Re: KDE4 and other WM: user-specific avoiding of plasma-autostart?

2011-01-18 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-01-18, Johannes Graumann  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is an u to date Debian testing installation.
>
> I'm running kde4 through awesome (having set the KDEWM environment 
> variable). To prevent plasma to start in this environment, I have renamed 
> both plasma-desktop.desktop and plasma-netbook.desktop, yet I do not like 
> this setup, as it is system-wide and not user-specific.
>
> Where in Debian might I prevent plasma's autostart in a user-specific 
> manner?
>
> Thanks for any hints.
>
> Sincerely, Joh
>
>

The following article shows you how:

http://www.sharpley.org.uk/node/8

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Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Paul Johnson  wrote:


> Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian?
>
> 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too?  (please say no)

No. (For Ubuntu, you'll be able to switch from Unity to GNOME Shell.
There's also a proposal floating around for a Gubuntu.)


> 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu?  So I need to
> change my apt repositories and then do what else?  If glibc or the
> kernel headers are new, I'll have to recompile everything I've built,
> but that's OK.

Even if a side-grade's doable, you're much better off with a clean install.


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Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny

2011-01-18 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 01:50:31 Joel Roth wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:27:11PM +, Lisi wrote:
> > On Monday 17 January 2011 22:30:11 Celejar wrote:
> > > > I have also had another look at Audacity, as suggested.  But there is
> > > > just too much there that I simply don't understand.  However, I shall
> > > > return to it if I get nowhere with gnome-media.
>
> Audacity is generally easy to use, available on multiple
> platforms, and is my first recommendation to people new to
> audio processing.
>
> > > You might also take a look at mhwaveedit.  Very simple, and not many
> > > options, but it works well.
>
> Depending on your needs, and if the GUI waveform display isn't so important
> you may like to experiment with Nama. (Nama does have a simple
> Tk UI for controlling transport, effects, etc. with more advanced
> features available at the command prompt.)
>
> Nama is Debian packaged. That version behaves reasonably well.
> You can also easily update to the latest/greatest version
> from github.
>
> http://freeshell.de/~bolangi/cgi1/nama.cgi/00home.html

Thanks very much, Joel.  I'll take a look.  But you illustrate my main problem 
very well.  In this context, what are transport and special effects??  Well, 
I could possibly guess what special effects are, but "transport"???

I simply don't know enough about recording to be able to use and/or understand 
anything beyond start, stop, fast forward, rewind, record and save. And it 
would be nice to be able to see whether or not anything is being recorded!

Lisi


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Re: KDE4 and other WM: user-specific avoiding of plasma-autostart?

2011-01-18 Thread Johannes Graumann
Liam O'Toole wrote:

> On 2011-01-18, Johannes Graumann  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is an u to date Debian testing installation.
>>
>> I'm running kde4 through awesome (having set the KDEWM environment
>> variable). To prevent plasma to start in this environment, I have renamed
>> both plasma-desktop.desktop and plasma-netbook.desktop, yet I do not like
>> this setup, as it is system-wide and not user-specific.
>>
>> Where in Debian might I prevent plasma's autostart in a user-specific
>> manner?
>>
>> Thanks for any hints.
>>
>> Sincerely, Joh
>>
>>
> 
> The following article shows you how:
> 
> http://www.sharpley.org.uk/node/8

Thank you very much, it does indeed.

Joh 



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Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 17 Jan 2011, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
> 

[snip] 
> I would like to note that it is easily possible to install *any* desktop
> environment or window manager on Debian (and probably Ubuntu) and that
> you don't have to use the default one. I typically don't install any
> tasks when I install a new system and add additional packages after the
> initial minimal installation.
> 
[snip]

This is one of the main reasons I like Debian - the flexibility one has
in choosing what to install (no desktop at all in my case, just Icewm).
Like you, I use a minimal install and then add packages as required. I
make a list of all the packages I have on my existing system and use
that to remind me of what I will probably use in the new one.


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Re: stardict dictionary packages.

2011-01-18 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:

> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/dictconv
> 
> (again, not tested) :-)
> 
> > Do You have any better idea?  
> 
> Use the dictionaries provided by Stardict in their web page.

Well. It is not as good as the auto conversion at update moment - to me
at least.


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Re: stardict dictionary packages.

2011-01-18 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, T:

> I had discussed the very same question with the stardict author
> before. The reason for above is, none of the existing dictionaries,
> including all that from dict, can be claimed to be copyright free. We
> had a list of over 10+ dictionaries, and in the end, none of them can
> be packed as Debian packages.

Can't it be moved to non-free repo then?


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Re: stardict dictionary packages.

2011-01-18 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Freeman:

> You might try that script Camaleon refers to. The benefit of the site
> is that there are more dictionaries available than in the repos.

Yes, You are right and that's what I have done.

A lot of options is a good thing, but I guess when it becomes necessary
to update those, manually - it becomes a hard task. Even whole the OS
packages - to update manually - would almost impossible - so, we have
to glory the people who have invented the APT and etc.

> I have never thought of keeping a dictionary word list so assiduously
> up to date.

It is of course not such a dilemma as security stuff - but it was worth
of investigation at least.


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X won't start: xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0x000a0000,0x20000) (Invalid argument)

2011-01-18 Thread innercityfadedofftheground

 X won't start: xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0x000a,0x2) 
(Invalid argument)

Note:  X always worked with grsecurity kernel provided that I disabledmmprotect 
(and other protections) on /etc/X11/X . I have done that. Iam using a config 
based on a config that worked in the recent past.

kernel: 2.6.36.3-grsec
hardware: toshiba satellite l505d-gs6000
Processor: dual core AMD
Videocard: radeon (using the standard opensource drivers)


Things I allready tried:
echo options radeon modeset=0 > /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf
(and updated the initramfs's, including the grsecurity one)
I tried with pnpbios turned on and off.

Error message:

(II) RADEON(0): PCI card detected
(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libint10.so
(II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
   compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
   ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
(II) RADEON(0): initializing int10

Fatal server error:
xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0x000a,0x2) (Invalid 
argument)

Also, at boot up, the first thing I get onscreen after grub inits is:
[   0.598030] pci_root PNP0A08:00: address space collision: hostbridge window 
[mem 0x000cc000-0x000c] conflicts with Video ROM [mem0x000cc000-0x000cedff]
Loading, please wait...

Logs:
Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/PdCHq2sM
dmesg: http://pastebin.com/a7qjUQTE

Please help me. I need X to work as I do 3d work.






Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
You need to simply try it out.

I don't think Debian will choose Unity instead of Gnome... (I'm
personally very positive of this... but that is only my serious belief)

anyway, I need to consider carefully abandoning Ubuntu. I'm sure they
will keep supporting Gnome.

Nevertheless, I stared a long time ago with RedHat7 (2 years), then
Mandrake, then Fedora, then Mandrake again (3 years), then Ubuntu (2
months) and, for the last 4 years, Debian. And I must say Debian really
rules. But Ubuntu is also very good.

I'dd suggest you try out Debian for some weeks.


On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 12:09 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Greetings.
> 
> On several laptops and desktops, I made the transition from Fedora ->
> Ubuntu about 3 years ago.  I did that mainly because Fedora updates
> kept "breaking" the Nvidia proprietary video drivers and the
> developers openly said that they didn't really care whether or not
> their distribution had drivers that could work with the hardware.
> Ubuntu developers at least recognized the problem and have a
> repository for commercial/addon drivers and they try to make sure the
> OS doesn't break the video drivers.
> 
> Anyway, I just learned that in the next Ubuntu, they are adopting the
> "Unity Desktop". I did some checking on that and I totally hate it.  I
> hate Mac GUI and am disgusted that the free/open movement pushes to
> imitate it.  If I liked the look/feel of it, then I might be willing
> to put up with the pains of transition in the next Ubuntu, but, well,
> I don't.  They say they will have other desktop options, but, in my
> experience, it will be tough to avoid the packaging and configuration
> changes that they enforce on everybody in order to make Unity work
> (maybe I'm too skeptical).
> 
> Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian?
> 
> 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too?  (please say no)
> 
> 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu?  So I need to
> change my apt repositories and then do what else?  If glibc or the
> kernel headers are new, I'll have to recompile everything I've built,
> but that's OK.
> 
> 3. If I make this change Ubuntu -> Debian, will I end up back in
> "Nvidia Hell" where the OS updates frequently break the
> commercial/proprietary video drivers?  I understand that nouveau is
> providing reasonable 2D for Nvidia cards, but my job requires the 3D
> support that seems available only from the commercial driver.
> 
> I'm not trolling, not trying for a flame war here. If you like Unity,
> more power to you.  If you like Ubuntu, OK, it has been good for me
> too.
> 
> PJ
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Professor, Political Science
> 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
> University of Kansas
> 
> 



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Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 12:09 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
> They say they will have other desktop options, but, in my
> experience, it will be tough to avoid the packaging and configuration
> changes that they enforce on everybody in order to make Unity work
> (maybe I'm too skeptical). 

I sincerely believe Gnome is too important for them to just leave it
"just like that"

but... I can't tell for sure...

Gnome will always be available... (I hope and believe) 

Joao



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OpenSSH key based authorisation problem

2011-01-18 Thread Adrian Levi
It seems that users other than me are not able to login to the server.
I use key nased authentication via putty and from other debian boxes
fine but other users from putty (haven't tried other users from linux)
fail with "No more authentication methods available".

adrian@jupiter:~$ ssh -v localhost
OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Connecting to localhost [::1] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /home/adrian/.ssh/id_rsa type 1
debug1: Checking blacklist file /usr/share/ssh/blacklist.RSA-4096
debug1: Checking blacklist file /etc/ssh/blacklist.RSA-4096
debug1: identity file /home/adrian/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1
debug1: identity file /home/adrian/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
debug1: identity file /home/adrian/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1
debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version
OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6
debug1: match: OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6 pat OpenSSH*
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug1: kex: server->client aes128-ctr hmac-md5 none
debug1: kex: client->server aes128-ctr hmac-md5 none
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
debug1: Host 'localhost' is known and matches the RSA host key.
debug1: Found key in /home/adrian/.ssh/known_hosts:7
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: Roaming not allowed by server
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug1: Offering public key: /home/adrian/.ssh/id_rsa
debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 533
debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA
debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey).
debug1: channel 0: new [client-session]
debug1: Requesting no-more-sessi...@openssh.com
debug1: Entering interactive session.
debug1: Sending environment.
debug1: Sending env LANG = en_AU.UTF-8
Linux jupiter 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Wed Jan 12 04:01:41 UTC 2011 i686

The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
No mail.
Last login: Tue Jan 18 21:53:03 2011 from
c211-31-35-102.rochd5.qld.optusnet.com.au
adrian@jupiter:~$

And another user that does not work:
carolyn@jupiter:~$ ssh -v localhost
OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6, OpenSSL 0.9.8o 01 Jun 2010
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Connecting to localhost [::1] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /home/carolyn/.ssh/id_rsa type 1
debug1: Checking blacklist file /usr/share/ssh/blacklist.RSA-2048
debug1: Checking blacklist file /etc/ssh/blacklist.RSA-2048
debug1: identity file /home/carolyn/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1
debug1: identity file /home/carolyn/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
debug1: identity file /home/carolyn/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1
debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version
OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6
debug1: match: OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6 pat OpenSSH*
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5p1 Debian-6
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug1: kex: server->client aes128-ctr hmac-md5 none
debug1: kex: client->server aes128-ctr hmac-md5 none
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
The authenticity of host 'localhost (::1)' can't be established.
RSA key fingerprint is fb:48:f6:04:2e:86:58:f7:1b:38:07:72:51:8e:0a:f1.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'localhost' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: Roaming not allowed by server
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug1: Offering public key: /home/carolyn/.ssh/id_rsa
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
debug1: Trying private key: /home/carolyn/.ssh/id_dsa
debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
Permission denied (publickey).
carolyn@jupiter:~$

Carolyn is a newly created test account, nothing but "adduser 

[OT-where's Gnome going]Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On the 18/01/2011 12:09, Joao Ferreira gmail wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 12:09 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> They say they will have other desktop options, but, in my
>> experience, it will be tough to avoid the packaging and configuration
>> changes that they enforce on everybody in order to make Unity work
>> (maybe I'm too skeptical). 
> 
> I sincerely believe Gnome is too important for them to just leave it
> "just like that"
> 
> but... I can't tell for sure...
> 
> Gnome will always be available... (I hope and believe) 
> 
> Joao
> 
> 
> 

Ubuntu shows more and more interest in Qt, it is now official in the
form of integrating Qt libraries in Ubuntu cd's, and as Shuttleworth
puts it [1] they'll have to make room for this to happen, at the expanse
of what ? Unless they ship on dvd instead of cd or create a separate
Gnome spin (which will come anyway from the "anti-unity" crowd), they
will have a hard time fitting everything on one live-cd.
Gnome is probably going to change a lot with shell, from a timing point
of view it makes sense to take this decision now that Gnome is about to
enter a period of extensive changes (and probably some instability) in
the fashion of what KDE did earlier.
Just speculating.

[1]
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-opening-up-to-Qt-applications-1170989.html


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Re: [OT-where's Gnome going]Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Didar Hossain
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
> On the 18/01/2011 12:09, Joao Ferreira gmail wrote:
>> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 12:09 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> They say they will have other desktop options, but, in my
>>> experience, it will be tough to avoid the packaging and configuration
>>> changes that they enforce on everybody in order to make Unity work
>>> (maybe I'm too skeptical).
>>
>> I sincerely believe Gnome is too important for them to just leave it
>> "just like that"
>>
>> but... I can't tell for sure...
>>
>> Gnome will always be available... (I hope and believe)
>>
>> Joao
>>
>>
>>
>
> Ubuntu shows more and more interest in Qt, it is now official in the
> form of integrating Qt libraries in Ubuntu cd's, and as Shuttleworth
> puts it [1] they'll have to make room for this to happen, at the expanse
> of what ? Unless they ship on dvd instead of cd or create a separate
> Gnome spin (which will come anyway from the "anti-unity" crowd), they

My personal speculation is that the reason Canonical is backing things like
Wayland, Unity and now Qt is probably to move into the Smartphone and
Tablet arena. The Unity interface is deceptively similar to ones found on
handheld devices. Canonical is playing this close to the chest possibly for
tactical reasons.

