With newer chipsets, is ECC memory slower ? Worth the penalty ?

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I have always heard ECC memory is more reliable, but there is a performance
penalty.  Crucial.com estimates the penalty to be 10% to 15%.  That's a lot.
There are some statements to the contrary with newer chipsets.  I have the
875P chipset and have no idea what the performance difference is.  Any
recommendations or empirical performance data ?

BTW.  The system is a DELL 3.2GHz server with no OS.  I saw it on
thedailydeals.com for $500.  With no OS, maybe others are interested.  Dell
offers it every other month.

Thanks in advance,

Paul


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RE: With newer chipsets, is ECC memory slower ? Worth the penalty ?

[Paul McHale]

Hi Bob,

> Negative.  My own memory test benchmarks using a (cough) windows based
> test program shows only a 1%-2% speed degradation.  Of course that
> depends upon the chipset used.  But I wouldn't expect anything above
> 5% in the worst case for anything reasonable.



Thanks for the info.  It sounds like I would be crazy to not use ECC memory.
I tend to leave the PC running 24/7.  That alone might make the ECC worth
while.

Thanks,
Paul




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RE: With newer chipsets, is ECC memory slower ? Worth the penalty ?

[Paul McHale]

Bob,

> Having said all of that I will say that all of my servers which run
> 24/7 all have ECC memory in them and they are very reliable.  The disk
> drive is the least reliable part for me and I use RAID to offset that.
> ECC is barely more expensive than non-ECC.  I always look for ECC when

I do have one possibly dumb question.  The chipset is 875P which supports
dual channel 400MHz DDR.  So far so good.  Intel claims the fastest
configuration is 4 DIMMs of all double sided.  This amounts to PC3200.  I
found a site which offers PC3500 (CL=2.5 vs CL=3).  Here is the link:

http://www.oempcworld.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=66527%7C1218117&PRID=1314991

It also claims this is DDR 433MHz.  Hence my confusion.  To perform at
PC3500, is the change in CAS latency enough or must I overclock to 433MHz.
If overclocking is required (which the BIOS doesn't support) then the CL of
2.5 would perform at CL rate of 3.  Is the above any faster than:

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?Mfr%2BProductline=Dell%2BPowerEdg
e&mfr=Dell&cat=RAM&model=PowerEdge+400SC&submit=Go

I think the answer is yes, but I would appreciate the sanity check.

Many thanks,

Paul


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Starting debian servers/Samba Newbie - help

[Paul McHale]

I need a POP3, FTP, Print and Web server. I would use NT server, but then
I have to buy an expensive POP3 server.  To save money and have a more
reliable server, I would like to use debian.  Here are the plans: 

Goals are:
1. Simple setup
2. Secure
3. Good available documentation

What I need are:
1. Recommendations
2. Point me to any and all documentation, please !
3. Any recommended books

Plans are:

Samba: Can't see a way around this.  I hear it supports encrypted
passwords now.  I don't think it did last time I used it. 

POP3:  Can anyone recommend a good,  less than 10 user POP3 server. 
Simple, secure setup important. 

FTP:  Probably use FTPd that debian ships with debian (I Think it does?)

Print:  I think I can mount a raw print device and share it across
network.  This way it is printer independent. 

Web Server:  I plan on apache.

Computers on the network are:
1. Windows NT 4.0 workstation
2. Windows98 Laptop
3. P133-48MBRam 1GB disk debian server

Thanks for the help,

paul

RE: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?

[Paul McHale]

One reason is pretty installation.  IMHO, RedHat has more eye candy.  It
starts up with a more intuitive install and gives a general user what they
are looking for.  Apps, X/MS like interface.  Some networking stuff.  Great
book in every store, most with CDs.  Great documentation on getting Samba
running (books required :( ).

For administrators, debian appears to be the odds on favorite.  After the
failed floopy install attempt, I installed from CD (long story).
Installation went much smoother and when I was done (after running dselect)
I could not only ping but ftp and web browse apache.  I assure you this was
no fault of my own :) !  Nice server in a box installation !

My comments while they are fresh in my mind and before the failed attempt
and successful attempt mentally run together more.

Debian:
1. Install by floppy then CD didn't work

2. Said it would make my HD bootable, didn't.  I still boot from floppies so
if anyone can tell me where to look to change this...  It's not bad because
I almost never have to reboot :)

3. It appears everything installed, but didn't.  You have to run dselect to
install mandatory packages after you have installed OS ?  This wouldn't be
so bad if it told you this during install.  Maybe it did and I missed it !

4. You have to run dselect.  Ouch !  For a nice installation, this was
somewhat painful.  Not to mention it is very unclear which CD does what.  I
tried to tell it I had two CDs and I put the appropriate CD in.  It
complained about not finding packages like Contrib.  Maybe it doesn't ship
with it.  In any event, I selected and said install and it chuncked away and
away and failed to install.  I had the wrong CD in.  I tried it with the
other one and everything seemed to work.

Bottom line for me

If you want a workstation loaded with semi-useful apps, choose redhat.  If
you want to play, choose redhat.  If you are going to use this for your main
computer with no server intentions, I would choose redhat.  If you have
bizaar hardware, redhat (I believe) has more drivers.  Redhat has more
packages but this may be an arguement for alien.

If you want a network or internet server, choose debian or you'll
unfortunately wish you had.

Just my intial opinion of Debian and past(pre 6.0) opinion of redhat.  For
what it's worth, my server is using debian.

paul

> -Original Message-
> From: David Teague [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 3:53 PM
> To: Adam C Powell IV
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?
>
>
> On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
>
> > "Richard E. Hawkins" wrote:
> >
> > > Damon dabbled,
> > >
> > > > Seeing Debian is such an internet-centric (ie., apt)
> distribution, it
> > > > would be nice if you could install the whole thing with one
> the one or
> > > > two boot disks (I'm sure you can with redhat). Even if the
> boot disk had
> > > > a little FTP client (like wget or curl), so you could
> switch to a VT and
> > > > put them on that newly made EXT2 partition.
>
> How does zero floppy install stack up?
>
> I installed my latest Debian slink from a single CD with no floppy
> at all. In fact the floppy did not work at all, a fact I didn't
> discover until much later.  Once the system was up, I pulled all the
> updates off the net.
>
> --David
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>  useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
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RE: Good books

[Paul McHale]

You must run dselect.  Same thing happened to me.  Installation is a two
parter.  Part two is dselect.

paul

> -Original Message-
> From: ... [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:40 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Good books
>
>
>  I'm a total newbie with linux. I downloaded Debian, and put it on my
> second hard drive, total capacity about 435 meg. I partitioned it to
> reserve 100 meg for dos, put about 10% of the remainder aside for swap,
> and the rest is for linux.
>  This being kind of small, when I installed Debian, I just installed
> the Standard package, Dialup, and Small XWindows.
>  The "man" command doens't appear to be active, and the /usr/doc files
> don't have a lot of information. Most of it seems to be changelog and
> copyright, so I'm thinking of deleting all of it.
>   What sort of how-to books would be helpful? I'd like the equivalent
> of the old Understanding MSDOS and Supercharging MSDOS books, published
> by QUE, I think. I want to learn how to get a color screen at the root
> level, set up and optimize FSTAB, and ultimately, if I have enough with
> the system I've got, to install and use Netscape for UNIX and STAR Office.
>
> Thanx,
> Frank Starr
> http://i.am/franksnewage
>
>
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RE: boot from hd (was RE: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?)

[Paul McHale]

Thanks for the help !  I'll give this a try.  When I boot I get 1F0 in the
upper left part of the screen.  I think this is also the address of the
CDROM drive.  Probably coincidence.

paul

> -Original Message-
> From: Patrick Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 6:02 PM
> To: Paul McHale
> Cc: debian-user
> Subject: boot from hd (was RE: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?)
>
>
>
> > 2. Said it would make my HD bootable, didn't.  I still boot
> from floppies so
> > if anyone can tell me where to look to change this...  It's not
> bad because
> > I almost never have to reboot :)
>
> What does it do when you try to boot from the HD?
>
> You might take a look at the LILO mini-HOWTO at
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/LILO.html
>
> I've heard that some systems do not like lilo, so this may not work out.
> lilo has worked on every system I've tried it on though.
>
> If you have questions, feel free to ask.  I'm sure either myself or
> someone else on this list will be happy to help.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Patrick
>
>

RE: boot from hd (was RE: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?)

[Paul McHale]

I was mistaken, it is 1FA.  I am not sure how to enter 1.  The exact prompt
is

1FA:

When I press a key I get nothing.  When I press enter, I get another prompt:

1FA:1FA:

Is there a special way to enter it ?

> -Original Message-
> From: Ashley Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 6:18 PM
> To: Paul McHale; Patrick Olson
> Cc: debian-user
> Subject: RE: boot from hd (was RE: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?)
>
>
> On Fri, 03 Sep 1999, Paul McHale wrote:
> > Thanks for the help !  I'll give this a try.  When I boot I get
> 1F0 in the
> > upper left part of the screen.  I think this is also the address of the
> > CDROM drive.  Probably coincidence.
>
> Actually the 1F0 is a prompt provided by the mbr package that
> replaces the master boot record of your harddrive. If I remember
> correctly 1 boots the first partition, F boots floppy A, and 0 allows
> selection of booting from any partition 1-4 regardless of their
> active setting.
>
> --
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>

RE: boot from hd (was RE: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?)

[Paul McHale]

You were right.  I get another menu:
1234F:

When I looked around the corner at the PC front, I saw the floppy light come
on when I pressed F during either the 1FA: or 1234F: prompt.  I put a floppy
in and pressed F and it is now booting.

I am assuming this means there is no boot record on the HD since 1,2,3 and 4
don't work ...

I guess I'll try LILO tonight.

thanks
paul

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wim
> Kerkhoff
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 12:26 PM
> To: Paul McHale
> Cc: debian-user
> Subject: RE: boot from hd (was RE: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?)
>
>
> Try pressing 'a', for 'A'dvanced.  That should give you some more
> options, if
> my memory serves correct.  You probably have more partitions that
> 1, but they
> aren't showing up.
>
>
> On 03-Sep-99 Paul McHale wrote:
> > I was mistaken, it is 1FA.  I am not sure how to enter 1.  The
> exact prompt
> > is
> >
> > 1FA:
> >
> > When I press a key I get nothing.  When I press enter, I get
> another prompt:
> >
> > 1FA:1FA:
> >
> > Is there a special way to enter it ?
> >
> >> On Fri, 03 Sep 1999, Paul McHale wrote:
> >> > Thanks for the help !  I'll give this a try.  When I boot I get
> >> 1F0 in the
> >> > upper left part of the screen.  I think this is also the
> address of the
> >> > CDROM drive.  Probably coincidence.
> >>
> >> Actually the 1F0 is a prompt provided by the mbr package that
> >> replaces the master boot record of your harddrive. If I remember
> >> correctly 1 boots the first partition, F boots floppy A, and 0 allows
> >> selection of booting from any partition 1-4 regardless of their
> >> active setting.
>
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>
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RE: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?

[Paul McHale]

I am sorry that I cannot list specifics.  I thought I had read in the
journals that RedHat offered the most drivers when comparing Linux
distributions.  I may have had this confused with packages, I.e. RPM.  I am
pretty sure it was drivers though.  Sorry I can't offer more specifics.  Can
anyone else ?  If I am wrong, please tell me !

> -Original Message-
> From: David Teague [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 8:40 AM
> To: Paul McHale
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: RE: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?
>
>
>
> On Fri, 3  Sep 1999, Paul McHale wrote:
>
> > If you have bizaar hardware, redhat (I believe) has more drivers.
> > Redhat has more packages but this may be an arguement for alien.
>
> Paul
>
> I have acquaintances who never did get X up under Red Hat using the
> SiS6326 card.  That card is apparently S3 based, but SiS does
> something really bizarre with it.
>
> However, one of my students got X up (late last
> winter) with Debian after a bit of fiddling. He replaced the 3.3.2 X
> server with the 3.3.3.1 server, then modified the XF86config file to
> make the thing work well.
>
> I understand that RH 6 has 3.3.3 X. I don't know about specific
> SiS6326 support.
>
> I would like to have a comparison of device support available from
> Red Hat with that from Debian. Can you address this?  Or perhaps
> someone on this list can answer this.
>
> --David
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FTP servers and security help

[Paul McHale]

I have debian installed and am very impressed.  Apache is running.  WU_FTP
is running.  Mostly through no fault of my own :).  The installation did an
excellent job !

My question regards previous mailings to this group discussing PRO_FTP and
security issues.  Which FTP server do you recommend ?  I am new to FTP
servers outside of windows.  My concerns are security and
administration/directory-user-control.

many thanks in advance,

paul

RE: FTP servers and security help

[Paul McHale]

Thanks much for the advice.  I am firewalling off FTP for now!  I will wait
for pro_ftp to get fixed.  This coincides with what I have seen so far.

