OT: Looking for 10/100 ISA NIC's for Linux project

2001-08-23 Thread John Purser
Hello,

I'm looking for a source for nearly 100 10/100 ISA Ethernet cards for a
linux network I'm helping with at a local Charter School.  I've found some
for around $70 but was hoping to cut that price in half if I could.  Anybody
got some leads or recommend a particular card to buy and/or stay away from?

Thanks,

John Purser



Where's Woody?

2001-08-24 Thread John Purser
I was trying to download the Woody CD images and can't find them.  I saw on
a post a few minutes ago that there might not be such a thing and that I'll
have to upgrade Potato to get there from here.  Good enough but would
someone please point me to a decent "How To" to get me started?  I'll write
back when I've hosed it completely and need further help.

Thanks,

John Purser



.raw woody images to .iso

2001-08-27 Thread John Purser
All the Woody CD images I've found have been in .raw format.  I'm unfamiliar
with this format and have been looking for .iso files.  Is there a process
for converting between the two on a MS box?  My CD burner doesn't become
Linux until I download these disks.

Thanks,

John Purser



RE: simple database recommendations?

2001-08-27 Thread John Purser
Doesn't Star Office come with a Database?  I've never used it but you might
want to start looking there.

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Hallaran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 14:14
To: joe golden
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: simple database recommendations?


I hate to say it but for what you are trying to do, I recommend Filemaker
Pro. If running it on linux is important , don't despair, FM Pro is
available for redhat(might be able to get it to work on debian even..).
I know that referring to such non free software will make me anathema on
this list but such is life.
If some linux person is going to be maintaining / using the database then
by all means use something else but if ease of use is a high priority I
would go with filemaker.


On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, joe golden wrote:

> I am looking for a simple database program for our small school.  We need
to
> maintain address lists and print them on labels.  A graphical interface is
a
> must.  Something like a simple version of access would be good.  I am
> looking at freecdb, exdbm, mysql and db2 or db3.  Simple and low overhead
is
> good.
>
> Many Thanks.
>
> Joe Golden
> The Stevens School of Peacham
> thestevensschoolofpeacham.com
>
>
> _
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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X-Clients for Windows

2001-08-28 Thread John Purser
Hello,

I'm looking for a good how-to on for using a windows box (ME) as a client
for a Linux X-server.  Has anyone got a good link or a recommended product?

Thanks,

John Purser



Partitioning Advice

2001-08-29 Thread John Purser
I'm installing Debian Woody as the only OS on an IBM PC with a 20 gig hard
drive, 192 megs of ram, and two Ethernet cards.  This machine will be my
network gateway and provide DNS, DHCP, Web, and database service for my
small network.  Not a lot of users and not a lot of data.  I'm a programmer
who just wants a test network to play with. The partition scheme I'm
considering is:
/   243 Megs
/boot   60  Megs
/home   1 Gig
/usr16 Gigs
/var1 Gig
/tmp1 Gig
/swap 500 Megs

Given the resources and purpose of this machine can anyone see anything
wrong with this?  I haven't found a lot of hard do's and don'ts when it
comes to partitioning so I copied this from a machine that has Red Hat
installed and then added the /tmp partition and bumped the /var to handle
large logs.  Then I cut the /home down drastically and dumped the rest into
/usr.

Suggestions?  Comments? Raucous laughter at my expense?

Thanks,

John Purser

P.S. Another MS server bites the dust!



RE: Partitioning Advice - Thanks to all

2001-08-29 Thread John Purser
Thanks to all who responded.  Looks like I'll be repeatedly installing so
your advice will not go to waste.

John Purser


-Original Message-
From: Craig Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 16:02
To: 'Debian users list'
Subject: Re: Partitioning Advice


Cliff Sarginson wrote:

> > /tmp1 Gig
> Too big 250MB

Don't some programs use /tmp to store in-progress downloads, and thus
would have problems if /tmp weren't big enough? Say, for example, I was
downloading a 600MB ISO image. Wouldn't /tmp have to be at least that
big for the download to succeed? I remember having problems with this on
a Red Hat 6.2 system where /tmp was only 100 MB. I suppose one could
avoid this by setting TMPDIR or whatever environment variable where the
downloader expects to find a temporary pathname.

Craig


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RE: Looking for a ProComm replacement - Interesting Development

2001-11-19 Thread John Purser
Hello,



I just found an interesting link to a page where the author not only shows
how to run an old version of ProComm for Dos under Linux dosmenu but he has
made the correct patched version of ProComm available for download.  I got a
few responses to my post so I thought I'd feed this information back to the
group.

http://solarflow.dyndns.org/pcplus/

John Purser


On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, John Purser wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Hope this isn't too far off track.
>
> I'm looking for a good ProComm replacement.  Necessary features would
> include:
>   Wyse50 terminal emulation
>   Decent scripting language including opening, reading, writing files
>   Script Writer/Recorder to record a session
>
> I've looked at minicom and what little documentation I can find doesn't
> mention Wyse50 and I can't find any documentation for it's scripting
> language.
>
> This program could run on either Linux or Windows.
>
> I'm doing a favor for a friend and used to use ProComm to enter massive
> amounts of data into a Point of Sale system but my version of ProComm is
> Windows 95 only believe it or not.  Don't want to spend money unless I
have
> to but if I do have to I want to know what other people are using out
there.
>
> Thanks and apologies again for being off track for this list.

PowerTerm might do all this (Windows only):

http://www.unipress.com/pt/

...RickM...


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RE: Looking for a ProComm replacement - Interesting Development

2001-11-19 Thread John Purser
That was of course dosemu.

