Re: Debian, Putty and home and end keys
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 03:22:30AM +0100, Agust?n Fern?ndez wrote: > If you want to connect to a debian box from Putty you may notice that > the home and end keys don't work, and just write "~" to the terminal. In > order to get them working you must set the terminal-type string (under > connection, in the configuration) to be "linux" instead of the default > "xterm". I just tried this and found it effective, but there's a trick. The version of PUTTY I'm using (Development snapshot 2002-06-04 on (echhh...) Windows 2K) suddenly began responding correctly to the Home and End keys when I entered the string as above, but also, somewhat counter-intuitively, under Terminal/Keyboard selected Standard for "The Home and End keys" and ESC[n~ for "The Function keys and keypad". That is, selecting Linux for the latter broke End key behaviour. FYI and thanks for the tip. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filesystem error?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 05:00:49PM +, Paladin wrote: > From some time now I've been experiencing some problems with my sarge > debian box, ranging from gcc crashes (any of the three versions I have > installed), to corrupted files (in particular the /var/dpkg/status), > and I don't know how to discover where the problem is! I've even used > the memtest86 utility to see if it was a problem in the motherboard (I > have an ECS K7S5A and there are some reports of bugs in it). As anyone > experienced any kind of these problmes? I have one of these boards and have problems with memory errors. Have you tried running a memory test (before booting, such as the one on the Linux BBC) overnight? Mine tends to fail on the more exotic tests that take a couple of hours to get to. I cut back the cpu/memory speed in the BIOS and mine now runs solidly, but slower than spec. Life is full of tradeoffs -- this board was very inexpensive and for me it's still fast enough. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD - driving me crazy...
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:11:47PM +, Vittorio wrote: > I'd like to watch movies by means of my PC DVD reader. > > Now, I've installed ogle and xine by means of apt-get from debian > stable and compiled mplayer from source. > > None of them works smoothly. > > After having symlinked /dev/cdrom to /dev/dvd (it didn't work at all > before this!) OCCASIONALLY and SELDOM either ogle or xine work fine. Now I'm > unable to even start a DVD movie: xine complains about a missing > plugin for 'xine-ui; ogle simply crashes. Mplayer is the only one > akwardly working issuing "mplayer -dvd nn" with nn=1,2,3. > > Is there anyone out there able to explain what's wrong with those > programs and what to do to make them work (either xine or ogle)? These symptoms suggest a sound server conflict. I know that ogle does in fact crash if it can't get to the sound device. If you are running gnome, kill esd. If you are running kde kill arts. Then give them all a try again. On my machine ogle works fine, but skips some frames. xine was broken in Sid last week - I noticed a new libxine1, so maybe it's fixed now. mplayer from marillat.free.fr works for me, but doesn't do dvd menus. There's also videolan, which has debs and also works. All of them require either killing the sound server or configuring them to use it. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fetchmail stuck on bad messages
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 06:42:08AM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > This is exim's response to fetchmail. You have exim's syntax checking > turned on, so it will reject any incoming message which is > syntactically not a valid email message. This is a good feature if > your MTA receives mail directly from the internet because it blocks a > fair amount of junk. > ... > Since you are using exim 3, make sure the variables > 'headers_check_syntax' and 'headers_sender_verify' are set to false. Thanks dman, good guess. But I had the line # headers_check_syntax commented out in my exim.conf. Just to be sure, though, I did it your way. I did not have a headers_sender_verify, so I added it. So I now have: headers_check_syntax = false headers_sender_verify = false I restarted both exim and fetchmail, but I still have a logjam. However, based on your suggestion, I checked my /var/log/exim/mainlog and found this (apparently once for each bad header): 2003-08-15 07:43:58 unqualified recipient rejected: H=debian (localhost) [127.0.0.1] In my exim.conf I have: qualify_domain = localhost # qualify_recipient = local_domains = localhost:localhost which seems to be the right thing. Does anybody have any other suggestions? -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Traditional Install or Knoppix?
