 versions)

2013-07-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Rory O'Farrell wrote:

In a reply to the thread in question, Hagar has directed the querist to
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/sv/3.4.1/


For 3.4.x, people should be sent to
http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/
http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/
(if you publish it online, please post both links; it is possible that 
the formed is merged with the latter in the next days).


It is good to tell people that, if they are looking for an older version 
due to missing language support, it is often easy to help and get 
OpenOffice 4 released in their language. All instructions at

http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html
and we can make (or already have) snapshot builds available in 
unreleased languages for volunteers who want to try them out.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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How to get a list of commits between 2 revisions

2013-07-25 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi all,

I'm looking at bug https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122822
I have narrowed it down to
OK in r1384746
broken in r1388589

That was in Sept.2012, when we were in incubator.
I cannot get that range in https://fisheye6.atlassian.com

How can I get a list of commits, that happen between r1384746 and r1388589?

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

2013-07-25 Thread Kazunari Hirano

Hi Rob,

Thanks.

Some Japanese coverage:
http://japan.internet.com/webtech/20130724/4.html
http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2013/07/25/017/
http://bizmash.jp/articles/48058.html
http://internet.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130724_608954.html

Regards,
khirano

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> Important Japanese website:
>
> http://www.forest.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130724_608941.html
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> http://www.datamation.com/applications/apache-releases-open-source-openoffice-4.html
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Ricardo Berlasso 
> wrote:
> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQxODQ
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/7/23 Rob Weir 
> >>
> >>> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-is-here/
> >>>
> >>> http://www.zdnet.com/openoffice-4-0-arrives-718456/
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>>
> http://office.about.com/b/2013/07/23/the-new-openoffice-available-today-new-side-bar-and-more.htm
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> http://amanz.my/2013/07/openoffice-4-0-dilancarkan-untuk-pengguna-windows-mac-dan-linux/
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/07/23/1643204/apache-openoffice-40-released-with-major-new-features
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Rob Weir 
> wrote:
> >>> >> This is a nice one:
> >>> >> http://betanews.com/2013/07/23/apache-releases-openoffice-4/
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -Rob
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Rob Weir 
> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.chip.de/news/OpenOffice-4.0-Gross-Update-mit-neuen-Funktionen_63245985.html
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> (They have a nice gallery of screen shots as well:
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.chip.de/bildergalerie/Alle-Neuheiten-von-Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-Galerie_63246075.html
> >>> )
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weir 
> wrote:
> >>>  http://lwn.net/Articles/560203/  (All of three sentences.  I
> thought
> >>>  they got paid by the word?)
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>
> http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-z-nowym-interfejsem,Aktualnosc,42866.html
> >>> 
> >>>  On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Rob Weir 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > So far, so good.
> >>> >
> >>> > http://tweakers.net/meuktracker/31036/apache-openoffice-400.html
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> www.ghacks.net/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-released-find-out-what-is-new
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Ricardo Berlasso <
> >>> rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> 2013/7/23 Rob Weir 
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>
> http://www.itmagazine.ch/Artikel/53584/Openoffice_4.0_ist_da.html
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> http://denis-sylvain.be/2013/07/apache-openoffice-4-0-est-sorti/
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rob Weir 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://blog.open-office.es/index.php/inicio/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-0-ya-disponible-para-su-descarga
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/20046/apache-openoffice-40-erschienen.html
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://tic-et-net.org/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-fr-est-enfin-disponible-en-version-dfinitive/
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Rob Weir <
> robw...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.lbenitez.com/2013/07/openoffice-40-is-available-now-go-and.html
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Rob Weir <
> robw...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.golem.de/news/apache-openoffice-4-0-erscheint-mit-symphony-funktionen-1307-100567.html
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Rob Weir <
> robw...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>  Respond in this thread to share news articles, etc.,
> related
> >>> to 4.0
> >>> >>> release.
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>>  So far I've seen, in the first 30 minutes:
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/07/23/561727/10041350/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-tm-OpenOffice-tm-4-0.html
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2045000/apache-openoffice-now-comes-with-a-handy-sidebar.html
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Apache-OpenOffice-4-0-Becomes-a-Serious-Player-with-Major-Overhaul-and-New-Features-370284.shtml
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.heise.de/mac-and-i/meldung/OpenOffice-4-0-mit-neuer-Seitenleiste-1921880.html
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>>  https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/559747687417446
> >>> >>> 
> >>> >>> 
> >>> http://sourceforge.net/

Re: How to get a list of commits between 2 revisions

2013-07-25 Thread Herbert Duerr

Hi Regina,

On 25.07.2013 13:32, Regina Henschel wrote:
> I'm looking at bug https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122822
> I have narrowed it down to
> OK in r1384746
> broken in r1388589
> 
> That was in Sept.2012, when we were in incubator.
> I cannot get that range in https://fisheye6.atlassian.com
> 
> How can I get a list of commits, that happen between r1384746 and r1388589?

If you are using svn directly do
svn log -r 1388589:1384746
in your repository.

Or if were using git-svn you could use the wonderful gitk tool or its
relatives like qgit.

Herbert

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Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

2013-07-25 Thread Donald Harbison

Scott,

Welcome!

There's always a need for great documentation. Check out our Community wiki
here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted  You
will see the link to the Documentation wiki
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation 

Feel free to ask any questions you have. We have volunteers in many
timezones.

/don

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Scott Robert  wrote:

> I am Robert Scott
> I was an IT Project manager for the US Department of Justice and now
> retired.
>
> I enjoy writing technical documentation and would like to volunteer for
> this task.

Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-25 Thread RA Stehmann

On 25.07.2013 12:24, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

>> Please NO trademark war against Linux distributions.
> 
> nobody wants a trademark war, we simply want that it is taken careful
> and don't underestimate the power of our brand.
> 
> I really would like to collaborate with the distros and also with
> volunteers of LibreOffice.
> 
> The question is how wec an collaborate with LO best, the current
> approach how they take stuff from AOO is damaging open source in
> general. They can take it but the communication how they do it is key
> here. And to be honest I have no respect for this but I also believe
> that this is only driven by a smaller group of people and not the
> broad LO community.

That isn't a problem caused by the GNU/Linux-distributionsor their
maintainers. It's caused by some LO-developers.
> 
> I hope they will see the benefit of closer collaboration in the future.
>
That would be the best - especially for the users of a Free office-suite.
> 
> Linux distros will hopefully be more open if we can find maintainers
> who are interested to help and improve our building and packaging
> process. This is a minimal requirements to find the way back into the
> distros. Maybe not all but the ones that are open and believe in open
> source.
>
We have to find out the needs and necessities of the distros. And we
need people who are willing and able to package AOO in the distros' way.
That's not easy.
>>
>> As I told some weeks ago we need volunteers to maintain Apache 
>> OpenOffice in each GNU/Linux Distributions.
> 
> agree that is key for all further steps to fnd the way back in any
> distro. We need people who are interested to help here in this area
> 
There a not a lot of people in the world who are able and willing to do
that. AOO (and LibrOffice also) is really a beast of code.

Regards
Michael



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For the record, it seems that the fonts usually delivered by default (in 
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Ubuntu.

I've filed a bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122835

We may have comments by users when bullet styles are wrecked.

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New record download day for AOO

Yesterday we saw 205,202 downloads of AOO.  This breaks our previous
one-day record of 197,479 which was set August 30th, 2012.

