Re: cdrecord -scanbus fails

2003-02-17 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:07:01PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
> I did not intentionally set DMA on /dev/hdd and I don't know how to turn
> it off.  Could you tell me how you did this?
man hdparm

hugh


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Re: Installing Opera

2003-02-18 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 12:38:03PM -0500, David Turetsky wrote:
> I'm currently downloading Opera 6 to my linux machine and would like to
> install it
 
> It's a deb file, downloading to /home/david (which is where I'm logged
> in and running Mozilla)
dpkg -i foo.deb

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Re: Installing Opera

2003-02-18 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 01:49:39PM -0500, David Turetsky wrote:
>   T'would be elegant, I suppose, if I could address this without
>   getting an intellectual hernia... and how might I go about
> adding
>   'Opera' to my Gnome window (Program, icon, etc)

> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627
no no no, your next project is mutt and postfix...

hugh


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Re: Woody ISO

2003-02-19 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:29:57PM +, Keith O'Connell wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Could anyone supply me with a site I can get hold of a copy of the ISO for 
> a CD of Woody (Binary 1 - Non US) please?
mirror.ac.uk is quick if your anywhere near janet...

hugh


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Re: can anyone recomend an application ??? ...

2003-02-19 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 07:39:08AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:30:55PM +, Dave Selby wrote:
> > I need an application to remind me when certain events are due, ie
> > wifes birthday etc !!, 
> 
> I think you're a bit beyond what a desktop-based PIM is going to do
> for you, I would consider getting a PDA.
my psion 5 has served me wellfor years [ironically, its being repaired
at the mo :-( ] anyway, i ve never uesd palm or any clones but i noticed
the the zire is quite cool and v cheap! [coolness is deff an issue with
pdas ;-) ] 2mb isnt much but it would store your wifes birthday unless
calculating it is more complicated than easter.

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vim macro|bind

2003-02-20 Thread Hugh Saunders
how would one bind a key to
:.,$d [or a named function to delete from current position to eof] ?

basically just want to start simple! have gasped in amazement at the vim
maze solving macro and looked at /usr/share/doc/vim/html but cant see
anything simple for binding stuff.

thanks

hugh


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Re: vim macro|bind

2003-02-21 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 07:55:27PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> The command
> dG
> will do that.  "G" is a cursor movement command that moves the cursor
> to the end of the buffer.
ahh, i knew  you could use G to move, but not as a range for d,
thanks.

> Look at the "map" commands.  For example, on a laptop I often hit F1
> when I mean to hit ESC.  I solved that with the following in my .vimrc :
> 
> " don't show help when F1 is pressed -- I press it too much by accident
> map  
> inoremap  

thanks, will play with that. I often hit f1 by mistake as well [is your
laptop a thinkpad? mine is and has the esc where my fingers woulndt
expect it] but im so cluless with vim it quite good to see the help
every now and then:-)

hugh


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Re: Debian-user as mbox format available?

2003-02-22 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 05:05:16PM +0100, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:
> anybody having the debian-user mailinglist as mbox format file?
I do!

> I'd like to have the discussions in threads where I can keep
> the useful ones and delete the useless.
yep, mutt does this nicely

> So far I haven't been able to
> find any archives carrying the mail traffic as plain mbox format.
if you subscribe, you will soon have a [very] phat mbox archive... that
is if you choose to store it in mbox rather than Maildir.

you could even split it into monthly files and publish them if you feel
that would be usefull.

hugh


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Re: IRC Server

2003-02-26 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:28:46AM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> Can I please have some suggestions on a small, simple, and secure IRC
> server. I don't need anything major, but would like some basic
> functionality...
how about a 386 running ircd behind a well configured firewall?

hugh


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Re: Mouse not working in GPM or X

2003-02-26 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 03:02:23PM -0500, Rowland Darbin wrote:
> 
> I installed XFree86 -configure and it tells me that it can't find my mouse. 
> So I installed gpm. When gpm is running and I move around the mouse, I 
> don't get a curser, I get a white line on the top of the screen and a bunch 
> of new lines as if I kept hitting enter. I replaced the mouse with another 
> PS2 mouse and got the same result it is a MS IntelliMouse. I am using the 
> kernel that came with the default 1.44 floppy install v3.0.
> 
> Any suggestions, questions, comments, or rude remarks would be very helpful.
1. stuff gpm [theres the rude remark]
2. I wouldnt bother with an X configure program either, just vim /etc/X11/XFree86-4
   In the configured mouse section make sure device is /dev/psaux
3. make sure you kill gpm before starting X unless you set X to read
   /dev/gpmdata.
 
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Re: Mouse not working in GPM or X

2003-02-26 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 04:21:12PM -0500, Rowland Darbin wrote:
> 
> Thanks, it gets into X but says:
> (EE) Mouse0: cannot determine the mouse protocol
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
EndSection

check the protocol option.

hugh

ps: this is back on list, sorry i replied personally by mistake last
time!


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Re: [OT] what are you running? (was Complaint)

2003-02-26 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:07:16PM -0600, Ray wrote:
> > (I'm sure there are more then a few Evolution and OE users on the list).
> 
> what are people on the debian-user list using for there primary machine(s)?
> 
> the last few messages i see are from users of (going by User-Agent or 
> X-Mailer header)
> kmail
> mozilla on windows
> mozilla on debian
> xemacs
> mutt
mutt gets my vote :-)

hugh:wq


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Re: debian on laptop w/ limited ram/speed/HD

2003-03-01 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:05:05PM -0500, Matt Price wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> A middle-aged (~4 years old -- so, not old, not new) laptop is about
> to become available to me, and I'd like to install debian on it.
> The system is an HP Omnibook A4100,

> P-II 300
> 96 meg ram
> 20 gig hard drive
I dont think that spec if particulaly limited!
from the subject line i was thinking 386 25mhz 4mb ram 40mb hdd...

the above will be fine!

and ill second that icewm rocks! -if you wannt a quick easy way to try
ice and OOo on the above laptop, try knoppix.

hugh


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Re: Monitor problems

2003-03-01 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 07:41:23PM +0100, Tom wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Since my reinstall of Debian last weekend, I'm having problems with my
> monitor (as the subject already suggested :-/). Thing is, X starts up
> gracefully (nVidia; gdm), when I exit my WM however, my monitor yields
> an "out of range"-error. It's refresh rates are too high then,
> although I made sure to specify the correct rates in XF86Config-4.
> 
> As long as I was using fluxbox, this really was a problem, since it
> left me no other possibility then Ctrl-Alt-Del.
to exit fluxbox, under the windowmanagers menu choose exit.

> Right now I'm using
> gnome, which seems to have the bizarre capability of recovering the
> display. My monitor's "out of range" signal appears for some seconds,
> and then vanishes to make place for gdm. However, when I want to
> switch to a console, the same thing happens. Reboot, then, too.
> 
> I've never before experienced such behaviour, and find it quite odd.
> How come my refresh rates get (too) high when I *leave* X?
are you using a frame buffer?

hugh


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Re: Kernel-sourcecode directory

2003-03-03 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 06:22:04PM +0100, Willem-Jan Meijer wrote:
> Hello for the 3rd time today,
> 
> I've downloaded the nvidia-kernel-src and nvidia-glc-src and read the 
> documentation. You have to give a command wich gives this result:
> 
> We do not seem to be in a top level linux kernel source directory
> tree. Since we are trying to make a kernel package, that does not make
> sense.  Please change directory to a top level linux kernel source
> directory, and try again. (If I am wrong, and this is indeed a top
> level linux kernel source directory, then I have gotten sadly out of
> date with current kernels, and you should upgrade kernel-package)
> 
> So I downloaded the kernel-source-2.4.18 and installed that package. I 
> searched my computer but I can't find the correct directory. I still get this 
> message.
> 
> Does someone know where to find this directory/how to install the nvidia 
> drivers?
kernel packages leave a tar in /usr/src

you need to unzip and untar. it is helpful to then symlink this dir to
/usr/src/linux as thats where scripts seem to look for kernel source.

hugh


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Re: kernel: lp0 on fire ????