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:57:08AM +, Lou Losee wrote: > I installed via Knoppix. Things went smoothly and I have had no > problems with the apt-get upgrade process. > > However > > There are *situations* to think about: > - By default the install goes into a single partition. There are >howtos to get the /home directories onto another partition, but that >is the default. > - By default the user that is installed is named 'knoppix' again there >are howtos to install with a different user. > - once installed vs running from the cd, knoppix loses all of its >unique hardware detection capabilities. > - knoppix installs alot of packages that a typical user - especially a >newbie doesn't need This is an excellent summary of some of the issues. However, I recently did a major hardware upgrade and I think that it must be pointed out that it may no longer be possible to do a straightforward Woody install on hardware that has been purchased new in the last few weeks. Knoppix, on the other hand, gave me sound and networking "out of the box" on my Soyo DragonLite motherboard with its VIA KT400 chipset, CM8738 sound device, via-rhine networking. It also gave me instant access to my Hauppage Win-TV, my scsi cd burner, and started me out with a root ext3 filesystem. I think the issues mentioned above are quite minor compared to getting all these things working from Woody. I'm now running pretty much pure Sid -- I didn't go straight to a dist-upgrade, but installed many packages individually first. Frankly if I had it to do over, I'd probably just go for it and not pussy-foot around. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 01:10:06PM -0700, Ric Otte wrote: > I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and I called them > up to ask if it would work with Linux. The woman at tech support > confidently assured me, over and over, that it would not work with > Linux. I spoke to her a long time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't > work. She said that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get > an ip address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, and > there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could not explain to > me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely positive it wouldn't. There is some truth to what the woman told you. I just a couple of weeks ago switched over to SBC/Yahoo. I spent an extra few bucks and got the 1.2Mb/256Kb service and it has been rock solid at exactly those rates. I'm running Debian, but I'm connecting via a D-Link DI-614+, so I'm not using Debian's pppoe. I did not do the initial connection via the D-Link, because they do not give you a user-id and you cannot connect without one. Instead, I initially used their install CD on a Windows-XP machine. They install a ton of very ugly garbage on your machine and offer no way of skipping that step even though you actually need none of it. Doing it their way, you cannot get a user ID nor set your password (both required for pppoe of course) until you get past the software install step. After I got my service working on the Windows box, I configured the D-Link to use pppoe and it works fine. I then uninstalled all the Yahoo-supplied software from my Windows-XP machine and reconfigured it to connect via lan. My Debian box required some exim tweaking to use the SBC smtp server and I struggled a bit with that because it requires authentication, but in the end I had a service that's much more stable than the Sprint Broadband that I had before. Fetchmail is set to get my mail every 3 minutes, so the pppoe address has now stayed fixed for a couple of weeks. Also, I set up an account at DynDNS and the D-Link with current firmware uses that automatically, so the lack of a static IP is a non-issue. That was a real concern since I ssh in to my Debian box every day. I initially used ipcheck on Debian, but when I did a firmware update on the router, I discovered that it had added direct support for DynDNS so I killed the cron job I had added for ipcheck. Having said all that, it is possible that a call to support might get you a userID/password. With that, you could skip the garbage installation and configure Debian or a router and be successful, I believe. I just didn't want to deal with them, had a Windows machine handy, and chose what seemed to be the safest course. > The modem/router they give out as part of the deal is a Homeportal > 1000sw. I checked that on the web, and it looks to me as if it uses > pppoe to connect to SBC, and then assigns either static or dynamic ip > addresses to computers plugged into it. It also says that it is Linux > compatible. I got a "free" SpeedStream 5100 as part of the deal. Obviously it works with the DLink. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
> > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 01:10:06PM -0700, Ric Otte wrote: > > > I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and I called them > > > up to ask if it would work with Linux. > * Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030622 21:32]: > > There is some truth to what the woman told you. I just a couple of On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 09:34:50PM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote: > I mentioned the website www.dslreports.com in another post in this > thread and it would be helpful to you too -- or would have been. It is > NOT necessary to use the "Install CD". Too late for you though... Hall appears to be correct, but I did not have an easy time finding it. Ric, check out: http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/952 and you will find instructions for setting up your new SBC Yahoo account with username and password. I have not attempted to follow these instructions because I have my account set up already, but I do wish I had been aware of them, as Hall points out, because it might have saved some time. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: friendly scp (help)
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:52:27PM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 05:28:24PM +0200, Alberto Bert wrote.. > > > I'm looking for a "file manager" like mc, but for scp connections. > > Cause, I often transfere several directories and I have to copy each > > of them with a different command and passwd... :-( > > > > Do you know any nice solution? > > Use mc and ssh. > ...(procedure deleted)... What I do is run mc, then under the LEFT or RIGHT menu select "Shell link...", in the resulting dialog enter [EMAIL PROTECTED], enter my remote machine password at the prompt, and navigate the remote machine in one pane and the local machine in the other. mc truly is an amazing piece of work... -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE2 debs from TDYC
A quick update: shortly after posting my original questions last weekend, new KDE2 .debs were made available on tdyc -- these solved the problems I had been having. I noted this morning (8/24) that yet again new ones were up -- these also work fine. If you don't need KDE for real work and want to see what's up with KDE2, these newest .debs are ready for prime time. I haven't hammered on it extensively, but almost everything I have tried so far works fine. It may even be suitable for real work, but it's too soon for me to go that far. Konqueror, the new file manager, web browser, and swiss army knife is very slick. "Noah L. Meyerhans" wrote: > > THat's not really the case. They're not official Debian packages, so they > don't need to follow the release cycle at all. They are simply built to > work with potato, and will probably continue being developed (at least > until the maintainer gets sick of running 'stable'). > > noah
Patching the kernel
I'm trying to apply the IDE patch so I can get UDMA with my ASUS P5A (Aladdin chipset) motherboard. I know how to build a kernel using make-dpkg and I have successfully applied patches also, but I have not before used a Debian kernel-patch deb. The docs are giving me a splitting headache. I'm told (in the kernel-package/README) that: "If you're using the patch_the_kernel facility, you may want to remove step 2 and instead insert `--config=menuconfig' into the make-kpkg command-line of step 4 (or perhaps use `xconfig' or `config' in place of `menuconfig'). This way, patching the kernel happens before menuconfig (or whichever), and you'll get better defaults for any questions introduced by the patches. (Also look at the --added_patches command line option to selectively apply some patches in conjunction with patch_the_kernel)." This certainly seems like good advice because otherwise the Aladdin options are not available with make xconfig (or whatever config you use). Note however that make-kpkg --help does not include this option. man make-kpkg does mention it, but there is a mysterious semicolon after target. Anyway, I've tried it both with and without the semicolon and neither approach works. Here's my command line: make-kpkg --config xconfig --revision=3:epting-idedma.1 kernel_image and here's the error message: /usr/share/kernel-package/rules:805: *** Need an config file .config. Stop. (At this point, my kernel is possibly patched, because make xconfig does show the new compile options, but then again, maybe not...) So, can you either help me with syntax or give me another way to use a debian kernel-patch file?
