Re: May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?

2010-09-19 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
Customing d-i is so hard. Many things confused me on the documents.
Cannot I just start with debootstrap?

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:31:21 -0400 (EDT), "Magicloud Magiclouds" wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:38:14 -0400 (EDT), "Magicloud Magiclouds" wrote:

 May I have a document about manually preparing a Debian system?
>>>
>>> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
>>>
>>>   or
>>>
>>> http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/installmanual
>>
>> I am not quite sure. Is this the document for debian-installer?
>
> Yes, it is.
>>
>> How if
>> I do not want to use a special "install disk"? Or you mean I have to
>> make an install disk myself?
>
> There are a number of different installation methods available.  They
> are described in the installation instructions.  Use the one that
> suits you best.  What I usually do is take the "netboot" mini.iso
> image and "burn" it to a CD-R.  Then I boot from the CD.  But there are
> other alternatives.  For example, you can make a bootable USB stick,
> commonly called a "thumb drive", and boot from it.  There are other
> installation methods that allow the installer to be started from a
> pre-existing Unix or Linux system, or from a Windows system.  Years
> ago, you could also create a bootable floppy disk and boot from a
> floppy.  But that installation method is no longer supported.  Etch
> is the last release that supported "boot floppy" installation.  In
> short, there's no substitute for reading the directions.
>
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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
> Here is my 'fstab'
>
> > # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> > #
> > #                
> > proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
> > /dev/hda1       /               ext3    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[snip
> > /dev/sda1    /        ntfs    defaults,errors=remount-ro    0    1

I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be trying 
to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).

Lisi



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Re: [solved] Re: rsync issue

2010-09-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina  writes:

>>> In rsync manual I coudn't find a solution to what I want.  I wish to copy
>>> all my home directory into another machine with the --delete option, but:
>>>
>>> 1) I dont't want hidden files, i.e.: `.*' to be copied;
>>>
>>> 2) on the other hand, there are some symlinks, beginning with `.', that I
>>>want to be copied.
>>>
>>> The --exclude option won't help.
>>>
>>> From my home directory, if I do:
>>>
>>>  $ rsync -vrtul --delete * 192.168.0.2:/home/rodolfo
>>>
>>> , hidden files that are in `~/' are not copied at all nor the --delete
>>> option applies to files that are in `~/', so it's not good; from /home, if
>>> I do:
>>>
>>>  $ rsync -vrtul --delete rodolfo 192.168.0.2:/home
>>>
>>> , everything is copied, also system hidden directories and files, which I
>>> don't want.
>>
>>
>> I mean, I want hidden files to be copied, except than
>> those in `~/': of those, i.e. of the hidden files in `~/', I just want the
>> symlinks to be copied.


I think it's better to create the symlinks by hand, as they can be different
when going from a system to another.  Then the following is good for me:

 $ cd
 $ rsync -vrtul --delete --exclude='.*' . 192.168.0.2:/home/rodolfo

The main issue here is that I had to replace `*' with `.' as the list of files
to be transferred.

Thanks for anyone's help.
Rodolfo


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Strange `No space left' on usb pendrive

2010-09-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi all.

When I try to copy more than 40MB onto an empty new 2GB usb pendrive, I get an
inexplicable `No space left on device' error message:


`11022008699.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008699.jpg'
`11022008700.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg'
cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg': No 
space left on device
`11022008701.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg'
cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg': No 
space left on device


The command df seems to show that everything is all right:

$ df -lh
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda6  11G  9.2G  912M  92% /
tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M   80K   10M   1% /dev
tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1 7.8G  7.3G  541M  94% /mnt/hda1
/dev/hda7 4.9G  1.9G  2.7G  42% /mnt/hda7
/dev/hda8 4.9G  3.4G  1.3G  74% /mnt/hda8
/dev/hda9 7.9G  2.7G  4.9G  36% /mnt/hda9
/dev/sda1 1.9G   40M  1.9G   3% /mnt/pendrive-carolina2


and so parted:

# parted /dev/sda1
GNU Parted 1.7.1
Using /dev/sda1
Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
(parted) p

Disk /dev/sda1: 2004MB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: loop

Number  Start   End SizeFile system  Flags
 1  0.00kB  2004MB  2004MB  fat16


Please help understand what the problem may be.  Should I format the device?

Thanks for any help
Rodolfo


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Re: Strange `No space left' on usb pendrive

2010-09-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-09-19 10:26 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> When I try to copy more than 40MB onto an empty new 2GB usb pendrive, I get an
> inexplicable `No space left on device' error message:
>
>
> `11022008699.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008699.jpg'
> `11022008700.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg'
> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg': No 
> space left on device
> `11022008701.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg'
> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg': No 
> space left on device
>
>
> The command df seems to show that everything is all right:
>
> $ df -lh
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda6  11G  9.2G  912M  92% /
> tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /lib/init/rw
> udev   10M   80K   10M   1% /dev
> tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda1 7.8G  7.3G  541M  94% /mnt/hda1
> /dev/hda7 4.9G  1.9G  2.7G  42% /mnt/hda7
> /dev/hda8 4.9G  3.4G  1.3G  74% /mnt/hda8
> /dev/hda9 7.9G  2.7G  4.9G  36% /mnt/hda9
> /dev/sda1 1.9G   40M  1.9G   3% /mnt/pendrive-carolina2
>
>
> and so parted:
>
> # parted /dev/sda1
> GNU Parted 1.7.1
> Using /dev/sda1
> Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
> (parted) p
>
> Disk /dev/sda1: 2004MB
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
> Partition Table: loop
>
> Number  Start   End SizeFile system  Flags
>  1  0.00kB  2004MB  2004MB  fat16
>
>
> Please help understand what the problem may be.  Should I format the device?