2003-03-06 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 05:10:13PM -0500, Narins, Josh wrote:
> I set my printer ablaze, and did not get this message.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
yes: arson

hugh


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hosts.(allow|deny)

2003-03-07 Thread Hugh Saunders
hello,
I dont like telnet. But i have a very old mac which i like to use as a
terminal, I cant pursuade it to run macSSH [macssh.com] so i am running
Niftytelnet this necessitates the running of telnetd on another machine.

So, in hosts.deny i put in.telnetd : ALL 
and in hosts.allow i put in.telnetd : 192.168.1.3
[as 1.3 is the mac.]

This made me think about the hosts files and security -usually i just
use ssh and let any host access the system -that box has no nfs exports or
anything.

But i thought it would be more secure to put ALL : ALL in hosts.deny and
then in.sshd : ALL in hosts.allow. This dosnt work[ssh connections are
refused], how do i specify that i want all hosts to be able to connect
to port 22?

thanks

hugh


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Re: hosts.(allow|deny)

2003-03-07 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:43:34AM -0800, nate wrote:
> Hugh Saunders said:
> 
> > But i thought it would be more secure to put ALL : ALL in hosts.deny and
> > then in.sshd : ALL in hosts.allow. This dosnt work[ssh connections are
> > refused], how do i specify that i want all hosts to be able to connect to
> > port 22?
> 
> 
> hosts.allow/deny can be tricky(one reason I don't use it), your situation
> should be fixed by changing in.sshd to sshd. Check  /var/log/daemon.log
> for the name of the daemon(s). You should see reject messages for the
> sshd service.
There is no reference to ssh at all in daemon.log
But.. I changed in.sshd to sshd and it now works.

> another reason I don't use it is I prefer firewalls over it.
Hmmm i guess iptables would be better but i dont speak iptables yet and
hosts seemed like a quick fix and as with most quik fixes, it probably
isnt the best way of doing things.

thanks for help

hugh


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Re: hosts.(allow|deny)

2003-03-07 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:57:25PM -0800, nate wrote:
> Hugh Saunders said:
> 
> > There is no reference to ssh at all in daemon.log
> > But.. I changed in.sshd to sshd and it now works.
> 
> it may be in /var/log/auth.log been a while since I used tcp wrappers :)
for the record, is all in /var/log/auth.log.*

> if all else fails grep ssh /var/log/* :)
yeah grep rocks! :-)

ps nate... i found a really strange animated gif of someone called nate
with a hand pupet and a laptop, is that you?

hugh


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Re: hosts.(allow|deny) [non-NAT routing]

2003-03-07 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 03:55:12PM -0600, Will Trillich wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:01:14PM +0000, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:43:34AM -0800, nate wrote:
> > > Hugh Saunders said:
> > > another reason I don't use it is I prefer firewalls over it.
> > Hmmm i guess iptables would be better but i dont speak iptables yet and
> > hosts seemed like a quick fix and as with most quik fixes, it probably
> > isnt the best way of doing things.
> 
> i predict you'll be delighted at how many things are solved by
> just doing this:
> 
>   apt-get install ipmasq
did that a while ago but doesnt mean i understand!

I have this script that is run by init:

#!/bin/sh
iptables -t nat -F POSTROUTING
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE
echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

this was written at the pub during a surreyLUG meeting by a very
helpfull chap. It certainly does the job [ie anything on the wlan0 side
of things can communicate with anything on the wired net eth0 is on].
How do i route without NATing? so that the sending ip address is not
mangled by the router?

thanks

hugh


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Re: Debian cannot recognize NIC

2003-03-08 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 11:26:50AM -0800, CM Miller wrote:
> 
> 
> Did a clean install of Debian Woody w/kernel
> 2.4.18-bf2.4 yesterday and when it came time to load
> modules for my NIC, which is a 3Com Fast Etherlink XL
> 10/100 Base TX, it was giving me errors.  Since I
> can't get this machine on my network, unable to get
> apt-get up as well. 
"giving me errors" is not helpfull.

I have some 3com 3c509 10/100 cards and they work fine with the
vortex/bomerang driver.

use modconf and try various 3com drivers till you find one that loads.
[or, use lspci or cat /proc/pci and work out what  exactly you have and
therefore what module you need]

hugh


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Re: recover lost root password

2003-03-08 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 04:41:36PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote:
> Well here's a good one, is there a way to get into a system when
> you've lost the root password? Without a CD or boot floppy? Used to be
> you could pass in "init=/bin/sh" from LILO, and work some /etc/shadow
> magic. (like copy the hashed root password from a different system)
> But GRUB is different...
I just tried that from GRUB [selected the menu item hit 'e' to edit on
the kernel line appened init=/bin/sh then 'b' to boot] hey-presto no
flippin password needed! and there was me thinking my laptop was almost
secure!!

how can i prevent this from working? 
[apart from bios password]

hugh


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Re: recover lost root password

2003-03-09 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:57:24PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote:
> > I just tried that from GRUB [selected the menu item hit 'e' to edit on
> > the kernel line appened init=/bin/sh then 'b' to boot] hey-presto no
> > flippin password needed! and there was me thinking my laptop was almost
> > secure!!
> >
> > how can i prevent this from working?
> > [apart from bios password]
> >
> > hugh
> 
> Password-protect GRUB. See 
> http://www.gnu.org/manual/grub-0.90/html_mono/grub.html#
Thankyou! i should have looked there..

> Here's the full recipe, there are some tricky bits:

 shadowmagik 

> Now when you log in as root, it will not ask for a password.
excuse my rudeness but isnt that a Bad Thing?

what about ssh? does that leave the box totaly open?

I will add password prot to grub but im not removig password from root
acount!

thanks

hugh


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Re: recover lost root password

2003-03-09 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:01:48AM -0600, Ian Melnick wrote:
> > > Now when you log in as root, it will not ask for a password.
> > excuse my rudeness but isnt that a Bad Thing?
> > 
> > what about ssh? does that leave the box totaly open?
> 
> Well, you could edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and not allow root logins at
> all. Log in as a regular user and then su root from there.
> 
> Question, though. I thought when you boot into single-user mode you're
> already root and you can just change the root password by running
> passwd. Is it different now?
no, your right. I was a little off-topic for the thread. I was going on
about laptop security [ie passwording grub] wheras the original thread
was about how to change root password. So the shadow magik for removing
root password is fine for that as leaving the root acount passwordless
was never intended as long term.

excuse my confusion

hugh

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Re: Bad Debian (L.A.H.)

