Re: Bug#202865: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ not linked from /devel/testing

2003-11-09 Thread Alexander Winston 
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 23:32, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:46:15PM -0500, Alexander Winston wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 22:19, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > --- testing.wml   18 Sep 2003 16:07:07 -  1.17
> > > +++ testing.wml   9 Nov 2003 03:15:20 -
> > > @@ -300,6 +300,10 @@ that are out of date for
> > >   > > href="http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/stable_outdate.txt";>stable 
> > > and
> > >   > > href="http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/unstable_outdate.txt";>unstable.
> > >  
> > > +Björn Stenberg has written a
> > > +http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/";>frontend to help you find out 
> > > why
> > > +packages are being held out of testing.
> > > +
> > >  You might be interested in reading an older
> > >   > > href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0008/msg00906.html";>explanation
> > >  email. Its only major flaw is that it doesn't take the package pool
> > 
> > Front end is two words, but otherwise, I don't see why this should not
> > be added.
> 
> If we're going to quibble about that then it should be hyphenated,
> namely "front-end".

That is the adjective form, though. The noun form should not be
hyphenated.

> To me, "front end" only makes sense if you're
> comfortable talking about the ends of the object in question without the
> "front" or "back" qualifier, as with for example a horse. When applied
> to compilers, interfaces, and other such things then I think that
> "front-end" has specific technical implications and should be
> hyphenated.
> 
> (Of course, the Jargon File and other similar dictionaries seem to use
> the two forms interchangeably, but hey ... I just find the space
> ungainly.)

The Jargon File and similar so-called dictionaries are hardly sources of
profoundness when it comes to the English language.

I hope you'll remember that anything worth doing is worth doing right.


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Re: Bug#202865: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ not linked from /devel/testing

2003-11-09 Thread Colin Watson 
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 11:05:51AM -0500, Alexander Winston wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 23:32, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:46:15PM -0500, Alexander Winston wrote:
> > > Front end is two words, but otherwise, I don't see why this should not
> > > be added.
> > 
> > If we're going to quibble about that then it should be hyphenated,
> > namely "front-end".
> 
> That is the adjective form, though. The noun form should not be
> hyphenated.

The New Oxford Dictionary of English lists:

  front-end: n. Computing; a part of a computer or program that allows
  access to other parts.

The Longman Guide to English Usage says of hyphenation:

  American English tends to use fewer hyphens than British English,
  preferring words to be either separate or solid rather than
  hyphenated.

Since I speak British English and not American English, I shall
respectfully disagree with you here.

> > (Of course, the Jargon File and other similar dictionaries seem to use
> > the two forms interchangeably, but hey ... I just find the space
> > ungainly.)
> 
> The Jargon File and similar so-called dictionaries are hardly sources of
> profoundness when it comes to the English language.

Please note that I only quoted it in order to disagree with it.

> I hope you'll remember that anything worth doing is worth doing right.

I do, and have therefore committed this change with the spelling I
believe to be correct. :-)

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Bug#202865: marked as done (http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ not linked from /devel/testing)

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It's a great resource, I think it should be linked to.

Maybe even it could replace
http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?excuse=foo
since it's more verbose in some situations.


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On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:19:43AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 07:11:30PM +0200, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> > It's a great resource, I think it should be linked to.
> 
> Is there any reason not to just do that?

Committed with a spelling modification as described in the thread on
debian-www.

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Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by srivasta: webwml/english/devel constitution.wml constitu ...

2003-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava 
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:12:31 -0500, James A Treacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 03:09:13PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 06:06:14PM -0700, Debian WWW CVS wrote:
>> > CVSROOT: /cvs/webwml Module name: webwml Changes by: srivasta
>> > 03/10/30 18:06:14
>> >
>> > Modified files:
>> >english/devel : constitution.wml
>> > Added files:
>> >english/devel : constitution.1.1.wml
>>
>> Why is it necessary to have N files for N versions?
>>
>> Maybe it's just me, but why can't the obsoleted versions of the
>> constitution be left in the CVS history (and other archive-like
>> places), rather than littering the devel/ directory?

> Having the old versions around could be useful to see how Debian has
> evolved over the years. I suggest putting the old versions in a
> subdirectory though.

I have no objections to moving superseded, but not redacted,
 versions of the constitution and foundation documents to a subdir (as
 long as the relevant links are updated).

manoj
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