Besides, AFAIK Unity is a shell to the GNOME environment. GNOME should
be available as an option, just not the default.

My 2 paise,
Didar


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Re: Selling Preinstalled Debian on Laptop Hardware

2011-01-18 Thread Didar Hossain
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Narendra Sisodiya
 wrote:
> I would like to sell or setup a shop for Preinstalled Debian on Laptop.
> I am looking for developing a kind of company who can ship/sell a
> complete free (free as in freedom) product in India
> * Freedom OS - Debian will all the packages are free
> * openly specified hardware.
> * Debian should work out of box.
> I want to go this approach because I can create better products if I
> target for single hardware architecture.
>
> I am good at software side, but not good at hardware side.. So How can
> i accomplish this task ?
> I mean is there any good quality china or anyother laptop available
> which i can directly purchase or is there any similar efforts ?
> Any other help or suggestions ??

Maybe, the guy that runs ...

http://www.idasystems.net/


... can help.

Regards,
Didar


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Re: GMail backup on debian

2011-01-18 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 04:21:44 +, T o n g wrote:

> Thanks a lot for your detailed explanations, Camaleón.
> 
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:13:04 +, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>>> Moreover, how can I view those folders in thunderbird? (I was able to
>>> view local mailbox files before, but somehow I can't do it now)
>> 
>> You only have to create a new IMAP account in Iceweasel/Thunderbird for
>> your Gmail account and then you can access your Gmail's folder/sub-
>> folders as in any other IMAP server.
> 
> Oh, I meant to ask how to view *local* mail (in Maildir, or in mailbox
> files) using Iceweasel/Thunderbird. More of an offline viewer for local
> files, not with remote accounts.

Oops, sorry :-)

Thunderbird works natively/internally with mbox formated files so if, for 
example, you have a file ("big_gmail.mbox") with all your stored e-mails, 
to view them locally all you have to do is put that mbox file under your 
current Thunderbird folder profile (for instance, "~/.mozilla-thunderbird/
profile.default/Mail/Local Folders/gmail/big_gmail" and you are done 
(just in case, remove the ".mbox" extension if present).

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Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:10:30 +, T o n g wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:36:57 +, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> Camaleón, I read all your posts, and agree to them all. But I have to
> say I don't agree with you on this one.

No problem. I value most a good argumentation (being positive or 
negative) than any simple "hey, me too" point of view :-)
 
> For *this specific case*, I *do* consider the DD's reply being
> "pointlessly abrasive, inappropriate and offensive". 

And I also agree with you on that. The "wording" used here by the devel 
is totally useless and only makes the OP even anger. Needless to say it 
does help to solve the issue at all :-(

(small note: devels have also "bad" days)

> Giving such a jerky backlash, do you think it will make any difference
> for 1, or 10 or even a thousand Debian users oppose the DD's decision?

If there is enough people who wants the bug to be reviewed and they are 
completely ignored by the maintainer, why not? You can even arise this 
issue in Debian's devel mailing list or even contact the Board to review 
the situation and acts accordingly. "Abuse" should not occur neither in 
one side (devels/maintainers/packagers) nor another (users).
 
>> Debian is a distribution that tends to split packages a lot (and I mean
>> *a lot*) which I really think _is a good practice_ because it gives
>> both, plain users (by means of metapackages) and admins (by cherry
>> picking just the needed packages) the full control on their systems.
> 
> Totally agree. Also, please note, for this specific case, the DD doesn't
> even have to get himself into trouble fiddling with the gnome-core
> packages. Just put those off-loading packages into, say,
> 
>  gnome-cd1 = GNOME installation designed to fit on one CD
> 
> Nobody would care which GNOME packages he think should go into CD 1, and
> nobody would say anything.

Maybe the DD should have been clarified a bit more his decision. 

As I read it, it seems there has been some changes in the "gnome-session" 
package that now has "additional" dependencies (in fact, if you carefully 
compare both, "gnome-session" package in lenny with squeeze's, you can 
note that while in lenny, most of the required packages are libraries, 
debian's "gnome-session" package _now_ depends on "gnome-panel" or 
"metacity", to just cite some of the "big" ones) so I can understand the 
diatribe of the devel here: "gnome-core" has grown in size and 
dependencies (and I suppose not by his desire) so its primary role of the 
metapackage (to be a lightweight GNOME) has been vanished and should be 
rethinked again. 

Finally, he decided to give it another role → "gnome-core" as metapackage 
for a GNOME DE that fits into a CD.

Good or bad decision? Dunno, it's "just" a decision and as such can be 
enhanced, revoked, confirmed... as anything in this life :-)

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Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?

2011-01-18 Thread Curt Howland
Mr. Johnson, good morning.

> Anyway, I just learned that in the next Ubuntu, they are adopting the
> "Unity Desktop". I did some checking on that and I totally hate it.

I understand completely. I've had the same reaction to KDE4.

> Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian?

Yes. Although the "default" in Debian is the GNOME desktop, the Debian
developers go to great lengths to make running any desktop environment
or window manger that is packaged for Debian as seamless as possible.

The GDM (and KDM for that matter) login screens have a menu list of
all installed window managers and "desktop environments" from which to
choose. This allows for easy changes of desktop, so you can use which
ever one strikes your fancy, or just leave "last" selected to use the
one you're accustomed to.

Debian install CD#1 comes in three flavors, GNOME (generic), KDE and
XFCE (specified), you would have to be careful to download the
specific one you wanted if you don't want GNOME.

Debian DVD#1, bootable-business-card and net-install disk images have
the option (under "advanced") to install either the full KDE, GNOME or
XFCE package suites right from the start.

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_rc1/i386/iso-cd/

Scroll to the bottom of the above directory to see the "other" install
images. This is for Squeeze, the "about to be declared completely
stable".

> 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too?  (please say no)

Even if the Debian Developers were to make such a decision in several
years, the one and only time that would be an issue is if you didn't
know about it and chose the generic CD#1 with which to do an install.

It is a simple matter in aptitude, dselect or whatever your package
manager of choice, to simply install the desktop of your choice, and
choose it when you log in.

> 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu?  So I need to
> change my apt repositories and then do what else?

Maybe someone else has answered this question. Not knowing exactly
what the Ubuntu developers do that is different than Debian, I
personally wouldn't risk it without having done a full backup of my
data anyway in case it went bad and a reinstall was called for.

> 3. If I make this change Ubuntu -> Debian, will I end up back in
> "Nvidia Hell" where the OS updates frequently break the
> commercial/proprietary video drivers?

In my personal experience, I have only had that happen once in many
years of using the Nvidia proprietary driver: three days ago. One of
the simlinks was altered. Re-running the Nvidia proprietary installer
solved the problem, with nothing more difficult than stopping X,
running the binary, and logging back in.

HOWEVER, I run Unstable, by choice. Sid breaks all his toys, so I
expect to have problems like this once in a while. I fully expect that
if you chose to run Debian Stable, you wouldn't see that kind of
trouble.

I fully expect you will have no problems running Debian, whatever way
you choose to do so. The benefits of self-organizing anarchy.

Curt-

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Re: GRUB Update - Squeeze Installation

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Roman Gelfand wrote:

I have workstation containing both windows vista and debian lenny.
The boot manager was grub.

I had since removed ext and swap partions that housed debian lenny and
installed in it's place debian squeeze using usb netinst.  The
installation process saw windows vista and installed grub.  However,
the mbr doesn't see grub now, I get "no bootable device found".  BTW..
the ext3 partition is bootable.

Is there a way to use usb netinst to fix this?


Could it be that the boot partition isn't set bootable (flag)?

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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:43:16 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > >   mdadm --stop /dev/md125
> > >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md0
> > > --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1
> > >
> > >   mdadm --stop /dev/126
> > >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md1
> > > --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5
> >
> > Bob, a small glitch.  mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md array.
> > mdadm --stop was successful, before the above.
> 
> If mdadm --stop was successful then it must have been an array before
> that point.  So that doesn't make sense.  Double check everything.
> 
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sda1
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sdc1
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md0
> 
> > It appears that a "--create"-like command is needed.  Looks like
> > md125 is md0 overwritten somewhere...
> 
> If you "create" an array it will destroy the data that is on the
> array.  Unless you want to discard your data you don't want to do
> that.  You want to "assemble" an array from the components.  That is
> an important distinction.
> 
> You really want to be able to assemble the array.  Do so with one disk
> only if that is the only way (would need the mdadm forcing options to
> start an array without all of the components) and then add the other
> disk back in.  But if the array was up a moment before then it should
> still be okay.  So I am suspicious about the problem.  Poke around a
> little more with --examine and --detail first.  Something does seem
> right.
> 
> > Additionally, maybe I'm in the wrong config.  Running from a
> > sysrescuecd.  I do have a current Debian-AMD64-rescue-live cd.
> > Which I made this AM.
> 
> That would definitely improve things.  Because then you will have
> compatible versions of all of the tools.
> 
> Is your system amd64?
> 
Yes,  a Supermicro X7DAL-E M/B with dual XEON quad core 3.2 ghz
processors and 4 Seagate Barracuda drives. 8 gigs of Ram.



> > I need to find out what's there...  
> > further:
> > Can I execute the mdadm commands from a "su" out of a busybox
> > prompt? 
> 
> If you are in a busybox prompt at boot time then you are already root
> and don't need an explicit 'su'.  You should be able to execute root
> commands.  The question is whether the mdadm command is available at
> that point.  The reason for busybox is that it is a self-contained set
> of small unix commands.  'mdadm' isn't one of those and so probably
> isn't available.  Normally you can edit files and the like.  Normally
> I would mount and chroot to the system.  But you don't yet have a
> system.  So that is problematic at that point.
> 
> Bob

This AM when I booted, (I powerdown "init 0" each PM to save power &
hassle from S/O) the machine did not come up with grub-rescue prompt.
It booted to the correct grub menu then to Busy Box. I am thinking it
goes to BB because it can't find /var and or /usr on the md1/sda5 LVM
partition. I checked /proc/mdstat and lo & behold there was md1:active
with correct partitions and md0: active also correct partitions...  I
must have been seeing md125 et al from only the sysrescuecd 2.0.0.  So
here I sit with a root prompt from Busy Box I checked mdadm
--examine for all known partitions and mdadm --detail /mdo & /md1 and
all seems normal and correct.  No Errors. 

I seem to need a way of rerunning grub-install or update-grub to
fix this setup.  What say you??  I am thinking of trying to start the
/etc/grub.d demon.

Jack






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KDE install on Squeeze rc1

2011-01-18 Thread Josep M. Gasso
Hello.

In a Virtualbox VM , I installed Squeeze and some tools that I use, and
when go to install KDE, this want remove a lot of packages, acroread
inclosed...is this ok? Or there is any dependencies conflict?

This is the packages list for remove:

1)  acroread  
2)  acroread-data 
3)  acroread-debian-files 
4)  acroread-dictionary-en
5)  acroread-escript  
6)  acroread-l10n-en  
7)  acroread-plugins  
8)  build-essential   
9)  g++   
10) g++-4.4   
11) ia32-libs 
12) ia32-libs-gtk 
13) ia32-libs-xulrunner   
14) lib32asound2  
15) lib32bz2-1.0  
16) lib32gcc1 
17) lib32ncurses5 
18) lib32stdc++6  
19) lib32v4l-0
20) lib32z1   
21) libc6-dev 
22) libc6-i386
23) libstdc++6-4.4-dev 


Any help will be appreciated..it's a bit strange remove acroread and
libc6-i386 !!

Thanks
Josep

Here there is the full log:


