Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman 

Paul Cartwright schreef:
thanks for clearing that up & for all the info! I love the stable lenny 
release, I dread upgrading the kernel, mainly because of the NVIDIA driver..
not sure why, but it seems that every time I changed the kernel, besides X not 
working, it also made my network stop... but that's another story. For now I 
guess I'll just wait for the release!
In squeeze, they shipped a dkms-version of the nvidia drivers, and it 
actually works. I've updated my kernel quite a few times and didn't had 
to do any 'm-a a-i nvidia'.

Does your network card also require some alternative driver?

Sjoerd



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Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Chany 
Hi,

I decide today that I'm going to upgrade my Debian GNU/Linux Lenny to
Squeeze.

I try to search on debian.org site for an exact howto for this, but
find nothing. Mayhep I don't know how to search effectively?

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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Cartwright 
On Wed July 21 2010, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> In squeeze, they shipped a dkms-version of the nvidia drivers, and it
> actually works. I've updated my kernel quite a few times and didn't had
> to do any 'm-a a-i nvidia'.
> Does your network card also require some alternative driver?
> 
well, not alternate driver, just nvidia, as in the NOT-FREE driver. I have 
been using sgfxi to install my drivers, the last few upgrades. But there 
hasn't been an upgrade in a while, at least I don't remember one messing up 
my video setup.
But that is good to know, thanks! Do you run gnome or KDE? just curious, in 
squeeze is KDE changed to KDE4 ? my wife still runs KDE3 and it would be a 
real shock for her to have to switch to KDE4.. I run gnome myself.


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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Jochen Schulz 
Paul Chany:
> 
> I decide today that I'm going to upgrade my Debian GNU/Linux Lenny to
> Squeeze.
> 
> I try to search on debian.org site for an exact howto for this, but
> find nothing. Mayhep I don't know how to search effectively?

The keyword you need to look for is "release notes". You will find this
page:

http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes

Unfortunately, all of the links on this page lead to a 404 error page.
That means there is no official howto yet. As an approximation, you
might replace "squeeze" with "lenny" in the URL above to look for
lenny's release notes.

Upgrades to squeeze will have its own quirks, for example the
grub->grub2 migration. Maybe wiki.debian.org helps you with these in
case you are going to try it.

(BTW, I have upgraded one of my lenny machines a few weeks ago. Apart
from the grub upgrade, everything went smooth. It is just a little
annoying to keep up with the daily updates on this machine and
postgresql-9.0 isn't installable at the moment.)

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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Chany 
Jochen Schulz  writes:

> Paul Chany:
>>
>> I decide today that I'm going to upgrade my Debian GNU/Linux Lenny
>> to Squeeze.
>>
>> I try to search on debian.org site for an exact howto for this, but
>> find nothing. Mayhep I don't know how to search effectively?
>
> The keyword you need to look for is "release notes". You will find
> this page:
>
> http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes
>
> That means there is no official howto yet. As an approximation, you
> might replace "squeeze" with "lenny" in the URL above to look for
> lenny's release notes.

Thanks!

Moreover, I decide to migrate my 32-bit Debian GNU/Linux Lenny
installation to 64-bit one (i386 to x86_64). I'm going to use this
howto: http://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit

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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell 

On Jul 21, 2010, at 4:23 AM, Paul Chany wrote:

> Jochen Schulz  writes:
> 
>> Paul Chany:
>>> 
>>> I decide today that I'm going to upgrade my Debian GNU/Linux Lenny
>>> to Squeeze.
>>> 
>>> I try to search on debian.org site for an exact howto for this, but
>>> find nothing. Mayhep I don't know how to search effectively?
>> 
>> The keyword you need to look for is "release notes". You will find
>> this page:
>> 
>> http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes
>> 
>> That means there is no official howto yet. As an approximation, you
>> might replace "squeeze" with "lenny" in the URL above to look for
>> lenny's release notes.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Moreover, I decide to migrate my 32-bit Debian GNU/Linux Lenny
> installation to 64-bit one (i386 to x86_64). I'm going to use this
> howto: http://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit

Just make sure you dd the entire drive over to a backup drive before you try to 
migrate, unless it's trivial to just start over in the event of a major failure 
(which can always happen.)


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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Lisi 
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:13:10 Paul Cartwright wrote:
>  in
> squeeze is KDE changed to KDE4 ?

Yes - which is why I am still running Lenny. 

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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Jochen Schulz 
Paul Chany:
> 
> Moreover, I decide to migrate my 32-bit Debian GNU/Linux Lenny
> installation to 64-bit one (i386 to x86_64). I'm going to use this
> howto: http://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit

Interesting approach. I would probably just mkfs my swap partition and
debootstrap there. Then reboot into the previous swap partition, clean
the old root and swap back again. That way, you can keep /home, /etc
etc. intact, too.

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Re: CARTE SON PCI EXEPRESS

2010-07-21 Thread Kelly Clowers 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:14, Michal  wrote:
>
>> USB is for flash drives, printers, etc.
>> Nothing good ever comes of using USB for sound or LAN
>>
>> OP, M-Audio makes good cards as does Asus (Xonar series). Just don't
>> get anything from Creative. You would have more choice if you went PCI
>> instead of PCIe, and PCIe doesn't really have any particular benefits for
>> sound cards (unless you are building a small form-factor computer that
>> only has PCIe slots or something).
>>
>> Actually, unless you are doing something special with audio (producing
>> music or DJing or something), it really makes sense to go with the
>> onboard sound chip. Via Envy24 chips are good, as are most that
>> conform to the Intel HDA spec (including the very common Realtek
>> chips that implement that spec (ALC88x and ALC1200)) .
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kelly Clowers
>>
>>
>
> Have external sound card moves the processing off the CPU, good if you have
> a low powered computer or are trying to get the maximum out of it, gaming
> for example (Though admittedly most hardcore gaming is done on Windows). You
> do also get better quality from an external card, but whether you would
> notice that is down to the person, and debatable

An onboard sound chip does the same processing as a PCI sound card -
they are not like winmodems. True, a card can get you better sound, but
the modern onboard chips are darn good, unlike the ones from say, 6+
years ago which where pretty sad.


