Debian wheezy testing - auto printer install
Good day, Installed latest wheezy weekly. I understand it is testing. The printer auto install / manual install does not work. Installed splix - no change. Anything else that should be done? Would like to test OS if printer does work. Thanks JohanS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50a9e309.2050...@telkomsa.net
debian wheezy Beta4
Good day, Two Samsung printers SCX-4623F and ML-1510. Debian wheezy Beta4 does see them but unable to install. I installed splix - no difference. Kindly what else is missing please. Now a days most linux flavours - switch on printer and it install automatically. Thanks JohanS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50bda077.5010...@telkomsa.net
Re: Migrate from Icedove to Thunderbird.
On 09/04/2013 06:43, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: Dear list - How do I migrate my 1] email 2] filters 3] mailboxes 4] address book from Icedove to Thunderbird? Thanks Ethan Good day, Here is a script that I use to migrate from debian to any other OS. But modify it to suit your circumstances. Been doing it for years. By just changing you can do the reverse. From thunderbird to thunderbird is the same just change the hidden file names for the systems. After the transfer when you first time start thunderbird it will check your additions etc. rsync -av /media/johan/trans-3/sam-all/home-all/.icedove/ /home/johan/.thunderbird/ I play around with about five different OS'ses and do this from my "master" OS. Like firefox, gnucash, all other files I would like to transfer. Do this with scripts. Enjoy Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5163a9d9.5050...@telkomsa.net
Re: How to install Debian 7 to external hard disk
On 26/08/2013 13:46, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi, Is there a preferred way to install Debian 7 from DVD to an external (USB) hard disk ? Euh... just install it on that disk? ;-) The whole external hard disk is to be used instead of the internal hard disk. Ok, no problem. This is to experiment with the new release (and discover fish hooks like graphics that don't work) while leaving the internal hard disk with the production Debian 6 on it completely alone. Sensible. One then boots from either the external hard disk or the internal hard disk. Yes and no, but read on. To set this up, at what stage in the install process does one actually put the new release on to the external disk ? When it asks which disk to set it up to and whether you want to do the partitioning yourself (manual) or guided. Does one need to also tell the install program where to put grub ? or does it do that automatically ? You just stated above you have a production version of Debian on the internal disk, so it has Grub already. The new installation on the external disk just needs to be added to the existing Grub config. The installer should do that for you. Is there any other special configuration one needs to do to properly put the new release on to the external hard disk ? Not that I know of. It is vastly preferable not to unplug the internal hard disk or otherwise disrupt the functioning system. No, the installer needs to access the Grub config on that disk. Unplugging it would also change the name of the disks (sda, sdb, etc) and might interfere with the installation or later on with running it, although it should not when using the default disk labels. Of course the internal hard disk will be backed up before the attempted install ... Yes, please do so. ;-) Bonno Bloksma Good day, I have been doing this for years. Run 5 different linux flavours on different usb drives. It works fine. My windows drive is in the laptop. IMPORTEND.. Pick the correct drive and partition to install. Pick the correct drive and mbr to install boot loader. Otherwise it will mes-up your windows mbr. Unless this is where you want to install the boot loader. Enjoy JohanS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/521b48c1@telkomsa.net
debian 6 - latest release - internet connection
Good day, After installing debian 6 it was found that it prefers built in wireless connection on my dsl. The wire connection was inserted and available. The wireless connection works ok at 55% but I would prefer wired connection. Fedora, centos, mandriva prefers wired connection on installation. Could there be a reason for debian's behaviour. Some advice would be appreciated. Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d864eca.8030...@telkomsa.net
Re: debian 6 - latest release - internet connection
On 03/26/2011 08:34 PM, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: Johan Scheepers, 20.03.2011: After installing debian 6 it was found that it prefers built in wireless connection on my dsl. The wire connection was inserted and available. The wireless connection works ok at 55% but I would prefer wired connection. Fedora, centos, mandriva prefers wired connection on installation. Could there be a reason for debian's behaviour. When you say "inserted and available" do you mean just plugged in, or actually working in Debian? Could it be that the wired ethernet card was not recognized and/or no driver was loaded? Does the wired interface work if you turn off the wireless manually? Good day, Was installing debian 6. Went through the fases answer the questions. It whent on and installed about 1200 files without asking the wireless password. Now I think it must have used the wired connection. When I rebooted (first reboot after install) it was found that the wireless connection was used. It will not auto configure eth0. I can not manually configure eth0. I can not answer required questions. Point of interest. Fedora 14 and Mandriva 2010.2 was able to configure and use (1) Wired (2) Wireless and (3) Mobile broad on the same machine. They are all installed on separate external USB drives on same machine.. Just switch cables to boot other distro. When debian 5.06 was used it connected to the wired connection. Did not upgrade (never upgrade) do fresh install always. Something must have changed. Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8ef00a.4080...@telkomsa.net
debian 6.03 KDE desktop
Good day, Running Gnome desktop debian 6.03. Kindly is there a command to add the KDE desktop to a Gnome system. I remember that in Ubuntu there is such a command. On boot up you have a choice to go either way. I have googled but could not get a clear instruction. Some pointers please. Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ec512d1.7010...@telkomsa.net
Re: debian 6.03 KDE desktop
On 17/11/2011 16:27, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:57:37 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: Running Gnome desktop debian 6.03. Kindly is there a command to add the KDE desktop to a Gnome system. I remember that in Ubuntu there is such a command. On boot up you have a choice to go either way. I have googled but could not get a clear instruction. Some pointers please. There is a good FAQ here: Install KDE 4 packages http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html Greetings, Thanks Camaleon, Will install on my test disc and see what happens. Regards Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ec628a1.2040...@telkomsa.net
howto log screen output while booting
Good day, On wheezy testing how can the screen output be logged. There seem to to be a bit problem with some missing modules. Too fast can not read it. The OS is running fine. I am actually impressed. My samsung scx-4624f was installed in seconds after switch on and connected to PC. On other OS,ses and even debian squeeze it took some doing. Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f5756c0.70...@telkomsa.net
Re: howto log screen output while booting
