Re: Firefox

2010-10-23 Thread Volkan YAZICI
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010, Mark  writes:
> whenever I open up firefox it crashes. I can't figure out why

Try starting it with fresh configurations. That is,

  $ mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/firefox.bak
  $ firefox


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Re: Ethernet port dead

2010-10-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 22 oct 10, 14:58:12, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
> I'm attaching the file ethernet-enquiry.tar.gz, that you can unpack with `tar
> xzvf ethernet-enquiry.tar.gz'.  It's only 12Kb.  There are all those outputs:
> 
> dmesg
> ifconfig -a
> uname -a
> modprobe sis990
> lspci -nnk
> 
> for the two different systems Debian Etch and Debian Lenny on the same machine
> from two different partitions.

Ok, it seems like the card is present in lspci only on Lenny (kernel 
2.6.26-1-686). Unfortunately I mistyped the module name, it should have 
been sis900. Can you please retry the modprobe on lenny and then post 
here 'ifconfig -a'?

As a sidenote, you might want to upgrade lenny to 
linux-image-2.6.26-2-686, or just install linux-image-2.6-686, which 
always depends on the latest kernel for the given suite.

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Re: scrollbar on left side

2010-10-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 22 oct 10, 01:25:28, lee wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:34:49PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 10/21/2010 03:48 PM, lee wrote:
> > >
> > >On a side note: Someone once asked me why the text is moving up when
> > >you move the scrollbar down. Where´s the logic in that? Why isn´t the
> > >text moving up together with the scroll bar?
> > 
> > Take a piece of construction paper and cut a 2mm slit in it.
> > 
> > Now open a book to the middle and put the construction paper on the
> > book's page so that you only see the first few lines.
> > 
> > As you pull down the slit, the visible lines appear to move *up* the
> > slit.
> 
> But who´s reading books like that?

We are. Even Superman has to turn pages (he never used his super sight 
to just read an entire book at once), so his slit is one page big, 
whereas ours is just a few rows big ;)

Even assuming you could comprehend an entire book at once, our 
view-angle is limited, so we can only look at a limited part of a big 
text at once.
 
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Re: Help for adding a new language in Debian web pages (was: ayuda)

2010-10-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 21 oct 10, 13:49:30, Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:37:41 -0300, KSE ltar wrote:
> 
> > how to can i do a new web language translation como agregar una nueva
> > traduccion de idioma de la web
> > 
> > guarani avane'e (iso 639-2 grn)
> 
> I would ask in Debian "www" mailing list:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/

Yes, but read this first.

http://www.debian.org/devel/website/translating

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Re: change in behavior of iptables with respect to firestarter

2010-10-23 Thread Greg Madden


On Friday 22 October 2010 18:13:54 Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
> On 10/22/2010 07:42 PM, Greg Madden wrote:
> > On Friday 22 October 2010 14:57:15 Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
> >> On 10/22/2010 06:00 PM, Greg Madden wrote:
> >>> On Friday 22 October 2010 11:00:40 Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
>  Does this have something to do with Firestarter being started (or not
>  started) at different run levels during startup? I briefly see
>  something about it scrolling by, but I never get a chance to read it.
> >>>
> >>> You can use 'dmesg |grep   ' to see what happens during boot.
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Many thanks for the idea.
> >>
> >> I get no result from any variation of "fire I can think of to substitute
> >> for.
> >>
> >> I had already pored over dmesg to see if I could find anything, and it
> >> was to no avail. (I really have to get off my lazy behind and start
> >> studying things like use of grep with the logs.)
> >>
> >> As I said to Rob, I'm thinking I've got a "project" for the weekend.
> >>
> >> Ouch! The wife just saw me type that!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Gilbert
> >
> > 'firestarter' has a script in '/etc/init.d' and gets started by a link in
> > a run level, check that out.
> >
> > As mentioned 'iptables -L' will show if it gets started. This is
> > independent of whether or not the 'firestarter' gui is used.
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, as suggested by Rob Owens I ran
>
> # /etc/init.d/firestarter start
>
> and the firewall started, with iptables showing the proper behavior when
> I issued the "iptables -L" command.
>
> So it seems, for some reason, that the script isn't being run at
> startup. Whether it's due to it not being called at all or whether it's
> due to something else is beyond me right now. I've been a couple of days
> without sleep (because of issues utterly unrelated to this), and I've
> got to get to sleep.
>
> But, right now, it looks to me as though the system simply hasn't been
> asked to start firestarter (if I can trust my very tired brain)!
> Otherwise, I'd imagine that I would have seen error messages somewhere.
>
> It's beyond my ability to comprehend right now. I'll try to tackle this
> again in a few hours when I've had some sleep.
>
> Many thanks for your help.
>
> Regards,
> Gilbert


Runlevel 2 is the default runlevel. 

Look for a link: '/etc/rc2.d/Sxxfirestarter -> ../init.d/firestarter' 
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Re: restricting number of user logins

2010-10-23 Thread Alberto Luaces
Mag Gam writes:

> Currently we do alot of `rsync -e ssh` to a host.  Is it possible to
> restrict only 5 logins per user on the server?  My goal is to avoid
> having 100s of these sshd processes running on the server which will
> slow it down.

Are all these connections from different computers? If not, you could
try to reuse an existing connection of a client with ssh's ControlPath
option.

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Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Scarletdown
I'm having some problems with videos I have made from an external USB
capture device.  One Linux machine I am testing on fails to play the
music from the videos.  Instead, I get a bunch of high pitched static.

The captures were done on a Windows machine with WinDVR (it's highly
doubtful that this capture device has any *NIX drivers), which
defaults to mpeg video and mp2 audio apparently, with no obvious way
to save to any other format.

Here is one of the videos I made:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5XJYgfQk5I

It plays fine on the 2 Windows boxes I tested it on, as well as on one
Debian box.  However, the other Debian box (and the Wii via the
Internet channel) fail to play the sound.  I'm sure the problem is in
the file itself and not the machines that it failed on, but I have no
idea where to begin troubleshooting,

I tried running the files through AVIDemux in an attempt to change the
sound encoding to another format, but that gave the same results;
garbled sound on the systems that were having trouble before.

Could someone here perhaps download the file I posted and check it out
to figure out why it does not work like it should?  Will it be
possible to convert it to a format that works?  I really don't want to
try to redo the above performance.


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Re: Ethernet port dead

2010-10-23 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Andrei Popescu  writes:

> On Vi, 22 oct 10, 14:58:12, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> 
>> I'm attaching the file ethernet-enquiry.tar.gz, that you can unpack with
>> `tar xzvf ethernet-enquiry.tar.gz'.  It's only 12Kb.  There are all those
>> outputs:
>> 
>> dmesg
>> ifconfig -a
>> uname -a
>> modprobe sis990
>> lspci -nnk
>> 
>> for the two different systems Debian Etch and Debian Lenny on the same
>> machine from two different partitions.
>
> Ok, it seems like the card is present in lspci only on Lenny (kernel 
> 2.6.26-1-686). Unfortunately I mistyped the module name, it should have 
> been sis900. Can you please retry the modprobe on lenny and then post 
> here 'ifconfig -a'?


`modprobe sis900' gets no output at all; the output of `ifconfig -a' is the one
I sent in the file `ethernet-enquiry.tar.gz'.


> As a sidenote, you might want to upgrade lenny to 
> linux-image-2.6.26-2-686, or just install linux-image-2.6-686, which 
> always depends on the latest kernel for the given suite.


Do you think the upgrade will solve the problem?

Thanks
Rodolfo


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Re: Ethernet port dead

2010-10-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 23 oct 10, 11:48:59, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
> `modprobe sis900' gets no output at all; the output of `ifconfig -a' is the 
> one
> I sent in the file `ethernet-enquiry.tar.gz'.

Hmm, no output usually means no error. Anything new showing in dmesg?

> > As a sidenote, you might want to upgrade lenny to 
> > linux-image-2.6.26-2-686, or just install linux-image-2.6-686, which 
> > always depends on the latest kernel for the given suite.
> 
> Do you think the upgrade will solve the problem?

No, it's just a good idea to always use the latest stable kernel, mostly 
for security reasons.

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Re: scrollbar on left side

2010-10-23 Thread lee
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:15:52AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Vi, 22 oct 10, 01:25:28, lee wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:34:49PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On 10/21/2010 03:48 PM, lee wrote:
> > > >
> > > >On a side note: Someone once asked me why the text is moving up when
> > > >you move the scrollbar down. Where´s the logic in that? Why isn´t the
> > > >text moving up together with the scroll bar?
> > > 
> > > Take a piece of construction paper and cut a 2mm slit in it.
> > > 
> > > Now open a book to the middle and put the construction paper on the
> > > book's page so that you only see the first few lines.
> > > 
> > > As you pull down the slit, the visible lines appear to move *up* the
> > > slit.
> > 
> > But who´s reading books like that?
> 
> We are. Even Superman has to turn pages (he never used his super sight 
> to just read an entire book at once), so his slit is one page big, 
> whereas ours is just a few rows big ;)
> 
> Even assuming you could comprehend an entire book at once, our 
> view-angle is limited, so we can only look at a limited part of a big 
> text at once.

Still we don´t put construction paper with a small slit in it onto the
pages of books we´re reading, and the text on the pages isn´t moving.


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Re: change in behavior of iptables with respect to firestarter

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:03:59PM -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
> As root I ran
>
> /etc/init.d/firestarter start
>
> and I got
>
> Starting the Firestarter firewall
>
> I ran
>
> iptables -L
>
> and I could see that iptables is properly doing "its thing". The rules  
> are in place!
>
> So, for some reason, firestarter isn't being started during the boot  
> process.
>
> So, I guess I have to find out whether the fact that firestarter isn't  
> being started is because a) it hasn't been asked to start, or b) it has  
> been asked to start, but with insufficient credentials (or, in some  
> other manor, improperly). Have I got that right?
>
What if the network isn't up when firestarter is asked to start?  Would
it start anyway?  Would it fail to start and log an error?  Or would it
fail silently?

I'm not sure of the answers to the above.  Maybe you could try shutting
down your network manually, then start firestarter manually, and see
what happens.

Another idea:  You could edit /etc/init.d/firestarter to make it pause
long enough that you can read any errors on the boot screen.  Just enter
a "read" statement where you want it to pause.  On second thought, it
might be easier to put the "read" statement at the beginning of the
script that comes *after* firestarter in the boot process.  That'll be
the file in /etc/rc2.d that comes after the firestarter script (in
alphanumeric order).

Note, you have to hit  to get past the "read" statement.

-Rob


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Re: Wierd kde/gnome interaction

2010-10-23 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:46:09 -0400, B. Alexander wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> Re-check the services. In Squeeze they have been renamed to "gvfs-*".
>> There must be something in the GNOME side running in background
>> "cannibalizing" your device monitoring.
>>

> Aha. That makes a difference.
> 
> storm 4099  0.0  0.0   6924  1756 ?SOct03   0:06 
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
> storm 4153  0.0  0.0   7300  2148 ?SOct03   0:00 
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.57 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
> storm 4218  0.0  0.0  41680  3012 ?SOct03   0:07 
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor 
> storm 4266  0.0  0.0   7060  1736 ?SOct03   0:00 
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor 
> storm 4276  0.0  0.0  16852  1612 ?Sl   Oct03   0:42 
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor 
> storm 4304  0.0  0.0   6956  1660 ?SOct03   0:00 
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-burn --spawner :1.57 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1 
> storm 4326  0.0  0.0   6108  1356 ?SOct03   0:00 
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-metadata
> 
> How do I turn it off in KDE but make sure it is enabled if I ever log
> into Gnome?

