Re: routing

2010-10-29 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answers, Jesús - I really appreciate it:

> Two things:
> 1) Try without a firewall (iptables default rules 
> to "accept",  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to "1" and anything else).

Still the same:

Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination 19  2300 ACCEPT all  --  *  *
0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
0 0 ACCEPT tcp  --  lo *   0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0   tcp

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 20 packets, 1680 bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source
destination 26  1688 ACCEPT all  --  *  *
0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
0 0 ACCEPT all  --  *  *   0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0   state NEW

For /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward I tried numbers 1, 2, 3 - all w/ the
same effect - packets go to but do no return.

I see them going by ppp - to one direction only - just like it was w/
the previous iptables configuration.
 
> 2) Then if you can ping 20.20.20.20 from host1 *and* you can ping
> "the Internet" from host2 (say, `ping 152.46.7.81`, which is the IP
> for www.tldp.org, known to return ECHO packages) it's almost surely
> not a routing problem within host2.

I did ping for the IP - same effect - it works for host2 and does not
for host1.

If it be not routing problem, then what it can be?
Though I think it is - in the past times on another installation it did
work and I remember in the routing table was set as

Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
10.10.10.10 *   255.255.255.255 UH0
00 ppp0
localnet*   255.255.255.0   U
0  00 eth0
link-local  *   255.255.0.0
U 1000   00 eth0
default *
0.0.0.0 U 0  00 ppp0

But I do not understand what are the addresses "localnet" and
"link-local" .

> Now, my bet:
> Does whatever sit on the far end of your ppp link holding IP address 
> 10.10.10.10 know how to return packets to 192.168.0.0/24?

Sorry, I do not know. All I know about this is that host2 gets pings it
sends and host1 - does not.

I have tried
ftp 91.121.86.213
w/ the same effect.


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Re: procmail and Unicode header lines (RFC 2047)

2010-10-29 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:19:30 +0200, Stanisław Findeisen wrote:

> Is there any support in Debian for Unicode e-mail header lines
> processing, e.g. with procmail?
> 
> Those header lines look like this:
> 
> Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNEE7eiROJTUlViU4JSclLyVIGyhC?=
> 
> so they need to be decoded before doing anything useful with them. (See:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/ch-internet.en.html)

Mmm, procmail is a delivery agent, it does not render the messages. 

What e-mail client are you using for displaying e-mails? I have not 
problems with encoded subjects using rfc 2047, they seem to render just 
fine in Mutt.

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Re: routing

2010-10-29 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Sthu:

On Friday 29 October 2010 10:05:52 Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answers, Jesús - I really appreciate it:
> > Two things:
> > 1) Try without a firewall (iptables default rules
> > to "accept",  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to "1" and anything else).
>
> Still the same:

[...]

> For /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward I tried numbers 1, 2, 3 - all w/ the
> same effect - packets go to but do no return.

It's not a matter of blindlingly trying things just for the sake of it.  What 
did you expect trying "2" and "3" on that file?

> > 2) Then if you can ping 20.20.20.20 from host1 *and* you can ping
> > "the Internet" from host2 (say, `ping 152.46.7.81`, which is the IP
> > for www.tldp.org, known to return ECHO packages) it's almost surely
> > not a routing problem within host2.
>
> I did ping for the IP - same effect - it works for host2 and does not
> for host1.

Did I ask you to try 152.46.7.81 from host1?

> If it be not routing problem, then what it can be?

A different one.  We are trying to diagnose it.

> > Now, my bet:
> > Does whatever sit on the far end of your ppp link holding IP address
> > 10.10.10.10 know how to return packets to 192.168.0.0/24?
>
> Sorry, I do not know.

You'll need to know.  What does sit at 10.10.10.10?

Let's try again:
1) What are the exact iptables rules you are trying?
I'd suggest trying this and only this (just for testing; once it's working you 
can tie up them as needed):
/sbin/iptables -F
/sbin/iptables -t nat -F
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -F
 
/sbin/iptables -X
/sbin/iptables -t nat -X
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -X

/sbin/iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
/sbin/iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
/sbin/iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT

echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

Now, let's test it:
2) Can you ping 10.10.10.10 from host2?
3) Can you ping 152.46.7.81 from host2?
4) Can you ping 192.168.0.3 from host2?
5) Can you ping 192.168.0.1 from host1?
6) Can you ping 20.20.20.20 from host1?
7) Can you ping 152.46.7.81 from host1?
(remember these tests since it's what you need to diagnose your problem; you 
should try them after any change on your config).

Cheers.


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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 10/28/2010 11:25 AM:
> In <4cc91eef.5010...@hardwarefreak.com>, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> Camaleón put forth on 10/27/2010 1:05 PM:
>>> There
>>> are also "compatible" toner cartridges at lower prices, which I would
>>> also avoid :-)
>>
>> There is no reason to avoid these Camaleón.  They work just fine.  The
>> only difference is that ZERO of the profit goes to the printer manufacturer.
>>
>> One of the tenets of FOSS is a free or low cost alternative to
>> commercial software.
> 
> Free Software has *never* been about cost.

Not for the developers, but it certainly has been for many users of it.
 My comments related to the reasons users choose FOSS.  One of them
certainly is cost.  My analogy was that of "Why pay Microsoft $495 for
Office when Open Office is just as good for most users and is free".  By
that logic, why pay $75 for a Lexmark toner cartridge when you can get a
"compatible" cartridge for $28 that functions identically?

> I suggest against using toner or ink jet cartridges that are not certified by 
> the printer manufacturer since my experience has shown them to be inferior 
> products.  Most often, they over-saturate the page leading to streak, smears, 
> or even splotches and lower effective DPI.

Have you specifically noticed this with 3rd party toner cartridges, or
are your comments aimed at ink cartridges?  For a toner cartridge to
cause problems the drum would have to be defective, which does happen,
but rarely.  Copy machines have had these drums for 40 years.  The
technology is very well understand and pretty hard to screw up given the
simplicity of manufacturing one.  The toner itself used by the 3rd party
cartridge companies is identical to that used by laser printer OEMs and
copy machine manufacturers, so that isn't an issue.

I won't argue with anyone for one second that there are a lot of low
quality 3rd party ink cartridges on the market.  Manufacturing the
nozzles correctly is much more difficult than toner drums.  But that
isn't the subject of this thread.  The subject is toner refills.

> Refilled / recycled cartridges are a different story.  It depends on the 
> refill method, but they usually work just as well as new cartridges.

