Re: typo in constitution.
I originally posted this to -devel and -www, some (5?) hours ago, after talking to Josip Rodin (Joy) on IRC, we both decided that the best thing was to just go ahead and fix it in the wml (website). I am sending it to -devel, and -www, because I originally posted there, to secretary, and to -vote on his advice, for archival purposes. We both agree that this does not in any way change the spirit/meaning of the document. I will fix/commit in the webwml shortly after posting, changes will be evident later. I don't really think anyone should object, but of course email me if you think for some reason this should not be fixed, and sorry for the big cross-post :). - brian. On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 09:53:23PM -1000, Brian Russo wrote: > sorry for the crosspost. > > there's a typo in the constitution, at least both copies I have. > I noticed it going over the website, it's present like this in the > constitution in the doc-debian package also. > > I would have just fixed/committed but I wasn't sure if this > was really Ok to do in this case. > > Section A.1. Discussion and Amendment, 6. > > 6.The proposer of a resolution may make changes to correct minor > errors (for example, typographical errors or inconsistencies) or > changes which do not alter the meaning, providing noone objects > within 24 hours. In this case the mininum discussion period is not > restarted. > > s/the mininum/the minimum/, in the last sentence. > > Kind of ironic considering this bit is dealing with how to handle > typographical errors. > > anyway, what should i do? > > -brian. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG ID: 54D81666 Debian/GNU OS: http://www.debian.org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> magnus frater spectat te - encrypt whenever possible -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leader vote coming up soon
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote-0102/msg7.html did bdale silently withdraw his nomination? On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 03:57:24AM -, Raul Miller wrote: > As has previously been announced > (http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote-0102/msg4.html), polls for the > debian leader election will open March 7. The nominees should currently > be campaigning. > > We have nominations for: > > Branden Robinson > Ben Collins > Anand Kumria > > I'll be posting a ballot soon. > > Thanks, > > - -- > Raul > -- *** Brian T Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | wolfie | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- it's where we go off in a corner and sob quietly hoping no americans notice -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:15:19PM +, Jules Bean wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature > > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a > > > sacrifice I'm willing to make. > > > > It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the > > word "sacrifice" here. > > Yes, that's a correct diagnosis. It was indeed humour. > > Heaven forbid a DPL with a sense of humour ;) Fraternal Debian Droids, When Elected Leader I will.. Kill all humans! err. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Branden Robinson wrote: > > [please follow-up to [EMAIL PROTECTED]] > No, follow-up to debian-vote, it was created for this purpose. seconded. > > I cannot at present find a canonical list of current delegates. > I'm offline at the moment and the exact URL escapes me, but this list is > on www.debian.org and was created about 2 yaers ago. http://www.debian.org/intro/organization is the one I believe you think of. > > As DPL, I'd like to see this channel's status officially recognized, and a > > position on the two subjects above formally stated. If #debian-devel is > > not to be substantively different from #debian, that is fine; a new channel > > can be created to serve the needs that (in my opinion) #debian-devel > > currently does, and with some access controls in place. > > I'll object to this. #debian-devel should be like the debian-devel list: > open for developers, not closed. That is the way it has been since the > very beginning and I hate to see that change. Make #debian-private if > you want. #debian-private does exist, but nobody goes in there. the channel description reads: Description: This channel is only for Debian Developers + NM Applicants + Mirror Admins + OPN Gods + people vouched for by one of the previous groups Which I disagree with. I think it should be Debian Developers *only*. Basically look after it the same way you look after -private. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:34:14PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Santiago> I can't accept that "people truly deserve to be insulted". > > Hmm. How about if we rephrase that "There are certain people > who display personality and behaviour traits that are extremely > irritating to a majority of the general population, and indeed, would > elicit emotionally heated responses from the nominal human being > exposed to the subject under discussion". let's just get a lawyer to draft something for us. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 04:15:29PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > >>>>> "Anthony" == Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Anthony> Hi guys, Some questions, which you might or might not > Anthony> like to answer.. > > I have a question I would like to ask too. Some people may think it is > not relevant to this mailing list, but I have seen complaints that not > enough is being done in this area by the project as a whole. > > * what release of Debian will come standard with IPv6 support? >woody+1? Woody+2? What goals (if any) should be set along the way? ObVote, It seems the principal task here would be to effectively identify just which applications (packages) are affected by IP4->IP6, I anticipate that you'd find a long list of these.. (quirky dns resolution.. etc) - brian. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ballot bounced