-Rob

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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

2013-07-25 Thread Kazunari Hirano

One more from Japan.
http://news.nifty.com/cs/item/detail/nifbiz-20130725-bm-48058/1.htm

Thanks,
khirano


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Kazunari Hirano  wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> Thanks.
>
> Some Japanese coverage:
> http://japan.internet.com/webtech/20130724/4.html
> http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2013/07/25/017/
> http://bizmash.jp/articles/48058.html
> http://internet.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130724_608954.html
>
> Regards,
> khirano
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> Important Japanese website:
>>
>> http://www.forest.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130724_608941.html
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> >
>> http://www.datamation.com/applications/apache-releases-open-source-openoffice-4.html
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Ricardo Berlasso 
>> wrote:
>> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQxODQ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/7/23 Rob Weir 
>> >>
>> >>> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-is-here/
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.zdnet.com/openoffice-4-0-arrives-718456/
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> http://office.about.com/b/2013/07/23/the-new-openoffice-available-today-new-side-bar-and-more.htm
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> http://amanz.my/2013/07/openoffice-4-0-dilancarkan-untuk-pengguna-windows-mac-dan-linux/
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/07/23/1643204/apache-openoffice-40-released-with-major-new-features
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Rob Weir 
>> wrote:
>> >>> >> This is a nice one:
>> >>> >> http://betanews.com/2013/07/23/apache-releases-openoffice-4/
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> -Rob
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Rob Weir 
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://www.chip.de/news/OpenOffice-4.0-Gross-Update-mit-neuen-Funktionen_63245985.html
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> (They have a nice gallery of screen shots as well:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://www.chip.de/bildergalerie/Alle-Neuheiten-von-Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-Galerie_63246075.html
>> >>> )
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weir 
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> http://lwn.net/Articles/560203/  (All of three sentences.  I
>> thought
>> >>> >>>> they got paid by the word?)
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-z-nowym-interfejsem,Aktualnosc,42866.html
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Rob Weir 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> So far, so good.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>
>> http://tweakers.net/meuktracker/31036/apache-openoffice-400.html
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> www.ghacks.net/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-released-find-out-what-is-new
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Ricardo Berlasso <
>> >>> rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>> 2013/7/23 Rob Weir 
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> http://www.itmagazine.ch/Artikel/53584/Openoffice_4.0_ist_da.html
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> http://denis-sylvain.be/2013/07/apache-openoffice-4-0-est-sorti/
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rob Weir > >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>
>> http://blog.open-office.es/index.php/inicio/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-0-ya-disponible-para-su-descarga
>> >&

OT: Coverage of 4.0 Release

Something I am finding of great interest in the coverage of the AOO 4.0 release 
is how reliant the commentators are on the various release documents.  One 
wonders if any of them actually use the programs they comment upon.

-- 
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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

Thanks.   And the wonderful thing is that AOO 4.0 is now getting
coverage in all of the LO 4.1 articles as well ;-)

This is the advantage of writing innovative code, not just copying it.

-Rob

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Kazunari Hirano  wrote:
> One more from Japan.
> http://news.nifty.com/cs/item/detail/nifbiz-20130725-bm-48058/1.htm
>
> Thanks,
> khirano
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Kazunari Hirano  wrote:
>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Some Japanese coverage:
>> http://japan.internet.com/webtech/20130724/4.html
>> http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2013/07/25/017/
>> http://bizmash.jp/articles/48058.html
>> http://internet.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130724_608954.html
>>
>> Regards,
>> khirano
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>
>>> Important Japanese website:
>>>
>>> http://www.forest.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130724_608941.html
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>> >
>>> http://www.datamation.com/applications/apache-releases-open-source-openoffice-4.html
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Ricardo Berlasso 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQxODQ
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2013/7/23 Rob Weir 
>>> >>
>>> >>> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-is-here/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.zdnet.com/openoffice-4-0-arrives-718456/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> http://office.about.com/b/2013/07/23/the-new-openoffice-available-today-new-side-bar-and-more.htm
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> http://amanz.my/2013/07/openoffice-4-0-dilancarkan-untuk-pengguna-windows-mac-dan-linux/
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/07/23/1643204/apache-openoffice-40-released-with-major-new-features
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Rob Weir 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >> This is a nice one:
>>> >>> >> http://betanews.com/2013/07/23/apache-releases-openoffice-4/
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> -Rob
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Rob Weir 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.chip.de/news/OpenOffice-4.0-Gross-Update-mit-neuen-Funktionen_63245985.html
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> (They have a nice gallery of screen shots as well:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.chip.de/bildergalerie/Alle-Neuheiten-von-Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-Galerie_63246075.html
>>> >>> )
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weir 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>> http://lwn.net/Articles/560203/  (All of three sentences.  I
>>> thought
>>> >>> >>>> they got paid by the word?)
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Apache-OpenOffice-4.0-z-nowym-interfejsem,Aktualnosc,42866.html
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Rob Weir 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>>> So far, so good.
>>> >>> >>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>
>>> http://tweakers.net/meuktracker/31036/apache-openoffice-400.html
>>> >>> >>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>
>>> >>>
>>> www.ghacks.net/2013/07/23/apache-openoffice-4-released-find-out-what-is-new
>>> >>> >>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Ricardo Berlasso <
>>> >>> rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>>>> 2013/7/23 Rob Weir 
>>> >>> >>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>
>>> http://www.itmagazine.ch/Artikel/53584/Openoffice_4.0_ist_da.html
>&

Re: OT: Coverage of 4.0 Release

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> Something I am finding of great interest in the coverage of the AOO 4.0 
> release is how reliant the commentators are on the various release documents. 
>  One wonders if any of them actually use the programs they comment upon.
>

Many of them are freelancers, paid by the word, not by the hour.
Using prepared materials, whether a press release or release notes,
makes their work easier and faster.  So the first wave of articles
will be summaries or even copy&paste of our materials, with a little
bit of added commentary and analysis.   This is expected.

Anyone who is serious about doing a real review of the product, it
will take them a few more days.  We should see that eventually.  But
right now it is about being first, reporting the news while it is
still new.  Deeper analysis will come later.

-Rob

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Re: New record download day for AOO

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> Yesterday we saw 205,202 downloads of AOO.  This breaks our previous
> one-day record of 197,479 which was set August 30th, 2012.
>
> -Rob
>

AMAZING!


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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

2013-07-25 Thread Pavel Janík

Rob,

On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> This is the advantage of writing innovative code, not just copying it.

can you please stop writing such stupid sentences? Notice that I do not talk at 
all about the particular license issue.

A few people in other project do the same stuff as you do and maybe you can 
fight with them in some mud, but why mud-spraying all the people in this 
mailing list?
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New "other.html" for all possible download links

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> +100.
>
> Your great work continues!
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
> > Am 07/25/2013 12:48 AM, schrieb Balaji Arun:
> >> Hi Marcus
> >>
> >> For the title of the page "Apache OpenOffice - Download all builds", I
> think
> >> there can be better way to put it. It is like asking user to download
> every
> >> build. Please consider "Apache OpenOffice Downloads - All Builds" or any
> >> other apt title.
> >
> > Good idea. To align it with the "index.html" I've adjusted the text for
> webpage title and H1 tag.
> >
> >> The UI looks simple and neat.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:19 PM
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: [PROPOSAL] New "other.html" for all possible download links
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I've created a new webpage to offer all possible download links for a
> >> release version:
> >>
> >> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_tables.html
>

This looks super!  A great job.



