Re: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?

[John Goerzen]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miquel van Smoorenburg) writes:

> It's a kernel issue. On 32 bit platforms time_t will probably always be
> restricted to 32 bits, but on 64 bits systems such as the alpha time_t
> is 64 bits .. and by 2038 I expect everyone to be running at least
> a 64 bit machine.

BZZT, wrong answer!

First, some people already need to go far into the future for
forecasting applications.

Secondly, even if desktop machines no longer are 32-bit, by that time
Linux certainly will run on minituarized devices that may not be
64-bit.  Let us not repeat the same mistake others are making!

> In fact in a few years everyone using the Intel platform will probably
> have switched to a mercoed or its successor which is 64 bit.

This is not due out for several more years, and considering that old
XTs from the early 80s will still be around at that time (they'll be
20 years old at least), it's not at all a stretch to say that the
32-bit machines from the late 1990s or early 2000s will still be
around in 2038.

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HTML ToC generators?

[John Goerzen]

Hi,

I have a large collection of webpages and I am looking for something
to generate a Table of Contents (eg, site index).  I don't need a
search tool -- something that just spits out HTML will be fine.

Any ideas where to find such a thing?


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Re: Is there any program like ICQ ? Thanks ! ;)

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Nuno,

There are several Linux solutions that provide an extended subset of
the ICQ functionality.  You may want to take a look at ytalk and IRC.

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Re: Is there any program like ICQ ? Thanks ! ;)

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Stuart Krivis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 26 May 1998, John Goerzen wrote:
> 
> > There are several Linux solutions that provide an extended subset of
> > the ICQ functionality.  You may want to take a look at ytalk and IRC.
> 
> Or you could use ICQ for Java. I've used it with Solaris x86 and RedHat 5.
> It seems to be pretty stable.

I have experienced a few too many crashes.  It is also a memory hog
(12 meg).  Which is much more than the, what, 3k that it takes inetd
to listen for ytalk requests... :-)

However, it is indeed true that ICQ can be better for mobile users.
In the end, it's up to the user, of course.  I prefer ytalk but others 
prefer ICQ and it is indeed available and usable under Linux.

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Re: cd writers & linux

[John Goerzen]

Just make sure you get SCSI.  I highly reccommend the cdrecord
program.  Take a look at the docs that come with it for a list of
suported devices.

Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm interested in buying a internal/ide cd writer.  I'd like to be able to
> (in linux) write audio cds, direct read, speed isn't too important, and
> I'm not sure about worm vs rewritable.  What is the difference (other than
> being able to erase, rewite, etc.)? 
> 
> Any recommendations?
> 
> Thanks
> -Paul
> 
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Re: e2defrag-problem

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First, I cannot verify this, but I am almost certain that you should
UNMOUNT before running any defrag program!

Secondly, there is no need for defrag on ext2fs systems unless you
have a REALLY weird setup.

John

Wolfgang Gernot Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Im having a problem with the e2defrag-program (debian2.0). I always get
> the following message: 
> 
> > mother# e2defrag -Vr /dev/sda1
> > e2defrag 0.73
> > RCS version $Id: defrag.c,v 1.4 1997/08/17 14:23:57 linux Exp $
> > 
> > e2defrag: Error seeking to end of filesystem
> > mother# 
> 
> The debian-system itself works well... :(
> 
> Here are my mounted drives: 
> > mother# df
> > Filesystem 1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
> > /dev/sda12478138 1824826   525196 78%   /
> > /dev/sda41019856  711792   308064 70%   /msdos/c
> 
> Anyone had luck with defrag?
> 
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Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .

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Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> > privately...)
> > 
> > My system information:
> > 
> > lpr 5.9-26
> 
> Fixed:
> ii  lpr 5.9-27 BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system
> 
> Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the
> /etc/init.d/lpd restart section.

Why would this make a difference?  Wouldn't this signify a race
condition?  Worse, on a heavily-loaded system, wouldn't 2 seconds be
too little a wait for whatever needs to be done?

> 
> HTH,
> Brandon
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Re: Holy Water in my system? Daemons keep dying . . .

[John Goerzen]

OK, I don't mind that as long as the bug is left open (with severity
downgraded, of course).

John

Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 15 Jun 1998, John Goerzen wrote:
> 
> > > Or, just put a 2 second sleep between the kill and start in the
> > > /etc/init.d/lpd restart section.
> > 
> > Why would this make a difference?  Wouldn't this signify a race
> > condition?  Worse, on a heavily-loaded system, wouldn't 2 seconds be
> > too little a wait for whatever needs to be done?
> 
> Yes, it is a race condition.  My guess is that lpr doesn't die before the
> next lpr tries to start up.  The second lpr sees the first and fails to
> start, and then the first finally dies.  There are much better solutions
> than a 2 second wait, and it will probably fail on a heavily-loaded
> system.  However, it's enough to get the bug out of the release critical
> list, and to take a deap breath before working on the correct solution.
> 
> OK?
> Brandon
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Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2

[John Goerzen]

Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, I disagree with this point of view. Yes, Debian wishes to support
> newcomers to Linux. That is why we have debian-user. We have a
> responsibility to those new users to "train" them to be "free" users.
> They can only do that if they become familiar with the ins and outs of the
> "Debian Way".

But by actually submitting a bug report in the first place, they're
already helping.  The maintainer can either fix it or open a dialogue
up with the submitter if more information is needed.

The fact is -- if we require research beforehand, there will be FAR
fewer reports.  I for one will not submit any (or very few at least)
bug reports if this happens.  This will end up hurting Debian
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Re: Bug reporting proceedure, was Re: Bug#24066: libc6: rsh segfaults as , a result of new libc 2.0.7r2

[John Goerzen]

Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Suggesting, even strongly, that it is proper proceedure when submitting a
> bug, to research the bug reporting system first, and provide useful
> information second, doesn't seem onerous to me, and has several practical
> uses for the bug submitter, as well as the maintainer.

I disagree.  When I am doing an upgrade, I may notice a number of
bugs.  Perhaps I can log on to a terminal next to the computer I'm
upgrading and submit bug reports.

However, I do not have time to check the bug logs and webpages (which
may be out-of-date, remember).  Sometimes (often, actually, for me)
the Internet connection is slow.  I use Debian at work and I'm not
paid to research the Debian bug logs when, for instance, X suddenly
breaks because KDE has removed the /etc/X11/Xsession file.  (Still
haven't received a reply to this one yet, and it's in hamm!)

> Merging bugs is not that hard, but it also doesn't provide any bookkeeping
> advantages to the maintainer. The bugs still get reported in the
> "problems" report separately. Nags still come separately. This requires
> that the maintainer keep records of which bugs have been merged.

Well then we ought to fix those reporting mechanisms.

> I am only suggesting that we make clear that the socially correct way to
> report a bug involves adequate research on the part of the bug reporter.

We can SUGGEST this as before.  However, I will be Very Upset if
people start complaining at me because I filed bug reports without
checking the webpages first after a particularly frustrating upgrade
experience that took three times longer than it should have because
people delete me config files or fail to put a "read" at the end of
their postinst and important information goes whizzing by the screen.

> This "requirement" provides additional service to the user at the same
> time that it provides the maintainer with more chance to fix the problem.

I feel that I'm already helping out the project by reporting a bug.
I often don't have time to figure out the problem and end up deleting
packages if they're non-essential -- or doing some quick hack to fix
it.

BTW, while we're on this topic, I am ASTOUNDED at the number of
packages that display messages in postinst but don't prompt for Enter
keypress -- the messages then scroll by.  Even though policy requires
a prompt.

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Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.

[John Goerzen]

On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 09:23:34AM +1300, David Zanetti wrote:

> That is, until it dselect comes along an upgrades the X servers :(
> 
> Several times already my 3.3.3 SVGA server has been nuked by dselect,
> and 3.3.2 doesn't support my TNT board :(

This would imply that you're using 3.3.3 debs for X, which are not available
yet.

I would suggest that you download your own version and stick it in
/usr/local/bin, and set /etc/X11/Xserver to use that file.


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> recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not
> disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are
> asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your
> assistance is appreciated.

This doesn't make a lot of sense, considering that this list is public with
thousands of subscribers and web-based archives mirrored around the world,
with news gateways and corresponding archives there.

Re: XFree86 3.3.3.1 packaged.

[John Goerzen]

Is this built with the Sparc and Alpha patches, so those of us not on
x86 can try it out too?

Thanks,
John

Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 'lo,
>
> If you feel bored this WE or happen to have one of those gfx cards
> supported only in the most recents XFree86 releases, you may want to try
> my 3.3.3.1 packages.
> They're accessible on: http://master.debian.org/~vincent/xfree-3.3.3.1/
>
> Notes:
> - Based on the Debian changes from 3.3.2.3a-10 and upstream 3.3.3.1
>   sources.
> - One new binary package produced: xserver-glint; boards supported: GLINT
>   500TX with IBM RGB526 RAMDAC, GLINT MX with IBM RGB526 and IBM
>   RGB640 RAMDAC, Permedia with IBM RGB526 RAMDAC and Permedia 2
>   (classic, 2a, 2v).
> - Takes ~1.5h to build on my Celeron 385 ;)
> - These are _not_ the 3.3.3.1 "official" packages. Branden should make
>   them in a while.
> - These packages WorkForMe(tm), but I haven't tested them too much. If you
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Re: cdu31a

[John Goerzen]

Hello Andrea,

The kernel sources list the following as possible addresses:

   { 0x340, 0 },/* Standard configuration Sony Interface */
   { 0x1f88,0 },/* Fusion CD-16 */
   { 0x230, 0 },/* SoundBlaster 16 card */
   { 0x360, 0 },/* Secondary standard Sony Interface */
   { 0x320, 0 },/* Secondary standard Sony Interface */
   { 0x330, 0 },/* Secondary standard Sony Interface */
   { 0x634, 0 },/* Sound FX SC400 */
   { 0x654, 0 },/* Sound FX SC400 */

In my experience, I found it often at 0x330 or 0x300, or 0x2c0 (not
all of those are listed.)  If all else fails, try each of those and
see if you get it to work.  Hint: compile it as a module and specify
it on the command line so you don't have to compile and reboot so many
times.