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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman 

Paul Cartwright schreef:

On Wed July 21 2010, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:

In squeeze, they shipped a dkms-version of the nvidia drivers, and it
actually works. I've updated my kernel quite a few times and didn't had
to do any 'm-a a-i nvidia'.
Does your network card also require some alternative driver?

well, not alternate driver, just nvidia, as in the NOT-FREE driver. I have 
been using sgfxi to install my drivers, the last few upgrades. But there 
hasn't been an upgrade in a while, at least I don't remember one messing up 
my video setup.
But that is good to know, thanks! Do you run gnome or KDE? just curious, in 
squeeze is KDE changed to KDE4 ? my wife still runs KDE3 and it would be a 
real shock for her to have to switch to KDE4.. I run gnome myself.
I run KDE, and am quite happy with KDE4 (at version 4.4 now). Yet, 
opinions differ, so your wife has to find out if KDE4 suits her or not.
Of course, staying with Lenny for KDE3 is only a short term solution. In 
the long run, you'll either have to accept KDE4 or use the fork of KDE 
3.5 at http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/.


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Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:19:30AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei:
> 
> > > question: I have s live/installable-CD/DVD. I use its normal/rescue
> > > mode - I do somethings w/ my OS on HDD in order to make it working.
> > > I had no ability to check its checksum, so, is there a way I can be
> > > sure that the software I used is "clean"?  
> > 
> > Why can't you check the checksum?
> 
> For two reasons:
> 
> 1. I do not know how to get image from a cd/dvd - I believe by simple
> dd-ing it will not work w/ checksum, but some more options should be
> used.

Actually, a simple dd should work.

> 
> 2. not for all cd/dvd-s I know checksums or places where I can obtain
> it - it is for a bit older Debian and Ubuntu. - For I have noticed that
> on their sites the chcksums are gone as soon as new images are uploaded
> to the sites. Or there is a archive for the checksums?

Could you please be more specific as to the version? Both Debian and
Ubuntu keep copies of older images.

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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell 

On Jul 21, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:

> Paul Cartwright schreef:
>> On Wed July 21 2010, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>>> In squeeze, they shipped a dkms-version of the nvidia drivers, and it
>>> actually works. I've updated my kernel quite a few times and didn't had
>>> to do any 'm-a a-i nvidia'.
>>> Does your network card also require some alternative driver?
>>> 
>> well, not alternate driver, just nvidia, as in the NOT-FREE driver. I have 
>> been using sgfxi to install my drivers, the last few upgrades. But there 
>> hasn't been an upgrade in a while, at least I don't remember one messing up 
>> my video setup.
>> But that is good to know, thanks! Do you run gnome or KDE? just curious, in 
>> squeeze is KDE changed to KDE4 ? my wife still runs KDE3 and it would be a 
>> real shock for her to have to switch to KDE4.. I run gnome myself.
> I run KDE, and am quite happy with KDE4 (at version 4.4 now). Yet, opinions 
> differ, so your wife has to find out if KDE4 suits her or not.
> Of course, staying with Lenny for KDE3 is only a short term solution. In the 
> long run, you'll either have to accept KDE4 or use the fork of KDE 3.5 at 
> http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/.
> 
> Sjoerd
> 

Could you not just hold back the KDE3 to KDE4 upgrade when you upgrade Debian?

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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Chany 
Jordon Bedwell  writes:

> On Jul 21, 2010, at 4:23 AM, Paul Chany wrote:
>
>> Jochen Schulz  writes:
>> 
>>> Paul Chany:
 
 I decide today that I'm going to upgrade my Debian GNU/Linux Lenny
 to Squeeze.
 
 I try to search on debian.org site for an exact howto for this, but
 find nothing. Mayhep I don't know how to search effectively?
>>> 
>>> The keyword you need to look for is "release notes". You will find
>>> this page:
>>> 
>>> http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes
>>> 
>>> That means there is no official howto yet. As an approximation, you
>>> might replace "squeeze" with "lenny" in the URL above to look for
>>> lenny's release notes.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Moreover, I decide to migrate my 32-bit Debian GNU/Linux Lenny
>> installation to 64-bit one (i386 to x86_64). I'm going to use this
>> howto: http://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit
>
> Just make sure you dd the entire drive over to a backup drive before
> you try to migrate, unless it's trivial to just start over in the
> event of a major failure (which can always happen.)

Could you please drop me the dd command for this task?

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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell 

On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:00 AM, Paul Chany wrote:
> 
> Could you please drop me the dd command for this task?

Here is a little article that explains it (while it might seem out of date it 
still works ~ gotta love linux for that) 
http://www.mckeay.net/2004/10/18/using-dd-to-clone-a-hd/

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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Chany 
Jordon Bedwell  writes:

> On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:00 AM, Paul Chany wrote:
>>
>> Could you please drop me the dd command for this task?
>
> Here is a little article that explains it (while it might seem out
> of date it still works ~ gotta love linux for that)
> http://www.mckeay.net/2004/10/18/using-dd-to-clone-a-hd/

Can't open this web page.. I'm searching for another page..

man dd is outdated, info dd isn't exist..

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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Cartwright 
On Wed July 21 2010, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> Could you not just hold back the KDE3 to KDE4 upgrade when you upgrade
> Debian?

the problem is applications that require KDE4 libs.. I've already run into 
that more than once.In the end, I'm sure I will have to upgrade to KDE4, but 
I know my wife won't be happy for a while...

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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell 

On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> On Wed July 21 2010, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
>> Could you not just hold back the KDE3 to KDE4 upgrade when you upgrade
>> Debian?
> 
> the problem is applications that require KDE4 libs.. I've already run into 
> that more than once.In the end, I'm sure I will have to upgrade to KDE4, but 
> I know my wife won't be happy for a while...
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This reminds me of when they started messing with GNOME and started switching 
defaults and ended up alienating a lot of true Linux users (this was mostly 
Ubuntu using their sway to do it.)

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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Cartwright 
On Wed July 21 2010, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> This reminds me of when they started messing with GNOME and started
> switching defaults and ended up alienating a lot of true Linux users (this
> was mostly Ubuntu using their sway to do it.)

I was always a KDE user, through a few years of learning SUSE, and then when I 
started Debian, 2 years ago. I had a problem with debian logging me out when 
my wifes switched users, and i solved the problem by switching my desktop to 
gnome, it no longer logged me out. I learned to like gnome, so I stick with 
it! but she still uses KDE3. So I guess my choices are to get her to use 
gnome now, or wait for the squeeze upgrade & make her use KDE4..