As do 3rd party toner cartridges, which ARE new cartridges.  Again,
they're simply slightly different in design to avoid patent issues and
to lower manufacturing costs.  In over 20 years I've run into maybe 2
that didn't work correctly, both due to manufacturing defects, one in
the cog drive (deformed teeth) and one with a bad drum, likely due to
the photo resist layer not being deposited correctly.  I've run into at
least that many OEM cartridges defective for the same reasons.

Everyone's mileage may obviously vary, but it seemed to me 3rd party
toner cartridges were getting an unfair rap in this thread, especially
given my experience with them, and knowing the technology (or lack
thereof actually) that goes into them.  They aren't difficult to make at
all, and the QC process is rather straight forward.

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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 10/28/2010 5:56 PM:

> But, but, but... cheap replacement manufacturers are pure of heart and
> only want the best for us!!!

> Gasp!!  The HP would get more profit!!!

Beware.  This is what you will get when you rebut Ron's statements,
proving some of his points incorrect, in a couple of threads in a row,
which I did in the past couple of weeks.  I was rebutting purported
facts, not Ron himself.  Apparently Ron didn't see it that way.

He realizes he'll look foolish if rebutting fact, so he simply attempts
childish behavior such as that above, taking your comments in an
unrelated thread out of context, putting them into a context of his
choosing, and then attempts to paint you or your position in an
untruthful light.  This tactic is expected of left wing political hacks
on sites like salon.com or moveon.org, but on debian user?  I thought we
deal in technical facts here.

I've still never figured out if Ron is this 50 something experienced and
nearly retired IT hand he claims to be, of if he's actually some 23 year
old living in his mom's basement as in the last Die Hard movie (although
he can't be nearly as cool as Kevin Smith).  The latter would explain
the lack of maturity, the former does not.

Should we take a poll?  Is Ron Johnson

A.  A 50 something 'ish IT veteran as he claims
B.  A 20 something tech geek living in mom's basement

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Re: Unable to mount Android phone w/ Lenny

2010-10-29 Thread gun_smoke
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:26:16PM -0400, gun_sm...@shellium.org wrote:
> When I plug my phone in with the data cable supplied it will not mount,
> and does not show up as a device. However, it will continue to charge the
> phone as expected. Looking at dmesg I see the following. On the phone it's
> self it detects the USB have been plugged in and I have the option to
> mount or not. Selecting mount does nothing on Lenny's end. 
> 
> usb 5-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
> hub 5-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2
> 
> I've looked at google for a while to see if anyone else was having a
> similar issue and didn't see anything related to either my device, Samsung
> Galaxy SGH-T959. 
> 
> Any ideas?

This mornings log reports show the following. 

 - Kernel Begin  

 
 WARNING:  Segmentation Faults in these executables
VirtualBox :  2 Time(s)
 
 WARNING:  Kernel Errors Present
[   15.336167] PM: Error -22 checking ima ...:  1 Time(s)
usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 ...:  4 Time(s)
usb 3-1: device not accepting address 4, error -71 ...:  1 Time(s)
usb 3-1: device not accepting address 5, error -71 ...:  1 Time(s)
usb 5-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 ...:  8 Time(s)
usb 5-1: device not accepting address 10, error -71 ...:  1 Time(s)
usb 5-1: device not accepting address 13, error -71 ...:  1 Time(s)
usb 5-1: device not accepting address 14, error -71 ...:  1 Time(s)
usb 5-1: device not accepting address 9, error -71 ...:  1 Time(s)
usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71 ...:  5 Time(s)
usb 5-2: device not accepting address 5, error -71 ...:  1 Time(s)
usb 5-2: device not accepting address 6, error -71 ...:  1 Time(s)
 
 -- Kernel End - 

I'm still looking. Hopefully today I'll be able to try a different machine
to rule the phone out as the problem.


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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread Chris Jackson
Stan Hoeppner wrote:

> ... This tactic is expected of left wing political hacks
> on sites like salon.com or moveon.org, but on debian user?  I thought we
> deal in technical facts here.
> 
> ...
> 
> Should we take a poll?  Is Ron Johnson
> 
> A.  A 50 something 'ish IT veteran as he claims
> B.  A 20 something tech geek living in mom's basement
> 
> :)


Pot, this is Kettle. Kettle, meet Pot.

Don't make me come back there, you two!

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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:50:50 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

>>> One of the tenets of FOSS is a free or low cost alternative to
>>> commercial software.
>> 
>> Free Software has *never* been about cost.
> 
> Not for the developers, but it certainly has been for many users of it.

I really hope "cost" is not the only thing users take as their own scale 
for going FLOSS. I would also expect "quality" word appears as one one of 
the most valuated items FLOSS software can provide.

>  My comments related to the reasons users choose FOSS.  One of them
> certainly is cost.  My analogy was that of "Why pay Microsoft $495 for
> Office when Open Office is just as good for most users and is free".  By
> that logic, why pay $75 for a Lexmark toner cartridge when you can get a
> "compatible" cartridge for $28 that functions identically?

That's a very wrong approach, IMO.

Here in Spain, MS is reaching agreements with schools and public 
institutions in order to provide almost at free of cost (just a symbolic 
fee) their products (Windows, MS Office...). And the agreement also 
includes staff training and tech support on their side. Turn-key 
solution. All included. No FLOSS company can compete nor provide that 
conditions.

Kids will learn how to use MS products and so all government workers. 

Do you still think in this case MS products are better becasue they cost 
"nothing"? I don't think so, unless you understimate your freedom :-(

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Re: s2ram

2010-10-29 Thread roberto
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Nick Lidakis  wrote:
>> Swap: 2GB
>
> What video card? Same thing happened to me when s2ram -f -p -m used to work
> but now freezes my machine. I now use s2ram -f -p -s and all is well with the
> world. This is on a desktop with Radeon X1300 PCI-E card.

my video card is
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250
[Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Flags: bus master, VGA palette snoop, stepping, 66MHz, medium
devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11

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Re: Slow write on raid0/mdadm with ext4

2010-10-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Jason Myers put forth on 10/29/2010 1:31 AM:
> Hi, whenever I start writing more than 100MB to the raid, it starts going
> 200KB/s and the iowait shown on "top" goes to 99%.. The disks lock up
> completely, shown on iostat. What would cause something like this?

More details would probably be helpful, particularly what hardware we're
talking about and what kernel version you're running.

1.  Mobo
2.  Disk controller/driver
3.  Make/model/size and number of disks in the md stripe set
4.  SMART data for each drive

etc.