> >>
> >> Advantages:
> >> - created automatically, depending on the respective available
> >>languages for the release version, controlled via the "globalvars.js"
> >>file
> >> -->  no manual changes in the "other.html" for every new release
> >>
> >> - contains links to all checksum files
> >> -->  no separate webpage just for checksum files necessary
> >>
> >> - all possible downloads for a respective language and OS in a single
> >>place
> >>
> >> Please test and tell me your feedback.
> >>
> >> @Andrea:
> >> I've already considered your smaller font size wish for the checksum
> links.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Marcus
> >>
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> >
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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Pavel Janík  wrote:
> Rob,
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> This is the advantage of writing innovative code, not just copying it.
>
> can you please stop writing such stupid sentences? Notice that I do not talk 
> at all about the particular license issue.
>

I'm not talking about license issues either.  I'm just saying that if
you are the originator of a feature then you get press coverage twice:
 the 1st time when you initially release it and then a 2nd time when
another project copies it.  We're seeing that now.

Personally, I think it is an advantage to get such press coverage.
Maybe you disagree.  But since this is a thread about press coverage,
such observations are entire on topic.

Regards,

-Rob

> A few people in other project do the same stuff as you do and maybe you can 
> fight with them in some mud, but why mud-spraying all the people in this 
> mailing list?
> --
> Pavel Janík
>
>
>
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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Pavel Janík  wrote:
>> Rob,
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> This is the advantage of writing innovative code, not just copying it.
>>
>> can you please stop writing such stupid sentences? Notice that I do not talk 
>> at all about the particular license issue.
>>
>
> I'm not talking about license issues either.  I'm just saying that if
> you are the originator of a feature then you get press coverage twice:
>  the 1st time when you initially release it and then a 2nd time when
> another project copies it.  We're seeing that now.
>

A specific example, Ars Technica, on the LO 4.1 release:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/libreoffice-4-1-is-released-borrows-new-sidebar-from-openoffice/

Headline:  "LibreOffice 4.1 is released, borrows new sidebar from
OpenOffice /  3,000 bugs fixed in latest LibreOffice, many by Apache
developers. "

Regards,

-Rob

> Personally, I think it is an advantage to get such press coverage.
> Maybe you disagree.  But since this is a thread about press coverage,
> such observations are entire on topic.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>> A few people in other project do the same stuff as you do and maybe you can 
>> fight with them in some mud, but why mud-spraying all the people in this 
>> mailing list?
>> --
>> Pavel Janík
>>
>>
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[Website]

2013-07-25 Thread Brianna Castaldo

Hello Development team,
I had OpenOffice 3. something and I just downloaded the 4.0.0. Whenever I
would open documents it would still open the 3 one. I got rid of the 3
thinking this would help but now my documents open in the Mac program Pages
which I don't want it to.  Can you help me with having the newly downloaded
OpenOffice to be the main one?
Thank you,
Brianna

Re: [Website]

2013-07-25 Thread Xuacu

Hi Brianna

Have you seen the Release Notes?

Under Known issues there is a warning about Gatekeeper service in
MacOS Mountain Lion:
http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/4.0.0.html#AOO4.0ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues

I hope this may help you, I'm not a MacOS user

Regards
--
Xuacu

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Brianna Castaldo
 wrote:
> Hello Development team,
> I had OpenOffice 3. something and I just downloaded the 4.0.0. Whenever I
> would open documents it would still open the 3 one. I got rid of the 3
> thinking this would help but now my documents open in the Mac program Pages
> which I don't want it to.  Can you help me with having the newly downloaded
> OpenOffice to be the main one?
> Thank you,
> Brianna

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RE: OpenOffice v.4.0.0 Lorem Ipsum extension glitch

2013-07-25 Thread Peyton Farquhar

Hi,

I'm attempting to use the Magenta Lorem Ipsum extension in OO v.4.0.0 on
Win XP SP, however, it does not work. The extension is clearly visible in
extension manager, and, I have removed/reinstalled/rebooted several times,
but the taskbar shortcut that enables generation of the dummy text that was
present in my previous version of OpenOffice 3.x is not in v.4.0.0. This
seems like a glitch that hasn't even been logged yet considering v.4.0.0 is
brand new. Also, I can't find any other references to the problem either
here or elsewhere.

Does anyone know where I can report the problem/have a resolution? I found
the creator's G+, but there is no way to contact him from either that page
or his website. I did email him directly at the email provided in the
extension at lodahl AT openoffice.org, but my msg was bounced back
evidently because the domain is no longer valid according to the rejection
msg.  Hence the reason why I am directing this msg here.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
PF

Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 24/07/2013 Juergen Schmidt wrote:

they can do whatever they want but we should stop them to use our brand


Before any further discussion of this, we should have real examples 
where running the equivalent of "yum install openoffice[.org]" or 
"apt-get install openoffice[.org]" downloads something else.


Some distributions used "transitional" packages, but they have likely 
been removed in recent releases in most cases. Let's get concrete 
examples from recent distribution releases before continuing.


(and yes, I also think that if such cases still exist it will be 
possible to solve them in a friendly way; and the "soffice" alias is a 
separate problem)


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [DISCUSS] added security to avoid changes in artifacts.

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
> > Am 07/24/2013 07:07 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM, janI  wrote:
> >>> On 24 July 2013 18:34, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >>>
>  On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM, janI  wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I have followed the discussions in here, and have seen a number of
> not
> > wanted changed in our important artifacts happen.
> >
> > I think it is important, that items like our logos, release notes
> etc.
> > cannot be changed by accident. I believe it happens by accident and
> that
> > could avoided with a simple measure.
> >
> 
>  It might be useful to think of this in terms of Review-Then-Commit
>  (RTC) versus Commit-Then-Review (CTR) rules.  Once we clarify these
>  and when they apply, then we can discuss whether additional
>  technological means are needed to enforce this.
> 
>  For the wiki the general rules is CTR for all users with an account.
>  No additional karma is needed.
> 
>  The for resources in Subversion the general rule is CTR for all
>  commiters.  Additionally, the public can submit patches, to the list,
>  attached to BZ issues, or using the CMS anonymous submission tool.
>  This then is effectively RTC since a committer must first reviews the
>  patch.
> 
>  Those are the default postures, but there are exceptions.  For
>  example, as we approach a Release Candidate we switch into RTC for the
>  trunk code.  We only make changes after a bug has been proposed and
>  approved as a "release blocker" on the dev list.
> 
>  So we could simply adopt a RTC for certain resources at certain times.
>   For example, Release Notes once a release occurs, are RTC.  The
>  project logos, once approved and published, are RTC.   If we agree to
>  such things there are lightweight ways of reminding ourselves.  For
>  example, we could have a README file in directories that are RTC that
>  explain this.  That should be enough for conscientious,
>  well-intentioned volunteers,
> 
> 
> > I am normally strong against limitations, but I would like to suggest
>  that
> > these items are moved to one (or more) subdirs, where the commit
> right is
> > restricted e.x. to PMC members or even less. Doing so will not
> prohibit
> > anybody from making their changes but simply avoid that the changes
> are
> > product wide.
> >
> 
>  Personally I think this is a RTC versus CTR question.  This
>  distinction is a tool that we don't invoke as often as we could.
>  Maybe that would be sufficient, at least in SVN.
> 
>  Also, I think even a PMC member should be following CTR rules when it
>  is in effect.  I don't think of a PMC member as a higher class of
>  committer in terms of what they have access to.
> 
> >>>
> >>> I think you misunderstood me.  I agree with the RTC/CTR discussion, but
> >>> that does not prevent the accidential commit, I think it has happened
> to
> >>> most of us, that we commit our changes, and we overlook that another
> file
> >>> is also committed.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I disagree that we have a a problem with accidental overwrites in SVN
> >> in cases where it is clear that RTC is in effect.  I think the problem
> >> is that it is not clear when CTR is in effect.
> >
> > I don't think that it will help to prevent every error of this kind.
> >
> >> Also, I don't see how your solution helps with truly accidental
> >> commits.  Surely PMC members make errors as well?
> >
> > Of course, as they are humans, too. ;-)
> >
> > But you don't become a PMC member by default. You need to show some
> things that you have understand how the page is turning. And then I doubt
> that such error would happen.
> >
> > So, I also think that we should do more than just turn the CTR into RTC
> and expect that no mistakes will happen after that.
> >
> > My 2 ct.
>
> I think that there are a few things to think about.
>
> We can all understand when RTC and CTR are in effect. These are different
> in different systems.
>

In the two years since OpenOffice has been with Apache, in nearly every
case we have always had discussion on ANY change/commit in anything we
consider "source" that is not applied to a bug.  So this excludes most of
the material on the web site with the exception of the new logo svgs.   At
least that is my impression.