First, I don't think they should be running at all inside a KDE session, 
only when you login in a GNOME session.

Second, try to guess what of the above services is the one monopolizing 
the volume manager and kill the process (maybe "gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor"?) 
then connect a USB flash or a CD medium to see what happens.

If that woks, you'll have to see a way to avoid loading the service at 
startup O:-)

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Re: problems with USB disk

2010-10-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 02:49:10 +0200, lee wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 03:36:44PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:07:09 +0200, lee wrote:
>> 
>> > I´m having trouble copying files for backup purposes to an USB disk
>> > with rsync. Copying the files sometimes fails with "Input/output
>> > error (5)", and I´m getting messages in the syslog like these:
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
>> > [128627.397894] EXT4-fs error (device sdf3):> __ext4_get_inode_loc:
>> > unable to read inode block - inode=52298807, block=209191011
>> 
>> That looks like a filesystem error/corruption. Did you fsck-it?
> 
> I´ve had this two or three times before when the disk was connected to
> an USB 3.0 controller. (It´s an USB 3.0 capable enclosure.) Last time
> when there were copying errors, the disk was connected to the USB 3.0
> controller. Umount and sync would just hang indefinitely. When I tried
> to rmmod the xhci module, the computer froze :(

Have you tested the unit with another computer? Just in case...

OTOH, what USB drive is this (brand and model)? :-?
 
(...)

> If the cable or the enclosure were defective, could I sometimes write
> about 650GB without problems and sometimes not? I leave the USB cable
> plugged in, so no changes between working/failing there.
> 
> Perhaps the best way is to get a new USB 3.0 cable and do some testing
> on this disk ...

I see. It's an embedded USB disk enclosure that does not allow to extract 
the disk without removing guarantee and all that annoyances. That's why I 
avoid these devices (I prefer buying the USB case and hard disk separated 
with external power supply) :-(

Well, read the manufacturer's specs for the unit (file system format 
support) and check it with another computer using one of the supported 
formatting options (better yet, ext3 if available) to see what happens. 
If you are still facing the same problems, just RMA the drive.

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Re: add downloaded program to menu or run it--how?

2010-10-23 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:03:17 -0400, Doug wrote:

> On 10/22/2010 05:25 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:11:50 -0400, Doug wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have downloaded synaptiks using synaptic package manager.  It shows
>>> up as "installed" but it doesn't show on any menu, and I have no idea
>>> how to run it.  (It disables the scratchpad when an external mouse is
>>> connected.  This is much better than the default mode which only
>>> disables the scratchpad while you are typing.)
>>>  
>> As per its webpage:
>>
>> http://synaptiks.lunaryorn.de/index.html
>>
>> It seems that you can add a widget to launch it or going to KDE user
>> settings to configure the touchpad behaviour.
>>
>>
> I'm afraId that I'm snowed by all this.  In the first place, I'm running
> the standard Debian--the Gnome GUI, not KDE.  

Uh? Then why installing a KDE app? I think you can control touchpad in 
GNOME. What are your requirements, disable the touchpad when external 
pointer is present? If yes, that should be configurable:

***
http://live.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings

Touchpad

* Disable touchpad
* Disable tapping and scrolling
* Disable while any other devices are connect.
  o This options is available only if you use with GNOME. 
***

> The file is here.
> Somewhere.  There are a ton of synaptiks files under /usr/share/
> kde4/services, but none are executable, and the filenames don't hint at
> which might work if you chmod'd it.  

"whereis synaptiks" should tell you where to find all the files :-)

> Unix is so obscure.  At least with
> DOS/Windows, you knew if a file ended in .com or .exe you could execute
> it and see what happens.

Ugh, no, MS extensions are one of the most security holes in MS windows 
systems (provided that "known extensions" are hidden by default, I still 
fail to see what's the point of that :-/)
 
> In plain English, how does one get a file from the package manager and
> run it?  What good is the p.m. if it just fills up your disk with stuff
> that you can't execute?
> 
> So, what now?

You are installing a KDE application that integrates with KDE control 
center (user settings) and can be launched as plasma applet. Not sure how 
to deal with that under GNOME :-?

Try with the GNOME settings first or by using "gpointing-device-settings" 
app), the option you are looking for should be present and tweakeable.

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Re: Ethernet port dead

2010-10-23 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Andrei Popescu  writes:

> On Sb, 23 oct 10, 11:48:59, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> 
>> `modprobe sis900' gets no output at all; the output of `ifconfig -a' is the
>> one I sent in the file `ethernet-enquiry.tar.gz'.
>
> Hmm, no output usually means no error. Anything new showing in dmesg?


Here it is:

http://paste.debian.net/97784/

Rodolfo


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Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed

2010-10-23 Thread David Van Mosselbeen

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:54:57 +0200, Ogya Chief 
wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
>  
> 
> I have just bought a pc with Windows 7 pre-installed and I want to
> partition and install debian on the drive. If I use the debian
installer's
> partitioner, what precautions do I have to take in order not to damage
the
> Windows partition?
> 
>  
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Ogya

Hi,
Kinda late to reply on this, but yah...

My wife own a Compaq laptop with Windows 7 preinstalled. A few days ago i
have installed Debian testing (the daily netinst cd) on it. I have resized
the windows NTFS partition with the debian installer. Just select that
option to manualy manage the partition when you are on the partitions
screen. Then i created the needed linux partitions. Then installed the base
install and installed all my lovely toys.

All was ok, just got a little bonus issue, nothing to do with the
partitioning (i think). Grub not showing the windows 7 entry in the
bootloader menu. os-prober was been detecting 3 Windows operating systems
(1 win7 and 2 of Vista which i don't have). Had need to run update-grub to
get this issue fixed. Well, i still have an issue with showing 3 windows
operating systems in the bootloader, but that's another issue :) Maybe the
black magic of the Compaq recovery utility for Windows. I still need to
check.

Anyway, i recommend you make a good backup before doing irreversible
things.

Bah, i guess your install is already done a few days ago :) But so you
know about this one which i find kinda nice and easy to do.

Have a nice day all,
David,


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Re: Firefox

2010-10-23 Thread Kent West
On 10/23/10 2:21 AM, Volkan YAZICI wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2010, Mark  writes:
>> whenever I open up firefox it crashes. I can't figure out why
> Try starting it with fresh configurations. That is,
>
>   $ mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/firefox.bak
>   $ firefox
>
>
Or try starting in Safe Mode: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode


  Linux

On Linux, you can go to your Terminal and run (for Firefox):

* |/path/to/firefox/firefox -safe-mode|

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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 02:17:01AM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> I'm having some problems with videos I have made from an external USB
> capture device.  One Linux machine I am testing on fails to play the
> music from the videos.  Instead, I get a bunch of high pitched static.
> 
> The captures were done on a Windows machine with WinDVR (it's highly
> doubtful that this capture device has any *NIX drivers), which
> defaults to mpeg video and mp2 audio apparently, with no obvious way
> to save to any other format.
> 
> Here is one of the videos I made:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5XJYgfQk5I
> 
> It plays fine on the 2 Windows boxes I tested it on, as well as on one
> Debian box.  However, the other Debian box (and the Wii via the
> Internet channel) fail to play the sound.  I'm sure the problem is in
> the file itself and not the machines that it failed on, but I have no
> idea where to begin troubleshooting,
> 
> I tried running the files through AVIDemux in an attempt to change the
> sound encoding to another format, but that gave the same results;
> garbled sound on the systems that were having trouble before.
> 
> Could someone here perhaps download the file I posted and check it out
> to figure out why it does not work like it should?  Will it be
> possible to convert it to a format that works?  I really don't want to
> try to redo the above performance.
> 
I downloaded the file, and ffmpeg tells me it's h264 video and libfaad
audio.  Perhaps youtube converted it when you uploaded?

Anyway, it plays fine on my Lenny amd64 system using mplayer from
www.debian-multimedia.org.  But it does not play at all in VLC or Totem.

One thing I do notice is that all the music is coming from the right
speaker.  The left speaker just has some low-volume noise.

Use avidemux to make a short clip of the video (about 5 MB), and email
it to me.  I'll do some testing on the file with its original encoding
over the weekend.

-Rob


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rfcomm does not work - always NO pairing with my Nokia 6230i

2010-10-23 Thread Reginaldo Stückner
Programm does NOT work :-( 

as decribed on this page :

http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting#findpkgver

i hope now, YOU have ALL the necessary informations ? 


$ which rfcomm
/usr/bin/rfcomm

$ dpkg --search /usr/binrfcomm
rfcomm is hashed (/usr/bin/rfcomm)

#dpkg --list bluez-utils

Gewünscht=Unbekannt/Installieren/R=Entfernen/P=Vollständig Löschen/Halten
| Status=Nicht/Installiert/Config/U=Entpackt/halb konFiguriert/
 Halb installiert/Trigger erWartet/Trigger anhängig
|/ Fehler?=(kein)/R=Neuinstallation notwendig (Status, Fehler: GROSS=schlecht)
||/ Name Version
Beschreibung
+++--==-
==
ii  bluez-utils  4.66-1 
Transitional package

#dpkg --status bluez-utils
Package: bluez-utils
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 84
Maintainer: Debian Bluetooth Maintainers 
Architecture: all
Source: bluez
Version: 4.66-1
Depends: bluetooth
Description: Transitional package
 This is a transitional package to assist with moving people to the
 BlueZ 4.x stack.
Homepage: http://www.bluez.org

BUT if using a LIVE-CD, Ubuntu 9.04, on the same computer, i have a bluetooth 
icon on top and can decide, please use - 1234 - as the password and 

IT WORKS ! PAIRING is made !

So W H Y  is it in Debian NOT working ? ? ? 

I am searching since a few days for a solution, but the guy from :

http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=124220&p=794131#p794131

had until now no idea what i can do :-( 

So can i help YOU to correct this ?

Please tell me WHAT to do or WHAT to try ! 

Thanks from Schmidhofen, Bad Krozingen, 25 km south to Freiburg im Breisgau / 
Germany 

Reginaldo 





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Re: change in behavior of iptables with respect to firestarter

2010-10-23 Thread Gilbert Sullivan

On 10/23/2010 04:57 AM, Greg Madden wrote:


Runlevel 2 is the default runlevel.

Look for a link: '/etc/rc2.d/Sxxfirestarter ->  ../init.d/firestarter'


Hi, Greg.

Thanks to you and Rob I'm getting a bit of an education.

I found /etc/rc2.d/S19firestarter. It does not contain any apparent (to 
me) direct reference to the /etc/init.d/firestarter file. This is an 
excerpt from /etc/rc2.d/S19firestarter.


-8<
. /lib/lsb/init-functions

FS_CONTROL="/etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh"

[ -x /usr/sbin/firestarter ] || exit 0
[ -x $FS_CONTROL ] || exit 0
[ -s /etc/firestarter/configuration ] || exit 0
-8<

It looks it's starting a script called firestarter.sh, and that's 
running a bunch of tests, the outcome of which determine what 
firestarter is supposed to do? (I'm asking here, but it seems that's 
what's going on.)