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how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will
identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i can
pinpoint that can be removed.

  this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
assigned statically and another system is responsible for all DNS/DHCP
functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove the
dhcp-related packages.  that's just one example.

  any utilities that can help out in this regard?  thanks.

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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Kousik Maiti
You can you deborphan. You can get the unnecessary packages.


On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>
>  just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
> i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
> whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will
> identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i can
> pinpoint that can be removed.
>
>  this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
> assigned statically and another system is responsible for all DNS/DHCP
> functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove the
> dhcp-related packages.  that's just one example.
>
>  any utilities that can help out in this regard?  thanks.
>
> rday
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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:12:55 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

> just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that i've
> inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value whatever and
> that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will identify unused
> libraries but i'm curious about what else i can pinpoint that can be
> removed.
> 
>   this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
> assigned statically and another system is responsible for all DNS/DHCP
> functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove the dhcp-related
> packages.  that's just one example.

Not that fast :-)

You may have installed packages that are "unused" but "needed" as a 
dependency requirement of another packages that you want to keep.

If you are not facing space problems, I won't touch anything. What you 
could do instead is disabling services you are not using at all, that's  
what I use to do.

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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Camaleón put forth on 10/29/2010 5:29 AM:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:50:50 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

> I really hope "cost" is not the only thing users take as their own scale 
> for going FLOSS.

>>  My comments related to the reasons users choose FOSS.  _One of them_
>> certainly is cost.

Emphasis added to my previous statement above.  That doesn't say "the
only" or "the most important".  It says "One of them [reasons]".

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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Camaleón wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:12:55 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> > just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
> > i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
> > whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that
> > will identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i
> > can pinpoint that can be removed.
> >
> >   this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
> > assigned statically and another system is responsible for all
> > DNS/DHCP functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove
> > the dhcp-related packages.  that's just one example.
>
> Not that fast :-)

  screech!!! :-)

> You may have installed packages that are "unused" but "needed" as a
> dependency requirement of another packages that you want to keep.

  of course, but any attempt to remove that package would immediately
tell me about the dependency so that's not something that concerns me.

> If you are not facing space problems, I won't touch anything. What
> you could do instead is disabling services you are not using at all,
> that's what I use to do.

  oh, i understand all that and i'm working on that.  and i never
assumed this would be an easy thing to do.  as one other poster
suggested, i can start with "deborphan" and see where that takes me.
and over the next little while, i plan on manually checking the
installed packages and determining whether they have any value.

  i was just wondering if there was any cool utility that would scan a
system and based on god-knows-what, simply *suggest* packages that are
apparently unused.

  for instance, if a given shared library hasn't been linked in weeks
or months, that's something to look at.  if none of the binary
executables in a package have been executed in that long, another
package to examine, that sort of thing.

  anyway, i was just curious to see how easy it was to do something
like that.  thanks.

rday

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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 29. 10. 2010 12:29:03 je Camaleón napisal(a):


Here in Spain, MS is reaching agreements with schools and public
institutions in order to provide almost at free of cost (just a  
symbolic

fee) their products (Windows, MS Office...). And the agreement also
includes staff training and tech support on their side. Turn-key
solution. All included. No FLOSS company can compete nor provide that
conditions.

Kids will learn how to use MS products and so all government workers.



Not only in Spain, I'm afraid. Capitalism at its best.

Can't *anything* be done about it? I mean, the pushers have even  
managed to circumvent the bidding rules that generally bind government  
agencies -- by providing their lock-in-ware for free.


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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 06:12 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
> i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
> whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will
> identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i can
> pinpoint that can be removed.

apt-get autoremove

will help you remove packages that are not needed by other packages !

> 
>   this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
> assigned statically and another system is responsible for all DNS/DHCP
> functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove the
> dhcp-related packages.  that's just one example.

this is a bit more "human dependent" ... the packaging system can not
tell what packages _you_ don't want...

I'dd suggest "dpkg -l" and start looking at the one-by-one trying to
identify things you don't want.

then "apt-get remove package-i-dont-want" ... but be carefull with the
things that will be cascade-removed !!! read the messages carefully
before saying the final "Yes" :)

cheers
j


> 
>   any utilities that can help out in this regard?  thanks.
> 
> rday
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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Hi Robert,

Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will
identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i can
pinpoint that can be removed.

  this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
assigned statically and another system is responsible for all DNS/DHCP
functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove the
dhcp-related packages.  that's just one example.

  any utilities that can help out in this regard?  thanks.


A Debian package called "deborphan" might be useful.

When you remove items, you may want to purge them to be "cleaner".

Also, if you are not sure why a package is installed, you can do an 
"aptitude why packagename" and it will (hopefully) give you the extra 
information you need.


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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 29 October 2010 04:50:50 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 10/28/2010 11:25 AM:
> > I suggest against using toner or ink jet cartridges that are not
> > certified by the printer manufacturer since my experience has shown them
> > to be inferior products.  Most often, they over-saturate the page
> > leading to streak, smears, or even splotches and lower effective DPI.
> 
> Have you specifically noticed this with 3rd party toner cartridges, or
> are your comments aimed at ink cartridges?

streaks / smears : Both ink cartridges and toner drums.
splotches / lower DPI : Only ink cartridges.
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Re: s2ram

2010-10-29 Thread gun_smoke
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:54:13AM +0200, roberto wrote:
> hello, i usually switch to standby mode using:
> s2ram -f -p -m
> 
> 
> sometimes, it happens the laptop switches on correctly but the screen
> stays blank and the keyboard irresponsive:
> i could not figure out the issue but i'd like to know if there is
> anyway to bypass the forced shutdown i have to do afterwards, by
> pressing for 4-5 seconds the on/off button.
> 
> It is not a safe way, you know !
> My laptop has: linux 2.6.26, debian 5.0, kde 3.5.1
> RAM: 2GB
> Swap: 2GB
> 
> Thank you in advance
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If you are able to ssh to the machine you could possible restart X or if
needed restart the machine. 


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Re: s2ram

2010-10-29 Thread roberto
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:41 PM,   wrote:
>
> If you are able to ssh to the machine you could possible restart X or if
> needed restart the machine.

unfortunately i cannot ssh to the laptop


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Re: Recording A/V from embedded Flash player

2010-10-29 Thread lee
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:11:03PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:29:10 +0200
> Klistvud  wrote:
> 
> > Dne, 27. 10. 2010 17:33:36 je lee napisal(a):
> > > 
> > > Check out /var/log/squid3/access.log to see if you get a reasonable
> > > amount of hits. Out of the box, squid3 doesn´t cache much.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yep. I think its cache is a whooopping 100 MB by default ;)
> 
> > #Default:
> > # cache_dir ufs /var/spool/squid 100 16 256
> 
> 
> I suppose I ought to look into changing that.