Not necessarily (unless you want a better filesystem), but you should
create some subdirectories and move files there.  FAT16 has a rather low
limit of directory entries for the root directory¹, and you're hitting
that.

Switching to FAT32 will avoid that and also waste less disk space, since
the cluster size gets reduced to 4 KiB from 32 KiB with FAT16.

Sven


¹ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat16#Final_FAT16


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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread John Lindsay

Lisi wrote:

On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
  

Here is my 'fstab'



# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1
  

[snip
  

/dev/sda1/ntfsdefaults,errors=remount-ro01
  


I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be trying 
to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).


Lisi



  

Hi Lisi

I saw that but don't know what to make of it. Here is the result of 'df 
-lh'.



FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1  71G   58G  9.8G  86% /
tmpfs 760M 0  760M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M  800K  9.3M   8% /dev
tmpfs 760M 0  760M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hdb  113G   82G   26G  77% /new-disk
/dev/sdb1 7.5G  3.4G  4.2G  46% /media/KINGSTON
/dev/sda1 1.9T  123M  1.9T   1% /mnt
Where the first 'dev/sda1' comes from is unknown to me. I formatted the 
drive on my Debian system using Partition Editor and it showed only a 
1.82TB size partition. Deleting the partition did not show an increase 
or that seemingly extra drive which does not physically exist. As the 
USER I believe I can edit the 'fstab' so I'll delete that line and see 
what happens. If the USER can't do it then I'll do it as ROOT.


John


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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread John Lindsay

Lisi wrote:

On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
  

Here is my 'fstab'



# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1
  

[snip
  

/dev/sda1/ntfsdefaults,errors=remount-ro01
  


I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be trying 
to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).


Lisi



  
Actually it is the 'mtab' that shows the two  '/dev/sda1'  entries. I'll 
try editing it and see what damage I can do!!!



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Re: Strange `No space left' on usb pendrive

2010-09-19 Thread Erwan David
Le Sun 19/09/2010, Rodolfo Medina disait
> Hi all.
> 
> When I try to copy more than 40MB onto an empty new 2GB usb pendrive, I get an
> inexplicable `No space left on device' error message:
> 
> 
> `11022008699.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008699.jpg'
> `11022008700.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg'
> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg': No 
> space left on device
> `11022008701.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg'
> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg': No 
> space left on device
> 
> 
> The command df seems to show that everything is all right:
> 
> $ df -lh
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda6  11G  9.2G  912M  92% /
> tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /lib/init/rw
> udev   10M   80K   10M   1% /dev
> tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda1 7.8G  7.3G  541M  94% /mnt/hda1
> /dev/hda7 4.9G  1.9G  2.7G  42% /mnt/hda7
> /dev/hda8 4.9G  3.4G  1.3G  74% /mnt/hda8
> /dev/hda9 7.9G  2.7G  4.9G  36% /mnt/hda9
> /dev/sda1 1.9G   40M  1.9G   3% /mnt/pendrive-carolina2
> 

What does df -i say ?
You might be out of inodes (depends on the filesystem of the key)
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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread John Lindsay

John Lindsay wrote:

Lisi wrote:



I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to 
be trying to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).


Lisi



  
Actually it is the 'mtab' that shows the two  '/dev/sda1'  entries. 
I'll try editing it and see what damage I can do!!!



Well, I edited 'mtab' as root and deleted the first instance of 
'/dev/sda1'. I then rebooted and here is my 'mtab' without doing a 
physical 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt' (something I do not have to do with the 
Kingston USB drive). Also, 'fstab' shows a mount point of '/' the same 
as my hda1. Does that make any difference? Still haven't found out how 
to make a volume label without reformatting and re-partitioning.


Thanks everyone for being very helpfully with this old codger!!


John


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Re: Does the HDCP crack have any implications for Debian?

2010-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
 On 19/09/10 06:04, Mark Allums wrote:
> On 9/18/2010 4:55 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> I'm very
>> happy with the performance I get by simply copying the bluerays I buy to
>> hard drive, and I prefer keep my media on hdd.
>
>
> This bears some explanation.  Are you watching stuff from Blu-Ray on a
> Debian machine?  How?  What is the process?
>
>
PAU supported video, blu-ray player, makemkv, vlc, google ;-p

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Re: Strange `No space left' on usb pendrive

2010-09-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On 2010-09-19 10:26 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> When I try to copy more than 40MB onto an empty new 2GB usb pendrive, I get an
> inexplicable `No space left on device' error message:
>
>
> `11022008699.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008699.jpg'
> `11022008700.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg'
> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg': No 
> space left on device
> `11022008701.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg'
> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg': No 
> space left on device
>
>
> The command df seems to show that everything is all right:
>
> $ df -lh
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda6  11G  9.2G  912M  92% /
> tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /lib/init/rw
> udev   10M   80K   10M   1% /dev
> tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda1 7.8G  7.3G  541M  94% /mnt/hda1
> /dev/hda7 4.9G  1.9G  2.7G  42% /mnt/hda7
> /dev/hda8 4.9G  3.4G  1.3G  74% /mnt/hda8
> /dev/hda9 7.9G  2.7G  4.9G  36% /mnt/hda9
> /dev/sda1 1.9G   40M  1.9G   3% /mnt/pendrive-carolina2
>
>
> and so parted:
>
> # parted /dev/sda1
> GNU Parted 1.7.1
> Using /dev/sda1
> Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
> (parted) p
>
> Disk /dev/sda1: 2004MB
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
> Partition Table: loop
>
> Number  Start   End SizeFile system  Flags
>  1  0.00kB  2004MB  2004MB  fat16
>
>
> Please help understand what the problem may be.  Should I format the device?