-Original Message-
From: John Purser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 05:44
To: 'Debian-User (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: Looking for a ProComm replacement - Interesting Development


Hello,



I just found an interesting link to a page where the author not only shows
how to run an old version of ProComm for Dos under Linux dosmenu but he has
made the correct patched version of ProComm available for download.  I got a
few responses to my post so I thought I'd feed this information back to the
group.

http://solarflow.dyndns.org/pcplus/

John Purser


On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, John Purser wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Hope this isn't too far off track.
>
> I'm looking for a good ProComm replacement.  Necessary features would
> include:
>   Wyse50 terminal emulation
>   Decent scripting language including opening, reading, writing files
>   Script Writer/Recorder to record a session
>
> I've looked at minicom and what little documentation I can find doesn't
> mention Wyse50 and I can't find any documentation for it's scripting
> language.
>
> This program could run on either Linux or Windows.
>
> I'm doing a favor for a friend and used to use ProComm to enter massive
> amounts of data into a Point of Sale system but my version of ProComm is
> Windows 95 only believe it or not.  Don't want to spend money unless I
have
> to but if I do have to I want to know what other people are using out
there.
>
> Thanks and apologies again for being off track for this list.

PowerTerm might do all this (Windows only):

http://www.unipress.com/pt/

...RickM...


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RE: alternatives to minicom in debian stable or testing?

2001-11-27 Thread John Purser
Nate,

Here's a page I stumbled across a week or so ago.  It has instructions for
running ProComm (Dos version) on Linux under dosemu.  You can download
ProComm 2.01 from the site.  I haven't used this myself but it might be what
you're looking for.  One real strength of ProComm is the Aspect scripting
language.

Hope this helps,

John Purser

http://solarflow.dyndns.org/pcplus/

-Original Message-
From: nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:56
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: alternatives to minicom in debian stable or testing?


i was wondering if anyone knew of good alternatives to
minicom that are available in testing or woody(or i suppose
3rd party). looking for something with better ANSI support
and needs to support serial connections. don't need modem
support(though with serial i suppose its standard). mainly
for null modem connections to various different devices.
also just wanted a term package that was more geared towards
serial connections(to servers, routers etc). minicom is
so modem-oriented.

from what ive seen theres suprisingly few terminal apps
that support serial port connections from what ive seen.
even looking at freshmeat doesnt come up with much.

nate




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First time Custom Kernel help - No suck file of directory

2001-10-13 Thread John Purser
Good Morning,

I've been down with a cold, up with antihistamines, and whacked out on cough
syrup for a few days so I figured I'd build my first custom kernel.
Strangely enough I find I need some help.

A little history:
I'm running woody and a 2.4.9 kernel that I installed from
kernel-image-2.4.9-686.
Then I pulled the source .deb, unzipped it in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.9.
I made a symbolic link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.9.
As root I cd'd to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.9 and ran make config and
discovered I didn't have make installed.
Installed make and ran make config again.
Finishing make config gives you the message to run make dep.
I ran make dep and discovered I didn't have gcc installed.
I installed gcc.
Now when I run make dep I get a substantial number of "No such file or
directory" errors in this format:
scripts/mkdep.c:33: ctype.h: No such file or directory
These error messages are all related to include lines in the script and I've
found the *.h files but obviously they're not where the program is expecting
them.
Then the process errors out with this message:
make: *** [scripts/mkdep] Error 1

1. Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong and how I go about fixing it?  In
my fumblings I've run apt-get dist-upgrade and checked that I have the
correct versions of the programs from the kernel source documentation.

2. Once upon a time I ran across a tutorial on building a custom Kernel the
debian way but I can no longer find it.  Has anyone seen a good one they
could steer me to?

3. When I read the error messages the voice in my head sounds like Apu from
the Simpsons and this cannot be a good thing oh no!  Please to be telling
where the setting is to change this perhaps to Jessica Rabbit!

Thanks,

John Purser



Is initrd useful/necessary with a custom kernel?

2001-10-14 Thread John Purser
I'm running Woody with a 2.4.10 kernel.  When I first upgraded from 2.2.19
to 2.4.9 I had to add a line to lilo.conf telling where the initrd was in
order to boot.  After reading man initrd and initrd.txt from the kernel
documentation it seemed that the initrd was only useful/necessary for
creating a generic kernel.  In my current kernel ram disk is not enabled.  I
commented out the initrd line in lilo.conf and ran lilo and the system now
boots just fine.

My question is am I missing anything by cutting out the initrd phase of
boot?

Thanks,

John Purser



Providing network services for a laptop. Internet connection, and PPP

2001-10-23 Thread John Purser
Hello,

I'm running Debian Woody with a custom 2.4.10 kernel.  On weekends someone
plugs their laptop running Win2K into my ethernet network.  In order to
allow her to browse the internet I have to reconfigure her (static) IP
settings.  In order to allow her to dial into the company NT server I have
to run a phone line down to her desk in addition to the ethernet cable.
Here's what I'm trying to do.

First I want to configure my Debian machine to answer to the IP addresses of
the DNS servers she uses at work.  I did this on a Red Hat box from
instructions in the Apache manual by O'Reilly but if anyone can steer me to
a HOWTO on this I'd appreciate it.

Second set up DNS (BIND) on the Debian box.  I was planning to do that
anyway just for the experience.  I think I can configure a route to her
company's NT box through a modem connected to the Debian box.  Does this
sound like a good idea and if so can you steer me to some applicable HOWTO's
or other docs that have been helpful to you.

Am I overlooking something?  Is this the best approach to this problem?

Thanks for the help, links, and advice.

John Purser



RE: Propossed Project: Odyssey

2001-10-25 Thread John Purser
FYI there's already an Odyssey project in the windows software world.  It's
a client server point of sale project for a large wholesaler that should be
for sale to the public next year.  Not sure if this matters, just passing
along the flotsam and jetsam.