This is not really clear in our Orientation modules. And, I think in most
people's minds, knowing when to go from CTR to RTC is not particularly
clear either. There are some implicit assumptions -- like don't mess with
SNAPSHOT builds -- but I think it would be better if we stated this
explicitly.

I also suggest that any artifact we feel should be considered "source" --
like the new logo svg files -- be put, if not in /trunk, in an SVN area
that

New Features and Enhancements video

2013-07-25 Thread Drew Jensen

Howdy,

Well, I decided that I could go ahead and let DARPA-NET have another bite
at me today, rather then waiting for next week, so took a little walk into
town.

That and I wanted to cover the basic template first.

Here is an example of what I mean.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUWt5cnUxQ3JNbnM/edit?usp=sharing

There is an opening 8 seconds with the logo on a non-white background:
1 - is that acceptable
2 - is the ASF tag line acceptable

Then there is what would be the body of the piece - a full white
background, as this logo really doesn't work to well otherwise it seems to
me.
1 - I assume the logo is not an issue here, but thought I'd double check.
2 - I changed the ASF tagline to blue, as you can see
2a - I wonder if I may drop that (the ASF tagline) on the body frames,
leaving it on the opening and then bringing it back for the credits at the
end, as I will include sub-titles with this piece (in English) and that
space would be the place for these to display of course.

Anyway, that is enough for now and to get things started.

Ok - this time it will be a few days before I will be able to get back to
folks..

Thanks

//drew

Re: Sourceforge video saying 3.4.1

2013-07-25 Thread Roberto Galoppini

2013/7/24 Marcus (OOo) 

> Am 07/24/2013 01:08 AM, schrieb Shari Smith:
>
>  Just though someone might want to either pull the video or update it :)
>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**?source=dlp
>>
>
> @Roberto:
> What do you think, can you update the video? Drew has posted here a
> version and link to his new brilliant artwork for AOO 4.0.0:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/**201307.mbox/%*
> *3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2wid**JRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%**
> 40mail.gmail.com%3E
>

Here we go: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/

Marcus what about updating the feature section?

Roberto


>  WTG&  Thanks for this wonderful new version!
>> Shari
>>
>
> @Shari:
> Thank you very much. We wish you much fun and success with the new release.
>
> Marcus
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] added security to avoid changes in artifacts.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>> > Am 07/24/2013 07:07 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM, janI  wrote:
>> >>> On 24 July 2013 18:34, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> >>>
>>  On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM, janI  wrote:
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > I have followed the discussions in here, and have seen a number of
>> not
>> > wanted changed in our important artifacts happen.
>> >
>> > I think it is important, that items like our logos, release notes
>> etc.
>> > cannot be changed by accident. I believe it happens by accident and
>> that
>> > could avoided with a simple measure.
>> >
>> 
>>  It might be useful to think of this in terms of Review-Then-Commit
>>  (RTC) versus Commit-Then-Review (CTR) rules.  Once we clarify these
>>  and when they apply, then we can discuss whether additional
>>  technological means are needed to enforce this.
>> 
>>  For the wiki the general rules is CTR for all users with an account.
>>  No additional karma is needed.
>> 
>>  The for resources in Subversion the general rule is CTR for all
>>  commiters.  Additionally, the public can submit patches, to the list,
>>  attached to BZ issues, or using the CMS anonymous submission tool.
>>  This then is effectively RTC since a committer must first reviews the
>>  patch.
>> 
>>  Those are the default postures, but there are exceptions.  For
>>  example, as we approach a Release Candidate we switch into RTC for the
>>  trunk code.  We only make changes after a bug has been proposed and
>>  approved as a "release blocker" on the dev list.
>> 
>>  So we could simply adopt a RTC for certain resources at certain times.
>>   For example, Release Notes once a release occurs, are RTC.  The
>>  project logos, once approved and published, are RTC.   If we agree to
>>  such things there are lightweight ways of reminding ourselves.  For
>>  example, we could have a README file in directories that are RTC that
>>  explain this.  That should be enough for conscientious,
>>  well-intentioned volunteers,
>> 
>> 
>> > I am normally strong against limitations, but I would like to suggest
>>  that
>> > these items are moved to one (or more) subdirs, where the commit
>> right is
>> > restricted e.x. to PMC members or even less. Doing so will not
>> prohibit
>> > anybody from making their changes but simply avoid that the changes
>> are
>> > product wide.
>> >
>> 
>>  Personally I think this is a RTC versus CTR question.  This
>>  distinction is a tool that we don't invoke as often as we could.
>>  Maybe that would be sufficient, at least in SVN.
>> 
>>  Also, I think even a PMC member should be following CTR rules when it
>>  is in effect.  I don't think of a PMC member as a higher class of
>>  committer in terms of what they have access to.
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>> I think you misunderstood me.  I agree with the RTC/CTR discussion, but
>> >>> that does not prevent the accidential commit, I think it has happened
>> to
>> >>> most of us, that we commit our changes, and we overlook that another
>> file
>> >>> is also committed.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I disagree that we have a a problem with accidental overwrites in SVN
>> >> in cases where it is clear that RTC is in effect.  I think the problem
>> >> is that it is not clear when CTR is in effect.
>> >
>> > I don't think that it will help to prevent every error of this kind.
>> >
>> >> Also, I don't see how your solution helps with truly accidental
>> >> commits.  Surely PMC members make errors as well?
>> >
>> > Of course, as they are humans, too. ;-)
>> >
>> > But you don't become a PMC member by default. You need to show some
>> things that you have understand how the page is turning. And then I doubt
>> that such error would happen.
>> >
>> > So, I also think that we should do more than just turn the CTR into RTC
>> and expect that no mistakes will happen after that.
>> >
>> > My 2 ct.
>>
>> I think that there are a few things to think about.
>>
>> We can all understand when RTC and CTR are in effect. These are different
>> in different systems.
>>
>
> In the two years since OpenOffice has been with Apache, in nearly every
> case we have always had discussion on ANY change/commit in anything we
> consider "source" that is not applied to a bug.  So this excludes most of
> the material on the web site with the exception of the new logo svgs.   At
> least that is my impression.
>
> This is not really clear in our Orientation modules. And, I think in most
> people's minds, knowing when to go from CTR to RTC is not particularly
> clear either. There are some implicit assumptions -- like don't mess with
> SNAPSHOT builds -- but I think it would be better if we

Re: [Website]

2013-07-25 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2013-07-25 10:44 AM Brianna Castaldo wrote concerning "[Website]":

Hello Development team,
I had OpenOffice 3. something and I just downloaded the 4.0.0. Whenever I
would open documents it would still open the 3 one. I got rid of the 3
thinking this would help but now my documents open in the Mac program Pages
which I don't want it to. Can you help me with having the newly downloaded
OpenOffice to be the main one?
Thank you,
Brianna

You need to reset the file associations.
Right click (ctrl/click) on the document you wish to open.
Click on "Get Info"
In the dialogue window that opens, under "Open with:" select from the drop down menu
"OpenOffice.app".

