Re: SRPM Request

2012-12-09 Thread Issac Goldstand 

On 12/8/2012 3:58 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

Hi Lee,

On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 10:31:14PM +0900, Lee Ward wrote:

I noticed that there are RPM's available for OpenOffice. Are the SRPMS
also available?

No, there are no SRPMS, and it doesn't sound plausible. The source is
released only in compressed files:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk


I looked around a bit but could not find any.  Specifically, if
I could get the SRPM intended for the Fedora build would be greatly
appreciated.

The build are "universal builds", not different builds targeted to
specific Linux distributions. You can download the source tarball, it's
the same for all distros.

If you plan to develop, it's better to check out the code with
subversion (or better git-svn).




Really?  If there's an RPM, then there's probably a spec file 
*somewhere*, be it maintained by the project, or otherwise.


If it's maintained by the project, then Lee can use it as a starting 
point.  Frankly, if not, and the PMC is blessing/recommending a specific 
binary (read: those available at SF) already available in RPM form, it 
would make sense to contribute the spec file to the project anyway.


Granted, the project would (and should!) not be interested in 
maintaining distribution-specific tweaks, but I'd think that if there 
are universal patches or other ideas made from any downstream packagers, 
that would be of interest...


  Issac

Re: Wiki troubles?

2012-12-09 Thread janI 
On 8 December 2012 23:29, TJ Frazier  wrote:

> On 12/8/2012 16:19, janI wrote:
>
>> On 8 December 2012 21:56, TJ Frazier  wrote:
>>
>>  On 12/8/2012 12:19, janI wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi.

 If I understand you correctly I think I will have no change of
 correcting
 it...it is a standard usage of spammers, to make a fake login, and I
 think
 that is what you have been seeing. If I have misunderstood your report,
 then please excuse me.


>>> Please excuse my lack of clarity; your comment made me realize exactly
>>> what I was seeing. The "not logged in" page header is exactly what an
>>> anonymous user (not logged in) would see, when accessing the file. This
>>> is
>>> perfectly legal. If the user had a language code set in the browser, the
>>> page would naturally be in that language. Even a sysop might land on the
>>> "Recent changes" page, not notice not being logged in, and click on a
>>> link
>>> in the Upload log. Then the login status would become obvious, since the
>>> sysop options (including "delete all") would not show.
>>>
>>> However, for a logged-in user, this is a stale page, and should not be
>>> delivered by ATS.
>>>
>>> Now I think I understand you, I will look into it, but it is a wiki
>>>
>> problem and not a ATS, the traffic server cannot as far as I know generate
>> login pages. MWiki will however do it, if your cookies are deleted or out
>> of date. The use of cookies has changed quite a lot in the new release as
>> you will soon  see.
>>
>>
> Sorry, I'm still not being clear enough. The "Login / Create account" I'm
> talking about is the little yellow message that appears at the upper right
> on every page, for an anonymous user (not the Login dialog, with boxes for
> user name, etc.). The stale page itself is the File page, showing the
> picture, file history, links, etc. Presumably, this means that an anonymous
> user (probably a spammer) has recently accessed the page; otherwise, the
> wiki wouldn't have generated it.
>
> Some component (probably ATS) is not properly checking the logged-in
> status of a cached page versus the logged-in status of the requester. (Or
> the check is getting bad information, or ...) "Not logged in" pages should
> be delivered to any anonymous user, but not to any logged-in user. "Logged
> in" pages may only be delivered to that particular user.
>

What is ATS to you ?? to me it is the Apache Traffic Server, and it simply
routes requeststhe AS (Apache Server) do as you describe, compare
timestamp to see if a page should be sent or notThe current mwiki (php
scripts within AS) has a problem with timestamping, and as a result you get
an "old" skin (top part/menus/bottom). In your case (which is also my
case), mwiki simply do not check if you are already logged in (cookie
information) and more or less blindly sends out the skin without login
information.

According to release notes, it seems mwiki has been changed in the skin
handling, so lets see as soon as the new version is up and running (should
be soon).

Jan.

>
> HTH, /tj/
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  I am right now "fighting" with apache AND ats to get wikitest
 operational,
 I am so "lucky" that infra has suggested I do it myself and report to
 them
 when it works. But I like a challenge :-)

 jan I.