Andrea Novara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi to all!
> 
> I have an old sony cdu33a 2x cd! The problem is that no docs are provided
> about which io_port I should use. The DOS driver don't tell me the values!
> The manifacturer of the audio card / controller have retired ( was Reveal )
> and all the hints in cdu31a.c don't work!
> 
> I'm using kernel 2.2.1 on hamm.
> 
> What can I do?
> 
> Thanks!!!
> Andrea
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Re: Debian Kills Disks

[John Goerzen]

Jerry,

It would be *very* helpful if you could include the exact error
messages that you get, word-for-word, what you were doing when you
received them, and how to reproduce.  Otherwise, we really have no
idea what to do to fix.

However, you can wipe out the partition table and master boot record
on your disk and restart.  WARNING: THIS COMMAND WILL DESTROY
EVERYTHING ON YOUR DISK.  USE WITH CARE!  Also, reboot immediately
after using it.

  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=10

Jerry Human <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello Debian Geeks:
> 
> Before you get upset let me declare that I'm a Linux/Debian newbie geek
> wannabe. I've only recently (a month ago) became interested in Linux.
> I've spent most of the time reading everything I could find. I have
> d/led a few distros to get a feel of Linux. I have two computers, a
> 486DX50 VLB and a 386DX40. The 486 is running PC DOS 7.0 and Win95, 40x
> CD and SB 16 Pro that is my main box for doing almost everything
> including surfing the net. The 386 is my test box that I'm trying to get
> Linux to run on but it doesn't have a CD or modem. Consequently, I have
> obtained everything I have for Linux on the Win95 box and transferred to
> the 386 via floppy.
> 
> I've made the floppies (Rescue, Drivers, 5 base disks for Debian)
> following the instructions in the .txt files and Howto's on the 486 in
> DOS using Rawrite for them and used the disks to install Debian several
> times as I would learn more and realize I had left something out or
> wanted to try something different. These seem to be the most stable
> floppies I have made in Debian. Needless to say, Debian would succeed
> more times than any of the other distros, including RedHat.
> 
> Obviously, I spent most of my time working/learning Debian. However,
> after using a floppy two or three times, it became unusable in any OS.
> This I attributed to normal attrition, even though the attrition rate
> was a lot higher than in any of the other OS's. Now the hard drive in
> the 386 has become unusable.
> 
> Even Debian is refusing to install properly on it, the last semi
> successful install attempt resulted in a Read Only partial install that
> won't boot from the hard disk and a floppy boot won't access the hard
> disk. I believe that Debian has "signed" the boot partition in some way
> to make the disk(s) unusable. In other words, a software flag or
> partition id was written to the disk in a way that was not completely
> correct. How can I correct this? Is there a Hex editor I could use to
> clear the boot sector of the disk so a new install would work correctly?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: help me to undertand GMT time!!!!

[John Goerzen]

John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I wrote:
> > 12:00 noon, please.  12:00 pm is midnight...
> 
> Pann McCuaig writes:
> > I don't think so. 12:00pm is noon
> 
> PM stands for post meridiem, which means after noon.  Thus 12PM is 12 hours
> after noon, or midnight.

No.  By your logic, 12:01 PM is 12 hours and one minute after noon.

12:00 PM is noon, because the time switches from AM to PM at noon.
Simple, eh?

> be 12AM or 12PM.  The instant of midnight is both 12 hours before and 12 hours
> after noon, and therefor is both 12AM and 12PM.
> 
> Say "noon" and "midnight", or use 24 hour notation.

Yes.

Re: help me to undertand GMT time!!!!

[John Goerzen]

"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > PM stands for post meridiem, which means after noon.  Thus 12PM is 12 
> > > hours
> > > after noon, or midnight.
> > 
> > No.  By your logic, 12:01 PM is 12 hours and one minute after noon.
> > 
> > 12:00 PM is noon, because the time switches from AM to PM at noon.
> > Simple, eh?
> 
> John Hasler is correct.  The point is there is NO 12 am or 12 pm.  As he

That is not what he said.  He said that, and I quote, "12 PM is 12
hours after noon, or midnight."  This is incorrect.

> Although it might seen as a logical conclusion to say that 12:00 pm is noon,
> the argument doesn't hold, because `pm' has a precise definition.  It means
> "when any given star has _crossed_ the meridian"

Which it will have by the time you are able to write either the AM or
the PM.  Speaking of one precise instant in time is pointless; it is
gone in an infinately small amount of time.  Trying to confuse the
issue, and everyone, by doing this is silly.  Nitpicking like that is
unnecessary, and you are not correctly stating either my statement or
the one to which I was replying.

Re: elm sending blank mails

[John Goerzen]

Max,

I don't know if this is a problem with glibc2.1 or Exim -- neither of
which I have the opportunity to test (my development platform is Alpha 
running sendmail).

It is possible that your kernel version is causing trouble; being an
"unstable" and development kernel could have its risks.

Have you tried downgrading system components one by one to make sure
that it's really an elm problem and not a glibc2.1 one?  What happens
with other MTAs?

Max Kamenetsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just upgraded my potato system to the latest version of libc and exim,
> and I'm not faced with the problem of elm sending blank e-mails.  If I
> send a test message or reply to someone else's e-mail, the message comes
> out blank.  The mail buffer gets written to a file in /tmp just like it's
> supposed to, and I can see that it's there right before I press "s" to
> send.  The strange thing is that the message is sent empty, even though
> it gets written properly to my "sent" folder.  There are no error messages
> in exim's mainlog.  What is even stranger is that if I send a MIME
> message, it goes through OK.  Pine also works fine.  So, does anyone know
> what's going on?  I'd really like to get this fixed ASAP, but it seems
> that the Debian version of elm wasn't compiled with debugging support.
> 
> I'm running glibc2.1 under kernel 2.1.121.
> 
> Thanks, and please reply via e-mail!
> 
> Max Kamenetsky

Re: elm sending blank mails

[John Goerzen]

Max Kamenetsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> No, I haven't tried downgrading yet, though I know that the problem is not
> with the kernel version.  I get the same problem with kernel 2.2.3.  I'd
> also be very surprised if this were an MTA problem because pine works
> fine.  I haven't tried downgrading glibc because that is a major task

Pine and Elm may be talking in different ways to the MTA or feeding it 
different types of data.

I'd suggest that you make a full bug report, including version numbers 
of everything, log files with as much debugging information as
possible, a sample blank mail, and the like.  Try it with different
kernel versions, different libc versions, etc., replacing things one
at a time until the problem goes away.

> (it's a whole bunch of packages, I'm not even sure where to begin with
> those).  So, is there anyone out there using elm with exim and glibc2.1?
> There's got to be at least one person!

Well, glibc2.1 is a *very* new introduction to unstable, and as such,
is, well, unstable.

Re: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian

[John Goerzen]

Andrei Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > it's a TV/Radio tuner which works under all the winblows versions
> 
> Just because it works with Windows doesnt guarantee it's work with Linux. 
> It's a WinTV card. Basicly, logic suggests it's a Win-hardware, and
> therefor you can not use it with Linux.

This is incorrect.  Those cards use the BT848 chipset, which is
explicitly supported by Video4Linux.

Re: Web-based email for Debian

[John Goerzen]

There are quite a few.   If you go to freshmeat.net and search for the words
web mail, you'll find about a dozen.

-- John


On Tue, Dec 29, 1998 at 10:35:39AM -0500, Randy Edwards wrote:

> I'm running a slink system w/Exim as my MTA.  Does anyone know of a web-based
> e-mail system that would fit into a Debian system nicely?
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Re: What owns a piece of postgresql...

[John Goerzen]

Two ways to find this:

1.  grep or zgrep through Contents-i386, located in dists/unstable/ or
dists/stable;

2.  use dpkg -S libpq.so.1

John

On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 06:21:47PM -0600, Chris Frost wrote:

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> What package own /usr/lib/postgresql/dumpall/6.3/psql, libpq.so.1 and
> libpq.so.2? Reason being, I have the posgresql from hamm and am trying to
> upgrade to the version in potato (which has python support) and to dump my
> databases I need these files.
> 
> tia,
> Chris
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Re: What owns a piece of postgresql...

[John Goerzen]

Ahh, no ideas then.  Try writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to reach
the maintainer; he may be able to help, or it may be a bug in the package.