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:21:25PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Raul Miller wrote: > > > > It looks like ~maor/dinstall/debian-keyring.gpg hasn't changed since > > > April 2000. Is the intent to prevent maintainers who are not around > > > for at least a year from voting or is this a bug? > > > > It's worse than that. > > The cannonical location of the keyring on all debian.org machines is > /org/kering.debian.org/ At the risk of stating the obvious typo: /org/keyring.debian.org/ -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [BALLOT] Leader Election 2001
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:17:58AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On 8 Mar 2001, Acting Debian Project Secretary wrote: > > > NOTES: > > > > [*] You must email your ballot from your debian.org email address. > Hmmm, that might be the problem why my first E-Mail was rejected. > But is this really necessary? All my E-Mail addresses are assigned > to the key inside the debian keyring. > I consider it to be hard to sign my key manually scp it to master and > than mail it from there. The policy in our institute requires my > internal address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as sender. > > If I'm the only one who is bothered by this requirement just forget it. > If there are more people who don't like this "feature" we should try > to change it if there isn't any security issue. Signing it AND sending it from @d.o address seems quite redundant. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vote Tallied
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:20:14PM +0100, Sven LUTHER wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 07:56:49PM -0800, Darren O. Benham wrote: > > Ok, > > > > I fixed that part of the code. All future votes will be tallied correctly. > > The entire ballot box is saved. Shortly, I'll run the mails through the > > vote-take script again. EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE who has voted will > > receive a SECOND confirmation in the next couple of days. If the second > > confirmation is STILL wrong, please let us know. > > how can we know it is wrong (well know for sure, as different from having the > suspision ?) > > if the ballot is listed as 1234 for example, does this correspond to voting > for all 4 candidates and not having filled the further discution, or does it > correspond to having voted for everyone except the first candidate. > > Or should it have been a ballot of -1234 or 1234- ? > > Anyway, i guess my ballot was also wrongly acounted, but i will wait for the > second confirmation now, ... CONSPIRACY!! I demand a manual recount.. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vote Tallied
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 09:26:37PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 02:14:26AM -1000, Brian Russo wrote: > > CONSPIRACY!! > > I demand a manual recount.. > > Aside: check out www.gwbush.com. Cheesy, but there's a few > funny bits. Like the bumper stickers: "One Person, > One Vote (may not apply in some states)", and "Don't Blame > Me, I voted with the Majority." :-) hehe, i like http://www.billionairesforbushorgore.com/ -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:38:02AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:51:11PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 09:24:45AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > > I would certainly not like to vote for someone who just said "I'll > > > support whatever the project supports", since that would not be a > > > "leader" at all, but a follower :) > > > > Strange enough, this is what the constitution expects the leader to do. > > > > 5.3. Procedure > > > >The Project Leader should attempt to make decisions which are > >consistent with the consensus of the opinions of the Developers. > > > >Where practical the Project Leader should informally solicit the views > >of the Developers. > > > >The Project Leader should avoid overemphasizing their own point of > >view when making decisions in their capacity as Leader. > > > > I would certainly not vote a candidate who is not familiar with this > > paragraph of the constitution, or who is not willing to follow it. > > You misunderstand. Having an opinion and trying to "lead" the project does > not mean overriding the Developers' final decisions. Obviously the DPL > can have one opinion, and lobby for one result, while still making > decisions based on what the developers wish. is this just a euphemism for "pandering to the mob" ? i.e. no conviction in your beliefs. sure, dpl should weigh developers decisions, no doubt there. but the way you say "making decisions based on what the developers wish", i interpret that to mean he will essentially translate their desires => his actions, which is not necessarily good. perhaps you really meant "weigh the desires of the developers carefully/heavily" ? -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: And the winner is...
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 07:47:47AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > Ok, voting is over, Ben Collins is our new leader. > > Here's how people voted: it's pretty much a moot point now, but people will likely have it on their mind. from constitution, ... 5.2. Appointment ... 5. The next three weeks are the polling period during which Developers may cast their votes. Votes in leadership elections are kept secret, even after the election is finished. P.S good idea putting the 'please think before replying' in To.. although it would have been amusing to have a thread start on d-d-a.. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: typo in constitution.
