[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
"This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully* support trivial things like copy/paste." I couldn't agree more. I always say: "How can we ever solve bug number one if Ubuntu (or more general "Linux") can't even remember an image I placed on the clipboard two seconds ago?" "Fortunately this works well in KDE." Is this true? I know KDE includes Klipper (KDE-version of Glipper) by default. Glipper only supports text. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume KDE's copy and paste function also supports text only. So, if you're running Firefox and you copy a picture (for instance the launchpad logo on the top of this page), you close Firefox, start The GIMP and try to paste the logo from the clipboard the clipboard is empty. I don't use KDE, so I don't know how it works exactly. I only know Klipper is included by default and I assume in KDE you're left with the same functionality as when running GNOME with Glipper installed. This still isn't a WORKING copy and paste function, but it's a HALF WORKING workaround. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I'm not going to explain how to reproduce this bug again. I've done this before for about 452 times. How many times do I have to explain how to reproduce this bug? I can't imagine people keep on asking how to reproduce this bug. Are people really that dumb? This bug is the easiest bug ever to reproduce. For one of the explanations I wrote see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/21202/comments/37 -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
By the way: Why was LimCores tag deleted? He was completely right. I have to agree with him. Still having such broken copy and paste functionality after all those years while thousands of people keep on losing data IS an epic fail. This bugs importance has to be raised to the highest possible setting. Having an working copy and paste functionality is one the base components of an operating system. No, Glipper is NOT a solution as it's full of bugs and only supports text. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
I couldn't agree more, lenooh. -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
True, Christian. Some bugs are still present in Ubuntu, even after many years have passed. Nautilus' List View has always had these kind of bugs. These bugs were already reported in 2001, but instead of fixing bugs they keep on adding new features. Can't they spend their time fixing those way too old bugs instead of adding new features? -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Parcellite doesn't support images, sounds, some scene copied from a videofile, et cetera. It only supports text. Last time I tried Parcellite it was very unstable. We don't need half baked workarounds. We don't want to install an application for every desktop environment (Glipper or Parcellite for GNOME, Klipper for KDE). Like Guilhem says: "Fix it in X, it gets fixed for everybody" (and drop glipper !) There shouldn't be workarounds for every single desktop environment out there. It needs to be fixed at the core. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 387573] Re: Drop-down calendar does not close unless you click on it
I absolutely like the calendar the way it behaves now and I don't want it to be changed. When doing my administration in OpenOffice.org Calc I've always got the Calendar opened and I really like the way I can enter data into Calc and at the same time look at the calendar to see which week numbers I have to enter into Calc. When one month is ready, I can just click on the arrow in the calendar to go on to the next month and I can just go on typing data into Calc. This is how the calendar should work. -- Drop-down calendar does not close unless you click on it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387573 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-panel in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
pyrates wrote on 2009-08-29: "The design of the clipboard isn't... ...it is broken and not working." I couldn't agree more! Przemysław Kulczycki wrote on 2009-08-29: "@pyrates If it isn't rocket science for you, why don't you write a patch to fix it?" Could people please STOP posting such comments? You people talk like everyone in the world knows how to program. I also understand exactly how copy/paste works nowadays, how it should work and where it needs to be fixed. For me it also isn't rocket science. Does this mean I'm able to fix this problem? No, because I don't know how to program. Sure, I can do "Hello world" and some simple calculations, but that's all. When seeing the source code of other programs I don't understand anything. When do people start to realize not everyone knows how to program and how to fix bugs? Przemysław Kulczycki wrote on 2009-08-29: "Most Ubuntu developers aren't paid for their work, they do it voluntarily. And the number of Ubuntu devs isn't infinite." And that's the main problem of open source. Someone has an idea, starts to write some code and releases a bèta version. A lot doesn't work as it should work, but instead of first fixing those bugs, the developer starts integrating some new features. He has some cool ideas and he wants to implement them. True, what's more fun: fixing bug or adding cool new features? So the developer keeps on adding new features, but after years of development those bugs from the first build aren't even fixed. Then the original developer doesn't want to go on developing his software, so he just stops. Some othet people pick up the code and start adding their cool new features, which also have some bugs. Those bugs also need to