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Re: Debian way to essentially call block phone number

2010-07-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen 
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 08:18:25PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On 17/07/10 17:37, Mike Viau wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone runs a system that essentially blocks unwanted
>> calls from a list of programmed phone numbers. I have the caller display
>> option on my phones service that returns the phone number of most
>> incoming calls.
>>
>> I came across this idea after reading:
>>
>> If you want to go the freebie route, you can download free software that
>> claims to block unwanted calls. This software works by hooking up your
>> phone to your computer and letting the software screen incoming calls.
>> Some of these downloads require you to have other hardware though. [1]
>>
>> Is there a package in Debian I should be aware of, something I can run
>> on a personal computer? I was also considering designing embedded system
>> to do the job, but I cringe at the thought of integrating a POTS (Plain
>> Old Telephone System) modem in the embedded world.
>>

Debian includes Asterisk and YATE. That said, both (and FreeSwitch,
mentioned below) are an overkill for a simple home system. That is:
unless you want to add your own logic in at the price of extra
complexity.

You'll need a telephony adapter. A simple modem will not do, as there's
no standard interface that I'm aware of to use a modem as a voice
channel.

Zaptel/DAHDI provides interfaces for (mostly) some specialized hardware.
It is an out-of-tree kernel module, though included in Debian and
actively maintained.

(Disclaimer: I work for one company that makes such specialized hardware
and am involved in DAHDI and Asterisk)

Alternatively, if your PSTN is ISDN, you have some other options.
Or you could try switching to a whole VoIP system - replacing your
landline with a SIP "line". Though that adds yet anthoer point of
complexity and faliure.

There's an interesting project around Asterisk on a cheap Blackfin-based
embedded system. See http://www.rowetel.com/ucasterisk/ucasterisk.html
However I tend to avoid the Blackfin, due to the system lacking an MMU
and thus lacking long-term stability. But that's me.

Also, as mentioend by Alan, you can use an external SIP-connected
adapter. In that case I guess you could basically use just about any
embedded system.

>
>
> I haven't got it set up right now, but in the past I have run  
> freeswitch.  Its essentially a better package than asterisk.  You can  
> download a .deb file from freeswitch.org.  You can configure it pretty  
> easily to do almost anything you want.

FreeSwitch is a huge package of bundled software. Their tarball includes
everything from arp to whatnot. They seem to avoid system copies on
purpose. Good luck maintaining your system.

>
> I have some linksys boxes one of which takes standard phones and turns  
> them into voip phones and the other of which will connect to a standard  
> POTS line and convert the data from it into SIP traffic. PAP2T is the  
> one that supports two phones.  The other, I don't have the exact name of  
> right now, but is a similar type of box to the PAP2T except one of the  
> ports connects to the old telephone network.

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Re: cloning/saving system

2010-07-21 Thread B. Alexander 
John,

For future reference, if you want to have a basic clone (not an exact copy)
of a machine, what I end up doing (which allows me to provision a machine in
about 15 minutes) uses the following procedure:

1. Create a package list on the old machine [1]

dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > pkglist.hostname

2. (Optional) Capture the drive layout [1]

  df > driveinfo.hostname
  df -h >> driveinfo.hostname
  fdisk -l >> driveinfo.hostname

3. Build the new machine with the netinst or businesscard cd. When asked
what type of system to build (package selection), uncheck all the boxes.

Reboot into your new system, copy pkglist.hostname from step 1 onto the
machine. Do the following:

  dpkg --set-selections < pkglist.hostname
  apt-get dselect-upgrade

This should give you a system with a nearly identical set of packages that
you can then tweak to your hearts content.

[1] You can actually back these files up and have a pool of different
"types" of machine. For instance, I have a workstation packagelist, a laptop
list, as well as lists for the various types of bastion hosts in my network,
including a wiki host (mediawiki), firewall, backup server, etc.

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On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM, John Lindsay  wrote:

> John Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I am currently using debian lenny as my primary computer. It's a Dell
>> Dimension 8300, P4, 3.4G with 1G Ram. 60G HD.
>> I also have a Dell Optiplex GX620 which currently has win7 on a 300G HD
>> with 1.5g ram. I will be removing files from the win7 and storing them on
>> DVDs and installing Debian on it. How can I clone/transfer my current
>> working machine with all it's files/programs like thunderbird/iceweasel etc
>> to the GX520 and still retain a working system?
>>
>> John
>>
>> PS I have file backup manager 'Pybackpack' currently running but I don't
>> think that is what I want.
>>
>>
>>  Thanks for all the info on the above. "SHE WHO MUST BE OBEYED" has
> persuaded me NOT to do as I planned. She likes the system as is and refuses
> to let me change it. Thanks anyway as I did learn a lot by  following up the
> suggestions on clonezilla etc.
>
>
> John
>
>
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is this result of keylogger? am i hacked?

2010-07-21 Thread Sergey Spiridonov 

Hi

I found yesterday that some files in /etc/ (/etc/shells and 
/etc/default/default/schroot) are changed. They contain data which I was 
typing on keyboard. Strange enough, this files are not overwritten, but 
contain data they should contain + somewhere in the middle or at the 
beginning of the file they contain something I typed in browser or in 
command line in X window system.


This looks like that I am hacked and somebody try to get my passwords. 
But may be there is another explanation, like broken package? Or can 
somebody suggest, how can I check it? Reinstalling everything from 
scratch is a lot of work...


System is squeeze, upgraded from lenny few weeks ago.


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Re: cloning/saving system

2010-07-21 Thread H.S. 

On 21/07/10 08:41 AM, B. Alexander wrote:



3. Build the new machine with the netinst or businesscard cd. When asked
what type of system to build (package selection), uncheck all the boxes.

Reboot into your new system, copy pkglist.hostname from step 1 onto the
machine. Do the following:


I think you are also supposed to change your sources.list file at this 
point (for example if your machine was using Debian Unstable but if you 
used a Stable or Testing installer).





   dpkg --set-selections<  pkglist.hostname
   apt-get dselect-upgrade

This should give you a system with a nearly identical set of packages that
you can then tweak to your hearts content.