Thanks for the input !

paul

> -Original Message-
> From: Seth R Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 8:20 PM
> To: Debian-User
> Subject: Re: FTP servers and security help
>
>
> Paul, stay away from wu_ftpd. It might be a wonderful piece of
> software, it
> might do many things -- but it seems half the unix traffic on
> bugtraq is due
> to buffer overflows in wu_ftpd. A security hole was found in proftpd
> recently, but the patch (on bugtraq) is a one-line fix -- so I imagine the
> debian maintainer will have a patch out soon, if not already --
> if you don't
> want to deal with compiling your own server.
>
> proftpd just seems nicer. :)
>
> On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 02:49:14PM -0400, Paul McHale wrote:
> > I have debian installed and am very impressed.  Apache is
> running.  WU_FTP
> > is running.  Mostly through no fault of my own :).  The
> installation did an
> > excellent job !
> >
> > My question regards previous mailings to this group discussing
> PRO_FTP and
> > security issues.  Which FTP server do you recommend ?  I am new to FTP
> > servers outside of windows.  My concerns are security and
> > administration/directory-user-control.
> >
> > many thanks in advance,
> >
> > paul
> >
> >
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RE: FTP servers and security help

[Paul McHale]

That was fast, thanks for the response !!!

> -Original Message-
> From: Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 9:49 PM
> To: Seth R Arnold
> Cc: Debian-User
> Subject: Re: FTP servers and security help
> 
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> > Paul, stay away from wu_ftpd. It might be a wonderful piece of 
> software, it
> > might do many things -- but it seems half the unix traffic on 
> bugtraq is due
> > to buffer overflows in wu_ftpd. A security hole was found in proftpd
> > recently, but the patch (on bugtraq) is a one-line fix -- so I 
> imagine the
> > debian maintainer will have a patch out soon, if not already -- 
> if you don't
> > want to deal with compiling your own server.
> 
> - From the changelog 
>   proftpd (1.2.0pre4-1) unstable; urgency=high
>   
> * New upstream version, fixing remote root exploit.
> 
> i _think_ this means the patch has already been applied and uploaded.
> 
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Dumb package install question

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I have downloaded the latest proftp with the root patch (I believe) from
debian.  I have it on floppy and can copy the file proftpd_1.2.0pre4-2.deb
to wherever.

Question is how do I install it ?  When I run dselect, it looks for
directories which don't exist on the floppy.  I looked at dpkg and am a
little more confused :O.  Any ideas on installing/configuring individually
downloaded packages ?

Could someone also explain the numbering?  This one is pre4-2.  When I check
www.proftp.org/download.html, it shows pre3 as the latest.  I would assume
pre3 is before pre4.  Are these the equivalent of Major, Minor release
numbers.  I.e. 4-2 is version 4.2?  Did debian patch it and release it under
unstable ?  This would explain why profrp.org doesn't list it yet.

BTW.  I tried apt-get.  This was beautiful to watch it hunt down packages on
it's own.  I would assume it didn't update proftp because it is unstable due
to the recent patch.  It left the currently installed version on the HD.

thanks,

paul

RE: Dumb package install question

[Paul McHale]

I ran:
# apt-get -f install

Which straightened out my previous PERL error/conflict by removing 5.005.

I then ran:
# apt-get install proftpd

It supposedly installed and started it.  When I run:

server:~# ps aux | grep pro
root   937  0.0  1.8  1800   844  ?  S00:42   0:00 proftpd

So it is running.  FTP login screen reports:

ProFTPD 1.2.0pre1 Server (ProFTPD)

When I run:

server:~# dpkg -i proftpd_1.2.0pre4-2.deb
(Reading database ... 11147 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace proftpd 1.2.0pre1-2 (using proftpd_1.2.0pre4-2.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement proftpd ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of proftpd:
 proftpd depends on perl5; however:
  Package perl5 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing proftpd (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 proftpd

It reports no PERL5.  I guess I am surprised it needs it now.  Maybe the
dependancies have changed !  Would that make sense ...

paul

> -Original Message-
> From: Seth R Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 12:27 AM
> To: Debian-User
> Subject: Re: Dumb package install question
>
>
> Hello paul
>
> On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 11:35:13PM -0400, Paul McHale wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have downloaded the latest proftp with the root patch (I believe) from
> > debian.  I have it on floppy and can copy the file
> proftpd_1.2.0pre4-2.deb
> > to wherever.
> >
> > Question is how do I install it ?  When I run dselect, it looks for
> > directories which don't exist on the floppy.  I looked at dpkg and am a
> > little more confused :O.  Any ideas on installing/configuring
> individually
> > downloaded packages ?
>
> Well, my apt-get just did the whole silly thing for me, so I can't promise
> this will work. However, it is worth suggesting. :)
>
> try this:
>
> # dpkg --install ./proftpd_1.2.0pre4-2.deb
>
> > Could someone also explain the numbering?  This one is pre4-2.
> When I check
> > www.proftp.org/download.html, it shows pre3 as the latest.  I
> would assume
> > pre3 is before pre4.  Are these the equivalent of Major, Minor release
> > numbers.  I.e. 4-2 is version 4.2?  Did debian patch it and
> release it under
> > unstable ?  This would explain why profrp.org doesn't list it yet.
>
> It would not suprise me -- the patch was VERY simple. :) But, no
> authoritative answers from me on this. :)
>
> > BTW.  I tried apt-get.  This was beautiful to watch it hunt
> down packages on
> > it's own.  I would assume it didn't update proftp because it is
> unstable due
> > to the recent patch.  It left the currently installed version on the HD.
>
> I too am deeply impressed with apt. apt-get update, apt-get install
> , thirty seconds after starting, the package is INSTALLED! No
> graphical deal to mess with, no cryptic command lines, nothing goofy. It
> just works.
>
> (But, a note -- dselect is sort of nice for scanning through the list of
> what I *can* install -- apt is nicer for the "I need this
> package", dselect
> for "what else can I play with..." :)
>
> So, a big thanks to all those who went before me, making debian
> worth using.
>
> :)
>
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RE: Why can't I run my program (how do i set ./ on the path permanently)

[Paul McHale]

For security reasons, please don't do this on your root account.  Users can
add another ls or commonly used program to their own directory.  This
program doesn't have the ability to perform some insidious task when run by
a user.  When root changes into their directory and innocently types ls,
their local special ls runs with root privledges.  Be careful !

> -Original Message-
> From: Chanop Silpa-Anan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Chanop Silpa-Anan
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 2:26 PM
> To: Wendell Buckner
> Cc: Debian Users Group
> Subject: Re: Why can't I run my program (how do i set ./ on the path
> permanently)
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 11:43:42AM -0700, Wendell Buckner wrote:
> > I indeed needed to type "./hello"!  I knew it was simple!  Now, another
> > stupid question for you... How do I add "./" to my path on
> startup? Also,
> > what is the EASIEST way to find the answers to my question
> before bothering
> > you guys?  I'd like to save my hard questions for you guys(the
> list) instead
> > of bothering you with simple ones that I should be able to
> handle myself.
> > My options are the (1) man pages, (2) existing unix books I
> have and (3) the
> > net. I don't want to buy any more books yet, so I'm hoping the
> ones I have
> > will suffice for now. Please give me some hints on searching
> for the answers
> > to this information myself.  Thank you!
> >
> Assume you are using bash, put the following line in ~/.bash_profile
>
> export PATH=${PATH}:.
>
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RE: qpopper

[Paul McHale]

use dselect.  I think it comes with the distribution.

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> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> Where can i find the debian compiled package qpopper??
> 
> 
> thanx
> 
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PERL 5.005 install (was: RE: Dumb package install question)

[Paul McHale]

I found my proftpd install problem.  When I try to install the latest
proftpd from the unstable section of debian, it requires PERL5.005.  So I
downloaded PERL5.005 and tried to install it.  It can't install because the
base install has a previous version of PERL.

I tried to uninstall the previous version and dpkg reported it was an
important program and won't uninstall.  How do I get around this ?
PERL5.005 is from the unstable section.  Is there possibly something wrong
with the package?

If I use apt-get, it gets the older unpatched version of proftp and installs
it successfully.  Can I tell apt-get to get unstable versions ?  How do I
tell it to overwrite an older version of a package ?  Should I???

thanks much for all the support,

paul


> -Original Message-
> From: Paul McHale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 11:35 PM
> To: Debian-User
> Subject: Dumb package install question
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have downloaded the latest proftp with the root patch (I believe) from
> debian.  I have it on floppy and can copy the file proftpd_1.2.0pre4-2.deb
> to wherever.
>
> Question is how do I install it ?  When I run dselect, it looks for
> directories which don't exist on the floppy.  I looked at dpkg and am a
> little more confused :O.  Any ideas on installing/configuring individually
> downloaded packages ?
>
> Could someone also explain the numbering?  This one is pre4-2.
> When I check
> www.proftp.org/download.html, it shows pre3 as the latest.  I would assume
> pre3 is before pre4.  Are these the equivalent of Major, Minor release
> numbers.  I.e. 4-2 is version 4.2?  Did debian patch it and
> release it under
> unstable ?  This would explain why profrp.org doesn't list it yet.
>
> BTW.  I tried apt-get.  This was beautiful to watch it hunt down
> packages on
> it's own.  I would assume it didn't update proftp because it is
> unstable due
> to the recent patch.  It left the currently installed version on the HD.
>
> thanks,
>
> paul
>
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RE: Server

[Paul McHale]

Dan,

Not sure what remote means.  Telnet works pretty good.  All windows
platforms ship with a passable telnet client.  Debian starts telnet on it's
own.  One windows, start -> run and type "telnet IP_Number".

Do note your password is cleartext.  I recommend upgrading to Teraterm and
SSH for debian if telnet is run across internet.

Serial support via terminal program is built in ...

paul

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> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Server
>
>
> How do I set up my computer as a server-not for http
> or ftp or irc or anything, just like you were at the
> terminal typing at the login prompt, only from a
> remote location?
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Console screen blanking time ?

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

Does anyone know how to change/disable the console screen blanking time when
in text mode ?


thanks,

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RE: Minor inittab/serial console question...

[Paul McHale]

Can you boot Linux without a video card installed ?  I would have thought
the BIOS would have had a problem with that ...

paul

-Original Message-
From: Rob Browning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 1:02 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Minor inittab/serial console question...


Seth R Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Rob, why not do everything via telnet or ssh? two network cards can be had
> for under $50 if the machines don't already have network cards..

The serial console is to handle cases where the machine can't even
boot to the telnet or ssh stage.  This machine is critical, so even if
it goes down when I'm away, I want to be able to dial up another
machine on it's local net and reach it's console via the serial port.
Then I can fix whatever's wrong (even lilo problems) and reboot it
(via X10 power cycling).

It's also just nice to be able to watch the machine's boot messages
now and then without having to put a video card in there to make sure
everything's OK.

> (sorry for the lack of real response, I don't know how to do what you
> want... so I will try to find out why you want it. :)

Well, now that I think about it, I'm not sure I want what I thought I
wanted.  I wasn't thinking too clearly last night (too much time spent
setting up a mess of stuff).  What I'd really like is some little
daemon on the machine connected to the headless machine that watches
and logs the serial port output, and that you could connect to
whenever you wanted (access would be exclusive) to communicate with
the other machines console and to page back through the log.  That
daemon would "own" the port.  Sort of a virtual virtual terminal...

For now I get 90% of what I want just using minicom, so I'll probably
just stick with that...

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RE: Kicstart in Debian-Linux

[Paul McHale]

If the PCs are identical, you might try drive image.  It will just copy the
hard drives ...

-Original Message-
From: Jan Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 2:47 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Kicstart in Debian-Linux


I've been looking around for different ways of installing a big number of
PC's with Debian.
I want a way to do more or less automatic.
I like the way Redhat has solved it but I want to install Debian instead of
Redhat.

Does anybody have a solution?
I want to install from a fileserver and hopefully only need to use a
boot-discette when I start each PC.

I'm not on the list so add me to the receiverlist if you answer this email.

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RE: /dev/lp1 bad configured

[Paul McHale]

Lorenz,

This may be an erroneous answer, but on my system it is lp0.  As I
understand it, /dev/lp0 translates to LPT1:.  Unless you have two parallel
ports, you might not have a valid /dev/lp1 (LPT2:).  Could this be the
problem ?  I think mine gave the same error when I tried to print to it ...

paul

-Original Message-
From: Krosigk, Lorenz Von [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:08 AM
To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject: /dev/lp1 bad configured


Hello,
when i try printing (debian 2.1 with kernel 2.2.4 and magicfilter lp,
PC-StyleHardware in kernel) lpq gives back:
/dev/lp1 doesn`t support this action (or something similar) tunelp /dev/lp1
-i 7 gives the same.
Does anybody know how to get lp1 that supports printing?

Thanks

Lorenz



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RE: To the Debian Project, IMHO [long]

[Paul McHale]

You Wrote:
If you present someone with a challenge they will usually rise to it (as
long
as it is within their sphere of competence). So let's make life easier, not
more difficult.

Reply:
This is an interesting way to lead into the following ...

You wrote:
Let's tell the truth "Linux is like
Unix. You need to know. We can help you, but your a big boy/girl now, and
you have learn how to take care of yourself". Microsoft didn't and takes a
bashing from the general users who complain that it doesn't live up to
expectation, and it doesn't, you still have to know, despite what Microsoft
or others may say.

Reply:
I agree Microsoft still requires knowledge.  But the knowledge is somewhat
transferable between programs.

I also agree we need configuration GUIs in Linux.  If you still enjoy the
endless research to execute a simple command, by all means don't use the
GUI.  There are many times when I need a administrative task done more than
I need to be doing it!  I say endless for one reason.  If it is so
non-intuitive you need to go through 5 pages of help, you'll probably forget
it in short order.  Next time you'll be looking it up again.

