Re: no network/eth0 with etch

2007-07-12 Thread Nick Adie

On 7/11/07, Ralph Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 07/11/2007 11:49 AM, Robert Cates wrote:
> Hello Debian Users,
>
> Does Etch (i386/i486) with the (standard) 2.6.18 kernel have a problem
> recognizing (some) network cards?
>
> I have a problem ever since apt-get dist-upgrade from Sarge to Etch.
> Etch with the standard 2.6.18 kernel does not find/recognize my network
> cards.  Sarge (3.1) did and ran fine, Etch does not, and I even bought a
> new network card (which has a different chip) and it still does not.
> Not even the Debian installer from the CD1 ISO auto-detects the cards,
> or accepts my manual selection.
>
> I have NetGear FA311 adapters - the older one has the National
> Semiconductor chip (DP83816AVNG) which worked fine with Sarge (2.6.8
> kernel) and the newer one has the Realtek RTL8139D chip.
>
> Oh, what is sit0?  When I give >> ifconfig -a I get the loopback and
> sit0 interfaces(?).
>
> All advice/suggestions will be greatly appreciated!

Robert,

I suspect sit0 is explained in the output of that command:
...
sit0  Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
...

For your network problem, have you checked the list archives?  I know
this has come up before.  In fact, I have the 8139 RealTek chip and had
problems upgrading.  Also there are some cautions in the the release
notes for etch upgrades that may apply to this:

5.1.7. Asynchronous network initialization may cause unpredictable
behavior

---

On systems which use `udev' to load drivers for network interfaces, it
is possible due to the asynchronous nature of `udev' that the network
driver will not be loaded before `/etc/init.d/networking' runs on
system boot.

Here's one thread that may help where ACPI was the culprit:
Subject: Re: 2.6.18-4-686 broke 8139too
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/289791

Give us more info, as others have suggested.

Good luck!

Ralph Katz


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Robert

I had problems with my on-board nvia, posted solution to debain forum.  In
escense had to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.21 from backports to get it to
work.  Installed a realtech in order to download and install then used the
on-board and removed the realtech.

Regards
Nick


Exim4, GMail TLS error?

2007-07-12 Thread David A.
Hi all, I've been trying to forward mail from my SID box to my GMail
box.
I've followed http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 and actually
successfully managed to get some mails through!

However then I ran into problems, Exim now says: "A TLS packet with
unexpected length was received." when exim tries to send mails to
gmail.
Running unstable.

Any hints?

Regards, David.

Below is some output when running $ sudo exim4 -d -M 1I8Y2t-kk-SF

  SMTP>> AUTH PLAIN 
tls_do_write(bfa043ec, 33)
gnutls_record_send(SSL, bfa043ec, 33)
outbytes=33
waiting for data on socket
Calling gnutls_record_recv(8110de0, bfa023ec, 4096)
read response data: size=20
  SMTP<< 235 2.7.0 Accepted
plain authenticator yielded 0
  SMTP>> MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=41471
tls_do_write(bfa043ec, 25)
gnutls_record_send(SSL, bfa043ec, 25)
outbytes=25
waiting for data on socket
Calling gnutls_record_recv(8110de0, bfa023ec, 4096)
LOG: MAIN
  TLS recv error on connection to gmail-smtp.l.google.com
[64.233.183.109]: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.
ok=0 send_quit=0 send_rset=1 continue_more=0 yield=1 first_address is
not NULL
tls_close(): shutting down TLS
LOG: MAIN
  Remote host gmail-smtp.l.google.com [64.233.183.109] closed
connection in response to MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=41471
set_process_info: 29300 delivering 1I8Y2t-kk-SF: just tried gmail-
smtp.l.google.com [64.233.183.109] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: result DEFER
added retry item for T:gmail-smtp.l.google.com:64.233.183.109:587:
errno=-18 more_errno=0,A flags=2


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Script polluted by DOS formatting

2007-07-12 Thread Francesco Pietra
A script downloaded to a desktop i386/etch/gnome from Amber web site, edited on
the desktop with gnome text editor, then sent scp to a computing machine amd64,
turned out to be polluted by DOS formatting.

The computing program was prevented from reading the polluted lines.

I tried

dos2unix scriptfilename

which failed to clean the script. Opening the script with vim did not reveal
the problem. It was only

od -c scriptfilename > od.dmp

that revealed non printing characters, octal 302 followed by octal 240 at each
script line.

I was unfamiliar with such affairs and wonder about the origin of the
pollution. The desktop has wine installed (for a Windows-based database that
finds no efficient substitute in unix) and may be (don't remember) the database
had been launched before editing of the said script.

1) Is wine likely to have caused the pollution?

2) Is the above dos2unix command correctly issued?

