Re: contact address for anti-harassment policies
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 20:15, Don Armstrong wrote: > I would hate for someone to not report harassment occurring because > they felt that a contact address was inappropriate for the type of > harassment that they received (or perhaps had the appearance of > associated with the agent of harassment.[1]) > > Furthermore, I think a @debian.org alias sends a message that > harassment is something that the entire project finds objectionable, > whereas one at a subdomain indicates that only that subset may find it > objectionable. +1 for the @d.o address. Additionally, could the debian (or debian-women) website also list the people that would receive those mails. IME, quite often the intent is in the right place, but if there is no follow-up action, a victim can lose faith soon. -- Regards, vid ॥ http://svaksha.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinaacysvd7to6fpf_fduwwyjmx1jbe7zl2ho...@mail.gmail.com
Re: contact address for anti-harassment policies
On Tuesday 14 December 2010 02:02:02 Francesca Ciceri wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:15:31PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > A reasonable role address which came to my mind is > > > "antiharassm...@women.d.o". > > > > As a few others have already stated, I think it would be ideal to have > > an overall alias for this, with possible additional aliases > > @women.debian.org. > > > > I would hate for someone to not report harassment occurring because > > they felt that a contact address was inappropriate for the type of > > harassment that they received (or perhaps had the appearance of > > associated with the agent of harassment.[1]) > > > > Furthermore, I think a @debian.org alias sends a message that > > harassment is something that the entire project finds objectionable, > > whereas one at a subdomain indicates that only that subset may find it > > objectionable. > > > > > > Don Armstrong > > > > 1: After all, even sexual harassment doesn't necessarily follow > > heteronormative roles. > > +1 > > I completely agree with Don. > > Francesca +1 Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012141523.39772.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: contact address for anti-harassment policies
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote: > +1 again, though I don't really buy Don's argument that harassment > doesn't necessarily follow the usual heteronormative roles. In 99.9% > percent of cases, it probably does. This is actually a misconception that occurs occasionally, which often leads to the marginalization of individuals who are affected by it. In the US in 2009, 16% of sexual harassment charges in the workplace were filed by men[1]; an earlier telephone poll in 2008 indicated that half of sexual harassment reported by males was from males, the other half from females.[2] Don Armstrong 1: http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/sexual_harassment.cfm 2: http://www.sexualharassmentsupport.org/SHworkplace.html -- Everyone has to die. And in a hundred years nobody's going to inquire just how most people died. The best thing is to do it in the way that strikes your fancy most. -- Kenzaburō Ōe _Silent Cry_ p5 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101214212652.gf3...@rzlab.ucr.edu
Re: contact address for anti-harassment policies
Don Armstrong wrote: >On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> A reasonable role address which came to my mind is >> "antiharassm...@women.d.o". > >As a few others have already stated, I think it would be ideal to have >an overall alias for this, with possible additional aliases >@women.debian.org. > >I would hate for someone to not report harassment occurring because >they felt that a contact address was inappropriate for the type of >harassment that they received (or perhaps had the appearance of >associated with the agent of harassment.[1]) > >Furthermore, I think a @debian.org alias sends a message that >harassment is something that the entire project finds objectionable, >whereas one at a subdomain indicates that only that subset may find it >objectionable. Absolutely. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "C++ ate my sanity" -- Jon Rabone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1psfyr-0004wg...@jack.mossbank.org.uk