I originally posted this to -devel and -www, some (5?) hours ago, after talking to Josip Rodin (Joy) on IRC, we both decided that the best thing was to just go ahead and fix it in the wml (website). I am sending it to -devel, and -www, because I originally posted there, to secretary, and to -vote on his advice, for archival purposes. We both agree that this does not in any way change the spirit/meaning of the document. I will fix/commit in the webwml shortly after posting, changes will be evident later. I don't really think anyone should object, but of course email me if you think for some reason this should not be fixed, and sorry for the big cross-post :). - brian. On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 09:53:23PM -1000, Brian Russo wrote: > sorry for the crosspost. > > there's a typo in the constitution, at least both copies I have. > I noticed it going over the website, it's present like this in the > constitution in the doc-debian package also. > > I would have just fixed/committed but I wasn't sure if this > was really Ok to do in this case. > > Section A.1. Discussion and Amendment, 6. > > 6.The proposer of a resolution may make changes to correct minor > errors (for example, typographical errors or inconsistencies) or > changes which do not alter the meaning, providing noone objects > within 24 hours. In this case the mininum discussion period is not > restarted. > > s/the mininum/the minimum/, in the last sentence. > > Kind of ironic considering this bit is dealing with how to handle > typographical errors. > > anyway, what should i do? > > -brian. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG ID: 54D81666 Debian/GNU OS: http://www.debian.org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> magnus frater spectat te - encrypt whenever possible
Re: Leader vote coming up soon
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote-0102/msg7.html did bdale silently withdraw his nomination? On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 03:57:24AM -, Raul Miller wrote: > As has previously been announced > (http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote-0102/msg4.html), polls for the > debian leader election will open March 7. The nominees should currently > be campaigning. > > We have nominations for: > > Branden Robinson > Ben Collins > Anand Kumria > > I'll be posting a ballot soon. > > Thanks, > > - -- > Raul > -- *** Brian T Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | wolfie | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- it's where we go off in a corner and sob quietly hoping no americans notice -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:15:19PM +, Jules Bean wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature > > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a > > > sacrifice I'm willing to make. > > > > It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the > > word "sacrifice" here. > > Yes, that's a correct diagnosis. It was indeed humour. > > Heaven forbid a DPL with a sense of humour ;) Fraternal Debian Droids, When Elected Leader I will.. Kill all humans! err. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:02:42PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Branden Robinson wrote: > > [please follow-up to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > No, follow-up to debian-vote, it was created for this purpose. seconded. > > I cannot at present find a canonical list of current delegates. > I'm offline at the moment and the exact URL escapes me, but this list is > on www.debian.org and was created about 2 yaers ago. http://www.debian.org/intro/organization is the one I believe you think of. > > As DPL, I'd like to see this channel's status officially recognized, and a > > position on the two subjects above formally stated. If #debian-devel is > > not to be substantively different from #debian, that is fine; a new channel > > can be created to serve the needs that (in my opinion) #debian-devel > > currently does, and with some access controls in place. > > I'll object to this. #debian-devel should be like the debian-devel list: > open for developers, not closed. That is the way it has been since the > very beginning and I hate to see that change. Make #debian-private if > you want. #debian-private does exist, but nobody goes in there. the channel description reads: Description: This channel is only for Debian Developers + NM Applicants + Mirror Admins + OPN Gods + people vouched for by one of the previous groups Which I disagree with. I think it should be Debian Developers *only*. Basically look after it the same way you look after -private. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:34:14PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Santiago> I can't accept that "people truly deserve to be insulted". > > Hmm. How about if we rephrase that "There are certain people > who display personality and behaviour traits that are extremely > irritating to a majority of the general population, and indeed, would > elicit emotionally heated responses from the nominal human being > exposed to the subject under discussion". let's just get a lawyer to draft something for us. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: ballot bounced
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:21:25PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Raul Miller wrote: > > > > It looks like ~maor/dinstall/debian-keyring.gpg hasn't changed since > > > April 2000. Is the intent to prevent maintainers who are not around > > > for at least a year from voting or is this a bug? > > > > It's worse than that. > > The cannonical location of the keyring on all debian.org machines is > /org/kering.debian.org/ At the risk of stating the obvious typo: /org/keyring.debian.org/ -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [BALLOT] Leader Election 2001