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Alex de Landgraaf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 17:21
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Propossed Project: Odyssey


First, i would like to thank everyone for their opinions, some are very
interesting. I'll try to cover them all in one post, forgive me if i
don't answer everyone personally :)

Okay, lets tackle the hardest first:
- Why put a lot of effort to start a project from scratch, when that
effort could be used to make Debian better?

Note, i never said that this should be started from scratch. The Debian
we all use would be perfect to start from. But i don't believe that
Debian will be a desktop from a users point of view. I don't know how
Debian 3.0 will look like, installer, default packages, configuration
and general ease-of-use, but now Debian is a perfect system: for a
geek...
Also, Debian focuses on its rock-solid stability and sturdiness. This is
wonderful, but Debian isn't moving very fast, IMHO. There are so many
packages avalible and they all need to work well to be added to the
distribution. Using Woody would (pun intended :) work, but it still is
quite a hassle to set things up "like they should be". My proposal is to
only take those packages that would be needed in an end-user system to
create a more sleek, fine-tuned distribution where the focus lies on
effectiveness towards the end-user.
And effort used in this project wouldn't be effort not waisted on
Debian. Who says ideas could not also be fed back into Debian?

- Why use Debian? (use mandrake!):

Important point, but why isn't mandrake being used by all those users
today? I don't know, but keeping a system up-to-date is sure a lot
easier with Debian. And what will happen to mandrake if the company
cashflow dries up?
I personally havn't tried the latest Mandrake (or the new RedHat, for
that matter). Does anyone have more pro's and con's about these
distro's? Are they an alternative?

- www.boxedpenguin.com:

I like that penguin :)
This is a neat project, i'm aiming for something in that direction, but
instead for users (as apossed to developers/engineers). If my propossed
project is accepted, we could use source/ideas from this project.

- Make the project in public! (No Debian Project):

Maybe. I don't know why we should or shouldn't make it a Debian Project.
Seemed like, as it is built ontop of Debian, it should be, and i
wouldn't like it to be "just" another project in the dark. Maybe it's
just fear of drifting to far :)
How does Debian stand towards its projects? Any first-hand experience
with the difference between a project "here" and "outside"?

- Should users be able to administer their own computers? Most can't
even program a VCR!

Yes. No :)
The problem is that most Operating Systems (and VCR's for that matter ;)
have way to many features. KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid :)
And I wasn't actually talking about NT, more about having being able to
install the system at home. Now that should be simple ;)

- www.libranet.com

Havn't heard from it before, downloading it as i write this. No use in
doing things twice! I'll test it, and maybe put my efforts in it
instead. Depends on how good it is :)

There was also a post about Largo (i read it before, i think, but thanks
anyway). Note that these people mostly have never used that Other OS at
work before. The system they use is also highly customised, and although
it works for them, creating the same system would take quite some work
(not to mention the problems they would have if a key sysadmin would
leave...)

Used by anyone, Installed by anyone, Admined by anyone. Yups, that sums
most of it up. But like i said above, it should be kept simple! Even
though the task of creating and completing such a project is everything
but simple :)

Also, there was a mention about Progeny (and that it is dead :). Thats
what i ment about having a company make distro's (and kewl stuff in
general): it's great while it lasts :)
If libranet isn't what i am aiming for, and if the will to help our poor
users is here, we could learn (plunder?/loot?) Progeny's idea's. It may
be wise to continue where Progeny stumbled.

The idea of update pack's sounds very neat, would solve a large part of
the problem (for both users and the regular Debian-geeks).


Oh well, we'll see how things turn out. Great to see all these
suggestions flying around!

Alex de Landgraaf


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Unable to telnet to localhost

2001-10-25 Thread John Purser
Hello,

I'm running Debian woody with a 2.4.10 custom kernel.

In response to "telnet 127.0.0.1"  I get this error:
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

I can ping 127.0.0.1 but not telnet to it.  I'm guessing telnet connectivity
is turned off by default.  Where do I go to turn it on?  I haven't used
telnet on my network before but it's suggested as a test in a HOW-TO I'm
working through.

Thanks,

John Purser



RE: Unable to telnet to localhost

2001-10-25 Thread John Purser
Many thanks to all who responded.  I've installed ssh and can talk to myself
now.  I've also checked to be sure telnetd was not installed.

Appreciate the prompt accurate help!

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Mark Lanett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:10
To: Debian-User (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Unable to telnet to localhost


Better to leave it off. No reason to install an insecure program just
because of a test. If you want telnet-style functionality, use ssh.

What I do:

apt-get install ssh
# Note: install server as daemon

# disable crap in inetd
apt-get -y remove --purge talkd telnetd fingerd pidentd biff

~mark

> I can ping 127.0.0.1 but not telnet to it.  I'm guessing telnet
connectivity
> is turned off by default.  Where do I go to turn it on?  I haven't used
> telnet on my network before but it's suggested as a test in a HOW-TO I'm
> working through.



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Aliasing a NIC

2001-10-26 Thread John Purser
Hello,

Once upon a time I knew how to make linux use multiple IP addresses for one
ethernet NIC card.  I believe the format looked like "eth0:0" but I can't
remember the rest of it.  Can someone point me to a HOW-TO or man reference?
I did it before on a Red Hat box using linuxconfig but now I'm trying to do
it on a Debian woody box running a 2.4.10 kernel.  I need to know what files
to edit and what the format of the configuration.

Thanks,

John Purser



RE: Aliasing a NIC

2001-10-26 Thread John Purser
Thanks!

I hadn't seen that HOWTO before.  Lots of good stuff on aliasing and
routing.