Patching The Kernel
Nobody here answered my question about using kernel-patch .deb files, so I'm going to answer myself. This way, anybody searching the list archives will at least gain a little info and maybe get over this hump more quickly than me. I have had a separate email exchange with Manoj Srivastava, the author of the kernel-package docs, that got me through my difficulties. If you have compiled a kernel before installing the patch package, it is likely you will have no problem. The difficulty seems to arise if, like me, you install the kernel-source package and immediately install the kernel-patch package. You need to then either set an ENV variable or add a line to /etc/kernel-pkg.conf: patch_the_kernel := YES. At that point you should be able to do something like: make-kpkg --config xconfig --revision=3:1.epting-idedma.1 kernel_image However, in my case this failed because I lacked an existing .config file in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2..17. My simple-minded solution was to do a make-kpkg clean, then xconfig, change a few things, save and exit. Then the big command above correctly applied the patch, executed make xconfig (allowing me to set up the new options provided by the ide patches) and then proceeded correctly to make a kernel-image .deb. And now I have udma working with my ASUS P5A/ALi 1541 chipset.
Re: help with kde2, kdm and kwm
make sure you have installed the -dev packages of the major kde2 files. Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having troubles to use kwm. I've installed kde2 packages > from tdyc (Ivan's packages). All dependencies are resolved but I'm not > able to start kwm either from kdm (it's not listed) or from .xinitrc, > using startkde. > The individual programs, like kword, kpresenter, killustrator, > and even kde control center works fine.
Re: help with kde2, kdm and kwm
Yes, that's why I didn't have them either. But Ivan (krusty - the maintainer of tdyc's Debian packages) told me to do it, so I did, and it worked. Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: > On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Michael Epting wrote: > > > make sure you have installed the -dev packages of the major kde2 files. > > aren't the -dev packages for development? > > I'm just trying to 'use' kwm, not to compile anything? > > anyway I'll give it a try. >
KDE2 debs from TDYC
There have been some new .debs made available from tdyc the last couple of days. These *almost* work for me, unlike the ones available before yesterday. If anybody else is successfully using these, could you please tell me how you got a panel to appear? By the way, I had to modify /usr/bin/startkde to get much of anything to work. I added: kdeinit +dcopserver kdeinit +klauncher and, later on kdesktop but no joy on the panel.
Re: Net-tools followup
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 11:12:37AM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Needless to say this is *EXTREMELY* stupid behaviour of ifconfig > > and completely breaks your system. > > Okay, for those of you who have iproute installed, you can still get things > up and running using the ip tool. Like this: > > ip addr add 127.0.0.1 dev lo > ip link set lo up > ip route add 127.0.0.0/8 dev lo > ip addr 10.66.2.150 dev eth0 > ip link set eth0 up > ip route add 0.0.0.0/0 dev eth0 metric 1 > > Change eth0 IP and default route as needed of course. This was hilarious. I had shut down my laptop this morning after reading, but not entirely absorbing, the above. This evening when I booted it, I of course could not bring up eth0, which is a Proxim Symphony PCMCIA card. Since I couldn't bring up networking, I couldn't get to this email, which I had read by ssh'ing to my workstation. I have only the current **bad** net-tools .deb in my /var/cache/apt/archives, of course, so there is no hope of restoring the last good one quickly. OK, no problem, I go to my workstation, which I had also upgraded with the bad net-tools and had also shut down (we have a power crisis here in California). However, I don't often apt-get autoclean my workstation, so I quickly dpkp --install the old good net-tools and I'm back in business there. I find and read the above email, but soon discover that I don't have iproute on my laptop. OK, says I, I'll just install net-tools from the Potato CD-ROMS, which leads me into rediscovering apt-cdrom and various stuff. Guess what? net-tools didn't exist in Potato. OK, then I'll install iproute from Potato and use the above workaround. After some futzing that's accomplished, but when I do the first ip addr add, I learn that: "Cannot open netlink socket: Address family not supported by protocol". Needless to say, the route add doesn't work either. OK, says I, I'll just copy the good old version 1.57 net-tools .deb over by sneakernet. Hmmm, I've been messing with Linux since RedHat 5.1 and Debian for over a year now, and I've never used a floppy except for boot and rescue discs. So I pull down "Learning Debian GNU/Linux" and read up on using floppies. I'm startled to discover that boot discs are formatted msdos, but, sure, now that I know it that makes sense. So I mount an old RedHat boot disc, delete all the files on it and copy over the .deb. When I cd /floppy and ls, I see that the filename is truncated, mutter under my breath, but oh well, I'll copy it to my laptop harddrive and rename it, so who cares? So I carry the floppy over to the laptop, do mount -t /dev/fd0 /floppy and am greeted with: mount: fs type msdos not supported by kernel Oh f**k, I remember that when I compiled my kernel, I said to myself "Why on earth would I want msdos support on this laptop? Not only, NO, but Hell NO!" OK, so I'll format the floppy ext2. The book says to fdformat /dev/fd0H1440 but my system informs me that fdformat is obsolete and no longer available and that I should use superformat instead. The man page for superformat implies that I am going to get an msdos filesystem on the floppy whether I want it or not. So, "apropos floppy", et voila kfloppy. And sure enough kfloppy is a nice, straightforward little program that formats floppy discs and makes ext2 one of the options. I format the disc and copy the net-tools .deb and check it with an ls -al and a df and all is good. I pop it out, take it to the laptop, mount it, cd /floppy and ls. Hmmm, the only thing there is lost and found. WTF? OK, back to the workstation. When I put the diskette in, it immediately starts bitching at me, and I now remember that one must dismount a floppy before one removes it. So I format it again with kfloppy, cp the .deb, umount /floppy, and then pop it out. Back to the laptop, mount it, cp the .deb, dpkg --install the good net-tools package, ifup eth0, and I'm sending this to you from the laptop. Well, I thought it was funny...