On 07/03/2012 14:51, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 14:38:24 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On wheezy testing how can the screen output be logged. There seem to to be a bit problem with some missing modules. Too fast can not read it. (...) Boot logs go under "/var/log/messages" and "/var/log/boot" (should bootlodg has been enabled). Also, "dmesg|grep module" could also help. Greetings, Thanks , bootlogd enabled but not working. Debian Bug report logs - #564149 <mailto:564...@bugs.debian.org> on squeeze. Seem to be not working in wheezy too
Re: howto log screen output while booting
On 07/03/2012 16:34, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 08:13:50 -0600, hvw59601 wrote: Johan Scheepers wrote: On 07/03/2012 14:51, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 14:38:24 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On wheezy testing how can the screen output be logged. There seem to to be a bit problem with some missing modules. Too fast can not read it. (...) Boot logs go under "/var/log/messages" and "/var/log/boot" (should bootlodg has been enabled). Also, "dmesg|grep module" could also help. Greetings, Thanks , bootlogd enabled but not working. Debian Bug report logs - #564149<mailto:564...@bugs.debian.org> on squeeze. Seem to be not working in wheezy too You can also delay the kernel boot messages by appending "boot_delay=miliseconds" at GRUB's kernel line. Too tecnical for me How about dmesg? Have a lot of output. Works in Wheezy. Yup, it also works here (wheezy). But IIRC, bootlogd fails at a random basis (works on some systems, it doesn't work on others). Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f57a966.2050...@telkomsa.net
Re: howto log screen output while booting
On 07/03/2012 21:52, Wayne Topa wrote: On 03/07/2012 11:34 AM, Wayne Topa wrote: On 03/07/2012 09:13 AM, hvw59601 wrote: Johan Scheepers wrote: On 07/03/2012 14:51, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 14:38:24 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On wheezy testing how can the screen output be logged. There seem to to be a bit problem with some missing modules. Too fast can not read it. (...) Boot logs go under "/var/log/messages" and "/var/log/boot" (should bootlodg has been enabled). Also, "dmesg|grep module" could also help. Greetings, Thanks , bootlogd enabled but not working. Debian Bug report logs - #564149 <mailto:564...@bugs.debian.org> on squeeze. Seem to be not working in wheezy too Works in Wheezy. I thought it was too until I did wtopa@dj:~$ ls -l /var/log/boot* -rw-r- 1 root adm 6.9K Jan 12 13:07 /var/log/boot -rw-r- 1 root adm 6.8K Jan 12 10:50 /var/log/boot.0 -rw-r- 1 root adm 2.0K Jan 12 09:55 /var/log/boot.1.gz -rw-r- 1 root adm 2.0K Jan 11 07:57 /var/log/boot.2.gz -rw-r- 1 root adm 2.0K Jan 10 14:39 /var/log/boot.3.gz -rw-r- 1 root adm 2.0K Jan 10 13:35 /var/log/boot.4.gz wtopa@dj:~$ cat /etc/default/bootlogd # Run bootlogd at startup ? BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes I am seeing the same on sid! ?? wtopa@dj:~$ cat /media/sid/etc/default/bootlogd.dpkg-old # Run bootlogd at startup ? BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes UPDATE Fount the problem. Even though dpkg -l bootlogd said it was installed. some how back in January the bootlogd executable had been removed. Aptitude was able to purge/install the package and the log is now working in wheezy The Sid is somewhat different. I moved the weird bootlogd.dpkg-old to bootlogd and restarted that service and it is now working. I think(?) the problem(s) occurred during the upgrade to bootlogd version 2.88dsf-22, which broke initscripts and sysvinit-utils. Anyway a reinstall on sid fixed it. Wayne Wheezy. I installed bootlogd and now there is information in /var/log/boot. But nothing about the firmware failure/missing. Thats is the info I am looking for. More suggestions please. Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f5855b5.1010...@telkomsa.net
printer driver Samsung SCX4623f
Good day, Got a Samsung SCX 4623f printer. It seems that Debian 6.05 does not have a driver for it. Debian 7 testing, ubuntu 12.04, linux mint 2012.04, installs it automatically. What would be the way to install it. 1) Samsung unified driver ?. 2) Something from the repo' s? Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb22b7d.6000...@telkomsa.net
Re: printer driver Samsung SCX4623f(SOLVED)
On 15/05/2012 18:47, Brian wrote: On Tue 15 May 2012 at 17:36:36 +0100, Lisi wrote: Lenny doesn't have any scx. Squeeze, however, has scx 4200 and scx 4400. I have in the past successfully used the ppd for an earlier model in a series when the later model is not yet available, so it might be worth a try. The snapshot archive has a splix package which should install on stable. The package contains scx4623f.ppd. The OP may see some advantage in this. Thanks to all for your advice. SPLIX on the repo does not work. Googled some more and found this... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341621 http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/ Installed and then updated. Used synaptic package manager to choose the available drivers now on repo.. Installed and printer is working. Cheers, Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb34025.8000...@telkomsa.net
Re: printer driver Samsung SCX4623f(SOLVED)
On 18/05/2012 16:50, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:50:29 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 15/05/2012 18:47, Brian wrote: On Tue 15 May 2012 at 17:36:36 +0100, Lisi wrote: Lenny doesn't have any scx. Squeeze, however, has scx 4200 and scx 4400. I have in the past successfully used the ppd for an earlier model in a series when the later model is not yet available, so it might be worth a try. The snapshot archive has a splix package which should install on stable. The package contains scx4623f.ppd. The OP may see some advantage in this. Thanks to all for your advice. SPLIX on the repo does not work. Then you can open a bug report for that. Googled some more and found this... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341621 http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/ Installed and then updated. Just for the record, what's what you finally installed? samsungmfp-driver-legacy samsungmfp-data Used synaptic package manager to choose the available drivers now on repo.. Installed and printer is working. And what was needed to be updated? :-? apt-get update Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb671cf.9030...@telkomsa.net
Re: Unable to mount [device] Not Authorized
On 02/16/2011 12:05 PM, Michael Tsang wrote: On Wednesday 16 February 2011 16:37:09 Chris wrote: Hi everyone, Since I do a normal update, I can't mount my flash drive from nautilus. It works before. The error message is: Unable to mount [device] Not Authorized Is it something related to PolicyKit? check your permission to this device, change in root if required. johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5bc478.1030...@telkomsa.net
Install Debian 6 with only cell phone mobile modem Huawei E1752
Good day, Due to telephone cable theft I am without landline and my dsl internet connection. When repairs will done unknown. So I have got a Huawei E1752 mobile modem and sim. Now I have a debian 6 cd. That is installed on a 5400 revs sata internal laptop drive while dsl still working. Mobile works fine on existing os. Have ordered debian 6 on 8 dvd's. Done a test install while waiting with only mobile modem. Now install unable to install the internet service due not able to configure DHCP. This installation will now be on a 7400 rev internal laptop drive. Now after install and reboot no networking. Did some google but not correct answers for maybe not correct questions. Kindly please how to install networking from cd or eventually from said dvd's. Maybe stiil not the correct questions? Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e67c1cd.50...@telkomsa.net
Re: Install Debian 6 with only cell phone mobile modem Huawei E1752