  Yes, you are lucky. When you are done, you will understand every part
>>> of
>>> the procedure, and you can feel confident that you can fix any part of
>>> it.
>>>
>>>  Yes, I have been the whole way from DNS server, router, traffic server
>> (ooo-wiki), apache (ooo-wiki) and are now playing with the upgrade.
>>
>> After this (incl. the mysql) I feel quite confident in handling this type
>> of servers.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I wish I could help more. Thank you for all your hard work.
>>>
>>>
>>> /tj/
>>>
>>>

 On 8 December 2012 17:52, TJ Frazier  wrote:

   On 12/8/2012 11:16, janI wrote:

>
>   Sorry, yes we are working on the traffic server and apache below
> wiki,
>
>> which might cause very short outages (less than 10 seconds).
>>
>> Jan.
>>
>>
>>  Jan,
>
> During the recent spam-fighting, I saw stale pages a number of times,
> of
> one particular type. I was chasing the pictures uploaded by spammers.
> When
> I clicked on the link, I would sometimes get a page with the "Log
> in/Create
> account" header, and sometimes not in English. In all cases, the
> "&purge=1"
> method cleared up the problem. Still, it seems curious that ATS didn't
> realize that I was already logged in. Not an earth-shaking problem, but
> if
> you see a way to fix it ...
>
> /tj/
>
>
>
>  On 8 December 2012 17:08, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>>
>>Wonder if the mWiki is being worked on, any email of outages must
>> have
>>
>>  escaped my inbox. Any confirmation, update?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alexandro Colora

Request Mwiki account

2012-12-09 Thread Kamran Shamim 
Hello there.

I would like to create an account.

My choices for username (order of decreasing preference):
kamran
Fr1998
krshamim

I confirm that my email address is the one used as sender for this message.

Thanks and regards


Kamran R. Shamim

+33 6 7086 2485
+33 4 9304 5857

Re: Request Mwiki account

2012-12-09 Thread helen 

Hello

Your account Kamran has been created. A randomly generated password has 
been sent to your email. Please change it when you first login.


Write again if you have problems.

--
Helen

09.12.2012 17:22, Kamran Shamim пишет:

Hello there.

I would like to create an account.

My choices for username (order of decreasing preference):
kamran
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krshamim

I confirm that my email address is the one used as sender for this message.

Thanks and regards


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+33 4 9304 5857

Re: [Proposal] Update and merge User FAQ's from Web ite and mwiiki

2012-12-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado 
On 12/7/12, Keith N. McKenna  wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Keith N. McKenna
>>  wrote:
>>> Based on extended discussions on this list at:
>>> http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results.
>>> I propose to start merging and updating the User FAQ's from the website
>>> into
>>> the current structure on the mediawiki (mwiki) and updating the FAQ's
>>> already there by eliminating outdated references to version 1 and version
>>> 2
>>> and any duplications.

Where will the final FAQ be? The one on mWiki seems to be the better
structure since it provides a search utility similar to the one on the
API library reference.

>>>
>>> If there are no objections in 72 hours I will start merging the entries
>>> from
>>> the website into the mwiki.
>>>
>>
>> +1.  I think there was general consensus that this was a good idea
>> from the discussion in the other thread.
>>
>> Thanks for volunteering to take the lead on this important task.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith N. Mckenna
>>>
>>
> Rob;
>
> I believe there was general consensus in the other thread also, but
> since I am also proposing some major changes to the content and previous
> philosophy of the mwiki also I felt it appropriate to go this route.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>


-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

NewWikiMainPage

2012-12-09 Thread George & Betsy 
in de writer gids kan ik hoofdstuk 11 niet vinden,om etiketten te maken, voor 
verschillende adressen, om deze op een brief te plakken en weg te sturen.
Zodat je in een handeling meerderen etiketten in een keer kan invullen.

vr: groet 
G Bos
geoge...@zonnet.nl

Re: [Proposal] Update and merge User FAQ's from Web ite and mwiiki

2012-12-09 Thread Keith N. McKenna 

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

On 12/7/12, Keith N. McKenna  wrote:

Rob Weir wrote:

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Keith N. McKenna
 wrote:

Based on extended discussions on this list at:
http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results.
I propose to start merging and updating the User FAQ's from the website
into
the current structure on the mediawiki (mwiki) and updating the FAQ's
already there by eliminating outdated references to version 1 and version
2
and any duplications.


Where will the final FAQ be? The one on mWiki seems to be the better
structure since it provides a search utility similar to the one on the
API library reference.