Re: dictonary
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 01:31:50PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 07:52:23PM +0100, Hans wrote: > > Is there any front-end GUI available for dict, or ways to access it via a > > browser? --hans > > gdict comes standard with GNOME. And although this will become obvious in mere moments, gdict is an applet that wants to sit in your panel. You can add it by right-clicking anywhere on the panel and navigating to it under applets/utilities. If you are always-connected or set up a dictionary server, it is way cool.
Re: Net-tools followup
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 01:38:32PM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 08:25:40PM -0800, Michael Epting wrote: > > This was hilarious. I had shut down my laptop this morning after reading, > > but not entirely absorbing, the above. > > Thanks for sharing that with us :) > > BTW: the Problem is upstream and fixed in 1.59. I have uploaded 1.58-2 which > will fix that, too. Don't know why it is not installed yet. > > Sorry for that, didn't noticed it since it works on some systems, for > example ipv6 using stations. Thanks for maintaining this package for us, Bernd. If I wanted only thoroughly tested packages, I wouldn't be running Unstable, so I don't mind having a little adventure now and then.
Re: more info on "Important Package Not Found In Sid!?!"
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 03:00:12PM -0800, David Frey wrote: > I have another thing to add. Take a look at this: > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/gnome-core.html > > Notice how it says that gnome core depends on libgnomeui33, > but that it isn't available. What can I do? Do I just have > to wait until That package gets added? It seems to be there now, but don't forget you can always download and install packages from Testing or Stable also. You can either temporarily modify your sources.list or you can download with your favorite download tool and then use dpkg --install packagename
Tasklist broken in gnome-panel_1.3.1-1
After today's upgrade, the Gnome Tasklist no longer works (segfault when you try to add it to the panel). The reason is fairly obvious, it seems: tasklist-applet is no longer present in the gnome-panel deb. If you check the buglist this morning, you will see that the maintainer is asking for all kinds of data from the bug reporter. Does anybody know what's up with this?
Re: Tasklist broken in gnome-panel_1.3.1-1
FYI, I received this from the gnome-panel maintainer: ME> Has perhaps tasklist_applet moved to another package ... Yes and no, now the tasklist applet isn't a binary but a library/plug-in file. To solve the problem quickly, install the libpanel-applet-dev package. This is fixed inthe -2 release.
Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:22:37PM -0800, brian moore wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:17:06PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Does mutt have any address book support? Autocompletion would be really > > yes. either the internal one, or using an external database. Believing this to be true, I installed the abook package a while back. However, I have been unable to locate a shred of documentation on how mutt and abook work together. Any hints on where to look?
Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:21:32PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote: > > abook package where? In unstable, at least, it's in main/Mail. Just apt-get install abook. I took my Outlook Express (sorry!) address book and pulled it into (Windows) Netscape 4.76, then copied it over here to Debian. I think there I had to do another conversion step using linux Netscape (this was a while ago) to convert it to the right kind of Netscape address book, and then abook did the conversion to use with Mutt. Another poster in this thread just told you and me how to sort of use it with Mutt, but honestly if I have to type the entire correct name of the addressee, that's completely missing the point of having an address book. I was hoping I would get something I could browse.
Re: kde2 problem
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:26:07AM -0400, Andy Bastien wrote: > I've installed KDE2 from Debian's servers, but I haven't had much luck > getting it running. What happens, basically, is kicker dies with a > signal 11 almost as soon as it starts up (the status indicator is on > "Restoring session"). What I do get is a placid blue screen with a > couple of icons on it. It looks to me like I'm missing a library, but I > have no unresolved dependencies. I've included what seems to be the > relevant X output. Does anybody have any ideas? I have the same problem. KDE2 is apparently broken just now -- it has worked in the recent past. History suggests that there will be new .debs today or tomorrow which will be broken in different ways. KDE2 is still evolving -- I suggest you either use KDE, if you really need it to work, or just do apt-get update/upgrade every day if you want to status KDE2.
Re: kde2 problem
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:26:07AM -0400, Andy Bastien wrote: > I've installed KDE2 from Debian's servers, but I haven't had much luck > getting it running. What happens, basically, is kicker dies with a > signal 11 almost as soon as it starts up (the status indicator is on > "Restoring session"). What I do get is a placid blue screen with a > couple of icons on it. It looks to me like I'm missing a library, but I > have no unresolved dependencies. I've included what seems to be the > relevant X output. Does anybody have any ideas? Sorry to reply twice. I had apt-get updated earlier this morning. There are a bunch of new .debs since then, so you might want to give them a shot right now.
Can apt be steered?
apt-get upgrade broke my Gnome this weekend. Looking in my apt/archives, I see that I have a gnome-bin (and maybe some other Gnome-related packages) that is not from Helix and I suspect that is the source of my problem. So, does anybody know a way to steer apt preferentially. That is, how can I ensure that .debs from debian/woody/main don't replace the ones from Helix that are presumably "integrated" to work together? I suspect there is no easy way to accomplish this, short of individually putting packages on hold and commenting out lines in sources.list, but I hope I'm wrong. Is there even a way to see where potential upgrades, will come from? I normally apt-get -s upgrade to see what is going to happen before I upgrade, but this doesn't even show the new package version numbers, much less where they are coming from.