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Mark Carroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:14
To: Debian-User (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Aliasing a NIC


On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, John Purser wrote:

> Once upon a time I knew how to make linux use multiple IP addresses for
one
> ethernet NIC card.  I believe the format looked like "eth0:0" but I can't
> remember the rest of it.  Can someone point me to a HOW-TO or man
reference?
> I did it before on a Red Hat box using linuxconfig but now I'm trying to
do
> it on a Debian woody box running a 2.4.10 kernel.  I need to know what
files
> to edit and what the format of the configuration.

You probably need IP aliasing support in your kernel, and ifconfig should
do the rest, probably via /etc/network/interfaces or something.
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/IP-Alias/ may yield some helpful clues.

-- Mark


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Installing XFree86

2001-11-03 Thread John Purser
Hello,

I've got a basic Debian Woody installation on a Pentium III 550 with 196
megs of ram.  I'd like to install the X windowing system.  I've looked over
the packages available with names like x-window-system and
x-window-system-core, and xfree86-common and I have no idea where to start.
None of it seems to match the documentation from www.xfree86.org and I
haven't found Debian specific installation/configuration instructions.

Would someone either post a summary of the steps involved or point me to a
HOW-TO that shows how to install this the debian way?

Thanks,

John Purser



Installing GNOME and KDE on Woody

2001-11-03 Thread John Purser
Thanks to Ken Meade I got X installed by running:
apt-get install x-window-system-core xserver-xfree86
and it worked fine.

Now I'd like to install GNOME and KDE but again I see a lot of packages with
nothing to tell me "Install This".

First, can anyone help me get these two installed?

Second, these HAVE to be common tasks but I can't find any documentation on
doing them the Debian way.  Where should I be looking to find out how to do
these simple things?

Thanks,

John Purser



RE: Installing GNOME and KDE on Woody

2001-11-03 Thread John Purser
I avoided tasksel because it failed on install.  I tried it just now and the
error message says:
No Tasks found on this system.
Did you update your available file?

I looked in /var/lib/dpkg/available and it's a huge file with lots of
packages and has a date of today.  I checked the man page for tasksel and
dpkg and didn't see anything about updating available.

Still, I'm just trying to install Gnome and KDE on Woody.

Anybody know how to do this?

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Mark Ferlatte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 13:01
To: Debian-User (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Installing GNOME and KDE on Woody


On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 12:38:19PM -0700, John Purser wrote:
> Second, these HAVE to be common tasks but I can't find any documentation
on
> doing them the Debian way.  Where should I be looking to find out how to
do
> these simple things?

Check out the tasksel command.

M


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RE: Installing XFree86 Solved, On to Gnome

2001-11-03 Thread John Purser
Thanks to Ken Meade I got X installed by running:
apt-get install x-window-system-core xserver-xfree86
and it worked fine.

Still working on Gnome and KDE.  I installed sawfish-gnome but still can't
get gnome to start and don't believe it is installed.  I tried the Debian
instructions on the Gnome faq but they used an outdated apt source and
pointed to the ximan version instead of regular Gnome.  If I wanted a
commercial wrapper around Linux I'd be using Red Hat.

So far the only instructions that look like they might work has been to just
install everything that mentions Gnome in the package list.  Doesn't seem
like the bright way to install something on a server.  There's got to be
some repository of knowledge around here that makes it a little less of a
crap shoot.

Many thanks to all that replied.  Even stuff that didn't work was an
education!

John Purser


-Original Message-
From: Aniartia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 16:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Installing XFree86


On Saturday 03 November 2001 17:24, John Purser wrote:
> Would someone either post a summary of the steps involved or point me to a
> HOW-TO that shows how to install this the debian way?

I got so confused I edited my sources.lst then
# apt-get update
# apt-get upgrade
# apt-get install apt debconf dpkg apt-utils mime-support
# apt-get dist-upgrade
# apt-get install gnome-core galeon everybuddy cvs rsync kde toolame gnucash
xpdf xmms libncurses5 wine

I also apt-get'ed every x package with 4.1.0 in it's version ;) (use the
packages search page)


Ani



RE: Installing XFree86 Solved, On to Gnome - Solved?

2001-11-03 Thread John Purser
Okay, here's what I did.

apt-get install sawfish-gnome
apt-get install gnome-session

edited .xinitrc and added the line:
exec gnome-session

Gnome is running on my Debian box now.

Thanks again to all who helped.

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: John Purser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 17:25
To: 'Aniartia'; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: Installing XFree86 Solved, On to Gnome


Thanks to Ken Meade I got X installed by running:
apt-get install x-window-system-core xserver-xfree86
and it worked fine.

Still working on Gnome and KDE.  I installed sawfish-gnome but still can't
get gnome to start and don't believe it is installed.  I tried the Debian
instructions on the Gnome faq but they used an outdated apt source and
pointed to the ximan version instead of regular Gnome.  If I wanted a
commercial wrapper around Linux I'd be using Red Hat.

So far the only instructions that look like they might work has been to just
install everything that mentions Gnome in the package list.  Doesn't seem
like the bright way to install something on a server.  There's got to be
some repository of knowledge around here that makes it a little less of a
crap shoot.

Many thanks to all that replied.  Even stuff that didn't work was an
education!

John Purser


-Original Message-
From: Aniartia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 16:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Installing XFree86


On Saturday 03 November 2001 17:24, John Purser wrote:
> Would someone either post a summary of the steps involved or point me to a
> HOW-TO that shows how to install this the debian way?