On 07/09/2011 21:32, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Op 07-09-11 21:11, Johan Scheepers schreef: Good day, Due to telephone cable theft I am without landline and my dsl internet connection. When repairs will done unknown. So I have got a Huawei E1752 mobile modem and sim. Now I have a debian 6 cd. That is installed on a 5400 revs sata internal laptop drive while dsl still working. Mobile works fine on existing os. Have ordered debian 6 on 8 dvd's. Done a test install while waiting with only mobile modem. Now install unable to install the internet service due not able to configure DHCP. This installation will now be on a 7400 rev internal laptop drive. Now after install and reboot no networking. I expect it will help when you install network-manager. When you are using Gnome, install the package network-manager-gnome, when using KDE install the package network-manager-kde. When using something else, I don't know what to do, maybe tell us what you use. Did some google but not correct answers for maybe not correct questions. Kindly please how to install networking from cd or eventually from said dvd's. You can install from CD or DVD on the same way as you can install from the internet, when you /etc/apt/sources.list file is correct configured. I would install it on a way like this: su # become root, will ask for a password apt-get install network-manager-gnome # install it. If you get an error, paste it to the list. But you can also do it with Synaptic. With regards, Paul. Hi Paul, Here follows the results...sorry a bit long. # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15]/ squeeze main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15]/ squeeze main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb ://volatile.debian.org squeeze-updates main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb-src ://volatile.debian.org squeeze-updates main root@debian:~# apt-get install network-manager-gnome Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package network-manager-gnome root@debian:~# apt-get update Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15] squeeze Release.gpg Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15]/ squeeze/main Translation-en Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15]/ squeeze/main Translation-en_ZA Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15] squeeze Release Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15] squeeze/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex Reading package lists... Done root@debian:~# apt-get install network-manager-gnome Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package network-manager-gnome root@debian:~# cd /media/ root@debian:/media# find /media/cdrom0/ -name "network*" /media/cdrom0/pool/main/n/network-console /media/cdrom0/pool/main/n/network-console/network-console_1.27_amd64.udeb /media/cdrom0/pool/main/p/preseed/network-preseed_1.48_all.udeb root@debian:/media# apt-get install network-console Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package network-console root@debian:/media# -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e67d65f.2030...@telkomsa.net
Re: Install Debian 6 with only cell phone mobile modem Huawei E1752
On 10/09/2011 10:27, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: Johan Scheepers, 7.09.2011: On 07/09/2011 21:32, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Op 07-09-11 21:11, Johan Scheepers schreef: Good day, Due to telephone cable theft I am without landline and my dsl internet connection. When repairs will done unknown. So I have got a Huawei E1752 mobile modem and sim. Now I have a debian 6 cd. That is installed on a 5400 revs sata internal laptop drive while dsl still working. Mobile works fine on existing os. Have ordered debian 6 on 8 dvd's. Done a test install while waiting with only mobile modem. Now install unable to install the internet service due not able to configure DHCP. This installation will now be on a 7400 rev internal laptop drive. Now after install and reboot no networking. I expect it will help when you install network-manager. When you are using Gnome, install the package network-manager-gnome, when using KDE install the package network-manager-kde. When using something else, I don't know what to do, maybe tell us what you use. Did some google but not correct answers for maybe not correct questions. Kindly please how to install networking from cd or eventually from said dvd's. You can install from CD or DVD on the same way as you can install from the internet, when you /etc/apt/sources.list file is correct configured. I would install it on a way like this: su # become root, will ask for a password apt-get install network-manager-gnome # install it. If you get an error, paste it to the list. But you can also do it with Synaptic. With regards, Paul. Hi Paul, Here follows the results...sorry a bit long. # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15]/ squeeze main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15]/ squeeze main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb ://volatile.debian.org squeeze-updates main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb-src ://volatile.debian.org squeeze-updates main root@debian:~# apt-get install network-manager-gnome Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package network-manager-gnome root@debian:~# apt-get update Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15] squeeze Release.gpg Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15]/ squeeze/main Translation-en Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15]/ squeeze/main Translation-en_ZA Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15] squeeze Release Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.0 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110205-18:15] squeeze/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex Reading package lists... Done root@debian:~# apt-get install network-manager-gnome Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package network-manager-gnome root@debian:~# cd /media/ root@debian:/media# find /media/cdrom0/ -name "network*" /media/cdrom0/pool/main/n/network-console /media/cdrom0/pool/main/n/network-console/network-console_1.27_amd64.udeb /media/cdrom0/pool/main/p/preseed/network-preseed_1.48_all.udeb root@debian:/media# apt-get install network-console Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package network-console root@debian:/media# According to the list.gz file for CD1, found at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/list-cd/, neither of the two packages you tried to install are on CD1. Do you have any other cds besides #1? If not, you'll probably have to wait for those DVDs. OK thanks. Received DVD's. Try test install with them Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6bb5bd.9090...@telkomsa.net
debian 6 usb 3 ready ???
Good day, Tried to install Debian 6 on usb drive via USB 3 port. Could not see the drive so tried on USB 2 port, went ok. After installation it worked on USB 3 but when connected an other usb drive in the 2nd usb3 port debian froze while the drive was loading. Froze so bad that I had to disconnect the internal batt. The swith off had no affect. This now happened twice. Should I rather run debian via usb2 ports. My laptop have 2xusb2 and 2xusb3 ports. Debian has a nice gnome desktop and it connects without hassels to my huawei modem. Hope that debian won't change to some rather difficult desktop After some use I want to move debian to my internal drive. That is were ubuntu now resides. Running ubuntu 11.04 without any trouble but the way the gnome/unity is going I am looking for the gnome desktop as it is at this moment. Kindly some advice on my questions please. Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6db402.9060...@telkomsa.net
Re: debian 6 usb 3 ready ???
