Re: Gnome 2 and window manager selection?
Back when I used to use Gnome, I used it with Sawfish. It was the lightest gnome-compliant WM around. Check your /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager Of course there may be a typo someplace... you might want to search /etc/... for 'elightenment' ;-) According to Todd Pytel, > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:27:02 -0400 > stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ah, .xsession-errors has a clue. It's trying (and failing) to run > > /usr/bin/elightenment,a Acording to dselect, this is not installed. > > Should I install it? If I have a choice, I think I like sawfish, at > > least from the breif glances I've seen so far. > > Hey, enlightenment was the bomb back in the day... like, 5 years ago. So > I'd say no. I don't understand what's trying to load it, though. Was > this basically a fresh install or did you upgrade the box? Probably, > enlightenment is being loaded from /home/.xinitrc or /home/.xsession. > I would suggest removing .xinitrc and putting the single line > > exec gnome-session > > in .xsession. If that doesn't work, then there are deeply bizarre things > happening. > > -- > Todd Pytel > > > Signature attached > PGP Key ID 77B1C00C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /!\ Probleme d IRQ en pcmcia /!\
It looks to me like there's no IRQ available. Perhaps you could disable some built-in hardware that you are not using? Examples might be: parallel port, serial ports, build-in audio. This is done in the BIOS (i.e. at reboot). According to REBERT Luc, > Bonjour, > J'ai un dell latitude C840 et j'ai de gros probleme avec l irq de mes cartes > pcmcia, le syst?me n'arrive pas a les attribuer, j'ai une erreur d?s l > insertion de mon adapteur compactflash et de ma carte wireless ... > Si quelqu'un avait une petite idee pour r?soudre ce gros probleme ! > > Oct 9 17:26:58 Latitude kernel: ide_cs: ide_register() at 0x100 & 0x10e, irq > 0 failed > Oct 9 17:27:26 Latitude kernel: hde: TOSHIBA THNCF128MMA, CFA DISK drive > Oct 9 17:27:26 Latitude kernel: hde: IRQ probe failed (0x20f8) > Oct 9 17:27:26 Latitude kernel: hdf: IRQ probe failed (0x20f8) > Oct 9 17:27:26 Latitude kernel: hdf: IRQ probe failed (0x20f8) > Oct 9 17:27:26 Latitude kernel: ide2: DISABLED, NO IRQ > Oct 9 17:27:40 Latitude kernel: ide_cs: ide_register() at 0x110 & 0x11e, irq > 0 failed > Oct 9 17:27:40 Latitude kernel: Trying to free nonexistent resource > <0110-011f> > > > Un grand merci d'avance ! > > Burnkey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easing the load.
; programming direction to security. It would also create a > resource for such entities as Debian Weekly; > > > > There are other things that could be put forward as viable reasons for > the establishment of a list of this nature. I have only elaborated to > the extent that I have to illustrate the productive potential of this > venture, and the associated value it could present to the Debian > project, so as to avoid the hasty labeling of the situation as 'vanity > or offtopic.' > > > Interested Audience. > > > I'm sure that the number of O.T. threads in the lists are indicative of > the ability of this new list to establish and maintain itself. The > requirement is stated by the activity. > > > Also, after subsequent filing of the request to 'wishlist', others > interested in this situation could send a mail to the bug to register > interest. Details for this to be supplied in a subsequent mailing after > this initial stage is complete. > > > .. > > > NAME. > > > This is open to suggestion at this stage. > > Some possibilities might be:- Debian- wholistic, debian-adjunct, or > whatever is felt to have application. > > > RATIONALE. > > > All of the above under the heading 'Basic Purpose' and more would be > applicable here. > > > SHORT DESCRIPTION. > > > Open to suggestion. > > > LONG DESCRIPTION. > > > Open to suggestion. > > > CATEGORY. > > > I would suggest 'Other' here, but again, open to suggestion. > > > SUBSCRIPTION POLICY. > > > Open. > > > POST POLICY. > > > I would suggest moderated here, principally because of potential > content. > > I would suggest a minimum of three moderators who would have to be > agreed as regards potential or actual unsubscription. > > Any volunteers for moderators? > > > WEB ARCHIVE. > > > I think the answer is no for this one. Not that I don't think that some > of the threads wouldn't deserve archiving, but I think that server space > must be given to Debian proper as a priority. > > Those that were interested in a particular thread could save it to a > mail folder/directory in transit. But again, open to suggestion. > > > Thoughts? > > > Regards, > > > David. > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Tony Godshall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: All mozilla-based browsers crash on some sites
According to Allan Wind, > On 2004-11-30T11:25:38+0100, Juergen Neumann wrote: > > Have you ore anyone else found a solution for this problem yet? > > Do you have flash installed? It seems you have choice between one that > cause 100% cpu utilization (swf-player) or crashing > (libflash-mozplugin.so). Installing Flash Click-To-Run can help troubleshoot this. Plus it blocks Flash which is a good thing at least 95% of the time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rescue disk
According to Hugo Vanwoerkom, > George Iordanou wrote: > >I want to create a rescue disk. I went to debian's official webpage > >and i downloaded the unstable version which consists of the following > >files: > > > >boot.img > >cd-drivers.img > >net-drivers.img > >root.img > > > >How can i create a bootable rescue disk? I want to get into my system > >using the floppy's kernel. > > > > Is a bootable rescue CD OK? mkrescue is part of Lilo and creates either > floppies or CD with "mkrescue --iso", which iso your burn with cdrecord. > > I modified mkrescue --iso, which is a script, to come up with a menu > that actually says which partition is going to boot, rather than "Linux". > > Booting that CD gives you the option of using the partition you ran > mkrescue from or what is on the MBR ("harddisk"). Sounds handy. Can you post a patch? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD 64 with woody or sarge
According to Tim Kelley, > On Thursday 16 December 2004 10:38, Nick Miller wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > I am wondering what experiences, positive or negative, you all have had > > running woody or sarge with AMD's line of 754 & 939 64bit processors. I > > would really like to push my company to replace some of our lower end > > servers with systems built around these chips. > > Well, I think they're great systems, and it's about time, but ... > > unless you're running into the limits of 32 bits sytems (like 1GB memory > max), > there isn't a truly compelling argument to running the 64 bit system. > > On the other hand, it will be faster than almost any other "pc" processor, > and > they aren't terribly expensive, so ... Well, the I/O is supposed to be much much better. Except that the low-end motherboards apparently don't implement it right. I think specific motherboard experience reports would be welcome here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and Dell?
According to Vincent Lefevre, > On 2004-12-15 22:30:34 -0500, Ed Sutherland wrote: > > I just purchased a Dell for my home office and am interested in using > > Debian on a partition. As my only Linux experience comes from a Mac, I > > have some questions: > [...] > > First, you should have asked if Debian was supported. With recent > Dell machines, like the GX280, you need to recompile a kernel so > that Ethernet is supported, and concerning XFree86, the official > Debian package doesn't support the new chipset (i915). I had to use nVidia's proprietary driver to get video up to full width on mine. And the ethernet was quirky too (I forget what I had to do). I'd have gone with HP if only they had a competitive display (1920x1200) since HP is way more Debian-friendly than Dell. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pdf printing
According to [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > Using xpdf when you tell it to print, it displays a dialog, in a textbox is > lpr > remove the r to obtain lp which is the cups command to print and it works > Have a good day I use 'lpr filename.pdf' and it just works. I'm not sure the mechanism, but I do have these installed... ii apsfilter 7.2.6-1Magic print filter with automatic file type recognition ii foomatic-filters 3.0.2-20050114-1 linuxprinting.org printer support - filters ii foomatic-filters-ppds 20050121-1 linuxprinting.org printer support - prebuilt PPD files ii foomatic-gui 0.7.4.8GNOME interface for configuring the Foomatic printer filter ii cupsys 1.1.23-7 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server ii cupsys-bsd 1.1.23-7 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands ii cupsys-client 1.1.23-7 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client programs (SysV) ii cupsys-driver-gimpprint4.2.7-5 Gimp-Print printer drivers for CUPS ii cupsys-driver-gimpprint-data 4.2.7-5 Gimp-Print printer drivers for CUPS ii cupsys-pt 1.2.4-3Tool for viewing/managing print jobs under CUPS I don't know what the magical minimal combo is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rediscovering hardware
According to Tom Allison, > Tony Godshall wrote: > >According to Tom Allison, > > > >>Tony Godshall wrote: > >> > >>>According to Kent West, > >>> > >>> > >>>>Tom Allison wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Hello, > >>>>> > >>>>>I replaced my motherboard after an accident. > >>>>> > >>>>>Everything mostly works, but a lot of the on board hardware (sound in > >>>>>particular) isn't the same as the old board. > >>>>> > >>>>>I know the installation process (sarge installer) does a great job > >>>>>finding out what I have and setting it up. > >>>>> > >>>>>How can I "re-discover" the hardware on this machine and remove/add > >>>>>modules accordingly? > > > > > > >>While systems may do some kind of auto-detect of the hardware when they > >>start, I find it difficult to believe that they would actually go > >>through and rebuild the modules conf files at every boot (auto config > >>rather then auto-detect). > > > > > >1. comment out everything in /etc/modules (those entries > >have nothing to do with this system) > > > > I already have discover installed. IFAIK it came with the initial > installation (sarge installer RC2 based) and has been there ever since. > > I should expect discover to rebuild the modules.conf file? > (sounds like "Yes"). That is not its function. Its function is to match pci self-identification ids to kernel modules and load them. At the top of my modules.conf, I have this line... ### This file is automatically generated by update-modules" modules.conf is rebuild by update-modules, which is run automagically when you install kernel modules from a debian package. If you install kernel modules manually, you need to run update-modules manually. > I take it discover is not able (ever or yet) to modify the modules.conf > file based on new/different hardware detected? This is a bit of a > stretch and won't apply to 99% of the userbase, but I just thought I > would ask. discover is not intended to update modules.conf. It doesn't AFAIK change any config files at all. Discover runs typ. after /etc/modules is processed and so whatever you customize is not affected. But I'm no expert here: I've not had much need to customize because I've had good luck by updating kernels and discover anytime some new card doesn't work... if the kernel supports it discover has generally been able to load the right module. -- Tony Godshall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rediscovering hardware
According to Tom Allison, > > >> I should expect discover to rebuild the modules.conf file? > >> (sounds like "Yes"). > >> I take it discover is not able (ever or yet) to modify the modules.conf > >Modules.conf is there for those modules which are NOT detected automatically, > >discover dynamically loads all those that ARE detected automatically. > > > > Oh MY! We have come along ways since I started using Debian. I wonder > were my head was. Auto detect? Cool! I guess I sort of took some time > off between versions. Of course starting with Slackware as my first > distro tends to keep someone on a more hands on manual way of thinking > about things. I think discover came about from Progeny's (Bruce & Ian's) work on their graphical installer. And as they promised, they folded their packages back into Debian. Knoppix still does autodetect better but they have no compunctions about distributing binary-only modules and the like and Debian is ultra-clean in that respect. No slam intended- just wanted to clarify that Debian is Free in the sense of source code and copyright, while Knoppix is Free in the sense of royalties. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Regex expert needed
According to Alan Chandler, > On Wednesday 04 May 2005 08:41, Mr Mike wrote: > > On Saturday 30 April 2005 03:42 pm, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > I am using PHP and I am trying to parse a string into substrings > ... > > > > You know... if I ask this sorta question all I get is RTFM and in reality > > that's the correct answer... When I had regex questions I bought a couple > > books and spent hours and hours reading and experimenting till I figured > > out what I needed... My personal thoughts here is, this guys' gettin a > > free pass... while I ask for help on a legitimate topic like my apt CDROM > > method fuckin up and nobody gives it a second look... > > I get plenty of questions that I ask here ignored, but I don't fret - I read > some more, figure a way of asking the question differently and try again. > > In this particular case, I read the manual thoroughly - but got confused > because I was asking a "not" match question. So I googled around to try and > find the answer, but no luck. > > I then came here to ask the question - and I tried to ask it in such a way > that it would be an interesting puzzle for someone who thought they really > understood regex's. (should that be regex\'s :-)) There's enough traffic here that I doubt if anyone reads all the messages. Your best bet is to ask a clear and careful question. I tend to help when I can but I skip questions that are vague or lazy require research time or are over my head (well, sometimes I put my 2c in there too ;-) ). Oh, and if the subject line is vague or on a topic I have no interest, I never even get to the body. I read a message mostly when I think I may learn something. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox: Selected profile is already in use
According to Monique Y. Mudama, > On 2005-05-10, Bill Marcum penned: > > > > I sometimes wonder, does anybody really use profiles in Firefox? > > I've had situations where I wanted to be able to run using two > different proxy configurations. The only way I found to do this was > using multiple profiles. A way I found handy was to run squid locally and give it different configs to contact the upstream depending on the location (as determined by arpinging to see which machines were nearby). Then I set all my browsers' proxies to localhost:3128. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop and different networks
I ended up writing my own little script using iputils-arping. It can tell you if an IP address and MAC address are nearby prior to bringing up an IP address on the port. Then I used the mapping paragraph as described in 'man interfaces' According to H. S., > Hi, > > I am supposed to configure a laptop so that is can be connected to a > CAT5 cable on either a home LAN or a university LAN. Currently, the > laptop is configured as a dhcp client in the home network and has a > fixed IP address in the university network. > > I played with ifplugd and guessnet a few months ago but couldn't get it > to work. Someone here was even nice enough to give me his interfaces > file to see how to do the configuration. For some unknown reason, it > just did not work. > > I am trying to solve the problem by starting from the beginning. What > options do I have to solve this problem (ifplugd, guessnet, etc)? Of > those options, assuming I am only dealing with a wired network, which > one is easy to configure? A webpage giving detailed documentation on how > to configure this would be actually nice. I have gone through the > ifplugd man page and also went through guessnet man page but iirc both > appeared to be lacking information on how to actually configure them and > if something doesn't work where to look for solutions. It is quite > possible that things have improved since 6 months or so ago. So I am > willing to give this another shot. > > regards, > ->HS > -- > Please remove the underscores ( the '_' symbols) from my email address > to obtain the correct one. Apologies, but the fudging is to remove spam. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Tony Godshall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help: Accidentally wiped off the whole hard disk!!!