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On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 07:18:23PM -0600, Chris Frost wrote:

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> > Two ways to find this:
> > 
> > 1.  grep or zgrep through Contents-i386, located in dists/unstable/ or
> > dists/stable;
> > 
> > 2.  use dpkg -S libpq.so.1
> Guess I should have been more specific, but I'm trying to find the package
> that provides these files so that I can install it. Anyway, I downloaded
> Contents-i386 from both slink and potato and neither had the files in the
> correct places that I need (/usr/lib/postgresql/dumpall/6.3/).
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
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Re: function keys

[John Goerzen]

I'm not so sure there's really a problem.  As long as xterm is generating
codes that match the "xterm" terminfo spec, and the console is generating
codes that match the "linux" terminfo spec, what's the problem?

On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 08:49:42PM -0600, dan wrote:

> Currently, the function keys in the virtual consoles generate different 
> escape sequences then in environments such as xterm and screen.  I've only 
> tested keymaps under i386/qwerty, but I suspect this applies to others as 
> well.  
> 
> Is there any logic behind the currently assigned escape sequences?  Are they 
> sup posed to emulate a certain terminal behavior?  Right now, they don't 
> really make sense.
> 
> My suggestion is to make function keys consistant across as many tty 
> interfaces as possible.
> 
> I think the best way to do this is to change the files 
> /usr/share/keymaps/*/*/* so that they are consistant on all ttys.  I would 
> help with this, but I want to know what people think first.  Configuration 
> for other programs could also be modified, but I don't know as much about how 
> to do that.
> 
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Re: scsi tape

[John Goerzen]

On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 11:23:26AM -0500, David B. Teague wrote:

> 
> Hi Debian Users: 
> 
> The question is: can I use SCSI disk drives currently running with an
> Adaptec 2840 SCSI controller with Bus Logic controller? 

I'm not quite sure what you're asking here.  There's not much point to
having two controllers on a single SCSI chain...

> What about SCSI tapes: can a SCSI tape made on a tape drive with one
> controller be read with the same tape drive run with another (SCSI)
> controller?  (Reason suggests the affirmative, but reason
> unfortunately does not always prevail.)

Yes.

> Questions restated: I need to move the data from the old machine to
> the new one. I'd like to be able to use the tape drive and some of the
> SCSI disks with a Bus Logic or other SCSI controller.  Will I be able
> to use the disks unchanged on the machines with a Bus Logic SCSI
> controller?  What about reading the tape drives? 

You'll be able to use them provided that the new machine uses the same type
of SCSI.  If, for instance, then new machine is UW SCSI and the old one is
Fast SCSI, you'll need an adaptor device to hook up the old device (unless
your card also has a Fast SCSI connector).

Re: Goodbye, people!

[John Goerzen]

On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 08:30:35PM -0500, Randy Edwards wrote:

>Gee, that sounds familiar! ;-)
> 
>Yes, Linux's learning curve is pretty steep, and you can't just overwhelm
> the system either (at least I can't!).  You're taking the right tack -- you
> have to relax, plug away, keep trying, and savor every little victory; after,
> of course, making backup copies of your config files in case you screw
> something up!  You wouldn't believe how many "*.conf.good" files used to
> litter my hard drives. ;-)

I've been using it for years (and am a developer); I still do that sort of
thing :-)

There'are always something new.  Lately, I've learned a lot about DNS and
anti-spam in sendmail.  Someday I want to learn enough to hack on the kernel
in a proficient manner.   Of course, by that time, there will probably be
hundreds of new programs just waiting for me to learn about :-)

Re: Slink CDs available

[John Goerzen]

Hi,

Will you be making CD images of the other architectures to be carried in
slink as well, so those can be tested?

Thanks,
John

On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 02:59:11AM -0500, Johnie Ingram wrote:

> 
> With the Bug count under 20 now, I figure it's time for some final
> testing of Slink.
> 
> For CD beta testers I've put the 2 i386 binary and 2 source images up
> on a server in Michigan (US), accessible via ftp, http, and rsync:
> 
> -rw-r--r--   588021760 1999/02/02 20:17:16 slink1.raw
> -rw-r--r--   546574336 1999/02/02 20:20:57 slink2.raw
> -rw-r--r--   632743936 1999/02/02 20:25:00 slink3.raw
> -rw-r--r--   590200832 1999/02/02 20:29:00 slink4.raw
> total size is 2357541044
> 
> Just the first 2 are necessary to test the install, and if you're
> lucky you can get by with 1.  :-)  They're completely unofficial, but
> made with Steve McIntyre's slink-cd deb, and so should approximate
> what the final CDs will look like.
> 
> If you're just testing the 2.1 upgrade, and not the CDs themselves,
> all you need is the APT deb in /debian/dists/slink/main/upgrade-i386
> on any mirror.  Put this in /etc/apt/sources.list:
> 
>deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free
>deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US
> 
> And then run "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade".
> 
> The links for these images are on my site, http://netgod.net/ --
> instructions on burning them are at http://cdimage.debian.org/ and in
> cdrecord docs.  Please let me know what problems remain, or if you
> prefer pre-burned CDR.
> 
> BTW the vote for the next Debian Project Leader is almost over (17
> hours to go) and I'll post the pic of the winner.  :-)  The nominees
> are BenC, dark, Knghtbrd, and wichert.
> 
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Re: [whine] "Power down." vs "System halted."

[John Goerzen]

On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 02:26:44PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

> I belive we now use the POWER_OFF mechanism by default as machines with
> APM bioses and ATX power supplies actualy do shut off.

My Alpha, which has zero APM suport either in the BIOS or in the kernel,
also displays that message.

> 
> There might be a way to tweak it, option to shutdown or something?
> 
> Jason
> 
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Re: [Debian]: Deutsche Manpages

[John Goerzen]

Kurt,

Entschuldigen Sie bitte meine Grammatik.  Ich spreche nur ein bisschen
Deutsch.

Wenn Sie Debian 2.1 haben, koennen Sie dies tun:

Zuerst installieren Sie die Pakete "manpages-de" und
"manpages-de-dev".  Dann schreiben Sie:

export LANG=de_DE

Jetzt koennen Sie schreiben, zum Beispiel:

man cat

Und Sie erhalten die deutsche manpage.

-- John

"Kurt Stallknecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ich muss das Thema noch einmal aufgreifen, da ich das selbe Problem 
> habe und noch nicht "Jau" rufen kann. Die Umgebungsvariablen habe ich 
> gesetzt und auch die AEnderungen in der manpath.conf vorgenommen. In 
> bo hat das wunderbar geklappt, aber seit dem Update auf hamm muss ich 
> das Manual wieder in Englisch lesen. Klaert sich das mit dem Update 
> auf slink von alleine oder liegt es evtl. daran, dass bei mir z.B. 
> LANG=de_DE und nicht LANG=de steht?
> 
> Danke fuer jeden Hinweis,
> 
> Kurt
> 
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Re: **IMPORTANT** Slink sendmail and libdb2

[John Goerzen]

Would it be possible for the sendmailconfig to update these databases?
It wouldn't be that hard, I think.  Also, how about updating the
defailts so that they are stored in /etc/mail instead of /etc?

John

Richard A Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The last update of sendmail switched from libdb to libdb2, as
> recommended by the sendmail group (and requested by a sparc user).
> 
> Unfortunately, this change means that sendmail databases (alias,
> users, etc.) *must* be rebuilt.
> 
> I'll update the package to provide this warning - but those who
> have already synched to Slink should do this ASAP!
> 
> Sorry for the confusion,
> -- 
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Re: **IMPORTANT** Slink sendmail and libdb2

[John Goerzen]

Remco van de Meent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 08:35:35AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> 
>  : Would it be possible for the sendmailconfig to update these databases? 
>  : It wouldn't be that hard, I think.  Also, how about updating the defailts
>  : so that they are stored in /etc/mail instead of /etc?
> 
> They default to /etc/mail, except for aliases.db, which should be in /etc
> (Debian Policy, 4.5).

I know what policy says, but this is not how it works.  mailertable,
etc. are in /etc and not /etc/mail.

> Because of the different db-structures you can use (hash, btree, etc.), I'd
> say don't let an automatic install program update those databases. It should
> even be able to process customized sendmail.cf's in order to work without
> failure. I personally wouldn't want any program changing those databases
> itself...

It's a pain to manually have to run a long makemap command each time
something is updated.  There has GOT to be a better way...



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Alternatives to NIS?

[John Goerzen]

At my location, we are dealing with a large Unix network composed of
machines from multiple vendors -- Debian, RedHat, Sun, DEC, etc.  We are
moving largely in the direction of Debian and some of the legacy systems
will be dropped within a few years anyway (due to Y2K nonconformity).

We have approximately 2500 users that can pick any of a few dozen machines
to log in to.  Currently, we use NIS to propogate passwd information
(login, password, UID, etc.)  I am aware that NIS is widely considered to
be insecure.  I am wondering what alternatives Debian might support that
would provide a more secure solution than NIS.

Regards,
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Re: best Linux video card

[John Goerzen]

Pere,

I got an ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV 8MEG (Mach64/3D RageII+) card for
about $210.  It is quite awesome, and lightning fast.  It supports my
21" monitor quite nicely, and is well-supported under Windows as well.

The TV output doesn't work under Linux, but that's not what I got it
for anyway :-)

"Pere Camps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!
> 
>   What's the best Linux/Debian (Win95/NT too) compatible video card 
> available for $100-225? 
> 
>   Thanks in advance for your help!
> 
> Pere.
> 
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Re: [Q] 56K US Robotics?