On 12/09/2011 16:10, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:25:54 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: Tried to install Debian 6 on usb drive via USB 3 port. Could not see the drive so tried on USB 2 port, went ok. Logs and bug report number? These things need to be properly reported>;-) After installation it worked on USB 3 but when connected an other usb drive in the 2nd usb3 port debian froze while the drive was loading. Froze so bad that I had to disconnect the internal batt. The swith off had no affect. This now happened twice. If you still did not done it, I'd report it. USB 3 support has been in mainline kernel for some time ago (IIRC, since 2.6.31 when it was first added xHCI). Should I rather run debian via usb2 ports. My laptop have 2xusb2 and 2xusb3 ports. Debian has a nice gnome desktop and it connects without hassels to my huawei modem. Hope that debian won't change to some rather difficult desktop After some use I want to move debian to my internal drive. That is were ubuntu now resides. Running ubuntu 11.04 without any trouble but the way the gnome/unity is going I am looking for the gnome desktop as it is at this moment. Mmm... Ubuntu 11.04 ships a newer kernel (2.6.38 vs. 2.6.32) so maybe you could try to load a higher kernel in your Debian to check for any improvement in USB 3 support :-? Greetings, Good day Camaleón, Installing a higher kernel - slightly beyond me. Running her with debian 6 on usb3 and backup drive in usb 2. So far so good. Thanks for advice. Johan S Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6ef8ce.9040...@telkomsa.net
debian 6 mp3 not sounding
Good day, After installation of debian 6 I tried to play an mp3 file. The indicator show it is playing but no sound. I checked both speaker settings and they are flat out. Thats on movie player, rhymthbox and now even have vlc. Did some googling and installed some files. Still same. Kindly please what need I stiil do. Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6f641d.6040...@telkomsa.net
cheese - other application that does same job
Good day, I dad the name of another application that's similar to cheese for the web cam. Kindly please can someone just point me in the right direction. Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6f657a.10...@telkomsa.net
Re: cheese - other application that does same job (SOLVED )
On 13/09/2011 16:15, Johan Scheepers wrote: Good day, I dad the name of another application that's similar to cheese for the web cam. Kindly please can someone just point me in the right direction. Thanks Johan S found it guvcview Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6f6774.2060...@telkomsa.net
Re: debian 6 mp3 not sounding
On 13/09/2011 16:21, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:09:33 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: After installation of debian 6 I tried to play an mp3 file. Do other sound files work or just mp3 fails? The indicator show it is playing but no sound. I checked both speaker settings and they are flat out. Thats on movie player, rhymthbox and now even have vlc. Did some googling and installed some files. Still same. It's strange, because when you experience a codec issue the file cannot be played, you get a message like "not found any suitable codec" or something similar which makes my wonder if you have a global problem with your sound system and not just with mp3 files :-? Greetings, I only have files ending in ***.mp3***.ogg Booted to ubuntu 11.10 and it plays immediately. Seem to be no coomunication between debian software and pc hardware. Any suggestions please Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6f6ddc.3090...@telkomsa.net
Re: cheese - other application that does same job
On 13/09/2011 16:34, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:15:22 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: I dad the name of another application that's similar to cheese for the web cam. To take snapshots? Kindly please can someone just point me in the right direction. wxCam? Greetings, guvcview. found it better than cheese. reason - cheese is sort of sticky on movements. Guvcviem move along nicely. Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6f7c67.7040...@telkomsa.net
Re: debian 6 mp3 not sounding
On 13/09/2011 17:00, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:51:08 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 13/09/2011 16:21, Camaleón wrote: (...) It's strange, because when you experience a codec issue the file cannot be played, you get a message like "not found any suitable codec" or something similar which makes my wonder if you have a global problem with your sound system and not just with mp3 files :-? I only have files ending in ***.mp3***.ogg ? locate *.wav It's important to know if other audio files play fine or fail in the same way. Booted to ubuntu 11.10 and it plays immediately. They also play fine here (lenny and wheezy) ;-) Seem to be no coomunication between debian software and pc hardware Mmm... you need to run more tests before reaching a conclusion. Greetings, While I did some google it was found that I was not the only one. By accident I found the problem.Funny on the icon speaker volume is full blast Click on desktop speaker icon and then volume control. Popup - speaker is muted move indicator up and yes music. Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6f84e2.7090...@telkomsa.net
debian testing - questions
Good day, Please, Where should I ask questions about debian testing (wheezy). Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7dc924.5050...@telkomsa.net
debian sqeeze - k3b
Good day, Installed k3b in the gnome desktop. Nothing in " Applications - Sound & video " It is available via command line and "create launcher" on the desk top. Any ideas please. Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7dcafd.7070...@telkomsa.net
debian wheezy weekly builds
Good day, Downloaded dvd-1 from . http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ (19 Sept). Is it possible to install debian from dvd-1 only ?? Installed it on an external usb drive..all went well untill... Near the beginning was told some non-free files required..(names provided) install by stick or whatever. Skipped this. The end ..unable to install grub. So tried lilo. Still no go. So finished install. So no booting. Can not remember that such has happened to me with any of the flavours tried. Would like to try it out if I can boot it. Some suggestions please Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7dce68.9050...@telkomsa.net
Re: debian sqeeze - k3b
On 24/09/2011 14:24, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Saturday 24 September 2011 14:20:13 Johan Scheepers wrote: Good day, Installed k3b in the gnome desktop. Any ideas please. Thanks Johan S In kde k3b is under multimedia Thierry So in gnome it won't appear anywhere under "applications" ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7dcf28.9020...@telkomsa.net
Re: debian wheezy weekly builds
On 24/09/2011 14:49, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Saturday 24 September 2011 14:34:48 Johan Scheepers wrote: Good day, Downloaded dvd-1 from . http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ (19 Sept). Is it possible to install debian from dvd-1 only ?? Yes Installed it on an external usb drive..all went well untill... Near the beginning was told some non-free files required..(names provided) install by stick or whatever. Skipped this. The end ..unable to install grub. So tried lilo. Still no go. So finished install. So no booting. Can not remember that such has happened to me with any of the flavours tried. Would like to try it out if I can boot it. Some suggestions please Thanks Johan S I had that once, the culprite was that I had not made a separate boot partition Thierry Years ago when it was stiill "hard" to install linux versions it was proper to make different partitions. Now just one partition for whole installation with no problem. Really hope it stays that way. No problem with partitions becoming to small. But for testing I would try this. Will just wait for possible more info from list. Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7dd4c6.1060...@telkomsa.net
Re: debian wheezy weekly builds (FAILED)
On 24/09/2011 15:55, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:34:48 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: Downloaded dvd-1 from . http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ (19 Sept). Is it possible to install debian from dvd-1 only ?? Sure. Installed it on an external usb drive..all went well untill... Near the beginning was told some non-free files required..(names provided) install by stick or whatever. Skipped this. The end ..unable to install grub. So tried lilo. Still no go. So finished install. So no booting. Can not remember that such has happened to me with any of the flavours tried. Installing GRUB has failed me many times... dunno why, but it only happened with Debian :-) Would like to try it out if I can boot it. Some suggestions please Boot the system with a LiveCD or SGD. Afterwards, install GRUB as usual. Greetings, Eventually found that those files required for grub2 does not exist on the installation drive. So in the meantime will leave it at that. Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7f1c89.4020...@telkomsa.net
Re: More USB install-images please!