According to Lee Braiden, > On Friday 13 May 2005 18:32, Deboo ^ wrote: > > Since it's not yet formatted, I would think there must be a way to > > recover all the data still. I could install this knoppix on the small > > 3 GB hdd and connecting the big hdd, try to recover. Is there a > > program I can use to recover the data? > > Yes, there is a program around for recovering partition tables. I just don't > recall the name. But wait for someone to point you to it. In other words, > don't get impatient and break stuff before you get a good answer ;) I used gpart once. Your milage may vary. Suggest you dd the whole drive to a backup file before you try anything. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An EXCELLENT Microsoft ... MS is in trouble from OpenSource OSes like Linux
According to Stephen Patterson, > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > I hope you're writing about an excellent Microsoft heavy duty Shop Vac, > > because otherwise excellent and Microsoft never get that close in > > reality otherwise. > > ... and I thought MS products would stop sucking as soon as they started > making vacuums. F***kin' vacuum locked up. Gotta reboot it! Then it didn't like the replacement pulley. It wants a driver upgrade! So I plug a cable into the ethernet port I didn't know it had and... Now it has a virus! It wants me to go buy McAfee! OK, did that, and it ran better for a week. But now it won't even start. And I paid $25 to have a Microsoft support employee tell me I have to reinstall its operating system from scratch. I didn't even know it had an operating system! -- I was a user who'd been used a few too many times. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network scan
According to Mark Roach, > Alexandar Angelov wrote: > >Mark Roach wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 00:39 +0300, Alexandar Angelov wrote: > >>>Do you know any command(script) to scan range from 192.168.35.1 to > >>>92.168.35.255 and return if port :80 , :21 and MAC Addr. > >>nmap > >> > >>-Mark > >> > >MAC? > > If you just want the MAC address of a host (not sure why you would), run > 'arp hostname' 'arp' only works if you've already had contact with the host. Ping it first, perhaps, or use 'arping' do ping at arp level and get mac addr at the same time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TX ok but no RX packets at all!
According to Joseph H. Fry, > I have two identical Debian Sarge boxes... I can say identical because I > used dd to copy the HDD from the first one I set up (#1) and placed it in > the other (#2). I have changed the hostname, mailname, and IP address in the > second machine and both seem to work ok except the second machine will not > receive any packets whatsoever! > > ifconfig looks similar between the two machines, except the IP and MAC of > course > > route -n looks correct > > iptables -L shows all policies ACCEPT > > so they both look like they should work... however if I ping from #2 (the > clone) to #1 the packets get received and responded to (as shown by tcpdump) > but #2 still shows RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0... 0 ...0 ..0 > > I just don't get it! The cable is good; the port is good, hell the NIC in #2 > was good in XP a couple of days ago. Any help would be appreciated! You *know* the cable is good? Twisted pair cables use separate pairs for send and receive. So being able to send doesn't mean the cable is good. You *know* the port on the switch is good? Same issue there. T -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display/resolution problems
According to Trevor Pankonien, > I just switched over from Ubuntu since debian has no problem working > with my MP3 player, but now i have a new problem. The display on my > laptop is sitting inside a black box/border, makeing approx half of my > screen just black. I have a Sony Vaio PCG-FRV26 notebook, which comes > with the ATI mobility 345 video card. anyone run into a similar > problem or anyone have any ideas that they think i might want to try? > My monitor usually runs at 1024x768, with a refresh of 60Hz, at least > thats what it was in Windoze. I set that during the initial install, > but now on boot it only has options for 800x600 and whatever the one > below that is (which makes my screen totally unreadable, with lines > blasting back and forth across the screen) Ubuntu by default came up > with the right settings, so i have never had this problem in the past. > If i remember correctly suse didnt have a problem either..i would like > to stay with debian if possible. But the monitor issue will have to be > resolved. I did a slight amout of tinkering with > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, but from fear of doin too much damage without > knowing what i was doing i stopped. THanks for NE help in advance. There are a number of ways to get your XF86Config-4 to be set to your preferred resolution (which on a laptop will typically be the actual resolution of your screen). Do you know what that is? If it's 1024x768, you'd probably want your Modes lines to be something like... Modes "1024x768" If you want to be able to backtrack, you can easily keep the old line around with a hash mark to make it into a comment, like so... #Modes "800x600" "640x480" You can see what resolution your monitor is in by typing 'xwininfo -root'. I think xwininfo is in packages xutils. -- Tony Godshall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display/resolution problems
Indeed. As says 'man XF86Config-4' says, "The first valid mode in this list will be the default display mode for startup". Personally, with laptops, I give it no choice- just the native rez, since anything else looks crappy / is a waste. According to Trevor Pankonien, > Got it working after the reinstall and amazing how easy it was! just > had to add the 1024x768 BEFORE the other two options. I had tried a > similar approach but put it after the otehr two...lesson learned! > thanks for the help everyone! > > On 6/1/05, Trevor Pankonien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for all the help so far. I will give these ideas a try as soon > > as sarge is done reinstalling :) Otherwise, could it be that ubuntu > > uses Xorg and debian is not? if this is the case, what steps would i > > have to take to get xorg into debian > > Thanks > > Trevor > > > > On 6/1/05, Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > According to Trevor Pankonien, > > > > I just switched over from Ubuntu since debian has no problem working > > > > with my MP3 player, but now i have a new problem. The display on my > > > > laptop is sitting inside a black box/border, makeing approx half of my > > > > screen just black. I have a Sony Vaio PCG-FRV26 notebook, which comes > > > > with the ATI mobility 345 video card. anyone run into a similar > > > > problem or anyone have any ideas that they think i might want to try? > > > > My monitor usually runs at 1024x768, with a refresh of 60Hz, at least > > > > thats what it was in Windoze. I set that during the initial install, > > > > but now on boot it only has options for 800x600 and whatever the one > > > > below that is (which makes my screen totally unreadable, with lines > > > > blasting back and forth across the screen) Ubuntu by default came up > > > > with the right settings, so i have never had this problem in the past. > > > > If i remember correctly suse didnt have a problem either..i would like > > > > to stay with debian if possible. But the monitor issue will have to be > > > > resolved. I did a slight amout of tinkering with > > > > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, but from fear of doin too much damage without > > > > knowing what i was doing i stopped. THanks for NE help in advance. > > > > > > There are a number of ways to get your XF86Config-4 to be > > > set to your preferred resolution (which on a laptop will > > > typically be the actual resolution of your screen). > > > > > > Do you know what that is? > > > > > > If it's 1024x768, you'd probably want your Modes lines to be > > > something like... > > > > > > Modes "1024x768" > > > > > > If you want to be able to backtrack, you can easily keep the > > > old line around with a hash mark to make it into a comment, > > > like so... > > > > > > #Modes "800x600" "640x480" > > > > > > You can see what resolution your monitor is in by typing > > > 'xwininfo -root'. I think xwininfo is in packages xutils. > > > > > > -- Tony Godshall > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- -- Tony Godshall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems Mounting Digital Camera
According to Romulo Sousa, > On 6/2/05, Adam Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 02/06/05, Romulo Sousa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > any clues? > > > > what shows up in your syslog, I get the following when I plug my camera in > > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time > 12:08:47 Mar 25 2005 > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhostkernel: usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host > Controller Interface driver > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usbkbd > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usbkbd.c: :USB HID Boot Protocol > keyboard driver > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. > Jun 2 11:26:19 localhost kernel: MIDI Loopback device driver > Jun 2 11:29:10 localhost kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:04.2-2, > assigned address 3 > Jun 2 11:29:10 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod > 0x54c/0x10) is not claimed by any active driver. > > > > > Jun 2 07:51:12 localhost kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.1: wakeup > > Jun 2 07:51:12 localhost kernel: usb 2-3: new full speed USB device > > using ohci_hcd and address 3 > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass > > Storage devices > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: usb-storage: device found at 3 > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to > > settle before scanning > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost usb.agent[27261]: usb-storage: loaded > > successfully > > Jun 2 07:51:13 localhost usb.agent[27261]: libgphoto2: loaded > > successfully > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: Vendor: OLYMPUS Model: > > C4100Z/C4000Z Rev: 1.00 > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: Type: Direct-Access > > ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte > > hdwr sectors (131 MB) > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: sda: assuming Write Enabled > > That is the message I'm missing. I don't know why it didn't show in my screen. > I restarted modutils and the following error message has come up my > screen (hope it helps somehow): > > # /etc/init.d/modutils restart > Calculating module dependencies...done. > Loading modules: usb-uhci > /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o: > init_module: No such device > Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, > including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. > You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg > /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o: insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o failed > /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o: insmod > usb-uhci failed > input usbkbd keybdev ntfs 3c59x usb-storage agpgart parport v_midi > > Moreover, I "modprobed" the sd_mod (though I'm not sure how it works). > > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte > > hdwr sectors (131 MB) > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: sda: assuming Write Enabled > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at > > scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 > > Jun 2 07:51:18 localhost scsi.agent[27430]: sd_mod: loaded > > sucessfully (for disk) > > Jun 2 07:51:19 localhost udev[27460]: creating device node '/dev/sda' > > Jun 2 07:51:19 localhost udev[27471]: creating device node '/dev/sda1' > > > > telling me that the camera is at /dev/sda1 > > No it's notactually i think it is not at anywhere here. :( > > Thanks you all, > > Romulo > > > Chers > > > > Adam > > > > What does cat /proc/partitions show? If it assigned the drive to e.g. sdb and found a valid partition table, you would see e.g. sdb1 -- Tony Godshall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Once Sarge becomes stable...