I am not sure what you think about /home, but usually that is the more 
important consideration for me. What I usually do is:
1. Make note of the UIDs & GIDs of the users (or the order in which they 
were created). 'ls -nl /home' lists those.
2. Make a backup of /var as well to restore users' mail (in /var/mail) 
and cronjobs (in /var/spool/cron/crontabs) and perhaps at jobs (in 
/var/spool/cront).


Finally, backing up /etc and restoring it later prevents you from having 
to do all the configurations again.




[1] You can actually back these files up and have a pool of different
"types" of machine. For instance, I have a workstation packagelist, a laptop
list, as well as lists for the various types of bastion hosts in my network,
including a wiki host (mediawiki), firewall, backup server, etc.


All good points.

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Re: is this result of keylogger? am i hacked?

2010-07-21 Thread Jochen Schulz 
Sergey Spiridonov:
> 
> I found yesterday that some files in /etc/ (/etc/shells and
> /etc/default/default/schroot) are changed. They contain data which I
> was typing on keyboard. Strange enough, this files are not
> overwritten, but contain data they should contain + somewhere in the
> middle or at the beginning of the file they contain something I
> typed in browser or in command line in X window system.

One possible reason: your memory is corrupt. Run memtest86 to check
that.

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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Lisi 
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:45:06 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>  In
> the long run, you'll either have to accept KDE4 or use the fork of KDE
> 3.5 at http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/.

Or choose something else.  CLI? Fluxbox? Another DE?  Trinity looks 
promissing, but seems to be focussed on Ubuntu.

Now that poses a real dilemma.  Which to abandon?  KDE 3.5.x or Debian??

Lisi


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Winsonic Motherboards

2010-07-21 Thread David Baron 
Anybody had experience with these?

Have SATA, Giga NIC, everything. Intel chipset.

Anything special needed in kernel?


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Re: Winsonic Motherboards

2010-07-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell 

On 7/21/10 8:53 AM, David Baron wrote:

Anybody had experience with these?

Have SATA, Giga NIC, everything. Intel chipset.

Anything special needed in kernel?




Who makes the SATA controller? Who makes the NIC? Chipset is standard, 
and unless it's newer Intel it could have a completely different SATA 
controller, even some of the newer Intel's throw in multiple controllers 
(like JMicron and Intel together).



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Re: dosfslabel finds problem, e2fsck does not

2010-07-21 Thread Thomas H. George 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 08:28:59AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 20:09:27 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:43:46PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 15:58:59 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 07:23:31PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:25:42 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > > > > My system, Squeeze, cannot install the latest kernel image because
> > > > > > dosfslabel finds a problem that prevents the installation of 
> > > > > > linux-base.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Trying to resolve this I used e2fsck to check each of the disk
> > > > > > partitions and e2fsck reported all the partitions clean.  However, 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > result of running dosfslabel /dev/hda1 results in the following 
> > > > > > output:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
> > > > > > Differences: (offset:original/backup)
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > > >   Not automatically fixing this.
> > > > > > NO NAME
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This hard drive used to have windoze installed and could be booted. 
> > > > > >  The
> > > > > > windoze partition was reformated to be an ext2 partition.
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > > The first thing I would do is to check for signatures of other
> > > > > filesystems that were left behind on /dev/hda1:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   wipefs /dev/hda1
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > No luck.  wipefs removed two bits
> > > 
> > > That is better in any case; such stale additional signatures cause
> > > problems for blkid.
> 
> Note: I misunderstood you here, assuming that you had actively removed
> the signatures yourself after checking that it made sense to do so.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > I would like to see your output of
> > > 
> > >   wipefs /dev/hda1
> > 
> > No output.
> 
> That is not good; it should show at least the signature of the ext3
> filesystem.
> 
> # wipefs /dev/hda1
> offset   type
> 
> 0x438ext3   [filesystem]
>  LABEL: root
>  UUID:  51e39ea1-999d-4567-8e50-11ad53029e9c
> 
> > There was output
> 
> I need to know exactly what this output was.
> 
> >  before I ran wipe /dev/hda1 the first time.
> > It said it was removing two bits.
> 
> It should have done anything when run without options, unless you have a
> different version of until-linux than the current one for Squeeze. There
> was a reason for my explicitly asking you to read the manpage to make
> sure you understand what you are doing. I thought you understood the
> inherent risk of operations on the filesystem structure and that you
> would make an informed decision if that risk is worthwhile. I cannot
> make any more suggestions to you if you unquestioningly use the tools
> that I propose without regarding the caveats that I point out.

I did read the man page first.  It said wipefs -n /dev/hda1 would do
everything except the write call.  I ran it that way and the output was
much like the example you gave above with a message that two bits would
be removed.  I assumed the two bits were the leftover signature and ran
wipefs again without the -n option.  

Since then the computer was shutdown overnight.  Reboot this morning
stopped in maintenance mode reporting a bad superblock in /dev/hda1.  I
ran e2fsck -b  /dev/hda1 where  was the given alternate
superblock.  The systen then rebooted normally.

Now the output of wipefs -n /dev/hda1 is:


offset   type

0x438ext2   [filesystem]
 UUID:  2428f3c0-3098-448c-9484-587eb9f86e37

> 
> Does "blkid /dev/hda1" still return the correct label, UUID and type?
Yes

/dev/hda1: UUID="2428f3c0-3098-448c-9484-587eb9f86e37" TYPE="ext2" 

Installation of linux-base still fails as described previously and
dosfslabel /dev/hda1 still gives the error message posted prevously but
e2fsck /dev/hda1 says it is clean.

Tom
> 
> > > (to verify that the ext3 signature has the normal offset) and also the
> > > output of
> > > 
> > >   fdisk -l /dev/hda
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Disk /dev/hda: 30 GB, 30754321920 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3739 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> > 
> >Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System 
> > /dev/hda1   1 243 1951866   83  Linux
> > /dev/hda2 2443739280735875  Extended
> > /dev/hda5 244373928073587   83  Linux
> 
> That looks OK to me.
> 
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Re: cloning/saving system

2010-07-21 Thread B. Alexander 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, H.S.  wrote:

> On 21/07/10 08:41 AM, B. Alexander wrote:
>
>
>> 3. Build the new machine with the netinst or businesscard cd. When asked
>> what type of system to build (package selection), uncheck all the boxes.
>>
>> Reboot into your new system, copy pkglist.hostname from step 1 onto the
>> machine. Do the following:
>>
>
> I think you are also supposed to change your sources.list file at this
> point (for example if your machine was using Debian Unstable but if you used
> a Stable or Testing installer).
>
>
True, I neglected to mention this. I usually copy at least
/etc/apt/apt.conf, /etc/apt/sources.list (I use a universal one, so one size
fits all), and /etc/apt/sources.list.d over.