On 27/09/2011 19:28, Steve McIntyre wrote: jan.o...@agle.no wrote: I sometimes install Debian on machines belonging to family and friends. On my latest install I tried the boot.img.gz on an USB-stick. It failed halfway trough, complaining about a missing suitable ISO-image. Not wasting time, I dd'ed the netinstall iso onto the stick and installed. As far as I know, the debian-6.0.2.1-i386-netinst.iso is the ONLY one that can be used on both USB and CD-rom. Why not give debian-6.0.2.1-i386-CD-1.iso the same functionality The netinstall-image install requires much time on slow lines. I HAVE tried dd'ing debian-6.0.2.1-i386-CD-1.iso to a stick. It will not boot. Didn't expect it to do either. Had to try. Then there's most likely a problem with your BIOS I'm afraid. For both amd64 and i386, the first disc in *every* set is created using iso-hybrid options to make it work both on CD/DVD as well as on USB: businesscard netinst CD#1 DVD#1 BD#1 As normal, I ran lots of tests when I created the images for 6.0.2.1, but just to make sure 100% that things are OK I've just downloaded debian-6.0.2.1-i386-CD-1.iso onto a USB stick. It booted just fine on an i386 netbook here. Have you tried unetbootin to write iso to stick. I used it a few times and it worked every time. Install it with apt-get. Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e821fad.2060...@telkomsa.net
apt-get update -- invalid since xx xx xx
Good day, Kindly please what does this means. Never got this before.. apt-get update Hit http://debian.mirror.ac.za squeeze Release Hit http://debian.mirror.ac.za squeeze-updates Release E: Release file expired, ignoring http://debian.mirror.ac.za/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/Release (invalid since 16h 40min 53s) How can this be corrected please. Thanks Johan S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e90a0ac.1090...@telkomsa.net
Re: apt-get update -- invalid since xx xx xx(SOLVED)
On 08/10/2011 22:36, Christian Körner wrote: On 08/10/11 20:12, Johan Scheepers wrote: Good day, Kindly please what does this means. Never got this before.. apt-get update Hit http://debian.mirror.ac.za squeeze Release Hit http://debian.mirror.ac.za squeeze-updates Release E: Release file expired, ignoring http://debian.mirror.ac.za/debian/dists/squeeze-updates/Release (invalid since 16h 40min 53s) Looks like the mirror has a problem as it serves a Release file with an entry like: Valid-Until: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 02:24:48 UTC How can this be corrected please. You should contact debian-mirr...@lists.debian.org to let them know - if not done already. For time being you could flip to another mirror. Also, this question had been posted some time ago ;) http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/11/msg01534.html Regards, Christian Thanks for advice. Did some more study and found... apt-spy netselect-apt System now up to date. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e9145ae.8090...@telkomsa.net
Debian - thunderbird not available
Good day, I am a thunderbird fan. Trying to install on debian 506 but not available. Is there an easy way to get it please. Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cada14f.1060...@telkomsa.net
Debian-506 sumsung ML-1510-700 printer driver not in list
Good day, Debian-506 sumsung ML-1510-700 printer driver not in list. Please an easy way to get driver on list. Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cada4b8.3050...@telkomsa.net
Debian 506 not supporting ext4
Good day, I am new to debian 506 ** not ** opensuse and ubuntu. Installed yesterday for evaluating My backup usb drive is ext4. Please is there an easy way to make debian support ext4? Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cada0a6.7020...@telkomsa.net
Re: lazarus & fpc - absent
On 10/10/2010 16:21, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 10 October 2010 12:58:02 Javier Barroso wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Johan wrote: You should be able to use any of the listed mirrors by adding a line to your /etc/apt/sources.list like this: deb http:///ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main Replacing /ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ with the mirror in question. Better replace sid with sequeeze in that instructions, and run aptitude update; aptitude -s install lazarus , to see which packages will be picked from squeeze You will need a mixed debian environment (see pinning [1]) or to do a backport (both are advanced topics) Seems like lazarus was removed from lenny for legal reasons [2] Regards, [1] http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences?action=show&redirect=Pinning [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=506977 Johan seems to want a lot of more up-to-date stuff. Would he not be better to use Squeeze in the first place? After all, it is over two tears since Lenny was frozen. Then he wouldn'y have to dive into more complex stuff immediately. He does not appear to be sufficiently at home yet to grasp the difference between Lenny and Sid - let alone to try and run those two together! Lisi Lisi, Thanks, I have downloaded Debian-weekly-test dvd and all is there. Most on the dvd and some from repo. I know I am running unstable test but will update regularly. This mail is from Test. Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb58c2d.1080...@telkomsa.net
Re: lazarus & fpc - absent
On 13/10/2010 18:51, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 13 October 2010 11:38:37 Johan Scheepers wrote: On 10/10/2010 16:21, Lisi wrote: Johan seems to want a lot of more up-to-date stuff. Would he not be better to use Squeeze in the first place? After all, it is over two tears since Lenny was frozen. Then he wouldn'y have to dive into more complex stuff immediately. He does not appear to be sufficiently at home yet to grasp the difference between Lenny and Sid - let alone to try and run those two together! Lisi, Thanks, I have downloaded Debian-weekly-test dvd and all is there. Most on the dvd and some from repo. :-) Good. I know I am running unstable test but will update regularly. This mail is from Test. I think that a large percentage of the users on this list use Squeeze on their desktops. It has already ben frozen, so will become progressively more stable until it becomes Stable and Lenny is downgraded to Old Stable. So you should be fine. I am sure that that was the best thing to do in the circumstances. By the way, Squeeze is Testing, which is not unstable. Tho' it probably appears unstable to many people here, it is not classified as unstable, but as testing. Sid is Unstable and is indeed unstable! This nomenclature is not of itself important, but I may not be the only one who has found that your posts are sometimes a bit confusing because I am not sure to which out of Squeeze and Sid you are referring. I am woefully ignorant about Fedora so cannot just translate. ;-) Lisi Sorry if I sound a bit confusing. Being less than 10 days with debian first time in my life I am confused about namings etc. Used to opensuse and ubuntu. Appreciate the help so far from list members Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb6a29f.6060...@telkomsa.net
improve screen resolution
Good day, Is there a way that I can improve my laptop screen resolution. Laptop = Fujitsu/Siemens Esprimo Mobile. Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ccfada2.3080...@telkomsa.net
Re: Fwd: Re: improve screen resolution