According to Steve Block, > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:22:38PM -0400, Rick Friedman wrote: > >For me, also being rather new to Debian, this raises another question. > >Currently, I am running an "unstable" machine (I have unstable in > >sources.list). I will probably keep that. I'm just curious: If someone > >has "sid" in sources.list, does sid become the new testing? If so, what > >will be the distro name of unstable? > > Sid will still be unstable. The release name of the next testing > version will be etch. In the movies, sid is the kid next door that breaks all the toys. Sid is always unstable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it
According to Marty, > Basajaun wrote: > > >For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will > >get updated (or not), take a look at "man apt_preferences". > > Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must > indicate the debian version. e.g. mine contains: > > APT::Get::Show-Upgraded "true"; > APT::Default-Release "sarge"; > APT::Cache-Limit 25165824; Oddly, I have no such file. None of my machines do. What does that mean? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i think I switched to Etch without knowing it
According to Marty, > Tony Godshall wrote: > >According to Marty, > >>Basajaun wrote: > >> > >>>For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will > >>>get updated (or not), take a look at "man apt_preferences". > >> > >>Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must > >>indicate the debian version. e.g. mine contains: > >> > >>APT::Get::Show-Upgraded "true"; > >>APT::Default-Release "sarge"; > >>APT::Cache-Limit 25165824; > > > >Oddly, I have no such file. None of my machines do. > > > >What does that mean? > > > > > > Maybe you accidentally removed it. Here is my result from > running "dlocate apt.conf": > debconf: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d > debconf: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf > apt: /usr/share/man/fr/man5/apt.conf.5.gz > apt: /usr/share/man/ja/man5/apt.conf.5.gz > apt: /usr/share/man/man5/apt.conf.5.gz > apt: /usr/share/man/es/man5/apt.conf.5.gz > apt: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/apt.conf > > This means it's an conffile of the package "apt". > > Running "dpkg --no-act -P apt" gives me this: > dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of apt: > wajig depends on apt. > apt-utils depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3; however: > Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is not installed. > Package apt which provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is to be removed. > gnome-apt depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3; however: > Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is not installed. > Package apt which provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is to be removed. > python-apt depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3; however: > Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is not installed. > Package apt which provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is to be removed. > libapt-pkg-dev depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3; however: > Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is not installed. > Package apt which provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is to be removed. > aptitude depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3; however: > Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is not installed. > Package apt which provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is to be removed. > synaptic depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3; however: > Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is not installed. > Package apt which provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is to be removed. > libapt-pkg-perl depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3; however: > Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is not installed. > Package apt which provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is to be removed. > > So it looks like unless you have apt-related packages your systems > should be fine. apt is just a dpkg front end, so theoretically you > could manage fine without it, but it's a lot more work, and upgrades > become problematic. Uh, your dlocate seems to show no /etc/apt/apt.conf file either. I do have a directory /etc/apt/apt.conf.d I'll shut up now and let this thread return to the original question. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Top posting
... > reading it, then I find it quicker to read just the top section of each > post rather than having to scroll down past everything I've already > read. ... I think you are reacting to cases where the responder is too lazy to trim. > There isn't a problem with context because I can remember that > from one post to the next. ... Which is fine if you are reading a thread fresh, but if you are reading a number of lists, and leave and come back, you need a bit of context. > If the author wants to quote a section of the > previous post they can in the extreme they end up inlining their post. Which is right, the context and the response. > I'm not saying I'm right and I often bottom post to not annoy people but > I have to try and convince you to switch. You are a very kind person. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Disks
According to Roberto C. Sanchez, > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:48:26PM +0100, Chris Robinson wrote: > > Hi > > > > I think Sarge is super, but can anyone tell me where to find out whats on > > disks > > 1-14? > > > > I have been using Debian for about 2 years, but have not been able to > > figure > > out what is on the disks. > > > > Stuff. > > You more than likely will use packages mostly from the first couple of > CDs. The packages are ordered based on popcon results, so the most > frequently installed packages are on the first CD, with packages on > subsequent CDs being less popular. If you have disk 1 and a good internet connection, that's all you need. Or even less :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel upgrade from 2.4.18-bf2.4 to 2.6.x
> > I'm running kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 on my computers. Filesystem is RaiserFS > > 3.6.25. What I need to do for upgrading kernel to 2.6.x > If you are going to build the kernel from source, don't forget to > also build Reiserfs into the kernel. ... Or not. initrd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copy protected CD's
According to Bj??rn Lindstr??m, > Andrew Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Does anyone know the details? Some Windows-specific driver that's > > required to read the tracks? And how does it know how many times > > you've ripped a song-- stashing counts in the registry some place, or > > in a hidden part of the hard drive? > > Presumably it uses a data track and Windows' nasty > auto-run-executable-on-CD feature to create the actual annoying > messages. I guess that in itself would prevent ripping by some > particularly naive Windows users. > > Of course, it might well be combine with some actual copy protection > scheme that involves damaging the CD in some way. I recall a story about the first CD that had this... people were defeating it by running a magic marker around the outside. Do a slashdot search and you'll find it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copy protected CD's
According to Andrew Schulman, > > Of course, it might well be combine with some actual copy protection > > scheme that involves damaging the CD in some way. > > My guess is yes, since the attacks that Tony and Shaun mentioned are > well-known. I'm interested in the mechanism that > > - allows audio CD players to play the disk > - allows Winblows audio players to play the tracks > - prevents Winblows ripping programs from copying the tracks. I think you're asking the wrong list. We're interested in freedom here, not copy-protection. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge and software patents
... > I guess there is some european debian users here : you're concerned more > than ever. Your favorite system, your favorite apps, your skills and > future jobs are in danger. > > Why spend time getting more skills on a system which might die? Debian and other free software will survive by routing around threats. What's your alternative? Proprietary software? "Becoming an expert in a proprietary technology is like becoming a sharecropper in your own mind" -- unknown Hey, be my guest. Lots of people have sold their souls to Microsoft. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rev?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Puryear), 28 Jun 96] > Does anyone installed linux-source using dselect? I'm getting > error when I try. Oh well, this is not important since I have > downloaded and untared 2.0.tar.gz. Just want to mention it. I had a similar problem, and it seemed related to having downloaded a a kernel-source-1.3.99 or some in dselect and a kernel-source-2.0.0 on the disk. It ended up installing fine with "dpkg --install ". I had some other problems with dselect, and ended up installing many packages with "dpkg --install" instead. Perhaps it has something to do with that Packages file synch. problem. Best regards. Anthony Godshall - Paradigm Shifting and Testing Digital Models and Transformations Project Engineer, Educator, Programmer
Re: ZIP-drive [parallel port zip drive as a portable Linux
Aslak wrote... > > > > I have one of the IOMEGA ZIP-drives,100MB, parralell version, > > > > and was wondering if it is, if it can, and if it will be > > > > possible to have one's linux system one of these ZIP disks. It > > > > _is_ possible to have a system on 100Megs, and it would be > > > > extremely convenient, at least for my purposes. Eric Hoeltzel... > I just loaded up Linux on a 1 gig iomega jaz drive last weekend. It > was quite painless, just dropped a friend's aha1515 into my 486dx50 > and ran the install and make him a bootdisk with loadlin. I would > say that it was somewhat noticably slower than an IDE drive, but > pretty acceptable nonetheless. X ran fine too. Highly convenient > arrangement I would say, and I had never seen one of these jaz > drives before. The SCSI version of the zip drive is a bit faster than the parallel port version the I assume your Jaz drive is a SCSI version too? Best regards. Anthony Godshall - Paradigm Shifting and Testing Digital Models and Transformations Project Engineer, Educator, Programmer
Re: Upgraded Motherboard
[Andrew Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > I have just upgrade the Motherboard in my Linux Box which is running > Debian 1.1 from a DX4/100Mhz to a Pentium 75Mhz. When I compare > /proc/cpuinfo it has dropped from 39.7 bogomips for the DX4/100 to > 29.79 bogomips. Any ideas why there is a decrease. "Upgrades" ain't always. Da facts, or da hype? It's no secret that the fastest 486's outperform the slower Pentiums. 486DX4's are clock tripled, and also L1 cache doubled (I think). Best regards. Anthony Godshall - Paradigm Shifting and Testing Digital Models and Transformations Project Engineer, Educator, Programmer
Re: Thin-X-Client-Laptop
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 05:01:36PM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 12:27:05PM +0200, Schoppitsch Dieter wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I want to run X-Applications on my (old) laptop (486; Debian 2.0) while > > connected (via PLIP) to the Server (Pentium, Suse 7.1). > > > > On the laptop I installed the X-server - that means - I am able to move the > > mouse-cursor on the screen only (no menues, no window). > > On the server I installed the whole X-stuff (KDE, applications). > > You might want a less graphics-heavy window manager, since KDE makes > the X server work harder than e.g. WindowMaker or AfterStep. I use > uwm or fvwm2 myself. I second that. Gnome and KDE made my OB800 (P166, 48MB RAM) run like a dog, but it is slick under blackbox or flwm. I've also found the vncserver/vncviewer combo to be very useful in this context: even the window manager runs on the server, so the laptop load is very thin indeed. And it protects you from laptop glitches (have to reboot that old laptop, no problem; just reconnect to the vnc session after. The other day I started an email (in mutt) in a vnc session on my fiance's computer, then had to go eat, then came back and continued it on my laptop in my7 living room, and finished it off the next day from the office. That's cool. And one of the machines was a Windoze box! (The debian package is made from the AT&T sources BTW, and doesn't include the tightvnc.org patch, so it is kind of slow over ssh over DSL/cable modem but is fine over 10M or 100Mbps ethernet. > > In textmode I am able to ping and telnet the server. > > Use ssh. It's a good idea to get in the habit of _always_ using ssh > instead of telnet, even when the extra security isn't needed. A 486 > is fast enough for login sessions, if not file copying and forwarding > X connections over ssh. Again, second that. I use ssh with -c blowfish and it is plenty fast on even my old P166. And I transfer files with rsync -e ssh instead of ftp. > > What do I have to do now? - as I am a beginner in Linux please send me > > 'foolproof`' instructions and hints. Easier said than done ;) Sorry to say it, but you gotta read a lot to get all this stuff figgered out and treat all the "foolproof" instructions people give you with a certain amount of skepticism. After all, we are all learning and we all tend to forget certain details (they become assumptions) as we move on. Try the howtos (e.g. /usr/doc/HOWTO/ if you have them installed or http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ - they've been through a peer review process that's a lot more thorough than what you get on a mailling list). > Log in to the fast machine, and run > DISPLAY=laptop:0 xterm & Uh, I don't think this will work. You need some kind of X magic authorization cookie or something. IIRC you can maybe transfer the ~/.Xauthority file or use xauth so the other machine/user has permission to use your X display. Suggest you check man xauth and/or XFree86-HOWTO and/or Thinclient-HOWTO . Good luck, -- Tony
Re: Thin-X-Client-Laptop
> > I've also found the vncserver/vncviewer combo to be very useful > > in this context: even the window manager runs on the server, > > so the laptop load is very thin indeed. > Why is that better than using the X protocol to run the window > manager on the remote/fast machine, like both sets of instructions > already posted would accomplish? If your WM is a resource hog, you > definitely want to run it on the fast machine. I suggested running it > locally for better performance, but running DISPLAY=laptop:0 start-kde > (or whatever the command is) on the fast machine will do all the work > except drawing on the screen using the fast machine. Sure. > > And it protects you > > from laptop glitches (have to reboot that old laptop, no > > problem; just reconnect to the vnc session after. > Ok, that's a small advantage. Not so small for me. My whole desktop is on the rock solid duron box with 256MB and a 30GB hard drive, not the eBay laptop or the touchy win32 box or any other workstation du jour. > > The other > > day I started an email (in mutt) in a vnc session on my > > fiance's computer, then had to go eat, then came back and > > continued it on my laptop in my7 living room, and finished > > it off the next day from the office. That's cool. > And is also easy, no matter what you're using. Just save the message > and exit the editor, and tell mutt you don't want to send it. It will > ask you if you want to keep it, and if you say yes, it will ask you > later if you want to recall saved messages. Almost all mailers > support resuming composition later. You don't get it. My whole desktop never goes away. I don't have to close my email program, much less save my work in each app. If I have ten konqueror windows open at different websites, they come along too. My terminal environment is unstable (office, living room, other office, maybe wireless some day) but my X server is rock solid. It's not just the one app that comes along, its all the open apps. I don't have to remember how to save my state in this app, and that app and the other. I just leave it all running and hook up to it at the next place I sit down. I sit down at the workstation du jour and my desktop comes to me. In the state I left it. All open apps are still open. Anything in progress is still in progress. I start a compile at breakfast and its done by the time I get to work (and I have the xterm in front of me when I get to the office). Truly a thing of beauty. Damn, I'm sounding like a True Beleiver. Should we move to an "advocacy" forum ;) > > And one of the machines was a Windoze box! > PuTTY is all you need on the 'doze side, at least if you are used to > the command line. (Without a handy 'nix machine, you need cygwin, and > maybe XFree86-win32 (see sourceware.redhat.com. I haven't tried it, but > it would be great if it was nicer than the demo versions of some > commercial X servers.)). VNC vs XFree86-win32: VNC is way more foolproof than trying to make a windoze box into an X server. Maybe X under win32 is solid now. Personally, I'm not going to take the chance, when I already have a solid, working and more functional choice. When last I tried this, the commercial stuff made you learn all kinds of weird config and launcher programs (Hummingbird) or was vapor or trialware or buggy. I ran Hummingbird for a year and it drove me nuts. VNC vs. Putty: Why restrict yourself to text apps? > > > > In textmode I am able to ping and telnet the server. > > > > Let me add: disable telnet access to all your computers. There is > no reason to ever use telnet. I agree. > There are reasons to keep > using FTP, since it is more convenient in some cases. Trash the FPT server. I use FTP client but never ftp server. My box has one port and one port only open to the net: ssh. > (BTW, netcat > does a better job than the telnet client for random poking around at > TCP ports that aren't using the telnet protocol, so you can trash it > too.) > Err, ok, I thought of one. My local library allows telnet access to > the catalog and some services. They probably service a lot of > connections at once, so all that encrypting might take up some CPU > time. Also, requiring people to get ssh when they could use the > telnet client that came with their system would make things less > convenient for the casual user. > Trash the server (telnetd), but not the client (telnet). Use telnet only where security is not really an issue. Use ssh where you'll be doing anything using a real password. > ... BTW, you should putCipher blowfish in > /etc/ssh/ssh_config, so you don't have to type it all the time. Well, I use other opts too with ssh (e.g. with -C compression for interactive but without compression I'm tunneling something that's already compressed like rsync'ing .gz files or vnc with tight encoding so I'm usually using ssh inside an alias or script anyway. > > And I transfer files wit
Re: via82cxxx
> > I've got a question about sound configuration. > > I know I have a VIA PCI audio controller : > > I/O 220-22F > > IRQ 5 > > and it seems to be sound blaster compatible. > > > > What should I do to get it working ??? > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > Olivier. > I had the same problem about 2 months ago the solution : install > kernel 2.4.0 test 5 or better. I have test 5 on my machine right > now(I'll get the latest kernel later on, when it's stablised maybe). > just modprobe soundcore, ac97something and then via82cxxx. works like a > charm > Pat Hi, I'm having a similar problem, exact same config as Olivier mentioned (sb io=0x220, irq=5, synth io=0x330). Can't find any place to indicate what the base io addr is for this sound card (presumably this is only necessary in legacy mode? oddly, there is a way to spec the synth's io port.) Kernel is 2.4.6 (have also tried with earlier kernels from stable and testing). CPU is duron 800 and VIA chip is shown in lspci as a VT82C686 (note: no A or B suffix). Just tried your (Pat's) suggestion: dude:~# modprobe soundcore [success] dude:~# modprobe ac97_codec [success] dude:~# modprobe via82cxxx_audio /lib/modules/2.4.6/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters /lib/modules/2.4.6/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.6/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.6/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o: insmod via82cxxx_audio failed I have been able to load sb.o but this is not useful as apps complain about only having 8-bit audio :(. Thanks for any assistance or suggestions. -- Tony
Re: Thin-X-Client-Laptop
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 11:14:54AM +0100, Matteo Semplice wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Schoppitsch Dieter wrote: > > > Hi folks - thanks for all of your hints regarding my problem. > > I think I am close to the solution - maybe you can help me again? > > > > >I want to run X-Applications on my (old) laptop (486; Debian 2.0) > > while > > >connected (via PLIP) to the Server (Pentium, Suse 7.1). > > > > Some data of my configuration: > > * laptop name: boneless > > * PC name: freeze > > * username on PC: nutzer So I take it the apps you want to run reside on freeze but you want them displayed in the X server on boneless. > > What I tried (and many variations of that): > > * start on the laptop (in text mode) "ssh -l nutzer freeze", > > than change to root with "su" and "cd /root" > > * in this ssh-channel I tried "export DISPLAY=boneless:0", > > than "xhost +boneless" > > H I don't think that this is what you want to do... I mean that ssh > doesn't require you to set DISPLAY (nor change permissions with xhost). > Infact you'll find that DISPLAY on freeze is set to freeze:15.0 or some > high number that doesn't refer to any real display as sshd fakes a display > and than channels all the info thorugh the ssh channel. Depending on your ssh config, you may want to run ssh -X -l nutzer freeze (The -X tells ssh to set up DISPLAY and forward any X apps back through the ssh tunnel- some ssh installs do that by default - make sure freeze's sshd_config is set up to allow port forwarding too). In this config you don't need to run xhost at all or bother with setting up DISPLAY. If you really want to do your X without tunneling through ssh, you need to run xhost +freeze in an xterm on the *laptop*. This tells the X display to allow apps from freeze to display on boneless without the normal magic cookie authentication. This is considered much less secure than ssh, but for a plip connection to a laptop with no other networking there's not much of an issue there. ###
freenet port conflict with wwwoffle... what to do
Hi. Freenet's default port for fwproxy is 8081 but I already have wwwoffle on that port (it's primary proxy is on 8080 and its control connection at 8081). I use wwwoffle even on my permanently-connected box so I can take websites with me on my laptop to read on the bus/in the park/on the plane and I'm not really ready to give it up. If I were to reconfig fwproxy to reside on another port would it complicate using freenet? (And would it hurt for the debian pkg to do so by default?) Thanks! -- Tony
Re: Anyone using GNUstep?
According to Ed Sutherland, > I like the GNUstep approach to applications, but am not crazy about the > windowmanagers -- windowmaker and nextstep. Are there any better > windowmangers for GNUstep? I think AddressManager is far better (at > least for me) than that offered by Gnome or KDE. I just installed addressmanager and ran it fine under fluxbox. Pretty cool. I think I'll start using it myself. I like fluxbox because it is low clutter, low impact, and has tabbed windows. I don't use workspaces anymore now that I found tabbed windows. I run tabbed xterms and browsers inside tabbed vnc sessions- trully random fast access to scores and scores of tasks. I suspect addressmanager and other gnustep apps will work just fine under any WM that doesn't geomtries too strongly (e.g. ion2). Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot Flavours
According to Ralph Crongeyer, > Ryan McGregor wrote: > > >Hi, I would like to download and try Debian as my operating system and > >I don't know which of the 7 cds I need. Could you please explain to me > >which Cd's I will need for each of the boot flavours and how this > >process works. Thank you for your time. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Ryan McGregor > > > > > Hi Ryan, > Go here: > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > Then go down to the second item on the page > > > Installing sarge with the Debian-Installer > > and select the 110 MB CD image for you architecture. > > Use that cd to install. > > Then read the installation instructions fron here: > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual The little 50MB business-card size one works well too. Either way- install the base system from a little CD and it will get the rest, whatever you decide you need, from the net via ftp or http (you choose the protocol, you choose the mirror). By the way, don't go hog-wild and install everything you might ever need. That way lies trouble. You can always get more later, so get what you /need/ and get comfortable with it, then get more. It's just an apt-get away. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD?
Actually, there's According to Steve Kleiser, > Greetings, > > What freeware utilities are available that could be used to check the boot > sector/MBR of a Debian boot CD using a Windows machine? This is probably the wrong place to ask about DOS/Windows utils, but you could do this: 1. get a lnx-bbc or knoppix or morphix or other run-linux-live-from-CD. knoppix and morphix at least are actually Debian. 2. boot in live run-from-cd environment ;-) Poke around with the usual Linux tools. There is a 1.44MB BIOS/DOS-format floppy image on the CD- there is not "boot sector" kind of thing on a CD outside of that. > After burning the CD the directory structure looks the way it should, but I'd like > to verify the correct location and content (maybe via a checksum?) of the boot > sector. Only Windows machines are presently available to me. Perhaps the real problem is elsewhere. Is the target an old machine? Many of those can't read CD's written at higher speeds- try writing at 4X or less. Is the target machine's BIOS set to boot off CD? If not you won't get it to boot off any CD, Debian or not. -- Tony Godshall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge, ethereal, tcpdump
According to Freddy Freeloader, > W. Borgert wrote: > > >Quoting Freddy Freeloader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > >>connection errors. Since I've upgraded to sarge I get the following > >>error when attempting to use tcpdump: get i f addrs: connection refused. > >> > >>I have what I'm assuming to be is related in ethereal too. When > >>attempting to do a packet capture the "interface" menu box is empty and > >>ethereal hangs at that point. So, I'm assuming that both tcpdump and > >>ethereal are both being denied access to my ethernet connections. > >>Anyone know if these are known bugs or do I just have something > >>misconfigured? Everything worked perfectly under woody, and I've done > >>nothing different than I did with woody so I'm assuming these are bugs, > >>but as a noob I'm not positive. > >> > >> > > > >I'm using both tcpdump and ethereal on both sarge and sid, so > >there must be a problem with your setup. Are you root? Only > >root is allowed to capture. Do you have a stock Debian kernel > >or a home-brew kernel? Maybe your .config is missing sth... > > > >Cheers, WB > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. > > Yes, I'm running as root. > > Yes, I'm running a stock Debian kernel. Building a customer kernel is > a little beyond my Linux skills at the moment. > > Just what .config file are you referring to? There are a whole lot of > .conf files on my machine. .config is the file that determines how your kernel is built. Relevant only if you built your own. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Linux Unix?
According to John L Fjellstad, > John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > For starters, depends on what you mean by "linux." At its most basic, > > Linux is the kernel. More usually, people use the term to refer to a > > complete set of sofware such as might be found on your computer and > > mine. > > I was thinking in terms of GNU/Linux (with emphasis on the GNU part, > when I think about it). > > > I saw in a paper someplace the term "genetic unix" used to refer to > > descendants from the original Unix. > > > > Linux is not that, though it could contain some code that is descended > > from that. Some other OS operating systems (FreeBSD etc) are genetic > > linux. > > You mean unix. Didn't the *BSD people remove all AT&T code? > > > There is a standard, POSIX, to which operating systems must comply in > > order to be considered Unix (non-TM). Linux aims to comply, but lacks > > any necessary certification. > > I guess what I'm asking is, are those OSes that weren't using the > original AT&T code (Minix, GNU, I'm guessing the different BSDs after > the lawsuit and settlement) considered to be unix or a totally different > kind of OSes? As I understand it those who actually know the details of the settlement also agreed to secrecy, but the story I hear is that there was as much BSD code misappropriated into ATT Unix as vice versa, so they just gave license to each others' code. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q. on /dev/dsp
According to Wayne Ward, > Hi, > As I said in an earlier e-mail, > that i'm getting an error telling > me that /dev/dsp can't be found. Is > this because that the person putting > together this cd had sound compiled > in thier kernel.I do not have a sound > card on my box and I don't know why > gnome is asking for it when i try to > start gnome.Is there a file or config > that i can pull this out? > TIA > Wayne You'll need to indicate whether you are using udev or devfsd or not and your kernel version, I think, before folks can help you much. If you are using udev or devfsd, /dev/dsp will appear when the correct module for your soundcard is loaded. If not you will need to create it. You should probably go read the Sound-HOWTO. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Experiment: Neophyte versus Windows XP
Hi, Mark. My two cents follow Simon's, inline. According to Simon Kitching, > On Tue, 2004-07-20 at 17:46, Mark e Plummer wrote: > > Hello, > > I have just read your article as best I could. I am confused, but not > > by you but by me. > > I have been using Firefox as a browser and Thunderbird as mailbox for > > about a week and a half now and I love them. > > I am thinking about dumping Windows XP because it is a pain, I was > > looking at Mandrake and ReHat. Debian Woody I have never heard off > > until five minutes ago. > > Is it really hard to understand. Or as I am not a programmer should I > > even be thinking about using it. > > This is a vague letter I know. > > What I am asking, I suppose, is would you go for it. Do I have to dump > > Windows before I start downloading Woody? > > Any help in the form of ideas would be wonderful. > > Hi Mark, > > You should definitely give Linux a go - it's got some great features, > and gets better by the day. > > Provided you have a reasonable-size hard drive, you can have multiple > operating systems installed on the same PC by "partitioning" your disk > drive. Or if you're short of disk space, you can always buy another disk > drive to experiment with. > > It is probably better to do this than simply wipe Windows; like all > drugs, going cold-turkey can be hard :-). I guess it depends what you do. If you mostly do web browsing and e-mail, it can be easy. But if you are stuck in the Microosft application file compatibility morass, it's a lot harder. (Office folks I won't identify got anal when I gave them back an OpenOffice-edited Excel spreadsheet that had had the zoom factor or even printer settings changed even though it was fine where it counted) > With multiple operating systems installed (often called "dual boot" or > "multi-boot"), when you turn your PC on you get a list of the installed > operating systems to choose from, including your existing Windows setup. > > There are even Linux versions that run direct from CD without needing to > be installed at all, but that is probably not what you're looking for. Might be good if you want to just try it out. Morphix and Knoppix are both Debian-based and run straight off CD. > If you've got Windows 95/98/ME right now, then you can simply run a > "disk defragmentation" from inside Windows, then boot from a linux > install CD and follow the instructions to split off some spare disk > space for the use of Linux. If you've got WindowsNT, 2000 or XP, you'll > probably need the commercial tool "partition magic" to create a > partition on your existing drive. Or buy that new drive I suggested. > There may be a way to partition your existing windows drive with free > software, but someone else will have to tell you how, because I don't > know of a safe way to do this. ... Xandros and Progeny do this for you. But do back up your drive before you start. > Regarding which linux distribution to install, both Mandrake and RedHat > are good choices. Debian is a little harder to use initially, but more > powerful once you get to know it. As your first entry into Linux, you > might be better off with Mandrake or "Fedora" (what RedHat call their > free version). But Debian is ok to start with, too. The "woody" (3.0) > version you mentioned, though, is pretty old. If you choose Debian, you > will probably be better off downloading the "debian-installer" program > from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/. This is "beta" > software, ie not officially released, but it's a lot easier to use than > the "woody" (aka 3.0) release of Debian. This will install everything > over the internet, so you only need to make one CD. However you'd better > have a good internet connection... If you can, use Debian Sarge, installed from the new "beta-installer net-install" cd image. It's a smallish download (about 100 MB instead of 700MB) and features kernel 2.6.6, which supports so many devices most things are just plug and play. If you are too much a newbie to sucessfully download and burn a CD or you have trouble with the Debian install, I'd recommend a boxed version of one of the several excellent Debian-based Linux distributions. I've used and like Progeny Linux (no they are not dead, they've got a new distrib on the way) and Xandros (formerly Corel Linux). Xandros is probably the best migration path for someone comfortable with Microsofty ways. A Debian-based distro has several advantages over Mandrake or Redhat/Fedora or Suse etc: a) you are building on the famous strength and discipline and moral purity (heheh) of Debian instead of a corporate for-profit product (don't get me wrong- I love profit. but corporations have split loyalties, so things like quarterly reports and shareholder value and strategic alliances can get in the way of Doing The Right Thing) b) you don't have to unlearn redhatisms and suseisms and mandrakeisms if you decide to switch to pure Debian later. c) it's easier
Dell 8600 WUXGA (NVidia chipset)
Hi, all. Just got a good deal on a Dell 8600 with a WUXGA display (1920x1200). Got it running at 1600x1200 with Xandros 1.0 (Debian-based, the former Corel Linux, and apparently what LindowsOS is based on), but trying to get it to the full width. lspci says it has an unknown NVidia chipset... 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0324 (rev a1) Does anyone know if this chip is handled in the newer kernels (I ran 2.6.0 on my last laptop for a while, but can't seem to get xandros to come up off a customized kernel) or a newer version of XFree86. I've poked around tuxmobil etc, and there's supposed to be a NVidia driver, but it's not clear that it would work with this model, plus I'd rather avoid a proprietary driver (I've not been able to back out installs of proprietary software very well in the past). Any help (experience or speculation) appreciated, especially combos and configs (XF86Config-4 and kernel) known to work on this (a bit too proprietary in retrospect) beast. Oh, I'm running Xandros 1.0 but with a lot of stuff upgraded to debian testing. Any tips for vanilla Debian are also welcome, as I wouldn't mind switching back to that (I'm not getting that much use out of the Xandros added-value stuff, except for eye-candy, which is readily available elsewhere). By the way, Xandros' X startup seems to have a pretty good try-and-fallback startup system for X; I'm trying to figure out how it works. -- Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: e100 or eepro100?
According to GCS, > On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 03:17:37AM -0500, lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > does it matter which of these network card drivers i use? > Yup, at least until both are working for you. For a while, I thought > eepro100 is a newer driver, until recently I had to help out a friend of > mine with a Toshiba laptop. The e100 driver in Woody could not detect > the network card, so I have upgraded the kernel to 2.4.23 on that > machine. When I have loaded the e100 driver that seemed newer, also it > seems Intel donated some code into it (?). eepro100 was my preference for a while, since mii-tool worked with it and not with e100 (to detect link status), but now I have a machine where e100 works and eepro100 doesn't. so i guess the bottom line is that eepro100 is more featureful and e100 is more official (vendor-supplied). benchmark and use what works. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamassassin
According to Hans du Plooy, > Hi all, > > I installed spamassassin-2.6.1 using apt-get (woody) > > When starting spamd, I get the following in my mail.log: > > Jan 6 16:41:21 hermes spamd[14266]: Failed to run RAZOR_CHECK SpamAssassin > test, skipping: ^I(Can't locate object method "check_razor" via package > "Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus" (perhaps you forgot to load > "Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus"?) at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/ > PerMsgStatus.pm line 2235. ) > > Maybe I did forget to load the module - how do I do this? It is there and > i've looked at it - way above my head. > > Any idea how to fix this? You have to have razor installed and I think you also have to register with the razor website or generate a unique key or something- read the stuff in /usr/share/doc/spamassassin and /usr/share/doc/razor. SA will use razor automatically if it is properly installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SA going downhill
According to S.D.A., > On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 08:18:53AM -0700 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > > S.D.A. wrote: > > > I agree. I switched from SA several months ago, and am quite happy with the > > > speed, accuracy of Spamprobe over Spam Assassin. > > > > I think this thread has shown that many people have a gross misconception > > on how SpamAssassin works and how it is fundimentally different than the > > alternatives listed. In every case the alternatives listed have been a pure > > Bayesian system. SpamAssassin is *NOT* a Bayesian system. It is a framework > > in which a Bayesian system is also included. > > I think I was pretty fair. The fact that the SA framework is slower (I know due > to the complexity), is a show stopper for me. If I can achieve better accuracy, > with less work, increased speed, with less system resources -- Then I've found a > winner. At least for MY needs. I respect and understand that your needs may be > different. I personally also switched from SA to something else. I love the SA framework idea, but its bayesian implementation was such that spammers could easily get past it by spewing random words. So I switched to CRM114's mailfilter. But given SA's framework-of-methods methodology perhaps a better approach would have been to integrate the better learning filter into SA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pendrive corrupted filesystem
According to Rodolfo Medina, > Hi. > > When I try to remove a certain directory from my pendrive, > the following error message appears: > > $ rm -vr to-be-removed > rm: WARNING: Circular directory structure. > This almost certainly means that you have a corrupted file system. > NOTIFY YOUR SYSTEM MANAGER. > The following directory is part of the cycle: > `to-be-removed/News/to-be-removed/News' > > . Do I have to throw it away, or is there a way to repair it? > Thanks, > Rodolfo You can try formatting it, e.g. mkfs.vfat /dev/mypendrive A side note/tip: It can be good to mount these types of drives with -o sync. I've pulled out my usb flash drive by mistake before it was really done because without option sync cp and mv would return as soon as the operation was queued. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Search for real debian Live -cd
4)live.debian.net is a nice project but it is not 100% pure as it use Casper from Ubuntu, but it is a clean project and the iso's are a good base to develop (I, for example, I am building my custom distro from here: http://live.debian.net/debian-cd/current/i386/ Almost nothing in Debian is 100% by that standard. The casper patch is in unstable and testing, so it's clearly "pure" enough. 5) dfsbuild will allow you to create a 100% Debian live cd, some pre made iso's are here: http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/ Though they are too big for my taste. Amen to that. That's the beauty of the live.debian.net project. Bootcd will also create bootable CDs and is supposed to be able to do zisofs compression but it didn't work for me when I tried it on etch yesterday. It said it needed mkzisofs which was supposed to come with mkisofs but didnt!? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB DVD/CD burners
According to Nate Bargmann, > * Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005 Dec 09 11:05 -0600]: > > According to Andreas Rippl, > > > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 09:07:20AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I'm contemplating adding a USB DVD burner to my system. Does anyone > > > > have any good or bad experiences with these? > > > > > > > > In theory it should be simple, but I thought I'd check on the practice > > > > first...:-) > > > > > > > just make sure you've got USB2... I am speaking out of experience. > > > > on both ends... I am speaking out of experience. > > I bought a refurbished Iomega USB CD-R/RW DVD drive and it supports > USB 2.0. This computer, did not. So, I bought a USB 2.0 capable PCI > card and it works like a champ under both k3b and XCDRoast. > > With the built-in USB 1.1 ports I had to force the write speed to 4x or > I'd get a coaster. Now it does 48x effortlessly. For laptops, the cardbus USB2 cards work nicely too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Neal Stephenson on Debian
"As far as I know, Debian is the only distribution with its own constitution... but what really sold me on it was its phenomenal bug database... which is a sort of interactive Doomsday Book of error, fallability, and redemption..." -- Neal Stephenson In The Beginning Was The Command Line, 1999, p.106 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Neal Stephenson on Debian
According to Alex Malinovich, > On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 17:26 -0800, Tony Godshall wrote: > > "As far as I know, Debian is the only distribution with its > > own constitution... but what really sold me on it was its > > phenomenal bug database... which is a sort of interactive > > Doomsday Book of error, fallability, and redemption..." > > > > -- Neal Stephenson > > In The Beginning Was The Command Line, 1999, p.106 > > Thanks for the quote. I'm assuming you've just now read In the > Beginning? Better late than never I guess. :) Re-reading, in fact. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No comments
> > > In the last two weeks I stopped receiving answers to the questions > > I > > > post in this mailing list , till now it was very help full. > > > What happened ? something that I did ...? This list has so much traffic that many just skim the subject lines for topics that we can answer or learn from. The best advice I could give would be to write a subject line that is clear and specific. And don't take it personally if you don't get an answer- just rephrase and try again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving a Debian install in to new hardware?
According to Jimmy Liang, > Hi All, > > I'm in need of some hints here. I have a P4 box running Debian 3.1, with > things like Postfix, spamassassin, MySQL, Apache, and other misc > softwares. > What I want to do is to move all that to a new box I have, with dual Xeon. > Can you suggest the best way to do this? I'd like to move it to a larger > drive, if possible, but its not critical. ... Look at dpkg-repackage- a handy way to migrate apps complete with your customized configs to your new box (or to a fleet of new boxes). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP not working over ppp connection (WAS: 5th day using Linux...)
According to Andrew Sackville-West, > On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:12:21 -0800 > "Tyson Varosyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yea, I am going to keep with it. This is just so damn frustrating! How would > > all TCP traffic just be blocked be default?! I do not know enough about the > > OS. I just got home and I am going to try some other flavors of Linux, > > ubuntu, mandrake, whatever I can find. I tried to install Debian with the > > 2.4 kernel. The only thing that was different is that my NIC did not get > > magically put to Eth1 - it remained at Eth0. But the PPP problem was still > > there. > > > > I have been administrating Corporate Windows Networks for 10+ years now and > > I have never seen anything like this with the core OS! Weird-ass driver > > issues, PNP (plug and pray) not working, devices getting *lost* or Windows > > patches breaking device drivers - sure - seen it all. But nothing like where > > a working device can connect, send ICMP traffic, route TCP traffic but not > > use TCP for itself Plain weird! > > as I said before, I know naught of these things here, so help a bit and maybe > I can help more. What do you mean by use TCP for itself? if its routing tcp > traffic, you should be done? I know, I know, wget doesn't work etc. ummm... > > just for shits and giggles, what's your /etc/resolv.conf say? > > cat /etc/resolv.conf > > and how about cat /etc/network/ifaces? > > shots in the dark. > > fwiw, once you get it done, it will "just work", really Also, what about '/sbin/route -n'? Do you have more than one interface? What's the output of '/sbin/ifconfig' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP not working over ppp connection (WAS: 5th day using Linux...)
I wonder if your ISP has an MTU issue. That would explain small packets getting through but not bigger ones. I don't recall offhand how to troubleshoot that but a quick google search should give it to you. You can probably test it pretty quick by setting a lowish mtu with a paragraph in /etc/network/interfaces as described in man 5 interfaces. According to Tyson Varosyan, > Ok, I have made outputs of the files that Tony and Andrew asked for. For > some reason wget would not dump to a file, so I will copy the output into > here. > > Also note: because my laptop does not have a floppy drive, I reloaded same > version of Debian on my PC using a VIA motherboard with onboard PCMCIA > controller. I am still having the same issue (TCP traffic not going over > PPP). > > The output of the files is located at http://www.up-times.com/tcp/ > > Tyson Varosyan > Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.up-times.com > 206-715-TECH (8324) > > UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Godshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 4:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Debian-User > Subject: Re: TCP not working over ppp connection (WAS: 5th day using > Linux...) > > According to Andrew Sackville-West, > > On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:12:21 -0800 > > "Tyson Varosyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yea, I am going to keep with it. This is just so damn frustrating! How > would > > > all TCP traffic just be blocked be default?! I do not know enough about > the > > > OS. I just got home and I am going to try some other flavors of Linux, > > > ubuntu, mandrake, whatever I can find. I tried to install Debian with > the > > > 2.4 kernel. The only thing that was different is that my NIC did not get > > > magically put to Eth1 - it remained at Eth0. But the PPP problem was > still > > > there. > > > > > > I have been administrating Corporate Windows Networks for 10+ years now > and > > > I have never seen anything like this with the core OS! Weird-ass driver > > > issues, PNP (plug and pray) not working, devices getting *lost* or > Windows > > > patches breaking device drivers - sure - seen it all. But nothing like > where > > > a working device can connect, send ICMP traffic, route TCP traffic but > not > > > use TCP for itself Plain weird! > > > > as I said before, I know naught of these things here, so help a bit and > maybe I can help more. What do you mean by use TCP for itself? if its > routing tcp traffic, you should be done? I know, I know, wget doesn't work > etc. ummm... > > > > just for shits and giggles, what's your /etc/resolv.conf say? > > > > cat /etc/resolv.conf > > > > and how about cat /etc/network/ifaces? > > > > shots in the dark. > > > > fwiw, once you get it done, it will "just work", really > > > Also, what about '/sbin/route -n'? Do you have more than > one interface? What's the output of '/sbin/ifconfig' > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: saving xterm scrolling data to file
According to Oliver Lupton, > On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:14:55 -0500 (EST) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Haines Brown) wrote: > > > When I run a command with debug in xterm, a lot of info scrolls > > past. How can I save this to a file? All I get is how to debug > > the debug message, not the debuging information itself, which just > > scrolls quickly by in the terminal: > > > > For debugging messages, please use the --debug option. > > Debugging messages may help finding a solution to your problem. > > If you intend to send any error or debug messages to the gphoto > > developer mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, please run > > gphoto2 as follows: > > > > env LANG=C gphoto2 --debug --debug --debug -f "/opt/tmp/camera" -P > > > > Please make sure there is sufficient quoting around the arguments. > > > > I vaguely recall there is a utility to capture input to the terminal > > to file. > > > > If you're using bash as a shell (and probably others too) > > command > /file/to/direct/output.to > > or if you want stderr to go to the file as well: > > command 2>&1 > /file/to/direct/output.to Or if you want to see it *and* send it to a file, pipe it to tee. T -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using USB Memory-Stick with Debian
According to Felix Karpfen, > With the help of Google, I have located the following instructions > for configuring Debian to recognise the presence of a USB Memory-Stick: > > > ,[ memory_stick.txt ]- > | USB memory stick > | > | * plug in Memory-Stick > | * become root (su -) > | * modprobe usb-storage > | * in /etc/fstab: directly after the line with "proc /proc ..." > | add a line like this: > | usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs noauto,user 0 0 > | * now root may mount the memory stick: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt > | and read/write on /mnt > | * in /etc/fstab enter a line as follows: > | /dev/sda1 /usbstick autouser,noauto0 0 > | * mkdir /usbstick > | * in /etc/modules add: > | # For USB memory stick > | usb-storage > | * Now every user may mount and umount /usbstick > `-- These instructions are quite brittle since depending on your system config the stick may not come in as sdb, sdc, etc. For a more robust approach, I recommend reading the udev HOWTO. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: system requirements for debian
According to Bob Hynes, > I have debian running on a 500Mhz box with 256MB ram. It's pretty > slow...slower than windows would be. Is there anyone who know what I > could be doing to speed things up? turning off services, adding ram? I'm > also considering tying another version of Linux, but maybe this box is > just too slow at 500Mhz? Debian runs on a tiny little ARM-based PDA with tiny little flash disks- see pocketworkstation.com. I'm guessing you have unspoken expectations well beyond Debian itself- I'm guessing KDE or Gnome plus some big apps? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to minimize /dev (using udev)?
According to Marty, > Magnus Therning wrote: > >I am somewhat surprised to find so many devices in /dev when using udev > >(on Sid): > > > > % ls /dev|wc -l > > 662 > > I use udev with Sarge, and I get: > $ ls /dev |wc -l > 155 > > > > >More than 600 entries in /dev is hardly the lean mean /dev promised by > >udev... > > > >Under other Linux distros I've ended up with _far_fewer_ devices. Are > >all devices in /dev created by udev under Debian, or is there some other > >tool that creates additional ones? > >How can I get rid of the ones I don't need? > > Did you delete the old /dev directory? Maybe udev keeps what's already > there. they get put in /dev/.static -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware RAID, software RAID, 3ware 9550SX, level 1 vs. level 5
According to Joseph H. Fry, > I am partial to software raid for one important reason longevity. One > great thing about linux is that it rarely makes something entirely > obsolete... and even if it does, you can always download previous versions of > your favorite distro... an array created by mdadm today will likely be > readable by most linux distros for many years to come. > > this is unlike hardware which can become almost impossible to replace in a > few > months sometimes. I've heard stories about hardware controllers that > wouldn't read data from arrays created by previous versions of the same model > controller due to an updated bios, and it was almost impossible to get the > previous version from the manufacturer. > > As far as the best redundancy... I like raid 50. Raid 50 is essentially a > raid 5 array that is mirrored to another raid 5 array... this protects from > multi-drive failures as long as one of the raid 5 arrays only suffers a > single drive failure... if both have multiple failures you may be able to ... Personally, I prefer Google's approach (I was at an event on this very topic event at their Mountain View campus yesterday). They don't try to achieve fault-tolerance in a single system- They achieve their incredible reliability and performance by spreading load redundantly over many hosts. It's RAIH, not RAID. That's my 2 cents! Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Branded Servers that support Debian GNU/Linux
According to Paolo Alexis Falcone, > On 1/30/06, Rishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi > > > > Anyone knows of any Branded (HP/IBM/Dell etc.) Server that supports > > Debian GNU/Linux (Sarge) > > > > I need to order a server for a customer with the following specs or higher. > > > > CPU: P-IV > > RAM: 512 MB > > HDD: 160 GB > > > > I need the following to work. > > (a) 1024x768 Resolutin Display for X Windows > > (b) Network card for accessing the Network > > (c) Disk Controllers / Drives for accessing and partitioning the hard disk. > > Try asking HP. Perhaps even former the former Debian project leader who's more or less their Linux evangelist (Bdale) Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff...
According to Tyson Varosyan, > Given the fact that Katipo and Alvin were the only ones to reply to this > thread and nether proved to know anything about how to resolve my issue, I > thought that I should post the resolution here so that others looking for > the answer later would not have to bother the resident smart-asses on this > board. > > Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, ... Just a word to the wise (and especially the wise who have not yet posted). You'd get more people to read your question if you gave a subject line that's more relevant. You'd get more people to read your solution if you gave a subject line starting with SOLVED: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh and X forwarding
According to H S Rai, > On stable Debian installed PC, it appers that X is not > allowed with ssh. As on issuing command: > > ssh -X ip.number1 gnome-terminal > > it open a window, but issuing any command of graphic > program, says: > > >Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display > > Same command for other PC (ip.number2 having RedHat9) opens > the gnome-terminal without problem. > > How I can allow ip.number1 to forward X? Hi. It's considered a security risk and has to be explicitly enabled. In /etc/ssh/sshd_config, change X11Forwarding from "no" to "yes", and then do a /etc/init.d/ssh restart. Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh and X forwarding
According to Florian Kulzer, > H S Rai wrote: > >Today at 7:37am - Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > > >> The sshd_config file (probably under /etc/ssh/sshd_config or somewhere > >> similar) has AllowX11Forwarding no > >> > >> Change that to yes and restart sshd > > > > > >It did not solve my problem. I made changes and restarted > >ssh (There is no sshd). > > > >The part of file now is as: > >= > ># Site-wide defaults for various options > > > ># Host * > ># ForwardAgent no > >ForwardX11 yes > ># ForwardX11Trusted yes > ># RhostsRSAAuthentication no > > > > > >What went wrong? > > I think you have to make the change to sshd_config on the remote host > and you also have to set AllowTcpForwarding to "yes". The Debian- > specific instructions can be found here: > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xssh ForwardX11 yes is the same as -X. You can put it in /etc/ssh/ssh_config for system-wide client defaults or in ~/.ssh/config for user-specific client default or per host. But this is a red herring- the real issue is that the server is not allowing it. AllowTcpForwarding is for -L and -R opts. Red herring. -Y is a red herring too- it's just a less-secure -X. What you want is described in 'man sshd_config' which shows you how to control the ssh server (sshd) settings: /etc/ssh/sshd_config . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i must install the gnome,if i install the xgl
According to blye eric, > I uses the window maker,but i saw a lot the document about xgl,said you > must install gnome-environment before install xgl, it's really? > :) There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer. Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I recieve spam "Debian security."
... > I'm not sure when or why the messages go the original paster vs the > entire list, though. Because on this list (like many) the messages retain their original From: line, and they are using that. Don't you just hate those clueless halfwit ISPs? They've got to be losing business. Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble Installing nvidia-graphics-driver on Etch
> ... X won't start when I finish the > installation and put > Driver "nvidia" > instead of > Driver "nv" > in the xorg.conf file. At the bottom of this mail is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf > file. > > What can I do to install the nVidia-driver properly? ... I haven't read the installation manual you referenced- you can do it with just the Debian docs. The nvidia driver requires a non-DSFG binary module that can't be distributed with Debian. You'll need to add contrib sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list and install the nvidia-* packages and read the /usr/share/doc/nvidia-*/README.Debian* files. Althernatively you can use the DFSG-free module "nv". I use the non-free one myself since it was the only way I could get full width out of my laptop's 1920x1280 display. Perhaps others can be more helpful. Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I fix this?
According to Gene Heskett, > On Saturday 08 April 2006 12:04, M A wrote: > >Hi there Got this from my ISP the other day > > > >We have been forced to take your server off line, since your server is > >performing phishing from your secondary IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.224. > > > >that IP address was one my secondary IP's, using debian sarge, have > > iptables firewall, > >using qmail as the mail server .. > > > >How do i fix this, or detect that is happening .. > > > > > >Cheers > > You have been "rootkitted", To learn more, go get chkrootkit, and > rkhunter. chkrootkit is now a bit long, but its got most of them > covered. > > At the end of the day, your best recovery is to wipe and re-install, and > make sure the automatic software update facility is working so that > when security problems have been fixed, your machine will more or less > automaticly upgrade the software to keep your machine reasonably safe > from future such exploits. Or, if you want to do forensic analysis, take the drive offline and install with a new/clean/fresh drive. Then you can look at the problem at your leisure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: google_desktop_tool
According to Paul Johnson, > On Saturday 22 April 2006 09:08, Juraj Fedel wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 05:31:39PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Friday 21 April 2006 12:09, steef wrote: > > > The functionality that you're panicking about is disabled by default. > > > You have to go out of your way to turn it on. > > > > This is also very dangerous in my opinion. User will install it and get > > used to it. Then one day google will enable by default. Guess how > > many users will be aware of this? > > You give Google too little credit. Except for the whole China thing, when > has > Google done the wrong thing? They're number 1 and have a strong bottom line > because they put the users first, not their bottom line. Indeed. And even in the China case, when you hear the whole story, what Google did is not as bad as it might first appear. Their employees in China are of course subject to Chinese law and government prosecution so Google's only other option would be to pull out completely. It's better to index what they can and hope that smart people can talk about democracy without actually using the word etc. than index nothing at all. Contrast Google's behavior to Yahoo's, who actually helped the Chinese government identify a dissident blogger who was then imprisoned. Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Color printers
According to Miles Bader, > Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ron, there's a really neat site called the Wikipedia > > (www.wikipedia.org). It's almost like an encyclopedia, but it has > > entries for a lot of fictional characters, TV shows, and such. > > Indeed, some say it contains _mostly_ entries for fictional characters, > TV shows, and such... > > [Disclaimer: I wouldn't say that though -- I find wikipedia an > invaluable resource, especially for researching technical subjects.] A recent study found that wikipedia's accuracy is almost as good as Encyclopedia Britannica. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
According to Mike McCarty, > Michelle Konzack wrote: > >Am 2006-04-19 10:50:06, schrieb Paul Johnson: > > > >>On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: > >> > >>>Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand > >>>the umlaut. It is inappropriate to put characters like that > >>>into a text-only message. > >> > >>There isn't anything non-ISO about "?", including it in a message doesn't > >>make it "not text only". The "ae" is a poorman form of "?". > > > > > >You forget, that the american brain is limited > >to 128 characters called US-ASCII. > > You forget what the "A" in "ASCII" means. If you Europeans > want to take over something we made for ourselves, then > you should at least have used the techniques for extending > it which were built in. ASCII is a 7 bit code. It is extensible > by using the SI and SO which were specifically intended for > that. Also it has ESC and DLE which are useful for extending > and transmitting such kinds of codes. > > But no, you have to screw it up. > > Mike Sadly you forget that most of the populations of the American continents do in fact use letters with accents and tildes which are sadly lacking in the supposedly "American Standard Code". Otherwise a very cogent comment. Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my system compromised
According to Todd Weaver, > On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 06:24:02PM +0100, Ben Meijering wrote: > [snip] > > I was looking in my /etc/rc2.d directory to see what kind of services > > were installed on my server. > > > > The contents of my rc2.d directory is as follows > > > > S10distwatchd S20courier-authdaemon S20nfs-kernel-server S89cron > > S10sysklogdS20courier-pop S20pptpd S89watchd > > S11klogd S20courier-pop-ssl S20samba S91apache > > S14ppp S20eximS20ssh > > S91apache-ssl > > S15bind9 S20inetd S21nfs-common S99rmnologin > > S15lwresd S20lpd S23killd > > S99stop-bootlogd > > S18portmap S20makedev S50proftpd > > S19sshdS20mysql S89atd > > > > I couldn't find a man page for distwatchd and just tried to run it which > > gave the following result: > > You *probably* should have less'd the file and not just executed it. > > You also could send the contents of the file in question, for review. > > > benspagina:/etc/rc2.d# /etc/init.d/distwatchd > > > > > > FUCK: Got signal 11 while manipulating kernel! > > > > Searching for this last sentence I found all sorts of pages talking > > about compromised servers. > > > > Is there a chance my system is compromised? > > You can try tiger... > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install tiger > sudo tiger I'd not run anything else from a hard drive I suspect is compromised. Reboot with a liveCD and examine it from there. Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backing up Windows using rsync
According to Rodney Richison, > > > Lubos Vrbka wrote: > > > hi, > > > >> I was planing to use rsync with SSH on Windows and the Linux server > >> and schedule the script to copy the files/folders to a Debian based > >> Linux server in the following folder structure: > >> > >> /backup/Monday/server > >> /backup/Monday/ws01 > >> /backup/Monday/ws02 > >> /backup/Monday/ws03 > >> . > >> . > >> /backup/Tuesday/server > >> /backup/Tuesday/ws01 > >> /backup/Tuesday/ws02 > >> /backup/Tuesday/ws03 > >> . > >> . > >> > >> This would mean I'd need the Debian server storage capacity would > >> need to be at least 200 GB x 7 = 1.4 TB. > >> > >> Question: Is there a better way to do what I'm doing? And is there > >> already a piece of software that exists on the NET that does what I'm > >> doing better and I should trying to re-invent the wheel? :-) > > > > > rsnapshot should do it. That looks like an outstanding new app. It appears to implement the technique I use (which I got from Linux Journal I think), which is to make mirror-tree of hardlinks before running an 'rsync --delete' . That lets you save space by storing each unchanged file only once. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my system compromised
I'm not familiar with chkrootkit. It sounds like the Microsoftian antivirus mindset of looking for known compromises, which is a mindset I avoid. My own methodology would be to examine the script in question, and poke around at other files. If the system looks compromised, I'd do a fresh clean install (on a new hard drive, for convenience), move my data files over, make sure the new system is working properly, and wipe the compromised drive. The thing is, once your machine has been compromised, it's hard to know if you've removed every trace. And then focus on prevention, an ounce of which is worth pounds of "cure". According to BTP, > I did as you mention by booting from a knoppix cd and try to check the hard > drive partitions with chkrootkit. Chkrootkit however did not run in the same > typical manner as it does when I invoke it from my Debian console: it > complained about not being able to do everything it's supposed to, I can't > remember the details. > > Also I gave a quick try to install some virus scanner from the Knoppix > software install menu, but I lost my interest into figuring all that out and > did not perform a virus scan. > > I did not find any specific instructions on google for dealing with > compromised systems using knoppix, other than what I tried to do. > > Does anyone have any links or specific hints regarding this?? > > Bart > > > > > > I'd not run anything else from a hard drive I suspect is > > compromised. Reboot with a liveCD and examine it from > > there. > > > > Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gpg error - testing ?
According to Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT, > hi all, > i am getting this when apt-get update : > > W: GPG error: http://secure-testing.debian.net testing/security-updates > Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public > key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 946AA6E18722E71E > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > > how can i fix this error ? look back a week or two- this is a frequently asked question. Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't get 1153x864 resolution with 865 video and i810 driver
... > What's more, now it's starting making a high pitched noise when I use > 1152x864 with my XFree86 system (though not with Windows which is using > a lower refresh rate). I may have damaged it. ... Ouch. I'd check your vsync and hsync frequency ranges and make sure you are driving the monitor within spec. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bloqueo extra?o de las X
... > ... Creo incluso que alguna vez intent? > >usar las X sin mouse. > > ... With the intent of some day maybe running > X without a mouse. [Translator's note: that last sentence doesn't make > much sense to me.] ... Perhaps it's "In addition I think I once tried to start X without mouse attached" ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How many cd I need to install debian (kde)
> > I want to install debian stable/testing on my pc desktop. > > How many cd I need to install only using for desktop (home) with kde. > > I don't want download all cd iso. > well you can use just one, the net-install iso, but it requires a lot of > downloading during the install and if you have connection problems, it could > be difficult. > > For some reason I don't have internet connection all every hours. > if you have decent bandwidth, it shouldn't take very long. I also would recommend the net-install CD- it's a quicker shorter download (150M) than the full CD (600M) images so it should be easier for you to get a full image before your intermittent network connection breaks. And the net-install process also resumes on disconnect fairly well. Or you could even try the bizcard image- it's only 50MB. Regardless- you don't need to download more than one CD image- after packages selected (like KDE) will be happily download from the net. If you are having trouble getting a full image you might want to try wget -c: it can resume a failed download. T -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bloqueo extra?o de las X
According to Mike McCarty, > Tony Godshall wrote: > >... > > > >>... Creo incluso que alguna vez intent? > >> > >>>usar las X sin mouse. > >> > >>... With the intent of some day maybe running > >>X without a mouse. [Translator's note: that last sentence doesn't make > >>much sense to me.] > > > >... > > > >Perhaps it's "In addition I think I once tried to start X > >without mouse attached" ? > > > > > > Well, <> means "to attempt", not "with the intent". > It could be translated "I think one time I also tried to use X > without a mouse." But that doesn't make much sense, because > X *can't* reasonably be run without a mouse :-) But it's > a reasonable translation of the sentence. I assume the ? was an accented "e"- i.e. attempted. Actually I have run X successfully without a mouse- ion2 is a great window manager for that. Apps are another matter. Anyhow, we are hijacking the thread- can anyone help with the OP's question? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Should I Abandon Mutt and Exim4?
> ... I have the instructions to do this in a > file but I have forgotten the vim command to attach it to this message. > I'll re-post it if anyone needs it. Generally one does not attach inside a text editor- that's a MUA function. One can include in vim/vi with... :r (filepath) (enter)Q r is for "read". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSH ate my computer!
According to Edward Shornock, > On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:17:53PM -0800, Tyson Varosyan wrote: > > Per previous thread where I was asking about options for running an > > SSH server on my box, I ran apt-get install ssh. I was asked a few > > simple questions and chose support for SSH 1 & 2 and selected Yes for > > the use of some encryption key protocol. After the install, my box, > > which was working perfectly and took hours to set up is now totally > > hosed!! > > I can't see how it'd be SSH's fault...chalk it up to being a > coincidence. > > > My ppp0 connection connects and dials up without issue. However, for > > whatever reason, it is no longer pingable from the outside. I can ping > > out, but services behind the box can no longer be reached! > > There's no need to remove SSH as that's not the problem, it's just a > coincidence. > > Is this Sarge (stable) or Sid (unstable)? If Sid, see if a package > named "zeroconf" was pulled in as a dependency/recommended package and > if so, remove it with "dpkg -P zeroconf". > If this doesn't work, try to identify the actual package that caused the problem. That way you file a bug against it- which is a major step toward getting it fixed. 1. apt-get -s install ssh ...that tells you which packages would get installed if you installed. Next try to install each package separately and check your network connection after each one. 2. apt-get -s install (pkg)=(version) ...check to see if a particlar package can install simply (with no dependencies). find one that is a simple (one-package) install. 3. apt-get install (pkg)=(version) ... install one of the packages that ssh depends on 4. check to see if your problem has recurred. if not, continue with the next dependent package. if so- that last package was your culprit > Also, check the IP address(es) with "ifconfig" to make sure they're what > you expect them to be. If it starts with 169.x.x.x, I'm sure of it > being zeroconf rearing it's head... Also check with 'route' to see that your default connection is what you expect it to be. If you ifdown connections you aren't using if should be OK. Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I disable USB?
> Anyway, is there any way to force Debian to ignore my USB hardware so > these things don't get loaded in the first place? Easiest way is to disable it in the BIOS. Then it won't show up in lspci or /proc and the various autoloading packages like discover and hotplug won't load the drivers for it. Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file transfer between two debian sarge machines in a lan
... > No matter what mechanism you use for copying, you will need to know the > IP of the box which you are not using to initiate the transfer. ... Actually, no. SMB works without IP addresses- it actually predates use of IP in PC LANs. Check out the Samba howto. Downsides are the usual one for Microsoft-originated technologies. I used to power up a bunch of Windows boxes every morning and if I didn't do it just the right way, many wouldn't see each other and each would assume it was a Network Of One. ;-) Easy ways to identify IP addrs exist- one way is to add a cron job to do something like... /sbin/ifconfig|grep 'inet addr' ...with [EMAIL PROTECTED] But you really are better off fixing your DHCP than fking around with any of these half-solutions. Generally it's as simple as popping though a couple menus in your router's menu. Or just leave your computers on- it's better for their electronics. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommended Firewalls
According to Chris Lale, > Clyde Wilson wrote: > > >I'm on Debian Sarge 3.1 r 1. Can anyone recommend an easy but fairly > >good firewall? > >Thanks for your time! > > If you are talking about a personal firewall for your PC, have alook at ... If you are talking about hardware firewall, most "broadband router" devices provide DHCP/NAT which is adequate for most home users. An unroutable IP address is provided to each internal machine, and incoming packets are blocked unless they are in response to a transaction initiated from inside. These devices don't prevent spyware/viruses coming into machines with stupid operating systems via stupid browsers accessing hostile websites or stupid operating systems with e-mail clients that auto-open hostile attachments, but that's a different matter entirely- firewalls don't generally fix these issues. I guess you should post more about what you are trying to acheive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hacked server
No not as a mirror. No not as raid. Just online/available but not in $PATH, not booted from. BIOS boots from typically CDROM first, IDE0 primary second. If your drive is on IDE1 (or SATA1), BIOS shouldn't load it's boot sector, and Linux shouldn't mount it or run anything off it unless you tell it to (DON'T). Heck, to feel safe, if and when you mount it, mount it with -o noexec, which keeps any binaries from being executed. Of course this may be a no-op right now- the manpage says "This trick fails since Linux 2.4.25 / 2.6.0". According to Jon Miller, > Wouldn't the same rootkits be on the secondary? In a mirror it writes to the > primary then writes to the secondary drive. I plan to keep the drive intact > since I may need files from the drive(s). > > >>> Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3:47:57 pm 18/03/2006 >>> > > If it was me, I'd move the drive to secondary and get a new > drive for primary. Then you can copy and diff and whatever. > If you forgot something, no worries, it's mounted over > there at /olddrive/home/ or /olddrive/etc > > According to Jon Miller, > > I have a hacked server that has a few rootkits installed. I'm going to > > rebuild this using the following procedure: > > 1) backup data files > > 2) copy /etc/*.conf > > 3) either make an image of the system and then blow it away or get new > > drives. > > > > Have I missed out on anything? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Jon L. Miller, ASE, CNS, CLS, MCNE, CCNA > > Director/Sr Systems Consultant > > MMT Networks Pty Ltd > > http://www.mmtnetworks.com.au > > Resellers for: Novell Gold Partner, Cisco Partner, Peopletelecom, Westnet, > > Sophos Anti-Virus, CA Products > > > > "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure > > is trying to please everybody." -Bill Cosby > > Content-Description: HTML > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a hacked server that has a few rootkits installed. I'm > > going > > to rebuild this using the following procedure: > > 1) backup data files > > 2) copy /etc/*.conf > > 3) either make an image of the system and then blow it away or get new > > drives. > > > > Have I missed out on anything? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Jon L. Miller, ASE, CNS, CLS, MCNE, CCNADirector/Sr Systems > > ConsultantMMT Networks Pty Ltd > href="http://www.mmtnetworks.com.au";>http://www.mmtnetworks.com.auResellers > > > > for: Novell Gold Partner, Cisco Partner, Peopletelecom, Westnet, Sophos > > Anti-Virus, CA Products > > > > "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is > > trying > > to please everybody." -Bill Cosby > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > Tony Content-Description: HTML > >Wouldn't the same rootkits be on the secondary? In a mirror it writes >to the primary then writes to the secondary drive. I plan to keep the >drive intact since I may need files from the drive(s). >>>> Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3:47:57 pm 18/03/2006 >>> >If it was me, I'd move the drive to secondary and get a new >drive for primary. Then you can copy and diff and whatever. >If you forgot something, no worries, it's mounted over >there at /olddrive/home/ or /olddrive/etc >According to Jon Miller, >> I have a hacked server that has a few rootkits installed. I'm going >to rebuild this using the following procedure: >> 1) backup data files >> 2) copy /etc/*.conf >> 3) either make an image of the system and then blow it away or get >new drives. >> >> Have I missed out on anything? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Jon L. Miller, ASE, CNS, CLS, MCNE, CCNA >> Director/Sr Systems Consultant >> MMT Networks Pty Ltd >> [1]http://www.mmtnetworks.com.au >> Resellers for: Novell Gold Partner, Cisco Partner, Peopletelecom, >Westnet, Sophos Anti-Virus, CA Products >> >> "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure >> is trying to please everybody." -Bill Cosby >Content-Description: HTML >> >> >> >> >> >> I have a hacked server that has a few rootkits installed. >I'm going >> to rebuild this using the following procedure: >> 1) backup data files >> 2) copy /etc
Re: On Open Source Support of hardware (was: Re: Best Linux Laptop)
According to Rog?rio Brito, > On Mar 19 2006, Manaen Schlabach wrote: > > You might want to consider walking into the store with a Knoppix boot > > CD/DVD and booting the laptop with Knoppix. If it works you know the > > hardware will be supported by Linux. > > And if you are concerned with hardware that works with Free Software, be > careful to see if the CD/DVD hasn't loaded any non-free software, like > ndiswrapper or such other evil things. > > Please, since you are "voting with your wallet" and you are in a > position to choose what to use, don't support those that make the life > of Free Software developers harder. I am ashamed to admit that I voted for Dell the last time around, but they were (sadly) the only ones with the 1920x1280 screen. In my book, the only real feature that counts on a laptop is screen. Sadly, I am using nonfree video (nvidia driver) and network. But if you are satisfied with conventional displays, by all means, vote with your wallet for hardware vendors that are FOSS-friendly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome menu update
According to Christopher Nelson, > On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 05:22:21PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > When/how do the gnome menus get updated? I just installed two programs > > via apt-get and neither shows in either the regular gnome menus nor the > > debian menu even though both have entries in /usr/share/menu. > > If I'm not mistaken, the debian menu system is updated via the > 'update-menus' command. I'm not sure about the gnome menus, I think it > has something to do with programs having .desktop files in some > directory somewhere. I think the Debian menu in gnome is updated by the Debian update-menus command, but the rest of the gnome menus are gnome-specific... you might get more answers asking on a gnome-specific list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netlimiter liike tool
> That is EXCACTLY what I was looking for. Setting limits on the Looking for things in open source that work EXACTLY like commercial tools in Windows is a recipe for failure. People are trying to be helpful and you slap them down. Go troll somewhere else. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Atheros support in Ubuntu, but not Debian?
IIRC the drivers require non-free stuff, or there was some other reason they weren't accepted into the mainstream kernel. See recent Linux Journal for a card that's supportable by Linux w/o proprietary drivers or go with a distrib (e.g. Ubuntu or Xandros or Knoppix) that doesn't mind distributing non-free modules. It should not surprise you that corporate distrutions might have drivers included that DFSG-free distribs would not. According to Jim Crossley, > I recently installed Ubuntu 5.0.4, and my wireless card (D-Link > DWL-G650) just worked. > > I then installed Debian 3.1, and found that it ignored my wireless > card. Googling a bit left me with the impression that getting Debian > to recognize my card is relatively complicated, e.g. > > http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi > http://www.ituprising.com/howto/dlink_dwlg650.html > > Do I really have to do this or is there an easier way? > > TIA, > Jim > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there a software like Bandwidth
According to , > > mrtg??bandwidth??debian > > > is bandwidth in Debian's package?? > > -- > please see http://packages.debian.org Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Program Execution: output does not appear
According to Angelo R. Rossi, > Hello: > > I am using a large molecular dynamics program in the following manner: > > charmm output.file > > The problem is that the file output.file is created, but remains empty. > After a while, the file fills with some output but still holds back > much of it. > > What is happening here? This is the first time anything like this has > happened. Usually, output appears immediately. It seems as if it is > going into a buffer and not being put to the hard drive. > Please help with this. > > I am using debian unstable and uname -a gives: > > Linux thebox 2.6.11 #2 SMP Thu May 26 20:53:11 CEST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux > > Please help if you can. Does doing "sync;sync;sync" help? Does the file size show growth? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Program Execution: output does not appear
According to Tony Godshall, > According to Angelo R. Rossi, > > Hello: > > > > I am using a large molecular dynamics program in the following manner: > > > > charmm output.file > > > > The problem is that the file output.file is created, but remains empty. > > After a while, the file fills with some output but still holds back > > much of it. > > > > What is happening here? This is the first time anything like this has > > happened. Usually, output appears immediately. It seems as if it is > > going into a buffer and not being put to the hard drive. > > Please help with this. > > > > I am using debian unstable and uname -a gives: > > > > Linux thebox 2.6.11 #2 SMP Thu May 26 20:53:11 CEST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux > > > > Please help if you can. > > Does doing "sync;sync;sync" help? > > Does the file size show growth? I think the app needs to to call Unix function fflush(NULL) to flush its buffers to disk. I don't know charmm but I assume it's open source and you can insert such a call. man 3 fflush -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: take your fucking shit out of my computer
According to Tom Allison, > Kenward Vaughan wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 10:45:15PM +0800, rodger wrote: > > > >>Well Well Well: > >>I thought I was the only one.No os is safe not even linux. > >>They Slow down my band width drop trojans in my pc.Turn of my security > >>tools > >>and hide themselves and are Being smart arese in general. > >>Big brother is watching us all. > > > > > >Yet another example of why those grammar and writing classes are really > >important. Imagine a human resource person reading something like this > >on an application ... If you're still in school, pay heed! > > > > > >Kenward > > I thought he was just pissed off because he installed KDE on a Pentium > 75 with 64MB of RAM on it and thought it was all our fault! Funny, I don't think I even saw the original. Perhaps all the misspellings added up to a bayesian spam hit. Somehow I can't bring myself to go check. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ubunto vs. Debian
According to Thomas Hood, > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:51:57 -0500, Benjamin Sher wrote: > > My point was simple: If you are going to get a derivative of Debian > > or Red Hat or whatever, you will never have the perfect > > compatibility that is often promised but cannot be delivered. You > > will have it only with the original distro. > > Good point. > > Sometimes, though, compatibility with the original distribution > ceases to be important because the original distribution has > been superseded by something else. > > Debian has fundamental organizational problems which lead me to > think that it won't be able to keep up with improvements in > Ubuntu. If that is so then there is a good chance that Ubuntu > will replace Debian as the standard dpkg-based distribution. Oh, please share. I would think a collaboration of people around the world is more likely to survive than a corporation. After all, a corporation has a payroll to meet. It dies if it doesn't make money. It dies if it's corporate culture causes developers to stagnate. It dies if it seems to be a poor citizen and unpaid developers stop contributing out of anger. It dies if the nation it is chartered in decides to pass a law against it. It dies if principled developers will contribute only to a nonprofit. There are a lot more ways for a commercial distribution to fail than for a distributed fog of an entity to fail. Debian. It's everywhere. And nowhere. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ugly X fonts on laptop [Re: OK, a second try: New Debian User needs help!]
Hi. This list has a lot of traffic, so most people just read subject lines and read if pertinent. So you're more likely to get help if your subject line is specific enough for someone to be able to tell if they have any expertise in your issue. Generally, for X issues, you'll probably want to provide your XF86Config-4 file and the output of lspci and the output of X -probeonly. According to Hans-Peter Sulzer, > Hi! > > I'm Peter. Sound works now again (I don't know why, but > it works :-)). > > I know a little bit about Unix (e. g. ls, cp, cat, even: > > ~# cat < ~/append_to_myfile > I am appending to "append_to_myfile" > A second line > EOF > ~# cat ~/append_to_myfile > I am appending to "append_to_myfile" > A second line > ~# > > (This is pure Martin F. Krafft syntax ? sorry for that - > but it's cool.) > > Okay, now my problem: > > First: Sound works now again (I don't know why). I have > adjusted my Debian installation to work with the native > resolution of my notebook (1280x800), but the fonts look > horrible :-( They are nearly unreadable :-( It seems, > that antialising corrupts them - DUNNO. > > What must I supply, so that you can help me? > > Peter > -- > peter_sulzer doesn't like spam and this is my domain: > t-online.de > -- Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network notification
According to ? v, > hey guys, i have a small problem with my network cable becomeing unplugged > on my laptop, is there any program that will notify me with a popup or > something when it does become unplugged? it doesnt come out of the jack but > just enough to drop the connection, it gets quite annoying when i am > chatting only to find out half of the messeges havent made to the > destination because of the cable. can anyone help me? In /etc/network/interfaces you can add 'up ' and 'down ' stanzas to the paragraph of the interface in question. Clearly there's no xauth in that environment, so lazy me uses 'wall' (I always have an xterm up). Having it pop up a GUI notification is an exercise I'll leave to others. (Hint: you'll probably have to set DISPLAY and do an xauth merge) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't get more than 1024x768 even with the on-board card properly detected (XFree86+KDE 3.3)
... > I only get at most 1024x768 in KDE 3.3 (and I think in gdm too) (in fact, > the pulldown menu shows just up to this resolution) > > How can I fix this? > > Related note: I see I have both XF86Config and XF86Config-4.. which one is > my system using? How can I tell? Why are there both? IIRC, X 4.x uses XF86Config-4 first, and if it can't find it uses XF86Config. What version of X do you have? I've had pretty good luck on newish chipsets and lcd displays by ... 1. have only one of XF86Config-4 and XF86Config (I use -4) 2. comment out the Modes line in XF86Config-4 and add one that has *only* the native res. 3. Upgrade X to the one from testing or unstable (i.e. one that's likely to recognize and understand the ideosyncracies of more chipsets) #1 might fix it, or you may have to go to #2 or #3. If #3 doesn't work, try a Modes line that has one of the more conventional resolutions (example: my Dell has a native rez of 1920x1200 but I had to run it at 1600x1200 [black on sides] till I got the special nvidia module). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Editing the menu
/etc/menu/README ... : In this directory, the system administrator can install menufiles to : override the menu files provided by Debian in /usr/lib/menu and : /usr/share/menu/default. : : The filename should be the name of the package that it is overwriting, : and may contain as many lines and menu entries as necessary. : : Please run 'update-menus' after changing or adding files. : : For more info, please read /usr/share/doc/menu/html. IIRC, the same menu structure then applies to all compliant window managers, not just gnome. According to Inhabitant of Zion, > Hi > > I am running sarge and using the Gnome that ships with it. > > I have some stuff that I want to move around on the menu. For instance I > would like to create a folder and move all the burner program launchers > (like K3b) into it. Also there are a couple of things like Tellico that > just don't seem to find their way onto the menu that i would like to > add. > > In mandrake there was a thing called menu-drake IIRC but can't seem to > find anything similar for Debian, so far, that suggests it does this > sort of thing. > > Anybody able to point me in the right direction. > > Cheers > > -- > John Willby Registered Linux user number 321644 > ICQ: 92791912 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti > catapultas habebunt > 00:02:14 up 4 days, 3:34, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.11, 0.07 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best Regards, Tony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]