Re: about 10th new install of bullseye
replace the GPU card Gene it's kaput. C
Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available
I use dphys-swapfile this is a system service that auto configures a swap at boot without requiring a static partition. it computes the size of an optimal swap file and or resizes an existing swap file if necessary. it mounts, dismounts, and deletes the swap if not wanted. it doesn't dynamically resize swap during runtime. -- pa'lante
Re: ogg123, ALSA and Pulseaudio
from a google search: In Debian 10, PipeWire 0.2. 5 is available, and should not need to manually be installed, as it's usually brought in as a dependency by applications that make use of it. In Debian 11, PipeWire 0.3. 19 is available, and can be experimentally used as a substitute for the ALSA userspace library, PulseAudio, and JACK. Apr 5, 2022 then read about WirePlumber. it is time consuming and there are many published instructions, some better than others. WirePlumber and Pipewire are getting frequent upgrades and for me they are increasingly reliable and the sound is really good. my System GTK 3.24.33 / GLib 2.72.1 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 5.17.0-2-amd64 (x86_64)
Re: ogg123, ALSA and Pulseaudio
>Note: I'm using Debian/unstable. I'm using Bookworm as well. I was just happy at first that I had some reliable sound again. but I don't use my desktop with Bluetooth or headphones as you've described in your bug report. Pipewire is waning and WirePlumber is waxing. I'll put it that way.
Re: ogg123, ALSA and Pulseaudio
> PulseAudio is waning and Pipewire is waxing; > WirePlumber is a session manager for Pipewire. ah, just so, I am glad it is.
Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)
> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. I get a login shell with $su --login I don't have sudo installed is there something heretical about that, I should know?
Re: Firewall blocking my new Debian 11 server ports 80 and 443
> Maybe I should remove all firewall progs and start from zero. I would suggest you install Shorewall. it is not the pain in the arse that's been the theme of this thread so far.
nvidia-driver gets a code 1
System Information GTK 3.24.36 / GLib 2.74.5 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 6.1.0-3-amd64 (x86_64) aka Debian 12 bookworm/testing I ran nvidia-detect: ~# nvidia-detect Detected NVIDIA GPUs: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP108 [GeForce GT 1030] [10de:1d01] (rev a1) Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation GP108 [GeForce GT 1030] (rev a1) Your card is supported by all driver versions. Your card is also supported by the Tesla drivers series. Your card is also supported by the Tesla 470 drivers series. It is recommended to install the nvidia-driver on doing a dist-upgrade dpkg says this: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nvidia-driver: nvidia-driver depends on nvidia-kernel-dkms (= 525.89.02-1) | nvidia-kernel-525.89.02 | nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 | nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02; however: Version of nvidia-kernel-dkms on system is 515.86.01-1. Package nvidia-kernel-525.89.02 is not installed. Package nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 is not installed. Package nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 is not installed. This wouldn't seem too much of a problem, just install nvidia-open-kernel-525-89.02, right? # apt install nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Package nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Where is this nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 ? There was an advisory by Andreas Beckmann the firmware-gsp package being moved to the newly created 'non-free-firmware' archive area. This area needs to be enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list) in addition to 'non-free' in order to upgrade to the 525 driver series. He gives this locaton: https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#non-free-split however my /etc/apt/sources.list uses a different syntax to the location Andreas has given and so it can't be read. I attempted to make his location fit the syntax but then apt didn't trust the site and wouldn't use it in the update I need to get nvidia-driver working. Without this driver there is also no sound. I did make an image of the drive before doing the upgrade or I wouldn't be writing this. I did a dpkg -s nvidia-driver and got a lot of stuff about it but there was this: Please see the nvidia-kernel-dkms (nvidia-open-kernel-dkms) or nvidia-kernel-source (nvidia-open-kernel-source) packages for building the kernel module required by this package. This will provide nvidia-kernel-525.89.02 (nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02). C. Kroeger --help
Re: nvidia-driver gets a code 1
Anssi, thanks for your reply. When Andreas Beckmann added this URL to his apt disclosure: https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#non-free-split He does give a useful example of how the entry should look in /etc/apt/sources/list like this: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware and so I did that and it matched up well with the other deb entries excepting for the last part 'firmware' When I did apt update with the new entry I got this warning message: W: Failed to fetch https://deb/debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/InRelease Could not resolve 'deb' on running apt full-upgrade I see this: the following packages have been kept back: nvidia-kernel-dkms This means then nothing can happen until whatever is holding back nvidia-kernel-dkms is resolved because it must provide the missing nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02. Andreas Beckmann is saying adding deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware to the /etc/apt/sources.list will install the firmware for nvidia-kernel-dkms that will then create nvidia-open-kernel. Until apt can resolve the mystery of 'non-free-firmware.' In my /etc/apt/apt/sources.list the entry was accepted until I got to the word firmware and that was whited out and deb can't be resolved. So, the cart is before the horse maybe, but there is more we cannot see. -- Charles Kroeger
Re: nvidia-driver gets a code 1
Ah so a typo. A small thing causing big problems. Once that was corrected the necessary files from firmware were included in an apt update and eventually the full-upgrade without nvidia-kernel-dkms being held back. Everything resolved after that. Thanks -- CK
Re: nvidia-driver gets a code 1
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free non-free-firmware not deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware ? -- CK
Re: motherboad for desktop
> virtually any board easily available today is going to make use of DDR2 > memory What about DDR3 memory, is that preferable? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: GUI Digital Camera Application
> - f-spot Watch out there you're packing in 21MB of gnome dependencies and esound that wipes out alsa, you know what I say to that. Just a card reader file manager and gimp for those creative moments. >Ron Johnson said: jhead exif exiv2 metacam Thanks for these suggestions. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: GUI Digital Camera Application
John W Foster wrote: > 20,000 > family photos 20,000 family photos? -- C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
megaHAL
Does anyone here use this conversation simulator and if so are the conversations interesting? I'm tired of talking to humans, listening to their drivil. Can this package simulate a human conversation, is megaHAL like Julie the AmTrak automated assistant? What is the Markov Model? Can megaHAL synthesize speech or is it like a chat room? What is a 'scripting pleasure module' for perl Python or Tcl? -- Thanks, CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: megaHAL
> why just not installing it and giving it a try - it's very simple. > I've tried it. It's a chat/conversation engine. OK >I've written a thesis about dialogue systems, Is this online somewhere? >but megaHAL is not what someone would expect. You mean megahal is sort of incomplete not developed completely? > As far as I remember it has a different logic then ALICE but the > output As is similar. What is ALICE? > Do you know that Wikipedia exists? It's explained there and you can find a > lot of articles about it in Google. I use the Wikipedia, that great jewel of the Internet; Google, not so much just a quaint superstition about being syndicated. I like to hear expert opinion outside the Wiki, personal experience etc. > No and no. OK, it's a chat/conversation engine but not like a chat room so I'm unlikely to have a diverting keyboard banter with megaHAL? At first of course I would be more tolerant like that first date. >> What is a 'scripting pleasure module' for Perl Python or Tcl? > I don't know ... what do you mean? This was part of the package description when it came up. I thought it might be an inside joke. Scripting pleasure modules has a kind of decadent whiff about it. You better Google that, Emanoil. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: first post (a question)
>Tonight I took a look at Debian's explanation of networking and > liked the way it was presented. I also liked what I read about Debian's > approach in general. You've come to the right place. If you get the Debian Testing Installer iso: (50-60 MB) http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-businesscard.iso and burn it to a CD..a I noticed you no tengo el escribo de CD, but I bet your local library does. You'll figure it out Buz. When it comes to the installer asking you which Kernel you want to install choose the latest version that being 2.6 something. Don't worry about that K6 AMD the pentium 686 Linux-image is all you require. The installer will lay in the correct Kernel anyway. go loud Buz. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system
> I used to run IceWm...but recently I have become a convert to > Fluxbox. It's even lighter than Icewm...and I think more versatile but I might as well weigh in here in the spirit of Debian and just say that I've never used Ice but I have used Fluxbox for a time after using Blackbox and thought Fluxbox was a bit too fiddly so decided to try the UDE, that's your Unix Desktop Environment, and I found it to be just right. UDE is the bone of stability even in Sid and I like the uber simplicity and lightness of being. In fact it is curiously addictive once you know the controls. I would just venture to say it is the zen of desktop envirnoments. > the relatively sparse toolbar may put you (and him) off. With UDE there is only a black field with an X for a cursor. If that's alarming you have instead a choice of British racing green or purple haze, there being, nothing else. UDE likes a three button mouse or a mouse with a wheel that also works as a middle button. The one I use is a Logitech laser USB radio mouse. -- CK signature.asc Description: PGP signature
dependency based boot sequencing
I'm using apt 0.7.23.1. I did an apt-get dist-upgrade I received the following error messages: Setting up sysv-rc (2.87dsf-3) ... info: Checking if it is safe to convert to dependency based boot. error: Unable to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing. The error message invoked a screen with a verbose explanation but the essessence of it was the following packages removed were not purged. sysv-rc is prevented from being configured and dependency based boot sequencing is not possible. Here's the list of packages that should have been purged The following problems were detected: acpid removed by not purged alsa-utils removed by not purged at removed by not purged aumix-gtk removed by not purged avahi-daemon removed by not purged caudium removed by not purged console-tools removed by not purged cron removed by not purged debtorrent removed by not purged klogd removed by not purged mysql-server-5.0 removed by not purged nas removed by not purged nfs-common removed by not purged ntp removed by not purged nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx removed by not purged randomsound removed by not purged sane-utils removed by not purged sysklogd removed by not purged insserv: warning: script 'K20nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx' missing LSB tags and overrides, Some questions: is there a command in dpkg to purge these package related files 'after' the package has been removed? What are the missing LSB tags and overrides in the script Is there something I can use in: dpkg -- force? If sysv-rc can find all these errors that prevents itself from being configured why doesn't 'it' purge the offending files and get on with it? Thanks, -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: dependency based boot sequencing
> # aptitude purge ~c Thanks for that suggestion but I don't use aptitude..I use apt, dpkg, and smartpm. dpkg -P works but it would seem each package must be listed seperately. Is there a command that gets all the unpurged stuff in one go, like your suggestion above with apititude? Apropos to my subject thread, I had to rebuild my system from a recent image after sysv-rc was installed on a dist-upgrade. Sid was completely inaccessable via grub2. It was as if there was no hard drive on the computer. Grub has a lot of commands and options, busybox too but if there's no hard drive all the commands in the world can't help you. Guess that just shows to go ya. -- CK signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Xterm question
I have a lot of commands saved in Xterm. I know: #history -c to clear this, however it would be really good if these commands could be listed and selectively deleted. If such a thing can be done it would be good, and huge. With Debian I've come to realize that someone out there may already know how to do this. Just hoping whoever that is might share his knowledge. Thanks, -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Xterm question
> Have you tried already? I have now..thanks Ben thanks Tiago -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: nvidia problems after upgrade
> It is? How do you do that? Make sure you have installed: nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev nvidia-kernel-source compile the source with the following command: #m-a -t clean,a-i nvidia-kernel-source enjoy the show then: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade see what happens. -- CK "How we as conservatives respond to these challenges could determine whether America retains her place in the world as a beacon of freedom, or whether we slip into the abyss that has swallowed much of Europe in an avalanche of socialsim."
Re: nvidia problems after upgrade
> the correct instructions (but I haven't tried yet). And I suppose > that these are official instructions (as being on debian.org). Try these instructions: http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Firewall solution.
> > I am searching for something like pfsense[1] for Linux to install in > > a production server. In other words, a highly manageable firewall arno-iptables-firewall Unlike other lean iptables frontends in Debian, arno-iptables-firewall will setup and load a secure, restrictive firewall by just asking a few question. This includes configuring internal networks for internet access via NAT and potential network services (e.g. http or ssh). However, it is in no way restricted to this simple setup. Some catch words of additional features, that can be enabled in the well documented configuration file are: DSL/ADSL, Port forwarding, DMZ's, portscan detection, MAC address filtering. no web interface -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
linux-gate Archives
Are there other archives to this group for 2009? The link: http://lists.bofh.it/pipermail/linux-gate/ at: http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate only shows [to me at least] 2003, not what I wanted. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: nvidia problems after upgrade
> first, otherwise you may have todo: > #m-a -t clean,a-i nvidia-kernel-source > again! ;) I don't know about now but recently if you didn't do apt-get update and dist-upgrade after the compile you wouldn't get the glx updated drivers, maybe that step has been eliminated. Debian uncertain, my favorite version, is always a moving feast. -- CK -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: nvidia xserver makes fonts big and icky
> Any ideas how to fix? hummm...you might as well try: #dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?
> and there are a lot of a--holes on the list... It should be pointed out that an a-hole is quite different from being anal. Anal people you can live with, a-holes on the other hand, never. -- CK -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: apt-get autoremove
> there are morons no > matter what OS they use. > Alexey There are no morons on this list in my view, but as it has been pointed out, there are a-holes. Stop spreading tedium with references to morons and RTFM when someone ask the bleeding obvious or makes a mistake that could have been avoided with only a week of research; and, do the world a favor: don't get married and raise any children. >Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. said: >You should have run (apt-get install $pkgs_I_use) before running (apt-get >autoremove). Thanks for this useful tip, I've added it to my long and growing list of commands and how to use them. -- CK -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: segmentation fault with NVIDIA 32bit part
> today I updated my testing installation. Now the 32bit part of the > NVIDIA drivers doesn't work anymore I don't have 64bit strong hardware but it sounds like the problem I have after a Linux Kernel is upgraded. For Squeeze/Sid I'm showing: 2.6.30-2 (686) After the upgrade I can expect the 'nvidia' driver to fail. I edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file replacing 'nvidia' with xorg's 'nv' driver. This will return the 'desktop' minus 3D capabilities. As of 10-12 22:52 UTC, the nvidia-kernel-source is at 185.18.36.-2 When the n-v-source is upgraded, compile it with: # m-a -t clean,a-i nvidia-kernel-source Run another apt-get update for the new glx versions and other apt-get dist-upgrade to install them. Change the 'xorg.conf file back to 'nvidia' and all is well once more. Whether any of the above applies to your situation, I cannot say. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Problem with installation - nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 130M - squeeze
> I can't install driver for my graphical card - nVidia Quadro 130M on > Debian Squeeze i386 Try Lennart Sorensen's guide: http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html It will set things right. -- CK -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
-i386 to amd64
I've made a new computer my first ever and I'm very pleased with it. It uses an AMD phenon II 505 build cpu on an Ausus board with 8GB ram. I used an amd64 net-installer to create the partitions and swap file on the new and larger hard drive of the new machine. Before moving an image of the old [i686] partition to the new computer I installed the amd64 kernel. I completed the install by using gparted from a rescue disk to merge the larger new partition with the old smaller one from the image. The previously installed amd64 kernel now listed on the grub2 menu was selected to boot the new computer, and up it came, without a glitch so basically I'm happy. However, it has transpired that it wasn't that simple to change from the i686 kernel to amd64 even though my 32 packages will work under the amd64 kernel Apt and Dpkg for instance don't seem to know this has happened. I would hope someone knows a command line solution. Is there a way to safely morph the old architecture into the new, like purging the i686 kernel for instance or configuring APT or dpkg to upgrade with amd64 versions. Thanks for reading. -- C -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100227174446.73249...@mondo
Re: -i386 to amd64
> You were already told that a reinstall is most definitely the easiest, > fastest and safest procedure. But if you want to try it: > > http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/debian_arch_up/ Thanks for all the suggestions. I had a go with the above site using the powerful command: #dpkg --force-depends --force-architecture --force-overwrite -i to install the suggested libs: ia32-libs_1.19_amd64.deb lib32asound2_1.0.14a-1_amd64.deb lib32gcc1_4.2-20070609-1_amd64.deb lib32ncurses5_5.6-3_amd64.deb lib32stdc++6_4.2-20070609-1_amd64.deb lib32z1_1.2.3-15_amd64.deb libc6-i386_2.5-9_amd64.deb lsb-release_3.1-23.1_all.deb but this seriously wipes out most applications. I think in fact that site and those libs are out of date and the site should be taken down or updated, use it to your peril. -- C -- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: megalomanic aptitude
> Dear fellow Debian users, > My system is in a state which apt-get finds acceptable: > But aptitude goes bonkers Although I don't use apititude APT a few weeks ago did something similar after an update and dist-upgrade. It was as if some diabolical gnome team member decided to forcefully spread the gnome desktop to the unwary. I declined these suggested additional packages by selecting: #apt-get upgrade [instead of] apt-get dist-upgrade -- C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100301133530.687a4...@mondo
Re: -i386 to amd64
> Anyway, I think the huge **WARNING** notes should have been enough to let > you know the whole thing was not without risk ;) > > Regards, > > Angus > You're right Angus, and I did take precautions, that is why I was still able to post to the newsgroup, however I thought maybe an extra emphasis wouldn't hurt. I'm not confident that getting the upgrades for the listed libs is going to help. Do you think it would? -- C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100302133526.2f915...@mondo
Re: -i386 to amd64
> I think I'll just wait for: > > aptitude -a amd64 --arch_upgrade > > Surely that's right around the corner... Maybe for Squeeze? > > :) > > James Damn right, keep a watch on your /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg file for an upgrade. -- C. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100302134007.05f83...@mondo
IOMMU option in bios
I was looking over a dmesg output and I noticed a message that said I would save 64MB of RAM if I enabled the IOMMU option in the bios. I'm using an ASUS M4A79XTD EVO board with 8GB of RAM so maybe freeing up 64MB of RAM isn't that big of a deal; however, I had a look in the bios setup and saw nothing that pertained to IOMMU to enable. The BIOS is an 8MB Flash ROM, AMI BIOS PnP etc. Can anyone eleborate on this message in dmesg? -- C -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100316140606.29ccf...@mondo
IOMMU option in bios
I was looking over a dmesg output and I noticed a message that said I would save 64MB of RAM if I enabled the IOMMU option in the bios. I'm using an ASUS M4A79XTD EVO board with 8GB of RAM so maybe freeing up 64MB of RAM isn't that big of a deal; however, I had a look in the bios setup and saw nothing that pertained to IOMMU to enable. The BIOS is an 8MB Flash ROM, AMI BIOS PnP etc. Can anyone eleborate on this message in dmesg? -- C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100317200830.65e86...@mondo
Re: Conclusion: Looking for good dark background GTK themes
Try ude. That's all I use. It has a very black option, you will see nothing but black. xfce might let you use it as a wm..then maybe not. It's awfully simple, fast, and clean. Forget about upgrades there aren't any. I think it has been abandoned, still and all that doesn't stop making it the best desktop environment for xorg, solid as a T34 tank. -- C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100331151342.5c35b...@mondo
Re: No updates seen in a while
>how long this nightmare might go on. Debian-announce may >be a fine additional list, but why shall I subscribe The last entry I have from l.debian.announce is: "Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 updated" that was on January 30, 2010 the nightmare continues. -- C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100402120332.1608d...@mondo
Re: gforce 9400
anyone having problems with their Nvidia card and drivers should first consult Lennart Sorensen's HOWTO: http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html also it is essential to have the xorg's 'nv' "driver" handy if you get kicked back to the console on startx after an Nvidia upgrade. i.e. edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf -remove 'nivida' and replace with 'nv' very handy when the compile fails. and it will. -- C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100413175309.019b3...@mondo
Re: Icedove always loads Epiphany when URL is clicked
On my system, sid, this command wouldn't work: >$ update-alternatives --display x-www-browser this command will: $ update-alternatives --config x-www-browser why is that? -- C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100415130630.23ae9...@mondo
Re: Icedove always loads Epiphany when URL is clicked
OK..solved my own question: should have been: $ update-alternatives --display x-www-browser instead of: $ update-alternatives -display x-www-browser for the want of a dash an error message is returned. -- C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100415131305.28e94...@mondo
Re: Thank you - was [Re: Choosing among "Desktop Enviroments" and/or "Windows Managers"]
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:20:02 +0200 Richard Owlett wrote: > What's the best? I still don't know. Mr. Owlett, I would just like to add to the usual suggestions since you're interested in tinkering with Debian, a worthy hobby to be sure, that no one has suggested the now forgotten UDE with the insightful motto: "get used to it." http://udeproject.sourceforge.net/download.html UDE may be mostly unknown but the latest stable version was updated on 5-4-2013. so there's life there yet. You can tinker with some compiling of the source code if you like. The project does not use any special GUI-Libraries such as Qt or GTK+ and is based on the standard Xlibs this makes UDE faster. I used UDE for a long time at lease while it was in the usual repositories; but, to really feel the UDE experience, your system needs to be very uncluttered as it were, and I've given this up for the comfortable but more complex world of XFCE4. My reasons notwithstanding, I would just say that UDE was like Galadriel's mirror, that wonderful glassy black surface reflecting back a pensive face (your face) peering into the void. It was wonderfully existential at the time. -- CK signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Broken threads and missing quotations
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:00:02 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Insanity is a new fashion in Linuxland. In regard to some of your recent comments Ralf I was a bit concerned about you. Maybe the NSA hasn't made you nuts at all but instead repressed feelings about the environment. I understand completely. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ba94uifc78...@mid.individual.net
Re: Building computer
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:10:01 +0200 Catherine Gramze wrote: > there was no option in the BIOS to boot to the hard drive, or even to the EFI partition It surprises me to think you cannot select in your own BIOS the choice of booting from a CD. What kind of BIOS is that? With the latest testing version of the Debian installer, I would think you had the upper hand with the NTSF file system present. Just reformat the whole HD to Ext4 and load up a basic system and grub2. If that doesn't work then you better get a different BIOS or motherboard. Buying a store-bought computer means you've already paid for some OEM windows 8..this was a mistake, sorry dude. Maybe Stan Hoeppner will wade in with a recommendation. If he does you will have come to right place. best wishes nonetheless. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/baf2i8fitk...@mid.individual.net
Re: package help
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:10:01 +0200 paulmars wrote: > Im emailed a bug report. I got no response. I been trying to convince > myself to try again, but I have doubts. I dont want to loose my XP > install again. I need dual boot and i also need a recovery option if > Debian fails again, like last time. Last time grub got messed up and I > needed to reinstall xp. That is not fun. > > i really want to leave ms, but i have online business so i need it > daily, until i find another option. Debian might be that option, but i > need to test drive it. You didn't say what the bug report was about. There's a lot of bugs of course but I cannot believe you would have a problem with the latest Debian installer: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ Download an .iso of the 'netinst' (net install) and burn a CD. This will boot assuming you have the CD option set to boot before the HD in your computer's BIOS. You can leave everything to the installer. After the Debian install, you will have a duel boot system. The installer mess with the NTFS partition. (caveat) you must have enough 'free space' on your HD for the installer to do this for you. If XP has taken up the whole HD with the C drive, I would suggest first boot up with a live CD that contains the very useful program GParted. From that vantage point you can see and reduce the size of the displayed NTFS file system and be able to reduce this to its minimal requirements. After that operation boot the Debian installer, install a 'basic' Debian system, select the Grub2 boot manager and on the reboot you will see windows XP as on option for the duel boot you require. This menu is first thing you will see after the computer posts. You must have an oldish computer, so you will probably want the i386 .iso image. I hope you have a suitable CPU and modern amounts of memory. Debian won't bog you down like MS but it is a modern lively system so faster is better. As far as recovery goes, I use a non-free imaging program that runs off a CD. terabyteunlimited.com/index.htm The CUI version of of their image for Linux will easily make an recoverable image of both the NTSF and Linux file systems respectively. You don't want to waste your money on their GUI versions of image for windows and the like. The IFL CUI version does it all, and runs off the ifl.iso image on the CD. It's money well spent. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bagengfr9e...@mid.individual.net
Re: building computer
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 21:50:01 +0200 Catherine Gramze wrote: > I have received a response from MSI again. I do like the swiftness of their > email responses, even if the responses are a bit cryptic. > > Me: Please advise me as to whether this motherboard: http://us.msi.com/product/mb/H87-G43.html#/?div=Overview > 1. allows Secure Boot to be disabled and > 2. whether it allows CSM mode to be enabled and > 3. whether it is "Connected-standby" compliant. > > MSI tech: Default is disabled but can be enabled, default is CSM mode (UEFI + Legacy) but can be switched to pure UEFI mode. Connected-standby is required by Windows 8. The board has Windows 8 configuration that will do all of the above if you are going to do Win8 deployment. > > Am I nuts, or does this answer seem to be the complete opposite of the previous answer? According to this answer the board seems to be what I want. > > In a message yesterday, (to you not the list) Charles Kroeger mentioned that part of "Connected-standby" was an inability to enable CSM. This answer suggests the board can do either. > > "With the release of Windows 8 in October 2012, Microsoft's certification requirements now require that computers include firmware that implements the UEFI specification. Furthermore, if the computer supports the "Connected Standby" feature of Windows 8, then the firmware is not permitted to contain a Compatibility Support Module (CSM). As such, systems that support Connected Standby are incapable of booting Legacy BIOS operating systems" >Can Charles Kroeger give a source for his information? He can: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface sub heading: "Platforms using EFI/UEFI" 10th paragraph down -- CK signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Building computer
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:00:03 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > in > Germany in 2012 was around 0.26 €/kWh. (0.26 EUR = 0.351604 USD) In Western New York last bill was circa 0.21$/KWh In West Texas for September circa 0.14 $/KWh 1.00 EUR = 1.35229 USD Mid-market rates: 2013-10-01 00:12 UTC What's it cost elsewhere? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bauig4fp3i...@mid.individual.net
Re: Building computer
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 06:40:01 +0200 Doug wrote: > it's nothing > like the prices shown unloaded, above. .21 cents is nothing like .22 cents, who knew. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bb067hf76q...@mid.individual.net
Re: Building computer
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:40:01 +0200 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > "People convinced against their will are of the same opinion still." Stan, you know what Jesus said: "cast your pearls before swine and they will turn on you and tear you to pieces." There are opinions and facts. Many now think their opinions are facts. Too many I think. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bb077nf76q...@mid.individual.net
Re: 3D printer
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 07:10:01 +0100 Beco wrote: > Hi guys, > > This is an open thread, if that is allowed. > > I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have > experience in using such printers with debian/linux? > > What brand would you recommend? > > How about kits? > > What software is there available in debian repositories to create 3D > projects that can be directly printed? > > Thanks any input. > > My best, > Beco. Going to build a rifle Beco? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bdo1v2facl...@mid.individual.net
Re: Error code 1...........
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:30:02 +0200 Charlie wrote: > > > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > > When I encountered this error (which was mentioned on this list a few > > days ago) I purged the linjpeg-turbo-progs package (on which > > apparently nothing depended because it went without complaint) and > > then resumed my upgrade; the error went away. But maybe that's not the > > "right" way to do it. I get a code (1) on every dist-upgrade for some time now..maybe two weeks, can't remember but if I run: apt-get -f install apt-get goes on to setup the packages it downloaded. If the dist-upgrade message says it it going to remove a lot of packages I run instead: apt-get -u upgrade I continue this command until a dist-upgrade returns to sanity. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/carbhnf8q2...@mid.individual.net
Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:10:01 +0200 "David L. Craig" wrote: > Let's use our > keyboards to launch test cases in preference to soapbox > rhetoric that likely proves nothing. > > Let's let the code speak for itself for a while. I've not had many problems with systemd excepting my firewall, Shorewall, failed to start when booting up. It still started with: 'shorewall start' on the command line so that was alright with me. Systemd or something tried to put another firewall on my computer called Pyroman but it could not start at the boot, and always generated an error message to this effect. It is quite inferior to shorewall anyway, so I removed it. The developer or maintainer of Shorewall has now succeeded in returning Shorewall to the old configuration. After booting up the other day I ran 'shorewall start' and the message came back: shorewall was already running. Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself? -- CK System Information GTK+ 2.24.25 / GLib 2.42.0 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 3.10-1-amd64 (x86_64) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/card1rf8q2...@mid.individual.net
Re: Error code 1...........
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:10:01 +0200 Joel Rees wrote: > Probably a meaningless suggestion, but have you tried > > apt-get clean > > ? Yes once in a while, but I use: apt-get autoclean instead and that's before making a weekly image using terabyte image for Linux. (and windows if you like) it is non-free like Weihenstephaner hefe weissbier. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/casn9lfod6...@mid.individual.net
Re: Good news on claws-mail
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:40:02 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > opera might be closed source and unmaintained on > linux, it's still my favorite. It's very maintained on linux. I suggest you try Opera beta. It's the best browser I've used in a long time. Version:26.0.1656.8 - Opera is up to date Update stream: beta System: Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid (x86_64; XFCE) http://deb.opera.com -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cba35ef859...@mid.individual.net
Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
I have a line in my /etc/fstab file: #/dev/sde1/ /media/lumix-photos vfat users,rw,auto,iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 Anytime I want to add photos off the SD card in my camera, I comment out the hashmark add the SD card to the reader, and reboot the computer. The SD card is mounted (/dev/sde1/) inside the folder lumix-photos. I then use shotwell to add the new photos that can then be worked over in GIMP. This solution has worked flawlessly for years, until now: log: mount: special device /dev/sde1/ does not exist log: media-lumix\x2dphotos.mount has failed dependency has failed for local file system log: defined-by: systemd Since /dev/sde1 is listed and described from the fdisk -l command how can it 'not' exits? What is meant by media-lumix(back slash!)x2dphotos.mount(?) Adding the SD card into the card reader after editing /etc/fstab then rebooting, causes the computer to go into emergency (? WTF) mode. Ctrl+d doesn't fix it. Going to the command prompt with the root password is the only solution. (i.e. editing the /etc/fstab file back like it was, removing the SD card, and rebooting.) I think it's ludicrous that adding an SD card that even has its own line in /etc/fstab, throws the whole system into 'emergency' mode. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbi1kcf9sj...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 00:30:02 +0100 The Wanderer wrote: >I suspect that /dev/sde1 exists, but /dev/sde1/ (with the trailing slash) does >not - i.e., />dev/sde1 is a device node, not a directory. Yes, the extra forward slash was there (indicating a directory)..interesting. Anyway. I removed the now offending symbol. Thanks for this information. Martin Read wrote: >Use the well-documented fstab(5) option "nofail", which predates the creation of systemd. I replaced 'auto' in the fstab line with 'nofail.' Thanks for this reminder. I will test out the new configuration tomorrow. If you don't hear from me again it worked. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbjc24f9sj...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 20:10:01 +0100 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > I see from other messages in this thread that I'm not the only person to > think it equally ludicrous to have a workflow that involves rebooting > the entire machine just to mount and unmount a removable block device. > Indeed, even editing /etc/fstab doesn't need to be part of such a > workflow. Just mark the entry as non-automatic (also correcting your > spelling mistake that is the root of your problem here, of course) That was only to mount not unmount. For one thing I don't use this removable block device AKA the SD card enough to have it interfere with my precious workflow. As far as the 'incorrect' spelling of the device, that was only misspelled after systemd came into the picture. That line was read in /etc/fstab with no problems (for years) before it became misspelled. I've already corrected the offending spelling of the device and used the NON systemd methodology as recommended by The Wanderer and Martin Read, preempting your delicate sensibilities. So all is well. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cboknlf7e...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 11:50:01 +0100 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Why reboot, you can just use 'mount -a'? > > By the way, 'auto' and 'rw' are default, no need to set them explicitly. Thanks for this information -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbpm22fa65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:30:02 +0100 Peter Nieman wrote: > no one has mentioned autofs in this thread No, but I will put it in my list of options for /etc/fstab entry. I assume entries like 'autofs' and 'nofail' will soon be obsolete when 'systemd-fstab-generator' becomes de regueur, eh, Jonathan? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbq02nfa65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 21:00:02 +0100 Eric Sharkey wrote: > autofs isn't an option for /etc/fstab, it's a completely separate way > to specify mounts. For something like an sd card, you would add it to > something like /etc/auto.misc instead of /etc/fstab. autofs > filesystems are not mounted at boot time, but dynamically, when an > application tries to access the contents of the mount point. > > For example, I have this in /etc/autofs.misc: > > sdcard -fstype=vfat,gid=video,umask=002 > :/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic-_SD_MMC_2006041309210-0\:2-part1 > > and my sdcards are automatically mounted by attempting to read the > contents of /var/autofs/misc/sdcard/. > > Eric Thanks Eric, you can learn a lot of useful stuff on this list if you just keep poking it. Say something wrong get a clarification. That's good. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbqv0jfa65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Alsa-Base breaks Linux-Sound-Base
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:50:02 +0200 Camaleón wrote: > I experienced no issues with the dist-upgrade. In my troubles with that I'm sure they installed alsa-base with everything muted. Sound for me only returned after messing about with the alsamixergui keyboard controls of which some control this necessary thing. After that I could hear Anna Gourari playing Brahms on the spotify client. Naturally a sense of well being returned. I don't think anything was actually wrong with the first alsa-base replacing linux-sound-base other than a few muted channels. Anyway, I see they've upgraded alsa-base since then with no problems. with sid a little patience. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aa9ksmfc0...@mid.individual.net
Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:10:02 +0200 Camaleón wrote: >Well, you can "unmute" any of the detected input/outputs by this command >that can be run on system boot: > amixer set PCM 100 unmute >Not sure if this will help in your case, though... maybe using "alsactl" >to store the volume/unmuted options is preferable :-? Ah..thanks for this, I'll put it in my personal growing book of knowledge and special commands. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aa9lddfc0...@mid.individual.net
Re: 200% OT: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:50:02 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > "A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing Exactly Ralf..I'm always wearing a towel instead of my sarong that often goes missing. You see it's true, a man who knows where his towel is, is never exposed. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aaco3ifa3...@mid.individual.net
Re: how to uninstall gnome totally?
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:10:01 +0200 Camaleón wrote: > A better approach would be using the expert installer mode > and do not select the "desktop" task. This is just so. Load a "basic system" add the driver for your particular video card that will bring with it the xorg stuff then try the command: 'startx' I can't see why you wouldn't get a black screen with a terminal emulator to begin enjoying the privileges of simplicity. Try a clean window manager like 'blackbox' If you're like me and are still looking for the 'slit', add 'fluxbox' by way of some variety and advantage. For the Internet there's 'dillo' the super fast web browser that on a powerful AMD64 machine should be called the dillo-rocket. I always liked 'ude' that included 'uwm' the UNIX window manager. That black screen in the uwm was like Galadriel's mirror. Ude is still around but requires compiling and comes with a lot of promises for future development that do not appear forthcoming. Gnome is such a drag, it has always been a drag. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/abei3sfmos...@mid.individual.net
Nvidia upgrade 304.48.1 in sid
Has anyone else done this upgrade and found it breaks an X session? I had to install the xserver-xorg-video-vesa server to take the place of the nvidia driver. My nvidia stuff: ii glx-alternative-nvidia 0.2.2 amd64 ii libgl1-nvidia-alternatives 304.48-2 amd64 ii libgl1-nvidia-glx:amd64304.48-2 amd64 ii libglx-nvidia-alternatives 304.48-2 amd64 ii nvidia-alternative 304.48-2 amd64 ii nvidia-glx 304.48-2 amd64 ii nvidia-installer-cleanup 20120630+3 amd64 ii nvidia-kernel-common20120630+3 amd64 ii nvidia-kernel-dkms 304.48-2 amd64 ii nvidia-kernel-source 304.48-2 amd64 ii nvidia-libopencl1:amd64 304.48-2 amd64 ii nvidia-settings 304.48-1 amd64 ii nvidia-support 20120630+3 amd64 ii nvidia-vdpau-driver:amd64 304.48-2 amd64 ii xserver-xorg-video-nvidia 304.48-2 amd64 missing something? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/acoolgfgsp...@mid.individual.net
Re: Nvidia upgrade 304.48.1 in sid
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:30:01 +0200 Pascal Obry wrote: > A clean-up of an old driver? I would advise to uninstall everything, > exit X session and install back from a console. > > Pascal. Thanks for this suggestion, I did this, as you suggested, removed and purged everything nVidia then reinstalled. I did get two messages one about the incompatibility of nvidia with the nouveau module that can't be removed but all will be well with a reboot. The other message was about nvidia not being enabled in the xorg.conf file. This is not news I'll tell you. That damn xorg.conf file again. What is it with that file? I made an X11/xorg.conf file before, wrote in "nvidia" for the driver and this was sufficient until this last upgrade. Error message after the X-server failed: no module found so it's something else, since the "vesa" driver works when added instead of "nvidia" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf I'll continue to screw my nut in the mean time. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/acq2ohfpv5...@mid.individual.net
Re: Nvidia upgrade 304.48.1 in sid
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:00:01 +0200 Mark Allums wrote: > did you run > > $nvidia-xconfig I tried your suggestion and got this: ~$ nvidia-xconfig bash: nvidia-xconfig: command not found and this one: $ $nvidia-xconfig bash: -xconfig: command not found and this: # nvidia-xconfig bash: nvidia-xconfig: command not found what package is nvidia-xconfig in? Why would I need this, and what does it do? I don't think it creates a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. I've read similar letters with old dates like 2010 that suggested this solution but I believe it's redundant. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/acruiif9hh...@mid.individual.net
Re: Nvidia upgrade 304.48.1 in sid
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:20:02 +0200 Xelsior wrote: > Not sure why this is but maybe the error > messages I quote can help in some way. > > Barney Holmes Thank you Barney, where are the error messages you quote, in your message with the subject: "What is the procedure for patching the Debian kernel ?" I'm interested. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/acs29jfai0...@mid.individual.net
Re: Nvidia upgrade 304.48.1 in sid
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:20:02 +0200 Xelsior wrote: > Hi. See my message "What is the procedure for patching the Debian Ah disregard my previous quiry..I see your message now previously obscured. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/acs2mpfai0...@mid.individual.net
Re: Nvidia upgrade 304.48.1 in sid [SOLVED]
On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:30:02 +0200 Mark Allums wrote: > what you are looking for is in its own package, named, oddly > enough, nvidia-xconfig. Thanks for an interesting read, almost philosophical as it were, I see this package is available for sid however although it will create a fancy looking /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, more exotic than the one I wrought by hand, this is not what I needed. I became aware that a necessary package was missing: linux-headers-amd64 then an extra step of reinstalling the package: nvidia-kernel-dkms By that re-installation the dkms kernel will, in the presence of the correct linux-headers, provide the nvidia module, that necessary thing required to use 'nvidia' in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I would not have known this except for Lennart Sorensen who explained it to me. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/adsaemf313...@mid.individual.net
Creative /etc/X11/xorg.conf
For those of you running nouveau as your video driver with the gnome desktop you wont know about the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but for all us others there is considerable latitude for creativity in this file and its results on one's X11 desktop. Take for instance Mark Allums in a letter of the 1st Oct, 2012 where he says: >Anyway, what you are looking for is in its own package, named, oddly >enough, nvidia-xconfig. If you had created you own X11.conf file before, this package will create another one considerably fancier different and cryptic from yours. However after trying this package, and applying the file it created to my system, everything worked well until I tried to use any of my non-free software namely spotify and softmaker-office. At that point there would a seg-fault and not one of those simple ones where the program flashes in front of you before disappearing, this was instead the seg-fault from hell removing themselves from the screen and killing the x-server and destroying keyboard communication. There wasn't even a terminal after the X-session ended. The only solution was to punch out like the old windows days. I mention this because a seg-fault from any software I've used on Debian has never done this before. So..my question might be are the coders of nvidia-xconfig some kind of debian talaban who have created this to react to non-free software or was that just a coincidence? Since nvidia itself it non-free software that seems unlikely. Here's the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file created by the package: nvidia-xconfig: # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 304.48 (pbuilder@cake) Wed Sep 12 10:54:51 UTC 2012 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Files" FontPath"unix/:7100" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Samsung" ModelName "SyncMaster215TW" HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultDepth24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Can anyone see anything in this file that would blow up your computer? By restoring my old /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to the fore, all was harmonious again. I did not post my own /etc/X11/xorg.conf file because of its humble appearance compared to this one created by nvidia-xconfig. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ae3071fivt...@mid.individual.net
Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:50:02 +0200 Richard Owlett wrote: > Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed > internet connection. Back in the day I used to download a version of Debian over a 56K modem (that rarely achieved those speeds) I used to set it to downloading around midnight and get up the next morning and it was usually finished or almost and if it had stopped in the night I just restarted at that point, but it did get done and the ISP didn't complain. Of course I don't know what kind of data transfer restrictions you may be subject to if any but patience is still free. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ae30ugfjqm...@mid.individual.net
Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 03:50:02 +0200 "Stephen J. Mazurek" wrote: > I have a high speed connection but I will be starting from a CD. > Do you have any suggestions? I would suggest you make your own CD's DVD's if you want a CD install. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ This site is for the new 7.0 Beta2 Installer, it's very slick. This will install the testing version of Debian, code name: wheezy This is what I would do since you ask. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ae5gojf6k0...@mid.individual.net
Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 03:50:02 +0200 "Stephen J. Mazurek" wrote: > I expect to return to Linux very soon (not Debian, but Aptosid, since it's > more up to date.) Kubuntu Ubuntu it's all Debian to me. Debian Invictus as it were. If you want up-to-date do the beta2 7.0 install and set up your /etc/apt/apt.conf like so: APT::Default-Release "unstable"; Build-Essential "build-essential"; Ignore-Hold "false"; Clean-Installed "true"; Immediate-Configure "true"; // DO NOT turn this off, see the man page Force-LoopBreak "false"; // DO NOT turn this on, see the man page Cache-Start "20971520"; Cache-Grow "1048576"; Cache-Limit "0"; Default-Release ""; Install-Recommends "true"; Install-Suggests "false"; and your /etc/apt/preferences to: Package: debian-reference-en Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: debian-reference-common Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: (if you wanted to pin a particular package for special attention) Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: (the same package to walk on the wild side) Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 900 This is where up-to-date is at. One last thing if you're feeling really adventurous albeit suicidal change all the 'unstable' places to 'experimental' and if your system still works you'll be beyond up-to-date. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ae5iahf6k0...@mid.individual.net
Re: Advice on system purchase
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:50:02 +0100 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > If enough people buy AMD then Intel has a strong competitor. This keeps > the marketplace healthy and keeps Chipzilla from becoming a total > monopoly WRT x86. Thanks for your ecologically sound hardware suggestions you generously share with this group. I feel you have no peer in this matter. Your information saves hours of of comparative research and not always correct interpretive comprehension of the research. I always paste these suggestions you make (with a date) on a special page in my Zim Desktop Wiki. Good stuff -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/afbl55f4do...@mid.individual.net
Re: Advice on system purchase
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:30:02 +0100 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Now if they'd just smarten up I've pondered this sort of thing my whole adult life. I don't understand everything you're saying here but it sounds pretty straight forward for someone who does, like the 50 miles-to-the-gallon carburettor only that was just a myth, your description sounds actually plausible. I guess adding cores without adding anything else would be a way to get higher prices for the new and better, makes sense to me, that's pure Harvard Business School. We've come to the truth of it. I have opinions too. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/afjffsft55...@mid.individual.net
Re: compiling a Debian package
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 05:20:01 +0100 lee wrote: > apt-get build-dep dvbcut > apt-get source dvbcut > cd dvbcut > debuild -us -uc > > > ... fails with a number of errors: I hastily went through all the post with this subject and didn't notice anyone suggesting: apt-get install checkinstall apt-get install auto-apt I noticed that auto-apt has been around a while and was an orphan too, yet I see it is still in the docs and the cache and is de rigueur' for checkinstall. These two packages are supposed to make building from source a simple pleasure. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/afq9trfdre...@mid.individual.net
restart problems monitor or GPU
This is a recent development. I run Debian unstable by apt preferences I have a: Samsung SyncMaster 215tw Nvidia GeForceT 9800 GT Graphics Accelerator (silent cell) Recently on a systems restart be it Debian or Windows 7 the monitor blacks out i.e. doesn't pick up and display the signal. If I check the monitor source and menu the test always say the connection is OK and the source says PC meaning the monitor is communicating with the GPU. The only way I've found to work around this is on a restart do a CTRL-ALT-Del then wait for the restart again where at that point, I shut off the power. On turning on the power, the monitor will work again properly provided I don't turn-on the monitor too soon. If for instance, the monitor comes on with the power and fails to find a signal in around 5 seconds, it won't pick up the signal from the GPU when the computer is turned on later. In other words there is this 'dance' of turning on the computer waiting for the boot sequence to start up then turning on the monitor. That always seems to work after a power down, power up. I've not experienced this one before. it's really an annoying little thorn. Any suggestions leading to an amelioration of this problem would be resounding. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ag52v3fr5a...@mid.individual.net
Re: restart problems monitor or GPU
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 03:00:01 +0100 Chris Bannister wrote: > if someone has been "fiddling" with it. I'm the one who's fiddling with it and if you want to suggest something be specific like what BIOS setting did you have in mind? The bleeding obvious is not helpful. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ag696rf5eo...@mid.individual.net
Re: restart problems monitor or GPU
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 03:00:01 +0100 Chris Bannister wrote: > or even a BIOS setting OK Chris, I have to eat humble pie here, it was a BIOS setting. Something about a setting in the plug-and-play versus the BIOS..this setting got changed to letting the BIOS decide what's what. I had to set it back to enabling plug-and-play..heretofore considered the realm of windows it has consequences with Debian too at least on my particular BIOS..something American, came with the motherboard. Anyway, butt was saved with the latest version of Rescatux that included Super Grub 2. I can recommend this disk in anyone's tool box. all the best, CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aga2pafsb...@mid.individual.net
Re: restart problems monitor or GPU
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:10:01 +0100 Anthony Campbell wrote: > if you have a video card in a > slot rather than integral in the MB, take it out and put it back. Thanks for this suggestion, it can't hurt. If it works I'll let you know. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aga2sjfsb...@mid.individual.net
Re: partitions - primary vs logical and bootability
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:40:01 +0100 Charles Blair wrote: > The installer shows me 3 primary ntfs partitions, > presumably for windows7. What installer is that? Well, I'm assuming this is the Debian Installer 7.0 Beta2 you're using. First off it sounds like you have no 'free space' on this HD. You need that to achieve a duel boot environment. Forget about doing this with the win7 installer. Use instead Gparted on a 'rescue' disk like 'Rescatux' or other 'live' CD's that have Gparted installed, and make yourself some space with a nice EXT4 filesystem. Gparted is a great program. Why are there 3 primary NTFS partitions..questions questions...I mean there can be but why? Most of the windows installs I've seen just have the 'C' drive. and the usual D E etc 'drives' for CD's and the like, but they're not primary drives. Anyway, after you've wrested some free space away from the NTFS covered HD with Gparted, boot up with the aforementioned installer that will install the 'wheezy' version then install the Grub2 boot manager that will susout the other OSes on the disk and with the reboot you should get a menu and see all the bootable possibilities at that point, including a line for the windows7 installer. I noticed the mention of LILO in some of these related posts and I would just advise you to consider LILO to be out of it and stick with Grub2. Welcome to Debian, that's Debian Invictus to you, it certainly is to me. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/age50nft21...@mid.individual.net
The following packages will be REMOVED:
acroread acroread-debian-files acroread-escript acroread-plugins ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk ia32-libs-xulrunner lib32v4l-0 mozilla-acroread nspluginwrapper softmaker-office-2012 Now why would a 'dist-upgrade' want to do such a thing? Then there's this: 'apt-get -u upgrade' The following packages have been kept back: ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk libv4l-0 libv4lconvert0 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. So since I don't have 'aptitude or aptitude-common' installed, why is apt-get trying to remove all my non-free programs? Does it need to remove the non-free stuff before it can upgrade ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk? (for weeks on any 'dist-upgrade' these two ia32 packages have been 'kept back' without apt-get wanting to remove the non-free software, until now. Can anyone interpret what's going on? Debian has always got along pretty well with the non-free world, and it should because it's not going away, and the free software movement cannot be all things to all users. -- CK System Information GTK+ 2.24.10 / GLib 2.32.4 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (x86_64) Debian unstable -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/agfn79f8l9...@mid.individual.net
Re: The following packages will be REMOVED:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:30:01 +0100 Steven Post wrote: > the non-free 3rd party packages have not been updated to work with the > multiarch > way of doing things. So...now we wait, is that about it? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/agik72ftpj...@mid.individual.net
Re: sid is not for newbies. (was ... Re: The following packages will be REMOVED:)
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:30:02 +0100 Chris Bannister wrote: > Please don't run Sid, if you don't understand the risk( I like risk, why else would I run it, how could I understand it if I didn't? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aglh0lfja6...@mid.individual.net
Re: Can Debian's paranoia be tamed
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:20:03 +0100 Stefan Monnier wrote: > Decency seems to be a dying breed, sadly ;-) lunacy is very much alive however. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ahdn8nf2gd...@mid.individual.net
Re: Kobo or Kindle
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:50:02 +0100 Beco wrote: > Dear fellows, > > Regarding the usage experience of those ereaders on the caput, what > you find more compatible do Debian? Pocketbook runs on Linux, a Debian flavored one, compatible with many e-reader formats and works with Calibre through a USB interface. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ahmr11f4kl...@mid.individual.net
Re: Preseeding and partman-auto-recipe.txt
On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 17:00:03 +0100 Richard Owlett wrote: > multiple Linuxes present. Is there a way to > tell the installer to use an existing SWAP partition? I have such a system, and 'any' swap partition cut out of any other (Linux) partition on your computer will be used by whatever version of Linux may be running at the time, if the or these swap partitions appear in /proc/swaps . /dev/sdb5 partition 174079960 -1 /dev/sda2 partition 12701692 0 -2 Of the four versions of Debian on my computer they all use these two swap partitions as one. It can be argued that I have too much swap space and that would be true but, there is so much space available these days the change isn't urgent. It is my view that one doesn't need to make but one swap partition for all the other versions of Linux on your computer. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ahus8pfte3...@mid.individual.net
Re: upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy
On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:00:02 +0100 Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > Is there a way to fix this dependency problem? I found nothing > useful (at least for me) via Google, or debian forums. Try this: #dpkg --configure -a -- CK p.s. this is an old one: #apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes dist-upgrade -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ahvp7hf521...@mid.individual.net
Re: upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:20:01 +0100 Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > When I run > # apt-get install > I get "1763 ackages not upgraded" hummm...I don't know but I care nothing for these code words squeeze wheezy sid etc. I prefer good 'ol stable testing unstable experimental. >today, I tried to upgrade from squeeze to wheezzy: >- in source.list, I only left: > deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free Try these in your 'sources.list as well: deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib non-free deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free deb-src http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free deb-src http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free #apt-get update #apt-get dist-upgrade If you get a complaining message it may suggest you try: -f install If you don't get a complaining message you might just as well try one of these anyway: #dpkg --configure --pending What this does is try to configure the packages that were already unpacked, failing that try: #apt-get install -f #apt-get upgrade -f #apt-get dist-upgrade -f >Bob Proulx said: In addition to the sources.list and sources.list.d also ensure >that any /etc/apt/preferences file has been removed. I would instead suggest to make or put into your /etc/apt/preferences file: Package: debian-reference-fr (en?) Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 Package: debian-reference-common Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 500 those lines at least. and in your /etc/apt/apt.conf file: APT::Default-Release "unstable"; Build-Essential "build-essential"; Ignore-Hold "false"; Clean-Installed "true"; Immediate-Configure "true"; // DO NOT turn this off, see the man page Force-LoopBreak "false"; // DO NOT turn this on, see the man page Cache-Start "20971520"; Cache-Grow "1048576"; Cache-Limit "0"; Default-Release ""; Install-Recommends "true"; Install-Suggests "false"; there's other stuff you can put in there but that's a good start. Also I would install the following 'meta' packages: linux-headers(your architecture) on my computer that would be: linux-headers-amd64 linux-image-(your architecture) on my computer that would be: linux-image-amd64 that will keep you updated nicely. xserver-xorg-core (not a meta as such but brings everything with it you might need. I know those sources are further away than France but the fix is in, deus ex machina. Fare thee well. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ai2e0mfnr0...@mid.individual.net
Re: upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:10:02 +0100 Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > As I already said, I'll spend less time installing Wheezy from the iso image This just in: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ your troubles are over. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ai4pvrf9mu...@mid.individual.net
Re: upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:40:02 +0100 Jon Dowland wrote: > I can't see the relevance of any of these for the problem at hand. OK, suggest something of relevance for the problem specifically, like a better less 'default' set of values for the /etc/apt/apt.conf file, explaining why. I was suggesting the 'user Pierre' use unstable, I thought that was obvious. Wheezy is testing, I don't care for it. -- user Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ai9hdffcm9...@mid.individual.net
Re: clean up my system
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:00:02 +0200 Floris wrote: > I want to clean up my system You could always install: bleachbit That will clean you out -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c4o3gufpg6...@mid.individual.net
Re: Netflix in chrome-unstable on Debian Sid
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 02:30:01 +0200 John Holland wrote: > working in Debian Sid VM by jtotheh @slashdot > http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5512583&cid=47639701 netflix is going into Europe where Linux is widely used, especially in Germany. I believe they will have a .deb in the offing quite soon. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c4o3u4fpg6...@mid.individual.net
Re: Irony
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:00:02 +0200 Brian wrote: > honestly, does anyone care why any user chose > to change from Ubuntu or if their expectations were met? A skillful writer might weave a soap opera around the unsettling notions of systemd yet always there, an undercurrent of optimism inherent to a vague promise of a better kernel yet seemingly just out of reach as the chorus of writhing users struggle to believe with every episode compounding the dread of another unsettling rumor: the monolith, Microsoft, the systemctl reboot, methane hydrate, and you just won a trip on Malaysia Airlines to see Mt. Fujiyama. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c4q00nf5i0...@mid.individual.net
Re: Irony
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:50:01 +0200 Lisi Reisz wrote: > I had understood that Debian is in this, as in many things, different from > most Linux distros. Yes you're right, that's what makes Debian special, passion always trumps money. Look what happened to M$. I happen to know directly a certain person who works for a software company in Toronto and he writes patches for the Nvidia GLX driver pro bono publico. Of course there's money involved in Debian we're not stupid romantics but I'm just saying there's a lot of youthful desire to show off too, like artist, and Debian is a global platform for that, if you've got the ability. No corporation can long stand up to that kind of forward motion. Debian's where it's at. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c4sjvsfntb...@mid.individual.net
Re: Irony
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:50:02 +0200 Tom H wrote: > Debian isn't as special as you think, at least not from this perspective. Everybody earns money and needs money in this development. Organizations like Debian go forward by people with jobs volunteering time and expertise. I knew for instance in Amarillo, Brad Hughes, when he lived there. He was a kid that was working as an electrical contractor's apprentice. He came to one of the few LUG meetings we had in the late 1990,s and demonstrated Black Box. and helped us installed it on our big desktop computers. He wasn't paid to do that but I suspect it helped get him his job at Trolltech. (QT) The man in Toronto who I'm not going to mention because, I write him some with problems who was patient enough to help me with the Nvidia GLX driver back in 2008. when it didn't build its own module and run depmod like it does now. He has a good job, it isn't about money, time maybe. This is why it's important to keep Debian 'free.' This makes it attractive to talented people who still have their hearts in the right place. (You know what they say, If you're not a communist when you're young, there's something wrong with your heart. I think this statement came out of a system that used to educate its promising youth. Some systems are broken so it's hard to have a heart if you're ignorant and admire John Galt but never read his manifesto) This was the reason Debian was created. By maintaining a sensible level of free software without becoming hysterical over the non-free repositories. I'm sure Debian will continue to flourish like all these .orgs they get a lot of donations and legacies over time and if corruption and excessive ideology stays out of the group that steers and runs Debian development, the distribution will flourish which it continues to do, actually, or I wouldn't be using it -- CK signature.asc Description: PGP signature