Erwan David  writes:

> What does df -i say ?
> You might be out of inodes (depends on the filesystem of the key)


Effectively, df -i produces a suspect output:

$ df -i
FilesystemInodes   IUsed   IFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/hda61409024  147438 1261586   11% /
tmpfs  28039   2   280371% /lib/init/rw
udev   28039 512   275272% /dev
tmpfs  28039   1   280381% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1  0   0   0-  /mnt/hda1
/dev/hda7 64  14  6399861% /mnt/hda7
/dev/hda8 64   51785  5882159% /mnt/hda8
/dev/hda9 525200   54395  470805   11% /mnt/hda9
/dev/sda1  0   0   0-  /mnt/pendrive-carolina2


What then?

Thanks
Rodolfo


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Re: What tool would convert map coordinates ?

2010-09-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bernard  writes:
> I need to convert map coordinates from Lambert II + to decimal
> degrees. I found a tool which works online on a web site, but the

I use the proj command for my coordinate conversions. I have no idea
if it supports what you need.


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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:50:05 -0400, John Lindsay wrote:

> I am still trying to get this USB drive to show up as an icon on the
> desktop and to show up under the toolbar 'Places' like my 8GB USB memory
> stick and my /new-disk hdb  (115GB internal drive). 

Then try by removing (or just #comment) the corresponding line under "/
etc/fstab" and let the automounter do it its way.

As for the second point, you'll have to explain better (what you did and 
what it happened).

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Re: Strange `No space left' on usb pendrive

2010-09-19 Thread Frank
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:15:06 +0200
Rodolfo Medina  wrote:

> On 2010-09-19 10:26 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
> > When I try to copy more than 40MB onto an empty new 2GB usb pendrive, I get 
> > an
> > inexplicable `No space left on device' error message:
> >
> >
> > `11022008699.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008699.jpg'
> > `11022008700.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg'
> > cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg': 
> > No space left on device
> > `11022008701.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg'
> > cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg': 
> > No space left on device
> >
> >
> 
> Effectively, df -i produces a suspect output:
> 
> $ df -i
> FilesystemInodes   IUsed   IFree IUse% Mounted on
> /dev/hda61409024  147438 1261586   11% /
> tmpfs  28039   2   280371% /lib/init/rw
> udev   28039 512   275272% /dev
> tmpfs  28039   1   280381% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda1  0   0   0-  /mnt/hda1
> /dev/hda7 64  14  6399861% /mnt/hda7
> /dev/hda8 64   51785  5882159% /mnt/hda8
> /dev/hda9 525200   54395  470805   11% /mnt/hda9
> /dev/sda1  0   0   0-  /mnt/pendrive-carolina2
> 
> 
> What then?



  Listen to what Sven Joachim is saying. The problem arises because
of FAT formatting. You can only put a certain number of files
(128??) in the root. Create a sub-directory and put your files in
there. Problem solved.


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I got you. was: My lenny picks the wrong resolution whereas squeeze is right

2010-09-19 Thread T o n g
Hi Stephen, 

This is to confirm that I've read your message thoroughly and take it 
seriously. However, I can only get back to you in a day or two.

Thanks

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:49:32 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:

> OK, I have looked at your files.


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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
 On 19/09/10 23:41, T o n g wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It's so annoying that Ms changes its file format again and people started 
> to jumping ships. I can't view any of the Office 2007 files that people 
> sent me. What's your solution to it (word and excel)?
>
> Thanks
>
OOo. (and send a bitmap screenshot of the converted document back to the
sender).

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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:41:40 +, T o n g wrote:

> It's so annoying that Ms changes its file format again and people
> started to jumping ships. I can't view any of the Office 2007 files that
> people sent me. What's your solution to it (word and excel)?

OpenOffice 3.x (Go-oo) can handle most of them (.docx/.xlsx).

What OOo version do you have?

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RE: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Mike Viau

> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:02:27 +  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:41:40 +, T o n g wrote:
>>
>> It's so annoying that Ms changes its file format again and people
>> started to jumping ships. I can't view any of the Office 2007 files that
>> people sent me. What's your solution to it (word and excel)?
>
> OpenOffice 3.x (Go-oo) can handle most of them (.docx/.xlsx).

I agree with that. Additionally, I've found more formatting issue with office 
2010 files then I have with 2007, but some issues do exist with both Microsoft 
office suites in OpenOffice.