It´s not only the cache size, there are almost no pages cached with
default settings. Look at how few hits you get.


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Re: routing

2010-10-29 Thread lee
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 01:31:22PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, lee:
> 
> >> host1 <-> eth <-> host2 <-> ppp
> 
> > using eth, just as you have a default route
> > on host2 using ppp0.
> 
> Just an addition, on host1 I have this routing table:
> 
> ho...@$ /sbin/route
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
> Iface 192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0
> 00 eth0 default 192.168.0.125   0.0.0.0 UG
> 0  00 eth0

You also need to do masquerading. That you don´t is the reason why no
answers get back to host 1.


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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 23:01 +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >  just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
> >i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
> >whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will
> >identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i can
> >pinpoint that can be removed.

> When you remove items, you may want to purge them to be "cleaner".

In addition to purging installed packages I would also suggest to purge
already removed packages:

aptitude purge ~c

will take care of that.

Another good way to find unused packages is 'popcon-largest-unused' from
the popularity-contest package.

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Re: Re: E: Read error - read (21 Is a directory) What is this

2010-10-29 Thread ravi
how to use strace, im gettin too much option


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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread gun_smoke
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 06:12:55AM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
>   just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
> i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
> whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will
> identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i can
> pinpoint that can be removed.
> 
>   this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
> assigned statically and another system is responsible for all DNS/DHCP
> functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove the
> dhcp-related packages.  that's just one example.
> 
>   any utilities that can help out in this regard?  thanks.
> 
> rday

I'm not that hot with 'find' but I suppose that would be helpful.


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Re (2): routing

2010-10-29 Thread peasthope
> You also need to do masquerading. That you don't is the reason why no
> answers get back to host 1.

My network has masquerading.  Some of notes configuration might help.
  http://carnot.yi.org/NetworksPage.html

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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/29/2010 06:24 AM, Klistvud wrote:

Dne, 29. 10. 2010 12:29:03 je Camaleón napisal(a):


Here in Spain, MS is reaching agreements with schools and public
institutions in order to provide almost at free of cost (just a
symbolic
fee) their products (Windows, MS Office...). And the agreement also
includes staff training and tech support on their side. Turn-key
solution. All included. No FLOSS company can compete nor provide that
conditions.

Kids will learn how to use MS products and so all government workers.



Not only in Spain, I'm afraid. Capitalism at its best.

Can't *anything* be done about it? I mean, the pushers have even
managed to circumvent the bidding rules that generally bind
government agencies -- by providing their lock-in-ware for free.



Bind them to what?  To spending as little as possible for the 
product/service.


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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread owens
>
>
>
> Original Message 
>From: noela...@gmail.com
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:29:03 + (UTC)
>
>>On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:50:50 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>
> One of the tenets of FOSS is a free or low cost alternative to
> commercial software.
 
 Free Software has *never* been about cost.
>>> 
>>> Not for the developers, but it certainly has been for many users
>of it.
>>
>>I really hope "cost" is not the only thing users take as their own
>scale 
>>for going FLOSS. I would also expect "quality" word appears as one
>one of 
>>the most valuated items FLOSS software can provide.
>>
>>>  My comments related to the reasons users choose FOSS.  One of
>them
>>> certainly is cost.  My analogy was that of "Why pay Microsoft $495
>for
>>> Office when Open Office is just as good for most users and is
>free".  By
>>> that logic, why pay $75 for a Lexmark toner cartridge when you can
>get a
>>> "compatible" cartridge for $28 that functions identically?
>>
>>That's a very wrong approach, IMO.
>>
>>Here in Spain, MS is reaching agreements with schools and public 
>>institutions in order to provide almost at free of cost (just a
>symbolic 
>>fee) their products (Windows, MS Office...). And the agreement also 
>>includes staff training and tech support on their side. Turn-key 
>>solution. All included. No FLOSS company can compete nor provide
>that 
>>conditions.
>>
>>Kids will learn how to use MS products and so all government
>workers. 
>>
>>Do you still think in this case MS products are better becasue they
>cost 
>>"nothing"? I don't think so, unless you understimate your freedom
>:-(
>>
>>Greetings,
>>
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>>
>>
I fear this has gone a bit OT but, at least in Engineering Schools,
companies often provide their very expensive analysis and design
software to the Universities for "free".  This isn't altruism this is
good business.  The companies feel that when the students graduate
and enter industry they will recommend the purchase of the very same
software, thereby increasing the company's market share.  Apple does
much the same to the lower division schools.
Larry
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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Chris Davies
Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
>  for instance, if a given shared library hasn't been linked in weeks
> or months, that's something to look at.  if none of the binary
> executables in a package have been executed in that long, another
> package to examine, that sort of thing.

You could possibly do something with this, which checks each installed
package for files that have been accessed in the last six months. Please
note, however, that it cannot work if you mount your relevant filesystems
with noatime!

for P in $(dpkg -l '*' | awk '/^i/{print $2}')
do
echo -n "Checking $P: " >&2
U=$(
for F in $(dpkg -L "$P")
do
test -f "$F" && find "$F" -atime +180
done 2>/dev/null
)
test -n "$U" && echo "in use" >&2 || echo "MAYBE NOT USED RECENTLY" >&2
done

Chris


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Re: Re (2): routing

2010-10-29 Thread lee
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 07:35:20AM -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> > You also need to do masquerading. That you don't is the reason why no
> > answers get back to host 1.
> 
> My network has masquerading.  Some of notes configuration might help.
>   http://carnot.yi.org/NetworksPage.html

There´s no zone "ubc" defined on dalton. On dalton, you´re not
masquerading all the local zones but only those connected via eth0.

How´s joule connected to dalton?


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Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread steef

Rodolfo Medina schreef:

Hi all.

Does anyone have any experience with laser printers toner refilling, such as
sold here:

  http://www.refilltoner.com

?  Does it work, is it easy to do?

Thanks for any response.

Rodolfo


   
a long experience: tonet refills/cartridges give often serious problems. 
i even lost a good (hp) printer by using them. now i y think twice 
before i should use them.


reg.,

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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Hi,

Chris Davies wrote:

Robert P. J. Day  wrote:

 for instance, if a given shared library hasn't been linked in weeks
or months, that's something to look at.  if none of the binary
executables in a package have been executed in that long, another
package to examine, that sort of thing.