be fixed, but adding new features is more fun, so new features are added. It doesn't matter if people are complaining about those bugs, because the developers aren't paid, so they can do what they want: adding new features. Ubuntu (actually Linux in general) has so many bugs that aren't fixed after all those years. No way you should see such thing in a commercial product like Windows or Mac OS, but in a free operating system like Ubuntu (Linux in general) this is possible. It's possible to not fix those bugs, even if they exist for more than ten years. What Ubuntu (or Linux in general) really needs are more paid developers, a bunch of paid professionals. Only then will there be "a year of the Linux desktop". Przemysław Kulczycki wrote on 2009-08-29: "Comments such as yours won't help fixing this bug." The developers don't want to fix this bug, so it doesn't matter which comments are posted. All of them don't help fixing this bug. The only way to help fix this bug, is giving a professional programmer a whole lot of money if he fixes this bug. P.S. After all those years this bug is still on the wishlist. Ridiculous! This isn't a wishlist, this is a bug of the highest priority as people are frustrated, because they constantly loose their work. Why do you think the market share of Linux grows so slowly? They try it, loose their work, because of this ridiculous 1980's-style copy/paste method and go back to Windows or buy a Mac. This is a bug of the HIGHEST priority! -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Olaf wrote 6 hours ago: "I also find this bug annoying - but it is not of the "highest priority" IMHO - especially as a workaround has been available for years: glipper/klipper." I've said this many times: Glipper is not a solution and not even a good workaround. Glipper is unstable, 1 in 10 times when starting the system, Glipper doesn't start and Glipper only supports text. Copy an in image in Firefox (for example the Launchpad logo), close Firefox, start The GIMP, try to paste the image... impossible, even when using Glipper. Olaf wrote 6 hours ago: "I would very much like to see this bug fixed, but installing k/glipper or keeping the source app open while you copy/paste is not terribly difficult. Some day a GSoC project or somebody from IBM/et al will fix it." As I said, Glipper isn't a solution nor a good workaround. True, keeping the source opened is the best workaround and I do this, but everytime I have to remember to not close the source before pasting. This is just so 1980's. It's completely ridiculous we have to keep the source opened in the year 2009!!! You can't expect new users to know they've to keep the source open to be able to paste. New users will everytime loose their work, because they don't understand what's going on under the hood. Ubuntu never says: "You've copied something, so you've got the keep the source open to be able to paste it somewhere else. Closing this window will loose the contents of the clipboard." How does a new user know he has to keep the source open. He always closed the source and then pasted the contents of the clipboard somewhere else when he was using Windows. This is the way a clipboard should work! Keeping the source open is completely ridiculous! We're living in the year 2009, not in the 1980's. People are used to the way copy/paste works on Windows (which is the only good way to implement copy/paste) and when using Linux they have no clue what's going on. They keep on loosing their work and they haven't got a single clue they have to keep the source open. When I started using Linux, I've lost my work so many times and people are still losing their work, every day. Therfore this bug has to be marked as a bug of the HIGHEST PRIORITY, not as wishlist. Please, someone, change this to HIGHEST PRIORITY! -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Olaf wrote 21 hours ago: "Though - come on - it shouldn't take too many losses to remember this behaviour." How does a normal user know why the contents of his clipboard are lost? How does this user know he has to keep the source open? We know why this happens, but people on Launchpad aren't the average user. My dad had forgotten his password for some website, so he clicked the "I forgot my password" link retrieve a new password. He opened Evolution, copied the password, closed Evolution and tried to paste his password in Firefox. Ofcourse this didn't work, so he though he didn't click on "Copy". He opened Evoltion for a second time, made sure he copied the new password and closed Evolution to paste the password in Firefox. After several tries he gave up. He really didn't know what was going on and he was almost going nuts. He's an average user. How will he ever know he has to keep the source open? I use Google to get to know what's going on, but the average user doesn't do this. The average user just gives up and takes the telephone to call the person who installed Ubuntu and tells him he want Windows back, because Ubuntu doesn't work. My dad doesn't search on Google. What should he enter in Googles search bar? He doesn't know what a clipboard is, he only knows: Right click and select "Copy" to copy and select "Paste" to paste. If this doesn't work, then he gives up. He doesn't know which words to enter to find a website which explains how copy/paste works in Linux and if he does find this website, he doesn't understand it, because he doesn't know English. Olaf wrote 21 hours ago: "I'm not saying it's good the way it is - but it's not the worst problem ever. And there's plenty of things with higher prority. On my personal list - remembering size and position of closed apps - so they open in the same position with the