>dpkg --set-selections<  pkglist.hostname
>>   apt-get dselect-upgrade
>>
>> This should give you a system with a nearly identical set of packages that
>> you can then tweak to your hearts content.
>>
>
> I am not sure what you think about /home, but usually that is the more
> important consideration for me. What I usually do is:
> 1. Make note of the UIDs & GIDs of the users (or the order in which they
> were created). 'ls -nl /home' lists those.
> 2. Make a backup of /var as well to restore users' mail (in /var/mail) and
> cronjobs (in /var/spool/cron/crontabs) and perhaps at jobs (in
> /var/spool/cront).
>

Good points. I was under the assumption that you would not be transferring
data over from the old to the new, so I didn't consider it. Of course, if
you are managing more than a few boxes, you also might want to consider a
configuration management tool like cfengine or puppet. Then you could
"script" all of your UIDs and GIDs as well as other configuration details.
For instance, I have a list of "essential" packages (essential for me) that
I install on every box. With cfengine, I can automagically install them as
well as edit/modify that list in one place.


> Finally, backing up /etc and restoring it later prevents you from having to
> do all the configurations again.
>

Be careful with that. Especially if you are "cloning" a box that has been
around for a while. Carte blanche copying of /etc can lead to problems.
There is the problem of "etc drift," even with a fairly recently built box.


>
>  [1] You can actually back these files up and have a pool of different
>> "types" of machine. For instance, I have a workstation packagelist, a
>> laptop
>> list, as well as lists for the various types of bastion hosts in my
>> network,
>> including a wiki host (mediawiki), firewall, backup server, etc.
>>
>
> All good points.
>
> Thanks.
>

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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Mark Allums 

On 7/21/2010 4:17 AM, Jochen Schulz wrote:

Paul Chany:


I decide today that I'm going to upgrade my Debian GNU/Linux Lenny to
Squeeze.

I try to search on debian.org site for an exact howto for this, but
find nothing. Mayhep I don't know how to search effectively?


The keyword you need to look for is "release notes". You will find this
page:

http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/releasenotes

Unfortunately, all of the links on this page lead to a 404 error page.
That means there is no official howto yet. As an approximation, you
might replace "squeeze" with "lenny" in the URL above to look for
lenny's release notes.

Upgrades to squeeze will have its own quirks, for example the
grub->grub2 migration. Maybe wiki.debian.org helps you with these in
case you are going to try it.



Another quirk some may come across is the udev problem.  Upgrading the 
kernel before upgrading udev is essential.  I expect this will be in the 
release notes eventually.  Many people have upgraded successfully 
without knowing this, probably by upgrading both at once, but it is 
worth knowing.


(The current squeeze udev requires a recent kernel version, version 
2.6.26 is too old; see bug #571255.)





(BTW, I have upgraded one of my lenny machines a few weeks ago. Apart
from the grub upgrade, everything went smooth. It is just a little
annoying to keep up with the daily updates on this machine and
postgresql-9.0 isn't installable at the moment.)

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Re: CARTE SON PCI EXEPRESS

2010-07-21 Thread Christopher Judd 
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 05:36:57 Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:14, Michal  wrote:
> >> USB is for flash drives, printers, etc.
> >> Nothing good ever comes of using USB for sound or LAN
> >> 
> >> OP, M-Audio makes good cards as does Asus (Xonar series). Just don't
> >> get anything from Creative. You would have more choice if you went PCI
> >> instead of PCIe, and PCIe doesn't really have any particular benefits
> >> for sound cards (unless you are building a small form-factor computer
> >> that only has PCIe slots or something).
> >> 
> >> Actually, unless you are doing something special with audio (producing
> >> music or DJing or something), it really makes sense to go with the
> >> onboard sound chip. Via Envy24 chips are good, as are most that
> >> conform to the Intel HDA spec (including the very common Realtek
> >> chips that implement that spec (ALC88x and ALC1200)) .
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kelly Clowers
> > 
> > Have external sound card moves the processing off the CPU, good if you
> > have a low powered computer or are trying to get the maximum out of it,
> > gaming for example (Though admittedly most hardcore gaming is done on
> > Windows). You do also get better quality from an external card, but
> > whether you would notice that is down to the person, and debatable
> 
> An onboard sound chip does the same processing as a PCI sound card -
> they are not like winmodems. True, a card can get you better sound, but
> the modern onboard chips are darn good, unlike the ones from say, 6+
> years ago which where pretty sad.
> 

But onboard soundchips are sometimes affected by interference/crosstalk from 
other functions on the mainboard.

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Re: is this result of keylogger? am i hacked?

2010-07-21 Thread Sergey Spiridonov 

Hi

On 07/21/2010 03:40 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote:


One possible reason: your memory is corrupt. Run memtest86 to check
that.


I think memory is not the reason, because some time ago I get broken 
/etc/shells file also on another machine, which is running Lenny.


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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Roger Leigh 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 02:43:11PM +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:45:06 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> >  In
> > the long run, you'll either have to accept KDE4 or use the fork of KDE
> > 3.5 at http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/.
> 
> Or choose something else.  CLI? Fluxbox? Another DE?  Trinity looks 
> promissing, but seems to be focussed on Ubuntu.
> 
> Now that poses a real dilemma.  Which to abandon?  KDE 3.5.x or Debian??

I switched to XFCE, and I'm not looking back.  The awful bloat and
unresponsiveness of KDE4 made it a breath of fresh air!  It does
almost everything I need and I'm pretty happy with it.  Certainly
much happier than I am with the state of current Gnome and KDE.


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[Conclusion] ftp client that understands utf8

2010-07-21 Thread T o n g 
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:03:02 +, T o n g wrote:

> Is there a ftp client in Debian that understands utf8, i.e, handling
> utf8 file or directory names correct?

Thanks every one who replied.

Yes, both lftp and ncftp worked fine.

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Re: is this result of keylogger? am i hacked?

2010-07-21 Thread Aaron Toponce 
On 07/21/2010 06:39 AM, Sergey Spiridonov wrote:
> I found yesterday that some files in /etc/ (/etc/shells and
> /etc/default/default/schroot) are changed. They contain data which I was
> typing on keyboard. Strange enough, this files are not overwritten, but
> contain data they should contain + somewhere in the middle or at the
> beginning of the file they contain something I typed in browser or in
> command line in X window system.
> 
> This looks like that I am hacked and somebody try to get my passwords.
> But may be there is another explanation, like broken package? Or can
> somebody suggest, how can I check it? Reinstalling everything from
> scratch is a lot of work...
> 
> System is squeeze, upgraded from lenny few weeks ago.

Check 'last' and 'lastb' to see if there are any other logins or login
attempts other than yourself.

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Re: is this result of keylogger? am i hacked?

2010-07-21 Thread Chris Davies 
Sergey Spiridonov  wrote:
> I think memory is not the reason, because some time ago I get broken 
> /etc/shells file also on another machine, which is running Lenny.

Broken memory. Broken kernel (possibly but not necessarily the filesystem
driver). Hacked machine. Broken hardware.

For breakage of something as significant as /etc/shells, I'd prioritise
investigations in that order. Memtest86+ is a no-brainer, so let it
test your machine. Are you using a kernel that's got known issues with
whatever filesystem you are using for /etc? (Have you looked?)

What was the outcome of your investigation into the previous situation?

Chris


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Re: Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-21 Thread Clive Standbridge 
> 1. I do not know how to get image from a cd/dvd - I believe by simple
> dd-ing it will not work w/ checksum, but some more options should be
> used.

You might want to read
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm
- especially the section "Accurately Reading a CD Device".

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Re: dosfslabel finds problem, e2fsck does not

2010-07-21 Thread Florian Kulzer 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:25:30 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 08:28:59AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:25:42 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > > > > > My system, Squeeze, cannot install the latest kernel image because
> > > > > > > dosfslabel finds a problem that prevents the installation of 
> > > > > > > linux-base.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Trying to resolve this I used e2fsck to check each of the disk
> > > > > > > partitions and e2fsck reported all the partitions clean.  
> > > > > > > However, the
> > > > > > > result of running dosfslabel /dev/hda1 results in the following 
> > > > > > > output:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
> > > > > > > Differences: (offset:original/backup)

[...]

> I did read the man page first.  It said wipefs -n /dev/hda1 would do
> everything except the write call.  I ran it that way and the output was
> much like the example you gave above with a message that two bits would
> be removed.  I assumed the two bits were the leftover signature and ran
> wipefs again without the -n option.  
> 
> Since then the computer was shutdown overnight.  Reboot this morning
> stopped in maintenance mode reporting a bad superblock in /dev/hda1.  I
> ran e2fsck -b  /dev/hda1 where  was the given alternate
> superblock.  The systen then rebooted normally.
> 
> Now the output of wipefs -n /dev/hda1 is:
> 
> 
> offset   type
> 
> 0x438ext2   [filesystem]
>  UUID:  2428f3c0-3098-448c-9484-587eb9f86e37
> 
> > 
> > Does "blkid /dev/hda1" still return the correct label, UUID and type?
> Yes
> 
> /dev/hda1: UUID="2428f3c0-3098-448c-9484-587eb9f86e37" TYPE="ext2" 

OK, that is all fine. You did not give the details about how you used
wipefs in your previous message, so I was getting worried that I might
have inadvertently caused you to wipe out the ext3 signature.
 
> Installation of linux-base still fails as described previously and
> dosfslabel /dev/hda1 still gives the error message posted prevously but
> e2fsck /dev/hda1 says it is clean.

So we still have to find out why the postinst script runs dosfslabel on
an ext3 partition. Looking at the script, it seems to assemble a list of
filesystems and their types by analyzing /etc/fstab. I would therefore
like to see your output for:

  grep -E 'hda1|2428f3c0|vfat|msdos|ntfs' /etc/fstab

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Re: dosfslabel finds problem, e2fsck does not

2010-07-21 Thread Thomas H. George 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 09:13:59PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:25:30 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 08:28:59AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:25:42 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > > > > > > My system, Squeeze, cannot install the latest kernel image 
> > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > dosfslabel finds a problem that prevents the installation of 
> > > > > > > > linux-base.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Trying to resolve this I used e2fsck to check each of the disk
> > > > > > > > partitions and e2fsck reported all the partitions clean.  
> > > > > > > > However, the
> > > > > > > > result of running dosfslabel /dev/hda1 results in the following 
> > > > > > > > output:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
> > > > > > > > Differences: (offset:original/backup)
> 
> [...]
> 
> > I did read the man page first.  It said wipefs -n /dev/hda1 would do
> > everything except the write call.  I ran it that way and the output was
> > much like the example you gave above with a message that two bits would
> > be removed.  I assumed the two bits were the leftover signature and ran
> > wipefs again without the -n option.  
> > 
> > Since then the computer was shutdown overnight.  Reboot this morning
> > stopped in maintenance mode reporting a bad superblock in /dev/hda1.  I
> > ran e2fsck -b  /dev/hda1 where  was the given alternate
> > superblock.  The systen then rebooted normally.
> > 
> > Now the output of wipefs -n /dev/hda1 is:
> > 
> > 
> > offset   type
> > 
> > 0x438ext2   [filesystem]
> >  UUID:  2428f3c0-3098-448c-9484-587eb9f86e37
> > 
> > > 
> > > Does "blkid /dev/hda1" still return the correct label, UUID and type?
> > Yes
> > 
> > /dev/hda1: UUID="2428f3c0-3098-448c-9484-587eb9f86e37" TYPE="ext2" 
> 
> OK, that is all fine. You did not give the details about how you used
> wipefs in your previous message, so I was getting worried that I might
> have inadvertently caused you to wipe out the ext3 signature.
>  
> > Installation of linux-base still fails as described previously and
> > dosfslabel /dev/hda1 still gives the error message posted prevously but
> > e2fsck /dev/hda1 says it is clean.
> 
> So we still have to find out why the postinst script runs dosfslabel on
> an ext3 partition. Looking at the script, it seems to assemble a list of
> filesystems and their types by analyzing /etc/fstab. I would therefore
> like to see your output for:
> 
>   grep -E 'hda1|2428f3c0|vfat|msdos|ntfs' /etc/fstab
> 
The output is:


/dev/hda1   /temp   ext2rw,user,auto0   2
/dev/sdc/media/fuze vfatrw,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/sg1/usbdrive   vfatrw,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/sda/media/usb1 vfatrw,user,noauto  0   0

I have copied everything on /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5 on to a backup drive
and am considering a complete reformat of /dev/hda.