2003-03-09 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 06:10:07PM +0100, J. Lambrecht wrote:
> // I am not on the list so please, reply to all
> 
> 
> Sigh, and now i now why Debian's not for kids
> 
> ---
> "From : Linux Administrator Handbook p.35 (Prentice Hall,2002) "
> 
> Debian startup scripts
> 
> If SuSE is the ultimate example of a well-designed, well-executed plan
> for the management of startup scripts, Debian is the exact opposite. The
> Debian scripts are fragile, undocumented, and unbelievably incosistent.
> Sadly, it appears that the lack of a standard way of setting up scripts
> has resulted in chaos in this case. Bad Debian!
> ...
> Good Luck
> ---
> 
> Does anyone now if the SuSE startup scripts would work on Debian, or are
> there more well-planned startupscripts available for Debian. 
Have used suse.. so it had pretty green sucess lists but that doesnt
make it great! have you personally found anything wrong with debians
implementation of init? -i havent.

hugh


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Re: Only Modem Is Detected

2003-03-09 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 04:58:39PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote:
> I have a modem and a NIC. The modem is a PCI WinModem (forget brand 
> atm), the NIC is a LinkSys Fast Ethernet 10/100 Network Anywhere, model 
> number NC100U. I know it works as I was able to use it under RedHat. I 
> cannot for the life me figure out what packages to install (other then 
> dhcp, which is installed and running) to try and connect to the net via 
> my router (also a LinkSys product).

the wisdom of the archives says
ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/network/tulip.c

works fine with the above linksys nic. Before you try that i would try
#modprobe tulip

and see if the tulip driver for your currently running kernel works.

google is good!

hugh


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entrance exam [was wt?(long and fustrated)]

2003-03-11 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:48:30AM -0700, Glenn English wrote:
> I've got to agree with David Krider's complaints about the Debian
> install process. This isn't rocket science; it's just a hardware prober.
> If the 'lesser' distros can install in one try (and without rebooting
> several times), surely the mighty Debian can. This install process seems
> to be a test that must be passed in order to join the Debian community.
> 
> OTOH, the first programming language I learned was assembly; LISP was
> the second. Everything's been pretty easy since then. 
you is hardcore :-)

> Back to the entrance exam, and thanks again.
Well its the best exam ive ever sat!

IMHO the installer is fine but i tend to just let it install the base
system then i do the rest -installing and configuring with apt and vim
:-) 

the best modification i can think of to the installer would be to use
grub not lilo but thats just my opinion

hugh


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woody base system

2003-03-11 Thread Hugh Saunders
IIRC potato had a base system which was a tar, so if you wanted to
setup a new root [ie for nfs mount by a diskless workstation] then you
could expand that archive and you would have a basic system. I think it
was about 15MB [excuse the subjectiveness!]

anyway, i was looking on the woody cd:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cdrom# find -size +10240k
./pool/main/e/emacs21/emacs21_21.2-1_i386.deb
./pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.4.18/kernel-source-2.4.18_2.4.18-5_all.deb
./pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.2.20/kernel-source-2.2.20_2.2.20-5_all.deb
./pool/main/t/tetex-base/tetex-base_1.0.2+20011202-2_all.deb

and i couldnt find it! so i looked a little harder for base related
things and came across three dirs in /pool/main/b but none of them are
big enough to contain the base system

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cdrom/pool/main/b# du -h base-*
129kbase-config
33k base-files
19k base-passwd

hmm using dpkg-deb -c shows that none of these files contain binaries
for apt which i would of thought of as fairly necessary for a base
system. Apt [quite logically] is found in /pool/main/a/apt. So when you
install woody and it says "installing the base system" is it just
using a dpkg running from cd to install debs to a root on /target?

so then, how do i install a minimal system to a dir for a
diskless terminal to use?

I feel so stupid.. I tell many people to go apt-cache search before
posting and i hadnt...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search diskless
bootparamd - Boot parameter server.
diskless - Generate NFS file structure for diskless boot.
diskless-image-secure - Files required for secure NFS-Root image.
diskless-image-simple - Files required for simple NFS-Root image.
m68k-vme-tftplilo - Linux kernel TFTP boot loader for m68k VME ...
netboot - Booting of a diskless computer
rarpd - Reverse Address Resolution Protocol daemon

I will post this anyway incase it helps anyone who was thinking of the
same question.

hugh


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Re: entrance exam [was wt?(long and fustrated)]

2003-03-11 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 06:01:01PM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:44:26PM -0700, Glenn English wrote:
> > The main reason I'm beating my head against this wall is because Debian
> > *doesn't* do things like replace LILO with GRUB. Things take a while;
> > possibly because there's nobody available to do them, but I'd like to
> > think it's more because the powers that be are more careful about
> > introducing the latest bleeding edge GUI toy (not to imply that GRUB is
> > a toy).
> 
> So why not just install GRUB yourself?
Thats my solution [as previously posted]

> I can't understand how people consider the install that difficult...
yeah, 

i guess if you have weird hardware there might be probs but thats
not install; thats configure.

having said that,i have a range of hardware from 66mhz-1.13ghz
laptops,desktops various vendors/components -all have installed fine the
only machine i havent managed to boot debian on is my applepowerbook520
and thats only becyause its internal NIC isnt supported so i cant be
bothered to try.


hugh


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Re: woody base system

2003-03-11 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 01:02:53AM +0200, Birzan George Cristian wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 08:22:11PM +0000, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > so then, how do i install a minimal system to a dir for a
> > diskless terminal to use?
> 
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-preparing.en.html#s-linux-upgrade
> That part of the isntall guide should be exactly what you need, minus
> the boot loader and such. (Though, I have no doubt you'll be able to
> figure it out on your own :-))
thanks! may take some coffee though ;-)

> Short version:
> You should (and I say should because I never really bothered to see how
> it's really done) use debootstrap to install (this is, I think, what
> you were looking for in the first place, no?):
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/base-images-current/basedebs.tar
that is the file i was looking for, thanks. The thing that confuses me
is that if debootstrap is the officially way to install debian and that
uses the above file, why isnt the above file on CD1?

hugh


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Re: newbie mutt questions

2003-03-11 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:56:15PM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote:
> Sorry for this newbie type of questions, but how do you move mail messages to 
> another folder when in mutt?
's' in mutt index, then specify the target mbox/maildir

prob more usefull to do 
t
~O
;s

this does:
1. prompt for tag pattern [shift-t]
2. tag all old messages
3. tag save [; means do the next action to all tagged messages not just
the sleected one]

you could change ~O to whatvever
read mutt manual sect 4.2 [i was pointed at that recently on the mutt
user lists!]

hugh


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Re: woody base system

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:50:29PM +0200, Birzan George Cristian wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 01:06:54AM +0000, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > that is the file i was looking for, thanks. The thing that confuses me
> > is that if debootstrap is the officially way to install debian and that
> > uses the above file, why isnt the above file on CD1?
> 
> Because debootstrap can also get the .debs from a repository, in this
> case, the install CD. basedebs.tar is composed by the .debs needed to
> install the base system, which .debs can be taken from the CD too.
good, dont need to download basedebs.tar then :-)
hugh [15mb is a pain over 56k]


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X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 05:00:46PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
> > So, is there a more modern way to "hotwire" two boxes without the
> > use of routers or extra file systems? Is it possible to do a
> > straight USB to USB or NIC to NIC connection?
> 
> There's something called an ethernet crossover cable, you can hookup two
> machines back to back with this and not need a hub.
on the subject of crossover cables, do you know where you can get
adapters that go on the end of normal patch cables to convert them
to crossover? 