[John Goerzen]

Vladislav,

You can use a chatscript of this type:

ABORTBUSY
ABORT"NO CARRIER"
ABORTVOICE
ABORT"NO DIALTONE"
ABORT"NO DIAL TONE"
""   ATZ
OK   ATDT123-4567
CONNECT  "\c"
^M

Then you will get the connect speed logged to /var/log/messages,
although you may have to use the -v option to chat to make it log
that.

John

Vladislav Papayan x285 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> Would anyone know how to verify that I am connecting to
> Internet at 56K.  I run Debian hamm + 2.1.78 kernel.
> I use X-ISP package to connect (it displays 31.200 connected speed).
> I know that when I use the same modem connecting to the same ISP
> only running WinNT -- it connects at 56K.
> I made sure that setserial is used with "speed_vhi" options when
> setting up my serial ports. My pppd is 2.3 patch level two.
> 
> What else do I need to do to get it going at 56K.   And may be I am
> connecting at 56K -- but how do I verify it for sure (my modem
> is US Robatics external).
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Vladislav
> 
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Re: Debian max file size is 1GB instead of 2GB?

[John Goerzen]

Steve Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Sorry if my previous post on this made it out as well.
> 
> It seems that on Debian, the maximum single file size on ext2fs is 1GB and
> not 2GB.  Can someone confirm this, and suggest how to fix the problem,
> if possible?

I am getting bigger than 1 gig:

garfield /scratch$ cat /dev/zero > test
cat: write error: No space left on device
garfield /scratch$ ls -l
total 1433633
drwx--   4 jgoerzen jgoerzen 1024 Jan 19 13:19 jgoerzen
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root12288 Dec 14 11:26 lost+found
-rw-rw-r--   1 jgoerzen jgoerzen 1462290432 Jan 26 20:46 test

Kernel 2.0.33, libc6.

This is well over a gig.

John


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Re: MWave Modem

[John Goerzen]

The real reason is that the MWave (and similar modems like the
WinModem) are not really real modems.  They offload the stuff that
the modem should be doing itself on to the computer's CPU.  This is
bad.  First, it eats CPU time like crazy.  Secondly, it requires
special OS-specific drivers to work.  In all, a bad design and
something to be avoided.

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> "tommy knocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I have an IBM computer with debian installed and it uses an internal 
> > Mwave modem.  I can't seem so write a script that will initialize the 
> > modem.  Does anybody have a script that will work with this modem that I 
> > can look at?  
> 
> I have bad news & I have bad news.  The answer is almost certainly: buy
> a pcmcia modem.  AFAIK, there is no support for MWave devices in linux,
> mainly because IBM/(what is their name ?) won't provide documentaion
> without lots of legal/economic strings.
> 
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Re: Debian max file size is 1GB instead of 2GB?

[John Goerzen]

Steve Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> I don't think it is the kernel (unless, it's due to a specific
> configuration option in the kernel?)  I tried it on 2.0.33 and 2.1.78,
> same result on both:
> 
> lilu# ls -l xxx
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1073741824 Jan 25 15:36 xxx
> lili# uname -a
> Linux lili.eecs.umich.edu 2.1.78 #1 Wed Jan 21 06:44:08 EST 1998 i686 unknown
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas on what the issue is and how to fix the
> problem for those of us stuck at the 1GB limit?

I would suggest mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the
linux-kernel mailing list served by majordomo).  They might be able to 
help.

> 
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Re: xemacs 20.3 slow load

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On my P166 (64 meg RAM) it takes about 20 seconds.  Strange, on a BSDi 
P133 it takes about 5-10 seconds and that machine has less memory.  I
suspect our Xemacs is loading a bunch of unneeded stuff but I don't
know for sure.  You might want to mail our xemacs maintainer about this.

Gerald Wann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi -
> 
> I am experimenting with xemacs 20.3 on debian linux 2.0.29 machine
> w/ AMD K6 200MHz / 32M RAM. It takes xemacs about a full minute
> to load in xwindows. Anyone else experience such a prolonged load
> wait, or is it just me (& 20.3 ;-)?
> 
> Thanks
> Jerry
> 
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Re: xemacs 20.3 slow load

[John Goerzen]

That doesn't sound right.

You should have something like:

127.0.0.1   zeropoint.your.domain   zeropoint
127.0.0.1   localhost

(Also try flipping those lines around.)

Also, what does hostname and hostname -f report?

Gerald Wann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >
> >   > I am experimenting with xemacs 20.3 on debian linux 2.0.29 machine
> >   > w/ AMD K6 200MHz / 32M RAM. It takes xemacs about a full minute
> >   > to load in xwindows. Anyone else experience such a prolonged load
> >   > wait, or is it just me (& 20.3 ;-)?
> >
> >Usually the problem with *really* slow emacs loading is that your
> >hostname is set incorrectly.  It will wait a long time trying to
> >resolve a bad hostname.  Add your hostname to /etc/hosts to fix.
> >
> Hi -
> 
> I've tried the following (single) lines in my etc/hosts file -
> 
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
>   OR
> 127.0.0.1 zeropoint   // where zeropoint is what is reported by hostname
>   OR
> 127.0.0.1 zeropoint   localhost
> 
> and noticed very little if any improvement in xemacs load speed? I'm probably
> making a silly mistake, but it's not immediately obvious to me what it is.
> Ideas?
> 
> 
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Re: lprm says "Permission denied" (fwd)

[John Goerzen]

But that still doesn't solve the problem of viewing the Unix print queue
from within Windows.  That works with regular lpr, but not lprng.

   On Mar 5, Craig Sanders wrote:

> but that's not necessary at all. with samba, printers listed in
> /etc/printcap appear on the Win3/Win95/etc machines printer list (this
> is the default for the debian package - you can turn it off if you like)
> - Win users can select it and print to it just like any other printer.
> 
> Here's an excerpt of relevant parts from my /etc/smb.conf file which
> works on my network.
> 
> [global]
>printing = lprng
>load printers = yes
> 
> [printers]
>comment = All Printers
>browseable = no
>path = /tmp
>printable = yes
>public = no
>writable = no
>create mode = 0700
> 
> Once you've set this up, you should be able to see the linux box's
> printer(s) in Network Neighbourhood on the Win95 machines. Can't
> remember what the Win3 equivalent is, but the linux printers show up on
> Win3 too.
> 
> I have samba, lprng, and magic-filter installed.  it works brilliantly.
> 
> craig
> 
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> There is a hylafax package in experimental packaged by me needing work.
> Look through the archive of debian-devel. Someone else wanted to take it
> on.
> 
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> 
> > There had been several people mentioning they'd make a package from it. Who
> > finally took it now?
> > 
> > Reason: I do need a central faxserver here, and might contribute some work
> > do testing...
> > 
> > Nils
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> > 
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Re: /etc/alternatives -- Why?

[John Goerzen]

> 
> What is the /etc/alternatives directory for.  I mean, what's the
> philosophy behind it?
> 
> Thanks
> Paul Serice
> 

It lets people have two programs with the same name on the system at once.

Examples:
 nvi, vim, etc: install as vi
 xemacs, emacs: both install as emacs

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Re: can Linux r/w Windoze FAT32?

[John Goerzen]

Yes.  And it also supports long filenames on those partitions.

> Hi,
> 
> Having benefited greatly from this list before, I do not doubt for a 
> moment that someone will know the answer to this:
> 
> Does Linux read/write to the new Win95 Fat32 filesystem?
> 
> thanks in advance.
> 
> -alex
> 

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Re: Live filesystem on CDs

[John Goerzen]

> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hmm, just an observation here.  (Not necessarily directed at you, Mike.)
> > Are *all* packages that are compressed with gzip compressed with gzip -9?
> > Including all .orig.tar.gz files, .diff.gz, etc.?  If not, this may be a
> > way to save some space for now.
> 
> The gzip call for these files is done by dpkg-source, so the gzip
> options are determined by dpkg-source and not by the developer.

Right, this is kinda what I'm getting at.  dpkg-source, debstd, etc. should 
all be using -9.

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Re: lprm says "Permission denied" (fwd)

[John Goerzen]

This is *not* an acceptable fix.  Other packages, for isntance Samba, will 
**NOT** work with lprng.

> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> Much Deleted.
> 
> > 
> > The real fix seems to go to lprng. That's the official position of the
> > maintainer as well, as stated in a msg. to this list last year. I'll
> > do it as soon as I have a chance.
> > 
> 
> If the recommended fix (by the package maintainer even) is to switch from 
> lpr to lprng, shouldn't lpr be switched out of Standard and lprng moved 
> from Optional into Standard?
> 
> I just happen to be having some problems setting up lpr as well.  I think 
> I'll switch to lprng before spending any more time.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> > Carlos
> > 
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Re: lprm says "Permission denied" (fwd)

[John Goerzen]

> John Goerzen writes:
> > This is *not* an acceptable fix.  Other packages, for isntance Samba, will 
> > **NOT** work with lprng.
> 
> Why won't samba not work with it? Please file an appropriate bug against
> the samba package.

Because Samba depends on the output formats of the lp* commands, in particular, 
lpq.  It parses the output and converts it to the format suitable for 
displaying to Windows users.

