Woody release notes

[paul . ceulemans . pc]

FYI: In the Debian PowerPC section, the woody release notes always gives a file
not found error.

Paul C,

Re:

[Leonardo Leonetti]

Re: update page

[Gerfried Fuchs]

* James A. Treacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-11-29 12:51]:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 03:21:32PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>> * James A. Treacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-11-28 10:26]:
>> > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 12:34:37PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>> >> P.S.: In general, it isn't a must for translators to read this list,
>> >> unfortunately...
>> > 
>> > While we don't enforce the policy, we do state on the translation pages
>> > that translators should subscribe to debian-www.
>> 
>> 
>>   for the difference between MUST and SHOULD
>> 
>> 
> Please don't lecture me on the proper use of English.

 You simply got me wrong.  Sorry for the misunderstanding.

> I used should and I meant should.

 And I used must and meant must.

> Even using the restrictive definitions from rfc2119 I feel that should
> is the proper word.

 For translators in general, yes.  But IMHO not for
translation-coordinators.  YMMV.

> Translators may have a valid reason for not subscribing to debian-www.

 ... which I'm always open to hear.  There is no point in doing an
exception when there is no reason known for it.

>>  I personally would see it rather as a MUST at least for the translation
>> coordinators.
>> 
> Personally, I don't see the point of stating something must be done when
> there is no enforcement,

 So - then let's please remove the advertising statement from the
mailing list description.[1]

> I have added the following sentence to english/devel/website/index.wml:
> Translation coordinators MUST subscribe.

 Thanks, I'm totally happy with that.

 So long,
Alfie

[1] And just to not having anyone get me wrong: This was meant IRONIC,
and *not* as a real statement
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Re:

[lisa]

Re: New version of /intl/l10n/ pages

[James A. Treacy]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 01:14:46AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
> 
> could a webmaster please replace
> /org/www.debian.org/cron/daily_updates/1l10ndata
> on www-master.d.o by this new one?
> Thanks.
> 
Done.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Debian project bug listings

[Grant Bowman]

Hi there,

I was just looking at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ and found no option to
see the Bugs and packages listed that are not real packages.  I think
items in this category would include debian-policy.  I'm presently
hunting for the ftp maintainers package.

I am recommending another line under "The following bug report indices
are available:" to say something like 

  Debian project active and archived bug reports.

Hopefully there is a simple way to query for these unusual and important
packages.  I am willing to help implement this if I can.

Thanks,

--
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Re: Debian project bug listings

[Josip Rodin]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 12:59:12PM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote:
> I was just looking at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ and found no option to
> see the Bugs and packages listed that are not real packages.  I think
> items in this category would include debian-policy.  I'm presently
> hunting for the ftp maintainers package.

That one's called "ftp.debian.org", BTW.

> I am recommending another line under "The following bug report indices
> are available:" to say something like 
> 
>   Debian project active and archived bug reports.
> 
> Hopefully there is a simple way to query for these unusual and important
> packages.  I am willing to help implement this if I can.

Hmm, there's a page that lists those things -- we call them pseudo-packages,
and it's at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages

-- 
 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

korean debian webpages

[Gerfried Fuchs]

Hello there!

 I noticed that the translation of the korean pages is hopelessly
outdated.  Current stats are:

 Language   Translations   Up to date   Outdated   Not translated
Korean (ko) 112 (10%)  12 (1%)   100 (9%) 964 (90%)

 I am wondering what the problem is.  Do you have no time anymore to
uptdate the pages?  Are you the only one in your team?

 Maybe it would be an idea to write a mail to some announce mailinglist
or korean user mailinglist (I'm not aware if there is any) and ask for
some volunteers.  If you personally don't have the time anymore to work
on the translations please let us know so we maybe could find a
replacement or a support for you - but simply fading away is not a good
option

 I'm Cc:ing this mail to the debian-www mailinglist which you must (not
enforced) read as a translation coordinator.  Don't take it as a
personal insult or anything - I truly adore anybody who is helping in
this great project.  Take it merely as a kind reminder to get let us
know where the problem may lie.

 Thank you for your great work so far, of course,
Alfie
-- 
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geringer, als Outlook das Schreiben von vernünftigen Mails beizubringen. ;)
  -- Jens Benecke [2001-06-02]

Re: korean debian webpages

[Josip Rodin]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:07:10PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>  I noticed that the translation of the korean pages is hopelessly
> outdated.

BTW I asked Changwoo Ryu about this today. I'll pass on the answer when I
get it.

-- 
 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

english/releases/index.wml

[Kaare Olsen]

Hi,

/releases/index.wml lists the version of woody as "?.?" - shouldn't we
change it to "3.0" since woody's index.wml says this will be the
version number?

-- 
Regards, Kaare - 

Mail for cdvendors@debian.org?

[Kaare Olsen]

Hi,

Who receive mail for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address?  I know that at
least one Danish CD vendor has sent in his information a few weeks ago,
but no new websites have been added...

-- 
Regards, Kaare - 

Re: english/releases/index.wml

[Josip Rodin]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:14:30PM +0100, Kaare Olsen wrote:
> /releases/index.wml lists the version of woody as "?.?" - shouldn't we
> change it to "3.0" since woody's index.wml says this will be the
> version number?

I was planning to do so myself, actually. Feel free to do it yourself.

-- 
 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: Mail for cdvendors@debian.org?

[Josip Rodin]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:28:59PM +0100, Kaare Olsen wrote:
> Who receive mail for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address?  I know that at
> least one Danish CD vendor has sent in his information a few weeks ago,
> but no new websites have been added...