I got so confused I edited my sources.lst then
# apt-get update
# apt-get upgrade
# apt-get install apt debconf dpkg apt-utils mime-support
# apt-get dist-upgrade
# apt-get install gnome-core galeon everybuddy cvs rsync kde toolame gnucash
xpdf xmms libncurses5 wine

I also apt-get'ed every x package with 4.1.0 in it's version ;) (use the
packages search page)


Ani


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RE: BUSINESS PROPOSAL

2001-11-14 Thread John Purser
Sir,

My heart cries out for you in your plight.  I am eager to aid you as best I
can.  Towards that end I have opened up an account at my local bank (routing
number 1234567, Account 098765544321).  If you will wire just 10% of the
$22,000,000 to handle administrative fees, taxes, and licenses I will be
happy to help you get the other 90% out and hold it for you!

You Obedient Servant,

JP

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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 09:15
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: BUSINESS PROPOSAL


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twenty-two million US dollars (US$22,000,000) I have
in my possession now. This money was given to me for
keeps by my father on the eve of his arrest by the
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since the 15th June 2000.

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Looking for a ProComm replacement

2001-11-15 Thread John Purser
Hello,

Hope this isn't too far off track.

I'm looking for a good ProComm replacement.  Necessary features would
include:
Wyse50 terminal emulation
Decent scripting language including opening, reading, writing files
Script Writer/Recorder to record a session

I've looked at minicom and what little documentation I can find doesn't
mention Wyse50 and I can't find any documentation for it's scripting
language.

This program could run on either Linux or Windows.

I'm doing a favor for a friend and used to use ProComm to enter massive
amounts of data into a Point of Sale system but my version of ProComm is
Windows 95 only believe it or not.  Don't want to spend money unless I have
to but if I do have to I want to know what other people are using out there.

Thanks and apologies again for being off track for this list.

John Purser




Installation doesn't find network devices

2001-08-30 Thread John Purser
I'm installing Woody from CD's on an IBM and the installation process keeps
skipping network configuration.  It asks for my host name but that's it.
This machine has two ethernet cards, both plugged into the hub.  They are
Intel 8255x-Based PCI 10/100
Intel Pro/100B PCI

I was sure ONE of them would be spotted.  Both worked under Win2K.  Is this
normal or have I broken something?

John Purser



Installation: tasksel

2001-08-30 Thread John Purser
I just re-installed Debian Woody for the umpteenth time and this time I
chose yes to tasksel and no to deselect.  I got nothing installed and no
chance to choose a task.  Does anyone have any idea what I did wrong?

John Purser



RE: RedHat vs Debian?

2001-08-30 Thread John Purser
Well Alan used a lot more words than I would have but I agree.  Red Hat
convinced me that Linux was for me.  Debian is showing me that I've just
scratched the surface!

FWIW I'm re-re-re-installing Debian Woody as I type this.  My wildly
optimistic goal is to have a working system when I'm done (not repairable,
but really working) while my more realistic goal is to at least understand
what I fucked up this go round before I re-re-re-re-install.

Not scientific but heart felt!

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:25
To: Robert L. Harris; Debian Users
Subject: Re: RedHat vs Debian?


robert:

here's my $0.0001 worth! (with the disclaimer that own rh stock (350)).

i personally like rh (and then bought the stock) because it installed with
such ease on my 4 systems (5.4, 6.1, 7.0, and 7.1 - all are now 7.x). and
the
upgrades went like a snap. my office machine where only m$#!+ is supported
was made whole again by wiping one of the satanic spells (lots of wholly
water!) with 6.1. now it's upgraded to 7.1. i did have a problem in the
upgrade in that i had put on a newer version of kde when under 6.1. all of
that was in /usr/local and after finally nailing that down,  all is well!).
on the other hand, we've another machine that we are (!gasp!) porting some
tools to linux for in-house (read manufacturing) use. that machine was
required to be debian at 2.2.19pre17. i had nothing but hell getting debian
installed. i spent more than 60 hours getting debian to correctly install.
rh
7.1 took about 4 hours. but it finally took debian! i've used apt-get to get
all the packages that i've needed (though apt-get is a bit klunky. for
instance, i would much prefer it show me what i have that has an upgrade
path, rather than everything in the world. maybe a choice of windows: a)
what
i have; b) what i have the needs upgrading and/or has an upgrade; c) items
that i could install that i don't have that may be usefull to what i have
installed already (say a gui front end to ipchains, as way of example),  d)
other items that i don't have, but are available (say i have a cdrw, but no
cdrw software), and finally, e) everything else.

final comment: for the great unwashed out there who have trouble with
formatting a floppy, i recommend mandrake. well, the conclusion here came
about my convincing my 78 year old neighbor to try something besides the
m$#!+ gackware he is addicted to. john being a ticker, finnally relented,
and
started buying every distribution of linux he could find. he got corel,
slackare, rh, mandrake, and a couple whose name i can't recall. he installed
them; he broke them; i fixed them; he broke them; he re-installed them; and
well, you get the picture. (john is spoiled with the windows approach:
program blah is acting strangely: reinstall the whole nine yards and start
over! - and is that a difficult hurdle to overcome!)

anyway, john had better luck getting everything to work the first time with
mandrake than any other package. which is rather interesting given that john
will go down and buy the cheapest piece of junk being sold at the local
computer mega-mart, fry's.

so, my $.0001 boils down to this:

are you a real computer nerd (and that is a salute and compliment!), go for
debian. your knowlege about linux will blossom.

do you want robust, will work, must get on with, with time spent making this
secure for your business? go redhat!

are you able to find the power switch, and with help, find the cd slot? go
mandrake!

again, this is not meant to be demeaning to anyone else's observations. just
what one rambler owning, arkansawyun, worked on everything from vax's
testing
rocket motors to vax's running steel-belt making machines (NOT for
firestone-wall!), to hpux running very conceivable size business to ibm
mainframes looking for oil in seismic exploration to vax computers searching
for plate tectonics on venus. and always, but always, m$#!+ free! 