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:17:58AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On 8 Mar 2001, Acting Debian Project Secretary wrote: > > > NOTES: > > > > [*] You must email your ballot from your debian.org email address. > Hmmm, that might be the problem why my first E-Mail was rejected. > But is this really necessary? All my E-Mail addresses are assigned > to the key inside the debian keyring. > I consider it to be hard to sign my key manually scp it to master and > than mail it from there. The policy in our institute requires my > internal address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as sender. > > If I'm the only one who is bothered by this requirement just forget it. > If there are more people who don't like this "feature" we should try > to change it if there isn't any security issue. Signing it AND sending it from @d.o address seems quite redundant. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: Vote Tallied
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 12:20:14PM +0100, Sven LUTHER wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 07:56:49PM -0800, Darren O. Benham wrote: > > Ok, > > > > I fixed that part of the code. All future votes will be tallied correctly. > > The entire ballot box is saved. Shortly, I'll run the mails through the > > vote-take script again. EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE who has voted will > > receive a SECOND confirmation in the next couple of days. If the second > > confirmation is STILL wrong, please let us know. > > how can we know it is wrong (well know for sure, as different from having the > suspision ?) > > if the ballot is listed as 1234 for example, does this correspond to voting > for all 4 candidates and not having filled the further discution, or does it > correspond to having voted for everyone except the first candidate. > > Or should it have been a ballot of -1234 or 1234- ? > > Anyway, i guess my ballot was also wrongly acounted, but i will wait for the > second confirmation now, ... CONSPIRACY!! I demand a manual recount.. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: Vote Tallied
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 09:26:37PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 02:14:26AM -1000, Brian Russo wrote: > > CONSPIRACY!! > > I demand a manual recount.. > > Aside: check out www.gwbush.com. Cheesy, but there's a few > funny bits. Like the bumper stickers: "One Person, > One Vote (may not apply in some states)", and "Don't Blame > Me, I voted with the Majority." :-) hehe, i like http://www.billionairesforbushorgore.com/ -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:38:02AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:51:11PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 09:24:45AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > > I would certainly not like to vote for someone who just said "I'll > > > support whatever the project supports", since that would not be a > > > "leader" at all, but a follower :) > > > > Strange enough, this is what the constitution expects the leader to do. > > > > 5.3. Procedure > > > >The Project Leader should attempt to make decisions which are > >consistent with the consensus of the opinions of the Developers. > > > >Where practical the Project Leader should informally solicit the views > >of the Developers. > > > >The Project Leader should avoid overemphasizing their own point of > >view when making decisions in their capacity as Leader. > > > > I would certainly not vote a candidate who is not familiar with this > > paragraph of the constitution, or who is not willing to follow it. > > You misunderstand. Having an opinion and trying to "lead" the project does > not mean overriding the Developers' final decisions. Obviously the DPL > can have one opinion, and lobby for one result, while still making > decisions based on what the developers wish. is this just a euphemism for "pandering to the mob" ? i.e. no conviction in your beliefs. sure, dpl should weigh developers decisions, no doubt there. but the way you say "making decisions based on what the developers wish", i interpret that to mean he will essentially translate their desires => his actions, which is not necessarily good. perhaps you really meant "weigh the desires of the developers carefully/heavily" ? -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: And the winner is...
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 07:47:47AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > Ok, voting is over, Ben Collins is our new leader. > > Here's how people voted: it's pretty much a moot point now, but people will likely have it on their mind. from constitution, ... 5.2. Appointment ... 5. The next three weeks are the polling period during which Developers may cast their votes. Votes in leadership elections are kept secret, even after the election is finished. P.S good idea putting the 'please think before replying' in To.. although it would have been amusing to have a thread start on d-d-a.. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 04:15:29PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > >>>>> "Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes: > > Anthony> Hi guys, Some questions, which you might or might not > Anthony> like to answer.. > > I have a question I would like to ask too. Some people may think it is > not relevant to this mailing list, but I have seen complaints that not > enough is being done in this area by the project as a whole. > > * what release of Debian will come standard with IPv6 support? >woody+1? Woody+2? What goals (if any) should be set along the way? ObVote, It seems the principal task here would be to effectively identify just which applications (packages) are affected by IP4->IP6, I anticipate that you'd find a long list of these.. (quirky dns resolution.. etc) - brian. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