Tom
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Re: is this result of keylogger? am i hacked?

2010-07-21 Thread François TOURDE 
Le 14811ième jour après Epoch,
Sergey Spiridonov écrivait:

> Hi
>
> On 07/21/2010 03:40 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote:
>
>> One possible reason: your memory is corrupt. Run memtest86 to check
>> that.
>
> I think memory is not the reason, because some time ago I get broken
> /etc/shells file also on another machine, which is running Lenny.

If you are so confident, why asking here?

1) Try memtest, it's a good idea.

2) Unplug you box from the net, to avoid more corruption

3) Check the syslog about disk errors

4) Check colocs/friends/family for any acces to your box

5) Tell us more about software installed, especially non Debian packaged
software.

6) If you are creationist, ask God ;)


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Transfering iceweasel bookmark files to new system

2010-07-21 Thread Gary Roach 

Hi;

I am replacing my oldest 1GHZ box with a new 2.65 x 4 GHz box. Both are 
running Debian Squeeze. How do I transfer the iceweasel setup from the 
one computer to the other and combine the bookmarks from the two units. 
As an aside, is there any way to determine the purpose of all of the 
files (and their location) that Debian installs with a package.


Gary R


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Re: dosfslabel finds problem, e2fsck does not

2010-07-21 Thread Florian Kulzer 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 15:53:36 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 09:13:59PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:25:30 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 08:28:59AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:25:42 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > > > > > > > My system, Squeeze, cannot install the latest kernel image 
> > > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > dosfslabel finds a problem that prevents the installation of 
> > > > > > > > > linux-base.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Trying to resolve this I used e2fsck to check each of the disk
> > > > > > > > > partitions and e2fsck reported all the partitions clean.  
> > > > > > > > > However, the
> > > > > > > > > result of running dosfslabel /dev/hda1 results in the 
> > > > > > > > > following output:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
> > > > > > > > > Differences: (offset:original/backup)

[...]

> > > Installation of linux-base still fails as described previously and
> > > dosfslabel /dev/hda1 still gives the error message posted prevously but
> > > e2fsck /dev/hda1 says it is clean.
> > 
> > So we still have to find out why the postinst script runs dosfslabel on
> > an ext3 partition. Looking at the script, it seems to assemble a list of
> > filesystems and their types by analyzing /etc/fstab. I would therefore
> > like to see your output for:
> > 
> >   grep -E 'hda1|2428f3c0|vfat|msdos|ntfs' /etc/fstab
> > 
> The output is:
> 
> /dev/hda1 /temp   ext2rw,user,auto0   2
> /dev/sdc  /media/fuze vfatrw,user,noauto  0   0
> /dev/sg1  /usbdrive   vfatrw,user,noauto  0   0
> /dev/sda  /media/usb1 vfatrw,user,noauto  0   0

Nothing here to make the postinst script identify /dev/hda1 as a vfat
partition. (By the way, why do you have "etx2" instead of "ext3" as the
type?)

> I have copied everything on /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5 on to a backup drive
> and am considering a complete reformat of /dev/hda.

I would think that it should be enough to wipe out and reconstruct the
one problematic partition.

You can try one more thing before that. Here is a list of all the
configuration files that the postinst script seems to take into account
when searching for known block devices (you can run the awk-cut
combination yourself to make sure that your version of linux-base uses
the same files):

$ awk '/my @config_files/,/^$/{if(/path =>.*\//) print $3}' 
/var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-base.postinst | cut -d\' -f2
/etc/fstab
/boot/grub/menu.lst
/etc/default/grub
/etc/lilo.conf
/etc/silo.conf
/etc/quik.conf
/etc/yaboot.conf
/etc/elilo.conf
/etc/default/extlinux
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules
/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
/etc/uswsusp.conf
/etc/crypttab
/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
/etc/hdparm.conf

You can check if one of these files is present on your system and
mentions /dev/hda1 as type vfat. If that should turn out to be the case
then it might be enough to remove that reference to solve your problem.

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Re: Transfering iceweasel bookmark files to new system

2010-07-21 Thread Thierry Chatelet 
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 22:37:20 Gary Roach wrote:
> Hi;
> 
> I am replacing my oldest 1GHZ box with a new 2.65 x 4 GHz box. Both are
> running Debian Squeeze. How do I transfer the iceweasel setup from the
> one computer to the other and combine the bookmarks from the two units.
> As an aside, is there any way to determine the purpose of all of the
> files (and their location) that Debian installs with a package.
> 
> Gary R
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Re: Transfering iceweasel bookmark files to new system

2010-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson 

On 07/21/2010 03:37 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

Hi;

I am replacing my oldest 1GHZ box with a new 2.65 x 4 GHz box. Both are
running Debian Squeeze. How do I transfer the iceweasel setup from the
one computer to the other and combine the bookmarks from the two units.


Bookmarks->"Organize Bookmarks"


As an aside, is there any way to determine the purpose of all of the
files (and their location) that Debian installs with a package.



Google is how I learned to coy a places.sqlite file from one machine 
to the other.


Reusing an in-place .mozilla/firefox tree when migrating from i386 
to amd64 proved subtly problematic, though, in many ways.


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Re: Transfering iceweasel bookmark files to new system

2010-07-21 Thread Kelly Clowers 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 13:37, Gary Roach  wrote:
> Hi;
>
> I am replacing my oldest 1GHZ box with a new 2.65 x 4 GHz box. Both are
> running Debian Squeeze. How do I transfer the iceweasel setup from the one
> computer to the other and combine the bookmarks from the two units. As an
> aside, is there any way to determine the purpose of all of the files (and
> their location) that Debian installs with a package.

A list of files that are installed from a given package can be seen with
dpkg -L 

But this will not show files the program creates, in this case, that
includes the directory ~/.mozilla/ and everything under it.

If you are using pre-3.0 iceweasel (I have no idea what version is shipping
where), the main bookmarks file is bookmarks.html in
~/.mozilla/firefox//

Bookmarks are still written out to that file in 3.x and copying it
will work, but
you will lose additional information that is in the sqlite database
"places.sqlite",
so just copy it instead if you use 3.x

If you want, you can just copy the whole ~./mozilla/ dir to a new computer, and
you will get everything - bookmarks, cookies, saved forms, adblock lists, etc.
(this might not work if you moved to a different architecture, e.g. x86 to PPC,
I have never tried that - then again it might).

If you want to keep bookmarks in sync in general, take a look at Mozilla Weave
aka Firefox Sync.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Transfering iceweasel bookmark files to new system

2010-07-21 Thread Kelly Clowers 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 15:00, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> On 07/21/2010 03:37 PM, Gary Roach wrote:
>>
>> Hi;
>>
>> I am replacing my oldest 1GHZ box with a new 2.65 x 4 GHz box. Both are
>> running Debian Squeeze. How do I transfer the iceweasel setup from the
>> one computer to the other and combine the bookmarks from the two units.
>
> Bookmarks->"Organize Bookmarks"
>
>> As an aside, is there any way to determine the purpose of all of the
>> files (and their location) that Debian installs with a package.
>>
>
> Google is how I learned to coy a places.sqlite file from one machine to the
> other.
>
> Reusing an in-place .mozilla/firefox tree when migrating from i386 to amd64
> proved subtly problematic, though, in many ways.

What kind of problems? I don't remember having problems... although maybe
that was the 2.x era, or maybe I just don't remember it.


Cheers,
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emacs in etch vs. unicode

2010-07-21 Thread jidanni 
Help, how can I see other than \233\233 bytecode when using emacs -nw
with this old version of emacs?
emacs21:
  Installed: 21.4a+1-3etch
I did even use LC_ALL=zh_TW.UTF-8


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Re: Transfering iceweasel bookmark files to new system

2010-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson 

On 07/21/2010 05:33 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 15:00, Ron Johnson  wrote:

[snip]

Reusing an in-place .mozilla/firefox tree when migrating from i386 to amd64
proved subtly problematic, though, in many ways.


What kind of problems? I don't remember having problems... although maybe
that was the 2.x era, or maybe I just don't remember it.



Subtle things like plugins not working properly.

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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze - Howto?

2010-07-21 Thread Greg Madden 
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 02:13:20 Paul Chany wrote:
> Jordon Bedwell  writes:
> > On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:00 AM, Paul Chany wrote:
> >> Could you please drop me the dd command for this task?
> >
> > Here is a little article that explains it (while it might seem out
> > of date it still works ~ gotta love linux for that)
> > http://www.mckeay.net/2004/10/18/using-dd-to-clone-a-hd/
>
> Can't open this web page.. I'm searching for another page..
>
> man dd is outdated, info dd isn't exist..
>
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> You can freely correct me in my English.
> http://csanyi-pal.info


 'dd' works well and is on all/most *nix boxes. It takes lots of time though, 
using one of the other imaging apps is much faster, if time is an issue.

There are numerous rescue cd's , most ,afaik, use 'partimage' .

Clonezilla, system rescue cd, etc. 

'dd' is a part off coreutils, it is a 'required' package of Lenny.
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Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

2010-07-21 Thread Rob Owens 
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:28:00AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> So, what should I do for the distro install cds - regarding both -
> spyware and viruses?
> 
> If we speak about checksumming - sometimes it fails though I believe
> the problem lays in not accurate or whatever downloading, the images
> being - I believe - unmodified... - Redownloading is hard because of
> bandwith.
> 

You need to make sure the md5sum or sha1sum, etc. is correct, otherwise
your iso either: 

1) did not download correctly
or 
2) has been tampered with

The md5sum files usually have gpg signatures that you can also check.
You might need to do some research on gpg/pgp to understand how that
works.

I saw you mentioned live cds as well.  Debian has the tools to build
your own live cd.  The command line tool is live-helper, and there's a
GUI called live-magic.

-Rob


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Re: Grub, MBR's on several hard drives?

2010-07-21 Thread Rob Owens 
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:27:45PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> I recall reading that if the system has multiple hard drives it is a
> good idea mbr's on each of the hard drives all pointing to the same root
> directory located on one of the hard drives.
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> If this is correct how is this best done with grub?
> 
I think this applies mainly for RAID configurations.  If you only have
grub installed on one drive, and that drive goes bad, you will end up
with a usable system but no way to boot it.

-Rob


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Прoвeрки по-нoвому

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| Рeeстры - пoдачa c июня?  
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9. Haлoговая наклaднaя - чтo дeлaть c нaклaдными cтаpше 3 мecяцeв. Зависимoсть 
нaлoгового 
   кpедитa oт контрaгентов: «неcпособный», недейcтвительный догoвoр, 
пpекращение 
   деятeльнoсти - oсложнения пoследствий. ЗАПOЛHЕНИЕ налoговой нaклaднoй: нoвые 
«зaцепки», 
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необxодимо 
   обpaтить вниманиe (нoвая пpактика нa прoверках), oтсутcтвие прaвa нa 
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прeдоставление 
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учeтом 
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пpизнания 
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(личнaя) 
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налoгов.

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практикa 
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продaже 
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Дeклapации, 
   нaчинaя c июня 2010. Фактичecкое предoставление нe нa терpитории Укpaины:

Re: Transfering iceweasel bookmark files to new system

2010-07-21 Thread Camaleón 
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:36:34 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 07/21/2010 05:33 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 15:00, Ron Johnson wrote:
> [snip]
>>> Reusing an in-place .mozilla/firefox tree when migrating from i386 to
>>> amd64 proved subtly problematic, though, in many ways.
>>
>> What kind of problems? I don't remember having problems... although
>> maybe that was the 2.x era, or maybe I just don't remember it.
>>
>>
> Subtle things like plugins not working properly.

On default installations, Iceweasel plugins are installed in a common 
path (such "/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins") and not on each user's profile, 
so AFAIK, moving/copying a profile (~./mozilla) should not interfere with 
this.

Problems can arise when transferring profiles between different browser 
releases, though.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


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