Since LPRNG's lpq is different that LPR's lpq output, samba cannot parse it 
correctly. 
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Re: lprm says "Permission denied" (fwd)

[John Goerzen]

   On Mar 2, Craig Sanders wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, Scott Stanley wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 1 Mar 1997, John Goerzen wrote:
> > 
> > > This is *not* an acceptable fix. Other packages, for isntance Samba,
> > > will **NOT** work with lprng.
> >
> > This is nice to know
> 
> actually, it's completely untrue.  samba works very well with lprng.
> 
> i've got it running on my system, using lprng & magicfilter with samba.
> no problems.  it works.

Not in my experience.  I also tried lprng, magicfilter, and samba.  I found
the same "nonprintable" option and turned it off.  The Win95 box appeared to
print correctly, BUT it could NOT view the print queue, delete sent jobs,
etc.  With lpr instead of lprng, the Win95 box could do all of that like it
is supposed to be able to.

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Re: 56k baud modem (x2)

[John Goerzen]

I don't know why not.  There is nothing different about the modem <->
computer interface, AFAIK.

   On Mar 2, Gregory Vence wrote:

> Is the 56kb USRupgrade compatible with linux?  I tired of 14.4. :)
> 
> Thanx -- Greg.

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Re: lprm says "Permission denied" (fwd)

[John Goerzen]

I had tried the first item you suggested before reverting back to normal
lpr, I do recall.  I also seem to remember that in some of Samba's
documentation, the lprng option was mentioned, while in other areas where
the options for printing were listed, lprng was not mentioned.

I do not recall if I tried the second thing, but lpq, lprm, and lpr all
worked fine from the local box, and lpr worked from Win95.  If somebody
could print, I would think that they would also have permission to view the
queue.

   On Mar 3, Craig Sanders wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, John Goerzen wrote:
> 
> > > i've got it running on my system, using lprng & magicfilter with   .
> > > samba no problems. it works.
> >
> > Not in my experience. I also tried lprng, magicfilter, and samba. I
> > found the same "nonprintable" option and turned it off. The Win95 box
> > appeared to print correctly, BUT it could NOT view the print queue,
> > delete sent jobs, etc. With lpr instead of lprng, the Win95 box could
> > do all of that like it is supposed to be able to.
> 
> a couple of things that might help:
> 
> 1.  check your /etc/smb.conf.  Does it have a line like:
> 
> printing = lprng
> 
> in the [global] section
> 
> see man pages for samba and smb.conf - samba has specific support for
> lprng.
> 
> 
> 2.  check your /etc/lpd.perms - you may not have set up the permissions
> correctly to allow the win95 box to see the queue and/or delete jobs.
> 
> 
> craig

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Re: cdwrite / hybrid cd's

[John Goerzen]

You might check into the cdrecord program.  Also, there is a list at
pixar.com (cdwrite or cdrecord list or some such) that may be of use.

Steve Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there any way to make a hybrid CD on Linux?  I guess cdwrite just
> writes an image file onto the CD, so the question is if it is possible to
> create that hybrid (mac / iso) file?
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
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Who's using Debian?

[John Goerzen]

Hi,

I thought it might be a neat idea to make a webpage listing some of
the people that use Debian and what they use it for.  So, if you are
using Debian, reply to this e-mail (privately to me at
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are using it for, and if you have a web address, give me that too.
I'll add you to my page and add a link to your site as well.

I know there are people out there using Debian for some impressive
things  Help us spread the word about what Debian can do!

BTW, the page is at http://happy.cs.twsu.edu/~jgoerzen/Debian/users.html

I'll probably also make a mirror of it somewhere...

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Debian install on multiple machines

[John Goerzen]

Hello,

What is the easiest way to install an identical set of packages on multiple
machines?  That is, at install time, I want it to select the same packages
to install, rather than manually having to select packages on each machine.

Thanks,
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Re: xdm???

[John Goerzen]

"Jonathan B. Leffert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I installed the xbase package from unstable/ as well as a lot of other X
> packages.  I have X working fine, but I cannot seem to get xdm to work.
> When I do a /etc/init.d/xdm start as root, xdm loads as a process, but the
> X login prompt never appears.  Anyone know how to get this to work?

Did you check /var/log/xdm-errors?  That is the first place to check
in the event of trouble.

Secondly, did you try to start xdm when you already had an X session
running?  If so, that is a mistake.

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Re: making 16bpp the default in X

[John Goerzen]

Douglas L Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What do I need to do to make 16 bpp the default in X?

You can edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config and remove all the other modes.
If you are running xdm, you can edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and add
-bpp 16 to the command line.  If you are using startx or xinit, you
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Re: Non-interactive modem hangup

[John Goerzen]

Just killing pppd will do it unless your modem isn't set up properly.



<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anyone know a simple command or tool to hang up the modem? Just
> hang it up, not stay connected to the tty and await more commands.
> 
> What I'm after is something simple I can put into a script for sudo
> to kill the ppp daemon and also hang up the line, freeing /dev/ttyS1
> immediately (rather than waiting for the ISP to idle out the line and
> hang up on me).
> 
> The first part I've got figured out --
> 
> start-stop-daemon --stop --verbose --exec /usr/sbin/pppd
> 
> But there has to be an easier way to hang up the modem than writing a
> chat script or something like that.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas?
> 
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Re: Non-interactive modem hangup

[John Goerzen]

Look for an option something like:
 * Drop carrier on DTR low
 * Disconnect on DTR low

If I remember correctly, it is an AT&Dx command, but I'm not
completely sure.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 7 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote:
> 
> > Just killing pppd will do it unless your modem isn't set up properly.
> 
> Then my modem isn't set up properly.  I got a private email mentioning
> something about how the modem should automatically hangup once DTR is
> dropped, which happens if "modem" is given as an option to pppd.  It is in
> my case, so the problem lies with my modem.
> 
> I've got a Hayes Accura 144B + FAX, so once I dig up the manual I'll come
> back to the list with my solution.
> 
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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

[John Goerzen]

I've had nothing but good luck with Seagate and Western Digital.
Conner, I agree has horrible problems.

Simon Karpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Right now, my personal system has a Micropolis Stinger (5400rpm 4.3GB,
> Ultra SCSI), and hasn't had any problems. The drive is a bit noisy, but
> seems to be very solid. I've never had any real problems with Quantum drives,
> but I can say to stay away from any form of Conner/Seagate/Western Digital
> drives. The failure rates are *horrible*. I've also heard many good things
> about the recent IBM drives.
> 
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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

[John Goerzen]

Simon Karpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Which WD drives have you had good luck with?
> 
> I have yet to see a recent one last more than a year...

I have several (3) old Caviar drives.  One is a 170 meg and the other
two are 540 meg.  One is six years old; the other, probably about 5;
and the third is about the same.  All worked fine for at least the
first 4-5 years of their life even though they were powered up
24/7/365.  The 170 developed some bad sectors about 1/2 year ago; the
younger 540 meg had the same problem at about the same time.  The
5-year-old 540 meg is still going strong.

Considering that they were all cheap IDE drives, originally installed
in a poorly-ventilated case, it is not bad.

John

> 
> --Simon
> 
> On 10 Oct 1997, John Goerzen wrote:
> 
> > I've had nothing but good luck with Seagate and Western Digital.
> > Conner, I agree has horrible problems.
> > 
> > Simon Karpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Right now, my personal system has a Micropolis Stinger (5400rpm 4.3GB,
> > > Ultra SCSI), and hasn't had any problems. The drive is a bit noisy, but
> > > seems to be very solid. I've never had any real problems with Quantum 
> > > drives,
> > > but I can say to stay away from any form of Conner/Seagate/Western Digital
> > > drives. The failure rates are *horrible*. I've also heard many good things
> > > about the recent IBM drives.
> > > 
> > > Simon Karpen  
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Booting to SCSI

[John Goerzen]

Hey everyone!

Simple (hopefully) question.  I've got an IDE drive on an Tyan
motherboard with an Award BIOS.  I recently went out and bought a
Seagate Cheetah drive on a Symbios Logic (aka NCR) 53c875 host adapter
(an AWESOME combination, BTW )  How do I make the system boot from
the SCSI drive instead of the IDE drive?

Yes, I know I can make the LILO in the MBR of the IDE drive point to
the Linux partition on the SCSI drive, and I have done this; but I
would perfer a better solution.


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Re: A quickie on telnet

[John Goerzen]

You might try the netcat program, it is specifically designed for this
and is (yipee!) a Debian package.

Mike Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Very simply, I'm trying to telnet to a site and get some data from a script.
> In HPUX, I would do this:
> 
> echo "Alinetobesent" | telnet an.address.com 1234
> 
> And it would happily telnet to the machine and echo the command, getting me
> the results I wanted. This doesn't seem to work under any of the shells I 
> could find installed in DEBIAN, or any odd variation I could come up with.
> 
> Any ideas, or do I have to re-write in C using sockets (bleah)?
> 
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Re: CDR drive replacement.

[John Goerzen]

Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have used Philips CDRs exclusively and have not been satisfied. For the
> usual reasons, I am replacing my current CDR and want something that will
> last a while. I can get an "HP SureStore CD-Writer 6020" for a
> "reasonable" price. I am curious if anyone has had any first hand
> experience with this device? Is it encouraging? I would consider other
> options if they fall in the catagory of "cheap" (cost effective) and
> dependable, while at the same time available quickly through mail order
> using a credit card.

I have the HP SureStore 6020i drive.  As its model number suggests, it
is 6x read, 2x write.