You could possibly do something with this, which checks each installed
package for files that have been accessed in the last six months. Please
note, however, that it cannot work if you mount your relevant filesystems
with noatime!

for P in $(dpkg -l '*' | awk '/^i/{print $2}')
do
echo -n "Checking $P: " >&2
U=$(
for F in $(dpkg -L "$P")
do
test -f "$F" && find "$F" -atime +180
done 2>/dev/null
)
test -n "$U" && echo "in use" >&2 || echo "MAYBE NOT USED RECENTLY" >&2
done


That all looks good Chris, but I tried it and saw no results for "in 
use" and that makes no sense.  I don't use noatime mount option either.



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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/10/29 Robert P. J. Day :
>
>  just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
> i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
> whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will
> identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i can
> pinpoint that can be removed.
>
>  this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
> assigned statically and another system is responsible for all DNS/DHCP
> functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove the
> dhcp-related packages.  that's just one example.
>
>  any utilities that can help out in this regard?  thanks.

Just reinstall server from scratch and only install packages that you need :)

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Re: kernel org: 2.6.36 is stable

2010-10-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

Kernel org has 2.6.36 as stable.
Anybody tried that?



I tried it, with success ;-)

Had to install Nvidia driver 260.19.12 instead of 195.36.24 because the 
latter gets an error.


My two-seater comes right up.

Hugo


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Re (3): routing

2010-10-29 Thread peasthope
Lee,

Thanks for the feedback.  You are the first to mention these errors.

From:   lee 
Date:   Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:53:31 +0200
> There's no zone "ubc" defined on dalton. 

The concept is "OpenVPN tunnel zone" and the Web page was using 
the two names ubc and vpn ambiguously.  Now it is the vpn zone.

> On dalton, you're not masquerading all the local zones but only those 
> connected via eth0.

I don't understand.  There is only one local zone.  It is loc 
and it includes all subnets 172.24.0.0/16.  /etc/shorewall/masq 
specifies that these subnets are masqueraded via eth0.

> How's joule connected to dalton?

By the OpenVPN tunnel shown in the illustrations.
  http://carnot.yi.org/NetworkExtant.jpg
  http://carnot.yi.org/NetworkProposed.jpg
Links to these illustrations are at the top of NetworksPage.html.

Also, thanks to udev, I have a better way of naming the interfaces.
Can add that to the notes next week.

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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill

2010-10-29 Thread John Hasler
 Klistvud wrote:
> Not only in Spain, I'm afraid. Capitalism at its best.
>
> Can't *anything* be done about it? I mean, the pushers have even
> managed to circumvent the bidding rules that generally bind
> government agencies -- by providing their lock-in-ware for free.

"Capitalism"?  Public schools, public institutions, government agencies?
Sounds like government in action to me.  Now, if all of these
institutions were not centralised and homogenized as state monopolies...
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Re: E: Read error - read (21 Is a directory) What is this

2010-10-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 00:22:45 +0530, ravi wrote:

> how to use strace, im gettin too much option

And you are getting that error when you... (insert here the command you 
were issuing).

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Re: How do you install Debian Live to a hard drive?

2010-10-29 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:12:43 -0500, Jason Hsu, embedded engineer, Linux
user wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 00:59:53 +0400
> Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
> 
>> Well, I'm not sure about this, but theoretically, you can install
>> Debian installer (package debian-installer) in the live environment and
>> then use it to install the live system, but... Why not just grub the
>> first CD and install it?
>>
> Roman, I was able to download and install debian-installer by entering
> "sudo apt-get install debian-installer".  Where do I go from here?  How
> do I start the installation process?

Not sure if that will help on your task, but you can review Debian Live 
documentation here:

http://live.debian.net/manual/en/html/live-manual.html

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sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Rodney D. Myers
Debian Lenny

Sound plays as root, but not as user.

Previous computer died. Replaced computer, and moved /home hard drive
into new computer.

As root, I have run alsaconf numerous times, same result. root plays,
other users do not play

As root, "play *.wav" will play any wav file. As any user, my account,
or a freshly created account, I get this error message;

play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:3985:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or
directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
play soxio: Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device



When I attempt to run alsamixer, I get this message;

alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or
directory

any ideas?

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Re: Debian 6.0 'Squeeze' home server - Installation guide

2010-10-29 Thread Itay


On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, B. Alexander wrote:


Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:24:18 -0400
From: B. Alexander 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian 6.0 'Squeeze' home server - Installation guide
Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:24:36 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

[snip]

In any case, you should discuss bastion hosts vs. all-in-one servers. In
this discussion, you could bring up the point that while you can place them
on physical boxes, it might be more cost effective to virtualize them. There
are a number of options here, including

* openvz
* linux-vserver
* kvm
* xen
* vmware
* virtualbox


qemu?

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Re: procmail and Unicode header lines (RFC 2047)

2010-10-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Stanisław Findeisen wrote:
> Is there any support in Debian for Unicode e-mail header lines
> processing, e.g. with procmail?
> Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNEE7eiROJTUlViU4JSclLyVIGyhC?=
> 
> so they need to be decoded before doing anything useful with them. (See:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/ch-internet.en.html)

As far as I know there is no support in procmail for decoding those
fields.  I have always needed to create rules working with the encoded
data.

Example from some localized mailman filtering:
  * 1^0 ^Subject: [^ ]+ post from
  * 1^0 ^Subject: .*El_envio_a_
  * 1^0 ^Subject: .*Un_envoi_sur_la_liste_
  * 1^0 ^Subject: .*_taraf=FDndan_g=F6nderilen_

Using wildcards for the interesting characters has worked fairly well
with the European languages.  But I have no experience and no
suggestion for your example JP locale though.

You might try the procmail users mailing list for perhaps better
suggestions.

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Re: How do you install Debian Live to a hard drive?

2010-10-29 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 06:07:55PM -0500, Jason Hsu, embedded engineer, Linux 
user wrote:
> Rob, I tried the live build earlier today at 
> http://live-build.debian.net/cgi-bin/live-build , but I haven't received 
> notification that my package is complete.  And I didn't understand what many 
> of the options meant anyway.  Is there a page that gives an explanation of 
> what all those options mean?
> 
There is a package you can install on your existing debian system (if
you have one) called live-build.  You can then "man lb_config" and that
will detail a lot of the options.  Here's an example of how I build a
live image (without the live-build website).  As root:

lb config -d lenny -a i386 -b usb-hdd -p lxde --bootappend-live "persistent 
timezone=America/New_York" --interactive true

lb build

The "-p lxde" references a file in /usr/share/live/build/lists.  Each
file tells what packages to install.  You can edit them or create your
own.