What has perplexed me about all of this is the lack of any kind of 
warning being issued in the Firestarter GUI -- and no apparent (to me) 
warnings to be found in dmesg or syslog.


I had brought the systems to the other network and tried to connect by 
SSH from notebook to desktop. I couldn't do it because I had forgot to 
tell Wicd about the change in networks. (I use fixed IP addresses both 
at home and at the alternative network.)


I told Wicd to change the network settings to the profile I use on the 
alternate network. Then I corrected from notebook to desktop right away. 
But I realized that this should not have been possible because I had not 
changed the firewall rules in the desktop firewall's incoming policy. I 
cranked up firestarter on the desktop and lost my connection. After a 
little bit of head scratching, here I am.


Now that I'm home I suddenly hit upon a cunning plan. I played around 
with two other Debian testing systems (my wife's), and I learned that 
irestarter is working perfectly on her systems. There's no sign of the 
problem on them, and firestarter works on them exactly the way I 
remember it working on my systems. As far as I know, all four systems 
(her two, and the two of mine that are malfunctioning) have been 
configured almost identically.


So I went to her systems and hit ++ to get tty1, and I 
can definitely see a difference on that screen. On her two systems with 
firestarter running properly there are no hints of trouble. On both of 
mine I see the following:


Starting MTA: exim4.
Starting the Firestarter firewall... failed!
Starting kerneloops:

...and, a little later...

Starting Network connection manager: wicd.
startpar: service(s) returned failure: firestarter ... failed!
Running scripts in rc2.d/ took xx seconds.

On both of her systems I see the same thing -- except, of course, for 
the two "failed!" warnings.


So, at least I know how I can tell whether or not my firewall has 
started. Just look at tty1. (Where would those failures be logged?)


I did try issuing the command on both of my computers after booting, and 
that succeeded with no warnings.


# /etc/init.d/firestarter start
Firewall started

When I check with "iptables -L" I can see that the rules are now in 
place. So I guess from all of this evidence that firestarter is being 
called properly, but that some condition for its startup is not being 
met and is causing the failure.


And then I rebooted (showing the same failures in tty1) and tried 
starting the firewall this way.


# /etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh start
Firewall started

and that worked, too. So whatever wasn't allowing the script to work 
before gdm pops up is no longer defeating it after I've logged on to the 
systems.


I'm sorry to be writing a book. This is interesting. I guess it's going 
to take some more digging to find out why the firewalls on these two 
systems are failing. Could it be simply that they both have two network 
configurations and my wife's systems only have one? That's the only 
significant configuration difference that I can think of.


I appreciate your help,
Gilbert


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Re: change in behavior of iptables with respect to firestarter

2010-10-23 Thread Gilbert Sullivan

On 10/23/2010 08:16 AM, Rob Owens wrote:

What if the network isn't up when firestarter is asked to start?  Would
it start anyway?  Would it fail to start and log an error?  Or would it
fail silently?

I'm not sure of the answers to the above.  Maybe you could try shutting
down your network manually, then start firestarter manually, and see
what happens.


Good call. I booted the systems and disconnected their network 
connectors. I tried two commands with results as follows:


# /etc/init.d/firestarter start
Starting the Firestarter firewall... failed!

# /etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh start
External network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..

Greg Madden had suggested looking at the /etc.rc2.d/S19firestarter link, 
and that's what led me to trying those two different commands.


I had finally pulled my head out and realized that I might see something 
if I switched to tty1. As I told Greg, this is what I found:


Starting MTA: exim4.
Starting the Firestarter firewall... failed!
Starting kerneloops:

...and, a little later...

Starting Network connection manager: wicd.
startpar: service(s) returned failure: firestarter ... failed!
Running scripts in rc2.d/ took xx seconds.

After a reboot and logging in each time, if I have a working network 
connection, either of the aforementioned commands succeeds.


I'm guessing that maybe the firewall isn't starting because the network 
connection hasn't yet been established. My wife's systems both have only 
one network configuration. My systems have two network configurations. 
Even though I usually remember to set wicd to use the next network I'm 
going to be using before I shut down, do you suppose it's possible that 
the multiple network connections configuration causes some change in 
behavior that slows the establishment of a connection, and that could be 
the reason the firewall isn't coming up when the systems are started?



Another idea:  You could edit /etc/init.d/firestarter to make it pause
long enough that you can read any errors on the boot screen.  Just enter
a "read" statement where you want it to pause.  On second thought, it
might be easier to put the "read" statement at the beginning of the
script that comes *after* firestarter in the boot process.  That'll be
the file in /etc/rc2.d that comes after the firestarter script (in
alphanumeric order).

Note, you have to hit  to get past the "read" statement.

-Rob


I tried editing /etc/rc2.d/S19kerneloops, which seems to be the next 
script to be executed after /etc.rc2.d/S19firestarter, but I couldn't 
see anything. I just added


read

at the beginning of that script. Is that what you were suggesting? The 
gdm screen came up and blocked my view of the scrolling text. When I 
switched to tty1 I just saw these lines


Starting the Firestarter firewall... failed!
read: 1: arg count
$Starting kerneloops:

instead of

Starting the Firestarter firewall... failed!
Starting kerneloops:

Sorry if I'm being dumb. I don't know what a read statement is, but I 
figured it would be sort of like adding


pause

in a DOS batch file?

Thanks again for your time and effort,
Gilbert


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Re: change in behavior of iptables with respect to firestarter

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:53:33AM -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
>
> Starting Network connection manager: wicd.
> startpar: service(s) returned failure: firestarter ... failed!
> Running scripts in rc2.d/ took xx seconds.
>
Ah, you're using wicd.  For each network connection, click on the
"scripts" button.  Tell it to run firestarter when the connection is
activated.  (Ideally you'd want it to run *before* the connection is
activated, but it sounds like that isn't going to work based on your
experiences).

> I'm guessing that maybe the firewall isn't starting because the network  
> connection hasn't yet been established. My wife's systems both have only  
> one network configuration. My systems have two network configurations.  
> Even though I usually remember to set wicd to use the next network I'm  
> going to be using before I shut down, do you suppose it's possible that  
> the multiple network connections configuration causes some change in  
> behavior that slows the establishment of a connection, and that could be  
> the reason the firewall isn't coming up when the systems are started?
>
I'm not sure what the reason for the different behaviour of the two
systems is.

> I tried editing /etc/rc2.d/S19kerneloops, which seems to be the next  
> script to be executed after /etc.rc2.d/S19firestarter, but I couldn't  
> see anything. I just added
>
> read
>
> at the beginning of that script. Is that what you were suggesting? The  
> gdm screen came up and blocked my view of the scrolling text. When I  
> switched to tty1 I just saw these lines
>
That is what I was suggesting.  But I guess my suggestion didn't work...
And yes, a "read" statement in bash is like a "pause" statement in DOS
batch.

If your firewall script references an IP address (which you don't have
when the network is down), I think it needs the network to be up in
order to run.  

If the script only references the interface (eth0, for
example) it might run even if the network is down, as long as the kernel
is aware of eth0's existence.  But I'm not sure how wicd affects this.
I think your /etc/network/interfaces file will not have anything besides
the loopback device listed.

-Rob


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Re: scrollbar on left side

2010-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/23/2010 06:44 AM, lee wrote:

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:15:52AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Vi, 22 oct 10, 01:25:28, lee wrote:

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:34:49PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 10/21/2010 03:48 PM, lee wrote:


On a side note: Someone once asked me why the text is moving up when
you move the scrollbar down. Where´s the logic in that? Why isn´t the
text moving up together with the scroll bar?


Take a piece of construction paper and cut a 2mm slit in it.

Now open a book to the middle and put the construction paper on the
book's page so that you only see the first few lines.

As you pull down the slit, the visible lines appear to move *up* the
slit.


But who´s reading books like that?


We are. Even Superman has to turn pages (he never used his super sight
to just read an entire book at once), so his slit is one page big,
whereas ours is just a few rows big ;)

Even assuming you could comprehend an entire book at once, our
view-angle is limited, so we can only look at a limited part of a big
text at once.


Still we don´t put construction paper with a small slit in it onto the
pages of books we´re reading, and the text on the pages isn´t moving.



Buy a Kindle...

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Re: Ethernet port dead

2010-10-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 23 oct 10, 14:46:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Andrei Popescu  writes:
> 
> > On Sb, 23 oct 10, 11:48:59, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> >> 
> >> `modprobe sis900' gets no output at all; the output of `ifconfig -a' is the
> >> one I sent in the file `ethernet-enquiry.tar.gz'.
> >
> > Hmm, no output usually means no error. Anything new showing in dmesg?
> 
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> http://paste.debian.net/97784/

There are no errors that I can see, but also no activation of eth0 or 
eth1. Also the firewire is gone, did you already try blacklisting it?

If that doesn't work I would recommend starting a new thread with the 
info gathered so far.

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Weirdness in "ls" colorization

2010-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson


Here's a window-shot of some auto-colored files.  Note how one 
directory's flacs are colored green and the other directory's flacs 
are cyan(?).


http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/flac_files.png

My system is a relatively up-to-date Sid, and I've not fiddled with 
the colors.


$ alias dir
alias dir='ls -aFl --time-style=+"%F %T"'

TIA

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Re: KDE Question

2010-10-23 Thread deloptes
Andrei Popescu wrote:

> 
> Considering that the life expectancy of squeeze is ~3 years IMHO it
> would have been wrong to stay with 3.5. Having both would be ideal, but
> the KDE team lacks manpower.

which kde team - the kde - kde team or the debian kde team. Nevertheless the
people who pushed kde into distros are responsible for providing working
applications.

regards


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Re: Weirdness in "ls" colorization

2010-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/23/2010 11:52 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:


Here's a window-shot of some auto-colored files. Note how one
directory's flacs are colored green and the other directory's flacs are
cyan(?).

http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/flac_files.png

My system is a relatively up-to-date Sid, and I've not fiddled with the
colors.

$ alias dir
alias dir='ls -aFl --time-style=+"%F %T"'



Never mind.  I just noticed that the x bit was set on the green files.

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Re: KDE Question

2010-10-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 23 oct 10, 18:53:52, deloptes wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> 
> > Considering that the life expectancy of squeeze is ~3 years IMHO it
> > would have been wrong to stay with 3.5. Having both would be ideal, but
> > the KDE team lacks manpower.
> 
> which kde team - the kde - kde team or the debian kde team.

The Debian KDE Team.

>  Nevertheless the
> people who pushed kde into distros are responsible for providing working
> applications.

Of course they are, in direct proportion to the money you are paying to 
use their work ;-)

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Re: Weirdness in "ls" colorization

2010-10-23 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:
>
> Here's a window-shot of some auto-colored files.  Note how one directory's
> flacs are colored green and the other directory's flacs are cyan(?).
>
> http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/flac_files.png
>
> My system is a relatively up-to-date Sid, and I've not fiddled with the
> colors.
>
> $ alias dir
> alias dir='ls -aFl --time-style=+"%F %T"'

The "Please..." files are executable.