The reason i ask is because i only want to carry one network cable in
laptop bag but would be useful to have a crossover cable sometimes..

thanks 

hugh


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Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:59:23PM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote:
> It's somewhat pointless to have an adapter I would think since you are still
> going to need the male RJ-45 end on both ends.  If you going to carry and
> adapter and a cable isn't just as easy to carry two cables?  If you really
> want to do it, one easy way would be to butcher an existing patch cable and
> cut off one end and get one of the wall jack inserts for cat-5 and punch it
> down as a crossover.

male end of   Cross-over adapter  
Rj-45 straightthat clips on the
through cable end of rj-45 cable.
______ 
\___   \___   \___
   ___|   ___|   ___|
/  /__/

im sure i have seen one of these somewhere, just cant remember where!

your idea of making one isnt bad but if the 'adapter' is gonna be a
cable, as you say; i might as well just carry two cables.

hugh


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Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 06:29:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:34:02 +
> Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > on the subject of crossover cables, do you know where you can get
> > adapters that go on the end of normal patch cables to convert them
> > to crossover? 
> > 
> > The reason i ask is because i only want to carry one network cable in
> > laptop bag but would be useful to have a crossover cable sometimes..
> > 
> This sounds like a do-it-yourself job. Take about six inches of cat-5, put a regular 
> connector on one end and a female connector on the other. Switch the wires on either 
> one end or the other to make it crossover.
yeah, need to smile at someone who has crimpers :-)

hugh


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Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:50:16PM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote:
> > Hey, that gives me an idea. How about a cable with two heads 
> > on one end, 
> > one being a crossover? Or would that introduce noise?
> >
> 
> It will work but it won't be "certified" for 100Mbit... :-)
now thats an even better idea! as long as some twit doesnt try and use
them both at once!

> > On a side note, newer Macintoshes will autosense the need to 
> > internally 
> > create a crossover connection on their ethernet ports, and will 
> > autonegotiate which end does it when you connect two Macs. 
> > Really cool!
> > 
> 
> Yeah but who wants a Smash-n-toss??  ;-)
me gots a powerbook520 and it is so fustrating! there are no flippin
keyboard commands! click finder to switch between netscape and telnet!
grrr.

hugh

ps: have looked at debian port for mac but the only hardware that isnt
supported is the nic, so there wouldnt be much point in trying that.


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Re: X-over cables

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 06:58:22PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Alan Shutko wrote:
> 
> >Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>im sure i have seen one of these somewhere, just cant remember where!
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=crossover+adapter
> >
> > 
> >
> Yep; just what you're looking for.
> 
> http://4u-depot.com/catenrjcrosa.html
If i lived in the US ;-)
Delivery would be a bit of a prob.

im in the uk, so as suggested already i think this will be a diy proj
-is looking quite interesting -esp the double-headed idea!

hugh


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Re: X-over cables [& googling]

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 08:43:54PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > If i lived in the US ;-)
> > Delivery would be a bit of a prob.
> >
> > im in the uk, so as suggested already i think this will be a diy
> > proj
> 
> Yes, because google can't search for places in the
> UK http://www.solwise.co.uk/networking_sundries.htm 
/me had googled unsuccessfully for uk places. better learn to google
better!

thanks,

hugh


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smartctl vs cat

2003-03-13 Thread Hugh Saunders
hello,
I have a hdd which i suspect id dieing [yes i have burnt cds of any
important stuf] this drive is in a windows box, so stuck in knoppix cd
for diagnostics.

cat /dev/hda >/dev/null

gives no output [no errors?] -me thought that would be a good indication
that all sectors of the disk are readable. But im not convinced so tried
smartctl.

smarctl -x /dev/hda gives nasties such as irq timeout, status timeout,
drive not ready for command, read failure, input/output error.

sounds happy doesnt it!

the disk can be replaced -im convinced its dead now!

but why did the cat work successfully??
would i have seen errors if i hadnt directed to /dev/null?
[well if i could read them fast enough while the garbage is scrolling]
the prob with cat without the redirect is the beeping is far to annoying
and even if i use setterm -blengh 0 before hand, the beeping starts
fairly soon anyway [i guess this is to do with the random data from the
hdd comin across the right escape sequence to re-enable the bell?
-chances are fairly small i would have thought]

i thought i should be ok as using > in that context diverts the main
output not standard error

can anyone explain why the cat worked? 

thanks

hugh


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Re: smartctl vs cat

2003-03-13 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 02:58:19AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.14.0221 +0100]:
> > can anyone explain why the cat worked? 
> 
> it is entirely possible that reads work fine, just that writes don't
> stick. so say a given byte is 0xcf and when you read it, you get
> 0xcf, but when you write 0x45 to it, it either remains as 0xcf
> or goes to something whacky like 0x9e or whatever.
that makes sense, i hadnt considered that cat only tests reading.

> if S.M.A.R.T. says the disk is dying, get the data off. you did
> that. good. now get a new disk.
will do!

hugh


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Re: Laptop PCMCIA Ethernet Card and Wireless

2003-03-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 06:39:32PM -0500, Metnetsky wrote:
> I also have a PCMCIA wireless card,
> suggestions or links on how I might go about installing that?
what is it?

linux-wlan-ng, is a good place to start.
[http://www.linux-wlan.com/linux-wlan/]

wlan is fun:-)

hugh

ps: this isnt for installation but if your ever curious about what
exactly is radiating through your brain...  http://www.kismetwireless.net/


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RH [Auto apt-get upgrade]

2003-03-16 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 01:52:46PM +, Richard Kimber wrote:
> --
> Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/

having fun with RH?

hugh


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kill with regex?

2003-01-19 Thread Hugh Saunders
ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill

1609 ?S  0:01 xine /dev/hdc
1610 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
1618 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
1619 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
1620 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc

tried
kill 16[1234567890]* 

which returned
bash: kill: 16[1234567890]*: no such pid

1) is the regexp correct to match the pids of the processes?
2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?

thanks

hugh


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silent Kismet

2003-01-19 Thread Hugh Saunders
hello, have been having problems getting kismet to play audio -this
would be usefull so can have laptop closed  and listen with
headphones for available networks [ie walking through town]

in my kismet.conf i have the lines:
sound=true
# Path to sound player
soundplay=/usr/bin/wavp
# Optional parameters to pass to the player
# soundopts=--volume=.3
# New network found
sound_new=/usr/local/share/kismet/wav/new_network.wav
# Network traffic sound
sound_traffic=/usr/local/share/kismet/wav/traffic.wav
# Network junk traffic found
sound_junktraffic=/usr/local/share/kismet/wav/junk_traffic.wav

if i run /usr/bin/wavp /usr/local/share/kismet/wav/new_network.wav 
then i get sound but the kismet program is silent, any ideas?

thanks

hugh
-who is not a wepcracker just would like to be able to find public
WiFi networks [faster than 9600 from mob!]


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Re: kill with regex?

2003-01-19 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:35:36PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> 'pkill xine' is better if you have a new enough version of procps, since
> 'killall' does ... let's say surprising things on System V-ish variants
> of Unix.
will that kill any process with xine in its name? or just processes
called 'xine' 

killall xine didnt work as i think the arguments are included in the
process name.

thanks for your comments.. [and everyone else -like the look of the
awk but really dont know anything about it so gotta do some reading
-maybe after exams!]

hugh


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Re: kill with regex?

2003-01-19 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 10:22:13AM +1100, Michael Wardle wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 02:40, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
> 
> My preferred method is:
> $ kill `ps -C xine -o pid=`
> OR
> $ ps -C xine -o pid= | xargs kill
> 
> This is subtly different from the other suggestions (such as "killall
> xine"), as it kills anything beginning with xine.  This is very useful
> for killing evolution and its components when a major error occurs.

that makes sense, this is my understanding: 
-C means command name, -o defines the desired format
of the ps output and xargs uses whatever is piped to it as the argument for
kill?

hugh


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Re: how to determine hd partitioning?