Re: Can apt be steered?
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 05:53:04PM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: > If the package doesn't say "Helix", purge it. You don't > need any non-helix gnome packages to have a working gnome > distribution. > > > > apt-get upgrade broke my Gnome this weekend. Looking in my apt/archives, I > > see that I have a gnome-bin (and maybe some other Gnome-related packages) > > that is not from Helix and I suspect that is the source of my problem. So, > > does anybody know a way to steer apt preferentially. That is, how can I > > ensure that .debs from debian/woody/main don't replace the ones from Helix > > that are presumably "integrated" to work together? The problem is with packages such as gnome-bin_1.2.4-helix4_i386.deb, which is from helixcode and gnome-bin_1.2.5-1_i386.deb, which is from Debian woody. On Sunday, the latter replaced the former, which seems reasonable to apt-get because it has a higher version number, but it (or some other conflicting gnome package) caused gmc to cease working. Shortly after I posted my original question, Helix updated that particular package to 1.2.5-helix1, which apt-get nicely installed for me. So maybe the only answer to my question is "be patient, Helix will normally have a higher version than Debian woody for any given gnome package". As an aside, it seems that today's Helix Gnome for Debian is still a little broken, though. I can't choose a window manager with Gnome Control Panel, because wm-properties-capplet segfaults.
Re: Can apt be steered?
Here I go replying to myself again. I noticed just now that the same sort of problem happens if your sources.list contains kde.tdyc.com stuff. That is, we get kde2 package combinations that don't work. I'm beginning to think there is a serious fundamental problem with apt... The one useful suggestion I got was to download packages first, examine them, and then decide whether or not to install them. Very messy and time-consuming. For the moment, I'm thinking I will just keep commenting out various parts of my sources.list. If Gnome needs upgrading, then us.debian.org must be deleted (commented out). If kde2 needs upgrading, I think I might stick with debian and comment out tdyc, but maybe vice versa On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 11:24:46AM -0700, Michael Epting wrote: > apt-get upgrade broke my Gnome this weekend. Looking in my apt/archives, I > see that I have a gnome-bin (and maybe some other Gnome-related packages) > that is not from Helix and I suspect that is the source of my problem. So, > does anybody know a way to steer apt preferentially. That is, how can I > ensure that .debs from debian/woody/main don't replace the ones from Helix > that are presumably "integrated" to work together? > > I suspect there is no easy way to accomplish this, short of individually > putting packages on hold and commenting out lines in sources.list, but I > hope I'm wrong. > > Is there even a way to see where potential upgrades, will come from? I > normally apt-get -s upgrade to see what is going to happen before I > upgrade, but this doesn't even show the new package version numbers, much > less where they are coming from.
Re: Can apt be steered?
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 10:01:29PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 08:19:49PM -0700, Michael Epting wrote: > > > is, we get kde2 package combinations that don't work. I'm beginning to > > think there is a serious fundamental problem with apt... > > Not really. If the packages don't work together then the packages > should have dependancies saying that. It might be desirable to have > facilities to work around buggy packages like that, but in general > the current behaviour (believe the information provided by the > packages) is perfectly sensible. The problem is that apt-get offers no means of choosing a site source on a per-package basis. That is, I want to offer preferential treatment to Helix for Gnome stuff and maybe to tydc for KDE2 stuff (or maybe to debian.org -- my current workaround is to comment out the tydc lines in my sources.list and KDE2 is working much better just now). So far, I have been unable to find a way to figure out in advance what package versions apt is going to install, much less which site they are going to come from.
Re: My emails are vanishing...
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 08:41:25PM -0200, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > Are you using exim? It has a limit on the maximum number of messages > per smtp connection. > > Check your /etc/exim.conf file for a line like > > smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 100 Make the value 0 for unlimited messages. Very important for subscribers of this list!
Re: Can apt be steered?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 03:55:41PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > apt should install the package with the highest version number it can find. > You can watch what it's getting while it's downloading (or use > --dummy-run to do a dummy run). I didn't know about --dummy-run. I just searched man apt-get and man dpkg and neither contains the word 'dummy'. I'll give that a shot. I agree that the source of the problem is with the alternate packagers, Helix and tdyc. They could very easily fix the problem by changing the names of their packages, possibly by making helix/tdyc part of the package names (rather than, in Helix's case, part of the package version). However, the rest of us cannot control their activities, nor those of debian.org.
Re: Can apt be steered?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 07:36:57PM +0200, Andre Berger wrote: > Michael Epting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 03:55:41PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > > apt should install the package with the highest version number it can > > > find. > > > You can watch what it's getting while it's downloading (or use > > > --dummy-run to do a dummy run). > > > > I didn't know about --dummy-run. I just searched man apt-get and man dpkg > > and neither contains the word 'dummy'. I'll give that a shot. > > It's -s, or --dry-run (man apt-get) I use -s all the time. I doesn't show version information or where the file is coming from. So it doesn't help with helix or tdyc 'conflicts'.
Re: Help! I upgraded ssh, it doesn't work, I want to go back to an earlier version.