Craig Small + the rest of webmaster@, but the rest don't read it :)

-- 
 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: english/releases/index.wml

[Kaare Olsen]

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:34:46 +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:

>On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:14:30PM +0100, Kaare Olsen wrote:
>> /releases/index.wml lists the version of woody as "?.?" - shouldn't we
>> change it to "3.0" since woody's index.wml says this will be the
>> version number?
>
>I was planning to do so myself, actually. Feel free to do it yourself.

Done.  I won't do a "mass update", though.  Someone feel free to do
that. :-)

-- 
Regards, Kaare - 

Sorting of the CD vendors country list

[Kaare Olsen]

Hi,

Something else regarding the CD vendors page:  The country list in the
English version isn't sorted properly (it's more or less sorted
according to the country codes) - may I fix that?

-- 
Regards, Kaare - 

Re: Sorting of the CD vendors country list

[Kaare Olsen]

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:50:29 +0100 (CET), Kaare Olsen wrote:

>The country list in the English version isn't sorted properly (it's more or 
>less sorted
>according to the country codes) - may I fix that?

On close inspection I can't really tell what principle was used.  It
definitely needs fixing!

-- 
Regards, Kaare - 

Re: Debian project bug listings

[Grant Bowman]

* Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011130 13:01]:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 12:59:12PM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote:
> > I was just looking at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ and found no option to
> > see the Bugs and packages listed that are not real packages.  I think
> > items in this category would include debian-policy.  I'm presently
> > hunting for the ftp maintainers package.
> 
> That one's called "ftp.debian.org", BTW.

Thanks.
 
> > I am recommending another line under "The following bug report indices
> > are available:" to say something like 
> > 
> >   Debian project active and archived bug reports.
> > 
> > Hopefully there is a simple way to query for these unusual and important
> > packages.  I am willing to help implement this if I can.
> 
> Hmm, there's a page that lists those things -- we call them pseudo-packages,
> and it's at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages

Wonderful!  I knew this had to exist and I've seen that page before, I just 
couldn't find it.

Then this request becomes a simple one, just add a link and a clear description
from /Bugs/ to the pseudo-packages.

Thanks for your help,

--
-- Grant Bowman   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Woody release notes

[Chris Tillman]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:20:56AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> FYI: In the Debian PowerPC section, the woody release notes always gives a 
> file
> not found error.
> 
> Paul C,

That link is not valid because the notes are not available yet.

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Bug#121891: www.debian.org/News/weekly/ doesn't display correct language

[Adam Heath]

Package: www.debian.org

I use Mozilla.  'en-us' is configured as my language.  If I browse
http://www.debian.org/, or /News/, I get english pages.  however, if I go to
$subject, I get something else.

I have no idea what language this is:

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[maafe sumany]

dear sir,

Compliment of the season to you, I write to solicite
your favour not minding that we have not known each
other before  puting this proposal to you.

In brief introduction, I am MR. HARRY KONGOLO son of
MR.KONGOLO SESE SEKO a senior brother of the late
EX-ZAIREAN President MOBUTU SESE SEKO.

Presently, we are in ACCRA-GHANA WEST-AFRICA in the
status of refugee. My late father recently passed away
three month ago after a terrible ill health
here in Ghana. 

However, I got your contact from a leading trade
magazine in which your business organization was
advertised. 

Again to be precise and straight to you, my father
was unable to face the advancing rebel forces of the
former President Laurent Kabila. That was why we
flew to Ghana on exile, where terrible ill health
really put my father in sick bed for three months and
knowing of his health standard he me keys of
boxses containing  the sum of USD$37,Million(Thirty
Seven Million United States Dollars)which he deposited
with a security company for safe keeping.

NOTE:

I am contacting you based on conveying the money for
me and my family, to a more politicaly stable country
like yours and I will appreciate your effort
in searching and recommend some viable investment
areas in your country for joint partnership with you.

I promise to offer you whatever amount of percentage
up to 25% of your desire as commission as soon as you
are able to prove to us your ability to
convey this money and your trustworthy partner to
us, when this money will be under your care, because
we are not at all knowledgeable in the business
environment. 

Please, mail or telephone me introducing yourself
and your business intrest to enable us know ourselves
and discuss further on how to meet. Further, you
ill be furnished with the particulars regarding the
deposit of the boxesas soon as I read from you of your
intrest. Please I will also appreciate your
confidentiality in the whole transaction as the hope
of the family is hanged on this. 

Finaly, I believe that you will accept this proposal
in good faith and provide immediate response. 

Thanking you for anticipated co-operation and
understanding. 

Best Regards. 
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Bug#121891: marked as done (www.debian.org/News/weekly/ doesn't display correct language)

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I use Mozilla.  'en-us' is configured as my language.  If I browse
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$subject, I get something else.

I have no idea what language this is:

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* Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-11-30 16:33]:
> I use Mozilla.  'en-us' is configured as my language.

 Please read  about why you
*don't* want to just have en-us as language but en at least
additionally.  That's how content negotiation works.

 Btw - is this still the default for current mozilla?  It was filed as
bugreport against mozilla some time back and closed already...  Maybe
it's time to reopen it?  Can you please check that?

 Thanks,
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Bug#120848: marked as done (www.debian.org: http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/index.en-us.html missing)

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Subject: Re: Bug#121891: www.debian.org/News/weekly/ doesn't display correct 
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* Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-11-30 16:33]:
> I use Mozilla.  'en-us' is configured as my language.

 Please read  about why you
*don't* want to just have en-us as language but en at least
additionally.  That's how content negotiation works.

 Btw - is this still the default for current mozilla?  It was filed as
bugreport against mozilla some time back and closed already...  Maybe
it's time to reopen it?  Can you please check that?

 Thanks,
Alfie [closing it]
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