Alexandro;

My intent is to have the User FAQ's on the mWiki. Not only does it have 
the search feature, but having it in the mWiki format I believe makes it 
easier update and add new ones to.


Regards
Keith



If there are no objections in 72 hours I will start merging the entries
from
the website into the mwiki.



+1.  I think there was general consensus that this was a good idea
from the discussion in the other thread.

Thanks for volunteering to take the lead on this important task.

-Rob


Regards
Keith N. Mckenna




Rob;

I believe there was general consensus in the other thread also, but
since I am also proposing some major changes to the content and previous
philosophy of the mwiki also I felt it appropriate to go this route.

Regards
Keith

Project website migrated

2012-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

For those not following
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5603 :
Joe Schaefer (thanks!) migrated our two websites.

I was able to edit a page on
http://www.openoffice.org/
and
http://openoffice.apache.org/
is now a complete site, like
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

The only thing that still needs to be done is to set up a redirect from
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
to
http://openoffice.apache.org/
so that the "incubator" pages are redirected to the current ones. Compare:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
(old content, contains the typo "commmits")
and
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
(new content, typo fixed)

I've removed the notice about pending website migration from the 
December report draft.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: SRPM Request

2012-12-09 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile 
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 10:54:34AM +0200, Issac Goldstand wrote:
> >>I looked around a bit but could not find any.  Specifically, if
> >>I could get the SRPM intended for the Fedora build would be greatly
> >>appreciated.
> >The build are "universal builds", not different builds targeted to
> >specific Linux distributions. You can download the source tarball, it's
> >the same for all distros.
> >
> >If you plan to develop, it's better to check out the code with
> >subversion (or better git-svn).
> >
> >
> 
> Really?  If there's an RPM, then there's probably a spec file
> *somewhere*, be it maintained by the project, or otherwise.

No. The spec are generated at build time and removed once each package
each built, so there is no way to get the spec from the build (besides,
those spec are generated at runtime and are dependent on configure
switches).


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Project website migrated

2012-12-09 Thread Rob Weir 
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> For those not following
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5603 :
> Joe Schaefer (thanks!) migrated our two websites.
>
> I was able to edit a page on
> http://www.openoffice.org/
> and
> http://openoffice.apache.org/
> is now a complete site, like
> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>

Great.  Thanks, Joe!

I've changed the site-wide promotion to be a call for translation volunteers .

Did you want a few days of a FOSDEM Call for Papers as well?

I'd like to get the "AskOpenOffice" promotion in a few days as well.
But I think the translation call has the greater urgency right now.

-Rob

> The only thing that still needs to be done is to set up a redirect from
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> to
> http://openoffice.apache.org/
> so that the "incubator" pages are redirected to the current ones. Compare:
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
> (old content, contains the typo "commmits")
> and
> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
> (new content, typo fixed)
>
> I've removed the notice about pending website migration from the December
> report draft.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.

Re: Project website migrated

2012-12-09 Thread Kay Schenk 
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> For those not following
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5603 :
> Joe Schaefer (thanks!) migrated our two websites.
>
> I was able to edit a page on
> http://www.openoffice.org/
> and
> http://openoffice.apache.org/
> is now a complete site, like
> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
>
> The only thing that still needs to be done is to set up a redirect from
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> to
> http://openoffice.apache.org/
> so that the "incubator" pages are redirected to the current ones. Compare:
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
> (old content, contains the typo "commmits")
> and
> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
> (new content, typo fixed)
>
> I've removed the notice about pending website migration from the December
> report draft.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.

YAY! and a BIG Thank YOU to Joe!


-- 

MzK

"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."

  -- Aesop

Re: Draft Board report for December

2012-12-09 Thread Kay Schenk 
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> I started drafting the Board report for December, due on December 12.
>
> You can find the current draft at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2012+Dec
>
> Please complete/improve it directly on the wiki page, or send comments here.
> The report should cover, more or less, the period between graduation and
> today.
>
> Thanks,
>   Andrea.

Andrea --

There doesn't seem to be any mention of our participation at ApacheCon
EU or the OpenOffice track, in terms of what was learned there and
general stats on this.  Maybe something should be included by someone
who attended?

-- 

MzK

"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."

  -- Aesop

Incompatible changes in AOO 4.0 ?