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Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
ow...@netptc.net put forth on 10/22/2010 8:15 PM:

> Actually Amdahl's Law IS a law of diminishing returns but is intended
> to be applied to hardware, not software.  The usual application is to
> compute the degree to which adding another processor increases the
> processing power of the system
> Larry

You are is absolutely incorrect.  Amdahl's law is specific to algorithm
scalability.  It has little to do specifically with classic
multiprocessing.  Case in point:

If one has a fairly heavy floating point application but it requires a
specific scalar operation be performed in the loop along with every FP
OP, say a counter increase of an integer register or similar, one could
take this application from his/er 2 GHz single core x86 processor
platform and run it on one processor of an NEC SX8 vector supercomputer
system, which has a wide 8 pipe vector unit--16 Gflop/s peak vs 4
Gflop/s peak for the x86 chip.

Zero scalability would be achieved, even though the floating point
hardware is over 4 times more powerful.  Note no additional processors
were added.  We simply moved the algorithm to a machine with a massively
parallel vector FP unit.  In this case it's even more interesting
because the scalar unit in the SX8 runs at 1 GHz, even though the 8 pipe
vector unit runs at 2 GHz.

So, this floating point algorithm would actually run _slower_ on the SX8
due to the scalar component of the app limiting execution time due to
the 1 GHz scalar unit.  (This is typical of vector supercomputer
processors--Cray did the same thing for years, running the vector units
faster than the scalar units, because the vast bulk of the code run on
these systems was truly, massively, floating point specific, with little
scalar code.)

This is the type of thing Gene Amdahl had in mind when postulating his
theory, not necessarily multiprocessing specifically, but all forms or
processing in which a portion of the algorithm could be broken up to run
in parallel, regardless of what the parallel hardware might be.  One of
the few applications that can truly be nearly infinitely parallelized is
graphics rendering.  Note I said rendering, not geometry.

When attempting to parallelize the geometry calculations in the 3D
pipeline we run squarely into Amdahl's brick wall.  This is why
nVidia/AMD have severe problems getting multi GPU (SLI/Xfire)
performance to scale anywhere close to linearly.  It's impossible to
take the 3D scene and split the geometry calculations evenly between
GPUs, because vertices overlap across the portions of the frame buffer
for which each GPU is responsible.  Thus, for every overlapping vertice,
it must be sent to both GPUs adjacent to the boundary.  For this reason,
adding multiple GPUs to a system yields a vastly diminishing return on
investment.  Each additional GPU creates one more frame buffer boundary.
 When you go from two screen regions to 3, you double the amount of
geometry processing the "middle" GPU has to perform, because he now has
two neighbor GPUs.

The only scenario where 3 or 4 GPUs makes any kind of sense for ROI is
with multiple monitors, at insanely high screen resolutions and color
depths, with maximum AA/AF and multisampling.  These operations are
almost entirely raster ops, and as mentioned before, raster pixel
operations can be nearly linearly scaled on parallel hardware.

Again, Amdahl's law applies to algorithm scalability, not classic CPU
multiprocessing.

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Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 10/22/2010 8:48 PM:

> Bah, humbug.
> 
> Instead of a quad-core at lower GHz, I just got my wife a dual-core at
> higher speed.

Not to mention the fact that for desktop use 2 higher clocked cores will
yield faster application performance (think of the single threaded Flash
hog and Slashdot jscript) than 4 lower freq cores.  They also suck _far_
less power than a quad core (45-65w vs 95-115w avg AMD), and cost
significantly less.  Fewer cores equals _more_ performance for less
money (purchase price and electrical $$)?  What?  Yep. :)

I built a new desktop for the folks last year based on a 2.8 GHz Athlon
II X2 (Regor).  The CPU was something like $80 from Newegg.  At the time
the least expensive AMD quad core was between $150-200 IIRC and ran
significantly hotter, 65w vs. 115w.  It's running WinXP, FF, TB, etc,
and they love it.  So quiet you can't hear the fans, period, but it has
great front/back airflow, none of that front, side, top, back fan
idiocy--used an Apevia gamer case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144140

As with likely many folks here, for most servers I prefer a higher count
of slower cores.  My servers are all about multi user throughput--few
single processes ever come close to eating up all of a core.  If one
process does decide to hog a core, other users don't suffer as they
might on a dual core server, as there are 3 or 7 more available cores
for the scheduler to make use of.

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Re: change in behavior of iptables with respect to firestarter

2010-10-23 Thread Gilbert Sullivan

On 10/23/2010 12:15 PM, Rob Owens wrote:

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:53:33AM -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:


Starting Network connection manager: wicd.
startpar: service(s) returned failure: firestarter ... failed!
Running scripts in rc2.d/ took xx seconds.


Ah, you're using wicd.  For each network connection, click on the
"scripts" button.  Tell it to run firestarter when the connection is
activated.  (Ideally you'd want it to run *before* the connection is
activated, but it sounds like that isn't going to work based on your
experiences).


Okay, this is interesting. I just opened wicd and tried configuring it 
to run firestarter. I clicked on the Scripts button and was presented 
with a password prompt. I entered the root password, and I saw the mouse 
cursor switch to its busy graphic, and then it went back to the normal 
cursor -- with no dialog coming up to specify a script. That's surely 
not a design intention. (Reminds me of the little black boxes with a 
tiny switch on the top. You moved the switch, the box started making odd 
noises, the lid would lift, a little hand would come out to shove the 
switch back to off, the hand would withdraw into the box, and the lid 
would snap shut.)


Should I try manually editing the wicd startup script? I'm concerned 
that my efforts in that area may have undesired consequences if they 
aren't performed properly. I'm not worried about screwing it up so that 
it won't run. That would be easy enough to fix by restoring the script 
to its initial state. What I'm worried about is the possibility of 
messing up the way the script works in respect to its behaviors for some 
or all of the various conditions that I see the firestarter scripts 
specifying. I wouldn't want to compromise the security of the 
configuration unawares.


On a related note, if I can get firestarter called successfully from the 
script that starts wicd, would it be a good idea to remove the init.d 
call to the firestarter script? Am I correct in assuming that would be 
accomplished merely by removing the /etc/rc2.d/S19firestarter file?


...


I tried editing /etc/rc2.d/S19kerneloops, which seems to be the next
script to be executed after /etc.rc2.d/S19firestarter, but I couldn't
see anything. I just added

read

at the beginning of that script. Is that what you were suggesting? The
gdm screen came up and blocked my view of the scrolling text. When I
switched to tty1 I just saw these lines


That is what I was suggesting.  But I guess my suggestion didn't work...
And yes, a "read" statement in bash is like a "pause" statement in DOS
batch.


Thank you for that. This conversation is proving to me that I really 
should get off my figurative duff and start studying this new (to me) 
operating system. I've used computers every day since the early 60s, but 
they were always the systems WITH which I did my work rather than the 
system ON which I did my work -- if you get my meaning. Even given that, 
I had to learn a lot more about the earlier computing systems because I 
had to in order to make them do what I wanted. Oddly enough, coming to 
GNU/Linux has been like a vacation in comparison, despite the common 
sentiment that it's a tough operating system to use. These are just our 
personal systems, and everything we have used has "just worked". I've 
had to read a few man files from time-to-time, and I've even made a 
couple of bug reports, but it has been easy street compared to my 
travails on systems like Windows where getting precise information about 
how something works in the background isn't always very easy. (If it's 
hard in GNU/Linux, it's just because the system is complex or because 
there's some missing documentation, not because someone is trying to 
protect IP "rights".) This seems all very logical, if a little maze-like 
at times.



If your firewall script references an IP address (which you don't have
when the network is down), I think it needs the network to be up in
order to run.

If the script only references the interface (eth0, for
example) it might run even if the network is down, as long as the kernel
is aware of eth0's existence.  But I'm not sure how wicd affects this.
I think your /etc/network/interfaces file will not have anything besides
the loopback device listed.

-Rob


It appears to me that the script is only referencing the interface, but 
that's only a guess from a cursory inspection. I haven't looked through 
all of the referenced files and environment settings to be certain.


It appears that you've determined essentially what my problem is. If I 
can find out how to cause wicd to make the firestarter script run 
without causing unwanted side effects I think I should have a solution 
for my problem.


I'll muddle this over and do some experiments to see what happens.

Thank you very much,
Gilbert


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Re: rfcomm does not work - always NO pairing with my Nokia 6230i

2010-10-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 17:30:04 +0200, Reginaldo Stückner wrote:

> Programm does NOT work :-(

Mmmm... well, and have you checked the logs or tried to connect to 
another device?
 
> as decribed on this page :
> 
> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting#findpkgver
> 
> i hope now, YOU have ALL the necessary informations ?

(...)

The above are instructions for filling a bug in Debian BTS (bug tracking 
system). But this is a user to user list so people here can give you some 
advice or tips to help you with your problem but usually not a definitive 
answer :-)

(...)

> BUT if using a LIVE-CD, Ubuntu 9.04, on the same computer, i have a
> bluetooth icon on top and can decide, please use - 1234 - as the
> password and
> 
> IT WORKS ! PAIRING is made !
> 
> So W H Y  is it in Debian NOT working ? ? ?

Because Debian is not Ubuntu? :-)
 
> I am searching since a few days for a solution, but the guy from :
> 
> http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=124220&p=794131#p794131
> 
> had until now no idea what i can do :-(
> 
> So can i help YOU to correct this ?
> 
> Please tell me WHAT to do or WHAT to try !

Start by telling what Debian version are you using (lenny, squeeze, 
sid...), what desktop (GNOEM, KDE...), what are the steps you are 
following to connect to your phone via BT and what are you trying to 
achieve ("rfcomm" is a protocol for using your BT devices as a serial 
modem).

Greetings,

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Re: change in behavior of iptables with respect to firestarter

2010-10-23 Thread Gilbert Sullivan

Post Script to Previous Message:

The failure of the Scripts button to bring up anything led me to 
deliberately try entering the  wrong password, and that got me a modal 
dialog:


--8<---
Failed to run /usr/share/wicd/gtk/configscript.py 'ourplace' 'wired' as 
user root.


The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run 
this program. Contact the system administrator.

--8<---

(ourplace being the name of the home network) So I ran that command from 
within the terminal, like so


# /usr/share/wicd/gtk/configscript.py 'ourplace' 'wired'
/usr/share/wicd/gtk/configscript.py:159: GtkWarning: 
gtk_toolbar_set_icon_size: assertion `icon_size != 
GTK_ICON_SIZE_INVALID' failed

  wTree = gtk.glade.XML(gladefile)

I'm used to seeing the odd GtkWarning in stdout when running GUI apps 
from the terminal since I use ssh -X sessions a lot. And the effort does 
result in presentation of a "Configure Scripts" dialog with four fields 
and the ubiquitous Cancel / OK buttons. The fields are:


Pre-connection Script
Post-connection Script
Pre-disconnection Script
Post-disconnection Script

I'm guessing I should try to run firestarter in the Pre-connection 
Script field first, and then fall back to using the Post-connection 
Script field if Pre-connection fails.


Now I just have to decide which of the firestarter scripts it makes the 
most sense to use in this case. I'm guessing from the order in which 
things appear in the output seen in tty1 that the firestarter script 
will most likely have to run post-connection?


I've manually started firestarter successfully after login with both of 
the following:


# /etc/init.d/firestarter start

# /etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh start

I'm guessing the second one, which seems to check on a bunch of 
conditions before launching the application, would be the safest (as in 
closest to intentions of the developers) one to use. Would you have any 
suggestions, or should I just start plonking away?


Thanks again,
Gilbert


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Re: Stopping sound preview

2010-10-23 Thread Mark Allums

Nautilus.  How counterintuitive.  To me, anyway.  I should have realized.




is there any more intuitive GDM ?


Oh, I don't know.  The point is not that this one or that one is better 
than the other, it's that this one could be improved a little.  Or maybe 
I'm just not very savvy about GUI desktops.




I never used GDM, but I wonder how a *dm could be counterintuitive...



I always felt that most settings of a GUI desktop should be collected 
under a "control panel".  GNOME does this fairly well with the "System" 
menu, but it still categorizes things in ways different from what I 
would choose.  Example:  'System | Preferences | File Management', to 
decide that I don't want to hear sound when hovering over an icon, or 
'System | Preferences | File Management' and not 'System | Preferences | 
Preferred Applications' to choose default application for opening files. 
 Indeed, 'System | Preferences | Preferred Applications' seems 
redundant to me now that I come to think about it, especially since 
choosing a setting with it seems to have no effect whatsoever on my 
system, anyway.



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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Scarletdown
On 10/23/10, Rob Owens  wrote:
> As a proof of concept, I made a short clip from the youtube video.  See
> if this plays ok.  It's xvid and mp3 formats.  VLC should handle it.
>
> -Rob
>
> I downloaded the file, and ffmpeg tells me it's h264 video and libfaad
> audio.  Perhaps youtube converted it when you uploaded?

Your test clip worked fine on the system that was having problems
before.  I noticed the video quality was extremely low though.  But I
am guessing that you did it that way just for expediency.

As for YouTube converting the video after uploading, I am sure that
does happen.  However, I have this problem with my original captures
before they get sent to the Tube as well.  Here are a three sample
non-YouTubeized files:


Raw, freshly captured unprocessed in any way shape or form mpeg...
This was saved instantly after capturing.

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/Scarletdown/Animations/?action=view¤t=Just-Ducky-Sample-Clip-02.mp4


A short sample that was made with Kino after being captured with WinDVR

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/Scarletdown/Animations/?action=view¤t=Just-Ducky-Detroit-Rock-City-Sample-1.mp4


A full length piece that was also put together via Kino

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/Scarletdown/Animations/?action=view¤t=DDR-DG-Davy-Crockett.mp4


And lastly, running mediainfo on a couple of the files gave this:

For the Small World clip:

Format   : MPEG-PS
File size: 41.1 MiB
Duration : 45s 0ms
Overall bit rate : 7 658 Kbps

Video
ID   : 224 (0xE0)
Format   : MPEG Video
Format version   : Version 2
Format profile   : m...@main
Format settings, BVOP: Yes
Format settings, Matrix  : Default
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
Duration : 44s 845ms
Bit rate mode: Variable
Bit rate : 7 281 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 11.1 Mbps
Width: 720 pixels
Height   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate   : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space  : YUV
Chroma subsampling   : 4:2:0
Bit depth: 8 bits
Scan type: Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)   : 0.703
Stream size  : 38.9 MiB (95%)

Audio
ID   : 192 (0xC0)
Format   : MPEG Audio
Format version   : Version 1
Format profile   : Layer 2
Duration : 45s 0ms
Bit rate mode: Constant
Bit rate : 224 Kbps
Channel(s)   : 2 channels
Sampling rate: 48.0 KHz
Video delay  : -9ms
Stream size  : 1.20 MiB (3%)


For the Detroit Rock City clip:

Format   : MPEG-PS
File size: 16.4 MiB
Duration : 35s 880ms
Overall bit rate : 3 827 Kbps

Video
ID   : 224 (0xE0)
Format   : MPEG Video
Format version   : Version 2
Format profile   : m...@main
Format settings, BVOP: No
Format settings, Matrix  : Default
Duration : 35s 836ms
Bit rate mode: Variable
Bit rate : 3 687 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 4 000 Kbps
Width: 720 pixels
Height   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate   : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space  : YUV
Chroma subsampling   : 4:2:0
Bit depth: 8 bits
Scan type: Interlaced
Scan order   : Bottom Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)   : 0.356
Stream size  : 15.8 MiB (96%)

Audio
ID   : 192 (0xC0)
Format   : MPEG Audio
Format version   : Version 1
Format profile   : Layer 2
Duration : 35s 880ms
Bit rate mode: Constant
Bit rate : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s)   : 2 channels
Sampling rate: 48.0 KHz
Stream size  : 280 KiB (2%)


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how to make the console not blank out and change resolution?

2010-10-23 Thread jidanni
Allow me to ask a stupid question.

Somewhere near this point in the dmesg messages, the console blanks and
becomes a different resolution.

[   8.135936] Marking TSC unstable due to TSC halts in idle
[   8.137762] processor LNXCPU:00: registered as cooling_device0
[   8.144690] Switching to clocksource acpi_pm
[   8.223513] input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input5
[   8.754683] i801_smbus :00:1f.3: PCI INT B -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 11 
(level, low) -> IRQ 11
[   8.768920] pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
[   8.853142] shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
[   8.872591] intel_rng: FWH not detected
[   9.160625] IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3

All I know is it happens around the time /etc/rcS.d/S02udev is run.

How do I temporarily not make this console blanking not occur?

You see, when that happens, whatever that was on the screen goes away.
Nor was most of what was on the screen at that point stored in dmesg or
in any /var/log/* file, not can it be ShiftPgUp'ed to anymore.

So I would like to stop the blanking just one time to get a look at what
was on the screen at that point.

Reading http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.html.en , I
tried adding fb=false to the boot parameters. However I see in dmesg the
frame buffer still there. Well they ought to correct that. Let's see
what else I can try.

I added "blacklist drm" in /etc/modprobe.d/* but that is ignored too.
Apparently that is for later items, not stuff so early in the boot
process.

I tried to make the /etc/init.d scripts not run in parallel, so that
debugging messages I put in them would reveal just which one is the
blanking the screen culprit. But of course how to not make them run in
parallel is a big mystery, despite the insserv man page.
dpkg-reconfigure what package? initscripts:no, insserv:no.

On my desktop, blanking does not occur, only on my laptops.

Let's see, maybe if I turned off one of these:
7 matches for "drm" in buffer: kernel-parameters.txt.gz
 46:DRM Direct Rendering Management support is enabled.
793:gamma=  [HW,DRM]
886:i810=   [HW,DRM]
   1413:mga=[HW,DRM]
   2094:r128=   [HW,DRM]
   2514:tdfx=   [HW,DRM]
   2786:Add more DRM drivers.
However as there is nary a word about how to use these parameters there
in that document, one dares not experiment. Maybe on the boot line I
just do gamma=false i810=false mga=false r128=false tdfx=false ?
But judging from what happened when I did fb=false, I think that
wouldn't work either.


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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/23/2010 04:17 AM, Scarletdown wrote:

I'm having some problems with videos I have made from an external USB
capture device.  One Linux machine I am testing on fails to play the
music from the videos.  Instead, I get a bunch of high pitched static.

The captures were done on a Windows machine with WinDVR (it's highly
doubtful that this capture device has any *NIX drivers), which
defaults to mpeg video and mp2 audio apparently, with no obvious way
to save to any other format.

Here is one of the videos I made:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5XJYgfQk5I

It plays fine on the 2 Windows boxes I tested it on, as well as on one
Debian box.  However, the other Debian box (and the Wii via the
Internet channel) fail to play the sound.  I'm sure the problem is in
the file itself and not the machines that it failed on, but I have no
idea where to begin troubleshooting,



Are the two Debian boxes "the same"?  I.e., both up-to-date 
{Stable|Testing|Sid} with the same libraries installed?


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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Scarletdown
On 10/23/10, Scarletdown  wrote:
> On 10/23/10, Ron Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> Are the two Debian boxes "the same"?  I.e., both up-to-date
>> {Stable|Testing|Sid} with the same libraries installed?
>>
Hardwarewise, they are different in many ways.  For their OS builds,
they are both running kernel 2.6.32-3-686.  I have no idea any more
what the various libraries are that they have installed.

But, I am quite convinced that the problem is with the format these
files are using, as I get the same problem when trying to view them
with the Nintendo Wii on the Internet Channel (video but high pitched
garbled sound, yet other peoples' videos run fine).  And I also
recently received a complaint from an uncle on FaceBook that the
videos aren't playing right for him either.  Same symptoms.  And I
highly doubt that he would be running anything other than Windows.

Now I am thinking I should have picked up that rubber chicken I saw at
Goodwill a couple days ago to wave it over the systems and do a little
ancient chant.  :/


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Re: problems with USB disk

2010-10-23 Thread lee
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:27:27PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 02:49:10 +0200, lee wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 03:36:44PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> >> On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:07:09 +0200, lee wrote:
> >> 
> >> > I´m having trouble copying files for backup purposes to an USB disk
> >> > with rsync. Copying the files sometimes fails with "Input/output
> >> > error (5)", and I´m getting messages in the syslog like these:
> >> 
> >> (...)
> >> 
> >> > [128627.397894] EXT4-fs error (device sdf3):> __ext4_get_inode_loc:
> >> > unable to read inode block - inode=52298807, block=209191011
> >> 
> >> That looks like a filesystem error/corruption. Did you fsck-it?
> > 
> > I´ve had this two or three times before when the disk was connected to
> > an USB 3.0 controller. (It´s an USB 3.0 capable enclosure.) Last time
> > when there were copying errors, the disk was connected to the USB 3.0
> > controller. Umount and sync would just hang indefinitely. When I tried
> > to rmmod the xhci module, the computer froze :(
> 
> Have you tested the unit with another computer? Just in case...

No, I don´t really have one I could test it with.

> OTOH, what USB drive is this (brand and model)? :-?

I don´t remember, and I don´t have the package anymore. The enclosure
has a label on it that says "airy".

> (...)
> 
> > If the cable or the enclosure were defective, could I sometimes write
> > about 650GB without problems and sometimes not? I leave the USB cable
> > plugged in, so no changes between working/failing there.
> > 
> > Perhaps the best way is to get a new USB 3.0 cable and do some testing
> > on this disk ...
> 
> I see. It's an embedded USB disk enclosure that does not allow to extract 
> the disk without removing guarantee and all that annoyances. That's why I 
> avoid these devices (I prefer buying the USB case and hard disk separated 
> with external power supply) :-(

It does have an external power supply. I also prefer to choose an
enclosure, but I needed an USB disk fast when I bought it ... I even
expected it to fail soon.

> Well, read the manufacturer's specs for the unit (file system format 
> support) and check it with another computer using one of the supported 
> formatting options (better yet, ext3 if available) to see what happens. 
> If you are still facing the same problems, just RMA the drive.