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:42:55PM -0700, Eric Hanchrow wrote: > > Foolish me: I'd been happily running ssh 1:2.2.0p1 on my Potato > system, and then I upgraded to ssh 1:2.2.0p1-1.1. (I got both of > those versions from "unstable".) Well, that newer version doesn't > work on potato, because it requires a newer libc. I don't care to > upgrade libc, and ssh is now brokenly installed, and will not start. > What's the simplest way for me to get a working ssh 2.2.0 server > again? Why not dpkg --purge ssh then look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ for the older .deb then dpkg --install olddebfile.deb
Re: how to test hardware acceleration / GL / utahglx?
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 03:39:01AM -0800, Krzys Majewski wrote: > Finally, I've got some utahglx debs installed, how do I test whether > the hardware acceleration is working? If you are running Gnome, select the Atlantis screensaver in GnomeCC. Then press the lock button on your panel. If the sharks are swimming thru gravy, you don't have hardware acceleration. If they shoot past, you do. There are several other GL screensavers in Helix Gnome and also in KDE2, I believe. The difference between hardware and software rendering is huge.
KDE2/Gnome GL differences
I've been trying to solve my problem of unusable virtual consoles (the F1 through F6 ones) in XF 4.01 for weeks now. At one point I decided that it was a chipset problem, but I have since swapped motherboards and the problem was unchanged. I'm a Gnome user, but I've also been trying out the KDE2 debs and yesterday I noticed that the consoles work OK in KDE2 but are still broken in Gnome. I copied some XFree86.0.log files and diff'ed them, finding no significant differences. Then I saved the output of xdpyinfo in KDE2 and in Gnome and got this difference: < focus: window 0x1e9, revert to PointerRoot --- > focus: window 0x140001b, revert to Parent 66,70c66,70 < current input event mask:0xf84033 < KeyPressMask KeyReleaseMask EnterWindowMask < LeaveWindowMask KeymapStateMask SubstructureNotifyMask < SubstructureRedirectMask FocusChangeMask PropertyChangeMask < ColormapChangeMask --- > current input event mask:0x5a20bd > KeyPressMask ButtonPressMask ButtonReleaseMask > EnterWindowMask LeaveWindowMask PointerMotionHintMask > ButtonMotionMask StructureNotifyMask SubstructureNotifyMask > SubstructureRedirectMask PropertyChangeMask One other symptom: tuxracer works great in KDE2, but in Gnome, the keyboard controls don't work, although the mouse does. So, I'm suspecting that the problem is the focus difference. Does anybody know how to set this in Gnome? The sawfish focus dialog in the Gnome Control Center doesn't seem to change it.
Re: Helix-Gnome not installable
Since the problem is a conflict between Helix and Debian versions of some libraries, perhaps you can temporarily comment out the Debian lines in your sources.list, do an apt-get update and then try apt-get install task-helix-gnome. Don´t forget to fix your sources.list afterwards or you won´t be able to keep your Woody current on an hourly basis! Also, you might need to avoid installing the Debian versions afterwards, just by being careful with apt-get upgrade. Another possibility, which I normally use, is to just wait for the Helix guys to catch up. (and they used to say that Debian was slow to provide current versions of packages). On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:55:07PM -0500, Joel Dinel wrote: > I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box. > > dimmu:~# apt-get install task-helix-gnome > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > ...
Re: Helix-Gnome not installable
Sometime this morning, Helix made new packages available. I´ll bet it all works OK now, so ignore my earlier post. On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 09:55:07PM -0500, Joel Dinel wrote: > I can't seem to install Helix Gnome on my woody box. > > dimmu:~# apt-get install task-helix-gnome > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming.
Re: Dependency problems
I "fixed" this problem by doing: apt-get install libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data The trick is to have both packages in the same install command. On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:47:41PM -0500, Casey Henderson wrote: > Hi all, > I'm having a problem upgrading a couple packages on my system. I am > trying to do a dist-upgrade to my Debian box (running woody). The > packages in question are > > libgnomeprint-bin_0.25-0.1_i386.deb > libgnomeprint-data_0.25-0.1_all.deb
Re: subnets & 2 NICS in a mashine
This advice applies to /etc/host.conf, not resolve.conf. On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 08:42:34AM -0600, Robert Guthrie wrote: > ... Something else to > look at first is your /etc/resolve.conf*. It should contain a line like > "order hosts,bind", which tells it to look first in /etc/hosts, and then go > to Bind for domain name resolution.
Re: Creative Soundblaster PCI238 and kernel
In 2.4.0-test10, it´s Creative Ensoniq AudiioPCI 97 (ES1371). I have heard that some older PCI128´s might be ES1370, which is also available. If you check the archives, you will find several people saying that you need the ALSA drivers to make this card work. I can verify that it works with ALSA, but I recently made a second stab and now have it going with just the kernel modules. The trick is to have only this line in /etc/modutils/audio: alias sound-slot-0 es1371 When I was using ALSA I had problems with the sound breaking up when the CPU got busy (a 900 MHz Thunderbird, yet!), but no such problem now. On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:21:03PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > I have Creative Soundblaster Audio PCI238 sound card. > > I can't see this in the menu for the current kernel. > > Amyone know which entry to use?
Re: PS Help ISP/Fetchmail
> > > yes. ("man fetchmail" could explain it better).
> > Yes, I add it to the command line. Any way to log that? And see it, so
> > not just "fetchmail >Log"?
> Not sure, but I would say "fetchmail -vv 2>&1 | tee Log"
>From 'man fetchmail':
The -L or --logfile option (keyword:
set logfile) allows you to redirect status messages emit-
ted while detached into a specified logfile (follow the
option with the logfile name). The logfile is opened for
append, so previous messages aren't deleted. This is pri-
marily useful for debugging configurations.
apt-get hold?