The "--interactive true" drops you to a shell near the end of the build
so that you can manually add/remove/configure packages, or make any
other changes you want to the system before the image is built.

I've never used the web interface that you're using, so I can't give you
very specific help on that.

-Rob


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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:59:44PM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> Debian Lenny
> 
> Sound plays as root, but not as user.
> 
Is your regular user a member of the "audio" group?

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Re: JFTA? (was Re: Upgrade to Squeeze failed)

2010-10-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 26 oct 10, 09:29:31, francis southern wrote:
> On 26 October 2010 03:15, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> > On 10/26/2010 02:42 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >>
> >> On Lu, 25 oct 10, 22:56:03, lrhorer wrote:08:16 <@morrow> (i assume?)
> 
> 
>  It might be related to modesetting, which can be disabled by kernel
>  parameters.
> >>>
> >>> OK, which parameters.  A syntax example would help.
> >>
> >> JFTA, as far as I know it depends on your hardware, of which you told
> >> nothing so far.
> >>
> >
> > Just For The Asking?  (Google fails me, and that's all I can think of.)
> >
> I thought "Just for the archive", I do hate acronyms though. :-)

And it's what I meant, but re-reading now it doesn't seem like such a 
good idea anymore.

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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On 10/29/10 3:46 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:59:44PM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
>> > Debian Lenny
>> > 
>> > Sound plays as root, but not as user.
>> > 
> Is your regular user a member of the "audio" group?
> 
> -Rob

It is now. Forgot about that file.

Still getting this error message;

play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
play soxio: Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device

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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:29:39 -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:

> On 10/29/10 3:46 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:59:44PM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
>>> > Debian Lenny
>>> > 
>>> > Sound plays as root, but not as user.
>>> > 
>> Is your regular user a member of the "audio" group?
>> 
>> -Rob
> 
> It is now. Forgot about that file.
> 
> Still getting this error message;
> 
> play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav ALSA lib
> pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave play soxio:
> Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device

Did you reboot?

Yes... I know is not necessary, is just to be sure no other instance in 
background (flashplayer?) is monopolizing the sound device.

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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Artur Frydel
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
>   just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
> i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
> whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will
> identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i can
> pinpoint that can be removed.
>
>   this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
> assigned statically and another system is responsible for all DNS/DHCP
> functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove the
> dhcp-related packages.  that's just one example.
>
>   any utilities that can help out in this regard?  thanks.
>
> rday
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Re: Note about 6.0 installer, Nouveau, and Quadro NVS240

2010-10-29 Thread Joseph Lenox
 Thanks for the info, I ended up blacklisting nouveau for my single 
system. Anyone have an idea where on a debian-related wiki this useful 
and important info should go? I noticed debian-wiki itself is set for 
lenny and I'd rather not pollute it with squeeze info.


I'm also more interested in a method of automating this change (at least 
for me, I'm preparing a system install guide for lab machines that are 
going to move to squeeze. I'd set up something like FAI, but I cannot 
for the life of me grok the documentation).


On 10/28/2010 04:09 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2010-10-28 00:05 +0200, Camaleón wrote

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:47:44 -0500, Joseph Lenox wrote:

The version of Nouveau (FOSS nvidia driver) that ships with 6.0
(Squeeze) on last week's (2010-10-17) testing disc does not play nice
with the Quadro NVS240 graphics card. No output on screen at all even
for a console (monitor goes to power saving mode). I had to get into the
box with the disc recovery option, and remove the driver from its
modprobe list in /etc just to get to a text console.

Mmmm, there must be an easy way to disable KMS and load "nv" driver
without the needing of uninstalling "nuvó" packages. I dunno, just asking
because I'm also interested in how could this be done.

Boot with nouveau.modeset=0 parameter or create a file in
/etc/modprobe.d that blacklists the nouveau module (see
modprobe.conf(5) for details).  Create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf or modify
the existing one to use the nv driver:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
Section "Device"
Identifier  "n"
Driver  "nv"
EndSection
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Sven



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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On 10/29/10 4:38 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:29:39 -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> 
>> > On 10/29/10 3:46 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>>> >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:59:44PM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> >>> > Debian Lenny
> >>> > 
> >>> > Sound plays as root, but not as user.
> >>> > 
>>> >> Is your regular user a member of the "audio" group?
>>> >> 
>>> >> -Rob
>> > 
>> > It is now. Forgot about that file.
>> > 
>> > Still getting this error message;
>> > 
>> > play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav ALSA lib
>> > pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave play soxio:
>> > Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device
> Did you reboot?
> 
> Yes... I know is not necessary, is just to be sure no other instance in 
> background (flashplayer?) is monopolizing the sound device.
> 
> Greetings,

Not yet. am in the middle of a "mail server" install and config. Will do
that later.

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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 29 oct 10, 06:12:55, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
>   just a cleanup-related question but on a debian lenny server that
> i've inherited, i'm curious to know which packages have no value
> whatever and that i can delete.  i recall there's a utility that will
> identify unused libraries but i'm curious about what else i can
> pinpoint that can be removed.
> 
>   this system is a web/mail server and, since its IP address is
> assigned statically and another system is responsible for all DNS/DHCP
> functionality internally, i conclude that i can remove the
> dhcp-related packages.  that's just one example.
> 
>   any utilities that can help out in this regard?  thanks.

Yes, popcon-largest-unused from package popularity-contest.

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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/29/2010 08:17 AM, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
[snip]


Another good way to find unused packages is 'popcon-largest-unused' from
the popularity-contest package.



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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 29. 10. 2010 20:59:44 je Rodney D. Myers napisal(a):

Debian Lenny

Sound plays as root, but not as user.



I think on a stock Lenny installation, your plain users aren't members  
of the "can play sounds" group by default -- or of any  
"elevated-privilege" group, for that matter. Security reasons. You have  
to manually add them to such groups, that's all.