same size next time I open them - instead of "smart" placement that gnome devs prefered - would be a way higher priority in my book." I don't know a single bug that should have a higher priority. The bug you're speaking of is, in my opinion, absolutely not a bug of high priority. The copy/paste bug causes many users to loose their work, every day. The size/position bug doesn't cause people to loose their work. Everything just works: The windows just open. The only thing you have to do, is drag and drop the window to the location to want it to be and make the window bigger or smaller. That only takes a second or maybe a few seconds, but that's all. In my opinion a low priority. The copy/paste bug causes people to loose their work. Every day people loose work, only because of this bug. A bug which causes so many people to loose their work just has to be a bug of the highest priority. Olaf wrote 21 hours ago: "Google is collecting ideas every year for GSoC projects. Write a proposal and submit it. Fair chance a student will be paid by google fixing this." Ok, were can I do this? I can't find a page to submit ideas. pyrates wrote 16 hours ago: "Just an idea here, what do the rest of you think?" Perfect. pyrates wrote 16 hours ago: "Oh yeah and I almost forgot, remove the selection copy method." True, copy/paste with the scroll wheel just doesn't work. In the past, when there was just a normal button in the middle, it worked, but nowadays mice have scroll wheels, which are too sensitive. I select some text in Firefox, try to paste it somewhere else, but everytime I press the scroll wheel to paste I scroll down a bit, so the text is pasted at the wrong place. Saïvann Carignan wrote 16 hours ago: "This is a bug report, ideas are counterproductive here." His replies describe how the bug can be fixed. His replies are usefull, which I can't say of your replies. Actually it doesn't even matter what replies are posted. None of them help fixing this bug, none of them is productive, because developers just don't care. I've got the feeling I'm only talking to non- programmers who are affected by this bug. Once in a while when many replies are posted some moderator comes along, only to tell the replies are counterproductive and that's all. Where are the programmers? Where are the people who are able to fix bugs? Saïvann Carignan wrote 16 hours ago: "As repeated before, there is already a specification for clipboard which is good for old and new clipboard methods, the bug is simply that most software does not implement it correctly so re-inventing another specification is probably not likely to bring a solution to the problem." You really don't understand it. Read the replies. The bug isn't simply that most software doen't implement it correctly. The bug is simply that the clipboard is integrated at the wrong place. It has been said many times before. -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a dup
[Bug 21202] Re: Clipboard is erased after closing program. affects multiple programs.
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 11334 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 @mercury80: Yes, you know where it needs to be fixed, I know where it needs to be fixed, most of us know where it needs to be fixed, but the developers are cocky and stubborn. They really don't care about the number of duplicates and the number of comments on the original bug report and all of those duplicates. They just don't want to fix it, so it's not going to happen. Only real solution: Stop using these kind of amateuristic operating systems. If you've got the money, just buy a Mac. It also has Unix-roots, it's fast and stable and everything just works. There's just a clipboard that works for all applications. Mac OS X isn't created by some amateurs who try to write some code in their spare time. Apple has a lot of professional developers who're being paid and they know how which features are important and they've got the skills to develop these features. -- Clipboard is erased after closing program. affects multiple programs. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/21202 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug (via bug 11334). -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
Pedro Villavicencio wrote on 2009-12-14: "If you want this bug to be fixed, then talk with the upstream maintainers, best way is to comment on the upstream report and raise that on their mailing list." You've got to be kidding. Those people at Gnome just don't want this bug to be fixed. It doesn't matter if you talk to them or if you create patches. Some patches are already SIX YEARS old, but Gnome just doesn't cooperate. I've seen people got banned, because they were asking to finally fix this bug. Really, it doesn't care what you do. They just don't want to have this bug fixed. -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 39328] Re: Offer option to disable scroll wheel on task list
It'd be really nice to see an option to disable this annoying feature in one of the upcoming releases of Ubuntu. -- Offer option to disable scroll wheel on task list https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/39328 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
Shouldn't this be added to One Hundred Paper Cuts? -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 8422] Re: Error message on ending VNC session
By default TSClient uses the protocol "RDP". This gives me an error everytime. After switching the protocol from "RDP" to "RDPv5" I haven't encountered anymore problems. I've been using "RDPv5" for more than a month now and everything works flawlessly. -- Error message on ending VNC session https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/8422 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
