Re: Link to Debian on http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-lang-priorities
On 30/03/2016 19:37, Holger Wansing wrote: on your page http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-lang-priorities there is a link to our Debian webpage "http://www.debian.org/intro/cn#mozilla";. We have changed the relevant page, amongst other changes: sort browsers alphabetically; see https://www.debian.org/intro/cn.en.html. That means Mozilla is no longer at the top of the page. Which is why I suggest you to change the link onto https://www.debian.org/intro/cn#setting. thanks, Holger. Change made. ri
SSL Certificate error on debian.com
Hi, If you go to https://www.debian.com/ you get an invalid certificate error - as the certificate has been issued for debian.org, not debian.com The content seems to be the same though, so if they are the same sites, why don't you just 501 redirect all traffic to www.debian.com to www.debian.org? Just one line in .htaccess will do it - unless there are pages that are different on the two sites. As well as getting rid of the rather unfriendly security warnings (how many people leave when they see this?) it would also improve your search results, as search engines will see the two sites as duplicate content. Other than that, Debian is a great Linux distro! Regards Adam
Re: SSL Certificate error on debian.com
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Adam Cadman wrote: > If you go to https://www.debian.com/ you get an invalid certificate error - > as the certificate has been issued for debian.org, not debian.com Debian doesn't use debian.com so there isn't much point having a cert for it. Do you think it would be useful to have a cert for it despite that? > The content seems to be the same though, so if they are the same sites, why > don't you just 501 redirect all traffic to www.debian.com to www.debian.org? There is already a redirect from debian.com to debian.org in place. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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Bug#819664: Re-organise the CD / download pages to make them more useful
Package: www.debian.org Severity: important As pointed out in https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/201603301121.25333.lisi.re...@gmail.com , we may be giving links to download ISO images but we're not giving *any* useful information about the checksums and signatures for those images in pages like https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ As we're trying to educate users to verify their downloads more, we really need to do better here. For many (most?) people that page is already a wall of text, so just adding more stuff there won't help. >From other discussions with users in debian-user and elsewhere, I think we actually have *too many* pages describing how to download ISOs etc., and it's becoming a pain to keep up with them all and keep them all updated in sync. It's very easy for people to find outdated/misleading/confusing pages that put them off. So, I'd like to suggest a new, much simplified strategy: * *Remove* the direct link on the front page to the multi-arch netinst I'd argue that we *don't* need a direct link on the front page, and it's a dis-service to users who may download it and then not know what to do to verify etc. * Replace that link with a link to a simple "Download" page which gives *simple* instructions and links. This would be similar to what we have at https://www.debian.org/distrib/ , but we also need to re-org that page and make it prettier and clearer, add some graphics etc.: Download Debian === Debian is [ ... ] GRAPHIC 1 GRAPHIC 2 (picture of installer) (picture of desktop) * Download installer * Download live image ===== + (link to m-a netinst?) + link to favoured 64-bit image + link to 64-bit netinst + link to favoured 32-bit image + link to 32-bit netinst + more... (link to page with + more... (link to page with more architecture options, more architecture options, download options, etc.) download options, etc.) (CENTERED, in a box?) GRAPHIC 3 (picture of checksums / padlock etc.) * Verify your download (simple rationale and instructions, link to page with more details) GRAPHIC 4 GRAPHIC 5 (picture of USB stick)(picture of CD/DVD media) * How to write to USB * How to write to optical media === = (simple instructions, (simple instructions, link to pages with more link to pages with more details) details) * Re-organise all the other pages to act as the subsidiary pages mentioned here, removing the redundancy that's biting us and hurting users. Thoughts? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "... the premise [is] that privacy is about hiding a wrong. It's not. Privacy is an inherent human right, and a requirement for maintaining the human condition with dignity and respect." -- Bruce Schneier
Bug#819664: Re-organise the CD / download pages to make them more useful
El 31/03/16 a las 19:09, Steve McIntyre escribió: > Package: www.debian.org > Severity: important > > > * Replace that link with a link to a simple "Download" page which >gives *simple* instructions and links. This would be similar to >what we have at https://www.debian.org/distrib/ , but we also need >to re-org that page and make it prettier and clearer, add some >graphics etc.: > > Download Debian > === > > Debian is [ ... ] > >GRAPHIC 1 GRAPHIC 2 >(picture of installer) (picture of desktop) > * Download installer* Download live image > == === > + (link to m-a netinst?) + link to favoured 64-bit image > + link to 64-bit netinst + link to favoured 32-bit > image > + link to 32-bit netinst > + more... (link to page with + more... (link to page with > more architecture options, more architecture options, > download options, etc.) download options, etc.) > > (CENTERED, in a box?) > GRAPHIC 3 > (picture of checksums / padlock etc.) > * Verify your download > > (simple rationale and instructions, > link to page with more details) > > GRAPHIC 4 GRAPHIC 5 > (picture of USB stick)(picture of CD/DVD media) > * How to write to USB * How to write to optical media > === = > (simple instructions, (simple instructions, > link to pages with more link to pages with more >details) details) > > * Re-organise all the other pages to act as the subsidiary pages >mentioned here, removing the redundancy that's biting us and >hurting users. > > Thoughts? > I like this proposal very much, and I'll put time to make it happen, if others like it too. Best regards -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
Bug#804286: marked as done (wwww.debian.org: Jigdo mirrors)