Don't get me wrong, people still need to learn some Unix.  Point is, if you
want the marketplace, you better go after the market people.  The market
people want windows offers.  This is not by mistake.  Microsoft has invested
major $$$ in searching for what users want.  Namely:

1. Simple peer to peer networking with resource sharing.

This means you don't get in line for a cap and gown when you finally get it
working.

2. Simple install.

Most Linux variants are here.  I think RedHat is the easiest to install.
Debian is the easiest to maintain due to apt-get.  My opinion.

3. Must integrate seamlessly into existing "standard".

Like it or not, the desktop standard in the majority market holder. At this
point, that is clearly Microsoft.  Linux needs to be a drop in replacement.

4. Simple maintenance.

Linux is not rocket science.  It just takes more ongoing administrative
effort than windows NT Server.  The major difference I see is the GUI.  I
don't run X, maybe that would change my opinion.  I have run it before, but
not on debian.  Any comments here welcome.  I might be missing a big part of
debians administrative aids.

Time and time again the best argument for Linux is stability.  I have run NT
workstation for over a year now.  That's 24x7.  I just don't turn it off.
It has been rock solid.  Under development conditions, I reboot maybe once
per month.  90% of those reboots are because I have changed/installed
something.

I am not knocking Linux.  I am just interested in the comments regarding
level of development.  Fact is, replacing Microsoft on the desktop requires
one of two things.  First you have to offer something they don't/can't/won't
provide and you absolutely must have.  Second, Linux offers enough that the
difference between the two is negligible.

It seems you don't like the progression of Linux from a standpoint it's
going to put it into everyone's hands.  Within the lazy man's reach if you
will.  If I were in marketing, I would yell YOU BET.

To continue to grow, it must start capturing people who are less interested
in how it works and more interested in what is can do for them.  I.e.. a
marketing person.  Remember, they have computers to.  Maybe the question is,
should Linux be pushed beyond the server market into the desktop.  That is
the major hurdle.  A system administrator may be able to justify the extra
time.  I know a died in the wool Unix administrator who chose NT 4.0 server
because he had other tasks (programming) and needed low administration.

Just my rambling opinions.  Thanks for reading.

paul

-Original Message-
From: Simon Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 7:15 AM
To: Stephan Hachinger
Cc: Debian User
Subject: Re: To the Debian Project, IMHO


Hi Stephan,

No offence taken, with your mails, and don't get me wrong I quite like GUI
interfaces for some jobs, command line for others. I just
pick the tool I prefer for the job at hand. As far as I am concerned this
thread is not about the GUI/OOUI/command line debate, but
about the marketing focus, which can do a LOT of harm.

If I go to a hardware store and by a drill to put up some shelves at home I
have to know how to use a drill, what kind of wall I am
going to be drilling, the type of rawl plugs I will use, etc. It is actually
quite a complicated business, and the thing is most of
us accept this as normal. Why make using a computer different. To be alble
to write with pen and paper I had to learn about ink,
hand position, types of paper (don't use a biro on bond because it smears
easily, etc.), all things that have nothing to do with the
actual activity of writing a letter, just the mechanics of writing a letter.
Today I rarely use pen and ink, I use computer and
printer, but does that mean that I don't have to learn the mechanics of my
writing mat

RE: proftp where to I find it

[Paul McHale]

Seth,


Here is what I found at Linux weekly news:

http://www.lwn.net/1999/0218/a/deb-ftpd.html

paul

-Original Message-
From: Seth R Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:46 PM
To: debian user list
Subject: Re: proftp where to I find it


Look for proftpd.

:)

On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:12:50AM -0500, Jim Ruby wrote:
> Hi, where do I find proftp if it is better and easier then ftpd.
> I see ftpd is a deb package, but I can't find proftp.
>
> Thanks.
>
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RE: Language of www.debian.org.....

[Paul McHale]

Just tried it myself, wrong language !  IE 5.0 wants to load a european
language font ?

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Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 9:52 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Language of www.debian.org.


> "M" == Martin Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

M> er - who's been hacking into the Debian www site?  The main
M> page appears to be in elvish or something...

Looks fine to me.  Just checked it via Netscape and Lynx.

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RE: Language of www.debian.org.....

[Paul McHale]

Thanks for the info.  Yngilizce from English ...  Glad you knew that !

-Original Message-
From: E.L. Meijer (Eric) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 9:31 AM
To: debian
Subject: Re: Language of www.debian.org.


On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 06:11:15AM -0700, Martin Waller wrote:
> er - who's been hacking into the Debian www site?
>
> The main page appears to be in elvish or something...
>
> ???

The main page of www.debian.org looks OK to me.  The Dutch mirror
www.nl.debian.nl however, seems to be in Turkish by default.  If you go
to the bottom and click on `Yngilizce', you will get an english version.
Now I don't know how the default changed...

HTH,
Eric

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FTP server recommendation ???

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

Does anyone have a strong recommendation for an FTP server?  What I want to
do is fairly meager.  I want to support several (<10) accounts.  The
directory structure would look something like this:

User anonymous:
/ftp/anonymous  (this is root for FTP)
/ftp/anonymous/upload   (write only)
/ftp/anonymous/pub  (read only)

User Whoever1:
/ftp/Whoever1   (this is root for FTP)
/ftp/Whoever1/upload(write only)
/ftp/Whoever1/pub   (read only)

 ... etc ...

ProFTP appears to be quite problematic at this time.  Any
recommendations/experiences are appreciated.

paul


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RE: recommended partitioning

[Paul McHale]

Hi Jeff,

I would try a simple approach.  You only "need" two partitions, root and
swap.  If I remember correctly, swap should be equal to installed memory.
32MB RAM means 32MB swap.  Use the rest for the root partition.  I assigned
root first, then swap as the last partition.  You could partition using a
more complicated scheme, I.e. partitions for /var or /usr or /home.  I just
don't see the need.  Make life easy.  With 408MB to work with, you might end
up wishing you had more room on another partition if you allocate too much
to one partition.  Allocating it all to root lets the directories that need
it, use it.

PS.  If you have any computer shows around you, you can often pick up 1-2GB
drives for $30-$50 bucks.  This probably won't matter unless you want to
install everything.

paul

-Original Message-
From: jh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 11:47 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: recommended partitioning


Hi. If there is anyone out there, I am trying to install debian and
wondered what would be a good partition scheme for a 408MB drive. It will
be running solo debian.

Thanks so much

Jeff


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RE: simple mail question

[Paul McHale]

You can ...  If you are debugging this, I would just use straight IP
numbers.  Otherwise you have to resolve the name.  Just make sure you can
ping your pop.server.com and smtp.server.com before trying to access them
via mail client.  This proves propper name resolution.  Don't forget to load
cucipop or qpopper or some other POP3 server.  This is actually the POP3
interface over exim ...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 6:22 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: simple mail question


simple mail question

Hey guys,

In most email clients, you can specify a pop and a smtp server to connect
to, like

pop.server.com
smtp.server.com

can I, armed with exim, specify myself as the sender, and use somthing like

smtp.me.whatever

??

thanks!



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RE: Making a bootable rescue CD

[Paul McHale]

This is just another crazy thought on the subject.  My backup strategy is a
little different.  I run both NT server and Linux.  Both are Internet
servers where data changes very rarely.  I am using PowerQuest drive image
to make images of both hard drives in both servers.  Neither server takes up
more than 600MB and will take up less when it's image is compressed.

The plan is this, make these two images and then burn two CDs for the
images.  When a failure comes, insert a DOS boot floppy with CD-ROM drivers.
Then start PowerQuest on second floppy.  Restore HD from CD.

Experiences:

I have used DriveImage to backup and restore both servers.
For NT I:
1. Made an image from Drive1 to DriveX.
2. Replaced Drive1 with Drive2.
3. Restore image from DriveX to Drive2.
4. Booted machine

NT server rebooted to the second restored HD without a hitch.  It resised
the image on the fly for the different geometry as well.

For Linux I:
1. Sector by sector copied from Drive1 to Drive2
2. Swapped Drive1 and Drive2
3. Boot machine

The second disk would not boot with the boot floppy.  The original disk
booted fine without the boot floppy.

Just my experiences.  Anyone have any other different backup methods?  Or
comments on my way that would improve it...

paul

-Original Message-
From: Joe Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:18 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Making a bootable rescue CD


Marc Haber mentioned this yesterday and I mistakenly sent him a private
reply instead of replying to the list.

I'm also interested in creating a debian rescue floppy that either mounts
/usr from a CD or preferably from a server via nfs.

My goal is to be able to stick a floppy in an ailing W95/98/NT machine
and mount its HD and copy the useful data to a network server before
reformatting and reinstalling.  I've had some problems lately with client
machines that spontaneously (the users didn't make any changes, they
_promise_)
stopped seeing their network card and required a reinstall of Windows from
scratch to fix the problem.

So, my question, I guess, is what exactly do I need to do to make the
inital rescue floppy? I presume I can just burn a copy of /usr to a CD, or
export it via nfs, but I'm concerned about how I'm going to get all the
necessary modules onto a floppy or two - naturally I have to cope with many
different cards, and while I'm willing to have several different boot
floppies, it'd be a lot more elegant to have just one.

thanks,

jpb
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RE: HELP: possible to have answering machine over ISDN?

[Paul McHale]

I assume your current method uses the analog phone line...  If it does, ISDN
has two B channels which can be used for voice or data.  Each is 64Kb.  I
use one for dedicated access.  The other stays data until a voice call comes
in and then converts to voice.  On the back of the ISDN device there are
usually two analog phone ports.  These are used when one of the B channels
is carrying voice.  I would connect this analog port to you vgetty port.

Said another way, your single ISDN line is like having two phone lines with
two phone numbers.  To use these analog phone lines, you just connect an
anlog device to the ports in the back of the ISDN device.  I have used a
modem connected to an analog port of the ISDN "terminal adapter" or ISDN
modem with success.  If you place a call via the analog port, it goes out
analog.  If you place a call via the serial (data) port it goes out digital.

You probably knew all this, but most probably don't.  If I didn't answer it,
let me know.  I have used ISDN for 5 years and am very happy.


paul

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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 4:23 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: HELP: possible to have answering machine over ISDN?


Hello,

i am evaluating to pass over from standard phone to ISDN-line but a
thought that hjit me... i want to use the computer as an answering machine
(using vgetty) is t possible to make this also over a ISDN line? (How?)

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RE: HELP: possible to have answering machine over ISDN?

[Paul McHale]

You wrote:
yep... but i wanted to get rid of the modems isn't it possible to use
the
ISDN card?

Reply:
Not sure you want to.

You Wrote:
Or is it possible to deflect the incoming call from the ISDNcard to the
modem
when voice is detected?

Reply:
Yes it is, provided you have an analog port on you ISDN card.  If it is a
plugin card you are after, make sure it is supported by Linux.  Most of
these only support one analog line.  Here is another way of looking at it.
You have one copper pair for ISDN.  That copper pair (through magic) is
divided up into three "channels".  2B channels and one D channel.  The two B
channels are 64Kb for voice or data and the D is 16Kb (I think) for
configuration.  You can't use the D channel, the equipment uses it.

You ISDN modem will have at least three connectors.
1. ISDN phone line connector (connects you to phone company)
2. 1 or 2 standard analog phone line connector (also called POTS)
3. One data connector (ISA, if internal card;Serial port if external,
ethernet if router)

Very few ISDN products ever included an analog modem.  The ISDN modem can
only place a digital data call when asked to call out.  You need another
ISDN modem at the other end to answer it.

When you place voice call via the analog POTS port(s), the ISDN modem
digitizes you voice and transmits it digitally to the phone company.  The
phone company converts it to analog and sends it out as if it were any other
voice phone call.  The reverse happens when you receive a call.

If you hook a modem or a fax up to either of the analog ports, it will work
as if it is connected to any other phone line and the fax will never know
the difference.

One caveat.  You only have two channels or lines.  When you place a
"digital" call to you ISP to connect to the internet, the equipment will
first call out on the "primary data" channel.  While this call is in
progress, people will receive a busy signal when they try to call the
primary data number.  The other number will work fine and you will have 64Kb
connection to the internet.

So far, no problem.  To increase bandwidth you can "bond" the two B channels
to form one connection to the internet.  The speed increases to 128Kb, but
you may not be able to use either phone line during the digital call to your
ISP if you bond the channels.

With my phone company, I have ISDN set up for circuit switched voice/data.
This works exceptionally well.  An incoming voice call will cause the
secondary channel to convert to voice and the phone rings.  The bandwidth is
reduced for the duration of the call.

You might consider a serial card and external ISDN TA like the bitsurfer
pro.  My personal favorite is a router.  You just connect to it via
Ethernet.  In Linux, give the IP of you router as the gateway address and
your all set.  Most routers automatically dial when you load your browser
and start sending traffic.  I use the ascend pipeline 75.  Not bad, I guess.
It works.  You can get one on EBay for $200-$250 with internal firewall.
Once you set the router up, forget about it.

I would call you phone company about configuration options and recommended
equipment.  Also contact you ISP for recommendations.  I personally was not
pleased with Webramp or netgear's router.  Both were *very* poor.  I would
go with ascend or cisco.  I've heard cicso doesn't have menus.  Ascend
offers serial port menus or telnet menus.  Personal preference.