Then click on the button "Change All..."

You will need to do this for all file types you wish to open with Apache
OpenOffice.
I assume you are trying to open .doc files since you can open them with Pages. If they are
files you created with OpenOffice, you should safe in the native .odt format.

As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not
reply to me personally but just to the list at - replies to my
personal email address will be ignored.

A better address for support questions is us...@openoffice.apache.org

Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to your query.To
subscribe Apache OpenOffice mailing lists go to

http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

For user support you can also use The OpenOffice.org Community Forum
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/

Larry I. Gusaas
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Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
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Re: How to get a list of commits between 2 revisions

2013-07-25 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi Herbert,

Herbert Duerr schrieb:

Hi Regina,

On 25.07.2013 13:32, Regina Henschel wrote:

I'm looking at bug https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122822
I have narrowed it down to
OK in r1384746
broken in r1388589

That was in Sept.2012, when we were in incubator.
I cannot get that range in https://fisheye6.atlassian.com

How can I get a list of commits, that happen between r1384746 and r1388589?


If you are using svn directly do
 svn log -r 1388589:1384746
in your repository.

Or if were using git-svn you could use the wonderful gitk tool or its
relatives like qgit.


It is not clear to me, what to do. I have not got a local repository, 
which has that range. Therefore I look for a way to get that information 
from http://svn.apache.org/


I can jump to a special revision. Then I can move up and down, but that 
contains the commits of all projects, not only those from OpenOffice. 
The range between r1384746 and r1388589 has over 3000 commits, so not 
doable.


I use git svn.

Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

2013-07-25 Thread Michal Hriň

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:16:16 +0200 Marcus (OOo)   
napísal:



Am 07/25/2013 12:10 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/24/2013 10:50 PM, schrieb Michal Hri:

Browser variables Values
navigator.appCodeName Mozilla
navigator.appName Microsoft Internet Explorer
navigator.appVersion 5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1;
WOW64; Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729;
.NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C)
navigator.platform Win32
navigator.oscpu undefined
navigator.product undefined
navigator.productSub undefined
navigator.vendor undefined
navigator.vendorSub undefined
navigator.language undefined
navigator.browserLanguage cs-CZ
navigator.userLanguage sk-SK
navigator.systemLanguage sk-SK
navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT
6.1; WOW64; Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR
3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C)


"Center" is the problem:

First it will be tested if "windows" or win" is contained in
"navigator.platform". If yes, the "navigator.userAgent" will be checked
if "phone" or "moble" or "ce" is included.

(all converted into lower case)

And "ce" is included in "center". ;-)

I've deleted the query for "ce". Please test if this solves the problem.


I don't know if this is already published when you test, so please use  
this URL:


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/

Marcus




OK, it is fine for now, if I'll find some bugs I'll contact you. :)
Thanks!

Regards,
- Michal Hriň




JavaScript functions/variables Values
Language name Slovenský jazyk (slovenčina)
Language ISO code sk
Language array data sk,Slovak,Slovenský jazyk
(slovenčina),y,http://www.openoffice.org/sk/
Platform name Windows mobile device
Mirror platform name
File name undefined
File extension
Checksum file (here for MD5) undefined
hasMirrorLink() true
getLink() http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html



From: Marcus (OOo)
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script


Am 07/24/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".


Please post the output of the analysis webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Then I will have a look.

Thanks in advance.

Marcus


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Re: How to get a list of commits between 2 revisions

2013-07-25 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi,

I found it. You have to click on the revision number in the row of the 
directory you are interested in. Then you get a list of commits 
backwards from the number you set in "Directoy revision" or "Sticky 
Revision".


Kind regards
Regina

Regina Henschel schrieb:

Hi Herbert,

Herbert Duerr schrieb:

Hi Regina,

On 25.07.2013 13:32, Regina Henschel wrote:

I'm looking at bug https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122822
I have narrowed it down to
OK in r1384746
broken in r1388589

That was in Sept.2012, when we were in incubator.
I cannot get that range in https://fisheye6.atlassian.com

How can I get a list of commits, that happen between r1384746 and
r1388589?


If you are using svn directly do
 svn log -r 1388589:1384746
in your repository.

Or if were using git-svn you could use the wonderful gitk tool or its
relatives like qgit.


It is not clear to me, what to do. I have not got a local repository,
which has that range. Therefore I look for a way to get that information
from http://svn.apache.org/

I can jump to a special revision. Then I can move up and down, but that
contains the commits of all projects, not only those from OpenOffice.
The range between r1384746 and r1388589 has over 3000 commits, so not
doable.

I use git svn.

Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

2013-07-25 Thread Michal Hriň

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:11:53 +0200 Marcus (OOo)   
napísal:



Am 07/24/2013 11:17 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/24/2013 11:02 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:50:30 +0200 Michal Hri 
napísal:

And Marcus, when you will lookin' at it , please,
repair "Language name " to only "slovenčina" ..
Thanks.


You mean on the "other.html"?


OK, forget it. Found it. ;-)

But I remember our discussion from the past OOo project about a) correct  
writing of sk + sl and b) how to differenciate between both writings as  
they are very similar in their native languages. So, you suggested the  
additional text to make it clear.


Do you want this to be changed now?



I remember this discussion (maybe I was misunderstood) but let this  
question

opened ..

I would like to contact Slovak linguistic organization - they explain it  
definitely.


- MH



Marcus





From: Marcus (OOo) 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

Am 07/24/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".


Please post the output of the analysis webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Then I will have a look.

Thanks in advance.

Marcus


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Re: [DISCUSS] added security to avoid changes in artifacts.


Am 07/25/2013 08:47 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:



On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 07/24/2013 07:07 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM, janI   wrote:

On 24 July 2013 18:34, Rob Weir   wrote:


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM, janI   wrote:

Hi.

I have followed the discussions in here, and have seen a number of

not

wanted changed in our important artifacts happen.

I think it is important, that items like our logos, release notes

etc.

cannot be changed by accident. I believe it happens by accident and

that

could avoided with a simple measure.



It might be useful to think of this in terms of Review-Then-Commit
(RTC) versus Commit-Then-Review (CTR) rules.  Once we clarify these
and when they apply, then we can discuss whether additional
technological means are needed to enforce this.

For the wiki the general rules is CTR for all users with an account.
No additional karma is needed.

The for resources in Subversion the general rule is CTR for all
commiters.  Additionally, the public can submit patches, to the list,
attached to BZ issues, or using the CMS anonymous submission tool.
This then is effectively RTC since a committer must first reviews the
patch.

Those are the default postures, but there are exceptions.  For
example, as we approach a Release Candidate we switch into RTC for the
trunk code.  We only make changes after a bug has been proposed and
approved as a "release blocker" on the dev list.

So we could simply adopt a RTC for certain resources at certain times.
  For example, Release Notes once a release occurs, are RTC.  The
project logos, once approved and published, are RTC.   If we agree to
such things there are lightweight ways of reminding ourselves.  For
example, we could have a README file in directories that are RTC that
explain this.  That should be enough for conscientious,
well-intentioned volunteers,



I am normally strong against limitations, but I would like to suggest

that

these items are moved to one (or more) subdirs, where the commit

right is

restricted e.x. to PMC members or even less. Doing so will not

prohibit

anybody from making their changes but simply avoid that the changes

are

product wide.