root@debianbetaa:~# aptitude install kde-full
The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  libc-bin libc6 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  advancecomp{a} akonadi-server{a} akonadiconsole{a} akregator{a}
amor{a} ark{a} autopoint{a} blinken{a} blogilo{a} bomber{a} bovo{a}
cantor{a} 
  cantor-backend-kalgebra{a} cervisia{a} cvs{a} cvsservice{a} dirmngr{a}
dolphin{a} dragonplayer{a} edict{a} freespacenotifier{a} gaupol{a} 
  gawk{a} gdb{a} gdbserver{a} gettext{a} git{a} gnome-audio{a} gnugo{a}
gnupg-agent{a} gnupg2{a} google-gadgets-common{a} google-gadgets-gst{a} 
  google-gadgets-qt{a} google-gadgets-xul{a} gpgsm{a} granatier{a}
graphviz{a} gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio{a} gwenview{a} htdig{a} 
  javascript-common{a} juk{a} kaddressbook{a} kalarm{a} kalgebra{a}
kalzium{a} kalzium-data{a} kamera{a} kanagram{a} kanjidic{a} kapman{a} 
  kappfinder{a} kapptemplate{a} kate{a} katomic{a} kbattleship{a}
kblackbox{a} kblocks{a} kbounce{a} kbreakout{a} kbruch{a} kbugbuster{a} 
  kcachegrind{a} kcalc{a} kcharselect{a} kcolorchooser{a}
kde-config-cddb{a} kde-config-cron{a} kde-full kde-icons-mono{a}
kde-plasma-desktop{a} 
  kde-plasma-netbook{a} kde-standard{a} kde-window-manager{a}
kdeaccessibility{a} kdeadmin{a} kdeartwork{a} kdeartwork-emoticons{a} 
  kdeartwork-style{a} kdeartwork-theme-icon{a} kdebase-apps{a}
kdebase-bin{a} kdebase-data{a} kdebase-workspace{a}
kdebase-workspace-bin{a} 
  kdebase-workspace-data{a} kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins{a}
kdeedu{a} kdeedu-kvtml-data{a} kdegames{a} kdegames-card-data{a} 
  kdegames-mahjongg-data{a} kdegraphics{a} kdegraphics-libs-data{a}
kdegraphics-strigi-plugins{a} kdemultimedia{a}
kdemultimedia-kio-plugins{a} 
  kdenetwork{a} kdenetwork-filesharing{a} kdepasswd{a} kdepim{a}
kdepim-groupware{a} kdepim-kresources{a} kdepim-runtime{a} 
  kdepim-strigi-plugins{a} kdepim-wizards{a} kdepimlibs-kio-plugins{a}
kdeplasma-addons{a} kdesdk{a} kdesdk-kio-plugins{a} kdesdk-misc{a} 
  kdesdk-scripts{a} kdesdk-strigi-plugins{a} kdetoys{a} kdeutils{a}
kdewallpapers{a} kdewebdev{a} kdf{a} kdiamond{a} kdm{a} kfilereplace{a} 
  kfind{a} kfloppy{a} kfourinline{a} kgamma{a} kgeography{a}
kgeography-data{a} kget{a} kgoldrunner{a} kgpg{a} khangman{a}
khelpcenter4{a} kig{a} 
  kigo{a} killbots{a} kimagemapeditor{a} kinfocenter{a} kiriki{a}
kiten{a} kjots{a} kjumpingcube{a} kleopatra{a} klettres{a}
klettres-data{a} 
  klines{a} klinkstatus{a} klipper{a} kmag{a} kmahjongg{a} kmail{a}
kmines{a} kmix{a} kmousetool{a} kmouth{a} kmplot{a} kmtrace{a}
knetwalk{a} 
  knetworkconf{a} knm-runtime{a} knode{a} knotes{a} kolf{a} kollision{a}
kolourpaint4{a} kommander{a} kompare{a} konq-plugins{a} 
  konq-plugins-l10n{a} konqueror{a} konqueror-nsplugins{a} konquest{a}
konsole{a} konsolekalendar{a} kontact{a} kopete{a} korganizer{a} 
  kpartloader{a} kpat{a} kppp{a} krdc{a} kreversi{a} krfb{a}
krosspython{a} kruler{a} ksame{a} kscd{a} kscreensaver{a}
kscreensaver-xsavers{a} 
  kshisen{a} ksirk{a} ksnapshot{a} kspaceduel{a} ksquares{a} kstars{a}
kstars-data{a} ksudoku{a} ksysguard{a} ksysguardd{a} ksystemlog{a} 
  kteatime{a} ktimer{a} ktimetracker{a} ktouch{a} ktron{a} kttsd{a}
ktuberling{a} kturtle{a} ktux{a} kubrick{a} kuiviewer{a} kuser{a} 
  kwalletmanager{a} kweather{a} kwordquiz{a} kwrite{a}
libakonadi-contact4{a} libakonadi-kabc4{a} libakonadi-kcal4{a}
libakonadi-kde4{a} 
  libakonadi-kmime4{a} libakonadiprivate1{a} libasound2-plugins{a}
libc6-dbg{a} libcfitsio3{a} libcgraph5{a} libcln6{a}

Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:43:16 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > >   mdadm --stop /dev/md125
> > >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md0
> > > --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1
> > >
> > >   mdadm --stop /dev/126
> > >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md1
> > > --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5
> >
> > Bob, a small glitch.  mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md array.
> > mdadm --stop was successful, before the above.
> 
> If mdadm --stop was successful then it must have been an array before
> that point.  So that doesn't make sense.  Double check everything.
> 
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sda1
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sdc1
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md0
> 
> > It appears that a "--create"-like command is needed.  Looks like
> > md125 is md0 overwritten somewhere...
> 
> If you "create" an array it will destroy the data that is on the
> array.  Unless you want to discard your data you don't want to do
> that.  You want to "assemble" an array from the components.  That is
> an important distinction.
> 
> You really want to be able to assemble the array.  Do so with one disk
> only if that is the only way (would need the mdadm forcing options to
> start an array without all of the components) and then add the other
> disk back in.  But if the array was up a moment before then it should
> still be okay.  So I am suspicious about the problem.  Poke around a
> little more with --examine and --detail first.  Something does seem
> right.
> 
> > Additionally, maybe I'm in the wrong config.  Running from a
> > sysrescuecd.  I do have a current Debian-AMD64-rescue-live cd.
> > Which I made this AM.
> 
> That would definitely improve things.  Because then you will have
> compatible versions of all of the tools.
> 
> Is your system amd64?
> 
> > I need to find out what's there...  
> > further:
> > Can I execute the mdadm commands from a "su" out of a busybox
> > prompt? 
> 
> If you are in a busybox prompt at boot time then you are already root
> and don't need an explicit 'su'.  You should be able to execute root
> commands.  The question is whether the mdadm command is available at
> that point.  The reason for busybox is that it is a self-contained set
> of small unix commands.  'mdadm' isn't one of those and so probably
> isn't available.  Normally you can edit files and the like.  Normally
> I would mount and chroot to the system.  But you don't yet have a
> system.  So that is problematic at that point.
> 
> Bob


Bob, MORE!

Both /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab show entries for /dev/md126..

What the ... ?

Jack


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problem creating isfo

2011-01-18 Thread Rick Pasotto
Every time I execute the following sequence of commands (I've done it
many times) I get different results:

mkisofs -R -J -l -o /var/tmp/image.raw .
mount /var/tmp/image.raw -r -t iso9660 -o loop /cdrom
(for i in */*; do cmp -l "$i" "/cdrom/$i"; echo $? $i; done)|less

There are 100 files and each time a different one fails to compare.

I've tried using a different file system for the temporary directory.

What could be going wrong?

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Re: external drive enclosures / esata / port multipliers?

2011-01-18 Thread Monte Milanuk

On 1/17/11 5:57 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011, Monte Milanuk wrote:

My big question is... most of these external drive boxes seem to
claim support for JBOD, RAID 0, 1, 10, 5, etc. - should I presume
that is simply fake RAID like many commodity mobos have, and not


Either that, or worse: data-eating crap like many low-cost PCI-SATA host
bridges (such as some of the sil3xxx chips).


Interesting... any particular examples?  It seems that a lot of the SATA 
external drive enclosures I was looking at come with an eSATA card using 
a sil3xxx chipset, but no mention of data corruption in the user 
reviews, FWIW.





really usable in Linux? In that case, with all the drives hanging
off the one eSATA connection, will Linux (specifically Debian
Squeeze) see all four drives, or just the first one? Will I be able
to configure them in a RAID5 array as desired?


It will see all disks, yes.  But if the port-multiplier chip is buggy
crap, your data is toast.  It is best to avoid SATA port multipliers
like the plague because of that, since it is extremely difficult to shop
for an external bay with a particular chipset...

Look for a specific hardware product that has been in the market for at
least two years, and with many happy *Linux* users (Windows drivers
might be working around chip errata unknown to Linux libata).  Sorry, I
can't personally recommend any.

Or get a SAS HBA, and a SAS-attached enclosure.  Far more expensive, but
at least you can be sure it will work very well (yes, it will take SATA
disks as well as the more expensive (and better) SAS disks).



In other words '...avoid anything except the most expensive 
enterprise-grade equipment for a home backup storage solution'


While good advice I'm sure, it kind of blows the budget out of the water 
and nixes the whole project.




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Re: KDE install on Squeeze rc1

2011-01-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 08:52:05 Josep M. Gasso wrote:
> In a Virtualbox VM , I installed Squeeze and some tools that I use, and
> when go to install KDE, this want remove a lot of packages, acroread
> inclosed...is this ok? Or there is any dependencies conflict?
> 
> This is the packages list for remove:
> 
> 1)  acroread
> 2)  acroread-data
> 3)  acroread-debian-files
> 4)  acroread-dictionary-en
> 5)  acroread-escript
> 6)  acroread-l10n-en
> 7)  acroread-plugins

Where'd you get these packages, I don't see it available in Lenny, testing, 
sid, or experimental.  I see acroread-debian-files in the unofficial (and not 
ALWAYS compatible) multimedia repository, but not the others.

So, I'd say they are "safe" to remove, but you won't have Adobe Acrobat Reader 
anymore.  I don't see a Debian package for that program, not even a -installer 
or -downloader package, even in multimedia.

(I recommend Okular as a PDF reader, but I'm a KDE user.)

> 8)  build-essential
> 9)  g++
> 10) g++-4.4

These should be able to stay on a system with KDE SC 4 installed; they are on 
my system.  Most likely they were dropped because your aptitude wants the 
wrong version of (or to remove) stuff they depend on.

You should be able to retain these package and still install KDE, if you want.  

I don't know if you are aware, but aptitude will propose other solutions if 
you don't accept the first one, and you can further guide the resolver with 
various preference expressions from the "[Y/n/q/?]" prompt.  Use the '?' 
option to get more details about that.  I also like using the ncurses inteface 
for that; you can jump right into the resolver part of the ncurses interface 
by answering 'e' at the "[Y/n/q/?]" prompt.

> 11) ia32-libs
> 12) ia32-libs-gtk
> 13) ia32-libs-xulrunner
> 14) lib32asound2
> 15) lib32bz2-1.0
> 17) lib32ncurses5
> 19) lib32v4l-0

I don't have any of these installed.  As library packages, they are likely 
safe to remove.  Other packages that need them will Depend on them and prevent 
their removal.  They only reason to have a library package installed 
explicitly is if you are a developer using that library in your own programs.

> 16) lib32gcc1
> 18) lib32stdc++6
> 20) lib32z1

I do have these installed on my system with KDE SC 4.  So, 32-bit libraries 
are not entirely incompatible with it.  Still, these should be safe to remove 
as well.  (I have gcc-multilib installed for compiling ia32 programs on my 
amd64 installation; I am a developer from time to time.)

> 21) libc6-dev
> 22) libc6-i386
> 23) libstdc++6-4.4-dev

libc6-i386 is another 32-bit library and, again, safe to remove.  The -dev 
packages are normally only needed for developers, but they will be pulled in 
by build-essential, if you decide to keep that package.

> Any help will be appreciated..it's a bit strange remove acroread and
> libc6-i386 !!

I think what is happening is that KDE SC 4 needs a newer libc than what the 
(old, unmaintained?) acroread package supports.  So, installing KDE SC 4 
requires the acroread package to be removed.  This removal "cascades" to your 
32-bit libraries since acroread was the only program using them.

> Here there is the full log:
> 
> root@debianbetaa:~# aptitude install kde-full
> The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
>   libc-bin libc6

I'd recommend against downgrading these packages (or any package, FWIW).  I'm 
not sure what part of kde-full would need the 2.11.2-6+squeeze1 version (from 
testing[security]) specifically instead of the 2.11.2-7 version that is 
currently in testing (and includes the security fix).

That said, I don't use kde-full.  I use kde-standard, plus other packages as 
needed.  (I used to use kde-minimal, but that package seems to have been 
dropped at least temporarily by the KDE/Qt packaging team.)

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Re: KDE install on Squeeze rc1

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 01/18/2011 10:35 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> 1)  acroread
>> > 2)  acroread-data
>> > 3)  acroread-debian-files
>> > 4)  acroread-dictionary-en
>> > 5)  acroread-escript
>> > 6)  acroread-l10n-en
>> > 7)  acroread-plugins
> Where'd you get these packages, I don't see it available in Lenny, testing, 
> sid, or experimental.  I see acroread-debian-files in the unofficial (and not 
> ALWAYS compatible) multimedia repository, but not the others.


> 
> So, I'd say they are "safe" to remove, but you won't have Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader 
> anymore.  I don't see a Debian package for that program, not even a 
> -installer 
> or -downloader package, even in multimedia.
I have this installed:

ii  adobereader-enu 8.1.1
 Adobe Reader allows you to view navigate and
print PDF files.

> 
> (I recommend Okular as a PDF reader, but I'm a KDE user.)
> 
I love Okular!!


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Re: KDE install on Squeeze rc1

2011-01-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 09:44:14 Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On 01/18/2011 10:35 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > Where'd you get these packages, I don't see it available in Lenny,
> > testing, sid, or experimental.  I see acroread-debian-files in the
> > unofficial (and not ALWAYS compatible) multimedia repository, but not
> > the others.
> > 
> > So, I'd say they are "safe" to remove, but you won't have Adobe Acrobat
> > Reader anymore.  I don't see a Debian package for that program, not even
> > a -installer or -downloader package, even in multimedia.
> 
> I have this installed:
> 
> ii  adobereader-enu 8.1.1
>  Adobe Reader allows you to view navigate and
> print PDF files.

$ apt-cache policy adobereader-enu
N: Unable to locate package adobereader-enu
$ aptitude search adobereader-enu
$

Yeah, I'm not seeing that package either.

I have many repositories enabled, so I'm still left wondering where that 
package came from.