>
> What OOo version do you have?
>

  

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Re: RS232-to-USB adapter with dial-up modem

2010-09-19 Thread hugo vanwoerkom

S D wrote:

Hi,

I have a RS-232 external dial-up modem that I use from time to time. It works 
fine when connected through a RS-232 port. I'd like to use the modem with 
another PC that doesn't have a RS-232 port, so I bought a RS-232 to USB adapter 
cable. It's a simple inexpensive cable that doesn't seem to have any 
chips/processors in it.

Now, when I connect the modem through a USB port I can't get the modem to work. 
It doesn't even attempt to dial the number:






Any ideas? Thanks




Have you tried a serial card?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815166003

Hugo


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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 02:02:27PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:41:40 +, T o n g wrote:
> 
> > It's so annoying that Ms changes its file format again and people
> > started to jumping ships. I can't view any of the Office 2007 files that
> > people sent me. What's your solution to it (word and excel)?
> 
> OpenOffice 3.x (Go-oo) can handle most of them (.docx/.xlsx).
> 
And if you're running Lenny, you can get this version in the
backports.debiang.org repository.

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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 19 September 2010 11:23:20 John Lindsay wrote:
> Here is the result of 'df
> -lh'.
>
> > Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/sda1              71G   58G  9.8G  86% /
[snip]
> > /dev/sda1             1.9T  123M  1.9T   1% /mnt

Curiouser and curiouser

Now we have one partition on two mount points. 

Out of interest (I am no expert, so use with all possible health warnings) try 
mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt in your fstab, ratherthan on /.  If that works, 
you can create a mount point for /dev/sda1 and use that in your fstab, 
freeing /mnt for more general use.

One usually has to edit /etc/fstab as root.

The fact that the filesystem is ntfs may have a bearing.  I know nothing about 
ntfs since I have never used it.

HTH
Lisi



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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 19 September 2010 11:29:44 John Lindsay wrote:
> Lisi wrote:
> > On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
> >> Here is my 'fstab'
> >>
> >>> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> >>> #
> >>> #
> >>> proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
> >>> /dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1
> >
> > [snip
> >
> >>> /dev/sda1/ntfsdefaults,errors=remount-ro01
> >
> > I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be
> > trying to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).
> >
> > Lisi
>
> Actually it is the 'mtab' that shows the two  '/dev/sda1'  entries. I'll
> try editing it and see what damage I can do!!!

Yes - but the point I made is that in /etc/fstab you have two 
*partitions*  /dev/hda1 and /dev/sda1 BOTH trying to mont on one mount 
point, /.  If you look again at my email you will see that that is what I 
said.

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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 19 September 2010 15:19:16 Rob Owens wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 02:02:27PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:41:40 +, T o n g wrote:
> > > It's so annoying that Ms changes its file format again and people
> > > started to jumping ships. I can't view any of the Office 2007 files
> > > that people sent me. What's your solution to it (word and excel)?
> >
> > OpenOffice 3.x (Go-oo) can handle most of them (.docx/.xlsx).
>
> And if you're running Lenny, you can get this version in the
> backports.debiang.org repository.
 No need.  The version of OOo in Lenny, 2.4.1, (which is really, of course, 
the oxygen version), can read docx files.

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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:51:26 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Sunday 19 September 2010 15:19:16 Rob Owens wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 02:02:27PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> > OpenOffice 3.x (Go-oo) can handle most of them (.docx/.xlsx).
>>
>> And if you're running Lenny, you can get this version in the
>> backports.debiang.org repository.
>  No need.  The version of OOo in Lenny, 2.4.1, (which is really, of
>  course,
> the oxygen version), can read docx files.

The higher OOo version, the better compatibility for opening those files.

I've encountered many ".docx" files that cannot be opened with my stock 
OOo writer (using lenny here).

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[solved] Re: Strange `No space left' on usb pendrive

2010-09-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On 2010-09-19 10:26 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>> When I try to copy more than 40MB onto an empty new 2GB usb pendrive, I get
>> an inexplicable `No space left on device' error message:
>>
>>
>> `11022008699.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008699.jpg'
>> `11022008700.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg'
>> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008700.jpg': No 
>> space left on device
>> `11022008701.jpg' -> `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg'
>> cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/pendrive-carolina2/11022008701.jpg': No 
>> space left on device
>>
>>
>> The command df seems to show that everything is all right:
>>
>> $ df -lh
>> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>> /dev/hda6  11G  9.2G  912M  92% /
>> tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /lib/init/rw
>> udev   10M   80K   10M   1% /dev
>> tmpfs 110M 0  110M   0% /dev/shm
>> /dev/hda1 7.8G  7.3G  541M  94% /mnt/hda1
>> /dev/hda7 4.9G  1.9G  2.7G  42% /mnt/hda7
>> /dev/hda8 4.9G  3.4G  1.3G  74% /mnt/hda8
>> /dev/hda9 7.9G  2.7G  4.9G  36% /mnt/hda9
>> /dev/sda1 1.9G   40M  1.9G   3% /mnt/pendrive-carolina2
>>
>>
>> and so parted:
>>
>> # parted /dev/sda1
>> GNU Parted 1.7.1
>> Using /dev/sda1
>> Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
>> (parted) p
>>
>> Disk /dev/sda1: 2004MB
>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
>> Partition Table: loop
>>
>> Number  Start   End SizeFile system  Flags
>>  1  0.00kB  2004MB  2004MB  fat16
>>
>>
>> Please help understand what the problem may be.  Should I format the device?



Sven Joachim  writes:

> Not necessarily (unless you want a better filesystem), but you should
> create some subdirectories and move files there.  FAT16 has a rather low
> limit of directory entries for the root directory¹, and you're hitting
> that.
>
> Switching to FAT32 will avoid that and also waste less disk space, since
> the cluster size gets reduced to 4 KiB from 32 KiB with FAT16.


Thanks.  I switched to fat32: within parted, I did: `mkpartfs primary fat32'.
Now the problem seems to be solved.

Rodolfo


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Re: rsync issue

2010-09-19 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina  writes:

> [...] the following is good for me:
>
>  $ cd
>  $ rsync -vrtul --delete --exclude='.*' . 192.168.0.2:/home/rodolfo


Sorry, it's still bad for me.  I want to copy everything but top level hidden
files, i.e. hidden files from my home directory.  The above command excludes
all hidden files from anywhere.  How can I achieve what I want?  I tried with:

 --exclude='./.*'

but it doesn't work either, because it includes hidden files from `~/'.

Thanks for any help
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Re: Iomega 2TB USB drive

2010-09-19 Thread John Lindsay

Lisi wrote:

On Sunday 19 September 2010 11:29:44 John Lindsay wrote:
  

Lisi wrote:


On Saturday 18 September 2010 22:50:05 John Lindsay wrote:
  

Here is my 'fstab'



# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1
  

[snip

  

/dev/sda1/ntfsdefaults,errors=remount-ro01
  

I don't know whther it is at all relevant, but your fstab appears to be
trying to mount two different drives on the same mount point (/).

Lisi
  

Actually it is the 'mtab' that shows the two  '/dev/sda1'  entries. I'll
try editing it and see what damage I can do!!!



Yes - but the point I made is that in /etc/fstab you have two 
*partitions*  /dev/hda1 and /dev/sda1 BOTH trying to mont on one mount 
point, /.  If you look again at my email you will see that that is what I 
said.


Lisi


  
Sorry Lisi I mis-read your email -- after re-reading your original reply 
I took a second and third look before it finally soaked into this thick 
head what you were saying -- I'll look into that when I return later 
today --



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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 19. 09. 2010 15:41:40 je T o n g napisal(a):

Hi,

It's so annoying that Ms changes its file format again and people  
started
to jumping ships. I can't view any of the Office 2007 files that  
people

sent me. What's your solution to it (word and excel)?

Thanks



You could kindly notify them that, while you have the latest softwares  
installed on your "office" computer, you don't have them installed on  
your laptop/netbook, and can't install them on your smartphone. Given  
that you're, say, a freelancer who's a lot on the road, it would enable  
you to get back to them sooner (hours, days, and sometimes weeks  
sooner) if they could kindly send you more "universal" document  
formats. You could even hint that, according to certain Internet  
reports, some of the newest formats are still quite buggy, or support  
certain features in a less than satisfying measure, or even have  
unresolved vulnerabilities.


Several good points in case may be found in:
http://www.fsf.org/news/why-im-rejecting-your-email-attachment
and, of course, in:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 19 September 2010 16:00:04 Camaleón wrote:
> I've encountered many ".docx" files that cannot be opened with my stock
> OOo writer (using lenny here).

I've obviously been lucky!

Lisi


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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 16:51, Lisi  wrote:
>  No need.  The version of OOo in Lenny, 2.4.1, (which is really, of course,
> the oxygen version), can read docx files.
>

OOo 3.0 was much better than 2.x for reading .docx files, and OOo 3.1
was even better. Google For OOo Ninja's articles on the matter.

By the way, although 3.2 did not add much for MSO interoperability, it
is _much_ faster than previous versions.


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how to use wireless without network-manager or wicd

2010-09-19 Thread hugo vanwoerkom

Hi,

I run a laptop with lenny and debian kernel 2.6.32 that runs wireless.

I connected to the laptop via USB a disk that contains a partition that 
also has debian kernel 2.6.32 but sid and that doesn't have network 
manager or wicd installed.


How would I get wireless going without them on that USB disk?

The laptop wireless module b43 gets loaded when I boot from the uSB disk.

/etc/network/interfaces has:

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

Hugo


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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 17:00, Camaleón  wrote:
> I've encountered many ".docx" files that cannot be opened with my stock
> OOo writer (using lenny here).
>

Camaleón and others, please send to me (in private mail) MSO files
that do not display well in Open Office. I will file bugs on the
matter and get them fixed. We really need more real-world documents!

Please try to remove all sensitive information from the documents
because they will likely be uploaded to a public bugtracker. If that
is impossible, then make sure to make that clear in the email, so that
I won't upload them.

Thanks!


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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Eric Viseur
Must agree with Dotan.
OOo 3.2 was a big step forward to a really efficient MSOffice alternative
and should really be used instead of older versions when possible.

2010/9/19 Dotan Cohen 

> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 16:51, Lisi  wrote:
> >  No need.  The version of OOo in Lenny, 2.4.1, (which is really, of
> course,
> > the oxygen version), can read docx files.
> >
>
> OOo 3.0 was much better than 2.x for reading .docx files, and OOo 3.1
> was even better. Google For OOo Ninja's articles on the matter.
>
> By the way, although 3.2 did not add much for MSO interoperability, it
> is _much_ faster than previous versions.
>
>
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Re: how to use wireless without network-manager or wicd

2010-09-19 Thread Eric Viseur
http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
This will give you a good starting point.  Past the wicd instructions you'll
see how to configure a wireless card from /etc/network/interfaces.  It's
basically the same as a wired card plus some extra parameters for the
wireless protection.

2010/9/19 hugo vanwoerkom 

> Hi,
>
> I run a laptop with lenny and debian kernel 2.6.32 that runs wireless.
>
> I connected to the laptop via USB a disk that contains a partition that
> also has debian kernel 2.6.32 but sid and that doesn't have network manager
> or wicd installed.
>
> How would I get wireless going without them on that USB disk?
>
> The laptop wireless module b43 gets loaded when I boot from the uSB disk.
>
> /etc/network/interfaces has:
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # The primary network interface
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>
> Hugo
>
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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread Greg Madden


On Sunday 19 September 2010 07:52:09 Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 19. 09. 2010 15:41:40 je T o n g napisal(a):
> > Hi,
> >
> > It's so annoying that Ms changes its file format again and people
> > started
> > to jumping ships. I can't view any of the Office 2007 files that
> > people
> > sent me. What's your solution to it (word and excel)?
> >

The best FOSS solution you can use  is OpenOffice. Google docs might be 
helpfull.
pdf works everywhere.

snip

> Several good points in case may be found in:
> http://www.fsf.org/news/why-im-rejecting-your-email-attachment
> and, of course, in:
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > Thanks
>

+1  

Also on why MS ooxml (docx?) iso standard isn't working.

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Architects_on_OOXML



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Re: Viewing Office 2007 files

2010-09-19 Thread T o n g
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:17:19 -0800, Greg Madden wrote:

>> > It's so annoying that Ms changes its file format again and people
>> > started
>> > to jumping ships. I can't view any of the Office 2007 files that
>> > people
>> > sent me. What's your solution to it (word and excel)?
>> >
>> >
> The best FOSS solution you can use  is OpenOffice. Google docs might be
> helpfull. pdf works everywhere.

Thanks everyone for the responds. 

OK, OOo is a no brainier. I meant, none of those smaller, command line 
tools like wv, catdoc, xlhtml etc works any more, in regarding of Office 
2007, right? Any command line, text tools that survives?

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Re: how to use wireless without network-manager or wicd

2010-09-19 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 19. 09. 2010 19:04:41 je hugo vanwoerkom napisal(a):

Hi,

I run a laptop with lenny and debian kernel 2.6.32 that runs wireless.

I connected to the laptop via USB a disk that contains a partition  
that also has debian kernel 2.6.32 but sid and that doesn't have  
network manager or wicd installed.


How would I get wireless going without them on that USB disk?

The laptop wireless module b43 gets loaded when I boot from the uSB  
disk.


/etc/network/interfaces has:

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

Hugo


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I'd add something like:


auto eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.2.111
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.2.1
wireless-essid My_Home_Network



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Re: Proposed Fluxbox style for Debian

2010-09-19 Thread Javier Vasquez
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Dale  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have done some more work and now have 2 styles going so people can
> choose either the light or the dark. All can be found on the wiki[1]
> at the the usual place.
>
> Comments and/or suggestions more than welcome :-)
>
> Regards
> Dale
>
> [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Debian_LibStick
>
> ...

Nice...  Are they going to replace "Debian-blue" and "Debian-dark"
which come with unstable, and I believe sqeeze as well?  I think when
one doesn't specify a style, the one chosen by default on debian
unstable (perhaps sqeeze as well) is "Debian-dark", which is also nice
BTW...

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ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Jerry Stuckle
This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC.  I basically 
took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and get 
gnome's display correct.


I still have several problems, which may be related.  The easiest one to 
find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command.  This 
occurs whether I run as a user or root.


I've done a lot of looking, but don't seem to find anything similar. 
Does anyone have any ideas?


I'm still pretty much a noob on Linux, so please be gentle :)

TIA.

Jerry


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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jerry Stuckle  writes:
> I still have several problems, which may be related.  The easiest one
> to find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command.
> This occurs whether I run as a user or root.

So gnome starts but ps fails? Very odd. Please

1) apt-get install debsums
2) debsums

to see if any files are corrupted.


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RE: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Mike Viau

> On Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:15:42 -0400 
>
> This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC. I basically
> took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and get
> gnome's display correct.
>
> I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one to
> find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command. This
> occurs whether I run as a user or root.
>
> I've done a lot of looking, but don't seem to find anything similar.
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> I'm still pretty much a noob on Linux, so please be gentle :)
>

Have you tried any other Linux environments through your Virtual PC?

Or maybe even tried Virtual Box or VMware on Windows 7 to run Linux?

I have had sucess with both, but I never tried Microsoft's Virtual PC.


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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Allums

On 9/19/2010 7:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC.  I basically
took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and get
gnome's display correct.

I still have several problems, which may be related. The easiest one to
find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command. This
occurs whether I run as a user or root.

I've done a lot of looking, but don't seem to find anything similar.
Does anyone have any ideas?

I'm still pretty much a noob on Linux, so please be gentle :)






Your problem is probably Virtual PC.  Try Virtualbox (free) or VMware 
server (free) or VMware Desktop (paid and kind of expensive but much 
more usable for newbies than server).


I have some Virtualbox installations, and Debian---both 32-bit and 
64-bit---runs great on it.