Personally I think this is a RTC versus CTR question.  This
distinction is a tool that we don't invoke as often as we could.
Maybe that would be sufficient, at least in SVN.

Also, I think even a PMC member should be following CTR rules when it
is in effect.  I don't think of a PMC member as a higher class of
committer in terms of what they have access to.



I think you misunderstood me.  I agree with the RTC/CTR discussion, but
that does not prevent the accidential commit, I think it has happened

to

most of us, that we commit our changes, and we overlook that another

file

is also committed.



I disagree that we have a a problem with accidental overwrites in SVN
in cases where it is clear that RTC is in effect.  I think the problem
is that it is not clear when CTR is in effect.


I don't think that it will help to prevent every error of this kind.


Also, I don't see how your solution helps with truly accidental
commits.  Surely PMC members make errors as well?


Of course, as they are humans, too. ;-)

But you don't become a PMC member by default. You need to show some

things that you have understand how the page is turning. And then I doubt
that such error would happen.


So, I also think that we should do more than just turn the CTR into RTC

and expect that no mistakes will happen after that.


My 2 ct.


I think that there are a few things to think about.

We can all understand when RTC and CTR are in effect. These are different
in different systems.



In the two years since OpenOffice has been with Apache, in nearly every
case we have always had discussion on ANY change/commit in anything we
consider "source" that is not applied to a bug.  So this excludes most of
the material on the web site with the exception of the new logo svgs.   At
least that is my impression.

This is not really clear in our Orientation modules. And, I think in most
people's minds, knowing when to go from CTR to RTC is not particularly
clear either. There are some implicit assumptions -- like don't mess with
SNAPSHOT builds -- but I think it would be better if we stated this
explicitly.

I also suggest that any artifact we feel should be considered "source" --
like the new logo svg files -- be put, if not in /trunk, in an SVN area
that has some distinguishing name so that it is clear to committers this is
really a RTC area.



I like that idea.  Something like /branding, a peer of /trunk and
/ooo-site.  That can hold the branding related source.  But we can
then also have specific bitmap versions checked into the website, for
direct use.  But we keep the source versions separate.


+1, one for all.

Marcus




We are talking about

Re: New record download day for AOO


Am 07/25/2013 03:07 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

Yesterday we saw 205,202 downloads of AOO.  This breaks our previous
one-day record of 197,479 which was set August 30th, 2012.


Great, thanks for leting us know.

Marcus


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Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script


Am 07/25/2013 10:06 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:11:53 +0200 Marcus (OOo) 
napísal:


Am 07/24/2013 11:17 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/24/2013 11:02 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Wed, 24 Jul 2013 22:50:30 +0200 Michal Hri 
napísal:

And Marcus, when you will lookin' at it , please,
repair "Language name " to only "slovenčina" ..
Thanks.


You mean on the "other.html"?


OK, forget it. Found it. ;-)

But I remember our discussion from the past OOo project about a)
correct writing of sk + sl and b) how to differenciate between both
writings as they are very similar in their native languages. So, you
suggested the additional text to make it clear.

Do you want this to be changed now?



I remember this discussion (maybe I was misunderstood) but let this
question
opened ..

I would like to contact Slovak linguistic organization - they explain it
definitely.


OK, I'll wait.


- MH



Marcus





From: Marcus (OOo) 
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script

Am 07/24/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Internet Explorer 10 and Windows 7 64bit is recognized by download
script as "Windows mobile device".


Please post the output of the analysis webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

Then I will have a look.

Thanks in advance.

Marcus


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Re: [WEBSITE][BUG] Download script


Am 07/25/2013 10:02 PM, schrieb Michal Hriň:

Dňa Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:16:16 +0200 Marcus (OOo) 
napísal:


Am 07/25/2013 12:10 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/24/2013 10:50 PM, schrieb Michal Hri:

Browser variables Values
navigator.appCodeName Mozilla
navigator.appName Microsoft Internet Explorer
navigator.appVersion 5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1;
WOW64; Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729;
.NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C)
navigator.platform Win32
navigator.oscpu undefined
navigator.product undefined
navigator.productSub undefined
navigator.vendor undefined
navigator.vendorSub undefined
navigator.language undefined
navigator.browserLanguage cs-CZ
navigator.userLanguage sk-SK
navigator.systemLanguage sk-SK
navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT
6.1; WOW64; Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR
3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C)


"Center" is the problem:

First it will be tested if "windows" or win" is contained in
"navigator.platform". If yes, the "navigator.userAgent" will be checked
if "phone" or "moble" or "ce" is included.

(all converted into lower case)

And "ce" is included in "center". ;-)

I've deleted the query for "ce". Please test if this solves the problem.


I don't know if this is already published when you test, so please use
this URL:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/

Marcus




OK, it is fine for now, if I'll find some bugs I'll contact you. :)
Thanks!


Sure, just tell me what is not working. I'm confident the most can be fixed.

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Extensions need approval?


Related to this post: 
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=63081#p279610

It seems that a new version of the page related to the French dictionary needs 
to be approved. Does it take a long time? (anti-spam measure?) Current 
workaround is to go to the LibO site. The author took the time to make an AOO 
page for his extension, it deserves a green light ASAP.

Thanks
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Re: Extensions need approval?

2013-07-25 Thread Roberto Galoppini

2013/7/25 Hagar Delest 

> Related to this post: http://forum.openoffice.org/**
> en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=**63081#p279610
>
> It seems that a new version of the page related to the French dictionary
> needs to be approved. Does it take a long time? (anti-spam measure?)


Correct, it happens only if the anti-spam is triggered for some reason
(e.g. links).



> Current workaround is to go to the LibO site. The author took the time to
> make an AOO page for his extension, it deserves a green light ASAP.
>

Done.

Roberto


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> Hagar
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[Personal][Discuss][UX] Legacy

2013-07-25 Thread Michal Hriň


Hi,

today I remembered a Ribbon like UI with name _Project Renaissance_.
(just type to search engine "openoffice renaissance")
Do you remember it too ? What is whit it ?
I was never implemented ?

I read in our forums that may be good to implement _tabs_ from Symphony
to AOO.

Ideas ? :)

Regards,
Michal Hriň

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Re: Extensions need approval?


Works fine indeed. Many thanks fo rthe reactivity Roberto!

Hagar

Le 25/07/2013 22:54, Roberto Galoppini a écrit :


2013/7/25 Hagar Delest 


Related to this post: http://forum.openoffice.org/**
en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=**63081#p279610

It seems that a new version of the page related to the French dictionary
needs to be approved. Does it take a long time? (anti-spam measure?)



Correct, it happens only if the anti-spam is triggered for some reason
(e.g. links).




Current workaround is to go to the LibO site. The author took the time to
make an AOO page for his extension, it deserves a green light ASAP.



Done.

Roberto




Thanks
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Re: Sourceforge video saying 3.4.1

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/7/24 Marcus (OOo) 
>
> > Am 07/24/2013 01:08 AM, schrieb Shari Smith:
> >
> >  Just though someone might want to either pull the video or update it :)
> >> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**?source=dlp<
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/?source=dlp>
> >>
> >
> > @Roberto:
> > What do you think, can you update the video? Drew has posted here a
> > version and link to his new brilliant artwork for AOO 4.0.0:
> >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.
> **org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/**201307.mbox/%*
> > *3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2wid**JRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%**
> > 40mail.gmail.com%3E<
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2widJRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >
> >
>
> Here we go: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>

good!  :)


>
> Marcus what about updating the feature section?
>
> Roberto
>
>
> >  WTG&  Thanks for this wonderful new version!
> >> Shari
> >>
> >
> > @Shari:
> > Thank you very much. We wish you much fun and success with the new
> release.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >
>



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Re: [Personal][Discuss][UX] Legacy


Ah that one!
See: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=21338
Never implemented. High emotional load so beware.
Honestly, the sidebar is the perfect feature to have a similar behavior and a 
clever use of the screen real estate.
NB: using MS Office (at work) with its ribbon for 3 years at least now and 
still finding it a PITA.

Hagar


Le 25/07/2013 23:01, Michal Hriň a écrit :


Hi,

today I remembered a Ribbon like UI with name _Project Renaissance_.
(just type to search engine "openoffice renaissance")
Do you remember it too ? What is whit it ?
I was never implemented ?

I read in our forums that may be good to implement _tabs_ from Symphony
to AOO.

Ideas ? :)

Regards,
Michal Hriň

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Re: Some NL homepages that need updating for 4.0

Am 07/25/2013 01:00 PM, schrieb Shenfeng Liu:

I tried Chinese download page http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/download/ .
But it looks I can not simply replace the global parameter VERSION with
another parameter as "4.0.0"... :(
The design of the Chinese download page is similar to en download page. So
I just wondering what makes "4.0.0" appear in en download page?

The main problem was the (now) outdated links to the *.js files (e.g.,
globalvars_improved.js --> globalvars.js). But also a bit old JS code.

I've updated it - hope you don't mind. ;-) - and now it should work as
on the main download page.

Please test for youself:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/zh-cn/download/

Marcus

2013/7/25 Xuacu

Thank you all.

Today it's too late here, I'll put my hands on it tomorrow.

Kind regards
--
Xuacu

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Dave Fisher
wrote:

On Jul 24, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:

2013/7/25 Xuacu

Hi Marcus, all

I've trying to find how I can translate that pages (and, perhaps,
create new ones) with no luck so far. I guess I need an account
"somewhere" and an access point to the CMS, but I've been unable to
find it.

Try this page: http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html

specially the part for the "bookmarklet".

http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html#using-the-apache-cms-bookmarklet-simpler-method

Regards,
Dave

Regards
Ricardo

I suppose it must have been explained 100 times, but I missed it
all... could someone explain it one more time?

Thanks in advance, and my apologies for the inconveniences.

Regards
--
Xuacu

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Marcus (OOo)
wrote:

Am 07/23/2013 01:20 PM, schrieb Xuacu:

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Rob Weir

wrote:

[...]

The problem is that these pages use
http://www.openoffice.org/download/globalvars_improved.js
which still has 3.4.1, but since it's global configuration I didn't
change
it. The current download page uses
http://www.openoffice.org/download/globalvars.js
that has the correct numbers but does not work as a
globalvars_improved.js
replacement in the IT site.

Maybe Marcus can help describe what needs to be done here. I bet
their are HTML changes needed as well as pointing to the new
javascript.
[...]

Download page for Asturian is really outdated, and mostly points to
our NL team page which is outdated too. I will now fix our NL pages,
but it would be great if, as you say, someone describes what (and
where) is needed to fix AOO download page to keep as much as possible
within AOO site.

I've created a ".../ast/download/index.html" directory + webpage.

BTW:
In the "index.html" I've set the variable NL_LANGUAGE to "ast". That

means

that only Asturian files can be downloaded.

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ast/download/index.html

Happy testing and translating. :-)

And don't forget to change the link for download on
"http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ast/index.html";

Marcus

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Where can I find the original files of the release notes?

2013-07-25 Thread Jörg Schmidt

Hello,

Who has the original files from which the screenshots for the release-notes (eg 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/c/c0/120962_MS.jpg) were made?
(I do not mean the images of the UI elements, but for example the Calc files.)

Can someone please make me available so that I can translate it to German and 
create German  screenshots?


Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: Sourceforge video saying 3.4.1


Am 07/25/2013 08:38 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/24 Marcus (OOo)


Am 07/24/2013 01:08 AM, schrieb Shari Smith:

  Just though someone might want to either pull the video or update it :)

http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**?source=dlp



@Roberto:
What do you think, can you update the video? Drew has posted here a
version and link to his new brilliant artwork for AOO 4.0.0:

http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/**201307.mbox/%*
*3CCABoexJ3VoPdd2nm1xe4TM2q2wid**JRurmEt8n6Cn-jTh_toAULA%**
40mail.gmail.com%3E



Here we go: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/


\o/

Drew will be happy.


Marcus what about updating the feature section?


You means this text?

Features
Cross platform (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X)
170+ Languages
Extensions available
Commercial support available

I would also add a line with "Templates available" as it is linked on 
the bottom of the webpage.


Also at least a new screenshot with the sidebar would be great.

Marcus


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Update 3.4.1 -> 4.0.0

2013-07-25 Thread Guenter Marxen


Hi,

with AOO 3.4.1 DE with system integration under Win 7 Pro x64 I just 
tested the upgrade "mechanisme" to 4.0.


After klicking on "... Update available" (German: "... Update 
verfügbar") at the right in the menue bar and then in the following 
dialog on "Download" ("Herunterladen"), there is shown the web-page


http://www.openoffice.org/de/?utm_source=AOO3_4_1_de&utm_medium=Client&utm_campaign=Upgrade

  (1) The prominent headline is "Announcing Apache OpenOffice 3.4"

  (2) There is no "prominent" link to "download AOO 4".

I think unexperienced users are disturbed and perhaps they don't know 
how to go on.


Only after klicking on "Download" in the "menue bar" of this page with 
"Produkte   Download   Support ..." there is the download link for AOO 4 
"Windows (EXE) and Deutsch".


But furthermore I suggest to make the link for "all platforms, 
_languages_..." more prominent for those (like me) who install several 
language packs (and do not check all text on the page).


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Re: Update 3.4.1 -> 4.0.0


Am 07/26/2013 12:38 AM, schrieb Guenter Marxen:

Hi,

with AOO 3.4.1 DE with system integration under Win 7 Pro x64 I just
tested the upgrade "mechanisme" to 4.0.

After klicking on "... Update available" (German: "... Update
verfügbar") at the right in the menue bar and then in the following
dialog on "Download" ("Herunterladen"), there is shown the web-page

http://www.openoffice.org/de/?utm_source=AOO3_4_1_de&utm_medium=Client&utm_campaign=Upgrade


(1) The prominent headline is "Announcing Apache OpenOffice 3.4"

(2) There is no "prominent" link to "download AOO 4".

I think unexperienced users are disturbed and perhaps they don't know
how to go on.

Only after klicking on "Download" in the "menue bar" of this page with
"Produkte Download Support ..." there is the download link for AOO 4
"Windows (EXE) and Deutsch".

But furthermore I suggest to make the link for "all platforms,
_languages_..." more prominent for those (like me) who install several
language packs (and do not check all text on the page).


Thanks for your report.

Unfortunately, the German download webpage is not yet updated. But it's 
planned to do this until the weekend is over (see also the mail thread 
in the users-de@ mailing list).


Marcus

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Re: Coverage of 4.0 Release

2013-07-25 Thread Peter Junge

On 7/26/2013 12:18 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Pavel Janík wrote:

Rob,

On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

This is the advantage of writing innovative code, not just copying it.

can you please stop writing such stupid sentences? Notice that I do not talk at
all about the particular license issue.

I'm not talking about license issues either. I'm just saying that if
you are the originator of a feature then you get press coverage twice:
the 1st time when you initially release it and then a 2nd time when
another project copies it. We're seeing that now.