2003-01-19 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 06:08:13AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 06:30:24PM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney 
>([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I had my *newest* computer's motherboard crap out on me Friday night,
> > and I'm trying to grab the data from its hard drive. I've thrown it into
> > my older machine, and it's being recognized fine as /dev/hdd -- but I
> > can't remember its partitioning scheme, and thus don't know what
> > partition(s) to mount and what fs they each use (it had dual-booted
> > windows and debian before, hence the need for both partition and
> > fs-type).
> > 
> > How can I determine the drive's partition scheme?
cfdisk should list partitions?

hugh


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Re: kill with regex?

2003-01-20 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:11:29AM +1100, Michael Wardle wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 10:41, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 10:22:13AM +1100, Michael Wardle wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 02:40, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > > > ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
> > > 
> > > My preferred method is:
> > > $ kill `ps -C xine -o pid=`
> > > OR
> > > $ ps -C xine -o pid= | xargs kill
> > > 
> > that makes sense, this is my understanding: 
> > -C means command name, -o defines the desired format
> > of the ps output and xargs uses whatever is piped to it as the
> > argument for kill?
> 
> Yes, "-C" matches processes named "xine" (and apparently any process
> whose name begins with "xine"), "-o pid=" means show a list of process
> IDs without a header line, the backquotes insert the output of the shell
> command, and xargs passes its arguments read from the pipe to the
> command named as its first parameter.  (Just like you said.)
> 
so now we have the understanding, why dont they die?

anni:~# ps -C xine -o pid= 
1609
1610
1618
1619
1620
anni:~# ps -C xine -o pid= |xargs kill
anni:~# ps -C xine -o pid= 
1609
1610
1618
1619
1620
anni:~# 

if more info needed, ask and ill insert whatever! 
dont really want to reboot but these xines are annoying!!

hugh


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Re: kill with regex?

2003-01-20 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:35:08PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:18:39PM +0000, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > so now we have the understanding, why dont they die?
> > 
> > anni:~# ps -C xine -o pid= 
> > 1609
> > 1610
> > 1618
> > 1619
> > 1620
> > anni:~# ps -C xine -o pid= |xargs kill
> > anni:~# ps -C xine -o pid= 
> > 1609
> > 1610
> > 1618
> > 1619
> > 1620
> > anni:~# 
> 
> Try 'xargs kill -9'?

anni:~# ps -C xine -o pid= |xargs kill -9
anni:~# ps -C xine -o pid=   
anni:~# 

gottem! thanks

hugh


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Re: debian on old powerbook?

2003-01-20 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 07:06:35AM -0800, anthony baldwin wrote:
> I have several old Apple Powerbooks (140, 145)
> They don;t have CD drives and I can't connect them to my dsl, because they have no
> ethernet ports.
is it that they really dont have any ethernet or that they have thicknet
rather than standard ethernet -i have a powerbook510 and it needs a
transciever between the mac and the rj45 patch cable.
-havent ventured as far as linux on it -v small disk. It runs a terminal
emulater and thats all i would use it for in linux anyway!

hugh


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Re: (forw) [hugh@mjr.org: Re: Quick aptitude question...]

2003-01-20 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:20:25PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote:
> - Forwarded message from Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:57:15 +0000
> From: Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i
> X-SpamProbe: 
> Subject: Re: Quick aptitude question...
> X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean
> 
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 09:22:46PM +, iain d broadfoot wrote:
> > * ZephyrQ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > 
> > >   I'm trying to take better control of my installation, and fired up
> > > aptitude.  I inadvertently tried to do an upgrade (to woody rc1) a while
> > > back and am trying to cancel it.  Is there a way to 'wipe' queued
> > > actions and/or reset aptitude?
> > > 
> > 
> > when you hit 'g' to get the 'do this' screen, select the lines that say
> > 'install' or 'upgrade' or similar, and hit '_' to purge, '-' to remove
> > or '=' to hold(hold means keep installed, don't upgrade) - this should
> > cut down the number of things on the todo list.
> if youve told aptitude you want to upgrade a package, but havent
> actually done the upgrade,  how do you then
> reset its status to installed -its  a pain to do hold as that break
> dependencies when you upgrade other things.
> 
> hugh
> 
> - End forwarded message -
> 
> i'm not sure you can, using aptitude - it likes upgrading automatically.
> have a look in the options to see if you can turn off that behaviour.
> 
> at the same time, why do you want to avoid woodyr1 exactly?
not avoiding woodyr1 but i dont have fast connection [56k dialup] so i
want to aptiutude to install what i select and its dependencies [nothing
else- bit like apt-get install -which is what i end up using!] but as
ive fiddled about with it, aptitude has a list of about 150 packages it
wants to upgrade/install so everytime i use aptitude i use the shift-i
to only install what i want. [if want to upgrade, do apt-get update &&
apt-get upgrade -y and leve it over night!]

so not essential as can  use apt-get but to make aptitude more usefull
it would be good to be able synchronise its status with the current
system package status

hugh

ps: replying to right place this time!


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Re: Own kernel doesn't work

2003-01-21 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:35:18PM +0100, Michael Schlottke wrote:
[lots of stuff about kernel compilation]
> Can anyone give me a hint what I could try else?
1. did you select the correct arch? try 386 if its failing. 
2. use make-kpkg -shouldnt make any difference but is [i find] a better
way of doing things.

hugh


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Re: Mapping eth0 two ways

2003-01-24 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 08:22:32PM +, Soren A wrote:
> One thing I need to achive, that is failing apparently, is assigning a
> different MAC address to my NIC than the one 'hard-coded' in or
> automatic to, that card. The reason being of course that my cable
> provider tracks MACs and won't allow connection by a new system (as
> sensed by a different MAC address). But it seems like the card isn't
> accepting the change, even though the HOWTOs and docus seem to say that
> most cards will: 
> 
>   root$ifconfig eth0 down
>   root$ifconfig eth0 [IP] netmask [NETMASK] hw ether AB:CD:EF:01:02:03 [up]
> 
> If anyone can see what I might be doing wrong in that command above please 
> help me out!
the following works for me:
ifconfig eth0 [inet] 192.168.0.6 netmask 255.255.255.0 hw ether  AB:CD:EF:01:02:03 [up]
with our without the inet and the up.

anni:/home/hugh# ifconfig 
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr AB:CD:EF:01:02:03  
  inet addr:192.168.0.6  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0

find it much easier to put these details in /etc/network/interfaces

what error do you get? or does ifconfig still show the orig. mac
address?

hugh


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Re: Window Managers

2003-01-25 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 04:28:45PM +1100, James Buchanan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When I run `startx' I would like afterstep to run, and I would like a menu
> giving me a list of all the window managers/desktop environments that I can
> run.  How do I tell startx to run afterstep by default?  I have done `man
> startx'  but it's all incomprehensible gibberish to me!  :-(  I did look at
> xinitrc but again, I can't read shell scripts.  None of it looks obvious to
> me unfortunately.  Oh yes, apparently Gnome is installed, but how do I run
> it?
put the window manager you would like to start with [afterstep?] in your .xession file.

shell [bash] scripts really arent that bad, read some bash howtos and
bash-scripting howtos.

hugh --no expert but can now manage a simple script!


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Re: make-kpkg install question

2003-01-25 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:51:51PM -0500, Ramsay D. Seielstad wrote:
>I have not seen (or found an answer for) is an option for
> installation into the directories using the version revision.
once you have used make-kpkg kernel_image and make-kpkg modules_image
then you can install the resulting packages using dpkg -i this will put
things in the right place and set up symlinks in / to the actual images
in /boot.