(additional: never used a computer to certify the diamonds found a Crater of
Diamons State Park in Murfreesboro, AR!)

On Thursday 30 August 2001 08:33, Robert L. Harris wrote:
>   I'm looking for a study/comparison of RedHat vs Debian.  We have a
number
> of boxes, some production, which run everything from RedHat 6.0 and newer.
> I'd like to look at converting to Debian stable but need to justify my
case
> before I can even formally suggest it.  I've started listing my own
> reasons and issues but need more.  Any good suggestions or comparisions
> already done?
>
> Robert
>
> :wq!
>
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RE: Installation: tasksel

2001-08-30 Thread John Purser
I'll try that next time I re-install.  I installed Potato last time and
tasksel worked fine.  The problem is I need Woody to stay current with a
volunteer project I'm working on.

BTW Potato didn't recognize my network cards either.  I think I'll install
Red Hat 7.1 next to see if it does.  I noticed that I didn't get to
configure devices in Woody either so maybe that was the problem.

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joey Hess
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 15:05
To: John Purser
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Installation: tasksel


John Purser wrote:
> I just re-installed Debian Woody for the umpteenth time and this time I
> chose yes to tasksel and no to deselect.  I got nothing installed and no
> chance to choose a task.  Does anyone have any idea what I did wrong?

Are you sure you said yes to tasksel?

If you say no to tasksel and no to dselect, you'll get nothing installed
and that's by design.

If you really said yes to tasksel though, all I can think is that
tasksel might have crashed or something like that.

We can probably find out how you answered if you show me the output of
this command:

debconf-show base-config | egrep tasksel\|dselect

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RE: Installation: tasksel

2001-08-30 Thread John Purser
On the whole I agree.  And it's a much better path to actually understanding
what I'm doing also.  I think either I burned these CD's incorrectly or
parts of the install are broken on this version.  I'm betting on the former.

Any idea why the installation doesn't recognize my NIC's?  I just installed
Potato and it missed them too.

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: kmself@ix.netcom.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:51
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Installation: tasksel


on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:25:03PM -0600, John Purser ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> I just re-installed Debian Woody for the umpteenth time and this time I
> chose yes to tasksel and no to deselect.  I got nothing installed and no
> chance to choose a task.  Does anyone have any idea what I did wrong?

Skip both, or rather, just install a minimal system.

Once you've got the system installed, use apt-get and/or dselect and/or
aptitude, to install packages you need and/or want.  You'll end up
knowing what you've got, and lacking a lot of cruft on your system,
better off for it.

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Manually bring up NICs not found at install and/or rebuilding Kernel

2001-08-31 Thread John Purser
Hello,

I've repeatedly installed Woody (vanilla) and Potato on my IBM and neither
one recognizes the PCI NICs.  Red Hat and W2K get them first try but I don't
want either one on this box.

During the last attempted install of Woody I tried using the "Configure
Network" alternative but was told that there were no NIC's found which means
I have to load different modules in the kernel before I can configure.  So
either I dynamically load the modules or I have to rebuild my kernel or
someone gives me another option.

QUESTIONS:
Is there any way to bring up my NIC's without rebuilding my Kernel?

I've found a .deb file called kernel-source-2.4.6_2.4.6-1_all.deb at
E:\pool\main\k\kernel-source-2.4.6 on the first CD.  Is this my Kernel
Source?  If so how do I install this file.  My Kernel compiling instructions
assume I'm starting with a .bz2 file.

Any tips/suggestions on rebuilding my Kernel?

Would there be any advantage to installing potato and upgrading to Woody?
Potato doesn't recognize my NIC's either but at least tasksel works.

Thanks for the help.

John Purser




RE: Manually bring up NICs not found at install and/or rebuilding Kernel

2001-08-31 Thread John Purser
Okay, so I want to load a module.  I've got about 15 windows open trying to
find what module I need and all I'm finding is information on drivers.

What module do I need to support Intel Pro/100B PCI cards?

Thanks,

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Sebastiaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 05:59
To: John Purser
Cc: 'debian users'
Subject: Re: Manually bring up NICs not found at install and/or
rebuilding Kernel


High,

> Hello,
>
> I've repeatedly installed Woody (vanilla) and Potato on my IBM and neither
> one recognizes the PCI NICs.  Red Hat and W2K get them first try but I
don't
> want either one on this box.
>
> During the last attempted install of Woody I tried using the "Configure
> Network" alternative but was told that there were no NIC's found which
means
> I have to load different modules in the kernel before I can configure.  So
> either I dynamically load the modules or I have to rebuild my kernel or
> someone gives me another option.
>
> QUESTIONS:
> Is there any way to bring up my NIC's without rebuilding my Kernel?
>
Which NIC's are you trying to load?

You might want to do it manually. After the installation process has
installed device drivers on the computer, swap to the second console and
activate it. There you go to /target/lib/modules/2.4.9 (or something),
look for your module and insmod it manually. When that works, go back to
the first console and continue to configure your network. After
installation you may want to run 'modconf' or edit /etc/modules to make
the module auto load.


 >
> Would there be any advantage to installing potato and upgrading to Woody?
> Potato doesn't recognize my NIC's either but at least tasksel works.
>
AFAIK, this has nothing to do with tasksel. You do not have to install
additional packages if you want to make a NIC work.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan

> Thanks for the help.
>
> John Purser
>
>
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RE: Manually bring up NICs not found at install and/or rebuilding Kernel

2001-08-31 Thread John Purser
Some success!

The command I used was modprobe eepro100 and both NIC's came up.  I'm
running a Red Hat 7.1 box also but I'm hesitant to set the Debian box up
exactly the same way because of formatting differences.

So where should I put the modprobe info to load it at boot and where should
I configure the ethernet cards?

Thanks,

John Purser

-Original Message-----
From: John Purser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 06:03
To: 'Sebastiaan'
Cc: 'debian users'
Subject: RE: Manually bring up NICs not found at install and/or
rebuilding Kernel


Okay, so I want to load a module.  I've got about 15 windows open trying to
find what module I need and all I'm finding is information on drivers.

What module do I need to support Intel Pro/100B PCI cards?

Thanks,

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Sebastiaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 05:59
To: John Purser
Cc: 'debian users'
Subject: Re: Manually bring up NICs not found at install and/or
rebuilding Kernel


High,

> Hello,
>
> I've repeatedly installed Woody (vanilla) and Potato on my IBM and neither
> one recognizes the PCI NICs.  Red Hat and W2K get them first try but I
don't
> want either one on this box.
>
> During the last attempted install of Woody I tried using the "Configure
> Network" alternative but was told that there were no NIC's found which
means
> I have to load different modules in the kernel before I can configure.  So
> either I dynamically load the modules or I have to rebuild my kernel or
> someone gives me another option.
>
> QUESTIONS:
> Is there any way to bring up my NIC's without rebuilding my Kernel?
>
Which NIC's are you trying to load?

You might want to do it manually. After the installation process has
installed device drivers on the computer, swap to the second console and
activate it. There you go to /target/lib/modules/2.4.9 (or something),
look for your module and insmod it manually. When that works, go back to
the first console and continue to configure your network. After
installation you may want to run 'modconf' or edit /etc/modules to make
the module auto load.


 >
> Would there be any advantage to installing potato and upgrading to Woody?
> Potato doesn't recognize my NIC's either but at least tasksel works.
>
AFAIK, this has nothing to do with tasksel. You do not have to install
additional packages if you want to make a NIC work.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan

> Thanks for the help.
>
> John Purser
>
>
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Sources for apt-get sources.list

2001-09-07 Thread John Purser
I'm running Woody and I'm confused about what sources to list for apt-get.
When I look at the ftp sites I see directories for Potato and Stable.  I
thought Potato was Stable.  Also I see Woody as well as Unstable AND
Testing.  I'm not sure what status Woody is in just now.

Questions:
Am I seeing generic names (Stable) as well as distribution names (Potato)
and getting them confused?  Or is there a difference between them?

I'm running Woody for a project I'm involved with.  Should I be updating my
system from Stable, Unstable, Testing, or Woody if I'm fairly new to Linux
and not interested (or competent) to assist in bug hunting.

Thanks,

John Purser



Upgrading Kernel to 2.4

2001-09-10 Thread John Purser
Good Morning,

I installed Woody but the output from uname says that I'm running kernel
2.2.19.  I'd like to upgrade my Kernel to 2.4.  I've run "apt-get
dist-upgrade" but uname still says I'm running 2.2.19.

QUESTIONS:
What kernel is woody supposed to be running?  Did I do something wrong in
the installation?

How do I get to a 2.4 kernel?  Should I download the kernel and install it
(the debian way of course) or is there a good reason not to do this?

Thanks for the help,

John Purser




Well that didn't work - Upgrading Woody from 2.2.19 to 2.4.9

2001-09-19 Thread John Purser
Hello,

I ran:
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.9-686

At this point I got a warning to add this line to my /etc/lilo.conf
initrd=/boot/initrd

I did and ran:

lilo
apt-get install kernel-image2.4.9-686

And rebooted.

Now it hangs during boot with this message:

VFS: Cannot open root device "302" or 03:02
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:02

This a test machine so I don't mind blowing it away and re-installing woody
again if I have to but is there another way?  And what are the steps
necessary to upgrading to 2.4 on woody?  I've seen the .deb for upgrading
potato to 2.4, should I have used that?

Thanks,

John Purser



RE: Takin' the plunge...

2001-10-09 Thread John Purser
I'm was in a similar position a year or so back.  I used Red Hat for a while
and I must say the install for Red Hat 7.1 is lovely!  Now I'm using Debian
Woody and am unlikely to go back.  I think the Debian "philosophy" (for want
of a better word) suits me better.  As a new user I feel that there is more
of an emphasis on getting a good basic understanding the OS without having
to go into really esoteric minutia with Debian.  apt-get is outstanding and
the help on the mailing list has been in my experience the fastest and most
accurate of any I've used.

FWIW a friend of mine really likes Mandrake.  Install and use, no sweat.

If you've got the bucks or the bandwidth then you might want to get a few
sets of CD's and have a little install party once a month or so.  Use a
distro for a while, talk to the people on each mailing list, then a month
later blow it away and start over with a new one.  See which one you really
like.

Good luck and have fun!

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Royce Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 08:53
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Takin' the plunge...


Okay, this is it.  I'm about to take the plunge into Linux, but my
experience with dumb terminal-based Unix is over 20 years old.  In the
interim, I've been on Windows; a sometimes happy, but always frustrating and
infuriating marriage of convenience and productivity-enslavement.

Debian Linux was recommended to me by a friend, but (this is embarrassing to
admit, as I feel like a newbie all over again) quite frankly, I'm
confusingly overwhelmed at the different products now available.  Debian,
RedHat, etc.  Everybody says theirs is the best, but they cannot all be
correct.  I don't particularly want to go back to the command line, but I do
appreciate the minimalist approach of Unix, especially from a security
standpoint.