$ apt-cache policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 release a=now
 500 http://debian-multimedia.org/ experimental/non-free Translation-en_US
 500 http://debian-multimedia.org/ experimental/main Translation-en_US
 300 http://debian-multimedia.org/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
 release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia 
Packages,a=experimental,n=experimental,l=Unofficial Multimedia 
Packages,c=main
 origin debian-multimedia.org
 500 http://debian-multimedia.org/ unstable/non-free Translation-en_US
 500 http://debian-multimedia.org/ unstable/main Translation-en_US
 500 http://debian-multimedia.org/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
 release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia 
Packages,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main
 origin debian-multimedia.org
 500 http://debian-multimedia.org/ testing/non-free Translation-en_US
 500 http://debian-multimedia.org/ testing/main Translation-en_US
 700 http://debian-multimedia.org/ testing/main amd64 Packages
 release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia 
Packages,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main
 origin debian-multimedia.org
 500 http://debian-multimedia.org/ stable/non-free Translation-en_US
 500 http://debian-multimedia.org/ stable/main Translation-en_US
 990 http://debian-multimedia.org/ stable/main amd64 Packages
 release v=5.0r0,o=Unofficial Multimedia 
Packages,a=stable,n=lenny,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main
 origin debian-multimedia.org
 800 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ lenny-backports/non-free 
amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian Backports,a=lenny-backports,n=lenny-backports,l=Debian 
Backports,c=non-free
 origin backports.debian.org
 800 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ lenny-backports/contrib 
amd64 Packages 
 release o=Debian Backports,a=lenny-backports,n=lenny-backports,l=Debian 
Backports,c=contrib
 origin backports.debian.org
 800 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ lenny-backports/main amd64 
Packages
 release o=Debian Backports,a=lenny-backports,n=lenny-backports,l=Debian 
Backports,c=main
 origin backports.debian.org
 990 http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/ stable/volatile/non-free 
amd64 Packages  
 release o=volatile.debian.org,a=stable,n=lenny,l=debian-volatile,c=non-
free
 origin volatile.debian.org
 990 http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/ stable/volatile/contrib 
amd64 Packages   
 release o=volatile.debian.org,a=stable,n=lenny,l=debian-
volatile,c=contrib
 origin volatile.debian.org
 990 http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/ stable/volatile/main amd64 
Packages
 release o=volatile.debian.org,a=stable,n=lenny,l=debian-volatile,c=main
 origin volatile.debian.org
 700 http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ testing/updates/non-free 
amd64 Packages  
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free
 origin security.debian.org
 700 http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ testing/updates/contrib 
amd64 Packages   
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib
 origin security.debian.org
 700 http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ testing/updates/main amd64 
Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=squeeze,l=Debian-Security,c=main
 origin security.debian.org
 990 http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stable/updates/non-free 
amd64 Packages   
 release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,n=lenny,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free
 origin security.debian.org
 990 http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stable/updates/contrib amd64 
Packages
 release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,n=lenny,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib
 origin security.debian.org
 990 http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stable/updates/main amd64 
Packages
 release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,n=lenny,l=Debian-Security,c=main
 origin security.debian.org
 300 http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ experimental/non-free amd64 Packages
 rel

Re: [solved/workaround] Re: logcheck

2011-01-18 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-01-18 a las 13:42 +0100, Informatik.hu escribió:

(resending to the list)

> On 2011.01.17. 20:34, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:34:56 +0100, Informatik.hu wrote:
>>
>>> On 2011.01.17. 16:04, Camaleón wrote:
>> (..)
>>
 Why e-mails to "root" are not delivered to the current and updated host
 domain? Check your alises database ("cat /etc/alisases") and your
 hostname (hostname -d).
>>> SENDMAILTO="logcheck"
>>>
>>> in aliases
>>>
>>> logcheck:root
>>> root:szun
>>> szun:[where i wanted to send the logcheck mai]
>>>
>>> so i changed the sendmailto= to my destination email, and voila, it
>>> comes with the newdomain!
>> Were you using the "/etc/aliases" file before making the domain name
>> change? Or to make it short, where did you exactly changed the "old"
>> domain name, what file did you edit?
>
> i have changed /etc/mailname, /etc/postfix/main.cf (myhostname,  
> mydestination lines).
> the hostname has not been changed.

Okay... and where did have defined the e-mail address for logcheck 
reports, I mean, what was the content of the "/etc/aliases" file?

There are many ways to set the e-mail, you can directly tweak the 
variable in "/etc/logcheck/logcheck.conf" or you can leave the default 
value and use the aliases file.

>>> any suugestions?

>> Hum... I dunno how Exim works with this file, but in Postfix you have to
>> reload the "/etc/aliases" database as soon as you edit it to update the
>> records.

> in the aliases file, was no reference for the old domain. a generated a  
> new hash file for postfix, and restarted postifx.

Hum, then you should have definitively reviewed your Postfix logs to 
find out why the e-mail was being delivered to the old domain after you 
changed the main.cf file, adjusted "myhostname"/"mydestination" and 
reloaded postfix to apply the changes.

>> What e-mail server/facility are you using? :-?
>>
>
> postfix :)

Ouch! :-)

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Re: GRUB Update - Squeeze Installation

2011-01-18 Thread Roman Gelfand
I am a bit confused here.  When installing squeeze, there is a section
which creates.  I selected automatic partition creation.  As a result,
ext3 and swap partitions were created.  The ext3 partition that
contains os is set to bootable.

When you say boot partition, do you mean ext3?

Thanks in advance

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Andrew McGlashan
 wrote:
> Roman Gelfand wrote:
>>
>> I have workstation containing both windows vista and debian lenny.
>> The boot manager was grub.
>>
>> I had since removed ext and swap partions that housed debian lenny and
>> installed in it's place debian squeeze using usb netinst.  The
>> installation process saw windows vista and installed grub.  However,
>> the mbr doesn't see grub now, I get "no bootable device found".  BTW..
>> the ext3 partition is bootable.
>>
>> Is there a way to use usb netinst to fix this?
>
> Could it be that the boot partition isn't set bootable (flag)?
>
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Re: KDE install on Squeeze rc1

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 01/18/2011 10:59 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> $ apt-cache policy adobereader-enu
> N: Unable to locate package adobereader-enu
> $ aptitude search adobereader-enu
> $
> 
> Yeah, I'm not seeing that package either.

# aptitude search adobereader-enu
i   adobereader-enu - Adobe Reader allows you to view
navigate a

# apt-cache search adobereader-enu
adobereader-enu - Adobe Reader allows you to view navigate and print PDF
files. This version adds advanced forms support (save), better
integration with Adobe Acrobat workflows, customizable toolbars and
better overall performance.


> 
> I have many repositories enabled, so I'm still left wondering where that 
> package came from.
> 
> $ apt-cache policy

$ apt-cache policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 release a=now
 900 http://dl.google.com stable/main Packages
 release v=1.0,o=Google, Inc.,a=stable,l=Google,c=main
 origin dl.google.com
 900 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages
 release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian-Security,c=main
 origin security.debian.org
 900 http://people.connexer.com lenny/main Packages
 release o=Roberto Sanchez,a=stable,l=Connexer Local Packages,c=main
 origin people.connexer.com
 700 http://dl.google.com testing/main Packages
 release o=Google, Inc.,a=testing,l=Google,c=main
 origin dl.google.com
 700 http://dl.google.com testing/non-free Packages
 release o=Google, Inc.,a=testing,l=Google,c=non-free
 origin dl.google.com
 900 http://dl.google.com stable/main Packages
 release v=1.0,o=Google, Inc.,a=stable,l=Google,c=main
 origin dl.google.com
 900 http://dl.google.com stable/non-free Packages
 release v=1.0,o=Google, Inc.,a=stable,l=Google,c=non-free
 origin dl.google.com
 900 http://volatile.debian.org stable/volatile/non-free Packages
 release o=volatile.debian.org,a=stable,l=debian-volatile,c=non-free
 origin volatile.debian.org
 900 http://volatile.debian.org stable/volatile/contrib Packages
 release o=volatile.debian.org,a=stable,l=debian-volatile,c=contrib
 origin volatile.debian.org
 900 http://volatile.debian.org stable/volatile/main Packages
 release o=volatile.debian.org,a=stable,l=debian-volatile,c=main
 origin volatile.debian.org
 900 http://repository.spotify.com stable/non-free Packages
 release v=0.4,o=Spotify LTD,a=stable,l=Spotify Public
Repository,c=non-free
 origin repository.spotify.com
 900 http://deb.torproject.org lenny/main Packages
 release o=TorProject,a=stable,c=main
 origin deb.torproject.org
 900 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages
 release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian-Security,c=main
 origin security.debian.org
 900 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/non-free Packages
 release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free
 origin security.debian.org
 900 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/contrib Packages
 release v=5.0,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib
 origin security.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/main Packages
 release v=5.0-updates,o=Debian,a=proposed-updates,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.us.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/non-free Packages
 release v=5.0-updates,o=Debian,a=proposed-updates,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.us.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny-proposed-updates/contrib Packages
 release v=5.0-updates,o=Debian,a=proposed-updates,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.us.debian.org
 500 http://www.openprinting.org lsb3.2/main Packages
 release
o=\http://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/debian/\,a=lsb3.2,l=printdriver,c=main
 origin www.openprinting.org
 500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny/main Translation-en_US
 900 http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny/main Packages
 release v=5.0r0,o=Unofficial Multimedia
Packages,a=stable,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main
 origin www.debian-multimedia.org
 900 http://ftp.debian.org lenny/non-free Packages
 release v=5.0.7,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.debian.org
 900 http://ftp.debian.org lenny/contrib Packages
 release v=5.0.7,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.debian.org
 900 http://ftp.debian.org lenny/main Packages
 release v=5.0.7,o=Debian,a=stable,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.debian.org
 200 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Packages
 release o=Debian Backports,a=lenny-backports,l=Debian
Backports,c=non-free
 origin www.backports.org
 200 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib Packages
 release o=Debian Backports,a=lenny-backports,l=Debian
Backports,c=contrib
 origin www.backports.org
 200 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages
 release o=Debian Backports,a=lenny-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=main
 origin www.backports.org
 500 http://www.da-cha.jp ./ Packages

Re: JACK configuration

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Blair Mason Jr.
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:00:49 -0800
Bob McGowan  wrote:

> On 01/16/2011 11:15 AM, Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I am attempting to record audio on my laptop.  To this end, i've installed 
> > Ardour/JACK.  I have *finally* managed to get ALSA to work.  However, I now 
> > have a problem - the sound that is wired into the Mic In jack on the front 
> > of the laptop will play back (so basically my laptop is functioning as a 
> > speaker), but I can't seem to figure out how to get JACK to connect.  Can 
> > anyone help me configure JACK so that the input will go to Ardour?  The 
> > connection graph shows that system:capture1 and system:capture2 are wired 
> > to go to Ardour:Audio In 1 and Ardour:Audio In 2, respectively (so it seems 
> > like this should work).  However, when the Ardour is prepped for record, 
> > the volume bars that indicate input volume are relatively static, while I 
> > can hear sound being played back.  After recording, the track is silent.
> > 
> > Portions of the output of amixer that look relevant:
> > 
> <<--deleted-->>
> 
> I'm not sure the ALSA settings are relevant, because ...
> 
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> > 
> 
> Please note, this is by memory and it's been a while, I would need a
> little time to be able to verify my sound system setup.  With that caveat:
> 
> First, to confirm that you have in fact set up to record:
> 
> 1.  IIRC, Ardour by default only has things set up for a pass through
> type of operation, which matches what you've described.  Again, IIRC,
> you will need to create a "recording track" and connect it between the
> master out and master in channels.
> 
> I will verify exactly what I have set up as soon as I can and let you
> know the various settings.
> 
> 2.  If you believe things should be working because you've made
> connections, it may be you haven't gotten things correctly "armed".  In
> the main window, in the controls section for the track you intend to
> record on, there is a small round icon, which must be selected to arm
> the track.
> 
> In the top section, there is also a round icon in a button (a bit larger
> than the one mentioned above ;), to the right of the playback button.
> You must select it next.
> 
> Then, select the playback button to start processing.  If everything is
> working, you should now see a light colored "ribbon" being created
> across the screen for the recording track only, and there should be two
> lines (assuming stereo input), inside the ribbon.  If volumes are high
> enough, the lines should show amplitude variations.
> 
> -- 
> Bob McGowan
> 

Thanks, I'm able to record now.  Still working on getting ardour to play back,
but if worst comes to worst I can just export the wav and play it through VLC :)

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Re: OpenSSH key based authorisation problem

2011-01-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 09:55:32PM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote:
> It seems that users other than me are not able to login to the server.
> I use key nased authentication via putty and from other debian boxes
> fine but other users from putty (haven't tried other users from linux)
> fail with "No more authentication methods available".
> 
Any time I've ever had trouble with key based authentication, it was
because of improper permissions on my .ssh folder.  It should be set:

chmod 700 ~/.ssh

I'd double-check that before going any further.

-Rob


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Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread deloptes
Hal Vaughan wrote:

> I retired at 45, thanks to my business, which was based on my own custom
> software.  The first program I released to run on my clients' computers
> was in Java, within 6 months after I learned Java and OOP.  In the next 18
> months that version was in use, I had fewer than 5 bug reports (because I
> tested the hell out of it before releasing it).  But I had to respond to
> each bug report and usually had the fix out within 12 hours.  I would have
> lost a lot of money if I had been as dismissive of bug reports as some
> developers are.

well in FOSS no one looses anything, so ... probably that's why you feel
neglected. I'm afraid no one can complain about open source not working.
You can fix it and use it or just don't!
This is something I don't like either, but I don't think anything can be
done. Everything has a +/- side. ... and for it is free I think the quality
is great.

regards


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Re: GRUB Update - Squeeze Installation

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Hi,

Roman Gelfand wrote:

I am a bit confused here.  When installing squeeze, there is a section
which creates.  I selected automatic partition creation.  As a result,
ext3 and swap partitions were created.  The ext3 partition that
contains os is set to bootable.

When you say boot partition, do you mean ext3?


I mean wherever the /boot is available, sometimes it is in it's own 
partition, other times it is part of the / partition.


So the ext3 partition needs to have the boot flag enabled, if it is, 
then I don't have any further answer at this time.


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Re: KDE install on Squeeze rc1

2011-01-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 10:19:47 Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On 01/18/2011 10:59 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > $ apt-cache policy adobereader-enu
> > N: Unable to locate package adobereader-enu
> > $ aptitude search adobereader-enu
> > $
> > 
> > Yeah, I'm not seeing that package either.
> 
> # apt-cache search adobereader-enu
> adobereader-enu - Adobe Reader allows you to view navigate and print PDF
> files. This version adds advanced forms support (save), better
> integration with Adobe Acrobat workflows, customizable toolbars and
> better overall performance.

What about the output of (apt-cache policy adobereader-enu)?  That will 
probably be the best indicator of where the package originated (if it is still 
available in one or more remote repositories).
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Evolution 2.30 (squeeze) with exchange

2011-01-18 Thread deloptes

Is someone (already) using Evolution 2.30 with squeeze with exchange server.
If yes for how long and what is your impression. Can it be considered to be
stable? Any data losses?

What would be your advise to use? Which version of Evolution works best with
exchange?

thanks in advance

regards



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Re: OpenSSH key based authorisation problem

2011-01-18 Thread François TOURDE
Le 14992ième jour après Epoch,
Adrian Levi écrivait:

> Carolyn is a newly created test account, nothing but "adduser carolyn"
> and "ssh-keygen -b4096"
> My key is 4096 bytes long, it works, default length keys didn't work
> so I thought i'd try the same key length.
>
> This box is newly updated from lenny to testing, although the package
> versions are identical (Version: 1:5.5p1-6) with another Squeeze box
> that works perfectly.
>
> I discovered this problem while trying to set up a sftp account for a
> Website designer, My accound can sftp perfectly.
>
> I can't think on what else to provide at the moment.