I'm running Woody, which is my first foray into really unstable territory, because, frankly, Potato has been very solid. Now and then we get an unusable package into Woody, but since I keep the old .debs for a while, it's no big deal to reinstall the old working one. However, the next time I do an apt-get upgrade, the new "bad" .deb gets reinstalled. I have a similar problem with the current Woody kernel-image trying to replace my custom kernel-image .deb (and I have tried all sorts of ways to use the -rev argument of make-kpkg to give it a name that looks like a later rev, unsuccessfully). The apt-get manpage refers to a "hold" attribute, which I suspect is the way out of this mess, but how do I apply that attribute to a package that I want to not be replaced? I've messed about a bit with dselect, but that is one non-intuitive app to use, and I'm not sure that will do it anyway. (Yes, I have read the man-pages and docs, but I probably have missed something).
Re: apt-get hold?
OK, I got it now, I think. The argument for dhold or for dpkg --set-selections hold 'filename' does not include the version number for the .deb. For example: dhold pysol does the job. Thanks again for your help.
debian kernel: sr0: CDROM (ioctl) reports ILLEGAL REQUEST.
Since I started using the release 2.4.0 kernel I am finding billions of the above error messages on the console from which X is started and in the syslog and kern.log. This happens whenever an app, such as Gnome CD player or Musicmatch Jukebox accesses an audio CD. Everything seems to work OK, but my logs grow alarmingly. I switched back to 2.4.0-test12 and the problem goes away. I diff'ed the .config files and see nothing related to CD-ROM or SCSI. I'm running up to date Sid and have an Initio SCSI card and Toshiba SCSI CD-ROM (and Yamaha SCSI CDRW, seemingly uninvolved with this). Anybody else see this problem?
Re: PCMCIA modules and kernel 2.2.18
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 07:52:18PM +, Pollywog wrote: > > Is there a problem with the PCMCIA modules in kernel 2.2.18? > I can build the modules for kernel 2.2.16 but not 2.2.18 and I have > tried both several times. I just did this yesterday, on a "new" Tosiba Tecra 550CDT laptop. It's running Woody (Testing). I did it the Debian Way (after apt-getting and unzipping the source and pcmcia-modules packages): make xconfig make-kpkg clean make-kpkg --revision=tecra.1 kernel_image make-kpkg modules-image dpkg -i kernel-image kernel-image-2.2.18_tecra.1_i386.deb It went without a glitch.
Re: True Type fonts
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 01:47:36AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: > not sure where it's documented, probably in X docs. you basically need > to do what you wrote - put the *.ttf files into some directory and add > that directory to FontPath (in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, search for > FontPath, add a line for truetype fonts), also run mkttfdir or ttmkfdir > (one is in debian, the other one might be better, as some poster > suggested recently) and that's it. This thread has gone on quite a while and there has been some misinformation, but the above seems dead on. I'd would add that the font file names must be lower case for mkttfdir (the one in Debian's fttools) to work properly. Also, if you do just this, Netscape 4.76 will be able to use your new Truetype fonts -- it is not necessary to run a font server as has been suggested in this thread. (This is all with Debian Unstable).
Re: True Type fonts
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 06:14:00AM -0800, Xucaen wrote: > > what of debian 2.2r2, and Xfree 3.3.6? The answer to this question is in the excellent TrueType Fonts in Debian mini-HOWTO, which is very likely on your system in /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/TT-Debian.html or, if you love to click, try (in Gnome, anyway): Foot->Debian Menus->Help->Debian Online Help and then click HOWTO -> Mini (way down at the bottom) -> TT-Debian. This all assumes that you have installed doc-linux-html. If you haven't, you should, ASAP.
Re: xcdroast in sid/unstable not installable?
> > On Tuesday, 3. July 2001 02:12, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > Something else is at work here. Did you, perhaps, forget to update > > > before trying to install xcdroast, and remembered to do that when you > > > used dselect? What happened, of course, is that a new version of xcdroast became available while the original poster was screwing around with dselect. That's one clear advantage dselect has over apt-get -- while you are trying to figure out what is telling you, the Debian maintainers are fixing the real problem for you. (I'm trying to be funny).
Re: Digital camera and Linux
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 02:06:06PM +0400, Ilya Martynov wrote: > Or any advice on another relatively cheap and good digital camera > which can be used with Linux? Check out www.gphoto.org. There is a compatibility list there. gphoto is packaged for Debian but supports very few current models. gphoto2 is under development and supports many more cameras. I bought a Canon Powershot A20 which is not specifically supported, but a simple patch to gphoto2 did the trick and I can now move pictures to and from my camera from my Debian machines. This is especially useful on my laptop so that I now have capacious storage for pictures when I'm on the road. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Digital camera and Linux
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 11:27:33AM -0400, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > I stayed away from usb at the time I bought my camera because I did not > consider usb support in Linux to be stable/mature enough. If I were > buying a camera today, however, I would look seriously at trying to put > together a gphoto + usb solution under kernel 2.4.x. Firewire, if it > could be made to work for this, would be even cooler. Compiling USB support was straightforward for both my desktop and laptop (an old Toshiba Tecra 550CDT -- I was worried that its USB would be too old). I used the Debian 2.4.5 package and kernel-package, of course. My Canon with gphoto2 transfers 1600x1200 fine (less jpeg compression) pictures at about 3 seconds per picture in a single operation. I cannot imagine using floppy disks or a serial port. USB seems fast enough. The extra expense of firewire doesn't seem justified for still pictures. And, by the way, while Windows ME has built-in automatic support for my camera, gqview is a far superior way to sort through pictures quickly than anything I have in Windows (although I admit to not doing an exhaustive search, since I don't really care). The bad news is that I have an Epson Photo Stylus 870 that prints on 4 inch roll paper but is not yet supported in Linux. The good news is that I mixed some digital camera/Epson 870 prints in with some 45 millimeter prints from Kodak and none of my friends could figure out which were which. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problem with fetchmail (was: I can't start with mutt) solved !