I think List View should work the same as Compact View. Isn't it possible to replace some code of List View with the code of Compact View? In Compact View everything works as it should be. Only the filename is highlighted when selecting files, you can use rubberband selection and a secundairy click on a filename gives another menu than a secundairy click in white space. You can even do a secundairy click in the white space between two files. -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
I agree with Christian A. Reiter. Having "Paste" and "Create new folder" always in the context menu is a bad workaround for the reasons Christian A. Reiter gave. A secundairy click should give a different context menu as when clicking some space next to, above or beneath the filename. Just like when doing a secundairy click on a hyperlink on a website. You only get the conext menu to open links in a new tab when clicking the hyperlink. Doing a secundairy click only 1mm next to, above or beneath the hyperlink gives you a completely other context menu. The same goes for Icon View and Compact View in Nautilus. A secundairy click on a filename gives you a completely other context menu compared to the context menu you get when doing a secundairy click next to, above or beneath a filename. The same goes for all views of the Explorer in Windows. Attachment: Current situation. ** Attachment added: "Nautilus1.png" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28505394/Nautilus1.png -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
Attachment: How it should be. A secundairy click on the filename or the icon should give the same context menu as in the current behavior. Clicking on a filename or the icon only selects the brown in the screenshot. A secundairy click anywhere else should give the same context menu as when clicking in white space. Left clicking anywhere else shouldn't select any files. ** Attachment added: "Nautilus2.png" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28505528/Nautilus2.png -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
Compact View has some white space between filenames, so I also added some white space in my screenshot. Your version indeed looks better, although it isn't possible to get the context menu when clicking between two filenames. Is it really needed to be able to click between filenames? I don't think so. Everything is better than what we have at this moment. -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
I already read it a few months ago, but it's a great article. That guy knows what he's talking about and I couldn't agree more. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 39328] Re: Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows
This looks great. This really is a great improvement. I agree with dfalk. "Enable scrolling" isn't clear enough. How about "Flip through windows using mouse wheel"? I also agree this is a bad default and it should be disabled by default. -- Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/39328 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 8422] Re: Error message on ending VNC session
This bug is still present in Ubuntu 9.04 RC. ** Attachment added: "Error.png" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25830161/Error.png -- Error message on ending VNC session https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/8422 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Yesterday my father wanted to log on to a website. He didn't know the password anymore, so he looked up this password in Evolution, copied the password, closed Evolution and tried to paste the password in Firefox. The paste function was greyed out and my father thought he had clicked on the wrong button, instead of the copy button. He opened Evolution again, copied the password from the e-mail, closed Evolution and tried to paste the password in Firefox. Again he was unable to paste the password and he really had no clue what was going on. As I said before a working copy and paste function is one of the basic features of an operating system. This is something that has to work... always. A lot of people have lost already lost their work, because this basic function of an operating system still doesn't work. There are a lot of stories of people who type a long reply in an text editor and after more than one hour of work copy this reply, close the editor and try to paste it in Firefox to reply on a forum. All of the work is gone and there's no way to get it back. More than one hour of work is gone. People don't want to loose hours of work, only because a basic feature of an operating system doesn't work. This is one of the reasons people go back to Windows or buy a Mac. On these operating systems copy / paste works the way it should work and they won't loose their work, because they closed the source. If you want to be taken seriously, than implement a copy / paste function that works the way it should work. Otherwise people will always look at Ubuntu as an half-baked, amaturistic operating system. It can't be that hard to implement, because Desktop Data Manager already makes it work the way it should. Take the source code of this application, take out all unneeded featues (screenshot utility and download manager) and implement it in Ubuntu. Problem solved. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
@Michael Nagel: I've tried Glipper, Parcellite and Desktop Data Manager. In my opinion Glipper and Percellite just don't work. Both of them only support text, I've had problems with these applications not starting when booting the system, after installing these applications the copy / paste function of OpenOffice.org stopped working properly. I'm using Desktop Data Manager for months now and I haven't had any problems. It not only supports text, but also images. I haven't had any problems with this application. It always starts and copy / paste just works, always. "maybe in a modified version to show no task list icon (and thus only exposing the basic "copy and paste just works"-behavior but not the advanced history&co options)." I'd really like to see a stripped down version of Desktop Data Manager to be included in the default distribution. "--> we should really try to get a clipboard manager in the default distribution for karmic. the importance of this bug should be raised to... at least something above "normal" imho." I completely agree. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
Could this bug be fixed, please? -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Can this please be fixed? -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
See my comment here for a much longer comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/21202/comments/37 Sorry for kicking this thread with that previous comment, but in my opinion it's ridiculous there's still no working copy/paste function in Linux, after all those years. In my opinion it's way more important to have a working copy/paste function, instead of (for instance) some new way to notificate users. The current notifications already work, copy/paste doesn't work like it has to work. Let's first fix all of those bugs, instead of adding new features and improving thing that already work without problems. -- Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 125032] Re: gimp save dialog doesn't change extentision in file name
I want this to be fixed too. -- gimp save dialog doesn't change extentision in file name https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125032 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 9364] Re: Dutch "ij" ligature (ij)
It still hasn't been fixed. Compose - a - e gives me an æ, just like expected. I expected to get an ij by typing compose - i - j, but it doesn't work. -- Dutch "ij" ligature (ij) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/9364 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
"don't exactly know what you mean with "space in dest folder is full" - disk space? no, please explain." Of course he isn't talking about disk space. Is it so difficult to understand? What he means: In List View each row contains one file. Let's say, there's enough room in the window to fit 40 rows in it (so 40 files can fit in this window). Now you copy a file and you try to paste it in the destination foler. If the destination folder contains less than 40 files, there are some empty rows left, so you can use this empty space to paste the file. If the destination folder contains 40 files or more than 40 files, there's no more space left to do a secundairy click to be able to paste the file, so the "destination folder is full" (not in terms of available bytes, but number of empty rows a.k.a. whitespace). "in Dolphin/Konqueror you can right-click on the whitespace right to the file names in detail view or anywhere in between the files in the symbols view, and choose "Paste", when you right-click on a folder, you can choose "paste into folder". IMO this is the way nautilus should do it as well" I also did a test and you're completely right. This is the way Nautilus should work. This is the way all file managers (except Nautilus) work. -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
wribeiro wrote on 2009-10-20: "More than 3 years since this bug was first reported, and the only thing to do is make background clickable when Nautilus is in listview mode, but until now nothing was done. Maybe Nautilus team should review the importance of this bug and change its priority because a solution is really necessary for users who manage large folders and depends of listview mode to manage lots fo files. Home users, like most part of Gnome users, maybe don't feel affected by this problem, but enterprise users are! How can Gnome substitute Windows in enterprise environment if a single correction like that take such a long time to be implemented? Thank you!" I couldn't agree more. The same goes for the non-functional copy/paste in Ubuntu (Linux in general). Developers just don't care. They don't want to fix bugs, they only want to develop new features. Stop developing Gnome Shell, another Login Screen and such new features. First fix all of those existing bugs! It's the problem I see with all kind of open source software. Developing new features is fun, but fixing bugs isn't. So, the developers only want to develop new features, but they really don't care about existing bugs. First complete your existing project, before moving on. Then there are those people who keep on saying "Fix it yourself if it bothers you." and "The code is opensource and anybody could give it a try". Those people think everyone in the world knows how to write programs and how to fix bugs. I really want to fix those bugs. If I was able to fix bugs, this bug was already fixed, but I'm not a programmer. I know a little PHP and that's it. All other languages are way too complicated for me. I've tried C, C++ and Phython, but I'm not able to produce something usefull. The only thing I can do in C, C++ or Phython is a CLI application which asks for two numbers and then says "Number 1 + Number 2 = Answer". I just don't have enough skills to do more advanced programming. Who's going to fix all of those bugs if the developers don't want to fix them and those who do want to fix them have not enough skills to fix them? -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Two weeks ago a friend of mine was using the GIMP to choose a nice color. When he found a color he liked, he copied the hexcode of the color, closed the GIMP and wanted to paste the color in KompoZer. As you can guess this was impossible. It happened a few times to him and he really didn't know what was going on. A few days ago my father wanted to logon to a website, but he forgot his password. He clicked on the link called "Send me my password", he opened Evolution, copied the password, closed Evolution and wanted to paste the password in Firefox. You all know this is impossible. A few months ago I already told my dad this was impossible, but he forgot, so this time he again tried to use the copy/paste function the Windows way. Again he was confused and didn't know what was happening. mac_v wrote on 2009-09-02: "As already stated several times , If you have such a huge passion for this and are capable of fixing it , - fix it or - wait patiently for a volunteer to fix it or - else *Pls do not use linux* ." Is it strange we have such a huge passion for this? The Linux way of using copy/paste just is a big, epic fail. - Not everyone is a programmer; - We've waiting for a fix since the first release of a graphical interface for Linux, but the progress is still ZERO!!! In all of those years there has been absolutely NO PROGRESS AT ALL and I doubt it ever be fixed. - True, that's the best solution and that's why I'm going to sell all of my PC's and my laptop. I'm going to buy a few iMacs and MacBooks, because Linux just doesn't work. The market share of Linux is still an epic fail and do you know why? Because of these kind of stupid bugs which keep on bothering people, while there's absolutely no progress in fixing these bugs. The market share of Linux is incredebly low and that's exactly as it needs to be. An operating system which has such bugs since it's first release doesn't even deserve a good market share. Good to see your advice to not use Linux. I've already stopped to advice people to use Linux months ago. I give the advice to use Mac OS, as this works as expected. DieterVDW wrote on 2009-11-13: "I really can't even begin to grasp why this isn't on top of the priority list. This makes me think very bad things about the decision makers at Canonical... Seriously frustrated..." Absolutely true. -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 106644] Re: Clipboard contents are lost when window is closed
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 11334 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 balteo wrote on 2009-11-10: "This bug is a serious annoyance. Any chance it will be fixed in future releases?" Don't expect it to be fixed before 2021. -- Clipboard contents are lost when window is closed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106644 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug (via bug 11334). -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 51043] Re: "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders
Sebastien Bacher wrote on 2009-10-26: "The reasoning you use doesn't stand, you can't dictate people to work on nautilus, the one working on compiz or ubuntuone would probably not fix this bug either if they were not doing that, they do things they are motivated doing or would do nothing" And that's the problem of open source. There's no one telling dictating developers to fix bugs. What you're saying is completely right: "they do things they are motivated doing or would do nothing" and that's the problem: Developers want to develop new features as that's way more fun than the boring work of fixing bugs. That's why there are so many bugs in our operating system that exist for more than five years, but still aren't fixed. The developers who wrote those applications just don't want to fix those existing bugs, because it's boring. Instead they just develop some new features, because it's fun. But who's going the fix those bugs? The developers don't want to fix them. It's right, developers of Compiz of Ubuntu One are not going those bugs, as they are working on their own applications. What's left? Those people like me, who are not a programmer and aren't able to fix those bugs. But if you ask the developers to fix the bugs in their application, they just say: "If it bothers you, fix it yourself." I'm not a programmer. How am I going to fix those bugs? Besides that, why SHOULD I fix the bug myself? It their application. They released an application with annoying bugs, so it's their task to fix those bugs. But the developer isn't paid and he does what he likes to do, which is developing new features. That's the problem: there's no one who tells those developers: "Go fix those bugs." That's problem of software developed by people who aren't paid. -- "rightclick -> paste" missing in contextmenu when pointer is above files/folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51043 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste
Olaf wrote 49 minutes ago: "I really believe most people prefer speed and hardware support and reducing reggressions as high priority issues." The most important is to have an operating system you can trust, an operating system which is reliable, an operating system that doesn't forget something you told him only one second ago. Olaf wrote 49 minutes ago: "But if having to paste first and close the first app later is too much effort and this really is a fatal issue in anybodies opinion - then - yes - pick a platform where the issues are a better fit for your preferences." It's not that keeping the application open is much effort, but you have to remember to keep an application open everytime you want to perfom a copy/paste. If you forget to keep the application open ALL WORK IS LOST. Besides that, how do people know they have to keep the source open? It isn't mentioned anywhere. According to http://marketshare.hitslink.com /operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 92.52% is running Windows and 5.27% is running Mac OS. That's 97.79% of all desktops in the world on which you don't have to remember to keep the source open. Because of this no one expects everything is lost after closing the source. How do you expect those switching from Windows or Mac OS to know they have to keep the source open? Almost everyone in the world will just close the source before pasting, because they expect it to work and they really have no clue what's going on if the option to paste is greyed out. They absolutely have no idea what's going on. How do you expect those people to know they have to keep the source open? Keeping the source open is a strange way to copy/paste anyway. Just make it work as everyone expects it to work, The way it works on Windows and Mac OS is the abvious way for copy/paste to work. Jackflap wrote 36 minutes ago: "Well, it looks like some nice developer has volunteered his time to the Mozilla suite to fix this bug (iirc), and progress is being made to fix this for Firefox. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340"; That's useless. It needs to be fixed in X, so it will work in every application and in every desktop environment. Now it'll be fixed in Firefox, but what happens when using the GIMP? Yes, copy/paste doesn't work. There are thousands of applications that can be installed, so it needs to be fixed in all of those applications. Do you think the developers of all of those applications will implement the clipboard specification from FreeDesktop? It's taking ages for a big application like Firefox to implement this copy/paste function, so how long do you think it will take for every application to implement this? Answer: it will never happen. There are too many applications and new applications keep on coming and almost none of these applications uses the clipboard specification from FreeDesktop. Besides that, it will only work in Gnome. How about the other desktop environments and how about running KDE-applications in Gnome? As I said for about 30 times before: This is the wrong way to fix this bug. It needs to be fixed in X. After fixing X copy/paste will work in every applications in every desktop environment. -- MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a subscriber of a duplicate bug. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 39328] Re: Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows
How do you tell users the way of scrolling has been changed? Users have been scrolling using the edges of the touchpad for years. You can't just change this to two-fingers scroll. If the edges don't work in a new release of Ubuntu, they'll think the developers screwed up the touchpad drivers and just re-install an older version of Ubuntu where this "bug didn't excist". Yes, I know it's just disabled and users can re-enable it, but they don't know. How does the user know he has to use two fingers to scroll? The best way is to show a window showing an animated picture of how to scroll in this new version of Ubuntu. This windows should be displayed for every user which logs on for the first time if Ubuntu detects a Synaptics touchpad. Otherwise people really don't know how to scroll. -- Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/39328 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 433207] Re: Save as button should be default focus
You've fixed this bug by swapping both buttons. Now "Save As" is on the left side and "Close without Saving" is on the right side. In my opinion that's not the correct way of fixing the bug. The focus should be moved from the left button to the right button. Having "Save As" on the left side and "Close without Saving" on the right side doesn't match the behavior of other Gnome applications. Look at Gedit. It has the "Close without Saving" button on the left and "Save As" on the right and the right button has the focus. Swapping these buttons will break Gnomes consistent behavior. Users expect the "Save As" button to be on the right side, just like in Gedit or the GIMP. Users are used to clicking the right button to save. If the buttons are swapped in Sound Recorder users will lose their work after instinctively clicking the right button. -- Save as button should be default focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/433207 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 39328] Re: Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows
JSuvanto wrote 2 hours ago: "I would still use edge scrolling even if two finger scroll was an option. Also, I'm not a coder, but it sounds a lot less work to write code for disabling an old feature than to implement a completely new feature." Two finger scrolling is already available in Ubuntu since Ubuntu 9.04. -- Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/39328 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 39328] Re: Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows
Sorry for the double post, but I want to add I agree with you about two finger scroll not being a solution, but just a workaround. Disabling scrolling through windows isn't much work. Marcus Carlson already made a patch which makes it possible to enable or disable this feature, but it hasn't been included in Ubuntu 9.10. I don't know why. -- Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/39328 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