2012-12-09 Thread Regina Henschel 

Hi all,

there are some pending incompatible changes (see below) and I wonder, 
whether they should be implemented in AOO 4.0 or later. The listed ones 
come to my mind, but there might be some more.


Kind regards
Regina

A
Implementation of FDIST as defined in ODF1.2

The function FDIST (part 2, 6.18.22) calculates the left tail (integral 
from 0 to x). The function LEGACY.FDIST (part 2, 6.18.23) calculates the 
right tail (integral from x to infinity). The current implemention of 
FDIST in AOO is actually “LEGACY.FDIST”. The function FDIST in documents 
written with OOo2.x are different from the function FDIST, which has to 
be implemented. I do not speak of the UI names, but of the names in the 
file.


B
Rotation of gradient

AOO interprets the angle of the rotation of a gradient as value with 
unit 0.1 degree. In ODF 1.2 it is defined, that it is unit degree. I see 
no willingness in the OASIS TC to change the specification to follow the 
interpretation of AOO, especially because Gnumeric follows the 
specification.


C
Interpretation of svg path command “z”

The svg path command “z” closes a path and sets the “actual point” to 
the start of that path. AOO uses the last point before the “z” command 
as “actual point”. LibreOffice has already changed to the correct 
behavior. In addition it has introduced a “ODF 1.2 extended (compat 
mode)” to allow to save to the old wrong kind.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119118

D
Order of radius and angle in custom shapes

The specification says in section 19.179 draw:handle-position, “If the 
draw:handle-polar attribute is set, then a handle is a polar handle and 
the first parameter of the draw:handle-position attribute specifies the 
angle (as defined in 18.3.1), the handle radius is specified by the 
second parameter.“ But AOO writes it the other way round.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120468

Re: Project website migrated

2012-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

Rob Weir wrote:

I've changed the site-wide promotion to be a call for translation volunteers .
Did you want a few days of a FOSDEM Call for Papers as well?


Yes please, maybe one day (just for testing effectiveness) during the 
coming week, say Wednesday 12th December, and then the last days of the 
Call for Papers, 19-23 December or so. Link should point to

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+Proposals


I'd like to get the "AskOpenOffice" promotion in a few days as well.
But I think the translation call has the greater urgency right now.


Sure, this should be our main message for this week: we definitely want 
to recruit translation volunteers now rather than in a couple weeks, 
when the translation deadline will be too close.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Project website migrated

2012-12-09 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto 
Hi

2012/12/9 Andrea Pescetti :
> For those not following
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5603 :
> Joe Schaefer (thanks!) migrated our two websites.

Thank you.

But I am following. :-)

-- 
  Albino

Re: NewWikiMainPage

2012-12-09 Thread tj 

On 12/9/2012 10:33, George & Betsy wrote:

in de writer gids kan ik hoofdstuk 11 niet vinden,om etiketten te maken, voor 
verschillende adressen, om deze op een brief te plakken en weg te sturen.
Zodat je in een handeling meerderen etiketten in een keer kan invullen.

vr: groet
G Bos
geoge...@zonnet.nl


Hi, George & Betsy,

1) This is the development list, for developers. Please send your 
question to the users' list, . We also have 
lists in German, French, Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese (sorry, no Dutch).


2) Please use a suitable subject, like "Labels". Your query has nothing 
to do with the wiki main page.


3) Google Translate did a very poor job on your text. You might try to 
reword and expand it. I couldn't tell what your problem is.


HTH,
/tj/

Re: Request Mwiki account

2012-12-09 Thread TJ Frazier 

On 12/9/2012 13:33, marc payen wrote:

USER NAME : marcooo93
Best regards

Done. You should have the email with your random password. Please change 
that when you first log in. Welcome to the wiki! Write here again if you 
have any problems.


/tj/
(User:TJFrazier on the wiki)

Re: calc spreadsheet data validate window: 'Value' field not checked

2012-12-09 Thread Shan Zhu 
Hi, Lucas

I think your scenario and expected result are reasonable.
In Validity dialog, Spreadsheet does not check whether the input in Value
field and the selection in Allow field are matched.
In MS Excel, it has been checked.