Anything else I can help with ?

paul


-Original Message-
From: Bruno Boettcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 4:59 PM
To: Paul McHale
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: HELP: possible to have answering machine over ISDN?


> I assume your current method uses the analog phone line...  If it does,
ISDN
exact!

> has two B channels which can be used for voice or data.  Each is 64Kb.  I
> use one for dedicated access.  The other stays data until a voice call
comes
> in and then converts to voice.  On the back of the ISDN device there are
> usually two analog phone ports.  These are used when one of the B channels
> is carrying voice.  I would connect this analog port to you vgetty port.
yep... but i wanted to get rid of the modems isn't it possible to use
the
ISDN card?

Or is it possible to deflect the incoming call from the ISDNcard to the
modem
when voice is detected? i would prefer not to have one number for answering
machine and an other for incoming data... (only 3 numbers...)
BTW how is fax handled over ISDN?

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RE: problem with /dev/lp0

[Paul McHale]

I believe it is /dev/lp1=lpt1:.  Are you sure you are using the correct
device ?

-Original Message-
From: Debian Mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:11 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: problem with /dev/lp0


I use Debian with kernel 2.0.36. All information I can get from the
BIOS of my Intel PC about the parallel port ist, that io is 0x278 and
that the mode is normal (other possible modes: ECP, EPP 1.9 and EPP
1.7). So I say modprobe lp io=0x278. The printer is a HP LaserJet 4P
connected trough a bidirectional parallel cable. Since printing trough
magicfilter does not work, I tried to generate a file using gslj and
send that directly to /dev/lp0:
cat file.lj > /dev/lp0
This takes about 4 seconds and produces no error. But nothing is
printed and there is no error message on the printer.
tunelp /dev/lp0 -s gives the following:
/dev/lp0 status is 240, out of paper, on-line, error
but the printer is not out of paper and displays no error. Also
printing works if the printer is connected to a Windows NT machine.
tunelp /dev/lp0 tells me that lp0 is using polling. lp1 and lp2 are
not configured. cat /proc/interrupts gives:

 0:8290233   timer
 1:  35309   keyboard
 2:  0   cascade
 3:188 + serial
 4:  73807 + serial
 8:  2 + rtc
 9: 116284   NE2000
13:  1   math error
14:4628478 + ide0

Why does printing not work?

Any comments welcome!

Stef


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Linux/GDI printers/Samba

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I would like to use my Linux server as a print server.  I have a Xerox Xe80
combined copier /printer.  The problem is it follows the GDI initiative.
This is where they design a printer that is so dumb you can't pipe text to
it and have it print.  They moved a good bit of intelligence from the
printer to the PC driver.  For this reason, the external print servers (I.e.
Intel netport, Netgear print server) will not work with this printer.

My question is regarding Samba sharing.  I don't have an urgent need to
print from the Linux server.  I was going to set up a raw print device to be
shared across the network.

Has anyone had any success setting up GDI printers through Linux?  I get the
impression the intelligence in the Xerox print driver must be directly
connected to the parallel port !  I called Xerox and they don't directly
support Linux.  Does anyone directly support Xerox ?

BTW>  Warning to all, these GDI printers are becomming more and more popular
as software (driver) is cheap when compared to manufacturing smarter
hardware.  Networking can only be done via a PC/Windows with a printer
share.  (unless we hear differently ...)

thanks in advance,

paul


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[Paul McHale]

Bart,

I had the same issue with minicom.  It didn't exactly lockup for me, it
would refuse to access the port.  Or the port (device) would be
unresponsive.  I switched to ckermit and had no problems.  Might want to try
that ...

paul

-Original Message-
From: Bart Raatgerink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 6:39 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: minicom lockup


Hello,

I have a problem with minicom:

I fire up minicom and do stuff (dialing). Then i quit.
Now when i fire minicom up again it locks up

Any ideas ??

Bart.

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Congradulations Debian - Comercial product coming ! [Long]

[Paul McHale]

Just got this from pointcast !


---


Story

VA Linux, SGI, fund retail version of Debian GNU/Linux
October 12, 1999 3:55 PM EDT


SAN FRANCISCO, (Reuters) - Three companies have teamed up to fund the
packaging of another version of the upstart Linux operating system called
Debian GNU/Linux, which was developed by a group of about 500 independent
programmers.

VA Linux Systems Inc., a maker of systems that run the upstart Linux
operating system, workstation maker SGI (SGI.N) and book publisher O'Reilly
& Associates are sponsoring the packaging of Debian GNU/Linux for sale at
retail.

Until now, Debian GNU/Linux, which was created by a group of developers
called the Debian Project, has been available over the Internet for free.
The Debian Project is an open source project, where developers access a
product's source code for free and share their work over the Internet, in
order to create better, bug-free software.

In retail stores, Debian GNU/Linux will compete with Red Hat Linux and a few
other retail versions of the software, which has become increasingly popular
in the past year as a competitor to Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT.O) Windows NT
for some applications.

Linux is a version of the UNIX operating system that was developed by Linus
Torvalds, a Finnish programmer. Torvalds manages the updates and additions
to Linux.

VA Linux Systems said Debian GNU/Linux is the second most popular version of
Linux among hardware customers after Red Hat Linux, which is distributed by
Red Hat Inc. (RHAT.O), the first company in the Linux space to go public.

``Debian has a few qualities that make it interesting,'' said Brian Biles,
vice president of marketing at VA Linux Systems. ''It's our second most
requested distribution.''

O'Reilly & Associates, a publisher of books on the Internet and open source
software in Sebastopol, Calif., will include its new book, ``Learning to use
Debian GNU/Linux,'' in the Debian package, which will retail at an
introductory $19.95.

The Debian CD package will also include 1440 open source software packages
and a demo of Loki Entertainment's ``Myth II: Soulblighter'' game software,
which runs on Linux.

One of the most popular features in Debian GNU/Linux is ''apt-get,'' which
automates free network downloads of all software package updates, making the
Debian CD the last CD a user may need to keep their system up-to-date with
Linux.

SGI, based in Mountain View, Calif., is helping to sponsor the project by
helping VA Linux with the cost. Sales for Debian GNU/Linux will be donated
to Software in the Public Interest, a nonprofit group for open source
projects, including Debian.

VA Linux Systems, based in Sunnyvale, has two Debian programmers who work on
Debian full time while at VA Linux. Last week, VA Linux Systems filed a
registration statement with the Securities and Exchange Commission to raise
$70 million in an initial public offering. Chip giant Intel Corp. (INTC.O)
is among the investors of VA Linux Systems.

``We want to give back to the community,'' said Biles. ''(Debian) has been a
cornerstone of the open source community. It's a way for them to give back
to their audience.''

The Debian Project, which started in the mid-1990s, is central to the open
source community.

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Commercial Debian - For those that requested a link

[Paul McHale]

Here is a summary:

"SGI, VA Linux Systems, O'Reilly Associates, and the Debian Project are
coming together to place another retail distribution of Linux on the market,
but this one has a twist: it's non-profit."


I didn't have a link from pointcast, but I did find this one:

http://linuxtoday.com/stories/11071.html




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RE: OT: MS Security not centralized at all

[Paul McHale]

(sorry it is long and ends a bit opinionated )
(first part may be useful for NT users ! )

> I'm getting weary of looking in a dozen or more locations for the
> patches I need to keep my Windows NT systems up to date. As you know,
> Microsoft locates patches in various directories on its FTP site and in
> various locations on its Web sites. As an example of the

At one point I would have agreed with this.  I now administer both a Debian
server and an NT server.  Microsoft now has Debian apt-get like
functionality on their web page.  Not original, but it works similarly.
They download a small app which compares what you have with the latest
version(s) and gives you a menu of updates with description(s).  It works
well.

This is another case where Microsoft didn't invent the wheel, they just
implemented the idea pretty well.  For that matter, I am not sure Debian
invented the wheel.  A lot of network purchased apps have offered this for
some time.  I do think debian is the first OS provider with the gusto to use
it at the OS level.

Now don't take me as a Microsoft evangelist.  I'm certainly not.  I'm simply
using the tools I need for the specific jobs I need them for.  There are
some areas where Linux is a poor fit (non-networkable windows printers comes
to mind).  There are other where I think it is a toss up.  I.e. The web
server issue is a toss up.

Personally, I think it is awesome that a bunch of volunteers can make the
richest man in the world running the one of the most powerful software
companies ever need an impromptu trouser change once in a while.  The great
news is the trouser change frequency appears to be increasing :)

I would recommend the original poster go back to Microsoft's web site and
look for the automated update option listed under downloads tab.  Maybe that
will help.  I don't know how quickly security updates are posted there.
Just for the sake of comparison, I don't know how quickly apt-get will
reflect security updates either.

( start opinionated part !!! )
Anyway, right tool for the right job.  Excellent work Linux and especially
Debian.  Truly amazing.  I try not to show bias when discussing technical
matters, but I will admit I am not feeling sorry for Mr. Gates.  His
previous tactics can't touch Linux.  Even if he does give away his OS !
Linux could still say "Show me the source".

In the end, I don't so much think Linux will be remembered as much for
producing Linux.  Instead Linux will be remembered for producing a
development model which led to open source businesses like Redhat and
competing with (arguably, bias bit=0) monopolistic predators and winning.

I have no idea how he will compete with Linux.  He's a smart guy.  It should
get interesting.  I just find it hilarious that his own "run out of business
by giving it away" model (Internet explorer/Netscape) is now causing him
problems.  Not to mention open source.  Interesting that the other unix
suppliers aren't complaining !  For now I guess he will resort to a
neo-political style mud slinging attack.  He should keep in mind these are
not TV zombied political voters.  They are technical people parting with
cash...





-Original Message-
From: Colin Marquardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 3:48 PM
To: Debian-User Mailing List
Subject: Re: OT: MS Security not centralized at all


* Fabien Ninoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> - Forwarded message from WNT Mag Security UPDATE
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
[...]
> **
> WINDOWS NT MAGAZINE SECURITY UPDATE
> The weekly Windows NT security update newsletter
> http://www.winntmag.com/update/
> **

> [snip]

> 1. FROM THE EDITOR ==

> Hello everyone,

> I'm getting weary of looking in a dozen or more locations for the
> patches I need to keep my Windows NT systems up to date. As you know,
> Microsoft locates patches in various directories on its FTP site and in
> various locations on its Web sites. As an example of the
[...]

And I quote from
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/news/msnw/LinuxMyths.asp:

| Linux system administrators must spend huge amounts of time
| understanding the latest Linux bugs and determining what to do
| about them. This is made complex due to the fact that there isn't
| a central location for security issues to be reported and
| fixed. In contrast Microsoft provides a single security repository
| for notification and fixes of security related issues.
| Configuring Linux security requires an administrator to be an
| expert in the intricacies of the operating system and how
| components interact. Misconfigure any part of the operating system
| and the system could be vulnerable to attack. Windows NT security
| is easy to set up and administer with tools such as the Security
| Configuration Editor.

See? This "weekly Windows NT security update newsletter" can only be
a hoax. Microsoft *themselve

RE: Smail help needed from newbie

[Paul McHale]

Abdul,

I had a similar problem with exim.  It complained about relaying mail when I
tried to send mail through it using Outlook on a networked PC.  I would
recommend re-running exim.conf.  Try selecting another option at the first
question, server type.  This took care of the problem for me.

-paul

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Abdul Aziz
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 1:25 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Smail help needed from newbie


"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" wrote:
>
> How far does the mail get before it bounces? (does it get to your ISP's
mail
> server?)  It could be that your machine name is not a valid domain name,
and
> therefore DNS confirmation fails.

Thanks for the reply - it does not get to the ISP's mail server but
stays in local machine, and gets bounced back to user who sent it.
I did try exim but had exactly the same problem, so installed smail
instead.


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RE: 100Mbit/10Mbit, Network Interface Card (NIC)

[Paul McHale]

Christian,

3Com 3C905 series seems well supported.  This card is actually flaky during
install under windows, but runs very well with Linux.  The 3Com Etherlink
(ISA) works well also.  Either one has been trouble free.  I think any
NE2000 card will do as well.

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Christian Ericsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 11:33 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: 100Mbit/10Mbit, Network Interface Card (NIC)


Can you recommend a good NIC running at both 10Mbit and 100 Mbit that
Debian GNU/Linux 2.1
have device drivers support? The NIC must also be a selling product today
(I don't want old stuff!)?


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syslog configuration trouble

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

   I had my router sending syslog messages to my NT workstation with a
syslogd running there.  I changed the router to send messages to my debian
server and added the following line to the /etc/syslog.conf file:

local7.*-/var/log/router/router.log

   When I type:

logger -p local7.info "this is a test"

   I get this in the /etc/log/router/router.log file:

Oct 20 09:11:41 debian root: this is a test

   The router messages never show up.  Any ideas ?

-paul

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Stateful Packet - Firewall

[Paul McHale]

Does anyone know of a Stateful packet inspection firewall for Linux
(preferably debian) ?


thanks,

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RE: gnu-pop3d

[Paul McHale]

Richard,


I would make sure your winbox mail client is configured to use a valid
account/password on the linux box.  If it is, I am not sure what the problem
is.  With my setup, Linux is where the mail is actual sent.  My account
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My mail client
(outlook89) is configured with pmchale/password.  The only other thing I
could figure is GNU might use some other source for passwords.  Using
another pop3 daemon would solve this.

You might try cucipop or qpopper.  Both installed in seconds on mine and
either one ran without a hitch.  Both initially use standard name/password
for access.  This doesn't fix your problem but will give you a second point
of reference.

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Richard Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 8:44 AM
To: Debian User List
Subject: gnu-pop3d


Hi,
I have my debbox, set up so that exim delivers local mail, and I can run
fetchmail to retrieve pop3 mail to a local mailbox. I now wish to be able to
download this mail to my winbox on the internal network. I installed
gnu-pop3d and added it to inetd.conf, and I can telnet to port 110 just fine
and get the response,
+OK POP3 Welcome to GNU POP3 Server Version 0.9.8
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
man.ac.uk>

So I take it the pop3d is running ok. However no matter what
username/password I use, I receive bad password responses. My inetd.conf
line is,
pop-3   stream  tcp nowait  mail/usr/local/sbin/gnu-pop3d
gnu-pop3d

and services line is,
pop-3   110/tcp # POP version 3

Could somebody with experience in pop3d or otherwise offer my a solution to
the problem. Also, is this actually the correct way to go about retrieving
mail to my winbox?

Thanx
Richard


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RE: just curious about Debian vs Redhat

[Paul McHale]

Charlie,
 
I am 
not sure what you mean by upgrade.  Debian offers a unique program called 
apt-get which will download and install any package in .deb format.  
It also scans for packages which have been updated.  It then 
downloads and updates them automatically.  I haven't seen this in any other 
OS other than microsoft.
 
-paul

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  1:07 AMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: just 
  curious about Debian vs Redhat
  I've used both Debian (at home) and Redhat (at 
  work).
  Both have reasonable tools for managing 
  software (dpkg for Debian, rpm for Redhat).
   
  I've also done upgrades for both Debian and 
  Redhat.
  The upgrade I did for Debian took several nights and a few 
  e-mails.
  The upgrade for Redhat took about 20 minutes (no 
  joke).
   
  What is Debian's thrust?  Why is it better than 
  Redhat?
  [I'm just curious and not taking 
  sides.]
   
  Charlie
   

RE: Compact version for running on 486/33 or /66 with 8->32 Mb ram

[Paul McHale]

I also use a 486-DX2-66 with Slink.  It works awesome.  I don't use X as I
only have 20MB RAM.  It was enough to run apache, FTP and Exim/Cucipop (mail
server).  So far it has been *very* reliable.  I removed apache because I
use IIS under NT to get easy support for frontpage.  It is capable though of
all that with 20MB.

The only problem may be disk size.  I think I use about 500MB with all the
stuff I have installed.  I could probably reduce that, but I don't need to
...  I don't know what the minimal install size is.  You might try computer
shows.  I found new 1GB hard drives for $30.  ATM machines still use them.
It's funny, windows on the same system had issues with greater than 500MB
disk.  Linux went right into 1GB without effort.

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hately [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 5:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
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ram
Importance: Low


> While worming through the pages I found a reference to
> a compact verison of Debian installation that was
> designed to work on a 486.

Slink works on a 486. I'm running it on two 486 DX2 at home. One with 8MB of
ram, which is too little, one with 20MB which is plenty.

The 20MB ram machine has a 200MB disk of which about 60 is swap. On the rest
is one partition. I installed "basic machine ~25MB" then added the stuff I
needed. /usr/src is mounted over nfs (I always build the smallest possible
working kernel as soon as the machine is up and running). I seem to remember
not installing some of the suggested documentation packages. There is still
free space on the disk, but /home is more or less empty.

The 8MB ram machine has a 2.5GB disk of which 128MB is swap and the rest is
one big partition. Again I installed "basic machine ~25MB" then added things
a bit at a time. On this machine /home is mounted over nfs. Previusly this
machine had 24MB of ram and ran X and numerous applications (e.g. LyX)
satisfactorily. Now with less ram I find it swaps too much to run X, even X
clients are rather hampered - I reconfigured this machine solely to cut
CDroms; which it does successfully from cdwrite but xcdroast produces
coasters due to timeouts from swapping. The 2.5GB disk is mostly empty most
of the time but I want to use it to store iso9660 file system images between
cuts.

As long as you don't need to run the gimp, just install the minimum to do
what you want and avoid unnecessary daemons (apache, x font server, etc) a
486 can be a reasonable linux box.

Andrew


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RE: Utilities for keeping time sync for a machine behind a firewall ?

[Paul McHale]

I added the following command to my root crontab (type: crontab -e):

1  0   * * *   /usr/sbin/rdate ntp2.usno.navy.mil >> $HOME/tmp/out 2>&1

This updates the local clock once a day which is more than is probably
needed ...

Take out the ">> $HOME/tmp/out 2>&1" and root will get a mail message when
the task executes.  If you don't want this daily verification put this back
in.

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Shaul Karl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:49 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Utilities for keeping time sync for a machine behind a firewall
?


I am behind a firewall.
What utilities are there that will let me keep the time synchronized with
another machine on the Internet ?


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Debian Linux vs BSD

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

Anyone know any differences between FreeBSD and (debian) Linux?  I currently
am using debian and am pretty happy with it.  My ISP uses FreeBSD.  The
Linux newsletter mentioned the super secure version of BSD called OpenBSD.
Has anyone worked with either of these ?  Are they comparable to Debian ?

-paul


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RE: Debian Linux vs BSD

[Paul McHale]

Onno,

Thanks for the links.  Pretty awesome.  Doesn't appear there is a clear cut
advantage of BSD over Debian Linux.  It does appear to be a great
alternative.  Maybe I will install it later to see if it is as much fun as
Linux.  At this point Linux is a key internet server for me so I can't use
that PC.

It looks pretty nice with the exception of the differences between command
operations.  I.e. killall.  I am not saying either one does it correctly,
simply they are different.

There is one question.  They announce openBSD ships with a secure version of
ProFTP.  The version appears to be older than the bug version(s).  Is there
something inherently different about BSD that it was not affected by the bug
?

thanks again,

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Onno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:58 AM
To: Paul McHale
Cc: debian-user
Subject: Re: Debian Linux vs BSD



>Anyone know any differences between FreeBSD and (debian) Linux?  I
currently
>am using debian and am pretty happy with it.  My ISP uses FreeBSD.  The
>Linux newsletter mentioned the super secure version of BSD called OpenBSD.
>Has anyone worked with either of these ?  Are they comparable to Debian ?

In order:

http://www.daemonnews.org/199909/freebsd.html

http://slashdot.org/askslashdot/99/10/17/2317202.shtml

http://slashdot.org/search.pl?topic=bsd

Let me know what you think of it,

Regards,

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RE: YourDomain setup

[Paul McHale]

You 
don't need more than one computer for domain name registration.  As 
cyber-#$#$# have shown, you don't need any computer to register a domain.  
If you are going to run your own DNS server, you may want to have a backup 
server or secondary server.  When I registered mine, I went to http://www.networksolutions.com/ to 
see if the domain I wanted was available.  If it is, register it.  
Call your ISP for information about their DNS servers with IP numbers.  
This will save you money when registering.  If you register without ISP 
information, the cost is higher.
 
Next 
call your ISP and ask him to make entries in his DNS tables to point to the 
static IP of your web server.  I would recommend arranging this with your 
ISP ahead of time so they can give you any pointers you may 
need.
 
-paul

  -Original Message-From: Daniel Yang 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 28, 
  1999 10:14 PMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: 
  YourDomain setup
  I just set up my apache web server. I am 
  thinking if I could register my own domain name and connect my web server to 
  Internet, that would be nice. What do I need to  do to make it happen? I have only one computer and some one 
  told me that I need at least two to be qualified for domain name registration. 
  Your suggestions?
  Thanks
  Daniel
   

apt-get not updating

[Paul McHale]

Looking at the debian security page, I see the cron utility has been upgrade
to fix a security problem.  This was in august.  When I run "apt-get update"
it appears to run correctly.  When I run "apt-get dist-upgrade", nothing
happens.

Here is the /etc/apt/sources.list file:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US

Should I have other paths?

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RE: apt-get not updating

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Thanks for the help.  I was surprised it didn't upgrade cron as I expected,
but it did upgrade several other packages :)  Cron must somehow be upgraded
or the patched cron must still be considered unstable...

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Dave Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 8:13 AM
To: Paul McHale
Cc: Debian-User
Subject: Re: apt-get not updating


On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Paul McHale wrote:

> Looking at the debian security page, I see the cron utility has been
upgrade
> to fix a security problem.  This was in august.  When I run "apt-get
update"
> it appears to run correctly.  When I run "apt-get dist-upgrade", nothing
> happens.
>
> Here is the /etc/apt/sources.list file:
>
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US
>
> Should I have other paths?
>

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/


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RE: Debian Linux vs BSD

[Paul McHale]

This was my mistake.  There is a link on the openBSD site to "ports".  This
link is to the xBSD general repository which I mistakenly thought was the
openBSD repository.  The ProFTP program is part of the general repository.
Sorry for the confusion.

I also assume this means that openBSD is more secured as long as what you
need comes with openBSD as part of their closer reviewed distribution.
Installing anything else would presumably cause the same bugs under openBSD
as it would under freeBSD.

openBSD code review must have been quite an impressive effort to say the
least...

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Gregan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 7:54 AM
To: debian-user
Subject: Re: Debian Linux vs BSD


On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 01:30:19PM -0400, Paul McHale wrote:

> There is one question.  They announce openBSD ships with a secure
> version of ProFTP.  The version appears to be older than the bug
> version(s).  Is there something inherently different about BSD that it
> was not affected by the bug ?

Where is this announcement, on the OpenBSD website?

I don't know what the story is with ProFTPD in OpenBSD in regard to
security, but recently on the OpenBSD mailing list, Theo de Raadt
(leader of the project), stated that ProFTPD won't be secure without a
complete rewrite... I'm not sure if the version in the OpenBSD
distribution has been audited by the team or not, though.

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RE: BUG

[Paul McHale]

My experience with debian was identical.  I started with slackware beta way
back when (20 something floppies).  Then went Redhat.  Haven't used either
in a long time.  I don't think it would have mattered much.  The Debian
install is unique.  I had a working system and re-installed anyway when I
realize I could have made more ideal configuration choices during install.
I installed a ton of stuff I didn't need.  Doing a fresh install is a nice
way to have a "clean" system, whatever that means :)

-paul

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Haude [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 8:33 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: BUG


On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Kent West wrote:

> smoothly as it should have (for whatever reason). Although this
> next idea is a child of the Windows mentality, you might want to
> redo the install from the beginning. A more experienced person
> would fix the problem rather than reinstall, but a newbie from
> the Microsoft world might find a reinstall both educational and
> helpful.

You don't need to come from the Microsoft world to find this useful. I've
been a long-time user of a small (non-X) Slackware system and switched to
Debian a short while ago. I've now installed the system three times over,
but I now got it down and think that Debian is a great system.

The reason for this is that the Debian package management is quite non-
intuitive, but it works great once you've got it figured out. During the
package selecting/configuring phase of my first install, I missed the
significance of many package settings or interrelationships between
packages and didn't understand what dselect tried to tell me about it. So
I ended up with a buggy, non-working installation. Much of my trouble,
however, was in my case also owed to a definitely faulty hardware.

I now know what it means if they tell you: Debian is NOT for the beginner,
but also an experienced Linux user will have minor troubles. After a few
frustrating days and a few re-installs, however, you are an experienced
Debian user with an extremely well-built system where everything is to be
found in the right place. Something you can't say after the first SuSE
install which most likely runs quite smoothly. Nothing against SuSE, btw.
It's just that it doesn't _force_ you to get acquainted with it, so if you
run into trouble later, it's more difficult to get out again.

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RE: GUI for Samba

[Paul McHale]

See this page:

http://us1.samba.org/samba/GUI/

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Subject: Re: GUI for Samba


Brant Wells wrote:
>
> Hi all...
>
> Does anyone know of a GUI config program for Samba??
>
> Thanx
>
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RE: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How?

[Paul McHale]

Yet another recommendation for backing up system configuration only.  I
guess we should be keeping root log files which we use to describe when and
what we changed.  That way, when we break something, it is easier to
backtrack.  Use this to tell changed files in the OS and back those up only.
Another way I use is to copy a file to .org whenever I modify it for the
first time.  I.e. exim.conf would copy to exim.conf.org.  Then use locate
and find all of the .org files.  These files are not real useful in
themselves.  Instead back up the corresponding non-.org file (I.e.
exim.conf).

I just copy the files to a user home directory and FTP them to another
machine for backup.  This is a potential security issue due to the ease of
FTP access, but on my isolated network it's no problem.  If it is an issue,
you could tar, compress and encrypt if it is worth the trouble.

This must be done manually, but only needs to be done when you change the
configuration.

paul

-Original Message-
From: E.L. Meijer (Eric) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 3:37 AM
To: debian
Subject: Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system?
How?


On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 06:29:45PM -0800, John Miskinis wrote:
> Hi,

[...]

> This leads me to ask if most people just backup their important
> files on linux, and if they lose their system, they reinstall from
> scratch, then restore just their important (user modified) files?

Not even that.  I only safeguard my own products (TeX files, fractals,
programs).  The rest I have on CD, and the second time I install
something I usually configure things faster.  Sometimes it is nice to
try some new settings.

> This is how I always worked on Windows 95.  If I had a builtin
> CDROM, and linux was easier to install I might opt for this, but
> on my Thinkpad 560, it took me 4-5 hours to get everything back.

It probably would take me the same amount of time.  But then again, it
doesn't happen a lot.

Eric

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RE: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How?

[Paul McHale]

I would definitely be interested in the web page !  Something else I use
Disk Image.  It creates a complete image of your HD saving all partitions to
a file on another hard drive.  This file can be restored later and presto,
you have a complete system the way you left it :)  This was intended for
commercial outfits like Dell.  They configure a system once and then
duplicate the HD.

If you do, any disk will work as a secondary disk and the whole program fits
on one floppy !  You still need a boot floppy.  I burned a CDROM and have a
boot floppy that will boot almost any system (in DOS) and give a menu of
most all the available CDROM drivers.  I then put CDROM in and restore the
saved image.

This is probably not practical for routine backups.

paul

-Original Message-
From: John Miskinis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 6:03 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system?
How?


Hi,

   Thanks for the replies, it's really nice to know how others
deal with the "backup" issue(s).

   I'm really hoping to implement a backup strategy that will allow
me to backup/restore my entire linux system.  Over the last 10
hours or so, I have been researching "taper" as a means.  I checked
out a couple others, but one needed libc5 libraries, and I wasn't
sure if the other would work with multiple volumes.

   Taper seems to be quite slick.  I did a full backup, which only
spanned 2 volumes, instead of 3 with kbackup.  Unfortunately I
can't seem to fit "taper" on my rescue disk.  It has library
dependencies (curses? forms?) but allows static building.  But
the static binaries become QUITE large.

   I tried pruning down my rescue system as small as possible, but
I think I need to start from scratch again.  I use "zdisk" which
is also quite slick.  It copies a specified kernel (mine!) and an
MSDOS filed filesystem (compressed).  The MSDOS file system actually
includes an ext2 filed filesystem (compressed) and syslinux.  It was a
little trickly to figure it out, but I did, and am impressed.  BUT, I think
my MSDOS filed filesystem is not compressing as small as it
should, because I have changed it REPEATEDLY.

   I remember seeing some notes somewhere about this (bootkit?) and
why the /dev/zero is used as the input file when creating a file
to be used as a loop device.

   I think it may actually be possible to use zdisk to create a 1
floppy boot/root disk, that will allow a taper restore to happen.
My brain is a little fried after the last 10 hours or so on this
project, but I will be persuing this again in the near future.

   I may have to resort to having the "taper" and "bg_restore"
binaries on a seperate floppy.

   If I ever get this working, I would be interested to know if
people would benefit from a web page on all of this stuff.  I
planned to have a linux on IBM Thinkpad 560 up at some point
anyway, as it's very tricky to get linux on this machine with
no network connectivity and no builtin CD!

John



>From: "E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: debian 
>Subject: Re: Does anyone use ZIP disks to backup/restore their system? How?
>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:37:07 +0100
>
>On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 06:29:45PM -0800, John Miskinis wrote:
> > Hi,
>
>[...]
>
> > This leads me to ask if most people just backup their important
> > files on linux, and if they lose their system, they reinstall from
> > scratch, then restore just their important (user modified) files?
>
>Not even that.  I only safeguard my own products (TeX files, fractals,
>programs).  The rest I have on CD, and the second time I install
>something I usually configure things faster.  Sometimes it is nice to
>try some new settings.
>
> > This is how I always worked on Windows 95.  If I had a builtin
> > CDROM, and linux was easier to install I might opt for this, but
> > on my Thinkpad 560, it took me 4-5 hours to get everything back.
>
>It probably would take me the same amount of time.  But then again, it
>doesn't happen a lot.
>
>Eric
>
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RE: telnet not working on home LAN

[Paul McHale]

10.0.0.0 is what is called a private IP.  It sounds like you have a DSL
router or something similar.  It is using network address translation.  The
only public IP is assigned to the router by your ISP.

When a machine on your LAN talks through your router, the router strips off
the IP of the local machine and puts the router's own public IP in it's
place and sends it out as it's own message.  When a reply comes back, the
router does the opposite.  It strips it's own IP out and puts your local
machine's IP back in.  You local machine never knows the difference.

To telnet in under these circumstances, you must do two things:

1. Find out the Public IP of your router or DSL modem or cable modem.
2. Set up your router to forward all telnet (port 21) request to your debian
machine.

Your public IP of your router may change each time you log in.  This is
called a dynamic IP.  If it is the same and assigned to you permanently, it
is a static IP.

If it is dynamic, please go to www.tzo.com.  They will register a domain for
you.  Then you run local software on your Linux or windows machine which
tells them you connected and what you IP is.  You domain will be
your_domain.tzo.com.  When you run their software, it will update their DNS
so your_domain.tzo.com will always point to your machine.

I have done this before with a friends DSL router and his home network.
What router type do you have ?  I might know some web pages you can use to
configure it.

Saying it another way, 10.0.0.0 is not a public IP and cannot be routed on
the internet.  This address must be translated to a public IP number.  A lot
of people do this with a private IP like 10.0.0.0 or 192.168.0.0.  Then get
one IP number which is cheaper.  They use network address translation to
allow all of them to share the one public IP.  The only part of your network
that is visible to the internet is your router.  To set up local servers,
you must tell the router which machine gets requests from the internet for
each thing like FTP,WWW,Telnet,Gopher.

If you have any questions, please write back.  This is a little confusing at
first glance !

paul

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:16 AM
To: debian-User@Lists.Debian.Org
Subject: telnet not working on home LAN


Hi all,

Just put Debian on a second PC and having problems telnetting in from work.

Trying 10.0.0.2...
Connected to 10.0.0.2.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

Anyone know why I'm not getting a login?  Is there a way to use the
connection...perhaps telnetd isn't installed but I thought it was.

Thanks in advance.

Patrick


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RE: Auto blanking of xscreensaver

[Paul McHale]

You might try:

setterm -blank 0

This works in text mode and may work with X since X runs on the term.  This
will prevent the screen from ever blanking !

paul

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Auto blanking of xscreensaver


Hi all,

I have xscreensaver and xlock installed on Slink.  When I lock
my screen, everything works fine for about 10 minutes and then
my display goes blank.

Is there any way I could keep the screensaver running longer
without the blanking?


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test

[Paul McHale]

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server reliability tools

[Paul McHale]

What IP server reliability tools are there ?  The only one I can find is
nsmon.  Are there any others ?

thanks,

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SLINK and SMP

[Paul McHale]

Does anyone know if Slink (2.1 on CD) has SMP support ?

paul

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RE: dselect vs apt

[Paul McHale]

It appears Corel/Debian Linux offers some X graphical interface to deslect.
Check out:

http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/highlights.htm

paul

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Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:23 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dselect vs apt




Urban Gabor wrote:
>
> Though it might be a lamer question, I would like to know the major
> differences between dselect and apt.

dselect is menu based, and apt is command-line based.
dselect is slightly confusing, and apt is pretty straightforward.

I think xdselect (if there's any such thing) would be a lot neater than
dselect.

>I do not upgrade my boxes via ftp, I
> allways (more or less :-)) ) wait till the new release is assembled in CD
> images. Why would I switch to apt?

I always do the installation using the Net, 'cause I don't have the CDs
yet...

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RE: upgrading from corel linux to potato

[Paul McHale]

Maybe the more important question is how will Corel offer an upgrade to
Corel Linux?  Corel is clearly a polished distribution for end users similar
in nature to windows users.  As long as Corel offers a timely update when
potato becomes available, I think their objective is met.  For the more
typical, commercial end users this is probably more desirable.  Provided
they can incorporate a potato based upgrade in a timely fashion.

Having said that...  If they only changed it so you could not upgrade to
potato directly (keep people coming back for theirs), that would be
understandable yet a bummer.  They offer nice additions.  I just wonder how
much more work it would have been to make Corel upgradeable to potato
directly...

paul

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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 9:25 PM
To: aphro
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Subject: Re: upgrading from corel linux to potato


aphro wrote:
> i have a feeling corel will have a glibc2.1 update to their linux not long
> after potato is released ..very few will want to try to upgrade from corel
> to potato ..it would be too painful

It wouldn't be, if corel hadn't done stupid things with kde-corel.

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RE: Problems with Asus P2B-DS/350 and double PIII 450

[Paul McHale]

I am pretty sure the Asus uses the standard Adaptec chipset which other have
reported as problematic with Debian.  Here is an excerpt from a previous
post I saved:

-
I've got an unofficial installation diskset for slink that's setup
specifically for the Adaptec SCSI controllers.  You can snarf it from
.

Basically you'll need to boot from the diskette, but can then use the
CD as your installation media...
-

I think this might take care of the problem.  Please post if it does ...

paul

-Original Message-
From: Enrico Zini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 5:56 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problems with Asus P2B-DS/350 and double PIII 450


Hello!

I have a dual Pentium III 450 system with an Asus P2B-DS/350 main board,
in which I removed everything but the floppy drive and the IDE CD-Rom,
master on the second channel.

The standard Debian boot disk hangs probing the Adaptec SCSI card bundled
in the main board; I tried making custom boot kernels with 2.2.13 and
everything hangs asking if I have a color monitor.

I'm trying to build the smallest possible 2.2.13 boot kernel for that
server, but I have no idea what could be the cause.

Is there some boot problem HOWTO or some other source of information about
problems booting linux or hardware problems with Linux in general? Windows
NT boots, installs and seems to work fine.

Is there some known problem with Linux and this Asus mainboard, or with
double Pentium III?

TIA, Enrico



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OT: MS C++.net vs Borland Builder (with Linux support in future)

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I have to decide between Borland C++ builder and MS.NET for a relatively
simple windows GUI development.  Given there are quite a few very
experienced developers here, I thought some of you may have preferences.

I am new to C++ and builder looks much simpler to develop for.  Any
recommendations welcome.  One strong motivation for Borland builder is the
impending Linux version.  Is this real?  Will it actually be cross platform
compatible?

Many thanks,

Paul


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Heard there was a problem with potato first release

[Paul McHale]

I am going to a computer show this weekend and would like to buy the CDs for
potato.  I heard the initial images were flawed.  What is the old/new
release numbers so I know what to ask for?
paul


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Hi,

I just had DSL installed and was told to adjust the DefaultReceiveWindow in
the windows registry.  This dramatically improved performance.  To be clear,
my understanding of the setting is this.  It defines the amount of data
which can be sent before an ACK must be received.

The logic is the overhead of ACKs becomes tremendous as the link speeds up.
I believe the default is 8KB.  That is to say only 8KB can be sent before an
ACK must be received.  With a slow link, this worked great.  Missing ACK -
retransmit only 8KB.  With faster links, one is constantly waiting for ACKs.

My question regards the setting for Linux.  What is the default size?  Where
is it defined?  Please keep in mind, latency is the critical factor here.
When an ACK takes 200ms to be received, it is very detrimental to wait for
ACKs.  Even fast lines often suffer this latency.  Of course, Bandwidth and
Latency are separate issues.  Bandwidth is reduced as a function of latency
due to handshaking nature of the protocol.  This also implies LANs would
suffer as much as the latency should be very low.

Side Issue:  This is what led to dramatic performance increases when sliding
window protocols such as zmodem emerged.  I wonder if TCP/IP uses any
sliding window technology.  Probably not since the parameters of the
exchange are not rigidly defined as in zmodem.  I don't believe it does use
sliding window but would love to hear if it does or will.




Regards,

Paul




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RE: Debian vs. Red Hat

[Paul McHale]

Wayne,

> It's to anyone,  I've mainly used Debian, because of it's
> stability, but our
> ISP has a contractor who's opinion is   "Red Hat's the best,
> thats why they
> are so popular."  I want to dipute this, but I need more than just my own

It is my experience most people feel whatever they are familiar with is the
best for situation.  I don't think I know *that* much about debian.  I do
know .deb is worlds better than .rpm.  When it comes to debian, you are
talking to the choir.

You ISP just has familiarity with red Hat.  This may make it a better
solution for them.  I am biased towards debian, but from an ISP (sysadmin)
standpoint debian is great at installing/maintaining packages.

In my opinion debian could be unfamiliar territory as it doesn't readily
offer graphical configuration utilities like RedHat.  I find these to be
more of a hindrance.  They lead to the windows mentality of "What just
happened?  I don't know either but is works now!".

The install of debian was (is?) pretty painful.  Compared to redhat, it is
monumental for the uninitiated.  I recommend Storm or Corel for the
installation challenged.  I think their install easily rivals Redhat.  It
can't get much easier than Corel.  Storm is not far behind.  Both
(especially Storm) offer apt-get (auto install and maintenance of packages)
with a high degree of debian compatibility.

There are curious parts of debian.  Debian has a religious issues with
/usr/local.  Some packages really want to be there (I.e. apache).  This can
easily be worked around.  You just have to watch when you read documentation
which assumes the software was installed in the /usr/local directory.  Some
publicly available scripts must be modified as well.  All in all, very
workable.  Just a curious departure.

For what it's worth, I have some friends who use redhat.  When it comes to
accomplishing tasks such as setting up a mail server, I can run circles
around them.  Debian is the finest server I have seen with support (this
list server) that would make Gates blush.  Recently, I installed sendmail.
I was up and running in less time than it would have taken me to find and
download the .rpm for Redhat.

Just my biased two cents.

Do keep in mind, I administer my own machines for my own consulting
business.  If I didn't find debian to be better, it would be out of here
yesterday.  I don't get paid for administration of the servers.  They are
expected utilities for a technical company such as mine.  I have tried
Redhat, Mandrake and Slackware.  Debian is the hands down winner for me.  It
simply costs less to operate.

Ironically, I was very happy with NT server.  It was stable enough for my
needs.  I couldn't get Frontpage server extensions to work properly under
IIS with multiple domains.  It started costing me money to play with it.  I
always had a debian mail server.  I installed Apache/frontpage and haven't
looked back.  Sad that frontpage works better under apache than IIS.  Go
figure.

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RE: Debian VS. Red Hat

[Paul McHale]

> > and (getting back to the original question of red hat vs. debian)
> > does red-hat have anything comparable?
>
> The big difference, AFAIK, is that Debian store a lot more packages.
> With Redhat, you can get the base install (that comes with the CD),
> but for the rest, you would have to go for third-party sources.
>

The largest difference I know of is the dependency resolution.  Maybe Redhat
will do this as well.  It's pretty neat when I request a package and end up
getting 3 dependant packages without having to individually request them.
The auto download by itself is very nice.

Another major difference between Redhat and Debian is this list.  There are
some very sharp cookies here who don't mind hanging around even though they
end up answering a lot more questions than they ask.  I don't know if Redhat
has anything comparable.

BTW.  It's remarkable how similar in functionality windows update is to
debian's apt-get.  It is more twinkified (which isn't always bad ...) but
functionally very similar.  It is, of course, limited to Microsoft products.
If they were smart, they offer developers support for their packages at the
microsoft site.  ($$$).  Debian already offers this.  I think this sort of
updating will quickly become as expected as products as shipping on CD.  At
least I hope it does!

OK, Rambling over!

RE: Debian or Stormix

[Paul McHale]

> Now, on the other hand...if people simply do not care to learn
> the sytem and
> want to be 'up-and-running quick' then RH and their tools are good.

This worked for me to a point.  Redhat was up and running quickly, but then
fell apart when something wouldn't work from the GUI based admin tools.
Then the workload went up dramatically to figure out where the problem was.

Debian has a steeper learning curve but then flattens out appreciably.  If
something is configurable, it can usually be tracked down to a configuration
file.  Don't get me wrong.  This fact has in no way impaired my ability to
ask dumb questions :)  It just makes it much easier to continue on.  With
Redhat, if the GUI didn't do it, I was stuck until I traced it down.

Because of this, I won't use a GUI unless it reports what files it modifies
and then makes comments in the files.  Come to think of it, that log would
make an awesome learning tool.  Does Redhat do this???





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Quake II server with debian

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I am getting speakeasy DSL soon (I Hope).  They offer $10/mo rebate if you
send them server logs indicating your server has speakeasy in the name.

My plan is to use a dual PII-333 system as my mail/ftp/web server and run
QII on it in dedicated server mode.  I have seen QII/Linux in Microcenter
for $50.

Has anyone tried this?  Are there any issues with QII in dedicated server
mode (text based/command line) and debian?  Do you think a dual
PII-333/128MB would be enough?  The mail server is lightly loaded (200
messages/day or 3-4MB/day) with the ftp/web extremely lightly loaded.

Any input or tips are appreciated.  I figure I am going to run a server
anyway.  I might as well get a $10/mo rebate for adding a game to the
server.  Just so long as QII doesn't bring the server to a crawl.

If it helps, I will be running Storm/Hail (potato).

Many thanks,

Paul


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SMP and potato

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I seem to remember linux not having very robust SMP support.  I had heard it
was improving.  Does anyone know what the state of it is?  Is potato's SMP
better than slink?  I would think it is a function of the kernel, not the
distro, but I could be wrong.


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RE: ABIT BP6 & UDMA-66: Support for Debian Linux

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I know this isn't helpful, but here is some additional information.  I have
a P233 with a non-UDMA66 45GB hard drive.  I get about 12MB/s.  I question
the utility of the hdparm performance.  This doesn't appear to be random
reads.  Either way, I get much better performance with Storm (based on
debian) using 2.2.16 kernel.  Maybe debian has an older kernel?

paul


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> -Original Message-
> From: wilson [mailto:wilson]On Behalf Of Wilson Yau
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:55 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: ABIT BP6 & UDMA-66: Support for Debian Linux
>
>
> Hi, everyone!
>
> My system is Abit BP6 w/Dual Celeron 500MHz CPUs & 128MB PC-100 SDRAM on
> board.  One 18GB IBM UDMA-66 7200rpm HDD (master) & One 20GB IBM UDMA-66
> 7200rpm HDD (Slave) connected to the first ATA-66 channel.
>
> I frist installed the Gentus Linux (Abit's RedHat-based distribution)
> from the CD come with the main board, and both SMP and UDMA-66
> functioned at after the first boot.  (It's almost a painless
> installation - very smooth indeed.)  Execute "hdparm -t /dev/hde6" gave
> a benchmark of something like 20MB per sec (very impressive! I have
> another system running dual PIII-600 Coppermine with two 9GB SCSI HDD
> which gave a figure something like 18MB/sec)
>
> Then, I changed my mind to remove Gentus and install Debian Potato.  By
> choosing installation from floppies, I downloaded all the required image
> including the UDMA-66 patch from
>
> ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.15
-2000-06-07/images-1.44/udma66/

Installation was fine (the rescue disk could detect the ATA-66 HDD - no
need to swop them to ATA-33 channel during installation).  SMP was not
ready yet. Kernel had to be recompiled.  No Problem!

However, when I did "hdparm -t /dev/hde6" & "hdparm -t /dev/hdf1", this
time it gave a figure between 2 to 3 MB per sec.  Even slower than a
ATA-33 5400rpm HDD in a single PII-266 64MB RAM system.

Q.1/ Can anyone explain to me this phenomenon?

Q.2/ How to optimize my system performance (esp the UDMA-66 HDD) with
Debian Linux?

Many thanks for your help!

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Upgrading Storm (slink) to Potato

[Paul McHale]

Has anyone done this yet?  Could you give details including sources.list
lines used?  I want to run potato due to increased apps support.  I might
just wait for Storm to release a new distro based on potato.

Thanks in advance,

Paul


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Storm vs Slink syslog problem

[Paul McHale]

I have an older slink system which was replaced by a new storm system.  I
copied the /etc/syslog.conf file from slink to storm.  My router logs to
both IPs.  Slink works fine but storm doesn't log any messages.  Directory
permissions are the same.  Here is the line in my /etc/syslog.conf

local7.*-/var/log/router/router.log

Does any know if storm has a modified syslog?  Other changes made for
Sendmail logging work fine.


Thanks in advance,

Paul

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Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

When I type:

   telnet IP_NUM 25

I get:

   telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection Refused

Any ideas ?

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Paul


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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> The server IP_NUM isn't running SMTP ?
> There is a firewall between your host and IP_NUM ?
> You're not connected to the same network ?

> The host is refusing your connection.  It's either IP filtered, denied
> through /etc/hosts.allow or equivalent for the system, or there is no
> SMTP server running.

Additional information in response.  When I do the telnet, it is from the
machine running the mailserver so networking and firewalls shouldn't
interfere.  I can ping out from the machine.  PS shows sendmail is running
with the following message:

Sendmail: Rejecting connection on port 25 : min free: 100

hosts.allow has "sendmail: all".  IP filtering I'm not sure about.


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> From: kmself@ix.netcom.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:35 PM
> To: Debian-User
> Subject: Re: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 10:28:26PM -0400, Paul McHale
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > When I type:
> >
> >telnet IP_NUM 25
> >
> > I get:
> >
> >telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection Refused
>
> The host is refusing your connection.  It's either IP filtered, denied
> through /etc/hosts.allow or equivalent for the system, or there is no
> SMTP server running.
>
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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> Just a wild guess, but:  are you actually typing "IP_NUM" or are you
> substituting a real IP number?
>
> Some servers are configured to refuse telnet connections.  (Telnet

I am actually putting the IP number in :)  I can telnet to the standard
telnet port just fine.  From another machine, that is.  Can telnet be
blocked to certain ports?  PS indicates sendmail is refusing connections
which is probably a bad sign.  I am not sure how to fix it...


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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> Have you tried typing
> 
>   telnet 127.0.0.1 25
> 
> ? Maybe the IP is wrong?

Another good idea!  Unfortunately, it gave the same results.


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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> Strongly recommend you take a look at this rant on problem reporting:

Let's see if I can better address it using the points from a summary you
mentioned.

Point 1: The first aim of a bug report is to let the programmer see the
failure with his own eyes.

This really applies to bug reporting.  I did show what was indicating the
problem.  Namely, telneting to the SMTP port.  Please see previous mail for
syntax used.

Point 2: In case the first aim doesn't succeed, and the programmer can't see
it failing himself, the second aim of a bug report is to describe what went
wrong. Describe everything in detail. State what you saw, and also state
what you expected to see. Write down the error messages, especially if they
have numbers in them.

Did this.

Point 3: When your computer does something unexpected, freeze. Do nothing
until you're calm, and don't do anything that you think might be dangerous.

OK

Point 4: By all means, try to diagnose the fault yourself if you think you
can, but if you do, you should still report the symptoms as well.

Have tried.  Still no clue.

Point 5: Be ready to provide extra information if the programmer needs it.
If he didn't need it, he wouldn't be asking for it. He isn't being
deliberately awkward. Have version numbers at your fingertips, because they
will probably be needed.

Didn't include version number.  It is sendmail 8.9.3 for debian slink.

Point 6: Write clearly. Say what you mean, and make sure it can't be
misinterpreted.
Above all, be precise. Programmers like precision.

I think I was ...

> Anything regarding sendmail or port 25 in your system logs?

Syslog had the following line.

Oct 12 01:10:22 debian tcplogd: smtp connection attempt from localhost
[127.0.0.1]

No other mention.

> It ***helps*** to tell us everything relevant about a situation,
> including whether or not you have command-line access to the system in
> question.   We can't see your system or guess your network configuration
> by telepathy.

As shown in the syntax, I am running telnet from the command line.  As far
as network configuration, I am not sure what information would be important
here.  I am running the telnet from the command line of the server.  I can
ping out and have functionality in ftp.  I see the same error when using
localhost.  Can you be specific when you say network configuration?



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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

> If I recall, the correct line to be used with Sendmail is
>
> sendmail: all
>
> to allow all users.
>

This is what it was set to.  I changed it to try the suggestion.
Unfortunately, it did not improve.  I think I might just upgrade to potato.
I know this is not the best cure, but I am interested in testing the new
storm release anyway.  Thanks for the help everyone!


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RE: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused

[Paul McHale]

Martin,

Thanks for the help!  I didn't see the e-mail yet.  I will eventually go to
storm-hail because I want to upgrade to potato and have been impressed with
storm-rain (slink) used on another system.  I am grateful to have this
resolved.

I have uninstalled a few packages to increase the free disk space.  This
resolved the problem.  Is there an easy way to tell what files are taking up
the space?

Paul


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> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Bialasinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 3:04 PM
> To: Paul McHale
> Cc: Debian-User
> Subject: Re: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused
>
>
> * "Paul" == Paul McHale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Paul> This is what it was set to.  I changed it to try the suggestion.
> Paul> Unfortunately, it did not improve.  I think I might just
> upgrade to potato.
> Paul> I know this is not the best cure, but I am interested in
> testing the new
> Paul> storm release anyway.
>
> No, this is indeed not the best way.
>
> You got the correct answer already, what's wrong with it?
>
> 
> From: brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Telnet to mail host replies connection refused
> To: Debian-User 
> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:06:57 -0700
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:39:20PM -0400, Paul McHale wrote:
>
> > Sendmail: Rejecting connection on port 25 : min free: 100
>
> You're low on disk space on /var -- sendmail will refuse to accept mail
> until it has a place to put it.
> 
>
> You check your diskspace with "df". sendmail wants at least 100
> (kB). Note that anything above 95% diskspace used is only available to
> root.
>
> Maybe your apt cache is quite big. apt-cache clean will remove the
> files.
>
> Ciao,
> Martin
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Apache support for multiple domains

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

I want to do very domain hosting for family and friends.  What I have so far
is multiple IPs and how to assign them to the same Ethernet card.  I also
know how to set up users and allow them to update their own page at
www.mydomain.com/~username.  Here is my attempt at support multiple domains:

I am heading in this direction:  Multiple Virtual servers each with it's own
IP being tied to the following document root directories:

DocumentRoot /sites/www.domain1.com/
DocumentRoot /sites/www.domain2.com/
DocumentRoot /sites/www.domain3.com/

The next question would be: How do I allow users to ftp the their domain and
update the pages?

I plan to add one user per domain and make the web document root their home
directory.  That way FTP will default to that directory for uploading web
pages.

Lastly, I was going to give their account recursive ownership of their
document root.

Does this sound like a plan?  If anyone else has done domain hosting, I
would appreciate the input.  I don't like this because it gives people
accounts on the server.  Because I want them to have file access, I don't
see a way around it.  I guess I'll also give them mail accounts while I'm at
it :)

Best Regards,

paul

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sources.list line to support retrieval of apache source

[Paul McHale]

Does anyone know the line in sources.list for retrieving apache source?  In
the man page, it mentions adding deb-src to the line.  I can't seem to get
the syntax correct.  Does anyone have an example line?

many thanks,

paul


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RE: sources.list line to support retrieval of apache source

[Paul McHale]

I originally had trouble getting apt-get to delete apache.  For some reason
it refused to.  I then went back to dselect and it worked fine.  I have
since manually downloaded apache and am going to install it as you
mentioned.  If for no other reason, storm only comes with 1.3.3 and apache
is up to 1.3.12.

I assume my manually installing apache also means apt-get will no longer
automatically update apache.  This is a bummer.  I happen to need 1.3.12 so
I guess I'll take care of it manually.  If there is a better way, I would
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dominic Blythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 10:50 AM
> To: Paul McHale; Debian-User
> Subject: RE: sources.list line to support retrieval of apache source
>
>
> why not just download it from apache?
> i'm not being glib, i really want to know why not,
> cos that's what i did and i'm always looking for
> better (different) ways to do things.
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> >
> > Does anyone know the line in sources.list for retrieving
> > apache source?  In
> > the man page, it mentions adding deb-src to the line.  I
> > can't seem to get
> > the syntax correct.  Does anyone have an example line?
> >
> > many thanks,
> >
> > paul
> >
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Frontpage recommendations

[Paul McHale]

Hi all,

If you are interested in implementing Frontpage server extensions with
apache, it isn't that bad.  Here are a few pointers:

1. Don't use apt-get.  Download the source and compile yourself.  This puts
apache in /usr/local where most documentation I have found expects it to be.
I am not sure why debian doesn't put apache there, but I'm sure the package
manager had reasons.

2. Get the "Improved mod_frontpage" from Freshmeat.  It has complete
instructions.

3. The only additions is virtual hosts.  If you use them, make sure to
replace all occurrences of:

AllowOverride X   with
AllowOverride All

There are several of them.  The rest works like a charm.  If you need to
support frontpage, it is really pretty easy!  Good luck

Regards,

Paul


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RE: Learning Linux

[Paul McHale]

Title: RE: Learning Linux




You 
Wrote:
Of course Stormix for SCSI installs is 
really bad.  And it locks up hard on some systems because they compile in 
support for old proprietary cd-roms in their boot media.  The look and feel 
of storm Linux OTOH is very nice for the newbie.  Just wish they had gone 
with Windowmaker instead of KDE (or was it Gnome)  I can't remember what 
they used when I installed it.
Reply:
 
I am 
also running stormix.  I would say the install is a little flaky.  It 
locked up on my SCSI card (2940).  I switched to IDE and problem 
solved.  There are some undocumented things which a quick phone call clears 
up.  If it doesn't recognize your video, select text install and it will 
probably let you manually select you video later.
 
Overall, Stormix is pretty good.  They have an 
upgrade for registered users which apparently fixes the SCSI problem.  I 
would install it, but my install works :)  They way to tell is the last 
three digits of the CD.  Mine is -101.  Not the latest.  By the 
way, web/email support is worthless.  Call support is great.  What 
more could you ask for?  Support is limited to 30 days from registration, 
so get while you can.
 
I 
would say stormix is as close to debian as you'll get with the added support for 
easier install and GUI(s).  Well worth it to me :)  Just get the 
latest version from their support department.
 
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RE: Help with apachie

[Paul McHale]

I'll take a stab at it.  Make sure you have the .htaccess file in the
directory you are trying to control access to.  The format should be
something like this:

AuthName "Access"
AuthType Basic
AuthUserFile /usr/apache/conf/htpassword
AuthGroupFile /usr/apache/conf/htgroup

require group users




Now edit the httpd.conf file and make sure "AllowOverride None" is changed
to "AllowOverride All".  Make sure the htgroup file has the desired access
name in it.  I.e.

users: fred john

Now add the password by typing:
/usr/apache/bin/htpasswd -c /usr/apache/conf/htpassword john

Please note you apache is probably not in /usr/apache.  Please substitute
/usr/apache for the apache directory in the example above.  Hope this helps.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Schramm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 10:05 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Help with apachie
>
>
> I am running Debian Slink.  I would like to know how to re-create
> the htaccess password
> file that I deleted at som point.  I know it is simple but I
> cannot find the info anywere
> including Apachie site.  I ran htpasswd -b .password username
> password but that did not fix it.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brian Schramm
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RE: Exim confiuration for virtual hosts

[Paul McHale]

Here is all I add to:

local_domains =
storm.doubleesolutions.com:doubleesolutions.com:desinc.com:signalpipe.com

Just separate the domains by a colon.  I can send the whole configuration
file if you want it.  BTW, I configured using eximconfig.  At first menu
select option 2.

paul


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> -Original Message-
> From: John Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:12 PM
> To: Debian-User
> Subject: Re: Exim confiuration for virtual hosts
>
>
> On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 03:36:05PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote
> > Has anyone installed exim to provide mail serives to a number
> of domains. I
> > have a webserver running virtual hosts and I would like to provide mail
> > serives for those domains. Exim is running fine for sending mail buit I
> > would like to receive the mail for those domains and put all
> the mail for
> > each domain into the user account for that domain.
> > Thanks for any help you can offer.
> >
>
> Here's how I do it.
> The virtual hosts (www.mydomain.com, mail.mydomain.com)
> all have 'A' records pointing to my mail/web server;
> MX records don't work as well, because stupid mail
> programs/systems put the MX host in the envelope.
>
> My exim.conf contains (all single lines, however your mail client displays
> them):
>
> Main section:
>
> local_domains =
> localhost:my.net.au:*.my.net.au:partial3-lsearch;/etc/exim/clients/domains
>
> Directors:
> A new director, to handle the virtual hosts:
>
> virtual:
>   driver = aliasfile
>   except_domains = localhost:my.met.au:*.my.net.au
>   domains = partial3-lsearch;/etc/exim/clients/domains
>   no_more
>   file = /etc/exim/clients/$domain_data
>   search_type = lsearch*
>
> All other directors have a line like
>
>   domains = localhost:my.net.au:*.my.net.au
>
> so that they aren't applied to the virtual hosts.
>
> /etc/exim/clients/domains contains lines like
>
> *.mydomain.com.au: mydomain
>
> The second field is just an identifier, and for each
> identifier there is another file, e.g., /etc/exim/clients/mydomain,
> which works like a regular alias file, e.g.:
>
> *: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> This setup is for virtual domains with three parts in their
> domain name (e.g., *.mydomain.com.au); minor adjustment is
> required if you use "American" style domains (e.g.,
> *.somewhere.com), and you can mix them easily enough (with a
> longer local_domains line and a further director).
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
> John P.
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How to forward by default in exim

[Paul McHale]

I recently received the domain desinc.com from another company.
Occasionally, exim reports that I have mail bound for someone at desinc.com
for which I have no local account.  Is there a way to forward all such mail
to their new domain?

Regards,

Paul McHale


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Unknown error message in exim

[Paul McHale]

Hi,

Has anyone ever seen an error message like this in exim:

1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp: SMTP error
  from remote mailer after RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  host mail-intake-1.iname.net [165.251.8.194]: 522 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
  User over hourly mail quota

Possibly related, I have the following line in exim.conf:

relay_domains_include_local_mx = true

I think this is redundant as I also have the following line for the domain I
want to relay for:

relay_domains = friendsdomain.com:*.friendsdomain.com

Should I remove the relay_domains_include_local_mx?  Is the error indicating
Spam?  Would removing the second line alleviate this?

Thanks for the help,

Paul


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RE: pop3 server w/ virtual domains

[Paul McHale]

Mario,

>   When using exim + virtual domains, is it possible to have a pop3
> server also with virtual domains?

I am not sure how you mean this.  I am virtual serving doubleesolutions.com
and desinc.com.  That only matters to exim.  Once exim decides it is taking
care of the domain, it places the mail in the users mail box.  POP3 just
allows the user to get to the their mail box regardless of what domain
caused it to get their.

If this is correct, POP3 has no notion of virtual domain or even domains.
The MTA (exim) is the only part that cares about domains.

>   I mean, if I have some users with same name under different
> domains, how to serve pop3 for them? Is it possible?

All mail for that user will go to the same mail box regardless of what
domain it is sent to.  Their might be another way of doing this so you can
support [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Smith being two separate
users.  This would probably use aliases of some type.  I can't tell by your
question which way you meant this.  If it is they same person with two
different domain emails (my case) here is what I did in exim.conf:

qualify_domain = doubleesolutions.com
local_domains = localhost:doubleesolutions.com:desinc.com

Mail to either domain goes to user pmchale.

Otherwise, you might have to alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] to local user smith1
and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to local user smith2.  How to do this in exim, I'm not
sure.  You might try http://www.exim.org.

Regards,

Paul

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RE: pop3 server w/ virtual domains

[Paul McHale]

Mario,

I haven't looked at courier-imap, but i should support multiple domains.  In
fact, any pop3 server should be oblivious to the domain.  It simply allows
user access to their email account.  This is independent of the domain.  At
least as far as I know ...

paul


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> -Original Message-
> From: Mario Olimpio de Menezes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:14 AM
> To: Paul McHale
> Cc: Debian User List
> Subject: RE: pop3 server w/ virtual domains
>
>
> On Fri, 12 May 2000, Paul McHale wrote:
>
> > Mario,
> >
> > >   When using exim + virtual domains, is it possible to have a pop3
> > > server also with virtual domains?
> >
> > All mail for that user will go to the same mail box regardless of what
> > domain it is sent to.  Their might be another way of doing this
> so you can
> > support [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Smith being
> two separate
> > users.  This would probably use aliases of some type.  I can't
> tell by your
> > question which way you meant this.  If it is they same person with two
> > different domain emails (my case) here is what I did in exim.conf:
>
> yes, this is what I meant: 2 users with the same name but different
> domains ([EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
>
> I took a look in courier-imap (that support pop3 as well), and I think
> that it can do virtual domains.
>
>
> thanks for you answer,
>
> []s,
> Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
> IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
> http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
>http://www.revistalinux.com.br
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How to change log rotation schedule

[Paul McHale]

I would like for /var/log/mail.* to rotate daily instead of weekly.  When I
use syslogd-listfiles, it verifies mail.* is configured to rotate weekly.  I
checked the syslogd script in /etc/cron.daily and /etc/cron.weekly.  They
are all running as the they should calling savelog according to
configuration.

How do I change configuration to rotate mail.* daily?  If there is a
configuration file, I can't find the rascal anywhere.  A book mentioned
/etc/logrotate.d, but I think this only applies to Caldera.  I would assume
debian has a similar file ...


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Is Storm based on potato or slink ?

[Paul McHale]

I installed stormix which is based on 2.2.13 kernel.  I assumed this storm
release was based on potato due to the kernel version.  When I tried to
install logrotate (which is part of the potato release) I get the following
message:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  logrotate: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1) but 2.0.7.19981211-storm.1 is installed
 Depends: libpopt0 but it is not installable
 Depends: cron (>= 3.0pl1-53) but 3.0pl1-50.2 is installed
 Depends: base-passwd (>= 2.0.3.4) but 2.0.3.3 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

When I do apt-get dist-upgrade, it shows I am up to date.  Does anyone have
experience with Storm?  Is it potato or slink?

Their website claims the latest release of storm is based on Debian 2.1r5.
I thought this was slink, but am not sure how/why they use the latest
kernel.  Maybe they just swapped out hte kernel ...

paul

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RE: sendmail/aliases.db error

[Paul McHale]

I use the command:

makemap hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access

to generate the access.db file.  This might work for aliases as well.



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> -Original Message-
> From: Gary D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 3:56 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: sendmail/aliases.db error
> 
> 
> 
> Hey, everytime I try run sendmail, I get this error ->
> 
> May 17 15:39:22 skynet sendmail[8272]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): 
> Cannot open hash database /etc/aliases.db: Invalid argument
> 
> 
> If tried removing aliases.db, aliases, putting in new ones, simpler ones,
> leaving them blank.  I tried running makedb, tried newalaises, always get
> the same error --
> 
> newaliases gives this error
> Cannot open hash database /etc/aliases.db: Invalid argument
> WARNING: cannot open alias database /etc/aliases
> Cannot create database for alias file /etc/aliases
> 
> 
> please help
> -gary
> 
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RE: DSL and DEBIAN

[Paul McHale]

DSL is 
typically connected to you computers via network.  The protocol is TCP/IP 
which is supported by all Linux, Unix and Windows distributions.  You 
should have no problem.  You just have to configure you computers for IP, 
Netmask and Gateway.  The gateway IP will be the IP of you DSL 
router.
 
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  -Original Message-From: Ben Babich 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 10:24 
  AMTo: debian-user@lists.debian.orgSubject: DSL and 
  DEBIAN
  Hi, 
  does anyone know if there is support for dsl 
  within debian or redhat?
   
  If not, will it be in the plan for the next 
  release?
   
  Regards,
   
  Ben

RE: X setup with SiS 6236

[Paul McHale]

> > Has anyone had success parametrising X with an SiS 6236 AGP? I

I doubt it is helpful, but I have the SiS 6326 (PCI) running under Storm.
Let me know if you want some of the configuration files and I will send
them.

BTW> Storm did not recognize it in the first step of the installation.
There is a second step where you can manually select your video card.  The
PCI version was listed.  I don't remember if the AGP version was.  The
latest storm release of 104 is supposed to be a lot better.  I installed 101
and updated.

paul


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