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 07:41:54PM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote: > "Krzysztof Mazurczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There is a task. Boil water for tee having: a cattle, faucet with > > water, matches and gas cooker. The answer: turn on faucet, fill the > > cattle with water, turn the gas on, wait for boil. The question is: > > How will boil water an IT engineer having as in the task but the > > cattle is already full of water. Of cause he/she'll pour out water > > from the cattle. Then the task is reduced to the previous one. > > Check out the two words "kettle" and "cattle" - filling cattle with > water is probably not such a good idea, but pouring it out is even > more challenging! I just did a Google on cattle and kettle. Who would have thought there would be so many hits? However, even more shocking is that there is one that is absolutely on-topic: http://www.angielski.edu.pl/angielski/content.php3?name=tnv_1 -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux in the workplace: NT Domains [Konqueror]
On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 08:42:01PM +0200, William Leese wrote: > Surely, there is someone out there using Konqueror to browse shares in their > network? > > There is a tab in Kcontrol where you can fill in a login, a password and a > workgroup to use for SAMBA shares, no mention of domain though. Well, yes, I have experimented with Konqueror as a samba browser, but I haven't had my socks knocked off. Once you get klisa configured, you can click the Network icon in the sidebar and it will in fact give you a file manager that treats your samba shares as if they were mounted. However, I far prefer actually mounting the shares -- xSMBrowser is a handy tool for doing this -- and then using the file manager of my own choice to work them. Using klisa and konqueror, I was not able to see a way to make the shared directories visible to, for example, xmms. If you can't do that, what's the point? And besides, emelfm is far better for moving files around. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: pcmcia
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 08:18:40PM +, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:26:36AM -0800, Vaughan, Curtis wrote: > > Here's what I get: > > Starting PCMCIA services: modulesinsmod: a module named pcmcia_core already > > exists > > insmod:/lib/modules/2.2.17/pcmcia/yenta_socket.o: No such file or directory > > I thought that yenta_socket was only for kernel 2.4 and above!? > > PCMCIA=yes > if [ $(kernelversion) \> 2.2 ] > then > PCIC=yenta_socket > else > PCIC=i82365 > fi > PCIC_OPTS= > CORE_OPTS= > CARDMGR_OPTS= Well, I'm running an older 2.4 kernel on my ancient Toshiba laptop and I needed to change /etc/default/pcmcia from yenta_socket to i82365. Everything is back to fine now. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Diagnosing poor performance
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:30:53PM +, Patrick Kirk wrote: > Tried mc. I don't like it. Konqueror is a great file manager. GMC is > OK but it keeps asking how to open text files which seems an odd thing > to need to configure. Are there other light file managers? I love emelfm. It does everything a file manager needs to do and it is fast and intuitive. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What's happening to the Progeny installer?
It's there (in unstable). See autoinstall. (I haven't tried it and honestly wouldn't know how to begin). On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 12:22:11PM +1000, Mike Williams wrote: > > My understanding is that Progeny (the company) is still alive, and that > they wish to migrate back towards a standard Debian distro. Anyone know if > there are plans to integrate the Progeny installer into Debian-proper? -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: internal debugger in kdevelop
On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 05:58:53PM +0100, Laurent Hausermann wrote: > Oups, I didn't say it : >I have gdb install , ddd is running well but not kdevelop internal debugger I can tell you only that the internal debugger works for me. I have only tried very simple, console-based C++ projects so far. There are some issues, though. It seems to lose the ability to display local variable values after it steps into a function and returns, which is fairly tragic. Kdevelop also lets you use kdbg, which is a more complete wrapper around gdb. All you need to do is click Options/KDevelop Setup/Debugger/Use external debugger. It takes a bit longer to start up (again, I have tested only very simple projects), but it seems to work a bit nicer. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scripting problem "syntax error in expression (error token is "0 0 - + 95 ")"
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 04:11:18AM +0200, Erik Ljungstr?m wrote: > Just curious, how can you script bash from windows? Or do you reboot > and send you emails from Microsoft outlook express just for fun? I can't answer the original question, but the answer to this question is "cygwin". It gives one a decent Unix environment while stuck in Windows. -- Michael Epting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple MTA?
> > > On 17:41 Mon 24 Oct , Teemu Ikonen wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm looking for a mail transfer agent for a typical workstation, > > > > laptop or simple server configuration, but so far I haven't found a > > > > suitable one either in Debian or elsewhere. The ones I've checked are > > > > either too simple (nullmailer, ssmtp) or too complex (exim and > > > > everything else). I don't have an answer, but I'll chime in that I spent 8 hours Saturday trying to configure exim4 (I had been using exim3 successfully, but wanted to add spamassassin and get up to date). I ultimately failed because it simply would not authenticate with my isp's (SBC Yahoo DSL) smtp server. I installed esmtp and had everything working in less than 30 minutes. exim4 is obviously working for many, maybe most, people, but its documentation is forboding and yet seems to be missing some information. I ended up disgusted with both myself and the tool. And Google failed me, too. -- Michael Epting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