Well, look at this:


r...@yun:/mnt# mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdf3
mke2fs 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
[...]
r...@yun:/mnt# sync
r...@yun:/mnt# sync
r...@yun:/mnt# sync
r...@yun:/mnt# fsck /dev/sdf3
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
/dev/sdf3: sauber, 11/89440256 Dateien, 5664101/357759517 Blöcke
r...@yun:/mnt# mount /dev/sdf3 usb-ext4/
r...@yun:/mnt# cd usb-ext4/
r...@yun:/mnt/usb-ext4# ls -la
insgesamt 24
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 23. Okt 16:01 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 11. Okt 16:09 ..
drwx-- 2 root root 16384 23. Okt 16:01 lost+found
r...@yun:/mnt/usb-ext4# mkdir gen-00
r...@yun:/mnt/usb-ext4# mkdir gen-01
r...@yun:/mnt/usb-ext4# cd ..
r...@yun:/mnt# umount usb-ext4/
r...@yun:/mnt# fsck /dev/sdf3
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
/dev/sdf3: sauber, 13/89440256 Dateien, 5664103/357759517 Blöcke
r...@yun:/mnt# fsck -f /dev/sdf3
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
Durchgang 1: Prüfe Inodes, Blocks, und Größen
Durchgang 2: Prüfe Verzeichnis Struktur
Durchgang 3: Prüfe Verzeichnis Verknüpfungen
Durchgang 4: Überprüfe die Referenzzähler
Durchgang 5: Überprüfe Gruppe Zusammenfassung
Lesefehler - Block 341835776 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in 
short read) während lese Inode und Block bitmaps. Ignoriere Fehler? ja

Rückschreiben erzwingen? ja

Block Bitmap differieren:  +(341835776--341843999)
Repariere? ja


/dev/sdf3: * DATEISYSTEM WURDE VERÄNDERT *
/dev/sdf3: 13/89440256 Dateien (0.0% nicht zusammenhängend), 5664103/357759517 
Blöcke


[69303.513244] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] Unhandled sense code
[69303.513253] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08
[69303.513263] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] Sense Key : 0x3 [current] 
[69303.513272] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] ASC=0x11 ASCQ=0x0
[69303.513280] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] CDB: cdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 a7 10 96 55 00 00 08 
00
[69303.513297] end_request: I/O error, dev sdf, sector 2802882133
[69303.513308] Buffer I/O error on device sdf3, logical block 683671552
[69303.513318] Buffer I/O error on device sdf3, logical block 683671553
[69306.841513] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] Unhandled sense code
[69306.841522] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08
[69306.841531] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] Sense Key : 0x3 [current] 
[69306.841540] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] ASC=0x11 ASCQ=0x0
[69306.841547] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdf] CDB: cdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 a7 10 96 55 00 00 08 
00
[69306.841563] end_request: I/O error, dev sdf, sector 2802882133
[69306.841573] Buffer I/O error on device sdf3, logical block 683671552
[69306.841583] Buffer I/O error on device sdf3, logical block 683671553


r...@y

Re: how to make the console not blank out and change resolution?

2010-10-23 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun, 2010-10-24 at 02:52 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> Allow me to ask a stupid question.
> 
> Somewhere near this point in the dmesg messages, the console blanks and
> becomes a different resolution.
> 
> [   8.135936] Marking TSC unstable due to TSC halts in idle
> [   8.137762] processor LNXCPU:00: registered as cooling_device0
> [   8.144690] Switching to clocksource acpi_pm
> [   8.223513] input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input5
> [   8.754683] i801_smbus :00:1f.3: PCI INT B -> Link[LNKB] -> GSI 11 
> (level, low) -> IRQ 11
> [   8.768920] pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
> [   8.853142] shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
> [   8.872591] intel_rng: FWH not detected
> [   9.160625] IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3
> 
> All I know is it happens around the time /etc/rcS.d/S02udev is run.
> 
> How do I temporarily not make this console blanking not occur?
> 
> You see, when that happens, whatever that was on the screen goes away.
> Nor was most of what was on the screen at that point stored in dmesg or
> in any /var/log/* file, not can it be ShiftPgUp'ed to anymore.
> 
> So I would like to stop the blanking just one time to get a look at what
> was on the screen at that point.
> 
> Reading http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.html.en , I
> tried adding fb=false to the boot parameters. However I see in dmesg the
> frame buffer still there. Well they ought to correct that. Let's see
> what else I can try.
> 
> I added "blacklist drm" in /etc/modprobe.d/* but that is ignored too.
> Apparently that is for later items, not stuff so early in the boot
> process.
> 
> I tried to make the /etc/init.d scripts not run in parallel, so that
> debugging messages I put in them would reveal just which one is the
> blanking the screen culprit. But of course how to not make them run in
> parallel is a big mystery, despite the insserv man page.
> dpkg-reconfigure what package? initscripts:no, insserv:no.
> 
> On my desktop, blanking does not occur, only on my laptops.
> 
> Let's see, maybe if I turned off one of these:
> 7 matches for "drm" in buffer: kernel-parameters.txt.gz
>  46:  DRM Direct Rendering Management support is enabled.
> 793:  gamma=  [HW,DRM]
> 886:  i810=   [HW,DRM]
>1413:  mga=[HW,DRM]
>2094:  r128=   [HW,DRM]
>2514:  tdfx=   [HW,DRM]
>2786:  Add more DRM drivers.
> However as there is nary a word about how to use these parameters there
> in that document, one dares not experiment. Maybe on the boot line I
> just do gamma=false i810=false mga=false r128=false tdfx=false ?
> But judging from what happened when I did fb=false, I think that
> wouldn't work either.

I have been wanting to try and stop this too but haven't had a chance to
look into it. I want the screen resolution to honour the setting from
grub but at some point it blanks and changes to 1024x768 during boot-up.
I don't mind that at times but when I am reading I prefer 800x600 as is
set in grub.cfg.

Please post anything you find.. :)


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I have a boot error. concerning not finding acl.end

2010-10-23 Thread Bill Nickels

The system continues to boot without errors and no indications of problems. 
Linux debianhp 2.6.32-5-amd64. Squeeze.dmesg doesn't reference it
  

Re: KDE Question

2010-10-23 Thread deloptes
Andrei Popescu wrote:

> 
> Of course they are, in direct proportion to the money you are paying to
> use their work ;-)
> 

no reason for being sarcastic. I'm experienced user and I can make rational
decisions after getharing information, but there are so many people who use
what they get.

It's also not about the money, it's about mess! If you are getting f**king
stupid decisions there is no guarantee you are going to change it if you
get payed.

Above all I thought debian is getting support from k/ubuntu but as far as I
know ubuntu also lacks kde maintainers.

Me personally I don't mind. I think I'll upgrade either later or I'll use
trinity (which I've already installed in sqeeze and started testing).

regards


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Re: I have a boot error. concerning not finding acl.end

2010-10-23 Thread Thilo Six
Bill Nickels wrote the following on 23.10.2010 21:36

> The system continues to boot without errors and no indications of problems. 
> Linux debianhp 2.6.32-5-amd64. Squeeze.dmesg doesn't reference it

http://bugs.debian.org/600446

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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/23/2010 02:09 PM, Scarletdown wrote:

On 10/23/10, Scarletdown  wrote:

On 10/23/10, Ron Johnson  wrote:


Are the two Debian boxes "the same"?  I.e., both up-to-date
{Stable|Testing|Sid} with the same libraries installed?


Hardwarewise, they are different in many ways.  For their OS builds,
they are both running kernel 2.6.32-3-686.


That's not really what I asked.


   I have no idea any more
what the various libraries are that they have installed.



COLUMNS=160 dpkg -l | cut -c5-39 | grep ^lib


But, I am quite convinced that the problem is with the format these
files are using, as I get the same problem when trying to view them
with the Nintendo Wii on the Internet Channel (video but high pitched
garbled sound, yet other peoples' videos run fine).  And I also
recently received a complaint from an uncle on FaceBook that the
videos aren't playing right for him either.  Same symptoms.  And I
highly doubt that he would be running anything other than Windows.



It's all about the libraries...

Do you have http://www.debian-multimedia.org in your sources.list?

Do you have libfaad2 installed on the static-playing machine?

$ COLUMNS=160 dpkg -l | cut -c5-39 | grep ^lib | grep faad
libfaad2

$ apt-cache policy libfaad2
libfaad2:
  Installed: 2.7-4
  Candidate: 2.7-4
  Version table:
 *** 2.7-4 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status



Now I am thinking I should have picked up that rubber chicken I saw at
Goodwill a couple days ago to wave it over the systems and do a little
ancient chant.  :/




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Re: scrollbar on left side

2010-10-23 Thread Chris Davies
Andreas Weber  wrote:
> And doing GUI programming means that you can do the best you can think
> of and there will always be some smart person knowing it better.

Which is why usability testing is (should be) so important. Preferably
at the prototype/design stage rather than as an afterthought just
before release.

Chris


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Re: restricting number of user logins

2010-10-23 Thread Chris Davies
Mag Gam  wrote:
> Currently we do alot of `rsync -e ssh` to a host.  Is it possible to
> restrict only 5 logins per user on the server?  My goal is to avoid
> having 100s of these sshd processes running on the server which will
> slow it down.

Take a look at /etc/security/limits.conf, specifically the maxlogins
parameter.

Chris


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Re(2): gimp2.0-quiteinsane and gimp ...

2010-10-23 Thread peasthope

*   From: "tv.deb...@googlemail.com" 
*   Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 00:37:38 +0200
> Menu "File > Create > Quite insane" (translated from French menu),

File > Create > QuiteInsane > Scan does just what I need.  Thanks.

> Off course in any case your scanner needs to be properly set up on the
> system.

With the old HP ScanJet IIcx connected by the SCSI cable and 
powered up before the system started, 
  File > Create > QuiteInsane > Select Device 
found the scanner immediately.  The HP LaserJet 1100 printer, 
which also has scanning capability, wasn't detected but the 
ScanJet suffices for now.  If there is advice about the LaserJet 
1100 it might be useful later.

Thanks!   ... Peter E.

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Re: add downloaded program to menu or run it--how?

2010-10-23 Thread Doug

On 10/23/2010 08:39 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:03:17 -0400, Doug wrote:

   

On 10/22/2010 05:25 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 

On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:11:50 -0400, Doug wrote:


   

I have downloaded synaptiks using synaptic package manager.  It shows
up as "installed" but it doesn't show on any menu, and I have no idea
how to run it.  (It disables the scratchpad when an external mouse is
connected.  This is much better than the default mode which only
disables the scratchpad while you are typing.)

 

/snip/

   



***
http://live.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings

Touchpad

 * Disable touchpad
 * Disable tapping and scrolling
 * Disable while any other devices are connect.
   o This options is available only if you use with GNOME.
***

   

/snip/
 


Try with the GNOME settings first or by using "gpointing-device-settings"
app), the option you are looking for should be present and tweakeable.

Greetings,

   

Thank you for this.  It works almost as well as synaptiks,
and will certainly fit my requirements.  (It is not quite as
automatic as synaptiks.)

--doug


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Burning CD stuck on sending CUE sheet

2010-10-23 Thread Steven
Hi list,

I'm using Debian Squeeze (currently up-to-date) and tried to burn an
audio cd using k3b. The burning process freezes at 0% with the message
'Sending CUE sheet', I can tell k3b to abort the process, but that just
causes k3b to lock up completely. I attached part of my kern.log file,
which shows 4 call traces from the cd burning.

Can anyone help me fix this? I remember the same drive working on
windows, so I doubt it's faulty hardware, brasero fails as well.
My motherboard is an MSI P45 Diamond, and the drive is connected with an
ata/ide cable.