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Re: Proposed Fluxbox style for Debian

2010-09-19 Thread Dale
On 20 September 2010 06:50, Javier Vasquez  wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Dale  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have done some more work and now have 2 styles going so people can
>> choose either the light or the dark. All can be found on the wiki[1]
>> at the the usual place.
>>
>> Comments and/or suggestions more than welcome :-)
>>
>> Regards
>> Dale
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Debian_LibStick
>>
>> ...
>
> Nice...  Are they going to replace "Debian-blue" and "Debian-dark"
> which come with unstable, and I believe sqeeze as well?  I think when
> one doesn't specify a style, the one chosen by default on debian
> unstable (perhaps sqeeze as well) is "Debian-dark", which is also nice
> BTW...
>
> --
> Javier.
>

Hi Javier & All,

Thanks, I hoping they both make it into the Debian Fluxbox and one of
them to become the default style for Fluxbox (fingers and toes
crossed, hehe) when a a style is not chosen. Most this work started
cause of the style 'debian_squeeze_dark', which I found rather
glitchy.

Anyways I hope people are enjoying the styles. as usual any comments
or suggests feel free to contact me :-)

Regards
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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 9/19/2010 8:23 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

Jerry Stuckle  writes:

I still have several problems, which may be related.  The easiest one
to find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command.
This occurs whether I run as a user or root.


So gnome starts but ps fails? Very odd. Please

1) apt-get install debsums
2) debsums

to see if any files are corrupted.




Hi, Timo, and thanks for responding.  Yes, gnome starts, although 
occasionally I get


debsums by itself found a LOT of good files, so I ran it with -s.  The 
only mismatch it found was on


/usr/lib/openoffice/share/config/javasettingsunopkginstall.xml.

That shouldn't be a problem.

Rerunning with -a -s added a mismatch for

/etc/console-tools/config

But I don't think that should be a problem, either.

Further testing indicates when I boot into the single user mode, ps 
works fine.  Also, during normal boot I found an Illegal Instruction 
message for sysctl - which fails from a command line on normal boot 
also, but works in single user mode.


And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's 
not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes 
with Windows 7 doesn't work.


Jerry


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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Allums

On 9/19/2010 8:41 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's
not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes
with Windows 7 doesn't work.


It doesn't work because it doesn't work.

Microsoft doesn't care if any OS besides a Microsoft-produced one works. 
 That's what Virtual PC is for, to run MS OSes.


I have tried it.  It is unstable with the distributions of Linux I 
tried.  Debian 4,5, Ubuntu 5,6,8, Mandriva, SuSE.  SuSE worked best. 
Virtual PC 2004 and 2007 worked better than Windows 7.


Good luck.


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Re: Proposed Fluxbox style for Debian

2010-09-19 Thread Phil Requirements
On 2010-09-18 22:31:06 +0930, Dale wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have done some more work and now have 2 styles going so people can
> choose either the light or the dark. All can be found on the wiki[1]
> at the the usual place.
> 
> Comments and/or suggestions more than welcome :-)
> 
> On 17 September 2010 14:01, Dale  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have done some fixing and theses are the fixes I have done,
> >
> > * Fixed the fade on the menu
> > * Adjusted toolbar, window title bar, menu bar heights from 14 to 18
> > * Adjusted font sizes to suit.
> >
> > I have also added and overlay example to the wiki page[1] of some
> > overrides to the theme, and updated the screenshots.
> >
> > Comments and/or suggestions more than welcome
> >
> > On 16 September 2010 18:35, Dale  wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I have been working on a new Fluxbox style[1] for Debian and hopefully
> > > come the default theme for a release like squeeze, or the next the
> > > next Debian release.
> > >
> > > Comments and/or suggestions more than welcome
> > >

Dale,

The scheme that is called Light does not seem very light to me.  I see
that it has more contrast than the Dark theme, but it still uses a
dark background and dark window titles. Overall, it still looks like a
dark theme to me, albeit one with more contrast. Maybe the name is
misleading?

When I think about a typical light theme, I think of a light colored
background with dark text.  For example, the editor that is showing in
one of the screenshots is using the GTK theme Clearlooks (I
think). That is a light theme because it uses white and light gray
backgrounds, black text, and color for accents.

It might be nice to have a true light theme for people who like those.
Apparently, a lot of people like them. Or it might suffice to change
the name of the existing second theme? I guess I would vote for more
difference between the two themes.

Some ideas to take or leave, no need to change anything on my account.

Phil


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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Morgan Gangwere
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:48:49 -0500
Mark Allums  wrote:

> Your problem is probably Virtual PC.  Try Virtualbox (free) or VMware 
> server (free) or VMware Desktop (paid and kind of expensive but much 
> more usable for newbies than server).

Its a known problem. very much a known problem!

its something with the software emulation of certain bits of
hardware... From what I know.


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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 9/19/2010 10:00 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 9/19/2010 8:41 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:


And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's
not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes
with Windows 7 doesn't work.


It doesn't work because it doesn't work.

Microsoft doesn't care if any OS besides a Microsoft-produced one works.
That's what Virtual PC is for, to run MS OSes.

I have tried it. It is unstable with the distributions of Linux I tried.
Debian 4,5, Ubuntu 5,6,8, Mandriva, SuSE. SuSE worked best. Virtual PC
2004 and 2007 worked better than Windows 7.

Good luck.