On 02/11/2010 15:34, Johan Scheepers wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: improve screen resolution Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:10:24 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:07:23 + (UTC) From: Camaleón To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:20:18 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: Is there a way that I can improve my laptop screen resolution. What is the current one? Run: xdpyinfo | grep dimensions xdpyinfo | grep dimensions dimensions:800x600 pixels (212x159 millimeters) Laptop = Fujitsu/Siemens Esprimo Mobile. And what is the chipset of the VGA card? Run: lspci | grep VGA lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10) Greetings, Thanks for the commands. I did not know them. Regards Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd03316.5010...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 11/02/2010 02:07 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:20:18 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: > >> Is there a way that I can improve my laptop screen resolution. > > What is the current one? > > Run: > xdpyinfo | grep dimensions > >> Laptop = Fujitsu/Siemens Esprimo Mobile. > > And what is the chipset of the VGA card? > > Run: > lspci | grep VGA > > Greetings, This is from my suse OS. This is what I get in opensuse 11.3 lspci | grep VGA dimensions:1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters) This is very nice. 800x600 is maybe OK in normal use. I get sizing problems on my internet banking site with the smaller resolution I do not have the know how to implement your suggestions. I only can use the OS's as is. I do appreciate your assistance Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd02304.8040...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 02/11/2010 19:23, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:41:08 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: This is from my suse OS. This is what I get in opensuse 11.3 lspci | grep VGA dimensions:1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters) Okay, so you want to get 1024x768, right? This is very nice. 800x600 is maybe OK in normal use. I get sizing problems on my internet banking site with the smaller resolution I do not have the know how to implement your suggestions. I only can use the OS's as is. I do appreciate your assistance I cannot guarantee your card can get your desired resolution under Debian, there seem to be some problems with xorg-sis drivers, but we at least can try some tweaks :-) Are you using lenny, squeeze, sid...? Anyway, you can create a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file (if there is one already present just make a backup first -by renaming the file to something like "xorg.conf.old"-, never work on the original file without having done a copy first so in the event something goes wrong you can easily restore the original file). And there you can put: *** Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" DisplaySize 271 203 End Section *** (that is the size openSUSE 11.3 detected) Save the "xorg.conf" file and restart the system (the fastest way in this case to test the new configuration). And cross your fingers :-P Greetings, OK, before I do anything. I am using squeeze (freeze) and update it daily. Does this make any difference to your suggestion? Regards Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd04cc9.8060...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 02/11/2010 19:44, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:39:21 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 02/11/2010 19:23, Camaleón wrote: (...) *** Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" DisplaySize 271 203 End Section *** OK, before I do anything. I am using squeeze (freeze) and update it daily. Does this make any difference to your suggestion? No, don't worry and go ahead. The worst it could happen is that xorg cannot start at all and you find your self with a command prompt (I hope you are skilled at command line :-P) Greetings, The worst did happen. Removed file. Any other suggestions ** or ** should I replace the card? What type suggested. I would really like to stay with debian. Like the way it looks and works. Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd05305.3010...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 02/11/2010 19:58, Chris Davies wrote: Johan Scheepers wrote: Is there a way that I can improve my laptop screen resolution. This is what I get in opensuse 11.3 lspci | grep VGA dimensions:1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters) That can't be right; are you mixing your commands and results? Try again, please: lspci | grep VGA and then xdpyinfo | grep dimensions This is very nice. So what's actually the problem? The problem is..: In suse the resolotion is 1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters) ** Good ** In debian squeeze it is 800x600 pixels (212x159 millimeters) ** Not so good ** Chris This now in debian squeeze..: r...@johan:/home/johan# lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10) r...@johan:/home/johan# xdpyinfo | grep dimensions dimensions:800x600 pixels (212x159 millimeters) Do you want this in opensuse11.3? Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd05d0f.70...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 02/11/2010 20:22, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:05:57 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 02/11/2010 19:44, Camaleón wrote: Does this make any difference to your suggestion? No, don't worry and go ahead. The worst it could happen is that xorg cannot start at all and you find your self with a command prompt (I hope you are skilled at command line :-P) The worst did happen. Removed file. Ouch :-( Any other suggestions ** or ** should I replace the card? What type suggested. I would really like to stay with debian. Like the way it looks and works. Upload your whole "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" file to "www.pastebin.com" maybe we can get more ideas by reading the xorg log. Greetings, Done. Quite large Your assistance is appreciated Regads Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd05eee.90...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 02/11/2010 21:05, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:56:46 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 02/11/2010 20:22, Camaleón wrote: Any other suggestions ** or ** should I replace the card? What type suggested. I would really like to stay with debian. Like the way it looks and works. Upload your whole "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" file to "www.pastebin.com" maybe we can get more ideas by reading the xorg log. Greetings, Done. Quite large And where is the link to the pastebin data so we can see it? :-) Greetings, Sorry all new to me. Is this what you arelooking for Your paste: http://pastebin.com/kfYqmmCd Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd06944.4020...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 02/11/2010 22:45, lee wrote: On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 08:48:47PM +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 02/11/2010 19:58, Chris Davies wrote: Johan Scheepers wrote: Is there a way that I can improve my laptop screen resolution. This is what I get in opensuse 11.3 lspci | grep VGA dimensions:1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters) That can't be right; are you mixing your commands and results? Try again, please: lspci | grep VGA and then xdpyinfo | grep dimensions This is very nice. So what's actually the problem? The problem is..: In suse the resolotion is 1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters) ** Good ** In debian squeeze it is 800x600 pixels (212x159 millimeters) ** Not so good ** Chris This now in debian squeeze..: r...@johan:/home/johan# lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10) You need to have xserver-xorg-video-sis installed --- I´d remove the other xserver-xorg-video-* packages. The "sis" has already been tried, though, as you can see in the logfile: (II) LoadModule: "sis" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/sis_drv.so (II) Module sis: vendor="X.Org Foundation" Later it´s unloaded. It looks as if the xserver gets confused because it loads arbitrary modules and cannot figure out the capabilities of the screen: (II) VESA(0):: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz (II) VESA(0):: Using default vrefresh range of 50.00-70.00 Hz (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x768" (no mode of this name) (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name) (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "800x600" (no mode of this name) (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "640x480" (no mode of this name) (WW) VESA(0): No valid modes left. Trying less strict filter... (II) VESA(0):: Using hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz (II) VESA(0):: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-70.00 Hz (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x768" (hsync out of range) (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 800x600 (pitch 800) (**) VESA(0): *Built-in mode "800x600" (**) VESA(0): *Built-in mode "640x480" (==) VESA(0): DPI set to (96, 96) So what happens when you purge all xserver-xorg-video-* packages except for xserver-xorg-video-sis? Sorry all the above is beyond my capabilities. I do not follow your instructions/suggestions Maybe some more pointers? Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd07ab1.5040...