Did you put the public key on the correct .ssh/authorised_keys ? The new
user (carolyn) must have his/her own ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, or you must
try "ssh -v adrian@localhost" if you put the key on adrian's home.

My 2 cents.


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Re: KDE install on Squeeze rc1

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 01/18/2011 12:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> # apt-cache search adobereader-enu
>> > adobereader-enu - Adobe Reader allows you to view navigate and print PDF
>> > files. This version adds advanced forms support (save), better
>> > integration with Adobe Acrobat workflows, customizable toolbars and
>> > better overall performance.
> What about the output of (apt-cache policy adobereader-enu)?  That will 
> probably be the best indicator of where the package originated (if it is 
> still 
> available in one or more remote repositories).

# apt-cache policy adobereader-enu
adobereader-enu:
  Installed: 8.1.1
  Candidate: 8.1.1
  Version table:
 *** 8.1.1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status



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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Jack Schneider wrote:
> Both /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab show entries for /dev/md126..
> 
> What the ... ?

After you modified thei files in the real filesystem, did you update the
initramfs?

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Re: external drive enclosures / esata / port multipliers?

2011-01-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Monte Milanuk wrote:
> On 1/17/11 5:57 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> >On Mon, 17 Jan 2011, Monte Milanuk wrote:
> >>My big question is... most of these external drive boxes seem to
> >>claim support for JBOD, RAID 0, 1, 10, 5, etc. - should I presume
> >>that is simply fake RAID like many commodity mobos have, and not
> >
> >Either that, or worse: data-eating crap like many low-cost PCI-SATA host
> >bridges (such as some of the sil3xxx chips).
> 
> Interesting... any particular examples?  It seems that a lot of the
> SATA external drive enclosures I was looking at come with an eSATA
> card using a sil3xxx chipset, but no mention of data corruption in
> the user reviews, FWIW.

No, look in bugzilla.kernel.org, and assorted reports in LKML... not all
SIL chips are broken.

> In other words '...avoid anything except the most expensive
> enterprise-grade equipment for a home backup storage solution'

Nah.  But be warned you have a 50% chance of getting crap, and plan
accordingly to try to avoid the trap.

And "most expensive enterprise-grade equipment" doesn't describe a small
SAS jbod enclosure and a SAS HBA.  You can probably get both for well
below US$ 1k, and you can populate it with SATA disks just fine.

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Re: KDE install on Squeeze rc1

2011-01-18 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:52:05 +0100, Josep M. Gasso wrote:

> In a Virtualbox VM , I installed Squeeze and some tools that I use, and
> when go to install KDE, this want remove a lot of packages, acroread
> inclosed...is this ok? Or there is any dependencies conflict?

(...)

> root@debianbetaa:~# aptitude install kde-full 
> The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
>   libc-bin libc6

(...)

> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   libc6-i386: Depends: libc6 (= 2.11.2-7) but 2.11.2-6+squeeze1 is to be
> installed.
>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.11.2-7) but 2.11.2-6+squeeze1 is to be
> installed.

(...)

> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

No, of course, do not accept.

I would try the "--show-why" parameter and/or add more verbosity to the 
aptitude output (-vvv), maybe you can get a clue on why the package 
"libc6" wants/has to be downgraded :-?

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Re: external drive enclosures / esata / port multipliers?

2011-01-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> And "most expensive enterprise-grade equipment" doesn't describe a small
> SAS jbod enclosure and a SAS HBA.  You can probably get both for well
> below US$ 1k, and you can populate it with SATA disks just fine.

It is really well bellow US$ 1k:
http://www.pc-pitstop.com/sas_cables_enclosures/

SOHO-grade, but still...

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Re: external drive enclosures / esata / port multipliers?

2011-01-18 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:32:51 -0800, Monte Milanuk wrote:

(...)

> My big question is... most of these external drive boxes seem to claim
> support for JBOD, RAID 0, 1, 10, 5, etc. - should I presume that is
> simply fake RAID like many commodity mobos have, and not really usable
> in Linux? In that case, with all the drives hanging off the one eSATA
> connection, will Linux (specifically Debian Squeeze) see all four
> drives, or just the first one? Will I be able to configure them in a
> RAID5 array as desired?

I would take a closely look on each enclosure specs because there can be 
many differences between them.

(a quick Google search provides some interesting results on this matter)

http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&complete=0&site=webhp&source=hp&q=esata+por+multiplier+enclosure&btnG=Search

OTOH, you can also review this page where there are many sata chipsets 
listed along with their PMP capabilities:

https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/SATA_hardware_features

But again, nothing prevents the manufacturer from disabling such option 
in the device firmware :-/

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Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 18 2011 05:06:52 Camaleón wrote:
> Finally, he decided to give it another role → "gnome-core" as metapackage
> for a GNOME DE that fits into a CD.
>
> Good or bad decision? Dunno, it's "just" a decision and as such can be
> enhanced, revoked, confirmed... as anything in this life :-)

Dear Chameleon,

It's a bad decision.  Please reverse it before Squeeze so that
this bad decision doesn't cause unnecessary work for thousands
of Debian sysadmins and tens of thousands of Debian power-users.

Gracias,

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Re: OpenSSH key based authorisation problem

2011-01-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 06:25:44PM +0100, François TOURDE wrote:
> Le 14992ième jour après Epoch,
> Adrian Levi écrivait:
> 
> > Carolyn is a newly created test account, nothing but "adduser carolyn"
> > and "ssh-keygen -b4096"
> > My key is 4096 bytes long, it works, default length keys didn't work
> > so I thought i'd try the same key length.
> >
> > This box is newly updated from lenny to testing, although the package
> > versions are identical (Version: 1:5.5p1-6) with another Squeeze box
> > that works perfectly.
> >
> > I discovered this problem while trying to set up a sftp account for a
> > Website designer, My accound can sftp perfectly.
> >
> > I can't think on what else to provide at the moment.
> 
> Did you put the public key on the correct .ssh/authorised_keys ? The new
> user (carolyn) must have his/her own ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, or you must
> try "ssh -v adrian@localhost" if you put the key on adrian's home.
> 
That is the default location for authorized_keys, but it can be changed
in sshd_config with the AuthorizedKeysFile parameter.  Better check and
make sure somebody didn't alter it from the default.

-Rob


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Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Slicky Johnson
I took a moment this morning to compare the differences between the
two packages mentioned thus far in this thread, gnome-core and
gnome-session. 

gnome-core contains 524 packages 
gnome-session contains 368 packages

There is a 367MB difference between the installed sizes of gnome-core
and gnome-session, and a 150MB difference in what will be downloaded.
gnome-core contains all packages supplied by gnome-session. gnome-core
however has the additional 157 packages listed below. That is a rather
large difference only adding a couple end user applications.

bogofilter{a}
bogofilter-bdb{a}
bogofilter-common{a}
dmz-cursor-theme{a}
eog{a}
epiphany-browser{a}
epiphany-browser-data{a}
evince{a}
evince-common{a}
evolution{a}
evolution-common{a}
evolution-plugins{a}
evolution-webcal{a}
file-roller{a}
freepats{a}
gedit{a}
gedit-common{a}
gir1.0-clutter-1.0{a}
gir1.0-freedesktop{a}
gir1.0-glib-2.0{a}
gir1.0-gstreamer-0.10{a}
gir1.0-gtk-2.0{a}
gir1.0-json-glib-1.0{a}
gnome-core
gnome-disk-utility{a}
gnome-js-common{a}
gnome-screensaver{a}
gnome-session{a}
gnome-terminal{a}
gnome-terminal-data{a}
gnome-themes{a}
gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg{a}
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad{a}
gtk2-engines{a}
gtk2-engines-pixbuf{a}
libass4{a}
libavahi-gobject0{a}
libavahi-ui0{a}
libavcodec52{a}
libavformat52{a}
libavutil49{a}
libboost-python1.42.0{a}
libcdaudio1{a}
libcelt0-0{a}
libclutter-1.0-0{a}
libcupsimage2{a}
libcurl3-gnutls{a}
libdc1394-22{a}
libdca0{a}
libdirac-encoder0{a}
libdirectfb-1.2-9{a}
libdjvulibre21{a}
libdjvulibre-text{a}
libelf1{a}
libenca0{a}
libepc-1.0-2{a}
libepc-common{a}
libepc-ui-1.0-2{a}
libevince2{a}
libevolution{a}
libfaad2{a}
libfftw3-3{a}
libflite1{a}
libgalago3{a}
libgdata7{a}
libgdata-common{a}
libgdu-gtk0{a}
libgirepository1.0-0{a}
libgme0{a}
libgs8{a}
libgsl0ldbl{a}
libgsm1{a}
libgtkhtml3.14-19{a}
libgtkhtml-editor0{a}
libgtkhtml-editor-common{a}
libgtkimageview0{a}
libgtksourceview2.0-0{a}
libgtksourceview2.0-common{a}
libiptcdata0{a}
libjack-jackd2-0{a}
libjbig2dec0{a}
libjson-glib-1.0-0{a}
libkate1{a}
libkpathsea5{a}
liblcms1{a}
liblircclient0{a}
liblua5.1-0{a}
libmimic0{a}
libmms0{a}
libmodplug1{a}
libmpcdec6{a}
libmusicbrainz4c2a{a}
libofa0{a}
libopenjpeg2{a}
libopenspc0{a}
libpaper1{a}
libpaper-utils{a}
libpoppler5{a}
libpoppler-glib4{a}
libpostproc51{a}
libpython2.6{a}
libraptor1{a}
librasqal2{a}
librdf0{a}
librpm1{a}
librpmio1{a}
libschroedinger-1.0-0{a}
libseed0{a}
libslv2-9{a}
libsoundtouch1c2{a}
libspectre1{a}
libswscale0{a}
libsysfs2{a}
libt1-5{a}
libtidy-0.99-0{a}
libts-0.0-0{a}
libvpx0{a}
libwildmidi1{a}
libzbar0{a}
p7zip-full{a}
python-axiom{a}
python-beautifulsoup{a}
python-clientform{a}
python-coherence{a}
python-crypto{a}
python-epsilon{a}
python-feedparser{a}
python-gdata{a}
python-gdbm{a}
python-gst0.10{a}
python-gtksourceview2{a}
python-httplib2{a}
python-louie{a}
python-mechanize{a}
python-nevow{a}
python-openssl{a}
python-pam{a}
python-pkg-resources{a}
python-pyasn1{a}
python-pysqlite2{a}
python-rdflib{a}
python-serial{a}
python-tagpy{a}
python-twisted-bin{a}
python-twisted-conch{a}
python-twisted-core{a}
python-twisted-web{a}
python-utidylib{a}
python-xdg{a}
python-zope.interface{a}
rpm2cpio{a}
rpm-common{a}
totem{a}
totem-coherence{a}
totem-common{a}
totem-plugins{a}
tsconf{a}






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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Schneider
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:19:11 -0200
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh  wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Both /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab show entries for /dev/md126..
> > 
> > What the ... ?
> 
> After you modified thei files in the real filesystem, did you update
> the initramfs?
> 
Hi, Henrique

I have not modified any files a yet. I never got to the mdadm
--assemble because of the   mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md
array.  ERROR!

The curious question that exists is "why were md125,md126, created
when I tried to build the /dev/md2 array. The only difference is the
versions of mdadm used 3 years ago and ~10 days ago

TIA

Jack 


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Failed to fetch file ...

2011-01-18 Thread Albretch Mueller
~
 I included some more files in order to be able to install wireshark
in my local repository, then removed the previous Packages.gz file and
run again
~
 dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz
~
 My local source list is just one line:
~
root@Microknoppix:~/ri# cat "/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/local00_sources.list"
# local files
deb file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc i386/
~
 then I run update:
~
root@Microknoppix:~/ri# apt-get update -o
Dir::Etc::SourceList="/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/local00_sources.list"
Ign file: i386/ Release.gpg
Ign file: i386/ Release
Ign file: i386/ Packages
Ign file: i386/ Packages
Reading package lists... Done
~
 but when I try to install kate:
~
root@Microknoppix:~/ri# apt-get install -V -y --force-yes -o
Dir::Etc::SourceList="/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/local00_sources.list" kate
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
   kdelibs-data (3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3)
   kdelibs4c2a (3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3)
   kregexpeditor (3.5.9-2)
   libakode2 (2.0.2-3)
   libarts1-akode (3.5.9-2)
   libarts1c2a (1.5.9-2)
   libartsc0 (1.5.9-2)
   libavahi-qt3-1 (0.6.23-3lenny1)
   libmad0 (0.15.1b-4)
   libqt3-mt (3.3.8b-5+b1)
Suggested packages:
   kate-plugins ()
   khelpcenter ()
   konsole ()
   fam ()
   perl-suid ()
   libqt3-mt-psql ()
   libqt3-mt-mysql ()
   libqt3-mt-odbc ()
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   kate (3.5.9.dfsg.1-6)
   kdelibs-data (3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3)
   kdelibs4c2a (3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3)
   kregexpeditor (3.5.9-2)
   libakode2 (2.0.2-3)
   libarts1-akode (3.5.9-2)
   libarts1c2a (1.5.9-2)
   libartsc0 (1.5.9-2)
   libavahi-qt3-1 (0.6.23-3lenny1)
   libmad0 (0.15.1b-4)
   libqt3-mt (3.3.8b-5+b1)
0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 282 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/25.0MB of archives.
After this operation, 97.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  libartsc0 libmad0 libqt3-mt libarts1c2a libavahi-qt3-1 kdelibs-data
kdelibs4c2a kate kregexpeditor libakode2 libarts1-akode
Err file: i386/ libartsc0 1.5.9-2
  File not found
Err file: i386/ libmad0 0.15.1b-4
  File not found
Err file: i386/ libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8b-5+b1
  File not found
Err file: i386/ libarts1c2a 1.5.9-2
  File not found
Err file: i386/ libavahi-qt3-1 0.6.23-3lenny1
  File not found
Err file: i386/ kdelibs-data 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3
  File not found
Err file: i386/ kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3
  File not found
Err file: i386/ kate 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6
  File not found
Err file: i386/ kregexpeditor 4:3.5.9-2
  File not found
Err file: i386/ libakode2 2.0.2-3
  File not found
Err file: i386/ libarts1-akode 4:3.5.9-2
  File not found
Failed to fetch
file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/libartsc0_1.5.9-2_i386.deb
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file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/libmad0_0.15.1b-4_i386.deb
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file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/libarts1c2a_1.5.9-2_i386.deb
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file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/libavahi-qt3-1_0.6.23-3lenny1_i386.deb
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file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/kdelibs-data_4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3_all.deb
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file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/kdelibs4c2a_4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny3_i386.deb
 File not found
Failed to fetch
file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/kate_4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6_i386.deb
 File not found
Failed to fetch
file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/kregexpeditor_4:3.5.9-2_i386.deb
 File not found
Failed to fetch
file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/libakode2_2.0.2-3_i386.deb
 File not found
Failed to fetch
file:/mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc//mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/libarts1-akode_4:3.5.9-2_i386.deb
 File not found
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with
--fix-missing?
~
 I had been using the same local repository and procedures and all
those files are definitely located at  /mnt/sdb12/Lkl/deb/arc/i386/
~
 as you can see the directories where the files should be found is
doubled. I have tried to troubleshoot these problems to no avail. I
thought it somehow relate to some files escaping semicolons (":") as
("%3a")
~
 What is going on here? Is there a way for me to get more info about
what is happening? How can I fix these problems?
~
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Re: Evolution 2.30 (squeeze) with exchange

2011-01-18 Thread Erwan David
Le Tue 18/01/2011, deloptes disait
> 
> Is someone (already) using Evolution 2.30 with squeeze with exchange server.
> If yes for how long and what is your impression. Can it be considered to be
> stable? Any data losses?
> 
> What would be your advise to use? Which version of Evolution works best with
> exchange?
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> regards

You should also ask which version of exchange, and with which connectoe (mapi, 
webdav, webservices ?) It may completely change the result depending on the 
exact exchange configuration

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Re: OpenSSH key based authorisation problem

2011-01-18 Thread Adrian Levi
On 19 January 2011 02:37, Rob Owens  wrote:
> Any time I've ever had trouble with key based authentication, it was
> because of improper permissions on my .ssh folder.  It should be set:
>
> chmod 700 ~/.ssh
>
> I'd double-check that before going any further.

I checked that but didn't spot anything wrong with it compared to my
.ssh folder.
carolyn@jupiter:~$ ls -la .ssh/
total 24
drwx-- 2 carolyn carolyn 4096 Jan 19 06:06 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 carolyn carolyn 4096 Jan 18 21:57 ..
-rw--- 1 carolyn carolyn  397 Jan 19 06:07 authorized_keys
-rw--- 1 carolyn carolyn 1679 Jan 18 21:26 id_rsa
-rw-r--r-- 1 carolyn carolyn  397 Jan 18 21:26 id_rsa.pub
-rw-r--r-- 1 carolyn carolyn  442 Jan 18 21:54 known_hosts
carolyn@jupiter:~$

adrian@jupiter:~$ ls -la .ssh/
total 24
drwx--  2 adrian adrian 4096 Aug  6 09:29 .
drwxr-xr-x 15 adrian adrian 4096 Jan 18 20:48 ..
-rw---  1 adrian adrian 1140 Aug 11 11:00 authorized_keys
-rw---  1 adrian adrian 3243 Aug 11 10:46 id_rsa
-rw-r--r--  1 adrian adrian  739 Aug 11 10:46 id_rsa.pub
-rw-r--r--  1 adrian adrian 2830 Jan 18 19:20 known_hosts
adrian@jupiter:~$


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Re: OpenSSH key based authorisation problem

2011-01-18 Thread Adrian Levi
On 19 January 2011 05:06, Rob Owens  wrote:

> That is the default location for authorized_keys, but it can be changed
> in sshd_config with the AuthorizedKeysFile parameter.  Better check and
> make sure somebody didn't alter it from the default.

'Somebody' ~me? :)
This exact config file works perfectly on another host same OpenSSH
version, and my account works properly.
I have tried to create 2 new users post squeeze upgrade but neither
work as they should.

###Begin conf file
# Package generated configuration file
# See the sshd(8) manpage for details

# What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for
Port 22
# Use these options to restrict which interfaces/protocols sshd will bind to
#ListenAddress ::
#ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
Protocol 2
# HostKeys for protocol version 2
HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
#Privilege Separation is turned on for security
UsePrivilegeSeparation yes

# Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key
KeyRegenerationInterval 3600
ServerKeyBits 768

# Logging
SyslogFacility AUTH
LogLevel INFO

# Authentication:
LoginGraceTime 120
PermitRootLogin yes
StrictModes yes

RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes
#AuthorizedKeysFile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys

# Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files
IgnoreRhosts yes
# For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts
RhostsRSAAuthentication no
# similar for protocol version 2
HostbasedAuthentication no
# Uncomment if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for RhostsRSAAuthentication
#IgnoreUserKnownHosts yes

# To enable empty passwords, change to yes (NOT RECOMMENDED)
PermitEmptyPasswords no

# Change to yes to enable challenge-response passwords (beware issues with
# some PAM modules and threads)
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no

# Change to no to disable tunnelled clear text passwords
PasswordAuthentication no

# Kerberos options
#KerberosAuthentication no
#KerberosGetAFSToken no
#KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes
#KerberosTicketCleanup yes

# GSSAPI options
#GSSAPIAuthentication no
#GSSAPICleanupCredentials yes

X11Forwarding yes
X11DisplayOffset 10
PrintMotd no
PrintLastLog yes
TCPKeepAlive yes
#UseLogin no

#MaxStartups 10:30:60
#Banner /etc/issue.net

# Allow client to pass locale environment variables
AcceptEnv LANG LC_*

Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server

UsePAM yes
#End conf file#

Adrian

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Re: Evolution 2.30 (squeeze) with exchange

2011-01-18 Thread deloptes
Erwan David wrote:


> 
> You should also ask which version of exchange, and with which connectoe
> (mapi, webdav, webservices ?) It may completely change the result
> depending on the exact exchange configuration
> 

thanks you are right ... I need to ask those questions myself too :-)

But any input for the beginning is appreciated.

regards


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Re: Netgear WG111 USB wifi adapter works with squeeze / gnome

2011-01-18 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:10:07 -0800
Peter Tenenbaum  wrote:

> I recently had to add wifi to my squeeze / gnome desktop.  Based on some
> reviews I bought a Netgear WG111 USB wifi adapter, and I found that when I
> plugged it into a USB port on my desktop it worked instantly -- no
> configuration or package installation necessary.
> 
> Is there a repository where these sorts of success stories are tracked?

A bit late, but FTR:

http://linux-wless.passys.nl/> 

A great resource.

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[OT] Re: Evolution 2.30 (squeeze) with exchange

2011-01-18 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On the 18/01/2011 18:13, deloptes wrote:
> 
> Is someone (already) using Evolution 2.30 with squeeze with exchange server.
> If yes for how long and what is your impression. Can it be considered to be
> stable? Any data losses?
> 
> What would be your advise to use? Which version of Evolution works best with
> exchange?
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> regards
> 
> 
> 
Hello, (tagging OT because it isn't Debian)

my wife has to cope with Exchange as a groupware at work, no matter
what email client or system she uses I set up davmail in between and had
no problem with it using imap, ldap (with "multi-ldap" extension in
Icedove), Caldav (with iceowl (lightning) + Icedove (Thunderbird)).
Carddav works with "SOGo connector" extension in icedove, never tried in
Evolution. It's java and sucks up ±80MB just sitting there, but it does
the job.
davmail is not packaged in Debian AFAIK, but it's gpl and deb's are
provided on the website, it's actively updated and works with Exchange
≤2003, 2007 and 2010 and for the last two a new back-end "EWS" works
even without webdav (apparently webdav has been dropped from 2010).

http://davmail.sourceforge.net/

Hope it helps.


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Re: ktorrent in sid TCP_DENIED/407

2011-01-18 Thread deloptes
godo wrote:

>>
> First thing I will check with some other proxies.
> Do you need log in (username, password) to your proxy?
> Can you try without proxy?
> 
> Try to download Fedora Linux with KTorrent, there is always high speed.
> 
> Can you check ports?
> Is in network interface correct in KTorrent settings?
> 

Thanks. The problem is that I hardly get to the person from where I have the
account. Yes, it is with user and pass and ktorrent in kde4 seems to be
buggy. I configured it to use the proxy settings from kde ( konqueror asks
me for the password, but it seems the torrent is not using the credentials.
I just managed to get a snip of the log today. Where should I look into to
solve it. 

thanks in advance
regards

==> /var/log/squid/access.log <==

XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX TCP_DENIED/407 1813 GET
http://tracker.xx.net/announce.php? - NONE/- text/html


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Re: [OT] Re: Evolution 2.30 (squeeze) with exchange

2011-01-18 Thread Erwan David
On 18/01/11 22:22, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> On the 18/01/2011 18:13, deloptes wrote:
>>
>> Is someone (already) using Evolution 2.30 with squeeze with exchange server.
>> If yes for how long and what is your impression. Can it be considered to be
>> stable? Any data losses?
>>
>> What would be your advise to use? Which version of Evolution works best with
>> exchange?
>>
>> thanks in advance
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>>
> Hello, (tagging OT because it isn't Debian)
> 
> my wife has to cope with Exchange as a groupware at work, no matter
> what email client or system she uses I set up davmail in between and had
> no problem with it using imap, ldap (with "multi-ldap" extension in
> Icedove), Caldav (with iceowl (lightning) + Icedove (Thunderbird)).
> Carddav works with "SOGo connector" extension in icedove, never tried in
> Evolution. It's java and sucks up ±80MB just sitting there, but it does
> the job.
> davmail is not packaged in Debian AFAIK, but it's gpl and deb's are
> provided on the website, it's actively updated and works with Exchange
> ≤2003, 2007 and 2010 and for the last two a new back-end "EWS" works
> even without webdav (apparently webdav has been dropped from 2010).
> 
> http://davmail.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Hope it helps.
> 
> 

Hi,

I also need to connect to an exchange at work...

I'll try the latest davmail, now I use icedove in Imap (activated on
exchange), plus the exchange data provider for lightning
(http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home)
which is extremely slow, but working (full XUL implementation, that may
explain the slowness)

I get the global address list through LDAP, but a more integrated
solution would be interesting.


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Re: OpenSSH key based authorisation problem

2011-01-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 06:06:56AM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote:
> On 19 January 2011 02:37, Rob Owens  wrote:
> > Any time I've ever had trouble with key based authentication, it was
> > because of improper permissions on my .ssh folder.  It should be set:
> >
> > chmod 700 ~/.ssh
> >
> > I'd double-check that before going any further.
> 
> I checked that but didn't spot anything wrong with it compared to my
> .ssh folder.
> carolyn@jupiter:~$ ls -la .ssh/
> total 24
> drwx-- 2 carolyn carolyn 4096 Jan 19 06:06 .
> drwxr-xr-x 4 carolyn carolyn 4096 Jan 18 21:57 ..
> -rw--- 1 carolyn carolyn  397 Jan 19 06:07 authorized_keys
> -rw--- 1 carolyn carolyn 1679 Jan 18 21:26 id_rsa
> -rw-r--r-- 1 carolyn carolyn  397 Jan 18 21:26 id_rsa.pub
> -rw-r--r-- 1 carolyn carolyn  442 Jan 18 21:54 known_hosts
> carolyn@jupiter:~$
> 
> adrian@jupiter:~$ ls -la .ssh/
> total 24
> drwx--  2 adrian adrian 4096 Aug  6 09:29 .
> drwxr-xr-x 15 adrian adrian 4096 Jan 18 20:48 ..
> -rw---  1 adrian adrian 1140 Aug 11 11:00 authorized_keys
> -rw---  1 adrian adrian 3243 Aug 11 10:46 id_rsa
> -rw-r--r--  1 adrian adrian  739 Aug 11 10:46 id_rsa.pub
> -rw-r--r--  1 adrian adrian 2830 Jan 18 19:20 known_hosts
> adrian@jupiter:~$
> 
I was going to tell you that .ssh should not be world readable, but I
just tested it and it works fine like that.  (I guess that changed
sometime since I first set up ssh on my machine).

Can you post the authorized_keys file?  Remember that those are all
public keys in there, so it's not sensitive (unless it contains an email
address that you want to keep private).  I'm wondering if there is a 
problem with that file.

-Rob


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Re: OpenSSH key based authorisation problem

2011-01-18 Thread Adrian Levi
On 19 January 2011 07:35, Rob Owens  wrote:
> I was going to tell you that .ssh should not be world readable, but I
> just tested it and it works fine like that.  (I guess that changed
> sometime since I first set up ssh on my machine).
>
> Can you post the authorized_keys file?  Remember that those are all
> public keys in there, so it's not sensitive (unless it contains an email
> address that you want to keep private).  I'm wondering if there is a
> problem with that file.

I was getting cranky with it, so I rebooted the machine and the
problem went away :-)

I don't know why or how, but it is so.

authorized_kays file had only the id_rsa.pub key in it, only 1 key,
nothing else.
At least it's fixed now.

Adrian

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Re: KDE4 and other WM: user-specific avoiding of plasma-autostart?

2011-01-18 Thread Carl Johnson
Johannes Graumann  writes:

> Hi,
>
> This is an u to date Debian testing installation.
>
> I'm running kde4 through awesome (having set the KDEWM environment 
> variable). To prevent plasma to start in this environment, I have renamed 
> both plasma-desktop.desktop and plasma-netbook.desktop, yet I do not like 
> this setup, as it is system-wide and not user-specific.
>
> Where in Debian might I prevent plasma's autostart in a user-specific 
> manner?

I just noticed a checkbox for plasma-desktop in system settings for
KDE4.  It is in the top of the section at:

  Advanced User Settings -> Autostart

Just try unchecking it and see if it does what you want.  I think you
will have to restart KDE for it to take effect.