Any suggestions to ease the mind and grease the process?

rb
=
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Re: Two tuxes, an xp and a DNS problem

2005-10-29 Thread John Purser
On 10/29/05, marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have three machines in a small network: one XP, two Linux - let's call
> them xp, tux1 and tux2. xp connects to the Internet via a dial-up modem.
> Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) is enable and works fine. ICS forces
> xp's IP to be 192.168.0.1, so the hosts file of tux1 and tux2 contains a
> line to that effect. ICS also provides DHCP services, which is how tux1
> and tux2 assign their IPs.
>
> xp can ping tux 1 and tux 2 (and see other IP services)
> tux1 and tux2 can ping xp, use its IP services, and connect to the Net
> through it.
>
> But tux 1 and tux 2 can't find each other.
>
> However, tux1 and tux2 both run Samba servers and "see" each other
> without problems - via their Windows workgroup.
>
> /etc/resolv.conf on both tuxes contains:
> search mshome.net
> nameserver 192.168.0.1
>
> How can I make tux1 and tux 2 talk to each other without resorting to
> fixed IPs?
>
> --
> Best,
> Marc
>
>
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Marc,

I believe the problem is with the XP box and believe it or not it's
doing the right thing.

Only certain ports are open by default in Windows under ICS.  The UDP
port that ping uses might not be one of them.  Open up your XP network
connection and take a look.  Go to connection properties (right click
on the interface), select the "advanced" tab.  There will be two
buttons on that form marked "Settings"  The top one is for the windows
firewall and the bottom is for ICS.  Take a look and see if the ping
UDP port is enabled.

Not sure this will do it but it's worth a shot.

Take a look at the firewall settings button too.  Mine was set to
allow internet connections from outside!  Okay, it was doing half the
right thing.

John Purser



Re: Two tuxes, an xp and a DNS problem

2005-10-30 Thread John Purser
On 10/30/05, marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Purser said...
> > On 10/29/05, marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I have three machines in a small network: one XP, two Linux - let's call
> > > them xp, tux1 and tux2. xp connects to the Internet via a dial-up modem.
> > > Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) is enable and works fine. ICS forces
> > > xp's IP to be 192.168.0.1, so the hosts file of tux1 and tux2 contains a
> > > line to that effect. ICS also provides DHCP services, which is how tux1
> > > and tux2 assign their IPs.
> > >
> > > xp can ping tux 1 and tux 2 (and see other IP services)
> > > tux1 and tux2 can ping xp, use its IP services, and connect to the Net
> > > through it.
> > >
> > > But tux 1 and tux 2 can't find each other.
> > >
> > > However, tux1 and tux2 both run Samba servers and "see" each other
> > > without problems - via their Windows workgroup.
> > >
> > > /etc/resolv.conf on both tuxes contains:
> > > search mshome.net
> > > nameserver 192.168.0.1
> > >
> > > How can I make tux1 and tux 2 talk to each other without resorting to
> > > fixed IPs?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > > Marc
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > I believe the problem is with the XP box and believe it or not it's
> > doing the right thing.
> >
> > Only certain ports are open by default in Windows under ICS.  The UDP
> > port that ping uses might not be one of them.  Open up your XP network
> > connection and take a look.  Go to connection properties (right click
> > on the interface), select the "advanced" tab.  There will be two
> > buttons on that form marked "Settings"  The top one is for the windows
> > firewall and the bottom is for ICS.  Take a look and see if the ping
> > UDP port is enabled.
>
> I temporarily enabled everything - and rebooted, as you do with Windows
> ;-) - but still no communication between the two tuxes. It's not just
> ping, of course, they can't resolve each other for http and so forth.
> The only thing that does work is Samba, but that might be something to
> do with the Windows workgroup thing  Forcing the issue with their
> allocated IPs also works, so they can "see" each other, but just won't
> talk.
>
> Funnily enough, I had the ping problem when I installed the Outpost
> firewall - which shuts off that port also - so I know where you are
> coming from.
>
> --
> Best,
> Marc
>
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DOH!  And of course ping uses ICMP, not UDP.

Sorry I didn't help Marc.  I'm about to convert a desktop to Linux,
after which I can model your setup.  I'll let you know if I find
anything that is meaningful.

John Purser



Re: (OT) Beginner's Linux book recommendation

2005-10-31 Thread John Purser
On 10/31/05, [KS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is a little bit off topic but I thought I might get some good
> recommendations from subscribers to this list.
>
> A friend of mine has just installed Linux (err...SUSE) after a few
> tries. Now that he has his Linux running, he is curious to start
> learning Linux usage. He emailed to know which book is good for learning
> Linux. I haven't ever used a beginner's book to learn the basics so I
> don't know which one to recommend. Does anyone have some experience in
> this regards? Are there books for learning linux worth recommending?
> Also it would be perfect if the sale of each copy contributed to the OSS
> community.
>
> He wants a "user oriented" book rather than one focusing on
> administration. Also I think it should be a general one rather than for
> a specific distribution.
>
> Thanks for comments,
> /KS
>
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One thing I've found to be very helpful is to get a distribution
specific or at least friendly manual to begin with.  Trying to use a
RedHat focused manual on Debian was a pain at first.  When you're just
learning your way around it's important for things to be where they're
supposed to be especially configuration files.

Another good tip is to join the appropriate mailing list.  Lots of
friendly penguinistas out there eager to help.

I'd recommend the RUTE book if he weren't already using Suse.  I'm not
sure what's available that's Suse specific.

John Purser



Re: OT: Small business financial software

2005-11-29 Thread John Purser
On 11/29/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will be shortly starting a small business.  I am wondering what
> software (preferrably available via apt-get/aptitude/etc.)  other small
> business owners/consultants out there use to keep track of business
> finances.  Thanks for any insight.
>
> -Roberto
>
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>
>
>
Roberto,

I'm in the process of converting my personal finances from windows to
Linux.  I've been impressed by GNUCash.  Take a look at it as well as
SQLLedger.

John Purser