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 02/11/2010 22:02, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 21:40:52 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 02/11/2010 21:05, Camaleón wrote: And where is the link to the pastebin data so we can see it? :-) Sorry all new to me. Is this what you arelooking for Your paste: http://pastebin.com/kfYqmmCd That it is. Thanks :-) Ops, it seems your xorg server is using the VESA driver, that looks no good to me (VESA driver is the most basic video driver available). OTOH, that matches with the bug report :-( If you still feel vigorous enough to play again with your "/etc/X11/ xorg.conf" file I can give you another hint: force the load of SiS driver. Again, you'll have to create the file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and put in there: *** Section "Device" Driver "sis671" EndSection *** Done including the stars *** that correct Your paste: http://pastebin.com/pLM39MWy Bad happenend again. Tried startx in user and super mode. no dice Await your report before the next one. Johan And restart. If that does not work, you can also try with this: *** Section "Device" Driver "sis" EndSection *** I dunno what would be the appropiate driver for Debian ("sis" or "sis671"), so try first with one and then with the other O:-) By doing this, we are trying to force Xorg server to load a more advanced/ suitable VGA driver for your card chipset in the hope the new driver can allow you to choose another resolution (1024x768). Don't forget to attach the new logs (pastebin) for each change you make in your "xorg.conf" file, so we can verify if the new configuration has been correctly applied. Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd07c7c@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 03/11/2010 00:58, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 23:02:52 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 02/11/2010 22:02, Camaleón wrote: Again, you'll have to create the file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and put in there: *** Section "Device" Driver "sis671" EndSection *** Done including the stars *** that correct Your paste: http://pastebin.com/pLM39MWy Bad happenend again. Tried startx in user and super mode. no dice Await your report before the next one. I see the same report, it still fallbacks to VESA :-/ And VESA does not like the resolution you need: (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x768" (hsync out of range) (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 800x600 (pitch 800) O.k. Try to let Xorg to generate by itself a "xorg.conf" file. If you are under gnome, go to a tty (ctrl+alt+f1) and then as root run: /etc/init.d/gdm stop Report no such file. There is no file. Then cd into /etc/X11 directory: cd /etc/X11/ Once here, run: Xorg -configure Reports Fatal error and a lot stuff Question..: Once in tty, how to return to gnome grafical. That will generate a "xorg.conf" file for you in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Reboot. If neither works, do not worry, copy the content of the "xorg.file" that it was auto-generated and paste here (it should not be very long). Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd14ef7.1000...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 03/11/2010 14:25, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:00:55 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 03/11/2010 00:58, Camaleón wrote: O.k. Try to let Xorg to generate by itself a "xorg.conf" file. If you are under gnome, go to a tty (ctrl+alt+f1) and then as root run: /etc/init.d/gdm stop Report no such file. There is no file. My bad. In squeeze it is called gdm3: /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop And follow the rest of the steps.. ** (gdm3 : 2656) : Warning : Failed to aquire org.name.displaymanager " " " could not aquire name : bailing out. Then the next command also balks. . Then cd into /etc/X11 directory: cd /etc/X11/ Once here, run: Xorg -configure Reports Fatal error and a lot stuff Question..: Once in tty, how to return to gnome grafical. Ctrl+Alt+F7 :-) Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd16309.2030...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 03/11/2010 11:42, Chris Davies wrote: lee quoted the pastbin: (II) VESA(0):: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz ... (WW) VESA(0): No valid modes left. Trying less strict filter... (II) VESA(0):: Using hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz ... (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) It seems to me that this explains why X won't kick into 1024x768 mode (it thinks the monitor can't handle it). 1. Do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf? No. Not such file. If so, please could you paste the "Monitor" sections that include any reference to "HorizSync" or "VertRefresh". (Better still, pastebin the entire file.) For example, mine has a section that looks like this: Section "Monitor" Identifier "DELL 2007FP" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "DELL 2007FP" HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 EndSection 2. For your monitor, can you please identify the Horizontal Sync frequency range that it can support (this will be in the booklet, or you can try searching for it online). Sorry no booklet. Was a demonstration model. On the net..: fujitso siemens esprimo mobile does not display the freq. Cheers, Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd163c3.1030...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 03/11/2010 17:15, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:26:33 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 03/11/2010 14:25, Camaleón wrote: My bad. In squeeze it is called gdm3: /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop And follow the rest of the steps.. ** (gdm3 : 2656) : Warning : Failed to aquire org.name.displaymanager " " " could not aquire name : bailing out. Then the next command also balks. Uh? :-? Well... you have to understand what we are trying to get with that. The goal is to kill the X server (your X session) in order you can run "Xorg - configure" command. If killing gdm3 does not work, you can try by calling "init 1" ("init 1" is single-user mode with no graphical server) and run the command from there. So jump to a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F1), login as root and run: init 1 Re-type root's password to get into maintenance console and follow the last steps: cd /etc/X11/ Xorg -configure Well the short of it..it ends in .. ABORT. Any suggestions for maybe a new card that is supported by squeeze? Or a card that is more compatible with linux distros? Now say I do replace the card. How will debian handle it and maybe the other distros that I have on external disks without reinstalling. Suse11.3, Ubuntu 10.10. Thanks If something goes wrong (or you feel in panic :-P), you can always return back to your "safe place" by: su - youruser startx Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd183fc.3040...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 03/11/2010 18:09, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:47:08 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 03/11/2010 17:15, Camaleón wrote: So jump to a tty (Ctrl+Alt+F1), login as root and run: init 1 Re-type root's password to get into maintenance console and follow the last steps: cd /etc/X11/ Xorg -configure Well the short of it..it ends in .. ABORT. Ouch! :-( I can't figure out what is going wrong here. "Xorg -configure" it's a very basic step that should work under any circumstances :-? Sorry, I'm getting out of ideas. Any suggestions for maybe a new card that is supported by squeeze? But didn't you own a laptop? How could you change the VGA card? I know there are some external VGA ATI devices but AFAIK they are bundled with concrete laptop brands, not suitable for all laptops. Or a card that is more compatible with linux distros? Your card should be compatible... problem here is that you are hitting a bug in Debian's xorg driver package (the one I already told you). Now say I do replace the card. How will debian handle it and maybe the other distros that I have on external disks without reinstalling. Suse11.3, Ubuntu 10.10. Almost any common VGA card (ati, nvidia or intel) would be fine. For instance, I've got a nvidia 7600GS (quite old, I know) running on Debian lenny pretty fine and previously was running on openSUSE 10.3 :-) Today, installing a new VGA card should be an automatic step in latest distributions (as openSUSE 11.3 and Ubuntu 10.10) because Xorg has been automated precisely to achieve this situation (VGA card replacement, monitor change...). Only when facing problems (such your case, I guess) manual tweaks are required. Greetings, Now that remains is a big thank you for a big effort from you to solve this. It was a learning experience for me. Thank you to other list members who suggested some tweaks. Regards Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd19574.1050...