For writing, I use the cdrecord program.  It works flawlessly, even
writing multi-session CDs and it even works from a master on an IDE
drive.

cwrite also works with this drive, BUT...  it won't do multisession,
and it is much, much more system-intensive than cdrecord is.  cdwrite
barely works with an IDE drive at 1x record speed; cdrecord easily
works with my IDE drive at 2x record speed.

For reading, you need to do a tad bit more up-front.  It will read
normal CDs without any problem.  However, you must patch the kernel to
get the drive to read multi-session CDs.  Once the kernel is so
patched, however, it is able to read multi-session CDs without any
difficulty at all.  (Actually, this patch is included in 2.1.x and
maybe even in 2.0.30 but I know it isn't in 2.0.29.)

I have had good luck with this drive with all sorts of various media.
I have not experienced any problems with data loss on any media, as
sometimes occurs with CDR drives.  I have used both the genuine HP
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CD recording question

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Hi,

I am looking for a good program to read audio from an audio CD and
store it in a file suitable for later recording.  I am aware of the
cdda2wav program, which will generate WAV files that then need to be
converted back to cdr format by a program like sox.  But surely there
has to be an easier and better way to do it.  Converting to wavs and
back seems rather cumbersome.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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Re: CD recording question

[John Goerzen]

Unfortunately not.  This being an audio CD and not a data one, that
doesn't work :-(

Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > cdda2wav program, which will generate WAV files that then need to be
> > converted back to cdr format by a program like sox.  But surely there
> > has to be an easier and better way to do it.  Converting to wavs and
> > back seems rather cumbersome.
> 
> As a wild guess, does `dd if=/dev/ of=raw.cd.image', or
> something along those lines, work?
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Re: fat32 in installation vfat module?

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Matt Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm interested in submitting a 'Beginner's Debian Installation Guide' of
> some sort.  I have about 80% of the framework of one completed, but am
> concerned about the lack of fat32 support.  As is stands, if someone has a
> new computer formatted in fat32, they would have to format a fat16
> partition to download the packages into.  the vfat module in the

Not correct.  In no case do you have to download the packages onto a
non-Debian partition.  dselect can automatically grab the packages you
need on-the-fly via PPP, Ethernet, Token Ring, or whatever network
system you have.  There is no need to download them beforehand; in
fact, doing so will probably be much more difficult.

> installation process won't allow a fat32 partition to be mounted and the
> base-install doesn't have full ppp support for dialup.
> 
> I'm afraid I'm no programmer, I'm a user trying to learn as much as I can
> and help out, if possible.  I don't know how difficult it would be to make
> the installation vfat module fat32 compliant.  I would, however, like to
> submit a document for review.
> 
> Should I submit one based on the current situation, or could the module be
> 'patched'?  I would be very appreciative to hear any opinion on this, and
> how such a document might be received.
> 
> TIA for your consideration :)
> 
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Re: fat32 in installation vfat module?

[John Goerzen]

Matt Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was under the impression that the base install doesn't come with full
> PPP support (it says this during installation).  After the base install
> (from floppy), you still are unable to dialup.  If you could dialup, that
> would, of course, solve everything.

It does now come with PPP support.  You just have to know how to
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Video capture boards and Linux

[John Goerzen]

Does Debian/Linux support any video capture boards?  If so, what
software is needed and what boards are supported?

Thanks,
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Debian over NFS

[John Goerzen]

Hello,

I am wondering how to set up systems in this way:

 * A Debian server, with a large hard disk, with a fairly full install of
   Debian.
 * Multiple Debian client machines, with small hard disks (often 100 meg or
   less).  I'd like to mount, at minimum, /usr from the Debian server.
   /usr should be mounted over NFS in read-only mode.

My questions are:
 * How do I go about installing packages on the client?  I would assume
   that I install packages in the normal way on the server, but that
   wouldn't update the client's /etc directory.  However, I do not want to
   try to install on the client since it would fail if it tries to write
   anything in /usr.
 * How do I remove packages?  Again, if I remove from the server, there
   may still be files left in the client's /etc and /var directories.
 * What is the suggested method for going about this?


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Re: BIG NetScape Bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (fwd)

[John Goerzen]

Let's not over-react, please.  This bug *only* allows people to see
files that the user running Netscape has access to, and *only* if it
already knows the names of these files.  On a Debian 1.3 machine,
which uses shadow passwords, essentially the only thing that would be
of use for people would be files in your home directory.  And since
there are no predictable patterns for these files, it would be
difficult to construct a web page that would cause serious harm.

George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Better take this SERIOUSLY folks, it is a VERY big bug ... major security
> hole.  It allows a server to see EVERYTHING on the client filesystem.
> 
> 
> George Bonser
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> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:06:45 -0500
> From: Francisco Benavides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: BIG NetScape Bug1
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> A HUGE flaw was uncovered in the new NetScape, for more details:
> 
> http://cnnfn.com/digitaljam/9706/12/netscape_pkg/
> 
> Bye/Francisco :)
> 
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Re: Will ATI 3D Rage chips work with XFree86?

[John Goerzen]

FYI, I am running an ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV 8meg card (3D Rage
II-based) and it works very nicely (although the TV output doesn't yet
work under Linux.)

Raja R Harinath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Michael Tempsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On 15 May, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> > Re: R. Chris Ross wrote:
> > Re: >  I wondered if the D3 Rage chip set boards would work with
> > Re: > XFree86.  They are supposed to be quite hot and someone offered to
> > Re: > trade me a Wincharge for one even up.
> > Re: 
> > Re: Maybe I should grab the new 3D GPT once the chipset is supported in
> > Re: XFree?
> > 
> > If my memories are correctl then the 3D Rage _is_ supported in XFree 3.2
> > and the 3D Rage II in XFree 3.2A...
> 
> >From the XFree86[tm] 3.3 Release Notes:
> 
> 3.11  Mach64 server
> 
>o Support for 3D Rage II based Mach64 cards is included.
> 
>o Various problems with support for some revisions of CT, VT and GT 
> chipsets
>  have been fixed.
> 
>o It is strongly recommended that all users with CT, VT, GT and 3D Rage II
>  based Mach64 cards upgrade to the 3.3 release due to the problems that
>  were fixed.
> 
> > 3.2A is not available as a .deb package, but I've seen several reports
> > of people simply replacing the Mach64 Xserver binary from 3.2 with the
> > one from 3.2A. Haven't tried this myself, but did do a similar thing
> > under Slackware last fall (3.1.2->3.1.2F) so it'd seem reasonable...
> 
> XFree86 3.3 should be available in `unstable' real soon now, as soon as
> Mark Eichin feels it's right.
> 
> - Hari
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Re: BIG NetScape Bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (fwd)

[John Goerzen]

George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My concern was for someone running Netscape as root.

This should never occur.  People should not run Netscape as root.
(In a nutshell: Java   The thought of running unknown programs as
root should send a shiver down your spine...)

> And thirdly, since the linux versions that have been "released" are
> unsupported, it is possible that there will not be patched "releases" of
> the earlier versions.  This concenrs me if the exploit is made public
> after the patched release of the supported versions.

There have already been exploits made public on Bugtraq, I believe.

And once Communicator for Linux is officially released, we won't have
to worry about it any more.

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Re: Anyone has seen this before?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eloy A. Paris) writes:

> Jun 19 11:36:11 zeus kernel: Current error sr0b:00: sense key Medium Error
> Jun 19 11:36:11 zeus kernel: Additional sense indicates L-ec uncorrectable 
> error
> Jun 19 11:36:11 zeus kernel: CD-ROM I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 660128
> 
> What's happening here? Is my NCR83C510 SCSI adapter going to die or I need
> to trash the CD I was reading and the hard disk with bad sectors?

I don't think your SCSI controller is the problem.  Most likely hard
drive problems.  Check that you have the latest driver and give the
FreeBSD driver a shot.  Make sure you have no cabling problems (long
cable runs, etc).

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Re: Netscape bug: Newbies using root

[John Goerzen]

It is stated very clearly in documentation all over that you should
run as root as little as possible...  Besides, it is common sense.
When I first taught myself Unix, this was impressed on me very
clearly.  The Linux NAG and SAG mention it, I'm sure, as do some
various HOWTOs.

BG Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I agree that nobody shoudl be using root. But for newbies its hard having
> to learn Unix adn system admin at the same time. By using root, you avoid
> all the 'Permission denied' messages.
> 
> 
> BG
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Re: Quotas & AMD

[John Goerzen]

Did you enable quota support in the kernel on both the client *AND*
the NFS server?

I work with a Debian machine with just such a setup, and there are no
real problems there

Felix Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   Does anybody know how I can configure my network in order to let the
> users know their disk quotas? The problem is that the quota command
> doesn't show the quota values, it only shows them when the user is logged
> on the server.
> 
>   I'm using the AMD to mount the home directories by NFS on the clients.
> I've read all of documents related to quotas, but with no success...
> 
>   Also, I've noted that when I mount the home directories by hand (without
> AMD), using NFS of course, the users can see their disk quotas normaly,
> but I really don't know why. 
> 
>   Please help-me. :-)
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Felix Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: setting & switching screen densities

[John Goerzen]

Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:
> 
> > stealth vram (#124), which is an S3.  I've set it for 432 under 8 bits,
> > and 32 under 16 (1mb vram).  But it seems to insist that the higher
> > density modes don't exist.  It's startup messages (the ones that are
> > left) annnouce 
> > 
> > (--) there is no mode definition mamed "1024x768"
> > (--) removing mode "1024X768": from list of valid modes"
> > 
> > then again for 800x600.
> > 
> > What am I doing wrong?