Your message dated Thu, 31 Mar 2016 18:41:21 + with message-id and subject line Debian WWW CVS commit by djpig fixes #804271 has caused the Debian Bug report #804271, regarding .debian.org: Jigdo mirrors to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact ow...@bugs.debian.org immediately.) -- 804271: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804271 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems --- Begin Message --- Package: .debian.org Severity: wishlist The instructions at https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how are simplicity itself but may I suggest an addition which might enhance the use of jigdo. The advice is At the prompt "Debian mirror", enter http://ftp.XY.debian.org/debian/, where XY is the two-letter code for your country (for example, us, de, uk. See the current list of available ftp.XY.debian.org locations.) Could we alter this to At the prompt "Debian mirror", enter either http://httpredir.debian.org or http://ftp.XY.debian.org/debian/, where XY is the two-letter code for your country (for example, us, de, uk. See the current list of available ftp.XY.debian.org locations). The first mirror is recommended for making best use of your bandwidth. At the moment I am downloading DVD-4 and my line is maxed out. Very impressive. Regards, Brian. -- System Information: Debian Release: 8.2 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- This bug was closed by djpig in the webwml CVS repository: https://www.debian.org/devel/website/using_cvs Note that it might take some time until www.debian.org has been updated. CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml Module name:webwml Changes by: djpig 16/03/31 18:41:20 Added files: russian/News/2013: 20131214.wml Log message: russian translation update Modified files: english/CD/jigdo-cd: index.wml Log message: jigdo-cd: recommend using httpredir.debian.org (Closes: #804271) As suggested by Brian Potkin.--- End Message ---
Bug#804271: marked as done (www,debian.org: Jigdo mirrors)
Your message dated Thu, 31 Mar 2016 18:41:21 + with message-id and subject line Debian WWW CVS commit by djpig fixes #804271 has caused the Debian Bug report #804271, regarding www,debian.org: Jigdo mirrors to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact ow...@bugs.debian.org immediately.) -- 804271: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804271 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems --- Begin Message --- Package: www,debian.org Severity: wishlist The instructions at https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how are simplicity itself but may I suggest an addition which might enhance the use of jigdo. The advice is At the prompt "Debian mirror", enter http://ftp.XY.debian.org/debian/, where XY is the two-letter code for your country (for example, us, de, uk. See the current list of available ftp.XY.debian.org locations.) Could we alter this to At the prompt "Debian mirror", enter either http://httpredir.debian.org or http://ftp.XY.debian.org/debian/, where XY is the two-letter code for your country (for example, us, de, uk. See the current list of available ftp.XY.debian.org locations). The first mirror is recommended for making best use of your bandwidth. At the moment I am downloading DVD-4 and my line is maxed out. Very impressive. Regards, Brian. -- System Information: Debian Release: 8.2 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- This bug was closed by djpig in the webwml CVS repository: https://www.debian.org/devel/website/using_cvs Note that it might take some time until www.debian.org has been updated. CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml Module name:webwml Changes by: djpig 16/03/31 18:41:20 Added files: russian/News/2013: 20131214.wml Log message: russian translation update Modified files: english/CD/jigdo-cd: index.wml Log message: jigdo-cd: recommend using httpredir.debian.org (Closes: #804271) As suggested by Brian Potkin.--- End Message ---
Processed: forcibly merging 722906 818367
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > forcemerge 722906 818367 Bug #722906 [www.debian.org] Document additional methods for validating Debian-distributed files Bug #818367 [www.debian.org] Publish complete CD image signing keys over HTTPS Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' Merged 722906 818367 > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 722906: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=722906 818367: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=818367 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Processed: tagging 757943
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tags 757943 - patch Bug #757943 [www.debian.org] please document the use of wml variables Removed tag(s) patch. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 757943: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757943 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Processed: reassign 495329 to ftp.debian.org
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > # actually nowadays it is ftp-masters job to provide changelogs > reassign 495329 ftp.debian.org Bug #495329 [www.debian.org] ftp.debian.org: (un)availability of package changelogs Bug #679298 [www.debian.org] www.debian.org: Changelog of some packages are not found Bug reassigned from package 'www.debian.org' to 'ftp.debian.org'. Bug reassigned from package 'www.debian.org' to 'ftp.debian.org'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #495329 to the same values previously set Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #679298 to the same values previously set Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #495329 to the same values previously set Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #679298 to the same values previously set > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 495329: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495329 679298: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679298 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Processed: tagging 422074
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > # yes there are no changelogs for binNMUs that is intentional > tags 422074 + wontfix Bug #422074 [www.debian.org] packages.debian.org's changelogs for bin NMUs are broken Added tag(s) wontfix. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 422074: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=422074 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Bug#819664: Re-organise the CD / download pages to make them more useful
Hi, some texts which should be considered: > * Verify your download https://www.debian.org/CD/verify https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify > * How to write to USB https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb > * How to write to optical media https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-unix https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-windows https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-mac The overhaul should already prepare for the announced demise of MD5 and SHA1. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Please trigger website full rebuild (bugs.debian.org: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control does not document "newcomer" tag)
Ping ? Holger Wansing wrote: > > I have committed the fix yesterday, but it is still not visible on the > website. > Could someone trigger a full rebuild of the website, please? > This seems to be needed, to get the fix onto the webpages. -- Created with Sylpheed 3.5.0 under D E B I A N L I N U X 8 . 0 " J E S S I E " . Registered Linux User #311290 - https://linuxcounter.net/
Re: Please trigger website full rebuild (bugs.debian.org: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control does not document "newcomer" tag)
Hi El 31/03/16 a las 23:04, Holger Wansing escribió: > Ping ? > I've had a look at https://www.debian.org/Bugs/index and in that file the newcomer tag is present, but not in server-control I've had a look at the Makefile and I don't understand it very well, but it seems that index is built based on the pckgreport-opts.inc file: index.$(LANGUAGE).html: $(TEMPLDIR)/template.wml $(ENGLISHDIR)/Bugs/footer.inc \ $(ENGLISHDIR)/Bugs/pkgreport-opts.inc and server control not: server-control.$(LANGUAGE).html: $(TEMPLDIR)/template.wml otherpages.inc $(ENGLISHDIR)/Bugs/footer.inc Could this be the reason? I cannot trigger a complete rebuild, but I think that a complete rebuild is done at least once a day? I hope that other www friends can help better than me... Best regards > > > Holger Wansing wrote: >> >> I have committed the fix yesterday, but it is still not visible on the >> website. >> Could someone trigger a full rebuild of the website, please? >> This seems to be needed, to get the fix onto the webpages. > > > > -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
Bug#815202: packages: machines and sponsors information is outdated
Le 29/03/2016 10:31, Frank Lichtenheld a écrit : > On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:26:23 +0800 Paul Wise wrote: >> Some combination of >> the description, purpose, sponsor and allowedGroups LDAP fields should >> be enough to find the right hosts and display the right info. picconi >> and pkgmirror-1and1 are the current hosts for this service. > > Patches welcome ;) > Sorry, it's not a patch... Perhaps the script https://db.debian.org/machines.cgi could be a code base. picconi and pkgmirror-1and1 are listed in this page: """ picconi.debian.org packages.debian.org master [...] pkgmirror-1and1.debian.org packages.debian.org mirror [...] """ I don't know in which repository ./machines.cgi is (at least not in the website repo). -- Stéphane signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#762255: Some thoughts
Hi. I actually started looking into this today to see how much work it would be. Some findings: Writing a parser for DLAs is pretty simple, you can reuse a lot of the stuff in parse-advisory.pl. If someone is interested, I can provide the code. The fun starts when you generate index.wml files. My thought was that DSAs and DLAs should be mixed together since creating a completely separate listing for them sounds silly. But it turns out that DSAs are sorted by number and not by date (why, oh why?) and to change that you actually need to touch get_recent_list (english/templates/debian/recent_list.wml). This function is used everywhere and has a lot of different calling conventions and a lot of weird special handling and is just a horror to touch. Maybe I will find some more motivation to look into it on the weekend. Regards, Frank
Bug#819664: Re-organise the CD / download pages to make them more useful
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:09 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Thoughts? An overhaul of the getting Debian pages is indeed long overdue. Adrian Gibanel had some great ideas about presentation of derivatives stuff on the website, perhaps he has some about reorganising the 'getting Debian' section of the website. Adrian, the initial proposal and discussion is available here: https://bugs.debian.org/819664 I would drop mention of architectures and go with either the multi-arch only ones 64-bit ones or an auto-detection system based on User-Agent, JavaScript etc. I would encourage a review of how the getting/download pages for other operating systems (Windows/Mac/Android variants) and Free Software distributions work. Some ideas around verification and safety of getting Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening/RepoAndImages A couple of other sketches of how getting Debian pages could work: http://get.debian.net/ http://debian-cd.debian.net/ There are some things that are missing from the getting Debian pages: win32-loader https://www.debian.org/blends/ https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHosting Probably the FAQ could be eliminated by addressing most of the entries in the text? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Bug#815202: packages: machines and sponsors information is outdated
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Stéphane Blondon wrote: > I don't know in which repository ./machines.cgi is (at least not in the > website repo). DSA would very much like to kill the existing codebase behind the db.d.o website in favour of a rewrite in django: https://github.com/Debian/ud The existing codebase is available here: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/mirror/userdir-ldap-cgi.git/tree/machines.cgi -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Re: SSL Certificate error on debian.com
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > Do you think it would be useful to have a cert for it despite that? Adam answered off-list: no > There is already a redirect from debian.com to debian.org in place. Adam pointed out off-list that there wasn't for https links. I have fixed this inconsistency in git and it will be live once puppet syncs. https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/mirror/dsa-puppet.git/tree/modules/roles/templates/apache-www.debian.org.erb -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