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 03/11/2010 19:46, Morgan Gangwere wrote: On 11/2/2010 12:20 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote: [stuff] I've had exactly similar problems... And mine were solved by building my own Xorg configuration. Part of this was by going around and doing VERY general google searches about my laptop and linux/X. The other part of it was going and getting another dist to generate an xorg.conf that worked (somewhat), copying that onto a flash drive or to dropbox or something. Here's what I think /your/ xorg.conf file is going to look like: ---8<--- xorg.conf Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "SiS Graphics Adapter" Driver "sis" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "SiS Graphics Adapter" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x768" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" EndSection 8< Its worth a shot. Thanks for your suggestion. First - copied your file into xorg.conf. It complained and crashed. second - cut away excess and only left what is to do with screen. It did not complain but went in to console mode. third - tried some more little tweaks. No difference. Now again no xorg.conf file. Kind regards Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd1b494@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 03/11/2010 22:03, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:01:40 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: Now that remains is a big thank you for a big effort from you to solve this. It was a learning experience for me. Thank you to other list members who suggested some tweaks. Regards Hey, don't give up so easily! :-) Let's return to the beginning... we have this bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=546741 What we have here is a user using a computer like yours (or quite similar, it's a "Fujitsu Esprimo Mobile v5535"), running Squeeze (like you) and he can get a higher resolution with VESA driver (1280x800). So back to work, copy/paste the "xorg.conf" detailed in this message¹, restart the computer and check if you see any improvement. Just remember to keep: *** Driver "vesa" *** Instead: *** Driver "sis" *** ¹http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=546741#5 Greetings, How much of that xorg should I copy? The word 'sis' to be replaced by 'vesa in the whole file'? Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd1ce4c.1020...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 03/11/2010 22:22, Richard Hector wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 20:03 +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:01:40 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: Now that remains is a big thank you for a big effort from you to solve this. It was a learning experience for me. Thank you to other list members who suggested some tweaks. Regards Hey, don't give up so easily! :-) Let's return to the beginning... we have this bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=546741 What we have here is a user using a computer like yours (or quite similar, it's a "Fujitsu Esprimo Mobile v5535"), running Squeeze (like you) and he can get a higher resolution with VESA driver (1280x800). So back to work, copy/paste the "xorg.conf" detailed in this message¹, restart the computer and check if you see any improvement. It might also be worth checking if the Suse installation, which IIRC works ok, has a good xorg.conf? Suse handles it differently it seems to me. There is not one xorg file some smaller ones like screen, monitor, devices, etc. Johan Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd2650c.9050...@telkomsa.net
Re: improve screen resolution
On 04/11/2010 12:49, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:04:12 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: On 03/11/2010 22:03, Camaleón wrote: (...) So back to work, copy/paste the "xorg.conf" detailed in this message¹, restart the computer and check if you see any improvement. (...) ¹http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=546741#5 How much of that xorg should I copy? The whole content. The word 'sis' to be replaced by 'vesa in the whole file'? Yes... okay, I'll put it all together in pastebin (just copy/paste): http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2nXCCgM5 Greetings, UNBELIEVABLE...now need to improve my specs resolution. Running at 1280x768 and have 1024x768 to spare. Now I need to say THANK YOU in capital letters. Did what you said and there it is. My internet banking can see all and room to spare. I even contacted siemens SA to lookinto another chipset. Still waiting. May this help others users to improve their resolution. Easy ... a driver available on the net by you and others. Kind regards Johan This was a very good day for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd2bb80.9010...@telkomsa.net
networkmanager blocking evolution
Good day, Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected by cable. All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out. Today I configured evolution but no dice. I use icedove but wanted to try evo. On the evo list I found that evo needs some setting up in networkmanager. Never done it before. Some help would be appreciated Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd31e4f.70...@telkomsa.net
Re: networkmanager blocking evolution
On 04/11/2010 21:56, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 22:57 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote: Good day, Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected by cable. All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out. Today I configured evolution but no dice. I use icedove but wanted to try evo. On the evo list I found that evo needs some setting up in networkmanager. Never done it before. Do you also have a wireless card? If so, does evolution work if you are connected through the wireless with internet? If so, does the networkmanager manage both cards? Or just the wireless? If I start networkmanger the option for wireless pops up What does that mean -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd33289.8000...@telkomsa.net
Re: networkmanager blocking evolution
On 05/11/2010 00:12, Bob Proulx wrote: Johan Scheepers wrote: Standalone laptop using debian squeeze freeze on a dsl modem connected by cable. All my internet applications work but evolution send/receive greyed out. This is another one of those annoying bugs related to network-manager. Evolution online/offline with n-m only works if network-manager controls *all* network devices. If there is an active network device not controlled by n-m then it won't be known and will be marked as offline to Evolution. If you don't need network-manager, and if you are suffering from the problem of n-m not managing your network devices then it would seem that you would not need it, then you can restore Evolution's online capability by removing the network-manager package. Then Evolution won't think it is permanently offline. A number of bugs have been filed on this topic and most of them merged into this one: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=549451 Bob You were correct. Just uninstalled networkmanager and all is fine. Thank you to all that responded Thanks Regards Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd41bbb.4000...@telkomsa.net
Re: how to install debian on a external USB disk
On 09/11/2010 10:04, Yuwen Dai wrote: Dear all, I've been using Debian stable for years. Now I'd like to try Debian unstable or test on an external USB disk without modifying anything on my current disk, including partition as well as grub. Would you please give me any guides on this? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Yuwen What I do is disconnect all drives except the one I want to use. I have suse, ubuntu, debian on different usb external drives. I just disconnect and connect to usb what I want to use and it works for me more than 2 years . Enjoy Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd97aeb.7080...@telkomsa.net