Look: "1024x768" is not the same as "1024X768".

> easiest way is to edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file.  Mine looks like:

Better: edit XF86Config and specify a default color depth.


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Re: setting & switching screen densities

[John Goerzen]

"E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This looks like something similar to what I experienced with XF86Setup.
> It goes like this: running XF86Setup, the program determines the modes
> with the best refresh rates for my monitor/video card combination.
> Seems OK, but it does so _for_256_colors_.  When I then switch to 16 bit
> color, the modes in XF86Config with resolution higher than 800x600 get
> deleted, because the video card cannot supply these refresh rates.
> Solution: pretend that your monitor cannot handle high vertical refresh
> rates in XF86Setup, and the defined modes will have low enough refresh
> rates for the video card to cope with.  The older xf86config program
> used to provide a lot more modes apparently.  Has anyone noticed this
> before?

Yes, although I had not identified the cause like you have.

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Re: BIG NetScape Bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (fwd)

[John Goerzen]

Yes, that is true.  This is precisely why this is not such a big deal
for us, although it may be for people running Windows...

Jim Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 19 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote:
> 
> > Let's not over-react, please.  This bug *only* allows people to see
> > files that the user running Netscape has access to, and *only* if it
> > already knows the names of these files.  On a Debian 1.3 machine,
> > which uses shadow passwords, essentially the only thing that would be
> > of use for people would be files in your home directory.  And since
> > there are no predictable patterns for these files, it would be
> > difficult to construct a web page that would cause serious harm.
> 
> NT and Win95 users are at risk since the OS is typically loaded into the 
> default directories and files such as those containing passwords are 
> susceptible to being accessed. Recommendation from NS is to turn off Java 
> Script and set the warn of sending secure data option until the patched 
> versions are released.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jim
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Re: BIG NetScape Bug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (fwd)

[John Goerzen]

George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > 
> > And once Communicator for Linux is officially released, we won't have
> > to worry about it any more.
> 
> And exactly how is the release of Communitcator going to fix the systems
> running 3.01?

There's this thing called an "Upgrade", you know

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Re: Xlib3.3 server probs

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Jean Pierre LeJacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Brian Skreeg wrote:
> 
> > Only the user that  runs the xserver (startx) can run apps on it
> > any attempt to run an app by another user is refused. eg below;
> 
> Yes I've noticed this problem as well.
> 
> Two solutions.  You can allow any user to run apps by executing:
> 
>   xhosts +

Ick, ick, ouch!  NEVER do that!

> 
> The second solution is to add specific users to your .Xauthority file
> using the xauth program.  See man pages for details.
> 
> This solves the problem for me.
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Re: modem hang up

[John Goerzen]

Your ISP is probably the one that is doing this, not Linux.

"A.D.Y. Cheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am running PPP connecting to my ISP. However, after connecting, if I
> leave the connection idle for about half an hour, the modem will hang up
> itself which I do not really want. Can somebody point out to me how to
> turn off this feature?
> 
> Thanks for help in advance !
> 
> Anthony
> 
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Re: X11 Problems

[John Goerzen]

This is a known problem, I believe.  Check the info under the
disks-i386 directory -- I think there is a file in there that mentions
this.

FYI, you should try this, as root on the console:

shadowconfig off
shadowconfig on



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> I have just installed the X11 graphical windows program, at the same time
> as upgrading from debian 1.2 -> 1.3.  It all worked fine at the time, and
> I selected to have X11 coming up automatically on start-up.  However, I
> have just rebooted my machine, and after the usual linux start-up
> messages, it came up with the login window in X11.  I entered 'root' as
> user name, and my password (I need to make linux bootable from
> hard-drive), but kept getting login incorrect.  (I installed shadow
> passwords when upgrading to 1.3, if this has any effect).  Is there a way
> I can get linux to boot-up without starting X11 (preferably without
> resorting to the rescue disk), and/or change my password?  Is the problem
> that you can't login to X11 as root?
> 
> Cheers
> Rich.
> 
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Re: modem hang up

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Many ISPs have policy against such a thing, so be careful before you
do it.

Udjat -Whoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ping you host once in a while.
> 
> ping -i 500 xyz.com > /dev/null &
> 
> see ping man page.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, A.D.Y. Cheng wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I am running PPP connecting to my ISP. However, after connecting, if I
> > leave the connection idle for about half an hour, the modem will hang up
> > itself which I do not really want. Can somebody point out to me how to
> > turn off this feature?
> > 
> > Thanks for help in advance !
> > 
> > Anthony
> > 
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Re: X newreader

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I like GNUS from XEMACS.

Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anyone know of a good X based news reader?  Does not have to be a Debian
> package.
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Re: [Common Lisp] I'm working on the clisp package...

[John Goerzen]

How does this differ from gcl (GNU Common Lisp)?

Thanks,
John Goerzen

Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The new version of clisp was released today from it's upstream source.
> I'm going to package it for debian,  probably this weekend.  If you use
> clisp (or are likely to use it),  please let me know if you think the
> following modules are appropriate:
>   CLX (common lisp X-interface)
>   STDWIN (standard windowing toolkit)
>   READLINE (i'm using this instead of newreadline because it's
>   been better tested)
> 
>   Any opinions would be appreciated.  The windowing toolkits,  in
> particular,  seem to increase the size of the binary significantly,  but
> I'm assuming that if you're doing a lot of lisp development you're
> probably not overly concerned with disk efficiency anyway...
> 
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Re: Netscape ?

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"Michael Legart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi !
> 
> > Please use the netscape installer package from Debian. It will integrate
> > netscape in your Debian GNU/Linux Box.
> 
> Erhm... where do I get that package ? As far as I can see, isn't it 
> uncludet in the distribution.

Yes it is.  Type "/netscape" and press Enter and it will take you
right to it.

> 
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Re: integrate X-programms

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"Darin D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > finally I have now Debian installed after putting a simple "/" to the
> > question were is my top level located. Now I wonder why the X-Server
> > doesn't run (3D Virge) although I installed the particiular server, just
> > it runs in vga16 mode. How can I configure X? (xconfig or make xconfig
> > doesn't work)
> 
> Make sure you install the "xbase" package as well, as it contains a
> program xbase-config which will make your XF86Config file.  (i think it is
> called that - someone may need to correct me here)

There are two configuration programs:
 * xf86config, a text-based config program
 * XF86Setup, a graphical config program

Sometimes one will work when the other one didn't.

> > As well how can I integrate all X-programms and games on the X-screen?
> > There is currently just the desktop and a shell for input.
> 
> I still haven't figured out how to make custom menus yet.  I do know that
> it involves editing your .Xresources or .Xsession files, something like
> that anyways.

No, you edit your window manager rc file -- .fvwm2rc for instance.

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Re: UW SCSI Card

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I have had good luck with the Symbios Logic (NCR) 8751SP card.  Use
the Linux driver that was ported from FreeBSD (it is in the standard
kernel config menu).

Luis Francisco Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
> I am considering to buy one of these beasts and had thought about AHA 2940UW.
> I was wondering if people had experience with those and/or if there is another
> suggestiong (Buslogic?)
> 
> Thanks,
> Luis.
> 
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Re: offlineimap duplicating emails

[John Goerzen]

On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:51:17PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> [John... I put you on Bcc to be sure you see this. Please forgive
me.]

No problem.  You'll have to continue to CC me, though, since I'm not
on -user.

Some data would be useful:

1. What mail server is being used?

2. Are you using IMAP or Maildir on the local end?  If IMAP, what
   local server?

3. What mail reader are you using?

4. Are you using any other mail programs to access the mail store on
   the server?

After that, it would probably be useful if you could isolate a folder
with just a few messages in it for testing...  send along a dump of -1
-d imap and a ls -lR over your Maildir tree.

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Re: POPmail and procmail

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> When I send a message via locally, over my own network, procmail seems to
> process the file, but when mail comes in via 'popclient' from my ISP, it
> doesn't seem to be running the .forward file.  Does anyone have this same
> situation.  Maybe I am beating my head against a brick wall for nothing.
> OR is there a way to have 'popclient' pass the mail to procmail directly?

The .forward file is only read by sendmail, which is what is used when mail 
comes in over your own network.

My guess is that popclient just appends it messages to your mail spool.  It 
doesn't use sendmail.  You can simulate it, though, by running:

procmail -o spoolfile  other options
cat spoolfile | formail -s procmail
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Re: What's the problem?

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> At random times, I'm simply logged out. And it got really bad
> just a few moments ago. All vt's where were closed down and
> a new login prompt appeared. While this was going on, my hard-drive
> lit up and started spinning like Linux was reading my whole disk
> over and over again. Even when I tried to login and try to ps -ax
> and kill whatever was happening, I could only get as far the the
> motd...no shell prompt...before I was logged back off again.
> I finally had to hit reset and re-boot the computer.

Hmm, I am grasping at straws here, but it seems that perhaps you are the 
victim of somebody hacking in to your system.  You realize that whenever a 
Unix system is on the Net (via PPP or whatever) outsiders can telnet in, FTP 
in, etc. unless you specifically disable those services.

If you don't have good passwords set, this could be the problem.  You may be 
the victim of a a "fork bomb" which basically takes up so much CPU processor 
time and swap space that everything else grinds to a halt...and it would be 
possible for such a thing to cause a logout (the behaviour of *any* OSs when 
all resources are maxed out is generally unpredictable).  First thing you need 
to do is make sure that nobody has access to crontab and that you are not 
running the "at" program (which can let people run these nasty things at 
various scheduled times.)  Then you will probably want to disable allowing 
incoming telnet, rlogin, rsh, ftp, and finger connections.  You can do this by 
editing /etc/inetd.conf file.

Now I may be totally off on this and it could be a different problem.  As I 
said, I am grasping at straws.  But it won't hurt you to make your system a 
bit mroe secure anyway :-)


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Problems with Talk under Debian

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Hello,

I have been having problems with talk and ytalk under Linux.  Any help would
be greatly appreciated!

Both programs work fine when trying to talk to somebody else on the local
machine.

When trying to use talk or ytalk to talk to somebody on a remote system,
neither program works.

Talk just locks up displaying "[Checking for invitation on caller's
machine]".  Ytalk complains of " find_daemon: recv() failed Connection
refused" and then complains "sendit: recv() failed Connection refused".

On IRC #linux, somebody told me that there might be a problem in /etc/hosts,
but did not know what the problem might be.

I am using PPP and have dynamic IP addressing.  My system also is
UUCP-connected, so for the purposes of things like hostname, it is known as
"complete.org" (the domain name used for news, mail, etc.)  Everything seems
to work OK -- IRC, News, etc.  But not talk.

So I hope that somebody here can help me.  I have tried setting localhost to
127.0.0.0 but that seems to break more things than it fixes.  People have
told me that everything else is supposed to be 127.0.0.0 so I did that.

Here is my /etc/hosts file:

127.0.0.0   complete.orgcomplete
127.0.0.1   localhost

# These below are rarely used.

127.0.0.0   centre.complete.org centre
127.0.0.0   mail.complete.org   mail
127.0.0.0   news.complete.org   news

# Some other irrelevant stuff trimmed.

My /etc/hostname contains the word "complete".  This file is fed to the
hostname program at boot time by using hostname --file.

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Cron doesn't start

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[This message has also been posted.]

Hello everyone,

I have recently installed Debian on a machine and for some reason cron
doesn't start up automatically.  As a temporary fix, I have put
``/etc/init.d/cron start'' in my /etc/init.d/boot file, but I know that this
is not how it should be.

This is Debian 1.2

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Cron doesn't start

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> Instead, do "update-rc.d cron defaults".
> 
> This is in the "Debian-1.2 installation problems list" posted here by Dale
> Scheetz.

OK.  That worked!

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Re: Fw: Novell and Linux

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> > anybody know if a Novell client exist for Linux.

What you want may be in the Linux kernel itself; the below comes from the
Kernel documentation.

This is support for the Novell networking protocol, IPX, commonly
used for local networks of Windows machines. You need it if you want
to access Novell Netware file or print servers using the Linux
Novell client ncpfs (available via ftp (user: anonymous) from
sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/Filesystems/) or from within the
Linux DOS emulator dosemu (read the DOSEMU-HOWTO, available in
sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO). In order to do the former,
you'll also have to say Y to "NCP filesystem support", below. To
turn your Linux box into a fully featured Netware file server and
IPX router, say Y here and fetch either lwared from
sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/Network/daemons/ or mars_nwe from
ftp.gwdg.de:/pub/linux/misc/ncpfs. For more information, read the
IPX-HOWTO in sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/howto. The IPX driver
would enlarge your kernel by about 5 kB. This driver is also
available as a module ( = code which can be inserted in and removed
from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile
it as a module, say M here and read Documentation/modules.txt.
Unless you want to integrate your Linux box with a local Novell
network, say N.

NCP (NetWare Core Protocol) is a protocol that runs over IPX and is
used by Novel NetWare clients to talk to file servers. It is to IPX
what nfs is to tcp/ip, if that helps. Enabling this option allows
you to mount NetWare file server volumes and to access them just
like any other Unix directory. For details, please read the file
Documentation/filesystems/ncpfs.txt in the kernel source and the
IPX-HOWTO on sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/howto.  If you want to
compile this as a module ( = code which can be inserted in and
removed from the running kernel whenever you want), say M here and
read Documentation/modules.txt.

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Re: emergency action

[John Goerzen]

> > im curious, being not so familiar with debian as i am with solaris, if i
> > somehow edit a file which on reboot, prevents my debian box from
> > rebooting, is there a way to get back into the box and edit out my
> > changes?
> Well, you just do the same thing you would for Solaris, except that
> instead of a CD you have to boot with you have disks. Debian also

As long Lilo, fstab, and the kernel have not been messed up, you can also do 
this without having to use disks.

When the LILO prompt appears, press a shift key.  Then type "Linux -emergency" 
and it should take you to the shell prompt.

You may also try "Linux 1" if Linux -emergency doesn't work.

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Re: Sony cdu31a problem

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> I'm trying to install Debian 1.2 off of the Dec. InfoMagic CDs.  After
> typing in "cdu31a=0x340" at the boot prompt, the kernel recognizes the CD
> drive, but there isn't an entry in /dev.  It's easy enough to create one,
> but I don't know the appropriate major and minor device numbers.  Any
> suggestions?  By the way, the drive is hooked to a Sony controller.

Here's the entry for your reference:

brw-r--r--   1 root root  15,   0 Dec 27 18:23 /dev/sonycd


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Re: Diald Problems....

[John Goerzen]

> Jan 13 09:23:15 sally diald[9849]: PPP network layer died, but link did
> not. Probable configuration error.

I've been getting the same error for quite some time.  Everything seems to 
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Re: Sony cdu31a problem

[John Goerzen]

Hmm, I have installed Debian from a machine with both a CDU31A and a CDU33A 
(the 33A is functionally identical to the 31A).  Neither gave me any problems 
with Debian, although RedHat did have some problems.

> It really was a major number of 15.  Thanks for the help.  So far, only the
> Slackware installation has actually been able to talk to the CD, Red Hat
> and Debian failed.  Now I'll be able to finish installing Debian.
> 
> Minor rant:  It wasn't that long ago that the CDU31A was one of the few CDs
> supported by Linux.  Now, it seems that it's considered "old technology"
> and ignored.  Considering that I'm running on a 33MHz 386, I think that
> older machines still have a lot of life left in them, particularly with Linux.

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Re: PPP and /contrib

[John Goerzen]

> 1)What is the best (easiest) way to get a PPP connection from my
> debian box to my isp via a modem?  Ideally I'd like for it to be like my
> Win95 box (stop throwing things!) and dial on demand when I need Internet,
> and redial if disconnected.  Is this possible?

Yes, just install the diald package.

> 2)  The software in /contrib that is not guaranteed, just how "unsafe"
> is it for use?  I'd really like to put on npasswd-boulder, for example, but
> the warning kinda makes me wonder about what might happen (all passwords get
> mailed to a newsgroup, etc..) :)  Maybe I'm just too paranoid, but I just
> have to ask.

Those packages, generally, are no less safe -- they're just not "officially" 
supported (often due to copyright and/or licensing restrictions).

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Re: Can any one recommend a mailreader...

[John Goerzen]

EXMH is a powerful X-based reader that meats all of your criterion (except 
perhaps filename completion as I am not quite sure exactly what you are 
talking about here).

> other than pine. I would like a simple curses based
> reader that easily allows one to configure the mail to read
> automatically into separate folders depending on
> the address it came from, allows filename completion
> when reading files in or when going to different folders,etc.
> 
> Preferably any configuration should be built into the interface
> itself, i.e. it would be nice to avoid editing a configuration 
> file directly. 
> -Walter
> 
> The system I intend to run it on is the university system running
> slackware.
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Re: Can any one recommend a mailreader...

[John Goerzen]

> While I use Exmh, and I would highly recommend it myself, as far as I 
> can tell, it meets none of the asked for criteria.
> 
> It is Tcl/tk based, not curses, so it requires X.  While it can handle 

Oops, missed that one.  Sorry.

Although it should be noted that MH can be used without X.

> multiple folders and can do automatic sorting, it is best (IMHO) used 
> with slocal or procmail to handle the sorting for you.  Even with its 

Well, as an MH program, that is expected.  It is fully documented. slocal is 
part of MH.

> native sorting, you have to edit an external file to handle the sorting 
> for you.  It doesn't need filename completion because it is all 

I am not aware of a different reader for Unix that does automatic filtering 
without editing an external file.

Anyway, it's very easy to set up.


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Re: dselect for newbies

[John Goerzen]

Well, what I did is just download ppp.deb onto a DOS disk.  Then before 
running dselect after rebooting into Debian for the first time, I just dpkg -i 
the PPP package and start PPP.  dselect is perfectly capable of running very 
nicely in this setting.  Just select FTP as the method, select update, select 
"selecT" if desired, and then go to Install.

Works nicely for me.

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John Goerzen

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Re: setting up authentification for reading news

[John Goerzen]

> my news server requires that I use authentification to identify myself.
> 
> I've been told that a number of windows news readers will do this.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to set this up under linux.

This would depend upon which news reader you are using.  In Tin, you create a 
.newsauth file; in SLRN, it is an entry in .slrnrc.

See the manpages for those programs for more detail.  Search for 
"authentication".
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