As I said - unless you can tell me WHY it doesn't work, it's not open 
for discussion.  The fact you tried it with one distro and don't like 
Microsoft are NOT valid reasons.



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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Allums

On 9/19/2010 10:11 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:



As I said - unless you can tell me WHY it doesn't work, it's not open
for discussion. The fact you tried it with one distro and don't like
Microsoft are NOT valid reasons.



I did not say I don't like Microsoft.

I tried it with seven distros.  Granted, not today's distros.  Well, 
Lenny and six others.


If you don't want to use a non-MS product, fine.  I think you are doomed 
to frustration.


If you want a Microsoft product, install Server 2008 R2 and enable the 
Hyper-V role.  Hyper-V will run Linux and UNIX(tm).







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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
 On 20/09/10 13:11, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 9/19/2010 10:00 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
>> On 9/19/2010 8:41 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>
>>> And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's
>>> not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes
>>> with Windows 7 doesn't work.
>>
>> It doesn't work because it doesn't work.
>>
>> Microsoft doesn't care if any OS besides a Microsoft-produced one works.
>> That's what Virtual PC is for, to run MS OSes.
>>
>> I have tried it. It is unstable with the distributions of Linux I tried.
>> Debian 4,5, Ubuntu 5,6,8, Mandriva, SuSE. SuSE worked best. Virtual PC
>> 2004 and 2007 worked better than Windows 7.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>
> As I said - unless you can tell me WHY it doesn't work, it's not open
> for discussion.  The fact you tried it with one distro and don't like
> Microsoft are NOT valid reasons.
>
>
A couple of points (please bear with me Jerry).
You don't tell us whether your CPU support hardware virtualization
(could be important)
You don't tell us anything about how you have Virtual PC configured for
Lenny
The suggestion that you try VirtualBox could be misinterpreted to mean:-
Microsoft sucks, which would be wrong. It's suggested because:-
A. it'll give another lot of data that may help resolve the problem with
Virtual PC
B. Some of us "know" that the Virtual PC that is bundled with Windows 7
has been optimised to run earlier versions of Windows ('cause we
searched the Microsoft Knowledge Base).
C. Not m/any(?) on this list have experience with Linux under Windows 7
Virtual PC *because it does not* natively support Linux

That said - earlier versions of Virtual PC have supported Linux - it is
possible that Windows 7 Virtual PC can be made to support Linux...
First I suggest you confirm that your CPU does support hardware
virtualization (not necessary to run Linux in a VM, maybe critical to
Virtual PC).
Let us know what configuration you are using in Virtual PC.

Cheers

PS. scroll down to the section labelled "Supported Operating Systems"
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/requirements.aspx

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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
 On 20/09/10 10:15, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> This is a new install of Lenny on Windows 7 Virtual PC.  I basically
> took the defaults, with a couple of changes to get it to install and
> get gnome's display correct.
>
> I still have several problems, which may be related.  The easiest one
> to find is an "Illegal Instruction" when I run a simple ps command. 
> This occurs whether I run as a user or root.
>
> I've done a lot of looking, but don't seem to find anything similar.
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> I'm still pretty much a noob on Linux, so please be gentle :)
>
> TIA.
>
> Jerry
>
>
This thread describes getting Ubuntu running in Windows 7 Virtual PC,
the information "may" be useful to you.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1466888


Cheers

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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jerry Stuckle  writes:
> And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's
> not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes
> with Windows 7 doesn't work.

It's fairly difficult to answer such a guestion, especially without
source code to Windows 7 :-)




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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

2010-09-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
 On 20/09/10 14:12, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle  writes:
>> And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's
>> not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes
>> with Windows 7 doesn't work.
> It's fairly difficult to answer such a guestion, especially without
> source code to Windows 7 :-)
>
>
>
>
Timo, how big is your mail box? ;-p

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Re: Proposed Fluxbox style for Debian

2010-09-19 Thread Dale
Hi Phil,

On 20 September 2010 11:37, Phil Requirements  wrote:

> The scheme that is called Light does not seem very light to me.  I see
> that it has more contrast than the Dark theme, but it still uses a
> dark background and dark window titles. Overall, it still looks like a
> dark theme to me, albeit one with more contrast. Maybe the name is
> misleading?

Yeah you are right there. I am not the best at naming thing things. It
was a friend the came up with the name of the theme for me. Maybe I
can call the the lighter font one 'Debian LibStick Dark Contrast' and
leave the other called 'Debian LibStick Dark'.

>
> When I think about a typical light theme, I think of a light colored
> background with dark text.  For example, the editor that is showing in
> one of the screenshots is using the GTK theme Clearlooks (I
> think). That is a light theme because it uses white and light gray
> backgrounds, black text, and color for accents.

The GTK theme I am using is 'Murrina-Leopard-Mod' with the
'gtk2-engines-murrine' as the murrine engine seems to be a lot faster
than Clearlooks.

>
> It might be nice to have a true light theme for people who like those.
> Apparently, a lot of people like them. Or it might suffice to change
> the name of the existing second theme? I guess I would vote for more
> difference between the two themes.

As I am not much of an artist I have yet to find a nice Debian light
background to use, maybe the default 'debian-blueish-wallpaper.svg'
will do. I have been thinking of doing a proper light version Fluxbox
style.

>
> Some ideas to take or leave, no need to change anything on my account.

Thanks for your input it very much appreciated :-)

Regards
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