A specific example, Ars Technica, on the LO 4.1 release:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/libreoffice-4-1-is-released-borrows-new-sidebar-from-openoffice/

Your comment there doesn't help anyone.

Peter

Headline: "LibreOffice 4.1 is released, borrows new sidebar from
OpenOffice / 3,000 bugs fixed in latest LibreOffice, many by Apache
developers. "

Regards,

-Rob

Personally, I think it is an advantage to get such press coverage.
Maybe you disagree. But since this is a thread about press coverage,
such observations are entire on topic.

Regards,

-Rob

A few people in other project do the same stuff as you do and maybe you can
fight with them in some mud, but why mud-spraying all the people in this
mailing list?
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Re: AOO in the Linux distros

2013-07-25 Thread Greg Madden

Debian Wheezy system.

root@wheezy64:~# apt-get -s install openoffice.org
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  ant ant-optional ca-certificates-java default-jre default-jre-headless
fonts-lyx fonts-opensymbol fonts-sil-gentium fonts-sil-gentium-basic
  fonts-stix icedtea-6-jre-cacao icedtea-6-jre-jamvm icedtea-netx
icedtea-netx-common java-common libapache-pom-java libatk-wrapper-java-jni
  libcmis-0.2-0 libcolamd2.7.1 libcommons-beanutils-java
libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-compress-java
libcommons-digester-java
  libcommons-logging-java libcommons-parent-java libdb-java libdb-je-java
libdb5.1-java libdb5.1-java-jni libexttextcat-data libexttextcat0
  libgraphite2-2.0.0 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgstreamer0.10-0
libhsqldb-java libhyphen0 libicu48 libicu4j-java libjaxp1.3-java
  libjline-java libjtidy-java liblucene2-java libmhash2 libmythes-1.2-0
libneon27-gnutls libpcsclite1 libraptor2-0 librasqal3 librdf0
  libregexp-java libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw
  libreoffice-emailmerge libreoffice-filter-binfilter
libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common
libreoffice-math
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy
libreoffice-writer libservlet2.5-java libvisio-0.0-0 libwpd-0.9-9
libwpg-0.2-2
  libwps-0.2-2 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java libxml-commons-external-java
libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java libxz-java libyajl2 lp-solve
  openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib python-uno
ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-extra ttf-liberation ttf-sil-gentium-basic tzdata-java
  uno-libs3 ure xfonts-mathml
Suggested packages:
  default-jdk java-compiler java-sdk ant-gcj ant-doc libbsf-java
liboro-java junit liblog4j1.2-java jython antlr libbcel-java libjdepend-java
  libgnumail-java libcommons-net-java libjsch-java javacc ant-optional-gcj
equivs libcommons-beanutils-java-doc libcommons-collections3-java-doc
  libcommons-digester-java-doc libavalon-framework-java
libcommons-logging-java-doc libexcalibur-logkit-java libdb5.1-java-gcj
  gstreamer-codec-install gnome-codec-install gstreamer0.10-tools
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base java-virtual-machine libhsqldb-java-doc
  libhsqldb-java-gcj libjaxp1.3-java-gcj libjline-java-doc
libjtidy-java-doc pcscd raptor2-utils rasqal-utils librdf-storage-postgresql
  librdf-storage-mysql librdf-storage-sqlite redland-utils
myspell-dictionary libreoffice-help-3.5 libreoffice-l10n-3.5 unixodbc
cups-bsd
  hyphen-hyphenation-patterns mythes-thesaurus libreoffice-grammarcheck
libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-kde openclipart-libreoffice pstoedit
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libreoffice-officebean
libmyodbc
  odbc-postgresql libsqliteodbc tdsodbc mdbtools libmysql-java libpg-java
libjtds-java libreoffice-gcj libreoffice-report-builder
  libreoffice-style-hicontrast libreoffice-style-tango
libreoffice-style-crystal libreoffice-style-oxygen libxalan2-java-doc
libxsltc-java
  libxerces2-java-doc libxerces2-java-gcj
libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java-doc icedtea-plugin sun-java6-fonts
fonts-ipafont-gothic
  fonts-ipafont-mincho ttf-wqy-microhei ttf-wqy-zenhei ttf-indic-fonts
java5-runtime
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ant ant-optional ca-certificates-java default-jre default-jre-headless
fonts-lyx fonts-opensymbol fonts-sil-gentium fonts-sil-gentium-basic
  fonts-stix icedtea-6-jre-cacao icedtea-6-jre-jamvm icedtea-netx
icedtea-netx-common java-common libapache-pom-java libatk-wrapper-java-jni
  libcmis-0.2-0 libcolamd2.7.1 libcommons-beanutils-java
libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-compress-java
libcommons-digester-java
  libcommons-logging-java libcommons-parent-java libdb-java libdb-je-java
libdb5.1-java libdb5.1-java-jni libexttextcat-data libexttextcat0
  libgraphite2-2.0.0 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgstreamer0.10-0
libhsqldb-java libhyphen0 libicu48 libicu4j-java libjaxp1.3-java
  libjline-java libjtidy-java liblucene2-java libmhash2 libmythes-1.2-0
libneon27-gnutls libpcsclite1 libraptor2-0 librasqal3 librdf0
  libregexp-java libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw
  libreoffice-emailmerge libreoffice-filter-binfilter
libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common
libreoffice-math
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy
libreoffice-writer libservlet2.5-java libvisio-0.0-0 libwpd-0.9-9
libwpg-0.2-2
  libwps-0.2-2 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java libxml-commons-external-java
libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java libxz-java libyajl2 lp-solve
  openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib
openoffice.orgpython-uno ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-extra ttf-liberation
  ttf-sil-gentium-basic tzdata-java uno-libs3 ure xfonts-mathml



On Th

CVE-2013-2189: OpenOffice DOC Memory Corruption Vulnerability

2013-07-25 Thread Herbert Duerr

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Hash: SHA1

CVE-2013-2189
OpenOffice DOC Memory Corruption Vulnerability

Severity: Important
Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation

Versions Affected:
 Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 to 3.4.1 on all platforms.
 Predecessor versions of OpenOffice.org may be also affected.

Description:

 The vulnerability is caused by operating on invalid PLCF (Plex of
Character Positions in File) data when parsing a malformed DOC document
file. Specially crafted documents can be used for denial-of-service
attacks. Further exploits are possible but have not been verified.

Mitigation:

 Apache OpenOffice 3.4 users are advised to upgrade to Apache
OpenOffice 4.0. Users who are unable to upgrade immediately should be
cautious when opening untrusted documents.

Credits:

 The Apache OpenOffice Security Team credits Jeremy Brown of
Microsoft Vulnerability Research as the discoverer of this flaw.

Herbert Dürr
Member of the Apache OpenOffice Security Team
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CVE-2013-4156: OpenOffice DOCM Memory Corruption Vulnerability

2013-07-25 Thread Herbert Duerr

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CVE-2013-4156
OpenOffice DOCM Memory Corruption Vulnerability

Severity: Important
Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation

Versions Affected:
 Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1, on all platforms.
 Predecessor versions of OpenOffice.org may be also affected.

Description:

 The vulnerability is caused by mishandling of unknown XML elements
when parsing a OOXML document file. Specially crafted documents can be
used for memory-corruption attacks. Further exploits are possible but
have not been verified.

Mitigation

 Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 users are advised to upgrade to
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. Users who are unable to upgrade immediately
should be cautious when opening untrusted documents.

Credits

 The Apache OpenOffice Security Team credits Jeremy Brown of
Microsoft Vulnerability Research as the discoverer of this flaw.

Herbert Dürr
Member of the Apache OpenOffice Security Team
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