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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On 10/29/10 4:38 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:29:39 -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> 
>> On 10/29/10 3:46 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:59:44PM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> Debian Lenny
>
> Sound plays as root, but not as user.
>
>>> Is your regular user a member of the "audio" group?
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>
>> It is now. Forgot about that file.
>>
>> Still getting this error message;
>>
>> play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav ALSA lib
>> pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave play soxio:
>> Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device
> 
> Did you reboot?
> 
> Yes... I know is not necessary, is just to be sure no other instance in 
> background (flashplayer?) is monopolizing the sound device.
> 
> Greetings,

Did a reboot, still getting this error;

play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
play soxio: Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device

alsamixer shows the sound device, which makes this weird

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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 29. 10. 2010 23:20:30 je Rodney D. Myers napisal(a):


Did a reboot, still getting this error;

play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
play soxio: Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device

alsamixer shows the sound device, which makes this weird


I can almost bet my a...lsa that it's a permissions issue. Now, why the  
heck would you think that a *reboot* could help -- you said yourself it  
was working for the root account!?!? Maybe fiddle some more with  
groups, or perhaps create another user from scratch to see if sound  
works for him ... maybe even enable "all" groups in the user's  
properties for the time being? In Gnome, it's under System >  
Administration > Users and Groups > UserName > Properties.


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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 23:36:16 +0200, Klistvud wrote:

> Dne, 29. 10. 2010 23:20:30 je Rodney D. Myers napisal(a):
> 
>> Did a reboot, still getting this error;
>> 
>> play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav ALSA lib
>> pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave play soxio:
>> Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device
>> 
>> alsamixer shows the sound device, which makes this weird
> 
> I can almost bet my a...lsa that it's a permissions issue. Now, why the
> heck would you think that a *reboot* could help 

(...)

I suggested that. 

You can read the explantion in my last post, should you didn't see.

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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:20:30 -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:

> On 10/29/10 4:38 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> Did you reboot?
>> 
>> Yes... I know is not necessary, is just to be sure no other instance in
>> background (flashplayer?) is monopolizing the sound device.
>> 
>> Greetings,
> 
> Did a reboot, still getting this error;
> 
> play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav ALSA lib
> pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave play soxio:
> Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device
> 
> alsamixer shows the sound device, which makes this weird

Do you have ESD enabled? If so, try to disable.

Also, recheck your sound device permissions:

s...@stt008:~$ ls -l /dev/snd
total 0
crw-rw 1 root audio 116,  0 oct 29 07:42 controlC0
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 24 oct 29 07:42 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 16 oct 29 23:56 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 28 oct 29 07:42 pcmC0D4c
crw-rw 1 root audio 116,  1 oct 29 07:42 seq
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 oct 29 07:42 timer

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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 29. 10. 2010 23:55:45 je Camaleón napisal(a):


I suggested that.

You can read the explantion in my last post, should you didn't see.

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I see now. Apparently, my capability of giving any sound advice -- or  
"sound" advice -- is half sleeping already. I should wrap it up for  
today.


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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Chris Davies
Andrew McGlashan  wrote:
> That all looks good Chris, but I tried it and saw no results for "in 
> use" and that makes no sense.  I don't use noatime mount option either.

Swap the +180 for -180 and try again. (We should be looking for files
accessed *within* the last six months. Duh, sorry!)

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Re: sound not working after computer upgrade

2010-10-29 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On 10/29/10 6:05 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:20:30 -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> 
>> > On 10/29/10 4:38 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>>> >> Did you reboot?
>>> >> 
>>> >> Yes... I know is not necessary, is just to be sure no other instance in
>>> >> background (flashplayer?) is monopolizing the sound device.
>>> >> 
>>> >> Greetings,
>> > 
>> > Did a reboot, still getting this error;
>> > 
>> > play /usr/share/sounds/purple/send.wav ALSA lib
>> > pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave play soxio:
>> > Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio device
>> > 
>> > alsamixer shows the sound device, which makes this weird
> Do you have ESD enabled? If so, try to disable.
> 
> Also, recheck your sound device permissions:
> 
> s...@stt008:~$ ls -l /dev/snd
> total 0
> crw-rw 1 root audio 116,  0 oct 29 07:42 controlC0
> crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 24 oct 29 07:42 pcmC0D0c
> crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 16 oct 29 23:56 pcmC0D0p
> crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 28 oct 29 07:42 pcmC0D4c
> crw-rw 1 root audio 116,  1 oct 29 07:42 seq
> crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 oct 29 07:42 timer
> 
> Greetings,

My permissions match yours.

esd claims to be running;

esd
esd: Esound sound daemon already running or stale UNIX socket
/tmp/.esd/socket
This socket already exists indicating esd is already running.
Exiting...


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Re: Recording A/V from embedded Flash player

2010-10-29 Thread Bob

On 10/29/2010 08:54 PM, lee wrote:

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:11:03PM -0400, Celejar wrote:

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:29:10 +0200
Klistvud  wrote:


Dne, 27. 10. 2010 17:33:36 je lee napisal(a):


Check out /var/log/squid3/access.log to see if you get a reasonable
amount of hits. Out of the box, squid3 doesn´t cache much.



Yep. I think its cache is a whooopping 100 MB by default ;)



#Default:
# cache_dir ufs /var/spool/squid 100 16 256



I suppose I ought to look into changing that.


It´s not only the cache size, there are almost no pages cached with
default settings. Look at how few hits you get.


I don't have squid installed @themo so can't test but does this tutorial 
not apply to modern versions?

http://www.michaelboman.org/how-to/squid


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Re: how to tell what packages are unused on a debian server?

2010-10-29 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Chris Davies wrote:

Andrew McGlashan  wrote:
That all looks good Chris, but I tried it and saw no results for "in 
use" and that makes no sense.  I don't use noatime mount option either.


Swap the +180 for -180 and try again. (We should be looking for files
accessed *within* the last six months. Duh, sorry!)


Okay, I tried the change and let it finish the report.

I found all "in use", except for php5, but there is a bunch of php5 
stuff that is in use.


A small chop of the results here:

Checking php-cache-lite: in use
Checking php-fpdf: in use
Checking php-http-request: in use
Checking php-net-checkip: in use
Checking php-net-socket: in use
Checking php-net-url: in use
Checking php-pear: in use
Checking php5: MAYBE NOT USED RECENTLY
Checking php5-cgi: in use
Checking php5-cli: in use
Checking php5-common: in use
Checking php5-curl: in use
Checking php5-gd: in use
Checking php5-mcrypt: in use
Checking php5-mysql: in use
Checking php5-suhosin: in use
Checking phpmyadmin: in use


And then this:

r...@www:/usr/local/bin # aptitude why php5
Sat Oct 30 13:36:23 EST 2010 -- why php5
i   phpmyadmin Depends libapache2-mod-php5 | libapache-mod-php5 | 
php5-cgi | php5 | libapache2-mod-php4 | libapache-mod-php4 | php4 | php4-cgi




[I created my own aptitude "front-end" which has logging]

If you are interested, here it is:

#!/bin/bash

# System Binaries
APTITUDE=/usr/bin/aptitude
DATE=/bin/date
DPKG=/usr/bin/dpkg
DPKG_QUERY=/usr/bin/dpkg-query
SED=/bin/sed
TEE=/usr/bin/tee

# Variables
APTITUDE_HISTORY_FILE=/root/dpkg.wrk/aptitude-history
INSTALL_HISTORY=/root/dpkg.wrk/install-history

sdpkg='(cd ; cd dpkg.wrk ; $DPKG_QUERY -l > dpkg-query-l-`$DATE 
+%Y%m%d-%H:%M:%S` ; $DPKG --get-selections > dpkg--get-selections-`$DATE 
+%Y%m%d-%H:%M:%S`)'


echo `$DATE` -- $* |$TEE -a $APTITUDE_HISTORY_FILE

if [ "$1" == "install" ]; then
(
echo ""
$DATE
echo $APTITUDE $*
$APTITUDE $*
echo ""
CMD=`echo $APTITUDE show $*|$SED 's/show install/show/'`
echo $CMD
eval $CMD
echo ""
eval $sdpkg
) 2>&1 | $TEE -a $INSTALL_HISTORY
elif [ "$1" == "safe-upgrade" ]; then
(
echo ""
$DATE
echo $APTITUDE $*
$APTITUDE $*
echo ""
eval $sdpkg
) 2>&1 | $TEE -a $INSTALL_HISTORY
elif [ "$1" == "purge" ]; then
(
echo ""
$DATE
echo $APTITUDE $*
$APTITUDE $*
echo ""
eval $sdpkg
) 2>&1 | $TEE -a $INSTALL_HISTORY
else
$APTITUDE $*
fi


Cheers

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Re: X/kernel compatibiity?

2010-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:17:00 -0700, Ross wrote in message 
<1288203420.19063.0.ca...@corn.betterworld.us>:

> On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 18:43 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> > On 2010-10-26 22:13 +0200, Ross Boylan wrote:
> > 
> > > My amd64 system is basically running stable, including X, but I'm
> > > running linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 and associated firmware for
> > > reasons unrelated to X.
> > >
> > > After a recent upgrade, my monitor started behaving poorly (shrunk
> > > vertically and flickering

...horizontally by a coupla millimeters?

..I simply made a new modeline. ;o)

> > > ), and I'm wondering if this could be
> > > from an X vs kernel mismatch.
> > 
> > Unlikely unless you use kernel mode setting, but you could
> > blacklist the radeon module.  Have you tried older kernels (perhaps
> > a 2.6.32-3 kernel from snapshot.debian.org) yet?

..or 2.6.36~"experimental" and ditto X, works nicely here.
9800Pro, X850XTPE and Mobility FireGL V5200, once I get time, 
I'll set up my pile of 9250's to feed a FlightGear igloo. ;o)
 
> > Sven
> > 
> That's an excellent idea, that I unfortunately didn't think of.  I
> sent the monitor off for repair. Ross

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Re: install via own mirror (nfs)

2010-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:20:30 +0200, Matthias wrote in message 
<4cc9a2ce.7010...@nld.ds.mpg.de>:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I would like to install debian using an own mirror that I set up on
> an NFS server which is available in the local network.
> I do a tftpboot/pxelinux netboot on the client machine and boot into
> the kernel image provided in the netboot directory 
> (/dists/stable/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/).
> I only get the possibility to select between http and ftp for access
> to a mirror but I don't have the possibility to use either of them.
> I tried also to manually mount the nfs-share containing the mirror
> via the busybox-shell, but that doesn't work (apparently, this
> busybox does not support nfs).
> I also did a comprehensive web-search but did not find any answer to
> my question. I was previously using openSuSE where this works without
> any problems.
> Is there a way to do this, or am I wasting my time?

..install a webserver on your mirror NFS box, then just pick 
that mirror "manually."

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Re: kernel org: 2.6.36 is stable

2010-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:43:17 -0500, Hugo wrote in message 
:

> Hi,
> 
> Kernel org has 2.6.36 as stable.
> Anybody tried that?

..aye, it makes a total mockery of PR buzz like "unstable" and
"experimental", a few decades back people eased down from WWII 
setting speed records in planes with such verbal nose art. ;o)

..all my radeon boxes run 2.6.36-trunk.

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sid: 'git command' works but not 'git-command'

2010-10-29 Thread Joel Roth
Is there any configuration option for this, or
do I need to create a bunch of aliases?

Thanks. I wonder who decided to make this change.
Is it a Debian or a git decision? Or perhaps a bug?

'man git-merge' is present, but not executable 'git-merge'.

Thanks.

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Re: X/kernel compatibiity?

2010-10-29 Thread Ross Boylan
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 05:23 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:17:00 -0700, Ross wrote in message 
> <1288203420.19063.0.ca...@corn.betterworld.us>:
> 
> > On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 18:43 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> > > On 2010-10-26 22:13 +0200, Ross Boylan wrote:
> > > 
> > > > My amd64 system is basically running stable, including X, but I'm
> > > > running linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 and associated firmware for
> > > > reasons unrelated to X.
> > > >
> > > > After a recent upgrade, my monitor started behaving poorly (shrunk
> > > > vertically and flickering
> 
> ...horizontally by a coupla millimeters?
No, the shrinkage was vertical, maybe 5 mm on each side.
> ..I simply made a new modeline. ;o)
I have a minimalist xorg.conf; almost everything is autodetected.
Ross
> 
> > > > ), and I'm wondering if this could be
> > > > from an X vs kernel mismatch.
> > > 
> > > Unlikely unless you use kernel mode setting, but you could
> > > blacklist the radeon module.  Have you tried older kernels (perhaps
> > > a 2.6.32-3 kernel from snapshot.debian.org) yet?
> 
> ..or 2.6.36~"experimental" and ditto X, works nicely here.
> 9800Pro, X850XTPE and Mobility FireGL V5200, once I get time, 
> I'll set up my pile of 9250's to feed a FlightGear igloo. ;o)
>  
> > > Sven
> > > 
> > That's an excellent idea, that I unfortunately didn't think of.  I
> > sent the monitor off for repair. Ross
> 
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> ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
>   Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
>   best case, worst case, and just in case.
> 
> 


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