-you only need to do make-kpkg modules_image if you have extra modules
in /usr/src/modules/*

hugh

ps: dont know if you do already but use grub, then you can boot from an
image even if it isnt where you expected it to be.


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Re: M$ Curse

2003-01-25 Thread Hugh Saunders
Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 02:22:46PM +0100, Jernej Zidar wrote:
> After a Windows reinstall, I have lost lilo. How do I install lilo or any
> bootloader, so I will be able to access my linux system?
boot from cd, with cmd line "rescue root=/dev/hd??" then run lilo.
[or better, instead of running lilo, apt-get install grub]

note: unless you add your windows partition to /etc/lilo.conf before you
run lilo, you will not be able a to boot your windows instalation.

hugh


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Re: pci scan

2003-01-25 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:31AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
> Is there some tool that you can use to autoscan your hardware?
not sure what you mean by 'autoscan' but lspci [-vv] or cat /proc/pci
will give you info about installed pci devices. 

hugh


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Re: redirect of "ls --color" causes problems

2003-01-25 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 11:54:29AM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
>   'chsh /bin/zsh', then ls() { /bin/ls --color=auto --classify "$@"; }
please explain...

hugh


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Re: pci scan

2003-01-26 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:06:23PM +0700, Mouammer H. Rayes wrote:
> kata  Hugh Saunders
> > On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 05:21:31AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
> >> Is there some tool that you can use to autoscan your hardware?
> > not sure what you mean by 'autoscan' but lspci [-vv] or cat /proc/pci
> > will give you info about installed pci devices.
> >
> > hugh
> >
> 
> Or you can just
> #apt-get install discover
> 
> I installed it on my box and it autoscans all my hardware perfectly.
I saw this line the other day: For google's sake, keep replies on the
list!

thanks for the advice! 

hugh


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Re: (forw) [hugh@mjr.org: Re: Quick aptitude question...]

2003-01-26 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:46:41PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> # aptitude install bleh
 
Yeah, i figured that but then i thought why not apt-get!! 
Would still be good to be able to sync the aptitude package status with
the actual package status, is this possible?

hugh


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Re: Bad Magic

2003-01-26 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 08:31:50PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
> What does this mean?
not sure but if my comp said that, id get some coffee or go to bed [is 1:58
localtime]

-im sure some kernel-hackers will come up with some more helpful
suggestions!

hugh


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[OT] sparc-->mac serial cable

2003-01-28 Thread Hugh Saunders
Hello, i am attempting to build a serial cable so i can use an old mac
laptop [powerbook510] to boot a sun sparc ipc and start it network booting. 
Google reveals the following pinouts:

AppleMac [1]
DIN8Signal  Description
Pin
--
1   RTS Handshake output
2   CTS Handshake input
3   TXD-Transmit data (inverted)
4   SG  GND
5   RXD-Receive data (inverted)
6   TXD+Transmit data
7   DCD General Purpose Input
8   RXD+Receive data

Sparc IPC [2]
DIN8Signal  Description
Pin 
--
1   DTR Data Terminal Ready
2   CTS Clear to Send
3   TXD Transmit Data
4   GND Ground
5   RXD Receive Data
6   RTS Request to Send
7   DCD Data Carrier Detect
8   RTXCReceive Clock

My first question is: how do i wire it? do i try and match the pins up ie
RTS-->RTS or do i cross over as in RTS-->CTS?

Next question, whats with TXD[+-] on the mac but only TXD on the sparc? can
i just use TXD+ -->TXD? [or TXD+ -->RXD if crossed over] then ignore
TXD-?

The weak debian link is that it will [if i ever get it booted]
be a debian box :-)

thanks,

hugh

Datafrom:
[1]http://62.194.125.41:8080/pinouts/mac_pc_serial.html
[2]http://www.stokely.com/unix.serial.port.resources/A-B-Ycablepinout.html#ipc.ipx.link


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Re: [OT] sparc-->mac serial cable

2003-01-28 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:05:18PM +0100, Frank Gevaerts wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 06:12:10PM +0000, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > Hello, i am attempting to build a serial cable so i can use an old mac
> > laptop [powerbook510] to boot a sun sparc ipc and start it network booting. 
> > Google reveals the following pinouts:
> > 
> > AppleMac [1]
> > DIN8Signal  Description
> > Pin
> > --
> > 1   RTS Handshake output
> > 2   CTS Handshake input
> > 3   TXD-Transmit data (inverted)
> > 4   SG  GND
> > 5   RXD-Receive data (inverted)
> > 6   TXD+Transmit data
> > 7   DCD General Purpose Input
> > 8   RXD+Receive data
> > 
> > Sparc IPC [2]
> > DIN8Signal  Description
> > Pin 
> > --
> > 1   DTR Data Terminal Ready
> > 2   CTS Clear to Send
> > 3   TXD Transmit Data
> > 4   GND Ground
> > 5   RXD Receive Data
> > 6   RTS Request to Send
> > 7   DCD Data Carrier Detect
> > 8   RTXCReceive Clock
> > 
> > My first question is: how do i wire it? do i try and match the pins up ie
> > RTS-->RTS or do i cross over as in RTS-->CTS?
> > 
> > Next question, whats with TXD[+-] on the mac but only TXD on the sparc? can
> > i just use TXD+ -->TXD? [or TXD+ -->RXD if crossed over] then ignore
> > TXD-?
> 
> I would wire TX+->RX, RX+->TX, and GND->GND, and leave the rest
> unconnected at first, and if you really need hardware handshaking,
> RTS<->CTS and CTS<->RTS.
Thanks, i understand up to here...

> IIRC some systems also need DTR and /or DCD to
> be wired high
wired high?

will try with just the three you suggest for now...

thanks,

hugh

ps: sorry if the first table is mashed! got figure what mutt does with
tabs but thats a different issue.


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Re: How crazy is it to run 2.4.20 on woody?

2003-01-30 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 01:13:12PM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> Greetings-
> 
> I'd like to use kernel 2.4.20 because (apparently) it drives my machine's
> built-in sound
> ref: 
>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=20021218232653.45c6eac7.cgrimland%40yahoo.com.lucky.linux.kernel&rnum=6&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%3Dgigabyte%2Bga-7vax%2Blinux%2Bsound%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg
> 
> But I don't want to upgrade to testing or unstable in general. How crazy
> is it to do this?
why would it be crazy? woody ships with 2.4.20

i have used 2.4.20 since i installed woody using the bf24 flavour.
[i now use a 2.4.21-pre3 patched for acpi and even that is stable]

used 2.40.20 on potato before woody and that was fine to.

hugh


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Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?

2003-02-01 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:11:51PM -0800, nate wrote:
> Mike M said:
>
> > What email clients and browsers do you use?
>
> my mail client is squirrelmail(webmail). at work I started with
> netscape 4 for mail then moved to mozilla once it got stable enough
> for use. console email clients don't seem to have the features
> I need.

what do you want to do that mutt cant?

hugH


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[jamesbuch@iprimus.com.au: Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?]

2003-02-02 Thread Hugh Saunders
think this was supposed to be a list reply... but came to me only

hugh

- Forwarded message from James Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:21:01 +1100
From: "James Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hugh Saunders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Desktop environment---what am I missing?

> what do you want to do that mutt cant?

I would like to add my two cents here (possibly less :-)

I found Mutt extremely hard to use.  I think it used a configuration script
or something, like ~/.muttrc, and I could never make it do what I wanted.

The main features I wanted were: make new directories to filter mail, and as
the mail comes in it gets redirected based on headers, body and/or subject
line; and a feature found in KMail: bounce email back to sender.

As a result, and because I don't have ADSL hardware to work with Linux, I am
forced to use Winodws for all Internet related stuff and Linux for
everything else.  I wish I could get easy to install and configure ADSL
hardware.  Then I could ditch Windows for ever.

Thanks -
James


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Re: More detailed post ...

2003-02-04 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:34:04PM +, Dave Selby wrote:
> OK Ive had a brainstorming session on how to do this, what I need to know is,
> 
> 1. Is there a downloader for debian that will handle broken downloads ? If 
> not can anyone recommend one ?
apt-get ;-)

> 2. How do I sent an 'ATZ' reset string to my modem from the command line ?
echo "ATZ" >/dev/modem?

hugh


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Re: mounting filesystems

2003-02-05 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:32:22AM -0500, David Turetsky wrote:
> When I manually try to mount them, for example, 'mount -a', I get mount
> point /c does not exist and same for /d and /e
does the directory /c exist?

test -d /c || mkdir /c

hugh


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mac address change

2003-02-08 Thread Hugh Saunders
hello,
to use WiFi@uni, need to have a registered mac address. It costs to
register mac addresses so if i have the wrong WiFi card with me i want
to change the address to the registered one.

My method is as follows:
ifconfig wlan0 hw ether xx:xx:...
the response is:
cannot assign the specified address

[that might not be exact, this is from memory]

The mac address is correct [i copied it from the output of ifconfig]
is it that cards cant accept addresses asigned to other manufacturers?

thanks,

hugh


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Re: Wildly, wildly OT (was Re: shuttle disaster)

2003-02-08 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 04:29:52AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
> What this has to do with user issues of implementing and maintaining a
> Debian GNU/Linux system, on whatever platform is selected, I would say
> has long been lost. From my days on Usenet, there are numerous areas
> where this discussion would be on-topic. Please, agree on one, and take
> it there.
it was a good point... 

but then you completely ruined it by continuing the politics discussion on this
list!

hugh


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Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 09:57:04AM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote:
> Thanks for the tips. If something breaks, I can dual-boot back to RH, but I 
> haven't been spending much time there lately...
i havent read all of this thread, but why not just using testing or
stable, why use all three?
I find stable is what it says on the tin.  I have one testing machine
[laptop] and an unstable box to try out new stuff. I wouldnt use testing
on a vital machine as i dont know enough yet :-)

hugh


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vim undel

2003-02-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
hello, i use vim to weed out large chunks of email so can quote
[hopefully] the relevant bits. My method is :x,yd this is fine until i
get one of the values wrong, then i may have deleted 10 more lines than
expected. In the vim documentation i have found how to undo edits to one
line but how can i restore a load of text ive delted? has it gone into
some random buffer?

thanks

hugh


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Re: vim undel

2003-02-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:41:54PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 the mental interface of 
> Hugh Saunders told:
> 
> > hello, i use vim to weed out large chunks of email so can quote
> > [hopefully] the relevant bits. My method is :x,yd this is fine until i
> > get one of the values wrong, then i may have deleted 10 more lines than
> > expected. In the vim documentation i have found how to undo edits to one
> > line but how can i restore a load of text ive delted? has it gone into
> > some random buffer?
> 
> Try simply "u" as often as you want to ;-)
thanks:-)

hugh


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Re: Machines with Debian preinstalled?

2003-02-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 02:06:48PM -0800, A.J. Rossini wrote:
> (yes, I can do it myself; done that about 20+ times, at this point,
> and have FAI running at home BUT, I'd really like to save time at this
> point...).
will customisng each of the stock installations take less time than a
clean install?

hugh


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Re: Newbie Installation Problems

2003-02-14 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:25:14AM -0800, Rowland Fellows wrote:
> However, once installed, the system goes 
> directly into a login screen from which I cannot login into root.
What happens when you try and login as root? [on console]
by default you can login as root on console or by ssh [as long as sshd
is running].

hugh


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Re: PCI graphics cards recommendations

2003-02-14 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:02:05PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:03:08PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> > FWIW I'm running X4.2, with a 15" CRT and a K6-III/550Mhz.  I'd be
> > looking to try Quake I/II/III (or as far as the K6 will let me go),
> > and general desktoppy stuff.  I'd like to have the facility to run 
> 
> You won't be running Quake II, or at least at a comfortable framerate,
> on a PCI graphics adapter.  You won't be doing Quake III at all.
hmm have only attempted GL on one pci graphics card, was an ati rageII+
nastyness.  what i have found is that old graphics cards that hardcore
gaming people throw out are perfectly good for people like me who only
play occasionally. I use a 32mb gf2mx [agp] that my friend was getting
rid of and that runs halflife-cstrike|q3 fine [dont like q3 though.]

so yeah PCI does lack bandwith but you dont need to spend ££ on a
superwizzy swineforce4[1] in order to play games! just find someone who
does, and use their old one!

[1]hackles.org :-)

hugh


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Re: more kernel questions

2003-02-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 12:54:02AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> I've just compiled and installed a new kernel, using make-kpkg. However,
> I'm not sure it's actually running. uname -a still gives me 2.4.18-586tsc,
> which is the old one - my new kernel doesn't have the 586tsc bit on the
> end of the name, and in any case is a 686 kernel - I've recently upgraded
> the motherboard. Also, all the references during boot are to 
> /lib/modules/2.3.18-586tsc, rather than /lib/modules/2.4.18.
> 
> lilo was run by the install script, and I've run it again to make sure.
> 
> Is there something else I've missed?
1. look in lilo.conf and see what images is being pointed at
2. if that is a symlink, check where it goes
3. consider grub

hugh


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Re: VMWare package

2003-02-16 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 04:57:53PM -0500, John Mitchell wrote:
Content-Description: signed data
> I was wondering if anyone knew of a package of VMWare workstation. I've been 
> having trouble making my own and was hoping that someone else on this list 
> knew better than I.
surely vmware couldnt be included as it is totally non-free?
hugh


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Re: 16MB not enough to install

2003-02-16 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:07:13PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
> I'm running out of memory and am unable to complete the installation.
> 
> I thought this could still be done on 16MB of RAM.
yeah should be possible but slow... cheat; put the disk in another
machine for installation then put it back.

hugh


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Re: Modem Ring Event

2002-10-22 Thread Hugh Saunders
>Tom Cook wrote:
> Can it SMS me the DHCP'd address too?

You could just use dyndns, then you dont kneed to know the ip address as you can use 
the hostname.

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Re: Configuring?

2002-10-24 Thread Hugh Saunders
24/10/2002 23:31:59, "C. Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>First, I know that to see the boot-menu I have to hit shift, which I
>did not have to do in mandrake, as long as I had either
>install=/boot/boot-menu.b in lilo, or I had it linked (boot -> boot-menu.b).
>Can I get it to go to the menu without the need to shift?
put 'prompt' in /etc/lilo.conf then run lilo and reboot
http://linux.ctyme.com/man/man1098.htm

sorry, cant help with the other questions!

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Re: OT - Power Supply 300w or 400w?

2002-10-25 Thread Hugh Saunders
25/10/2002 17:03:19, Chip Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 400w power supply versus standard 300w.  Benefits?
Only thing i can think of is possibly better stabillity when overclocking
but you will only notice the differnce if the alternative is seriously insufficient.

I have a 250w psu powering 2x500mhzCeles which works fine.

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Re: Newbie Questions

2002-10-25 Thread Hugh Saunders
26/10/2002 07:11:14, "C. Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found the a few site on setting up te true-type windows fonts, but this 
>covers only .ttf. Is it any different to do .fon fonts?
i thought .fon werent true type? could be wrong, 


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Re: Kernel compilation

2002-10-30 Thread Hugh Saunders
30/12/2002 19:24:15, "cobb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone explain it, or point me to a document SPECIFIC to Debian? 
install ncurses-dev

im not an expert but if i were to build a new kernel, this is how i would do it...

1. apt-get install libncurses5
2. apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18 [or whatever]
2.1 this should go to /usr/src, untar/zip if its archived
3. make menuconfig [my preference, im sure other people prefer other ways]
4. make dep [never seen any use in make clean -comments anyone?]
5. make bzImage [use -j3 if you are using SMP -much quicker]
6. find bZimage [usually in ./arch/i386/boot]
7. cp bzimage to /boot [anywhere would do but /boot seems logical]
8. edit /etc/lilo.conf -add section image=/boot/bzImage
alias=3
[blahblah]
9. execute lilo

hope that helps,

hugh



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Re: server with debian 3.0 randomly shuts down when booting

2002-11-01 Thread Hugh Saunders
>Benedict Verheyen said:
>>[snip]
>>When i tried to reboot
>> the system it would suddenly shutdown at various points in the
>> startup procedure.

02/11/2002 00:57:14, "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>if the system is powering down on it's own during bootup and you
>do not see the lights flicker or anything I would venture to guess
>it is a heat problem. the CPU may be overheating.

or could be a lack of power problem?
are any of the cpus overclocked?
what is the wattage of your psu?
does it poweroff during processor intensive stages [such as decompression] 
or is it truly 'random'?




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Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking

2002-11-03 Thread Hugh Saunders
03/11/2002 18:29:56, "Thomas H. George"  wrote:
> Before purchasing a DSL Gateway Router I would appreciate
>benefiting from the experience of other debian users.
I have just researched wireless networking, and have decided upon a linksys 
setup [befw11s4 for ap/router, wmp11 for laptops and wpc11 for desktops] 
gear should be delivered on tuesday! so will ask the list for help if i have any 
probs! One of the main advantages to the linksys gear is the support in linux. 
There have been a few reported problems with the wpc11 and wep but apart 
from that all the gear is fully supported.

the linux wlan project has a compatability matrix which is a good start
http://www.linux-wlan.com/linux-wlan/index.html#Compatibility
but there are other resources to be googled for.

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Re: Compiling a new kernel

2002-11-04 Thread Hugh Saunders
04/11/2002 13:12:57, "Emanuele Boieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  then I copied the new image in the boot location of the old one /boot/
>  bzImage.(I saved the old one). So I edit the lilo.conf
if you copied the new image to the same place as the old one, you shouldnt 
need to edit lilo.conf

>  and I specified where  to load the new image. After rebooting
did you actually excecute lilo?

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Re: tftpboot.img

2002-11-05 Thread Hugh Saunders
05/11/2002 03:50:08, Aaron David Vose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Is there a boot image that's around 64k?
>> > netBSD has a two stage system where a 64k boot image is
>> > loaded.  This image then loads the kernel/rootfs over
>> > NFS.
I have a sun-sparc 4c IPC which boots via the network [tftp then nfs root]
so is possible, you need a small image so compile one!
Think tftpboot kernel images are called 'tagged'? do some googling

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Re: Upgrading to a SMP kernel ?

2002-11-05 Thread Hugh Saunders
06/11/2002 09:24:04, "W.D.McKinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a dual PIII server I need to get both processors working.
compile a kernel with SMP enabled

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execute command from HTML page

2002-11-10 Thread Hugh Saunders
hello, i have had major hassle attemting to use diald
[wvdial works fine but diald does not]
so, i want to create a simple html page to serve with apache so that machines on my 
network can click on one of two links
1: dialup -execute wvdial
2: hangup -kill pppd

is this possible to do simply?

thanks,
hugh


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Re: Trying to do a search on Debian home page.

2002-11-11 Thread hugh saunders
11/11/02 21:37:55, infotechsys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So, myquestion is how-come I have to go thru
>freshmeat to do a search on debian ?
freshmeat prob referred to the debian package search [which works] 
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages


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Re: execute command from HTML page

2002-11-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 12:40 am, sean finney wrote:
> just to chime in on this, you should think of the security implications
> of what you're doing.  if you're putting a button on a webpage that
> re-initializes your net connection, then anyone feeling particularly
> riley could keep you without an internet connection.
Yes, i would limit the availablity of the service to within the local network 
as it would not be helpfull if outside users could down my link! 
thanks for the input,

hugh


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Re: Modem connection.

2002-11-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 3:37 pm, infotechsys wrote:
>What do most people use to get a dial-up connection
> working? Will wvdial be a good choice?
I have tried lots of things, and wvdial was the only one that worked! im sure 
that was just due to malconfiguration on behalf but wvdial was v easy to 
setup.

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Re: execute command from HTML page

2002-11-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 1:15 pm, andrej hocevar wrote:
> #! /bin/bash
> pon provider
>
> echo -e "Location: http://thehost/conpage.html \n\n"
thanks, interstingly pon btopenworld works but wvdial doesnt -must be to do 
with users and permissions [lots of "Permission denied" errrors in 
/var/log/apache/error.log] but seeming as pon works... will use that!
I didnt think cgi would be so simple, thought i would have to use a cgi 
intrpreter not bash!

hugh


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Re: dhcp-dns problem

2002-11-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 6:40 am, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> Unfortunately, I'm not very familiar with what BOOTP is.
> All I know is that it allows a computer to get an IP address and some
> basic network information.
in my understanding, bootp is mostly usefull for giving a machine an ip 
address based on its mac address so it can download a tftp image to boot 
from. Guess it could prob be used instead of dhcp for addressing but all the 
'leases' would have to be configured manually in a table i think.

hugh


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Re: Modem connection.

2002-11-13 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wednesday 13 November 2002 2:23 am, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> Fix your dang clock already!  I'm quite sure this month is November not
> January ;-)

that better?
have messed around with date -s so should be correct now!

sorry if i messed up msg order,

hugh


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APIC error

2002-11-13 Thread Hugh Saunders
hello, i use woody with an Abit BP6 [dual cele500] but recently have started 
getting theses errors on the console and in sys log, any ideas?
Nov 14 06:33:41 nomessin kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(02)
Nov 14 06:34:14 nomessin kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 04(08)

hugh


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Re: APIC error [SOLVED]

2002-11-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Thursday 14 November 2002 7:13 am, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> hello, i use woody with an Abit BP6 [dual cele500] but recently have
> started getting theses errors on the console and in sys log, any ideas?
> Nov 14 06:33:41 nomessin kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 08(02)
> Nov 14 06:34:14 nomessin kernel: APIC error on CPU1: 04(08)

As it is winter the heating in my room has just started coming on and there 
is a radiator next to my computers which was overheating them! have turned 
the radiator off and errors disappeared!

hugh


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Re: IRC

2002-11-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:12:26PM -0400, james leclair wrote:
> Hello, what server and channel should I join to talk with other debian 
> users? Thanks in advance!
irc.debian.org #debian

is a good start!


hugh


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Re: [OT] Moving away from KDE to what?

2002-11-15 Thread Hugh Saunders
> P.S. Does anyone knows how do I put a result from command line into
> mutt/vi when sending mail? 

could use the gpm buffer? [select the text then when in insert mode in
vi, middle click to 'paste'] -this works in vim, havent tryed with
pure vi

hugh


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