All works fine on my laptop. The following line describes the cd drive
(taken from kern.log)
scsi 2:0:1:0: CD-ROMAOPENDUW1616/ARR  1030 PQ: 0
ANSI: 5

Kind regards,
Steven
Oct 23 19:14:01 pc-steven kernel: [   17.805005] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
Oct 23 19:14:51 pc-steven kernel: [   67.466980] sr1: Hmm, seems the drive doesn't support multisession CD's
Oct 23 19:14:51 pc-steven kernel: [   67.738578] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597526] INFO: task hald-addon-stor:1742 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597530] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597532] hald-addon-st D 0020 0  1742   1691 0x
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597537]  f61bd0c0 0082 f7d0fc7d 0020  c1415100 c1415100 c14106ac
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597543]  f61bd27c c3308100 0003 f649bc1c f7d0fd82 f64de190  
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597548]  c33036ac f61bd27c 872a 0400 0078   0400
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597553] Call Trace:
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597574]  [] ? scsi_host_alloc_command+0xf/0x46 [scsi_mod]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597582]  [] ? scsi_get_command+0x5a/0x72 [scsi_mod]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597588]  [] ? schedule_timeout+0x20/0xb0
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597592]  [] ? mod_timer+0x18/0x1e
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597596]  [] ? blk_plug_device+0x4b/0x6d
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597607]  [] ? scsi_request_fn+0x3c1/0x47a [scsi_mod]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597611]  [] ? wait_for_common+0xa4/0x100
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597615]  [] ? default_wake_function+0x0/0x8
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597619]  [] ? blk_execute_rq+0x8b/0xb2
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597623]  [] ? blk_end_sync_rq+0x0/0x23
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597626]  [] ? elv_set_request+0x14/0x22
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597629]  [] ? get_request+0x1b0/0x25b
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597632]  [] ? get_request_wait+0x1a/0x146
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597636]  [] ? remove_wait_queue+0xb/0x2f
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597648]  [] ? scsi_execute+0xce/0x126 [scsi_mod]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597657]  [] ? scsi_execute_req+0x5a/0x81 [scsi_mod]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597662]  [] ? sr_test_unit_ready+0x43/0x9b [sr_mod]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597667]  [] ? sr_media_change+0x46/0x22a [sr_mod]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597672]  [] ? media_changed+0x40/0x6e [cdrom]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597677]  [] ? check_disk_change+0x16/0x3e
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597682]  [] ? cdrom_open+0x811/0x88e [cdrom]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597685]  [] ? cpumask_next_and+0x23/0x33
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597689]  [] ? find_busiest_group+0x2e9/0x6e6
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597693]  [] ? __switch_to+0xcf/0x141
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597697]  [] ? finish_task_switch+0x34/0x95
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597701]  [] ? schedule+0x7a0/0x7dc
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597705]  [] ? __mutex_lock_common+0xef/0x13b
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597708]  [] ? kobject_get+0xf/0x13
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597714]  [] ? sr_block_open+0x66/0x7a [sr_mod]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597717]  [] ? __blkdev_get+0xb0/0x2c7
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597721]  [] ? blkdev_open+0x60/0x8b
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597724]  [] ? __dentry_open+0x156/0x246
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597728]  [] ? nameidata_to_filp+0x29/0x3c
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597730]  [] ? blkdev_open+0x0/0x8b
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597734]  [] ? do_filp_open+0x43f/0x802
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597740]  [] ? cdrom_release+0x17e/0x1c3 [cdrom]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597748]  [] ? scsi_device_put+0x21/0x2e [scsi_mod]
Oct 23 19:23:44 pc-steven kernel: [  600.597751]  [] ? alloc_fd+0x52/0xb7

window selector

2010-10-23 Thread Doug

Is there any way to put the open programs that appear in the
"Window Selector" box onto the bottom panel (the one with the
"shutdown computer" icon) like in other Linuxes and Windows?
If so, how?

--doug


Re: add downloaded program to menu or run it--how?

2010-10-23 Thread Doug

On 10/23/2010 04:46 PM, Doug wrote:

On 10/23/2010 08:39 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:03:17 -0400, Doug wrote:


On 10/22/2010 05:25 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:11:50 -0400, Doug wrote:



I have downloaded synaptiks using synaptic package manager.  It shows
up as "installed" but it doesn't show on any menu, and I have no idea
how to run it.  (It disables the scratchpad when an external mouse is
connected.  This is much better than the default mode which only
disables the scratchpad while you are typing.)


/snip/




***
http://live.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings

Touchpad

 * Disable touchpad
 * Disable tapping and scrolling
 * Disable while any other devices are connect.
   o This options is available only if you use with GNOME.
***


/snip/


Try with the GNOME settings first or by using 
"gpointing-device-settings"

app), the option you are looking for should be present and tweakeable.

Greetings,


Thank you for this.  It works almost as well as synaptiks,
and will certainly fit my requirements.  (It is not quite as
automatic as synaptiks.)

--doug


Replying to my own message:  I installed the program, it seems to work 
for a little while,
and then it forgets, and goes back to using both the scratchpad and the 
mouse at

once.  Comments?
--doug


Re: window selector

2010-10-23 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 23. 10. 2010 22:54:14 je Doug napisal(a):

Is there any way to put the open programs that appear in the
"Window Selector" box onto the bottom panel (the one with the
"shutdown computer" icon) like in other Linuxes and Windows?
If so, how?

--doug


As far as I know, that's the default in Gnome: the bottom panel  
displays a "button" for every application you have open. If you don't  
have that, it should be easy to right-click on the bottom panel and add  
the appropriate applet. If you want all windows from all workspaces to  
be displayed, you just right-click on the panel applet and edit its  
properties accordingly.


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Re: add downloaded program to menu or run it--how?

2010-10-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 17:24:31 -0400, Doug wrote:

> On 10/23/2010 04:46 PM, Doug wrote:
>> On 10/23/2010 08:39 AM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>>> Try with the GNOME settings first or by using
>>> "gpointing-device-settings"
>>> app), the option you are looking for should be present and tweakeable.
>>>
>> Thank you for this.  It works almost as well as synaptiks, and will
>> certainly fit my requirements.  (It is not quite as automatic as
>> synaptiks.)
>>
> Replying to my own message:  I installed the program, it seems to work
> for a little while,
> and then it forgets, and goes back to using both the scratchpad and the
> mouse at
> once.  Comments?

It sounds similar/related to this bug:

gpointing-device-settings: must keep settings over suspend
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=530306

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Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?

2010-10-23 Thread owens
>
>
>
> Original Message 
>From: s...@hardwarefreak.com
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Debian stock kernel config -- CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32?
>Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 12:13:06 -0500
>
>>ow...@netptc.net put forth on 10/22/2010 8:15 PM:
>>
>>> Actually Amdahl's Law IS a law of diminishing returns but is
>intended
>>> to be applied to hardware, not software.  The usual application is
>to
>>> compute the degree to which adding another processor increases the
>>> processing power of the system
>>> Larry
>>
>>You are is absolutely incorrect.  Amdahl's law is specific to
>algorithm
>>scalability.  It has little to do specifically with classic
>>multiprocessing.  Case in point:
>>
>>If one has a fairly heavy floating point application but it requires
>a
>>specific scalar operation be performed in the loop along with every
>FP
>>OP, say a counter increase of an integer register or similar, one
>could
>>take this application from his/er 2 GHz single core x86 processor
>>platform and run it on one processor of an NEC SX8 vector
>supercomputer
>>system, which has a wide 8 pipe vector unit--16 Gflop/s peak vs 4
>>Gflop/s peak for the x86 chip.
>>
>>Zero scalability would be achieved, even though the floating point
>>hardware is over 4 times more powerful.  Note no additional
>processors
>>were added.  We simply moved the algorithm to a machine with a
>massively
>>parallel vector FP unit.  In this case it's even more interesting
>>because the scalar unit in the SX8 runs at 1 GHz, even though the 8
>pipe
>>vector unit runs at 2 GHz.
>>
>>So, this floating point algorithm would actually run _slower_ on the
>SX8
>>due to the scalar component of the app limiting execution time due
>to
>>the 1 GHz scalar unit.  (This is typical of vector supercomputer
>>processors--Cray did the same thing for years, running the vector
>units
>>faster than the scalar units, because the vast bulk of the code run
>on
>>these systems was truly, massively, floating point specific, with
>little
>>scalar code.)
>>
>>This is the type of thing Gene Amdahl had in mind when postulating
>his
>>theory, not necessarily multiprocessing specifically, but all forms
>or
>>processing in which a portion of the algorithm could be broken up to
>run
>>in parallel, regardless of what the parallel hardware might be.  One
>of
>>the few applications that can truly be nearly infinitely
>parallelized is
>>graphics rendering.  Note I said rendering, not geometry.
>>
>>When attempting to parallelize the geometry calculations in the 3D
>>pipeline we run squarely into Amdahl's brick wall.  This is why
>>nVidia/AMD have severe problems getting multi GPU (SLI/Xfire)
>>performance to scale anywhere close to linearly.  It's impossible to
>>take the 3D scene and split the geometry calculations evenly between
>>GPUs, because vertices overlap across the portions of the frame
>buffer
>>for which each GPU is responsible.  Thus, for every overlapping
>vertice,
>>it must be sent to both GPUs adjacent to the boundary.  For this
>reason,
>>adding multiple GPUs to a system yields a vastly diminishing return
>on
>>investment.  Each additional GPU creates one more frame buffer
>boundary.
>> When you go from two screen regions to 3, you double the amount of
>>geometry processing the "middle" GPU has to perform, because he now
>has
>>two neighbor GPUs.
>>
>>The only scenario where 3 or 4 GPUs makes any kind of sense for ROI
>is
>>with multiple monitors, at insanely high screen resolutions and
>color
>>depths, with maximum AA/AF and multisampling.  These operations are
>>almost entirely raster ops, and as mentioned before, raster pixel
>>operations can be nearly linearly scaled on parallel hardware.
>>
>>Again, Amdahl's law applies to algorithm scalability, not classic
>CPU
>>multiprocessing.
>>
>>-- 
>>Stan
>>
>>
Someone once said "a text taken out of context is pretext".  The
original thread concentrated on the potential advantages of adding
CPUs to improve performance and the apparent law of diminishing
return.  I was merely supporting that with the classic law which most
certainly may be applied to coupled multiprocessing.  Disagreements
should be addressed to 
John Hennessy, author "Computer Architecture a Quantitative Approach"
(out of which I teach), in care of the office of the President,
Stanford University
Larry
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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Scarletdown
On 10/23/10, Ron Johnson  wrote:

> Do you have http://www.debian-multimedia.org in your sources.list?

It's there.  Yes

> Do you have libfaad2 installed on the static-playing machine?

libfaad2 is on both systems. (2.7-4)


>
> COLUMNS=160 dpkg -l | cut -c5-39 | grep ^lib
>
>
> It's all about the libraries...
>

I presume that having the right libraries would get it to play on the
Deb box.  However, that would still leave the underlying problem in
place.  These videos should be playable on any system that can play
YouTube videos.  It seems to me that the ideal method would be to
troubleshoot the video files without installing any new libraries on
the computer being used to do the trouble shooting.  I figure that
once the files are fixed to where this one can play them, then they
should work on pretty much any system.  Or is your sage quote about
the libraries indicating that this system would actually be able to
then encode the files properly so that they are playable on any other
system?