Regards,
Shan Zhu




On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Lucas Burson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm doing a regression test on a Calc spreadsheet using data validity
> for cells. It appears that if you open the validity window (toolbar
> Data -> Validity) the 'Value' box isn't checked against the allowed
> type. I don't see it in BZ... but I haven't used search enough to be
> sure.
> Or maybe I'm doing it wrong?
>
> This fails on Win7_32 and Ubuntu_64 for AOO 3.4.1 and 4.0M1 builds. It
> must have worked at one point in time since it's a regression test.
>
> 1. Create a spreadsheet.
> 2. Select some group of cells (or a single cell, doesn't matter)
> 3. On the main toolbar, select 'Data' -> 'Validity...'. The validity
> window opens.
> 4. For the Allow dropdown, select 'Whole Numbers'. Set Data to Equal.
> 5. In the Value field, enter some non-whole number (like 'm', or '1.2').
> 6. The illegal value should be rejected but it's not.
>
> Thanks,
> Lucas
>

Re: calc spreadsheet data validate window: 'Value' field not checked

2012-12-09 Thread Zhang Lu 
Hi, Lucas and Shan

   There is no code for checking the validation of input value as Zhu Shan
said, I have got through this part code, not only whole numbers, but also
all other categories existed this issue. So I think it can be handled as a
defect. If user input an illegal value,  there is meaningless for data
validation.

Regards,
Lu Zhang

Re: calc spreadsheet data validate window: 'Value' field not checked

2012-12-09 Thread Shan Zhu 
Hi, Lu
It's okay. IMHO, it can be implemented as a feature enhancement. Then
prepare a formal testing to verify this implementation. It will be better
than checking it as defect verification.

Regards,
Shan Zhu




On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Zhang Lu  wrote:

> Hi, Lucas and Shan
>
>There is no code for checking the validation of input value as Zhu Shan
> said, I have got through this part code, not only whole numbers, but also
> all other categories existed this issue. So I think it can be handled as a
> defect. If user input an illegal value,  there is meaningless for data
> validation.
>
> Regards,
> Lu Zhang
>

Re: calc spreadsheet data validate window: 'Value' field not checked

2012-12-09 Thread Zhang Lu 
Hi Zhu shen,
   Sure, it can be implemented as a feature due to workload, thanks!

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Shan Zhu  wrote:

> Hi, Lu
> It's okay. IMHO, it can be implemented as a feature enhancement. Then
> prepare a formal testing to verify this implementation. It will be better
> than checking it as defect verification.
>
> Regards,
> Shan Zhu
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Zhang Lu  wrote:
>
> > Hi, Lucas and Shan
> >
> >There is no code for checking the validation of input value as Zhu
> Shan
> > said, I have got through this part code, not only whole numbers, but also
> > all other categories existed this issue. So I think it can be handled as
> a
> > defect. If user input an illegal value,  there is meaningless for data
> > validation.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Lu Zhang
> >
>

Re: Open Office Cost

2012-12-09 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto 
Hi

2012/12/6 Rob Weir :
> "Support" means different things to different people.   Apache OpenOffice
> is a free, open source application, published by the non-profit Apache
> Software Foundation.  It is programmed, tested, translated, etc., by
> volunteers.   We help answer user questions via a mailing list and an
> online forum.  This support is free, provided by volunteers.

I want strengethen when adoting the AOO to contribute to the project. :-)


  Albino

Re: [Accessibility] Do AOO have any testing result about accessibility under Linux (ATK) platform?

2012-12-09 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto 
Hi.

2012/12/4 Steve Yin :
> If we have such kind of report we can do assessment about AOO accessibility
> under Linux.

Good ask.

.. and accessibility under Mac OS ?

  Albino

Re: NewWikiMainPage

2012-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

tj wrote:

2) Please use a suitable subject, like "Labels". Your query has nothing
to do with the wiki main page.


Note that this is due to the fact that
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page
contains a notice saying
"You're looking for the old wiki main page and miss items not 
transferred to this one? Send us your feedback or transfer missing items 
to this page", where "Send us you feedback" is a mailto link to this 
list with subject "NewWikiMainPage".


Since that notice is probably outdated now, I would replace it with a 
line saying "For user support, please use the User Forum", linked to 
http://forum.openoffice.org .


Regards,
  Andrea.

[QA Report]Weekly Defect Status Analysis Report as of 2012/12/10

2012-12-09 Thread Ji Yan 
Hi all,

 I post weekly defect status report at [1]. Please review

[1]
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/DefectStatus/201212#Defect_Status_Analysis_as_of_2012.2F12.2F10

-- 


Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji