Re: We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?
Sergey V Kovalyov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > libpam-ldap will allow password change. The rest have to be done > manually (or through some customized software. I am considering > Ganymede.) Although there is a nice package pam-mkhomedir that will > automatically create homedirs (and copy /etc/skel stuff) if it does > not exist. Where can I find that script? I think we're going to go with ldap, so I'm going to have to figure out how we want to handle adding/deleting users, etc. I suppose I'll just whip up some scripts, but I wouldn't mind having a good one as a reference. First I need to look in to ldap and see what the tools are for editing the database from the command line (if that's possible). Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).
OCALNET" ) slapd[24001]: > cache_find_entry_dn2id: found dn: OU=PEOPLE,DC=LOCALNET slapd[24001]: <= dn2id 2 (in cache) slapd[24001]: => id2entry_w( 2 ) slapd[24001]: > cache_find_entry_dn2id: found id: 2 rw: 1 slapd[24001]: entry_rdwr_wtrylock: ID: 2 slapd[24001]: <= id2entry_w 0x808ca30 (cache) slapd[24001]: => access_allowed: entry (ou=People, dc=localnet) attr (children) slapd[24001]: => acl_get: entry (ou=People, dc=localnet) attr (children) slapd[24001]: => acl_get: edn OU=PEOPLE,DC=LOCALNET slapd[24001]: => acl_get: [1] check attr children slapd[24001]: => dnpat: [2] .* nsub: 0 slapd[24001]: => acl_get:[2] backend ACL match slapd[24001]: => acl_get: [2] check attr children slapd[24001]: <= acl_get: [2] backend acl ou=People, dc=localnet attr: children slapd[24001]: => acl_access_allowed: write access to entry "ou=People, dc=localnet" slapd[24001]: => acl_access_allowed: write access to value "any" by "CN=ADMIN,OU=PEOPLE,DC=LOCALNET" slapd[24001]: <= check a_dnpat: CN=ADMIN, OU=PEOPLE, DC=LOCALNET slapd[24001]: => string_expand: pattern: CN=ADMIN, OU=PEOPLE, DC=LOCALNET slapd[24001]: => string_expand: expanded: CN=ADMIN, OU=PEOPLE, DC=LOCALNET slapd[24001]: => regex_matches: string: CN=ADMIN,OU=PEOPLE,DC=LOCALNET slapd[24001]: => regex_matches: rc: 1 no matches slapd[24001]: <= acl_access_allowed: denied by default (no matching by) slapd[24001]: => access_allowed: exit (ou=People, dc=localnet) attr (children) slapd[24001]: no access to parent slapd[24001]: send_ldap_result 50:: slapd[24001]: > cache_return_entry_w slapd[24001]: entry_rdwr_wunlock: ID: 2 slapd[24002]: do_unbind Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You don't really need this, just a simple detect/backoff algorithm will do > OK for determining the UIDs Could you elaborate? If you have at least two machines, I can't see how you don't have to have a shared locking mechanism to make sure they don't both try to add the same user to the ldap database with different uid's, or are there some ldap semantics that allow you to avoid the race condition. > > 2) get the next user id (how?). [1] > > The only way I could see is to suck down the entire UID list and pick the > highest, it is a big search, but ldap doesn't have a mechanism for > integer value compares so it is the best I could think of. It won't be that big here. Ldap's only going to be managing the local users, and there will only be a handful or two. And if I just mandate that all account maintenance (add/delete/modify) be handled from a single machine, I could just store the last uid/gid in a local state file. This would also avoid the problems in the previosu point above. > > 5) Run a script to do whatever's needed to create the user's home > > directory in all the right places [1]. > > The pam_mkhomedir module I cooked up is what I think we will ultimately > use on debian.org, the home dirs just spring into existance on the first > login. Saves resources+headaches Right, but that doesn't help if you need to do something more complicated (or even just different). It might be nice to modify the mkhomedir module to use a config file, and just have that config file allow you to specify the script to be run to handle things. The default could be something like /sbin/pam-mkhomedir which would have the current behavior. Of course, maybe it just makes sense for us to take pam-mkhomedir and modify it for our purposes. Here we really just need it to make sure the user's CODA volume is available and ready. I'm wondering if there's anything I'm going to have to do here that could be generalized and useful to others, or if it's just going to be too domain specific to be useful to anyone else. (Oh, and I guess you didn't have any idea why my script was failing with authentication problems?) Thanks for the help. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You use the same technique as ethernet basically, both add and check > if their was only one added (using a search on the ID they added) > then remove and retry a new id after a delay. Oh, right, of course. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yea, this one stumped me for quite a while to. From section 5.3 of > the Slapd administrators guide: NOTE: The DN pattern specified > should be "normalized", meaning that there should be no extra > spaces, and commas should be used to separate components. An example > normalized DN is "cn=Babs Jensen,o=University of Michigan,c=US". An > example of a non-normalized DN is "cn =Babs Jensen; o=University of > Michigan, c=US". Is the Slapd administrator's guide available on-line, or is that the actually published book you're talking about? > So you need to get rid of the spaces in your access line. i.e.: > > access to * by dn="cn=admin,ou=People,dc=localnet" write Ooh, nasty. This was exactly the problem. Thanks so much for the help. No one would have wanted to be around me by the time I would probably have figured this out myself... > I'll go ahead and report this to the openldap maintainer. Great, thanks. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Further work on LDAP passwords (working on an ldap-adduser).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yup, it's at http://www.umich.edu/~dirsvcs/ldap/doc/guides/slapd/ Thanks. I don't know how I overlooked that. I noticed in the README for libpam-ldap that you need to use some secure socket mechanism if you really want an ldap setup to be secure. Is there a doc somewhere that explains the best way to set that up? The README mentions several alternatives (CRAM-MD5 and SSL/TLS), but I don't know enough to know which would be preferable or how to set them up. Also, I'm wondering if it would be useful (if it hasn't been done already) to generate chsh and chfn replacements (like the passwd one) to handle changing the attributes in the ldap server rather than locally when the user's info is in ldap. I suppose this would require augmentation of the pam-apps package... Is there any overriding plan to integrate all this stuff? What would be nearly ideal is if there were a config file somewhere where you could just tell the system that all user accounts should be handled by ldap and have all the appropriate tools do the right thing. This looks like the direction things are going with libpam-ldap, but I didn't know if that was the final goal. Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Some email bounces = misconfigured exim?
George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is also a correct method. By setting your HELO to the name your IP > address resolves to, you are assured of delivery to most every site that > accepts mail from ISP dialups. Right. I get the same effect (though there's a minor bug because DNS isn't always happy as soon as the IP address changes) from my dhcpcd script with exim like this: #!/bin/sh source /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth1.info logger echo "`date` dhcpcd-sv: IP address changed to $IPADDR" RR_NAME=`host ${IPADDR} ${DNS} | grep Name | cut -b 7-` # Tell exim what happened. (cd /etc && \ perl -pi -e "s/^RR_HOSTNAME = (.*)/RR_HOSTNAME = ${RR_NAME}/o" exim.conf) exit 0 And I just have this in my exim.conf file: # This is who we want to be known as. It also affects the outgoing # HELO messages, so you want it to match exim's outgoing IP RR_HOSTNAME = cs2868-35.austin.rr.com primary_hostname = RR_HOSTNAME etc. > Note that many mailhosts not only refuse mail from blocks of IP > addresses that are known dialups but also reject mail from > hostsnames including such patterns as "cust" or "dialup" or > "dynamic" Yep. I haven't really had a problem (that I know of) with this, but it's a choice between two evils. If I do this, I risk being shut out by people that block dynamic ip's, but if I use the RR smtp relay, then I'm relying on RR to keep their server up and well maintained and that doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling either... -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
ldap/pam problem
Before I ask more detailed questions, I wanted to know if I really need to edit the /etc/pam.d files presuming that I've modified my /etc/nsswitch.conf file? If so, then when I tried those modifications, I couldn't figure out how to get reasonable behavior. If you have auth sufficient pam_ldap.so auth required pam_unix_auth.so try_first_pass then if the entry is found in ldap, pam returns and you never execute things like motd, etc. which is not what you want. Presuming that setting up /etc/nsswitch.conf is sufficient, I still can't get things to work. If I try to log in as a normal (non-ldap) user, everything's fine, and I can see that it's asking the ldap server for the user and getting no answer (as an aside, it looks like it's asking the ldap server for a bunch of fields that the MigrationTools didn't create (shadowmax, shadowmin, etc)). Then it lets that user log in as usual based on their shadow passwd entry. However, if I try to log in as stray (which is the user that has no shadow passwd/group entry, but has an ldap entry), it never even asks the ldap server, it just fails. If I try su instead, I get "su: problem establishing PAM_RUSER" also with no attempt to contact the ldap server. I think I got my pam_ldap.conf right -- the relevant lines should be: base ou=People,dc=localnet pam_filter objectclass=account My nsswitch.conf reads as indicated in the libnss-ldap readme: passwd: files nis ldap group: files nis ldap shadow: files nis ldap (I didn't know about shadow, but I presumed it should be the same as the others). And I can tell that the entry for stray is in the ldap database because I can see it with ldapsearch: $ ldapsearch -h localhost -v -b ou=People,dc=localnet "(& (uid=stray) (objectclass=account))" ldap_init( localhost, 0 ) filter pattern: (& (uid=stray) (objectclass=account)) returning: ALL filter is: ((& (uid=stray) (objectclass=account))) uid=stray,ou=People,dc=localnet uid=stray cn=stray objectclass=top objectclass=account objectclass=posixAccount loginshell=/bin/bash uidnumber=1008 gidnumber=1008 homedirectory=/home/stray gecos=,,, 1 matches Any help would be appreciated. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: ldap/pam problem
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I used this complex invokation, you'll need an appropriately bug-fixed pam > library (Ben, you have my patches..) That's nice. Thanks. That solves at least part of my problem, though I'm beginning to think that we may be better off cobbling up something here that's more tailored to our needs and quit spending so much time dealing with fairly bleeding edge stuff. I may give it one more go tomorrow... Thanks again. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: How to remove a user
David Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think you issue the command > > userdel -r username > > to remove both user, the home directory and files, but RTFM > to be sure. Note that this won't get any files the user might have in locations other than their home directory, and I don't know if it deletes their group (though it probably does). To find and delete all the files the user owns, you'll need something like this (as root): find / -name username -o -group usergroup > /tmp/usersfilelist Then you can delete all the files in usersfilelist. This probably won't catch things like the user's crontab or any "at" tasks. You'll have to handle those manually, and to be truly safe, you need to lock the user out before doing this (I've forgotten the magic command for that, but you can just change their password with passwd and use who or w to make sure they're not currently logged in). Hope this helps. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Partition hosed. Is there a way to find the superblock?
I did something stupid (not rebooting after a re-partition), and so now after I finally did reboot, I've got a partition with a bunch of data on it that can't be mounted. Both mount and e2fsck complain about not being able to find the superblock. I can get some of the data off of it by just running strings on the partition, but I'd really rather find the superblock and bring it back to life. The data there is not critical (it's just my Debian mirror partition), but I'd rather not have to reconstruct that through my modem link if I don't have to. Is there some "magic number" or unique header I can search for that will tell me where one of the (backup) super blocks is stored? Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I did the best I could at replacing all the "critical" functionality with > control keys so that ae can function in both a dumb terminal as well as > the full featured console. Because of the limited choices the alphabet > provides, I was not able to convert all the keys to control keys, so the > block, cut, and paste functions, the help key, undo, and case flip are > still controled by the function keys. I am taking suggestions for control > key sequences for these functions, and will do what I can to convert all > of them in the near future. Well, if you're emulating emacs, I'd thing that mapping block -> C-space cut-> C-w paste -> C-y undo -> C-u (not really right, I know...) might make sense. And what about C-? for help? All this predicated on the fact that I know exactly none of the restrictions on the choices.. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New ae uploaded to Incoming
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > C-? is fine for those environments where it's not DEL, but the proper > way to implement help has all unbound keys suggest the cannonical help > key (for example: "press F1 for help"). Ok, but Dale's trying to find control bindings for everything, in addition to the function keys, I believe for terminals where the function keys don't work right. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP DAT drives
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes: > Does anyone out there have experience with Hewlett-Packard SCSI DAT > drives, specifically the 12/24 GB models? I'm thinking about getting > a backup system for my computer (which has 12 GB of HDDs), and this > seems to be the best deal out there. Do they cooperate nicely with > other devices (HDDs) on a SCSI bus? Does `dump' work okay with them? > How loud is one of them; would it wake up me or my roommate when it > kicks in for a backup at 3:00 a.m.? DAT drives make very little noise if you keep the data streaming to them as fast as they can handle it. If you don't they may make clicking noises every now and then. I'd highly recommend you look into amanda. I use it here, and as long as you're willing to spring for more tapes than you probably originally intended, it does a wonderful job. I also recommend turning off the drive's hardware compression and letting amanda handle it with gzip (unless CPU time is a big deal). -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I am requesting is that the submitter of a bug take some time, in > exchange for the time they expect from the maintainer, and verify that the > bug has not been reported already. If it has, it is appropriate to send > the maintainer a confirmation that you also experienced the bug and any > additional information you can contribute to the solution. This > confirmation should be CC'd to the original bug report, for continuity > purposes. But creating an additional report is both confusing and > administrativly ugly. This should be mandated (I thought it was). Not that I've always been as careful as I should have been, but I've tried to be pretty good. It's extremely helpful (especially for high-traffic-area/critical packages like X and libc) that you not end up with floods of redundant bugs. > I am not looking to stifle information flow about bugs. I am suggesting > that if the reporter of the bug will spend some time "doing the filing" > correctly the task becomes possible and the end user and the maintainer > both benefit. Not only that, but the user might discover a workaround in the bug log that helps them out. This might be the best way to "sell" the idea :> -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Make bug reporting any more onerous than it is, and peole > merely stop filing reports. I suppose there is something to that. > For the most part the maintainer knows the bugs on a package > better than anyone else, and the maintainers are fairly well versed > in the Bug system; merging bugs is not all that hard. Yeah, I just got finished merging several duplicate bugs for emacsen-common. > Yes. It is a good idea. It just should not be mandatory. OK, I'll buy that. We should just *suggest* it then. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minor inittab/serial console question...
I've set up one of my headless machines to use ttyS0 as a serial console, and I've also set it up to run getty on that port after it finishes booting. Using minicom from another machine, I can monitor the other machine's serial port and see that everything works fine. After it boots, I can log in, etc, and I can even interact with LILO using it's "serial=" option, but now I'd like to set it up so that the non-headess machine automatically puts its ttyS0 (the one connected to the headless machine's serial console) on one of its virtual terminals. Is there an easy way to do that? I've hunted around the HOWTOs and linux/Documentation/* and I can't find anything relevant. Any help or RTFMs would be appreciated. Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: script command question
Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Cool. Thanks. I needed an example of how to get the script to > receive the text to be filtered. This'll help a lot. Thanks again. You might also be interested in the filterm program from the konwert package. I came across that today and from a brief inspection, I recall that it may do what you want. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Minor inittab/serial console question...
Seth R Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rob, why not do everything via telnet or ssh? two network cards can be had > for under $50 if the machines don't already have network cards.. The serial console is to handle cases where the machine can't even boot to the telnet or ssh stage. This machine is critical, so even if it goes down when I'm away, I want to be able to dial up another machine on it's local net and reach it's console via the serial port. Then I can fix whatever's wrong (even lilo problems) and reboot it (via X10 power cycling). It's also just nice to be able to watch the machine's boot messages now and then without having to put a video card in there to make sure everything's OK. > (sorry for the lack of real response, I don't know how to do what you > want... so I will try to find out why you want it. :) Well, now that I think about it, I'm not sure I want what I thought I wanted. I wasn't thinking too clearly last night (too much time spent setting up a mess of stuff). What I'd really like is some little daemon on the machine connected to the headless machine that watches and logs the serial port output, and that you could connect to whenever you wanted (access would be exclusive) to communicate with the other machines console and to page back through the log. That daemon would "own" the port. Sort of a virtual virtual terminal... For now I get 90% of what I want just using minicom, so I'll probably just stick with that... Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: sb live card under debian
"Jim Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a driver for the sound blaster live card? > I have the sb.o module installed but don't quite get how to get it started, > it says i/o icq and dma is required. > > so I'm not show to do the i/o as it don't like i as an argument. > > modprobe i=6500 o=651f irq=9 dma=1 As far as I know the SBLive is completely unusable under Linux, and Creative Labs is refusing to give any programming info for the card so there may not be a free-software driver in the near future. But you can get good PCI cards that are supported for about $20 now, so it's not that big a deal. See www.alsa-project.org for one list of supported cards. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: emacs or xemacs ?
"Richard E. Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also, using emacs on CCIE (*Control Key In Exile) keyboard, causing > enough long reaches on my little finger sthat I had to see a quack, > is probably part (put a minor part) of my avoiding either. You probably know this, but you can easily remap caps-lock etc. to be control... Also, you can get a better keyboard for about $3 at goodwill here. Of course that still won't help you if you prefer vim ... nothing will :> (holy-war-aversion-disclaimer: Yes, that was a joke, and yes, I prefer emacs, but no, I don't think it's for everyone, and yes, I have used vi (minimally), and can understand the appeal.) FWIW -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Minor inittab/serial console question...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Paul McHale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Can you boot Linux without a video card installed ? I would have thought > >the BIOS would have had a problem with that ... > > Yup, works just fine. In fact, if you have the serial console support > compiled in, the kernel will detect that you don't have a VGA console > and automatically use /dev/ttyS0 as console. And for the final touch, you can tell lilo about the serial port and have it use that too. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Minor inittab/serial console question...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes: > I know what you want. You want to run "minicom" in a "screen" session. > Start it once, detach it whenever you want, attach it later. Hmm. Interesting. I've never used screen. I'll have to see how it works. I was worried about security, but if screen forces you to authenticate whenever you attach to a session, then that might work well. Would there be any reason I wouldn't want to have this session started at boot time as some desginated user so that it's always capturing that serial port's output? Also, I wonder if minicom can be configured to log all the I/O during a run... I'll go see when I get a chance. Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?
We've got a number of machines here that we need to switch to centralized account maintenance, and I was trying to figure out what the best solution would be. It looks like the two main solutions would be NIS or ldap (via PAM), but I'm having a hard time finding out enough about the ldap solution to do a good comparison. Is there a good HOWTO or similar somewhere? Is there some other solution I've overlooked. (I thought about just using a cron job and a sync script to keep all the passwd/group files in sync, but that requires you to be able to atomically update the files, and I couldn't see a good way to do that...perhaps some trick with chpasswd/add/deluser... Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?
"Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But if you're not ready for potato then NIS will provide a > ready-made solution. It's pretty straightforward. I'd be glad to > offer assistance. As for a comparison, well, they're different. NIS > has been around a long time, LDAP is newer. Thanks to both of you for the help. We're running all unstable here so getting the ldap packages isn't a problem, but I wasn't completely sure what the tradeoffs are. I'll go look at the web sites Ben mentioned. Actually I had already seen the ldap pacakges, but I wasn't quite sure where to start. I was hoping for a HOWTO or something, but I can always just jump in and figure it out as I poke around. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: mailers
Brian Schramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > alias support for addresses > grouping of addresses > threading of email (for lists) > some kind of sorting on reciept of a massage ( for news reports) > easy to use > reliable file transfer (for attached documents) > find a message on a search of the header or body > > Let's here your favorite that can handle most of the above if not all. I'd recommend Gnus if you like emacs, and mutt if you don't. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: What to do with a tape drive?
Carl Mummert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The easiest way to do incremental backups is to use a prewritten > package. I used 'tob' for a while, and it worked fine, although you > may have to spend an hour or two configuring it the first time. Also well worth investigating is amanda (www.amanda.org). It's probably more complex than most single machine users need, but it's certainly a solution you're unlikely to outgrow. I use it both at home and at work. However, it does require that you be willing to accomodate its model... -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: ssh @ pseudo ttys
Ian Keith Setford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just installed a new box but when I try to ssh in I recieve this > error: > > Warning: Remote host failed or refused to allocate a pseudo tty > > Thisonly happens with sshas I can telnet in and out with no > problems. Anybody know where the problems is? Or how I can turn > off the pseudo ttys altogether? My experience was that I had to recompile my kernels with psuedo-tty support (this meant that I had to have a new enough kernel). This was a fairly aggravating problem for one remote install. It might be nice if the preinst warned about this, especially if it can check in /proc to see if ssh is likely to be hosed after the install. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: Emacs and suidunregister
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I read the man page for suidregister, and it seems to me that when I > purged Emacs19 and Emacs20 (and all related binaries), not > everything was cleaned-up. It also seems to me that this might be a > bug. > > Can anyone confirm, or suggest what I did wrong? (I don't think it > will be any problem to correct.) This was a bug in the way I was calling suidunregister in the emacs20 postinst. I *think* it's fixed in the newer packages. If you have a reasonably inexpensive net connection, try installing the current emacs20 and then purging it. If that doesn't fix the problem, let me know. If you pay for downloads by the byte, then let me know and I'll investigate it here first. Thanks. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: mail clients
Stephen Pitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > See /usr/doc/exim/filter.txt.gz > It answered all of my questions. See also "info exim-filter". -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?
Sergey V Kovalyov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When you install libnss-ldap, there is a short howto in > /usr/doc/libnss-ldap > I also suggest downloading conversion tools from www.padl.com, which will > help populate the LDAP database OK. I'm back working on this, and I've gotten openldap etc. installed, and I've gotten the migration tools, read the HOWTO, and played with gq to see that I can actually see my database, and I'm about ready to try and cram my passwd/group stuff in there. However, from looking at the migration tools, it seems that they can translate a lot more than just passwd/group stuff like services, protocols, aliases, fstab, etc. So I'm a little curious now. I'd like to get a brief overview of the overall picture. Are people using ldap much for things like fstab? If so, how would that actually work, and how would it interact with other package upgrades? (I can see how accounts work via glibc2 and libpam-ldap/libnss-ldap.) Also, I'm wondering what, if any, the security concerns are relating to ldap access to passwd etc. Can someone give me a brief overview or point me at an appropriate doc? I haven't found one yet. Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: We need centralized accounts -- Any docs for ldap passwords?
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Documentation is a little lacking in this area. The main reason for > putting things like fstab, etc, into ldap is for diskless clients > and large network configurations (think centralizing). If you don't > see an immediate need for it, chances are you wont benefit from > it. Currently the most common use of ldap for name services are > shadow/passwd/group, mail aliases (exim can compile with ldap > support, as well as sendmail), and hosts information. OK, so it sounds like we just need shadow/passwd/group support, and as far as I can tell we should be mostly good to go if we 1) firewall access to the ldap server from outside our subnet. 2) import etc/group and passwd via migrate_.pl 3) edit our nssswitch.conf as directed in /usr/doc/libnss-ldap/README 4) cross our fingers. What I don't really know is how doing this interacts with the normal mechanisms. I would presume that we can just use LDAP for user accounts, and leave the system accounts in /etc/passwd, etc. I'm guessing from the nsswitch entry it'll just fall back to that if LDAP fails on a given lookup, but how does LDAP interact with adduser, userdel, addgroup, /usr/bin/passwd, etc. Does it update the right things, or do we have to do manual synchs? If the latter, then it seems like it might be worth us considering not using LDAP at all, and just whipping up some ssh synch thingy for these bits... > Hope this clears some things up. It helps a lot. Thanks. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
ATTN: stalin users (slightly OT)
Apologies for the slightly off-topic message, but I know of no other way to reach the Debian stalin users. The upstream author Jeffrey Siskind has asked if I could ask those who find stalin useful to send him a message stating such. He needs feedback to use during his evaluation to convince his employers to allow him to keep spending time on this project. Taking a few moments to contact the him will translate fairly directly into corporate support for a free software project if enough relevant people do it. Thanks Here's specifically what he asked: From: Jeffrey Mark Siskind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: stalin: patch for sparc compile. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:42:33 -0400 Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the patch. It looks OK to me. BTW, is there any way to get a measure of how many people are using Stalin through Debian? I'm going through my evaluation now and it would help me if I could say to my committee something like `at least n people are using Stalin as obtained through Debian'. Even better would be feedback from users. One or two line statements are fine. Something like `I use Stalin to support my research in widgets. I find that for my task, code compiled by Stalin runs x% faster than code produce by Foo-C, the previous Scheme compiler that I was using. Without Stalin, I would not be able to conduct my research.' Jeff (http://www.neci.nj.nec.com/homepages/qobi) -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP=E80E0D04F521A094 532B97F5D64E3930
Re: mail and mailer questions
Stephen Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am interested in looking into a new mail setup and I am looking > for some information and recomendations My highest recommendation is Gnus. It's a fantastic mail program that runs inside emacs, and handles news, so most of what you learn for mail is applicable for news or for more general emacs editing purposes. It probably has more features than you could (would want to) ever use. Gnus easily handles threading your mail and news, and splitting your incoming mail into different groups (mailboxes) based on whatever criteria you like. You'd use fetchmail to download your mail to your machine and then Gnus to deal with it, and I'd recommend using the Gnus nnmail backend which stores each message as a separate file, and is faster than the other backends. There are of course other good mail programs. I used to use mh (and exmh) before I switched to Gnus. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smail help required [urgentish]
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Will exim support different alias files for different domains? I've > got the hideous smail method for doing that installed -- duplicating > the configuration files in another directory and using dodgy > transports. This is an important requirement here. I believe it will. You just need multiple directors, each one handling a different domain. exim will take the answer from whichever director has one. From the info pages: * If an address is local, it is passed to each configured director in turn until one is able to handle it. If none can, the address is failed. Directors can be targeted at particular local domains, so several local domains can be processed entirely independently of each other. Is that what you meant? -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linix
SKILLS123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, I am new to this Linix thingy I am interested in Debian, > because I heard its very good. Yes. > I want to know, can I have Win95 and > Debian on my computer? Yes. > And how, do I install and download the file(s)? Please advise... > Thanks, Matt ftp ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/frozen/main/disks-i386/install.txt or ftp ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/install.txt I think those pointers are correct. Alternately you can check out the web pages at www.debian.org. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unidentified subject!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Thinking I wanted to see if the sendmail package now has a better install > script, I have now uninstalled smail, and installed sendmail. I think I am > over my heard. If you're going to move from smail to anything else at the moment, I'd recommend exim over sendmail unless you're already really comfortable with sendmail. There's even been some noise recently about Debian switching from smail to exim as the default mailer. With respect to your fetchmail problems, holler again if exim doesn't fix the problem, and I'll see what I can suggest. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim/Fetchmail (Re:Was Unidentified subject!)
Mike Acklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I get an error message from the POP3 server that the name is not > acceptable. It wants a domain name on it. Right, I'm pretty sure this is a DNS config problem. Are you running bind on this machine, or are you just using /etc/hosts? > One of the guys on IRC said this was one of the FAQ's and had me place > "receiver_unqualified_net = 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0" in my /etc/exim.conf file. I think this is on the right track. If you aren't running bind, what do your /etc/hosts, /etc/nsswitch.conf, and /etc/resolv.conf files look like? This problem can probably be fixed by either changes to one of these files, or by a change to /etc/exim.conf. > Is there somewhere I can find a FAQ or Howto for exim or > fetchmail. I have tried the EXIM home page, but to no avail. The best source for docs on exim is to install the exim-doc package, and then run "info exim". There's also a great mailing list where you can nearly always get all the help you need. It should be listed in the docs. Also check out /usr/doc/exim/* -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP installing (Hamm)
Mike Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Problem: Once I get into the actual system, it seems to have ignored my > network settings (ifconfig and route both return just loopback > settings) and /proc/devices doesn't have an eth device listed. So > I try to run pppd-- apparently my old scripts won't work as it doesn't > recognize the command "+ua" anymore. The last bit I know. >From /usr/doc/ppp/README.gz * Pppd options beginning with - or + have been renamed, e.g. -ip became noip, +chap became require-chap, etc. The old options are still accepted for compatibility but may be removed in future. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using SUN's monitor in PC ?
"Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There's also a site which tells you > how to build a circuit to allow you to drive it here: > > http://cvs.anu.edu.au/monitorconversion/sun.html Is there similar information available on the feasibility of using an NCD Xterminal's monitor on a PC or a PC's monitor on an NCD Xterminal? Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple smail questions
Otavio Exel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - I saw a message here stating (not in these words) that "smail is dead; > use exim instead"; is it true? I can see that smail is still > (according to Debian) the "reccomended MTA for Debian"! note that I'm > not spam-asking which one you use! :-) I have no idea if smail is "dead", but there has been some discussion about making exim the default mailer. Personally, I use exim. I started with sendmail, switched to qmail, realized that qmail was likely to stay non-free, and then switched to exim, which has worked quite well. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for > the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X). It has a text mode as well. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any command to spin down a *scsi* drive?
I know you can use hdparm to set the spin-down period on an IDE drive, but is there a similar command for SCSI drives? Thanks -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel compilation
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Not to mention that I personally run devel kernels for various > reasons. Huh? I'm running make-kpkg compiled versions of the 2.1.79 and 2.1.87 built from the source I downloaded from ftp.kernel.org the other day. What's your point? And when I discovered the chown problem with the 2.1.8(early) kernels, it took me one command: $ sudo dpkg -i /usr/local/src/kernel-images/ kernel-image-2.1.79_1.0_i386.deb and a reboot to fix it. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel compilation
Jan Vroonhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > iii) Doing it this way forces you to be root to do a kernel compile. > > I know this probably more of a problem with the packaging system > itself. However it would be very nice if this could be changed. There > should be no need to be root to compile a kernel, only when installing > it. That's what the fakeroot package is for. $ fakeroot make-kpkg --revision foo.1.0 kernel_image will do what you want. No root required. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Kernel compilation
Jan Vroonhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is fakeroot building the norm in hamm? It is for me. Except that when you're working on a normal package, I tend to do: $ fakeroot debian/rules binary during development, and then $ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot when I'm finishing up. -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!
Shawn Asmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > H... Well, that's news to me. I wasn't aware that pppd would > redial. FWIW see the persist option in the pppd man page. That will make it redial on failure. -- Rob
Re: pppd keep-alive cron script (was Re: Why is PPP so screwed up!?!?!)
Nils Rennebarth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why don't you let init do this job? Or see the pppd "persist" option in the pppd man page. The lcp options Nils mentioned are probably a good idea too. -- Rob
Re: turning off computer
I Brake for Moths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a way for a user without root priveleges to cleanly unmount the > root file system and shutdown the computer? > > I've been running 'init 0' as root before turning off the box, but I > don't want to have to give out the root password to my family (it's bad > enough that I know it!) just so they can turn the thing off when I'm not > around. We'd rather not leave it on when it is not in use. I would suggest investigating sudo. It's designed to allow you let some other users run some commands as root. -- Rob
Re: Idea for the burner
William Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > pain to configure it to install one package... The problem isn't with a > lack of dselect documentation, IMHO, but due to the way dselect is setup. > However, one can argue that dselect is for initial installations, and the > dpkg utilities under dselect are for everyday usage, which works out quite > nicely in general... At least for me, once I figured out that "/" would search the select list, installing single packages became no big deal... -- Rob
Re: Locate
Pete Poff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > when I use locate I get an error. This is what I get if I type > like locate . Like locate new.stuff. I get locate: > /var/lib/locate/locatedb: No suck file or directory. Can anyone tell me > why? And is there a command to see how much disk space I have left? Chances are you are experiencing a bug in an older cron package. There was a version which would not set up cron to run automatically at boot time. You can get it cron started with /etc/init.d/cron start as root. And you can fix the problem permanently by upgrading your cron package. -- Rob
Re: Adaptec 2940 UW
"Susan G. Kleinmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > interaction of these things (along with imperfections in the kernel) has > caused the system to hang in the past, but I didn't do enough testing > to tell you which part was at fault. FWIW, I use a 2940UW as well, and all the troubles that I have had that I thought were device or kernel problems, turned out to actually be bad cabling and/or termination. I thought I had good cables, but when I bought better ones, the problems went away. Just another thing to consider. -- Rob
Re: Adaptec 2940 UW
Bernd Kreimeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The hardware works fine with 1.3.88 up to 2.0.0. It does not work > with 2.0.25 and 2.0.27 under my current installation, and with > the Debian Base rescue disk. "0 SCSI hosts detected". I do not have > a clue, but my hunch is that Adaptec sells boards with varying > layout, and the support for some combinations has been broken > (reportedly since 2.0.12). I got one of the "currently unsupported". Hmm, interesting theory. As I recall, I had trouble with a 2940 in my current machine (but not the previous one). When I swapped for a 2940UW, the problem went away. A long shot, but have you tried any of the 2.1.XX kernels? If you decide to, I've had quite good luck with 2.1.17 (some of the earlier ones caused trouble). If you wanted to try something newer than that the module format was changed after 2.1.17, so you have to get a new modutils, etc. I'm currently running 2.1.26 with 2.1.26-patch3 from the unofficial patches list with no problems (FWIW). I'll let you know if I think of anything else for you to try... -- Rob
Re: Video Cards
"Robert D. Hilliard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am about to buy a new machine. Gateway 2000 is attractive, but > it uses a 2mb Matrox card (model not specified, and the salesman > doesn't know) standard, and offers STB ViRGE /VX 4 and 8 mb cards as > options. The latest Hardware-HOWTO I have found (v6969, 14 November > 1995) doesn't list these cards as being supported in XFree86. If it's the Matrox Millenium, the new SVGA server works fine with it. I'm using one right now... -- Rob
Re: problem
Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am going to download the newest version of Debian Linux with Windows > 95. How can I convert them to Linux format so that Linux will recognise > the boot disk, root disk, ect. I've heard that their is a utility to do > that, but I can't find it. If you know anything about this please email > me with help. Thanks Read the file install.txt in the same directory where you found the disk images. -- Rob
Problem with lprng after reboot.
Everytime after I reboot, attempts to print via lprng's lpr will fail with the following message: Apr 8 23:57:43 raven Receive_job[226]: lp: Lockf: lock '/var/spool/lpd/lp/hfA225raven' open failed - Permission denied The only way I've found to fix this is /etc/init.d/lprng stop /etc/init.d/lprng start After that, everything's fine until the next reboot. Any ideas about the problem? Thanks -- Rob
Re: Problem with lprng after reboot.
Dima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Check the permissions on /dev/null -- here something has changed them > to crw--- twice already and I haven't found the offender yet. Thanks for the suggestion. I just checked and that's not the problem. -- Rob
Re: Problem with lprng after reboot.
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > /tmp okay? Has been known to lose normal-user write permissions, > although not for quite a long time for me. Should be > drwxrwxrwxt. Thanks for the suggestion, but that's not it either. -- Rob
Re: Problem with lprng after reboot.
Tony Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just noticed this problem. The ownership of /var/spool/lpd has > changed to root.root, wheras it should be root.lp. I changed the > permission manually and it then worked. Hmm. I don't know what caused > this to happen. Wow, you win the prize. I had the same problem. I don't know if this fixes my original complaint because I'll have to reboot to check, and I can't do that right now, but at least it might. I wonder if this is another manifestation of the "dpkg tar problem". I can't recall exactly what I discovered the problem was, but I think it was something like "if a directory already exists on your file system, even its permissions are different from what's in the tarfile (deb file), installing the package will *not* update the permissions." This seems to be clearly wrong, but no one has really complained yet, though it did cause some problems with base-files when the original version was released with bad permissions on some directories. The only way I know of to handle this is to get the permissions right in the initial package release, or if mistakes are made, add commands to the package's postinst to correct the permissions. I don't know if the same problem occurs with files in the tarfile. Thanks -- Rob
Re: error in bind.postinst with froze
John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is the problem with bash 2 only the ; before the } ? Then wouldn't it be > possible to use perl to determine if a { ??? } type construct is a > variable replacement thingy or a block of code, and edit it accordingly? > > Any idea where I could get a list of the syntax changes from bash 1.4.7 > -> bash 2.0 ? /usr/doc/bash/COMPAT.gz -- Rob
Re: ppp redial problem
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You mean the modem device or something else? I am using /dev/modem which > is symlinked to /dev/ttyS1 in pppd as well minicom and pppupd both of > which redial correctly. I may be mistaken, but I think that this can cause problems in some cases, especially with respect to device locking. I think using a symlink means that in certain locking strategies which base the lockfile name on the file name, a program locking /dev/modem will use the lockfile /var/lock/dev.modem or something, while other programs which are trying to use ttyS1 will use /var/lock/dev.ttyS1. Both programs will think they have exclusive access to the device, and both will be wrong. This, at least, was my understanding of the danger of device symlinks. -- Rob
Re: ppp redial problem
Greg Vence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please don't let me start another editor snowball here. What is the > difference between /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/cua0? I think this is (or should be) a FAQ somewhere, but the short story is that the cua* devices are only kept around in the kernel for historical and backward compatibility purposes. The maintainer for these devices asks that they not be used, and that the ttyS* devices be used instead. The maintainer also claims that the code for the cua* devices is not being actively maintained. -- Rob
Re: X-Windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim O'Brien) writes: > What I'm trying to do is get to where I can use X to get some actual work > done. Right now, as much as I hate to say so, all I can get X to do is nifty > parlor tricks. What were you interested in learning? Programming X, or user configuration details? -- Rob
Auto updating the hardware clock on shutdown.
I assumed that the hardware clock was always written to reflect the current system time on shutdown. Is that true? The reason I ask is because we just had the daylight savings switch here, and at least one of my systems came up after a reboot with the wrong time (it was an hour off). If the clock is not by default written at shutdown, what's the best way to make sure that it is, an appropriate rc.d script perhaps? Thanks -- Rob
Re: Auto updating the hardware clock on shutdown.
Perry Piplani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > man 8 clock > > to learn how your hardware clock is read to and written from. You can run > it in your shutdown script. > > I run it from a cron script that synchronizes to a timeserver first, my > system clock is 45 sec fast per day. > > Also, you can can configure your system to use GMT on your hardware clock. > See /etc/init.d/boot Actually I think I found what I was looking for in the shutdown man page. It looks like I want to add the hardware clock setting to an rc.{0,6} script. Just out of curiosity, why did my clock get out of whack when daylight savings changed in the first place? If my hardware clock's set to GMT, and my timezone (US/Central) knows about the time change, shouldn't it have been fine? Thanks -- Rob
Re: X-Windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim O'Brien) writes: > Both actually. First, user config details, then more about > programming. I'm at a point where I understand a good deal about > windowing systems in general, and programming as well. I've not had > much exposure to X, and though it seems quite powerful in terms of > its capabilities, the configuration/customization appears very > involved. Involved, in fact, almost to the point of overwhelming. Well, the runtime config stuff (at least the stuff you *need* to know) is not too bad. The place I learned about most of it was of course the manpages, and also the X books. I actually shelled out for a number of them, notably 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6(a/b), but I think they're naw available in the xbooks package. I did learn a reasonable amount of Motif, which might actually come in handy now that Lesstif's coming along. For my purposes Motif actually turned out to be a bad idea, but that was because you couldn't get the source to recompile with -D_REENTRANT so it would be thread safe(ish). X is quite layered, and from a user perspective, most of what you want to know about at first is actually probably in your window manager's docs, not the standard X docs. For a window manager I highly recommend fvwm2(1x) -- it has pretty good manpages. The other big issue is the handling of the X resource database. Many X apps list their resource configuration strings in their manpages. You manage these settings via xrdb(1x). Is this at all the kind of info you wanted? Feel free to ask more questions, but we should probably continue in private email. -- Rob
Re: Auto updating the hardware clock on shutdown.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes: > Now what might have happened is that you have your CMOS clock running on GMT. > Some BIOSes try to be smart and update the CMOS clock when you boot if they > see DST has come into effect since the latest reboot.. You should be able to > turn that off. If not, you loose :) %^*&*%$%! You get the prize. I just realized that I've rebooted to windows once since the time change, and now I recall it telling me that it was fixing the clock for daylight savings. I was busy at the time, and so I didn't think anything of it (actually forgot about it), but your comment reminded me that it, of course, screwed up the hardware clock which was on GMT. Serves me right for running that beast :> Thanks -- Rob
Re: vi
Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wow, you guys sure think fast :) But I know where you are coming from. I > am a pretty speedy typist and have often been annoyed by odd keys. Now I > am wondering: is there an easy way with emacs or some other editor to > assign a short string to a 'wierd key'? I hate parenthesies for example > (I can't even speell them). It would be nice if I could just type pn and > have it immediately subbed out for the char (. cn could close it. > Anything out there that lets you set things like this? Parentheses really are your friend :> , but you can get the effect you want a number of different ways in emacs. The best is probably to investigate abbrev-mode which makes emacs auto-substitute something you type for something else as soon as you type the last character. Another trick that many emacs/lisp programmers use is to switch the parens and brackets on their keyboards so you don't have to reach or hit shift to get to them... Finally, not that you'd want to do this, but this would make f5 be open paren. (defun open-paren () (interactive nil) (insert "(")) (global-set-key [f5] 'open-paren) I'm sure there are even better ways to do this... -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: portmapper problems
I bet your problem is that one of that package that you installed killed your /etc/inetd.conf file. At least that's what happened to me last week. I never did figure out who did it. Check to see if it's there. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there a ncftp package?
"Eloy A. Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > is there a package of the FTP client ncftp? The one that comes standard > with Debian isn't as nice as ncftp. Check in non-free. It's there. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: vi
Carey Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm sure there are even better ways to do this... > > You mean something like (global-set-key [f5] "(")? Exactly :> -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Unidentified subject!
Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My solution was to configure the system to always do a _cold_ boot. > This is done by the following line in lilo.conf: > > append = "reboot=c" And I believe that the latest development kernels now do this by default. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem ftpd
Comet Mercantile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can't login into my box the ftpd denies access to everyone! I check the > files /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hosts.allow /etc/ftpd/ftpaccess and they are > all fine! what else could it be? I am using wu-ftpd.. Could this be the problem caused by a recent revision of the cvs package? It deleted all the entries in /etc/inetd.conf. See if yours is mostly empty. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem ftpd
Comet Mercantile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hope this helps! its very annoying and I haven't really done any changes > for this to have happenned! I am using BO btw maybe thats it. Hmm, it looks OK to me too. Did you check the /etc/shells problem that others mentioned... -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 2.1.35 works [was: kernel 2.1.3x?]
Petri Wessman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, life on the bleeding edge is always interesting :-) I'd be a little careful with 2.1.25. At least on my system, clock() always returned 0. Not good. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lp-device trouble
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have a serious problem with my printer: it does not print. > If I try to print anything (via "cat" as root, or with "lpr"), > the device seems to receive data, because its display says > so ("PROCESSING...WAITING..." and then "READY"). > But it still does not print. This is most likely a printer configuration problem. Specifically it's probably a line-termination character problem. If I send my printer a raw text file using cat or whatever, it'll hang because (I'm fairly certain) it's looking for the DOS carriage-return line-feed sequence to end a line. If I send it a postscript file, it's fine. There's a control sequence that I can send the printer to fix the default, but I haven't bothered since I always send it postscript, using enscript on raw text files (saves trees too)... Hope this helps -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xautolock
Jim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just installed xautolock and wish it to come up when X is started. > Seems like the command should be in .xinitrc, but this dummy is having > trouble even finding that file. any ideas? Well, if you're talking about it launching whenever you log in, yes, that should be done from your .xinitrc and/or .xsession files. (I just symlink my .xsession file to my .xinitrc file for convenience.) These files should be created in your home directory using your favorite editor, and you should make sure to do a chmod u+x .xsession .xinitrc so they'll be executable. The contents of the file(s) should look something like this: #! /bin/bash xautolock -time 5 -locker "xlock -nolock -duration 60" & rxvt& exec fvwm2 -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lp-device trouble again
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If it's a "line-termination character problem", how can solve it? Well, with HP printers, there's a control character that you can send the character to set the convention. I don't know what you'd do for other printers, or even if it's actually relevant, but I'd say you should try the reference section of the printer manual if there is one. One other thing I'd suggest. You might try getting magicfilter, and seeing if it knows anything about our printer. As I recall it has a bunch of config files which know what codes to send to different printers for different purposes. Good luck -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partition Sizes
Sorry, that was the Multiple-Disks-Layout mini-HOWTO. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partition Sizes
"Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, I wish I have a good partition map. I believe that the Multiple-Disks-Layout HOWTO covers this very issue (even if you don't have multiple disks). -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: what umask?
Edward McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > chmod uses these values to confir privelege so giving read-write to > owner but total lockout to group & world is > > % chmod 600 file.foo I also find it easier sometimes to use (recall) the symbolic options. So you could also say: % chmod u=rw,g=,o= file.foo # set user to rw # group to none # other to none or % chmod a=,u=rw file.foo # clear all, then set user to rw Also, one other really nice thing I recently discovered was the "X" option. % chmod -R ug=rwX dir.foo This one will recursively decend dir.foo setting read and write access for user and group and will set the execute bit for both iff (if and only if) the file/dir already has the execute bit set for some user. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: wireless connection; cheapest solution?
Eugene Sevinian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Due to some reasons, mostly funincial, I need to establish wireless > connection between home and lab. I have read a little about HAM radio and > it sounds nice in that sense. Is there anybody who can share his > experience about this topic? Expected speed should be of order ~9600 bps > and distance ~ 1km. I am looking for cheapest hardware solution. I'm assume that this is too expensive, but I'll mention it anyway. You could get a wavelan ethernet bridge, which I believe is in the $5000 and will give you about 2Mbit/sec. Wireless modems are much cheaper, but I'm not sure they have the range you need. Check out proxim (www.proxim.com I think). I'd be interested to hear what other solutions you hear about. Thanks -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian and SBC's or PC-104's
Has anyone here had any experience running Debian on one of the Single Board Computers (like the Ampro LittleBoards), or on PC-104(Plus) boards? Just wanted to know what might be involved, and if it was possible. The boards look like they have more or less compatible hardware, but I figured there might be potential snags. Thanks -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /sbin/clock not ticking
Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know what /dev/rtc is, but it seems that on my brother's computer > it can't be opened. It seems that this in turn allows clock to work. Most likely it can't be opened because that device was not compiled into his kernel, but it was into yours. > The strange thing is that /dev/rtc does in fact exist on my brother's > computer (and on mine). Whether or not the device exists in the kernel has nothing to do with whether or not the device file exists on disk. For example, if I compiled a kernel without sound support, the file /dev/audio might still exist, but if I tried to open it, the open would fail. As to why having rtc in the kernel would cause clock to fail, I have no clue. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian_user mailing list vs newsgroup
mike horansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Using trn to thread articles is more convenient than using elm (a > GNUS-user tells me that its threading and searching are not as > good). Gnus not as good at this as elm or trn... possible, but I'd be surprised. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: STL
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I couldn't find any include files... where are they? > > (I know nothing about stl). > > They're in /usr/include/g++ > > For container classes, you'll need to use /usr/bin/genclass > > See the Info documentation for libg++. I don't know what genclass is, but I've never needed it to handle STL code. I just #include whichever stl headers I need, and that's it. The stl headers don't have any special names, so you can't just look in include/stl/* or anything. There is a catch all stl.h, but your compilations will be a little faster if you only include the stl headers you need. Sample stl headers are: #include #include etc. I did recompile g++ to include the template repository patch so that I don't get massive code bloat, but other than that, it's just normal stl code. If you want to learn more about STL, I recommend: http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/~khan/software/stl/STL.newbie.html http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~musser/stl.html They are both good, and one contains a pointer to SGI's (or HP's, I can't recall which) online docs. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: STL
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > #include > > #include > > etc. > > Isn't this HP's STL rather than GNU's? Well, I can't recall where I learned to use the names without the .h's. Perhaps it was the HP web docs. I probably should include the .h's, but GNU makes it more or less irrelevant: >From /usr/include/g++/vector: // -*- C++ -*- forwarding header. // This file is part of the GNU ANSI C++ Library. #ifndef __VECTOR__ #define __VECTOR__ #include #endif -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: STL
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, but the copyright at the top of vector.h is HP's. Well, the version in Debian is the only g++ STL I know of. It's quite possible that GNU based it on the HP code. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Copying a system (Was Re: Directory permissions.)
Rick Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The reason I opted for mc in the first place was for the ability to tag or > untag directories to avoid copying /proc and the /mnt directories. Since > it had the option to retain UID's and GID's I thought it was a safe > option. I backfired on me which I think is a bug and will report it as > such. You could avoid proc and mnt like this: # UNTESTED # (cd / && \ find `ls | egrep -v 'proc|mnt'` | \ afio -o - (cd wherever && afio -i -)) This should move all directories from "/" to wherever, ignoring proc and mnt and preserving all permissions. You could also use find's -prune option instead of the nested ls, and you could use find's -mount option to avoid mounts like /mnt, or -fstype to avoid nfs or other filesystems. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: rsh with .rhosts problems
"Eloy A. Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can you send the .rhosts in both hosts to the list? > > As I remember it, the rshd is very picky about the way you specify > the hpost name in .rhosts. I think is has to be the same string > the gethostbyaddr() (the resolver) returns. Also, check /etc/hosts.{accept,deny} -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Daylight savings time?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harmon Sequoya Nine) writes: > I was wondering if there is a way to get my clock to automatically adjust > for daylight savings time in the spring and fall. Is there an environment > variable or something? I've tried "TZ=EST5EDT" as on some other UNIX systems, > but it doesn't seem to work in LINUX. Hmm, I used tzconfig to set my timezone to US/Central, and it worked fine when daylight savings rolled around. (Unfortunately, rebooting to Win95 will screw it up. Win95 will notice the time change and reset the *hardware* clock for you without asking -- thought it does at least tell you about it.) Moral -- don't reboot to Win95. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Playing WAV and other format
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Francisco Gonzalez) writes: > is there any program that will be able to play WAV and possbly other formats? bplay and xanim for starters. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: emacs giving fatal error on new installation
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We've just switch from Slackware to Debian 1.2 on a AST Premmia > SE/66 and we are getting a fatal error (11) segmentation fault when > we run emacs. This is our third system the put Debian on and the first > time this has happen. Any suggestions on where we've could of gone wrong > would be appreciated. What version of emacs do you have installed? There was a run of emacs revisions that had that exact problem on *some* machines here. The problem vaninshed in later revisions, and I believe the changelog mentioned something about the problem at the time. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ideas about moving Debian to another hard drive
"David B. Teague" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actualy, I'm a lot more concerned with the problem of recursive copy in > something like. > cp -ax / /mnt :( So just do (cd / && cp -ax `ls | grep -v mnt` mnt) or something similar. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: latex/databases
James LewisMoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Colin" == Colin Telmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Colin> I am beginning a review of a literature on the relations > Colin> between the governments of Canada and will be writing small > Colin> summary reports on each article/book/etc. I've been considering the same issue for keeping track of the references I read, notes about them, and having the ability to generate bibtex files from the data. I've kind of settled on postgress, partially because I was curious about SQL, and also because it appears to be capable of anything I could want to do. It's probably overkill, but that's OK. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: latex/databases
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sailer) writes: > You should take a look at MySQL also. It should do what you want, > and is extremely fast too. Quite a few of us here on the mailing > list use it already. Thanks, but I wanted to stick to free software, if possible, and my impression was that MySQL is not. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: failed installation of 1.2 on thinkpad. Tips?
Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Then I got the loading root.bin..., then loading linux.. > messages, but nothing more. It just hung -- I waited at > least 15 minutes before giving up. I had this same trouble a couple of months ago when trying to install Debian on a friends ThinkPad. Someone told me that the old (1.1?) disks would work. I haven't had the machine, so I couldn't try that out, but I'd be interested in any successes you might have. I'm probably going to get the machine and try again soon. Thanks -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: New to Debian
"W.D.McKinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There's more but I am wondering what is the biggest draw > to Debian vs. Slasckware, Red Hat, etc., ? The biggest advantage to Debian that I've heard of [1] is the way that Debian handles config files. Debian knows which files in a package are config files, and if you modify them, those changes are preserved across upgrades. When you install a new package, Debian checks to see if the new version of the config file is different from the one in the previous version of the package you had installed. If it is, then Debian checks to see if you have modified the config file, if not, Debian just upgrades it. Otherwise Debian asks you what you want to do about the modifications, and allows you do merge the files by hand if you choose. The impression I have of the RedHat process is that it will just blindly clobber your config files on upgrade. [1] Note that all I know about RedHat is hearsay. I have never used it, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: failed installation of 1.2 on thinkpad. Tips?
Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, when you rebuilt the kernel image, did you copy it to a floppy > with a cat or something, or did you make a lilo boot floppy? If you > went the cat route, I'm willing to bet that you're passing of the > floppy=thinkpad option on the rescue floppy is the problem, since a > generic kernel boot floppy doesn't accept boot options. Debian ran > great on a 365E I used to have, btw. Interesting, now that could explain it. I didn't realize that the generic kernel didn't read the options. When I get a chance I'll see about using a different kernel. Thanks -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SGML ??
Rick Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm looking for the linuxdoc-sgml package. It's not in the directory it > was reported in. There are some packages called sgml-tool and docs. Has > the one linuxdoc-sgml.deb been replaced by the sgml packages? If so what > packages would I need to have the entire thing? As I recall, sgml-tools replaces linuxdoc-sgml. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .