Re: since almost 4 years: missing icon for "save session" in plasma

2020-03-19 Thread Vincent Lammens
Hans wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> since almost 4 years I see the icon missing in the plasma menu "save
> session".
> This is fixed in kubuntu, but not in debian.
>
> I fixed this for myself in my systems, but I forgot how I did it
> during the
> long time.
>
> As far as I remember, I wrote a workaround for the list, but this I
> can not
> find any more. Maybe someone would like to fix this little issue.
>
> If I will find my report again, I will of course inform you.
>
> Best regards
>
> Hans
>

Hello Hans,

According to the wiki, there is a setting for this, setting your default
leave option to just turn off the computer might help you?

https://userbase.kde.org/File:Snapshot-kde-session-manager-config.png

Regards
Vincent



Acer Aspire 3 A315-21 laptop has mono sound only?

2020-03-19 Thread Ken Heard
I think that this particular laptop has mono sound.  I have been using 
it temporarily to stream content by HDMI to a LG HD monitor and then by 
fibre optical cable to a NED D3020 V2 hybrid amplifier and finally to a 
pair of bass reflect speakers.  Unfortunately sound comes out of only 
one speaker.


After extensive tests I have determined to my satisfaction that the 
problem is in the laptop.  I can test the two speakers built in the 
laptop separately, but I have no way of knowing whether the sound so 
produced is mono or stereo.  I could find no specs for this laptop with 
details about the sound card.


Lack of such specs indicates to me that Acer does not want people to 
know that this laptop is mono only. Is mono sound the norm for low 
market laptops such as this one and notebooks?


Ken Heard



Re: Acer Aspire 3 A315-21 laptop has mono sound only?

2020-03-19 Thread Andrea Borgia
Hi, Ken.

If confirmed, it would be the first laptop I know of that has mono sound.
It looks like it is stereo, though:
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/CA/content/model/NX.GNVAA.030

Are you sure it is not a defective connector? Or the first cable right out
of the laptop?


Il giorno gio 19 mar 2020 alle ore 11:44 Ken Heard  ha
scritto:

> I think that this particular laptop has mono sound.  I have been using
> it temporarily to stream content by HDMI to a LG HD monitor and then by
> fibre optical cable to a NED D3020 V2 hybrid amplifier and finally to a
> pair of bass reflect speakers.  Unfortunately sound comes out of only
> one speaker.
>
> After extensive tests I have determined to my satisfaction that the
> problem is in the laptop.  I can test the two speakers built in the
> laptop separately, but I have no way of knowing whether the sound so
> produced is mono or stereo.  I could find no specs for this laptop with
> details about the sound card.
>
> Lack of such specs indicates to me that Acer does not want people to
> know that this laptop is mono only. Is mono sound the norm for low
> market laptops such as this one and notebooks?
>
> Ken Heard
>
>


Re: since almost 4 years: missing icon for "save session" in plasma

2020-03-19 Thread Geoff

Vincent Lammens wrote:

Hello Hans,

According to the wiki, there is a setting for this, setting your default
leave option to just turn off the computer might help you?

https://userbase.kde.org/File:Snapshot-kde-session-manager-config.png

Regards
Vincent




Ah, looks like you have to have "Restore manually saved session" selected.

Regards,
Geoff



no upgrade of libkpmcore8 to libkpmcore9

2020-03-19 Thread Marco Möller
The dependency libkpmcore9 cannot be upgraded from libkpmcore8, 
therefore the package partitionmanager is hold back from upgrades. What 
exactly causes "apt upgrade" to not be able to upgrade to libkpmcore9 
from libkpmcore8? Below I will show what I figured out so far. Is there 
some more detail I could search for? Or is it a bug and if so, for which 
package (libkpmcore9 or apt or some other instance) should I report it?
My OS is Debian testing ("Bullseye"), kernel-release 5.4.0-4-amd64 and 
kernel-version being #1 SMP Debian 5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13), besides the 
below mentioned packages upgraded to the newest package versions.



I have done the following to clarify the situation, which shows that the 
hold back is caused by the dependency libkpmcore9:

apt upgrade partitionmanager -s
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 partitionmanager : Depends: libkpmcore9 (>= 4.1.0) but it is not going 
to be installed

E: Broken packages


Simulating a manual upgrade of libkpmcore9 shows that there would not be 
a solution to the situation:

apt upgrade libkpmcore9 -s
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libkpmcore9 : Breaks: libkpmcore8 but 4.0.1-2+b1 is to be installed
E: Broken packages


However, a manual installation of libkpmcore9 would solve the situation:
apt install --no-install-recommends libkpmcore9 -s
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  partitionmanager
Suggested packages:
  btrfs-progs hfsplus hfsutils jfsutils reiser4progs reiserfsprogs xfsprogs
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libkpmcore8
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libkpmcore9
The following packages will be upgraded:
  partitionmanager
1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Inst partitionmanager [4.0.0-2] (4.1.0-1 Debian:testing, Debian:unstable 
[amd64]) []

Remv libkpmcore8 [4.0.1-2+b1] []
Inst libkpmcore9 (4.1.0-2 Debian:testing, Debian:unstable [amd64])
Conf partitionmanager (4.1.0-1 Debian:testing, Debian:unstable [amd64])
Conf libkpmcore9 (4.1.0-2 Debian:testing, Debian:unstable [amd64])


The other hold back packages are these ones, they only appeared in 
status hold back some days after partitionmanager already was hold back 
as the only hold back package and I therefore conclude that these are 
not relevant to my above described problem:

  partitionmanager task-english task-laptop tasksel tasksel-data


Looking forward to receiving your kind help! Thanks a lot, Marco.



Re: no upgrade of libkpmcore8 to libkpmcore9

2020-03-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 02:03:17PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote:
> The dependency libkpmcore9 cannot be upgraded from libkpmcore8,

[...]

Indeed it can't. From apt's perspective they are different
packages -- each with its own version. "Upgrade" (see apt's
man page) *promises* *never* to remove a package. It would
have to remove libkpmcore8 to install libkpmcore9.

Try "apt full-upgrade": this one is allowed to remove packages.

Cheers
-- tomás


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Re: no upgrade of libkpmcore8 to libkpmcore9

2020-03-19 Thread Marco Möller

From apt's perspective they are different
packages -- each with its own version. "Upgrade" (see apt's
man page) *promises* *never* to remove a package. It would
have to remove libkpmcore8 to install libkpmcore9.


I understand.
I will try to contact the package maintainers and ask them if they 
couldn't provide a package named "libkpmcore" then and using normal 
version numbers for this package as usual for other packages.

Thanks a lot!
Marco



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Re: Acer Aspire 3 A315-21 laptop has mono sound only?

2020-03-19 Thread Joe
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 17:44:23 +0700
Ken Heard  wrote:

> I think that this particular laptop has mono sound.  I have been
> using it temporarily to stream content by HDMI to a LG HD monitor and
> then by fibre optical cable to a NED D3020 V2 hybrid amplifier and
> finally to a pair of bass reflect speakers.  Unfortunately sound
> comes out of only one speaker.
> 
> After extensive tests I have determined to my satisfaction that the 
> problem is in the laptop.  I can test the two speakers built in the 
> laptop separately, but I have no way of knowing whether the sound so 
> produced is mono or stereo.  I could find no specs for this laptop
> with details about the sound card.
> 
> Lack of such specs indicates to me that Acer does not want people to 
> know that this laptop is mono only. Is mono sound the norm for low 
> market laptops such as this one and notebooks?
> 
No. I have the cheapest laptop (HP), a previous cheapest laptop
(Acer), the cheapest netbook (Acer) and a previous cheapest netbook
(Acer) I could find when buying, and all do stereo sound just fine, in
fact these days the cheapest of sound chips will do more channels than
Fantasia... you can buy a USB dongle with pretty decent sound out
for a couple of Pounds/Dollars.

Buy/borrow the cheapest earphones you can find, if you don't already
have such. Plug into the laptop and select the headphone jack as output.

Locate a modern pop music track. Play in VLC. Under Audio->Stereo Mode,
switch between mono and stereo. If you can't hear any difference, if
the sound is located in the centre of your head in both modes, you only
have mono. Or if the Stereo option is greyed out 

There are quite a few tracks with deliberate stereo effects, most stuff
by Pink Floyd, Zeppelin's Whole Lotta Love etc., and they make stereo
very obvious, even on laptop speakers. But pretty much any music will
have stereo differences which are obvious on headphones, but maybe not
on the poor excuses for loudspeakers in laptops.

If you're getting convincing stereo, then the problem is elsewhere in
the path. I always suspect HDMI of anything that involves it. Yes, it
can do many channels, and something with 'HDMI' stamped on it should do
at least stereo, but that may be the weak link in the chain. You should
have a headphone jack on any modern screen which handles audio, try
your cheap earphones in that, with sound via HDMI. Again, VLC provides a
quick mono/stereo switch, but many sound hardware drivers can also do
that.

-- 
Joe



Re: Acer Aspire 3 A315-21 laptop has mono sound only?

2020-03-19 Thread David
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 21:44, Ken Heard  wrote:
>
> I think that this particular laptop has mono sound.  I have been using
> it temporarily to stream content by HDMI to a LG HD monitor and then by
> fibre optical cable to a NED D3020 V2 hybrid amplifier and finally to a
> pair of bass reflect speakers.  Unfortunately sound comes out of only
> one speaker.
>
> After extensive tests I have determined to my satisfaction that the
> problem is in the laptop.  I can test the two speakers built in the
> laptop separately, but I have no way of knowing whether the sound so
> produced is mono or stereo.  I could find no specs for this laptop with
> details about the sound card.

Install the alsa-utils package on the laptop.
Get some headphones or ear buds and test them on another audio device.
Plug them into the laptop headphone output socket and run the command:
  speaker-test -c2
This laptop is specified to produce stereo sound, so you should hear
in the headphones several seconds of pink noise which alternates
between the left and right ears.
For more info on your audio hardware, try running the command:
  lspci | grep -i audio
or install the inxi package and run the command:
  inxi -A



Re: no upgrade of libkpmcore8 to libkpmcore9

2020-03-19 Thread Mark Allums




On 3/19/2020 8:03 AM, Marco Möller wrote:
The dependency libkpmcore9 cannot be upgraded from libkpmcore8, 
therefore the package partitionmanager is hold back from upgrades. 
What exactly causes "apt upgrade" to not be able to upgrade to 
libkpmcore9 from libkpmcore8? Below I will show what I figured out so 
far. Is there some more detail I could search for? Or is it a bug and 
if so, for which package (libkpmcore9 or apt or some other instance) 
should I report it?
My OS is Debian testing ("Bullseye"), kernel-release 5.4.0-4-amd64 and 
kernel-version being #1 SMP Debian 5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13), besides the 
below mentioned packages upgraded to the newest package versions.



I have done the following to clarify the situation, which shows that 
the hold back is caused by the dependency libkpmcore9:

    apt upgrade partitionmanager -s
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 partitionmanager : Depends: libkpmcore9 (>= 4.1.0) but it is not 
going to be installed

E: Broken packages


Chances are, there is more coming from the maintainers.  Simply waiting 
a week or so may clear this up.  The dependencies don't work because 
another package needs to be upgraded or installed that hasn't yet been 
uploaded to the mirrors.  This happens frequently in testing and Sid 
(and experimental).


Mark




Re: emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file

2020-03-19 Thread G.W. Haywood

Hi there,

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:


I'm trying to learn Emacs, using:
"Learning GNU Emacs".
Old, but it would still seem to be a reputable and authoritative source.


Well I used to use that book, but that was 25 years ago.  Try this instead:

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Abbrevs.html#Abbrevs

--

73,
Ged.



MATE saving of desktops, layouts, (testing,unstable)

2020-03-19 Thread songbird
  anyone else run MATE from testing/unstable?  guru?  :)

  once in a while the saved layouts i have get clobbered
and i don't know anything about where and how those are
stored so i can back them up or fix them easily when it
happens.  as i usually have all my desktops arranged 
around projects i am working on i wouldn't even mind
being able to have different versions of such, but that
would be a side effect of knowing the set up.  which i
admit i do not.

  i've tried to read some docs on-line about this and
not making too much headway either.  things do change...

  and for the record i do have the box checked in the
preferences to save the window locations.  i thought
that once i had a good setup that i would uncheck this
but when i tried that yesterday then there were none
saved at all when i started up again the next time.

  thanks for info, ideas.


  songbird



Re: no upgrade of libkpmcore8 to libkpmcore9

2020-03-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-03-19 09:50 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:

> On 3/19/2020 8:03 AM, Marco Möller wrote:
>> The dependency libkpmcore9 cannot be upgraded from libkpmcore8,
>> therefore the package partitionmanager is hold back from upgrades. 
>> What exactly causes "apt upgrade" to not be able to upgrade to
>> libkpmcore9 from libkpmcore8? Below I will show what I figured out
>> so far. Is there some more detail I could search for? Or is it a bug
>> and if so, for which package (libkpmcore9 or apt or some other
>> instance) should I report it?
>> My OS is Debian testing ("Bullseye"), kernel-release 5.4.0-4-amd64
>> and kernel-version being #1 SMP Debian 5.4.19-1 (2020-02-13),
>> besides the below mentioned packages upgraded to the newest package
>> versions.
>>
>>
>> I have done the following to clarify the situation, which shows that
>> the hold back is caused by the dependency libkpmcore9:
>>     apt upgrade partitionmanager -s
>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>  partitionmanager : Depends: libkpmcore9 (>= 4.1.0) but it is not
>> going to be installed
>> E: Broken packages
>
> Chances are, there is more coming from the maintainers.  Simply
> waiting a week or so may clear this up.  The dependencies don't work
> because another package needs to be upgraded or installed that hasn't
> yet been uploaded to the mirrors.  This happens frequently in testing
> and Sid (and experimental).

Small correction: it happens frequently in sid indeed, but it is _not_
supposed to happen frequently in testing.  In this case, it happens
because libkpmcore9 is not coinstallable with libkpmcore8.  I would
consider that a bug, but I don't know anything about the kpmcore
package.

Aptitude by default removes unused packages (automatically installed
packages with no reverse dependencies) with the "safe-upgrade" command,
which I find very useful.  I think apt should behave the same if you set
APT::Binary::AutomaticRemove to true in the configuration, but I have
not tested that.

Cheers,
   Sven



Re: Acer Aspire 3 A315-21 laptop has mono sound only?

2020-03-19 Thread Ken Heard

On 19/03/20 09:10 PM, Joe wrote:




If you're getting convincing stereo, then the problem is elsewhere in
the path. I always suspect HDMI of anything that involves it. Yes, it
can do many channels, and something with 'HDMI' stamped on it should do
at least stereo, but that may be the weak link in the chain. You should
have a headphone jack on any modern screen which handles audio, try
your cheap earphones in that, with sound via HDMI. Again, VLC provides a
quick mono/stereo switch, but many sound hardware drivers can also do
that.


I did what you suggested, and only one ear received any sound. The next 
step is to try another HDMI cable.  Thanks all for the suggestions.


Regards, Ken



Re: no upgrade of libkpmcore8 to libkpmcore9

2020-03-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 04:53:32PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:

[...]

> Small correction: it happens frequently in sid indeed, but it is _not_
> supposed to happen frequently in testing.  In this case, it happens
> because libkpmcore9 is not coinstallable with libkpmcore8.  I would
> consider that a bug, but I don't know anything about the kpmcore
> package.

Actually, one of the reasons of making a totally new package instead
of a new version "of the same" [1] /is/ for having co-installable
versions, as, for example, is done with kernel packages (you want to
have an older kernel around if the new one misbehaves badly).

Cheers

[1] whatever "the same" is

-- tomás


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Re: Acer Aspire 3 A315-21 laptop has mono sound only?

2020-03-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 19 mar 20, 17:44:23, Ken Heard wrote:
> I think that this particular laptop has mono sound.  I have been using it
> temporarily to stream content by HDMI to a LG HD monitor and then by fibre
> optical cable to a NED D3020 V2 hybrid amplifier and finally to a pair of
> bass reflect speakers.  Unfortunately sound comes out of only one speaker.

Those are quite a lot of connections... you might want to recheck 
everything is properly connected and both the monitor and the amplifier 
don't have one of the channels muted.

Please post also the output of 'amixer' (in package 'alsa-utils').

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: no upgrade of libkpmcore8 to libkpmcore9

2020-03-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 19 mar 20, 15:02:19, Marco Möller wrote:
> > From apt's perspective they are different
> > packages -- each with its own version. "Upgrade" (see apt's
> > man page) *promises* *never* to remove a package. It would
> > have to remove libkpmcore8 to install libkpmcore9.
> 
> I understand.
> I will try to contact the package maintainers and ask them if they couldn't
> provide a package named "libkpmcore" then and using normal version numbers
> for this package as usual for other packages.

Libraries are special and need a sort-of-version in the package name.

As already mentioned, the unusual thing (which causes your issue) is 
that the two are not co-installable. The maintainer may have good 
reasons for this.

Did you look at the changelog?

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Acer Aspire 3 A315-21 laptop has mono sound only?

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Ritter
Ken Heard wrote: 
> On 19/03/20 09:10 PM, Joe wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > If you're getting convincing stereo, then the problem is elsewhere in
> > the path. I always suspect HDMI of anything that involves it. Yes, it
> > can do many channels, and something with 'HDMI' stamped on it should do
> > at least stereo, but that may be the weak link in the chain. You should
> > have a headphone jack on any modern screen which handles audio, try
> > your cheap earphones in that, with sound via HDMI. Again, VLC provides a
> > quick mono/stereo switch, but many sound hardware drivers can also do
> > that.
> 
> I did what you suggested, and only one ear received any sound. The next step
> is to try another HDMI cable.  Thanks all for the suggestions.

"One ear" suggests that the laptop is not deliberately producing
mono sound -- if it were, you would get the same sound in both
hears.

-dsr-



Instalar cliente VPN en Debian 9

2020-03-19 Thread Javier Fidalgo
Buenas tardes,
Les escribo porque necesito instalar un cliente VPN en mi debian 9.
Estoy buscando alternativas a OpenVPN ya que, este me obliga a tener 
configurado un servidor en el destino.
Después de una exhausta búsqueda no he encontrado alternativas a OpenVPN, 
desconozco si hay más posibilidades.

Muchas gracias,

Javier.


Re: Instalar cliente VPN en Debian 9

2020-03-19 Thread john doe
On 3/19/2020 3:56 PM, Javier Fidalgo wrote:
> Buenas tardes,
> Les escribo porque necesito instalar un cliente VPN en mi debian 9.
> Estoy buscando alternativas a OpenVPN ya que, este me obliga a tener 
> configurado un servidor en el destino.
> Después de una exhausta búsqueda no he encontrado alternativas a OpenVPN, 
> desconozco si hay más posibilidades.
>


https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/

As an alternative to Openvpn, ipsec is one option, that is if my Spanish
understanding is correct.

--
John Doe



Re: Instalar cliente VPN en Debian 9

2020-03-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 02:56:56PM +, Javier Fidalgo wrote:
> Buenas tardes,
> Les escribo porque necesito instalar un cliente VPN en mi debian 9.

Buenas tardes

esta lista es en inglés. Si Vd. prefiere una lista en castellano,
está por aquí:

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/
  debian-user-span...@lists.debian.org

> Estoy buscando alternativas a OpenVPN ya que, este me obliga a tener 
> configurado un servidor en el destino.
> Después de una exhausta búsqueda no he encontrado alternativas a OpenVPN, 
> desconozco si hay más posibilidades.

No entiendo su requerimiento: todos los clientes de VPN necesitan
un servidor al otro lado, ¿no?

Saludos
-- tomás


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Re: Instalar cliente VPN en Debian 9

2020-03-19 Thread Paynalton
El jue., 19 mar. 2020 a las 10:48, Javier Fidalgo ()
escribió:

> Buenas tardes,
> Les escribo porque necesito instalar un cliente VPN en mi debian 9.
> Estoy buscando alternativas a OpenVPN ya que, este me obliga a tener
> configurado un servidor en el destino.
>

Te recomiendo que veas documentación acerca de lo que es VPN. Todo túnel
requiere almenos una entrada y una salida, de lo contrario no es un túnel,
sólo una cueva que no llega a ninguna parte.


> Después de una exhausta búsqueda no he encontrado alternativas a OpenVPN,
> desconozco si hay más posibilidades.
>
> Muchas gracias,
>
> Javier.
>


Re: failure to install debian

2020-03-19 Thread Leandro Noferini
On lun, mar 09, 2020 at 09:28:56 +, Steve McIntyre wrote:

> >Boost.Python error in job "bootloader".
> >
> >Command 'grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi
> >--bootloader-id=Debian --force' returned non-zero exit status 1.
> >
> >Installing for x86_64-efi platform. grub-install: warning: Cannot set EFI
> >variable Boot. grub-install: warning: efivarfs_set_variable: writing to
> >fd 7 failed: No space left on device. grub-install: warning:
> >_efi_set_variable_mode: ops->set_variable() failed: No space left on
> >device. grub-install: error: failed to register the EFI boot entry: No
> >space left on device.
> 
> OK. Your system has run out of space to store a boot variable. These
> are normally stored in NVRAM (flash) by the firmware. The most common
> cause I've seen for this is error logs stored in /sys/fs/pstore/
> taking up lots of space. Could you check and see if you have any files
> there please?

I have the same issue trying to install debian on a HP 255 G6 with a SSD
KingDian of 120 Gb: I have nothing in /sys/fs/pstore/

I installed debian before on the same pc but on a different disk.

As suggested on the #debian-efi channel I reported the bug against
debian-installer yesterday but I did not receive any response until today.

-- 
Ciao
leandro



Re: emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file does not seem to work.

2020-03-19 Thread davidson

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:


Hey, been working on this emacs problem all day.


It would have taken me all day just to write up such a meticulous
account.

TLDR; I have never used the "abbrevs" functionality of emacs. So, (fair
warning) you will not find a direct answer to your question in what I
say below.


I'm running Unstable, up to date.
Cinnamon DE.
64-bit.

dummy@dummy:~$ sudo aptitude show emacs
[sudo] password for default:


Just FYI, it would greatly surprise me if you actually needed root
privileges for aptitude's "show" command. I wager you could get the
same information with

  dummy@dummy:~$ aptitude show emacs

and save yourself a password entry.

(I am wagering, not promising, because I use apt-get exclusively,
never aptitude.)


Package: emacs
Version: 1:26.3+1-1

[snip]


I'm trying to learn Emacs, using:
"Learning GNU Emacs".
Old, but it would still seem to be a reputable and authoritative source.


I am sympathetic to reading older, slightly out-of-date sources of
documentation. I frequently do it myself. So I know that it can be
informative (sometimes in unexpected ways), and I know that at times
it has downsides as well, can add an extra layer of confusion, etc.

That said, if I were you, and if I had not done so already, I would
enable the non-free component in your sources.list, and then install
the (non-free) package "emacs-common-non-dfsg":

| emacs-common-non-dfsg - GNU Emacs common non-DFSG items, including the core 
documentation
|  This package includes the core Emacs documentation: the Emacs Info
|  pages, the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, and the Emacs Lisp Intro.
|  .
|  GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting text editor.  This
|  package contains the architecture independent infrastructure that
|  is not compliant with the Debian Free Software Guidelines.  In
|  particular, this includes some of the GNU Emacs info pages, as they
|  are covered under the GFDL, and specify invariant sections.  See
|  http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 for more information.

This should give you the info pages version of the Emacs manual, which
contains a section on Abbrevs (under Advanced Features, I think).

Then, in emacs, do

 M-x info

This brings up a menu of info documentation properly installed on your
system. You'll want to traverse "Emacs" > "Abbrevs".

What little else I have to say would merely be bikeshedding or
poorly-informed speculation, so I'll stop here. Maybe I'll go read
about Abbrevs.

I hope this helps a little, while you're waiting for an emacs wizard
to show up.

Good luck with your project.

--
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 When our silence will be   |  Hanged, by the U.S. state of Illinois,
 More powerful than |  alongside fellow journalists
 The voices you strangle today  |  Adolf Fischer and Albert Parsons.



Re: emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file does not seem to work.

2020-03-19 Thread davidson

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, davidson wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:

[snip]


dummy@dummy:~$ sudo aptitude show emacs
[sudo] password for default:


Just FYI, it would greatly surprise me if you actually needed root
privileges for aptitude's "show" command. I wager you could get the
same information with

 dummy@dummy:~$ aptitude show emacs

and save yourself a password entry.

(I am wagering, not promising, because I use apt-get exclusively,


*apt-get and apt-cache


never aptitude.)

[big snip]


Then, in emacs, do

M-x info

This brings up a menu of info documentation properly installed on your
system. You'll want to traverse "Emacs" > "Abbrevs".


I now see that GW Haywood has already pointed you to a version of the
same document, posted on the web:

  
https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/alpine.deb.2.21.2003191433310.9...@piplus.local.jubileegroup.co.uk

--
 The day will come  |  Last words, August Spies (1855--1887).
 When our silence will be   |  Hanged, by the U.S. state of Illinois,
 More powerful than |  alongside fellow journalists
 The voices you strangle today  |  Adolf Fischer and Albert Parsons.



Instalar Epson L3110

2020-03-19 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano

hola amigos. Al instalar la Epson L3110 con un dpkg nombredelinstalador.deb

me sale el siguiente error

 epson-inkjet-printer-escpr depende de lsb (>= 3.2); sin embargo:
  El paquete `lsb' no está instalado.

Me pasa en debian 10 xfce de dos computadoras

Gracias desde ya



Re: Zoom conferencing

2020-03-19 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala
Hello Nazar,
I have installed the flatpak with the latest version. I am running
Debian 10 and Gnome. When trying to share the screen a message comes up
saying that screen sharing is only available in Gnome on Wayland on
Debian 9+,, and screen sharing does not start. I am baffled by this.
Did you install this from the flatpak??
thank you,

Anil



On Tue, 2020-03-03 at 06:41 +0100, Nazar Zhuk wrote:
> On 2020-02-29 23:08, Joel Rees wrote:
> > (I hope no one gets upset about double posting debian and ubuntu
> > users
> > lists.)
> > 
> > Questions about zoom --www.zoom.us
> > 
> > Anyone using it?
> > 
> > Issues?
> > 
> > Known reasons they don't put it in the general repositories?
> > 
> 
> As others have pointed out, it's proprietary and will never be in
> Debian and there are superior open-source alternatives.
> 
> If the choice is not yours though, there is a flatpak for it: 
> https://flathub.org/apps/details/us.zoom.Zoom. It's kept isolated
> from your system and it works. I haven't used video, but no issues
> with audio and screen sharing.
> 



Re: emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file

2020-03-19 Thread Default User
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:54 AM G.W. Haywood <
debian-b...@jubileegroup.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to learn Emacs, using:
> > "Learning GNU Emacs".
> > Old, but it would still seem to be a reputable and authoritative source.
>
> Well I used to use that book, but that was 25 years ago.  Try this instead:
>
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Abbrevs.html#Abbrevs
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Ged.
>


G.W., thanks for the link you provided to the Emacs information at
GNU.org.  I'm sure it will be quite helpful over time.


[SOLVED] emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file does not seem to work.

2020-03-19 Thread Default User
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:57 PM davidson  wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, davidson wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >> dummy@dummy:~$ sudo aptitude show emacs
> >> [sudo] password for default:
> >
> > Just FYI, it would greatly surprise me if you actually needed root
> > privileges for aptitude's "show" command. I wager you could get the
> > same information with
> >
> >  dummy@dummy:~$ aptitude show emacs
> >
> > and save yourself a password entry.
> >
> > (I am wagering, not promising, because I use apt-get exclusively,
>
> *apt-get and apt-cache
>
> > never aptitude.)
> [big snip]
>
> > Then, in emacs, do
> >
> > M-x info
> >
> > This brings up a menu of info documentation properly installed on your
> > system. You'll want to traverse "Emacs" > "Abbrevs".
>
> I now see that GW Haywood has already pointed you to a version of the
> same document, posted on the web:
>
>
> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/alpine.deb.2.21.2003191433310.9...@piplus.local.jubileegroup.co.uk
>
> --
>   The day will come  |  Last words, August Spies (1855--1887).
>   When our silence will be   |  Hanged, by the U.S. state of Illinois,
>   More powerful than |  alongside fellow journalists
>   The voices you strangle today  |  Adolf Fischer and Albert Parsons.
>


Davidson, thank you for the link to the information.

1)  Yes,  "dummy@dummy:~$ aptitude show emacs" does work just fine. I guess
I just got into the habit of using "sudo" more than I really need to.

2)  The book is Second Edition (1996).  Almost a quarter of a century old,
but still quite useful, especially for a "mature" program like Emacs.

3)  I do have "emacs-common-non-dfsg" installed, and do have "non-free" in
my /etc/apt/sources.list.  I do use "info" from time to time, but I more
often use man pages, or just search online.

4)  The problem has been SOLVED.
I believe it was due to the insistence on Emacs on using
~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs to store the saved abbreviations, instead of
~/.abbrev_defs as suggested in the book.
I am guessing this is due to the change in recent years to using ".d"
supplemental directories.

The fix was to change a section of".emacs" from this (in the book):

(setq-default abbrev-mode t)
(read-abbrev-file "~/.abbrev_defs")
(setq save-abbrevs t)

to this:

(setq-default abbrev-mode t)
(setq save-abbrevs t)
(setq abbrev-file-name  "~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs") ;; tell emacs where to
read abbrev definitions from . . .
;; (read-abbrev-file "~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs") This line may be obsolete
[from "Learning GNU Emacs"]

[Note: it seems to work either with or without (read-abbrev-file
"~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs") being commented out].

So now "M-x write-abbrev-file" does seem to save the edited abbreviations
as it was supposed to all along.

I had mentioned that it was possible to manually
edit ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs to remove the entry, and then
save ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs, as a work-around.

But if I should be able "To delete any abbreviation, delete the line for
that abbreviation and save the file by
typing M-x write-abbrev-file.", then I should be able to do so.

Anyway, problem solved.
Thanks to all for the help.