Anyway, here is the list of the libraries on both systems:

(Problem child system)

(Warning, ginormous list,  Have no idea what I should have removed
before posting)

liba52-0.7.4
libaa1
libaccess-bridge-java
libaccess-bridge-java-jni
libacl1
libaften0
libalgorithm-diff-perl
libalgorithm-diff-xs-perl
libalgorithm-merge-perl
libanyevent-perl
libao-common
libao2
libao4
libapr1
libaprutil1
libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
libaprutil1-ldap
libarchive1
libart-2.0-2
libartsc0
libasound2
libasound2-plugins
libaspell15
libass4
libast2
libasync-interrupt-perl
libasyncns0
libatasmart4
libatk1-ruby1.8
libatk1.0-0
libatk1.0-data
libattica0
libattr1
libaudio2
libaudiofile0
libaudit0
libavahi-client3
libavahi-common-data
libavahi-common3
libavahi-glib1
libavc1394-0
libavcodec52
libavcore0
libavdevice52
libavfilter0
libavfilter1
libavformat52
libavutil49
libavutil50
libbabl-0.0-0
libbeagle1
libblas3gf
libblkid1
libbluetooth3
libbonobo2-0
libbonobo2-common
libbonoboui2-0
libbonoboui2-common
libboost-iostreams1.40.0
libboost-iostreams1.42.0
libbrasero-media0
libbs2b0
libbsd0
libburn4
libbz2-1.0
libc-bin
libc-dev-bin
libc6
libc6-dev
libc6-i686
libcaca0
libcairo-perl
libcairo-ruby1.8
libcairo2
libcanberra-gtk-module
libcanberra-gtk0
libcanberra0
libcap2
libcddb2
libcdio-cdda0
libcdio-paranoia0
libcdio10
libcdparanoia0
libcdt4
libcelt0-0
libck-connector0
libclamav6
libclucene0ldbl
libcolamd2.7.1
libcomerr2
libcommon-sense-perl
libcommons-beanutils-java
libcommons-collections3-java
libcommons-compress-java
libcommons-digester-java
libcommons-logging-java
libconsole
libcroco3
libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl
libcups2
libcupsimage2
libcurl3
libcurl3-gnutls
libcwidget3
libdatrie1
libdb-je-java
libdb4.6
libdb4.7
libdb4.7-java
libdb4.7-java-gcj
libdb4.8
libdbus-1-3
libdbus-glib-1-2
libdc1394-22
libdca0
libdevkit-power-gobject1
libdevmapper1.02.1
libdigest-sha1-perl
libdirac-decoder0
libdirac-encoder0
libdirectfb-1.2-0
libdirectfb-1.2-9
libdjvulibre-text
libdjvulibre21
libdmx1
libdpkg-perl
libdrm-intel1
libdrm-nouveau1
libdrm-radeon1
libdrm2
libdv4
libdvbpsi5
libdvbpsi6
libdvdcss2
libdvdnav4
libdvdread4
libebml0
libecore-con-svn-05
libecore-con-svn-06
libecore-evas-svn-05
libecore-evas-svn-06
libecore-fb-svn-05
libecore-fb-svn-06
libecore-file-svn-05
libecore-file-svn-06
libecore-imf-svn-05
libecore-imf-svn-06
libecore-input-svn-05
libecore-input-svn-06
libecore-ipc-svn-05
libecore-ipc-svn-06
libecore-job-svn-05
libecore-svn-05
libecore-svn-06
libecore-txt-svn-05
libecore-x-svn-05
libecore-x-svn-06
libedbus-svn-05
libedbus-svn-06
libedit2
libedje-bin
libedje-svn-05
libedje-svn-06
libeet1
libefreet-svn-05
libefreet-svn-06
libeggdbus-1-0
libeina-svn-05
libeina-svn-06
libelf1
libembryo-bin
libembryo0
libenca0
libenchant1c2a
libept0
libept1
liberror-perl
libesd0
libestraier8
libevas-svn-05
libevas-svn-06
libevas-svn-06-engines-core
libevas-svn-06-engines-x
libevent-execflow-perl
libevent-perl
libevent-rpc-perl
libexempi3
libexif12
libexiv2-6
libexiv2-9
libexpat1
libfaac0
libfaad2
libfam0
libffado2
libffi5
libfftw3-3
libfile-copy-recursive-perl
libfile-temp-perl
libflac++6
libflac8
libfltk1.1
libfm-gtk0
libfm0
libfont-afm-perl
libfont-freetype-perl
libfontconfig1
libfontenc1
libfreetype6
libfribidi0
libfs6
libfsplib0
libfuse2
libgail18
libgamin0
libgcc1
libgcj-bc
libgcj-common
libgcj10
libgconf2-4
libgcr0
libgcrypt11
libgd2-noxpm
libgdbm3
libgdk-pixbuf2-ruby1.8
libgdu0
libgegl-0.0-0
libgettext-ruby1.8
libgfortran3
libggi-target-x
libggi2
libggiwmh0
libggiwmh0-target-x
libgif4
libgii1
libgii1-target-x
libgimp2.0
libgirepository1.0-0
libgksu2-0
libgl1-mesa-dri
libgl1-mesa-glx
libglade2-0
libglib-perl
libglib2-ruby1.8
libglib2.0-0
libglib2.0-data
libglibmm-2.4-1c2a
libglu1-mesa
libgmime-2.4-2
libgmp3c2
libgnome-desktop-2-11
libgnome-desktop-2-17
libgnome-keyring0
libgnome2-0
libgnome2-canvas-perl
libgnome2-common
libgnome2-perl
libgnome2-vfs-perl
libgnomecanvas2-0
libgnomecanvas2-common
libgnomecups1.0-1
libgnomeprint2.2-0
libgnomeprintui2.2-0
libgnomeui-0
libgnomeui-co

Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 04:22:24PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> I presume that having the right libraries would get it to play on the
> Deb box.  However, that would still leave the underlying problem in
> place.  These videos should be playable on any system that can play
> YouTube videos.  It seems to me that the ideal method would be to
> troubleshoot the video files without installing any new libraries on
> the computer being used to do the trouble shooting.  I figure that
> once the files are fixed to where this one can play them, then they
> should work on pretty much any system.  Or is your sage quote about
> the libraries indicating that this system would actually be able to
> then encode the files properly so that they are playable on any other
> system?
> 
That's a tall order for video codecs.  The only one I can think of off
the top of my head that *most* systems will play by default is MPEG1.
There are probably others, but many many formats require something
additional to be installed.  Windows users often get these installed by
blindly clicking "yes, I agree, next, next, finish".  Videos require
codecs, and different operating systems install different codecs by
default.

When circulating videos, I usually tend to put them in Ogg Theora and
tell everybody to install VLC or watch it in the latest Firefox (Chrome
works too, I think).

-Rob


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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:49:08AM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> As for YouTube converting the video after uploading, I am sure that
> does happen.  However, I have this problem with my original captures
> before they get sent to the Tube as well.  Here are a three sample
> non-YouTubeized files:
> 
Looks like photobucket converted the files just like YouTube.  When I
download them, they show up as h264 and libfaad.  File sizes are:

6213004
4959186
16501170

I think I can receive emails up to 10 MB.  If you can make a clip
smaller than that, email it to me directly.  (Or find another place to
upload them, I guess).

-Rob


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RE: I have a boot error. concerning not finding acl.end

2010-10-23 Thread Bill Nickels

Thanks, a perfect fix.

> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> From: t@gmx.de
> Subject: Re: I have a boot error. concerning not finding acl.end
> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:58:23 +0200
> 
> Bill Nickels wrote the following on 23.10.2010 21:36
> 
> > The system continues to boot without errors and no indications of problems. 
> > Linux debianhp 2.6.32-5-amd64. Squeeze.dmesg doesn't reference it
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/600446
> 
> cheers
> 
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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/23/2010 06:22 PM, Scarletdown wrote:

On 10/23/10, Ron Johnson  wrote:


Do you have http://www.debian-multimedia.org in your sources.list?


It's there.  Yes


Do you have libfaad2 installed on the static-playing machine?


libfaad2 is on both systems. (2.7-4)




COLUMNS=160 dpkg -l | cut -c5-39 | grep ^lib


It's all about the libraries...



I presume that having the right libraries would get it to play on the
Deb box.


Yes.


  However, that would still leave the underlying problem in
place.  These videos should be playable on any system that can play
YouTube videos.


Unless YouTube does some conversion.


 It seems to me that the ideal method would be to
troubleshoot the video files without installing any new libraries on
the computer being used to do the trouble shooting.  I figure that
once the files are fixed to where this one can play them, then they
should work on pretty much any system.  Or is your sage quote about
the libraries indicating that this system would actually be able to
then encode the files properly so that they are playable on any other
system?


What I'm saying is that if Machine A has libraries X, Y & Z and can 
play the file (both audio & video) in question, then Machine B 
*should* also be able to play the file if it too has the same 
versions of libraries X, Y & Z as does Machine A.



Anyway, here is the list of the libraries on both systems:

(Problem child system)

(Warning, ginormous list,  Have no idea what I should have removed
before posting)

liba52-0.7.4
libaa1
libaccess-bridge-java

[snip]

What does *one* machine's list of libraries do us any good?  You 
need to diff the two machine's list of libraries.


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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Scarletdown
Firstly, I want to take a moment to thank both of you people who
offered advice for your attempts to help.  Embarrassingly, it appears
that we were all following the wrong trail in our troubleshooting
after all.

Just out of curiosity, I brought up in Audacity the mp3 file from one
of the videos and saw that the left channel was blank, while all the
music was in the right channel (which I guess could be considered the
secondary channel in a stereo track.)  Apparently, some sound hardware
can't "hear" a file like this.  The channel with sound has to be the
left channel in a situation of this sort.

Investigating further, I determined that it was a hardware issue
involving the capture device.  The left and right audio from the Wii
were connected to an adapter that plugged them into a single input on
the capture device.  The adapter was this one:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/Scarletdown/Misc-Stuff/Audio-Splitter.jpg

Of particular note is the single black band on the tip.  I remembered
back when I was setting up the headset for my gaming center that a
similar single band adapter from line out was only giving mono sound,
but a double banded tip would give me stereo.  So, hoping that such
would be the same for line in, I dug up a suitable 2 banded adapter:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/Scarletdown/Misc-Stuff/Stereo-Input.jpg

And lo and behold, it works.  The one Deb box that was having problems
successfully played a freshly recorded video just fine.  Now
hopefully, I can manage to edit the other videos I already made so the
sound is properly in both channels so I don't have to try to
completely redo them.

So again, thanks for the help, even though we were all off base on the
problem.  At least I learned a little more than I knew starting out.
And as penance for feeling like I just wasted everyone's time, here is
my show stopping number freshly recorded for everyone's amusement (and
no, it is not a Rickroll).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGu1VfvrG68


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Re: Captured Video Not Producing Sound on Some Systems

2010-10-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/23/2010 09:24 PM, Scarletdown wrote:

Firstly, I want to take a moment to thank both of you people who
offered advice for your attempts to help.  Embarrassingly, it appears
that we were all following the wrong trail in our troubleshooting
after all.



We all make mistakes like that.

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Re: how to make the console not blank out and change resolution?

2010-10-23 Thread jidanni
Fabian Henze said:
> "nomodeset" is the parameter you are searching for.
I tried it.
$ cat /etc/debian_version /proc/cmdline
squeeze/sid
BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686 root=UUID=...9dc78 ro single panic=33 
nomodeset
It didn't work.

> But why would you want disable that?
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=561764
boot warnings fly off screen and are not logged to any file


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