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Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 06:36:57PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> > Yes, I care about it.  I usually run Debian for headless systems that
> > don't use X or a DE, but when I'm using a GUI on Debian, and need to use
> > a Gnome program, there's much more sense to it requiring and installing
> > the bare minimum of what it needs than installing a lot of bloat.  Isn't
> > the "Debian way" more about allowing customization and forcing as little
> > as possible on the users or sys-admins?
> 
> 
> I would like to stick up for Debian here. 
> 
> Debian is a distribution that tends to split packages a lot (and I mean 
> *a lot*) which I really think _is a good practice_ because it gives both, 
> plain users (by means of metapackages) and admins (by cherry picking just 
> the needed packages) the full control on their systems.

Hmmm, I've got postgreSQL running on this machine. I have never
installed mysql, and in fact don't want it, and yet:

root@fischer:~# apt-cache policy mysql-common
mysql-common:
  Installed: 5.0.51a-24+lenny5
  Candidate: 5.0.51a-24+lenny5
  Version table:
 5.1.49-3~bpo50+1 0
200 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages
 *** 5.0.51a-24+lenny5 0
500 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 5.0.51a-24+lenny4 0
500 http://debian.attica.net.nz lenny/main Packages

root@fischer:~# dpkg --purge mysql-common
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of mysql-common:
 libmysqlclient15off depends on mysql-common (>= 5.0.51a-24+lenny5).
dpkg: error processing mysql-common (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
Errors were encountered while processing:
 mysql-common
root@fischer:~# dpkg --purge libmysqlclient15off
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libmysqlclient15off:
 libaprutil1 depends on libmysqlclient15off (>> 5.0.51a).
dpkg: error processing libmysqlclient15off (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libmysqlclient15off
root@fischer:~# dpkg --purge libaprutil1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libaprutil1:
 apache2.2-common depends on libaprutil1.
 apache2-mpm-worker depends on libaprutil1.
 libapache2-request-perl depends on libaprutil1; however:
  Package libaprutil1 is to be removed.
 apache2-utils depends on libaprutil1.
 libapache2-mod-perl2 depends on libaprutil1; however:
  Package libaprutil1 is to be removed.
 libapreq2 depends on libaprutil1.
 libapache2-mod-apreq2 depends on libaprutil1.
dpkg: error processing libaprutil1 (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libaprutil1


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Re: How to make an upgraded system clean by automatically removing abandoned config files?

2011-01-18 Thread Freeman
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 06:49:12PM -0500, Andrew Engelbrecht wrote:
> 
> > Selective use of the "cruft" program will help you clean up an existing 
> > system.  It compares the list of normal files and conffiles for installed 
> > packages against the file system and reports extras--cruft.
> 
> The concept fits the bill. :) Unfortunately, I tried it out and there
> were too many files listed. (~13k). I don't know enough about a healthy
> GNU/Linux environment to pass judgment on virtually any of them without
> doing research on each. (I did notice some very important files that I
> wouldn't want to delete, and that were marked as "unexplained", a
> category that marked over 99.9% of the packages.)
> 
> Thanks for the tip though. :)
> -Drew
> 

There is a script, courtesy of Mike Bird,

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/01/msg00534.html

I am not qualified to critique it but I have used it a little. One followup
suggest a patch.

Here is the list of obsolete conffiles it gave me. 

Clear false psitives right off are the clamav-freshclam conffile in
logrotate and the gnome-power-manager autostart entry.  So extensive
validation and backups required:

| 6.0   clamav-freshclam   0.96.5+dfsg-1~volatile1  
/etc/logrotate.d/clamav-freshclam
| 6.0   dhcp3-client   4.1.1-P1-9   /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/debug
| 6.0   dhcp3-client   4.1.1-P1-9   /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
| 6.0   dhcp3-client   4.1.1-P1-9   /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/debug
| 6.0   dhcp3-client   4.1.1-P1-9   
/etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/rfc3442-classless-routes
| 6.0   dhcp3-server   4.1.1-P1-9   /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server
| 6.0   dhcp3-server   4.1.1-P1-9 /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
| 6.0   gnome-power-manager   2.32.0-2  
/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-power-manager.desktop
| 6.0   gsfonts   1:8.11+urwcyr1.0.7~pre44-4.2  //etc/defoma/hints/gsfonts.hints
| 6.0   jackd   5   /etc/bash_completion.d/jackd
| 6.0   live-helper   2.0.11-1   /etc/cron.daily/live-helper
| 6.0   live-helper   2.0.11-1   /etc/default/live-helper
| 6.0   live-helper   2.0.11-1   /etc/default/live-helper_autobuild
| 6.0   live-helper   2.0.11-1   /etc/logrotate.d/live-helper
| 6.0   mc   3:4.7.0.9-1   /etc/mc/extfs/sfs.ini
| 6.0   mc   3:4.7.0.9-1   /etc/mc/extfs/extfs.ini
| 6.0   mozilla-plugin-gnash   0.8.8-5   /etc/gnashpluginrc
| 6.0   opera   11.00.1156   /etc/operaprefs_default.ini
| 6.0   opera   11.00.1156   /etc/operaprefs_fixed.ini
| 6.0   system-tools-backends   2.10.1-2
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/system-tools-backends.conf
| 6.0   tex-common   2.08   /etc/texmf/language.d/00tex.cnf
| 6.0   texlive-base   2009-11   /etc/texmf/language.d/09texlive-base.cnf
| 6.0   texlive-latex-base   2009-11/etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/hyperref.cfg
| 6.0   tracker   0.8.17-1   /etc/sysctl.d/30-tracker.conf
| 6.0   xpdf-common   3.02-9   /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc-cyrillic
| 6.0   xpdf-common   3.02-9   /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc-hebrew
| 6.0   xpdf-common   3.02-9   /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc-latin2
| 6.0   xpdf-common   3.02-9   /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc-greek
| 6.0   xpdf-common   3.02-9   /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc-thai
| 6.0   xpdf-common   3.02-9   /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc-arabic
| 6.0   xpdf-common   3.02-9   /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc-turkish

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Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote:
> Hmmm, I've got postgreSQL running on this machine. I have never
> installed mysql, and in fact don't want it, and yet:
> ...
>  libaprutil1 depends on libmysqlclient15off (>> 5.0.51a).

This has been fixed for Squeeze circa May 2009.

See:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481976

Lenny:
  apt-cache show libaprutil1 | grep Depends:
  Depends: libapr1, libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libdb4.6, libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), 
libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7), libmysqlclient15off (>> 5.0.51a), libpq5 (>= 
8.3~beta1), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.5.9), libuuid1 (>= 1.05)

Squeeze:
  apt-cache show libaprutil1 | grep Depends:
  Depends: libapr1 (>= 1.2.7), libc6 (>= 2.4), libdb4.8, libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), 
libuuid1 (>= 2.16)

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Re: [OT] Re: Evolution 2.30 (squeeze) with exchange

2011-01-18 Thread Javier Vasquez
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Erwan David  wrote:
> On 18/01/11 22:22, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> On the 18/01/2011 18:13, deloptes wrote:
>>> ...
>> ...
> ...
> now I use icedove in Imap (activated on
> exchange), plus the exchange data provider for lightning
> (http://gitorious.org/lightning-exchange-provider/pages/Home)
> which is extremely slow, but working (full XUL implementation, that may
> explain the slowness)
>
> I get the global address list through LDAP, but a more integrated
> solution would be interesting.
>

Hmm, I've tried lighning-exchange-provider with icedove
unsuccessfully.  Though I use unstable, which for now has the same
sqeeze version.  It does seem to connect correctly, but the calendar
never shows up, which is the major feature I expect from it.  For
e-mail I just keep using Imap, though I would change if the
exchange-provider would help.  And it doesn't help with address-book,
ldpa is still required.

So I'm not sure if you got luckier, or I did somehting wrong, but it
is just a plugin that should work out of the box, there's no much to
play around with, except connecting to the exchange server which
requires some info...

Any ways, just to provide my experience exchange-provider now that it
was mentioned, :-)

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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!

2011-01-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Jack Schneider wrote:
> It booted to the correct grub menu then to Busy Box. I am thinking it
> goes to BB because it can't find /var and or /usr on the md1/sda5 LVM
> partition.

Very likely.

> I checked /proc/mdstat and lo & behold there was md1:active
> with correct partitions and md0: active also correct partitions...

That is good news to hear.  Becuase it should mean that all of your
data is okay on those disks.  That is always a comfort to know.

> So here I sit with a root prompt from Busy Box I checked mdadm
> --examine for all known partitions and mdadm --detail /mdo & /md1
> and all seems normal and correct.  No Errors.

Yeah!  :-)

> Both /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab show entries for /dev/md126..
> What the ... ?

That does seem strange.  Could the tool you used previously have
edited that file?

You said you were using /dev/md1 as an lvm volume for /var, /home,
swap and other.  As I read this it means you would only have /dev/md0
for /boot in your /etc/fstab.  Right?  Something like this from my
system:

  /dev/md0/boot  ext2defaults0   2

You /var, /home and swap would use the lvm, right?  So from my system
I have the following:

  /dev/mapper/v1-var  /var   ext3defaults0   2
  /dev/mapper/v1-home /home  ext3defaults0   2

Those don't mention /dev/md1 (which showed up for you as /dev/md126)
at all.  They would only show up in the volume group display.

If you are seeing /dev/md126 in /etc/fstab then it is conflicting
information.  You will have to sort out the information conflict.  Do
you really have LVM in there?

Certainly if the "/dev/md0 /boot" boot line is incorrect then you
should correct it.  Edit the file and fix it.  If your filesystem is
mounted read-only at that point you will need to remount it
read-write.

  mount -n -o remount,rw /

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Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:53:34PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Hmmm, I've got postgreSQL running on this machine. I have never
> > installed mysql, and in fact don't want it, and yet:
> > ...
> >  libaprutil1 depends on libmysqlclient15off (>> 5.0.51a).
> 
> This has been fixed for Squeeze circa May 2009.
> 
> See:
>   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481976

Ohhh, excellent!

Be interesting if there is in fact a saving in disk space on a Lenny ->
Squeeze upgrade.

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Re (8): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-18 Thread peasthope
From:   Bob Proulx 
Date:   Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:52:08 -0700
> Only my dynamic client has a remote set. 

??  
We are on the same frequency here.  The dynamic-ip system 
has a remote parameter pointing to the static-ip system.  The 
static-ip system lacks the remote parameter ... unless I revert 
to my old dependance upon a DDNS server, ... which had failed.

Me previously,
> > If OpenVPN restarts in the system with the static address, then the
> > tunnel will be broken;

From:   Bob Proulx 
Date:   Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:52:08 -0700
> Yes.  But the tunnel will start when the client connects.  If you
> restart the server then the client will detect this and connect.

>From what you have said I'll infer that your dynamic-ip system 
is what people call a "road warrior".  Usually a laptop which the 
user takes on a field trip.  It connects for a session with the user 
present.

My situation is different.  The dynamic-ip system Joule remains at 
my residence running 24/7.  It is unattended when I am in the city 
at work.  If the tunnel on the static-ip Dalton is restarted, I prefer  
that Joule reconciles and the tunnel is open again within a few 
minutes.

> I use keepalive 20 120 on my server.  This is the same as specifying
> all of four different ping parameters.

Nice.  Thanks.  I'll use it.

> Same as:
>   ping 20
>   ping-restart 120
>   push "ping 20"
>   push "ping-restart 120"

I'll guess that ping-restart listens for a signal but doesn't emit one.  
The purpose in the static-ip system emitting pings and the dynamic-ip 
doing "ping-restart 120" is obvious.  Why is the converse needed?  When 
none of your road warriors are on-line the static-ip "server" will be 
restarting 
openvpn every 120 s.  Why?

Incidentally, does your "server" really have "mode server" or just a 
collection of "mode p2p" tunnels?

> Because this exists on the server then the 'push' actions will push
> those to the client and configure the client.  I like to keep that
> configuration all in one place on the server and have it take effect
> globally for all clients.

Thanks for the discussion.  My configurations are improving gradually.

Regards, ... Peter E.

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Re (2): message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-18 Thread peasthope
From:   Bob Proulx 
Date:   Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:59:42 -0700
> You have a complicated setup!

A complex setup.  "complicated" is a verb.  ... Sorry.

It's simplifying slowly and surely.  One helpful detail is to 
route to a LAN rather than to individual machines.
route 172.23.0.0 255.255.0.0
rather than
# Curie
route 172.23.4.2
# Heaviside
route 172.23.5.2

From:   Bob Proulx 
Date:   Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:53:04 -0700
> But since you have routes to public IP space there perhaps you would
> want to route all of your traffic over the vpn (once you have it
> working) and then you wouldn't need specific routes for everything.

Dalton has a relatively fast connection to the 'net 
provided by the university.  Joule at home has a 
relatively slow connection to the net through shaw.ca.  
Are you suggesting that all of dalton's 'net traffic 
go through the tunnel and Joule?  Are you suggesting 
that all of joule's 'net traffic go through the tunnel 
and dalton?  Aren't both significantly disadvantageous? 

> Standard email headers apply.  RFC 2822 would cover them. 

Certainly, but how many new Debian users will find RFC 2822, study 
it and perceive how threading works when subscribing to debian-user?  
I might try adding a brief note about threading in 
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/MailingLists and I wonder how many 
new users will find that.

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Re: external drive enclosures / esata / port multipliers?

2011-01-18 Thread Monte Milanuk
Okay... since this is not something I can go to the local office supply 
store (around here its either that or mail order) and pick up and look 
at it and see that tab A goes in slot B (i.e. how things physically 
fit/work together)... how exactly would I set this up, and what would I 
need?


Lets say that I want to go with a four-bay enclosure as mentioned 
before.  Something like this is what I had been looking at:



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132029
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145298

4-bay enclosure w/ eSATA card + cable:  $130
Hitachi 2TB SATA HDD ($120x4):  $480

Grand total:$610

vs...

http://www.pc-pitstop.com/sas_cables_enclosures/sas4bay.asp

Then I would need a SAS HBA card like this:

http://www.pc-pitstop.com/sas_hba/arc-1300-4x.asp


Plus a cable like this:

http://www.pc-pitstop.com/sas_cables_adapters/-1M.asp

Which if I get it all 'bundled' from that place, prices out like this:

4-bay enclosure:$279
Areca 1300x4 card + cable:  $197
Hitachi 2TB SATAII HDD ($130x4):$520

Grand total:$996




Is it really 50% mo betta?  If so, is the SAS setup I listed a good, 
basic choice?  I'd rather this stuff last a long, long time if possible.


TIA,

Monte


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Re: Re (8): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-18 Thread Bob Proulx
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> > Only my dynamic client has a remote set. 
> 
> ??  
> We are on the same frequency here.  The dynamic-ip system 
> has a remote parameter pointing to the static-ip system.  The 
> static-ip system lacks the remote parameter ... unless I revert 
> to my old dependance upon a DDNS server, ... which had failed.

I was mostly just confirming that you don't need remote on both ends.
You only need remote on one side to initiate the connection.  The
dynamic ip host can be the only one with a remote set and then it will
be the only one to initiate the connection.

The server is happy to wait for clients to connect.  Without a remote
option set the server won't initiate a connection but will respond to
clients who connect.

Also the remote tells the daemon to filter packets to only those from
the specified address.  Filtering to a specific address isn't going to
be compatible with a client that changes addresses.  (Openvpn, if
--resolv-retry is specified, resolves the hostname every time it tries
to connect specifically to allow use of dynamic address clients.)

> > Yes.  But the tunnel will start when the client connects.  If you
> > restart the server then the client will detect this and connect.
> 
> From what you have said I'll infer that your dynamic-ip system 
> is what people call a "road warrior".  Usually a laptop which the 
> user takes on a field trip.  It connects for a session with the user 
> present.

In addition to my "road warrior" laptop I also use an almost identical
configuration on several other client systems that all exist on dynamic
IP addresses on various networks behind NAT firewalls.  All have an
almost identical client configuration.  It isn't just for road warrior
laptops.

> My situation is different.  The dynamic-ip system Joule remains at 
> my residence running 24/7.  It is unattended when I am in the city 
> at work.  If the tunnel on the static-ip Dalton is restarted, I prefer  
> that Joule reconciles and the tunnel is open again within a few 
> minutes.

That is exactly the same situation I am in.  No difference that I can
tell.  I don't think we are in a different case.  (Except I don't
commute to the city. :-)

Why do you think that Joule won't try to reconnect?  You don't
actually say that it won't but you do imply that it won't unless you
do something special.

> > I use keepalive 20 120 on my server.  This is the same as specifying
> > all of four different ping parameters.
> 
> Nice.  Thanks.  I'll use it.
> 
> > Same as:
> >   ping 20
> >   ping-restart 120
> >   push "ping 20"
> >   push "ping-restart 120"
> 
> I'll guess that ping-restart listens for a signal but doesn't emit
> one.

Well, there isn't a need to guess.  It is documented in the manual.  I
will refrain from repeating it here.

> The purpose in the static-ip system emitting pings and the
> dynamic-ip doing "ping-restart 120" is obvious.  Why is the converse
> needed?  When none of your road warriors are on-line the static-ip
> "server" will be restarting openvpn every 120 s.  Why?

Primarily because that is what is recommended in the OpenVPN
documentation.  It seemed reasonable to me.  This way both sides will
detect and react to the connection going down.  I had no reason to go
against the documentation and didn't think about it too much further.

Secondly on the server the openvpn daemon isn't restarted.  It just
does internal cleanup on the client instance object.  That is
according to the documentation anyway.  I haven't actually looked at
the code to verify that but instead just read the documentation.

If the server doesn't detect that the client dropped offline then I
could see it causing problems when the client tries to establish a new
connection.  Without detecting this the server could be trying to
/continue/ a connection when the client wants to /start/ a
connection and I doubt those are compatible.  I haven't looked at the
code but it just seemed so reasonable to me that I don't expect
anything different.

But among other things restarting the client instance object on the
server would cause the it to re-resolve any names used by dynamic
clients.  This way if the name has changed addresses through a dynamic
dns server then the server will get the new address for the packet
filter.  (However I don't use "remote" on the server and so I
personally don't need it for that reason.  But others might.)  I could
also imagine it would trigger other hooks too.

> Incidentally, does your "server" really have "mode server"

It really has "mode server" in the form of the "server" directive such
as "server 10.8.0.0 255.255.255.0" which expands to a lot of
configuration code which is documented in the manual.

I prefer using the shorter:

  server 10.8.0.0 255.255.255.0

which expands to the following for my case:

  mode server
  tls-server
  ifconfig 10.8.0.1 10.8.0.2
  ifconfig-pool 10.8.0.4 10.8.0.251
  route 10.8.0.0 255.255.255.0
  push "route 10.8.0.1"

> or just a collectio

Re: Netgear WG111 USB wifi adapter works with squeeze / gnome

2011-01-18 Thread Chris Jones
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 03:23:49PM EST, Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:10:07 -0800
> Peter Tenenbaum  wrote:
> 
> > I recently had to add wifi to my squeeze / gnome desktop.  Based on some
> > reviews I bought a Netgear WG111 USB wifi adapter, and I found that when I
> > plugged it into a USB port on my desktop it worked instantly -- no
> > configuration or package installation necessary.
> > 
> > Is there a repository where these sorts of success stories are tracked?
> 
> A bit late, but FTR:
> 
> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/> 
> 
> A great resource.

A bit puzzled about the disclaimer, though:

‘This list doesn't specify anything about how much of your card is
supported. So a card that only works without encryption is listed the
same as one that also has support for WEP/WPA.’

Not sure I want to donate my bandwidth to any TDH that might sniff my
available presence the minute I cruise along in their neighborhood...

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Re: Re (2): message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-18 Thread Bob Proulx
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > You have a complicated setup!
> 
> A complex setup.  "complicated" is a verb.  ... Sorry.

Uhm...  No.  Complicated is an adjective.

 From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:

   complicated
   adj : difficult to analyze or understand; "a complicated problem";
 "complicated Middle East politics"

> It's simplifying slowly and surely.  One helpful detail is to 
> route to a LAN rather than to individual machines.
> route 172.23.0.0 255.255.0.0
> rather than
> # Curie
> route 172.23.4.2
> # Heaviside
> route 172.23.5.2

Yes.  Definitely yes.  Simpler is better.

> > But since you have routes to public IP space there perhaps you would
> > want to route all of your traffic over the vpn (once you have it
> > working) and then you wouldn't need specific routes for everything.
> 
> Dalton has a relatively fast connection to the 'net 
> provided by the university.  Joule at home has a 
> relatively slow connection to the net through shaw.ca.  
>
> Are you suggesting that all of dalton's 'net traffic 
> go through the tunnel and Joule?  Are you suggesting 
> that all of joule's 'net traffic go through the tunnel 
> and dalton?  Aren't both significantly disadvantageous? 

I am suggesting that you have such a complicated routing setup that it
is causing you difficulty and that you should simplify it by some
method.  You listed five (5!) route commands in your configuration.

>>> # Machines in the local home zone reached _via_ the tunnel.
>>> # Curie
>>> route 172.23.4.2
>>> # Heaviside
>>> route 172.23.5.2
>>> # Shaw mail servers _via_ the tunnel.
>>> # route shawmail.gv.shawcable.net
>>> route 64.59.128.135
>>> route 24.71.223.43
>>> # Shaw ftp server _via_ the tunnel.
>>> # route ftp.shaw.ca
>>> route 64.59.128.134

And you have been having such trouble with your vpn(s).  To me that is
like a house of cards.  A light breeze blows it over.  In order to be
more robust it needs to be simpler, less rigid, and more flexible.

> > Standard email headers apply.  RFC 2822 would cover them. 
> 
> Certainly, but how many new Debian users will find RFC 2822, study 
> it and perceive how threading works when subscribing to debian-user?  

But you asked the question!  :-) It isn't fair to ask a question, get
an answer, and then complain about it.  :-)  That is dirty dealing!

In response I will only say that most users will simply use an MUA
(mail user agent) and will simply use it (mutt, thunderbird, gmail,
whatever) to generate follow-ups.  It is the MUA's job to do the right
thing with respect to email headers.  Let's hope the author of the MUA
actually took the time to read the RFCs.

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Re: Re (2): message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 18 2011 20:12:47 Bob Proulx wrote:
> peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> > Are you suggesting that all of dalton's 'net traffic
> > go through the tunnel and Joule?  Are you suggesting
> > that all of joule's 'net traffic go through the tunnel
> > and dalton?  Aren't both significantly disadvantageous?
>
> I am suggesting that you have such a complicated routing setup that it
> is causing you difficulty and that you should simplify it by some
> method.  You listed five (5!) route commands in your configuration.

Once your routing gets that complexicational you might
want to consider using a routing deamon such as Quagga.

You could probably use OSPF over the tunnels but we
prefer to use private BGP, with each office and laptop
and customer office network a separate private AS.

BGP gives us better control of route propagation than
OSPF.  For example sysadmin laptops can communicate with
customer office networks for maintenance purposes but
customer office networks cannot see each other.

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2.2.9-10+lenny8 upgrade SSL not working after update

2011-01-18 Thread James Sasitorn
I am running Lenny, and upgrading from 2.2.9-10+lenny4 to 2.2.9-10+lenny8 and 
encountered an error with my SSL configuration in the update. My installation 
uses apache2 configuration files.. and this is the first time an upgrade has 
broken a working installation (with no obvious error message). 

My HTTP named virtual hosts work fine. The secure site works fine when SSL is 
disabled as well. So I figure there is some configuration file change in the 
newer version. I found a couple posts from about a year ago mentioning 
something similar, but I wasn't quite sure what the exact cause (since there 
are no error messages) is and how I would fix it. Below are some of the 
pertinent config files. Names and addresses changed...

/etc/apache2/ports.conf
--
NameVirtualHost 10.0.0.10:80
Listen 10.0.0.10:80
Listen localhost:80

Listen 10.0.0.20:443

--

/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/secure.site.com
-

   DocumentRoot /www/site.com
   ServerName secure.site.com
   SSLEngine on
   SSLCertificateFile /usr/lib/ssl/certs/secure.site.com.crt
   SSLCertificateKeyFile /usr/lib/ssl/private/secure.site.com.key
   BrowserMatch "MSIE [56]\." nokeepalive

   
  Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
  AllowOverride All
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all
   


-

Any ideas?

Thanks,
James

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Can't compile any project with headers from libavifile-0.7-dev_0.7.48. Headers in 0.7.47 is worked.

2011-01-18 Thread Сергей Степанов
Package: libavifile-0.7-dev
Version: 1:0.7.48~20090503.ds-2+b2
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

Hi


I can not compile any my project in Debian Squeeze with headers in package
libavifile-0.7-dev (0.7.48). But this project compile
normally in Debian Lenny with libavifile-0.7-dev (0.7.47).


C++ code:

-8<-

#include 
#include 

#if AVIFILE_MINOR_VERSION > 6
#include 
#else
#include 
#endif

#include 
#include 
#include 

#include 
#include 
#include 

...

StreamInfo *m_streaminfo; // Error in this string

-8<-


Error:

./Render/video/stVideoRenderAviLinux.h:81: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration
of ‘StreamInfo’ with no type
./Render/video/stVideoRenderAviLinux.h:81: error: expected ‘;’ before
‘*’ token


This error generate in g++-4.1, g++-4.3 and g++-4.4 compiler.


Solution:

Add typedef StreamInfo in namespace "avm" in tail of file
/usr/include/avifile-0.7/StreamInfo.h, as it
maked in 0.7.47 version.


Before correction:

-8<-

AVM_END_NAMESPACE;

#endif // AVIFILE_STREAMINFO_H

-8<-


After correction:

-8<-

AVM_END_NAMESPACE;

#ifdef AVM_COMPATIBLE
typedef avm::StreamInfo StreamInfo;
#endif

#endif // AVIFILE_STREAMINFO_H

-8<-



-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0
 APT prefers testing
 APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages libavifile-0.7-dev depends on:
ii  libavifile-0.7 1:0.7.48~20090503.ds-2+b2 shared libraries for AVI read/writ

libavifile-0.7-dev recommends no packages.

libavifile-0.7-dev suggests no packages.


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Re: ktorrent in sid TCP_DENIED/407

2011-01-18 Thread godo



Thanks. The problem is that I hardly get to the person from where I have the
account. Yes, it is with user and pass and ktorrent in kde4 seems to be
buggy. I configured it to use the proxy settings from kde ( konqueror asks
me for the password, but it seems the torrent is not using the credentials.
I just managed to get a snip of the log today. Where should I look into to
solve it.

thanks in advance
regards

==>  /var/log/squid/access.log<==

XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX TCP_DENIED/407 1813 GET
http://tracker.xx.net/announce.php? - NONE/- text/html


Maybe also KWallet bothering you. It was bothering me in the past with 
WiFi password protected connections so I turn him off.


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CAPS key is enabled

2011-01-18 Thread abdelkader belahcene
Hi,
On my laptop, running debian (same problem with ubuntu and al)
the CAPS key is enabled I can't disable it, to do it , I go to the text
screen, (ctrl+alt+F1), to disable it, after that I come back to the
graphical interface.
What is the problem ??

thanks a lot
best regards


Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-18 Thread Thomas Nguyen Van
Good evening, 



Our company needs to encrypt hard drives on our machines running under Linux 
Debian Lenny. 
Seagate proposes FDE solutions with Momentus 5400 and/or 7200 
(http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/fr-FR/whitepaper/mb595_2_momentus_fde_sed_ii_sq_kit.pdf)
 

This solution is very interesting because the password or the passphrase is not 
stored on the hard drive but in the BIOS in their case. So that a server can 
reboot without any human intervention. 

However, this solution only works under windows !! They don't plan to support 
under linux such a disk. :o( 
So my question is : could you suggest another FDE solution compliant with a 
Lenny distribution? 

Thanks in advance 









Thomas NGUYEN VAN