Thanks

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MSI PC60G wireless adaptor problem

2007-07-12 Thread I M
Hi.I recently bought a MSI PC60G wireless card and i am experiencing problem 
with configuring it on debian etch.I googled up and i found that it uses Ralink 
chipset and i got Ralink RT61 driver for linux.I managed to configure and 
install the driver .. but can't get connected.Both Wlassistent and 
gnome-network admin tool recognize the card...connect to the network ,recieves 
the SSID but when trying to dhcp(dhclient connect to achieve addresses) both 
fail.The AP is configured with dhcp and as far as i know i think it's a  
Mircosoft dhcp server.Could this be the problem? I tryed it on windows xp and 
it's working just fine.Can somebody help me?

   
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Re: Eeek?! smbmount is deprecated?!

2007-07-12 Thread Wackojacko

Kent West wrote:

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 09:04:29PM -0500, Kent West wrote:


[a bunch of resolved cifs/smbfs stuff... ]

 
And finally, the last issue remains: if mount normally must be run by 
root, how can I give non-root users access to mount shares without 
knowing before-hand what shares to pre-populate /etc/fstab with?


It would be much easier just to continue using smbmount, but like I 
say, I'm trying to be a good, forward-going sort of guy rather than 
living in the fading past





I;m jumping in here. What makes you think smbmount is going away? its
still listed as a file in the sid versions of samba stuff.

The man page, as in ...


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> man smbmount



DESCRIPTION
   smbmount   mounts  a  Linux  SMB  filesystem.  It  is  
usually  invoked  as


   WARNING: smbmount is deprecated and not maintained any 
longer.   mount.cifs

   (mount -t cifs) should be used instead of smbmount.



maybe the solution to your problem is to go right around it and use
automount (can you use that with samba? I think so) and just set up
automounts for everything that could be mounted.
  
I'm not really familiar with automount, but doesn't it require you to 
pre-define the available mounts (as your question indicates)? That would 
prevent Joe User 1 on his Windows box from sharing out a folder on 
Saturday evening so Jane User 2 on the Linux box could get to the 
pictures from the birthday party that day, unless the admin of the Linux 
box had already foreseen that Joe User 1 would be doing that, in which 
case I suspect the admin could be doing a lot better things with his 
prophetic gift than adminning a Linux box.


But as mentioned, I don't really understand automount, so that might be 
an option for me to investigate.


Thanks!



I have had no problem mounting windows shares on my debian box.  For one 
of mounts I use LinNeighborhood (like Win Xp Network Neighbourhood) 
which allows you to view and mount available shares on the network. 
It's basically a front end to smbmount.


HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: Eeek?! smbmount is deprecated?!

2007-07-12 Thread Wackojacko

> Wackojacko wrote:
I have had no problem mounting windows shares on my debian box.  For one 
of mounts I use LinNeighborhood (like Win Xp Network Neighbourhood) 

  ^^
s/of/off :)

KDE also has a quick browser menu for samba shares if you just want to 
view the contents.  You can mount them this way also but you need to 
know the /path of the share.


HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: where is tzconfig ?

2007-07-12 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Florian Kulzer wrote:
[...]
> The only thing I can think of is simulating to remove libc6, like so:
> 
> sudo dpkg --simulate --remove libc6
> 
> This produces lots of warnings like these:
> 
> libboost-thread1.33.1 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1).
> libavformat1d depends on libc6 (>= 2.6-1).
> libwv2-1c2 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1).
> maxima depends on libc6 (>= 2.5-5).
> 
> This can be processed further (grep, awk, etc.) to find installed
> packages that depend on a specific version of libc6. One probably has to
> be careful to take the "greater or equal" dependencies into account
> properly.
> 
Thats a nice idea and it can list the packages dependig on a newer
version ob libc6, e.g., with a sh-compatible shell and awk

sudo dpkg --simulate -r libc6 2>&1 | awk '/libc6 \(.*2\.6/ {print $1}'

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Re[2]: Intel 965 chipset and Debian Etch AMD64

2007-07-12 Thread drop669
Hello,

Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 5:48:10 PM, you wrote:

>> >> It seems, Debian Etch AMD64 installer is blind to CDROM on Q965 Intel
>> >> chipset. On SATA I have only one HDD and I have CDROM as primary
>> >> driver on PATA.
>> >> What can I do?
>> >
>> > In your bios, try setting the SATA to compatability mode indstead of AHCI
>>
>> Thank you, but I tried this.
>>
>> BTW, is this problem may be only Debain-related or rather
>> kernel-related?

> I believe it's kernel related. I recently purchased a G965RYCK board that had
> a similar (if not identical) problem. My solution (going from memory here[1])
> was to set the BIOS options to "legacy" or "compatibility" mode and to use
> one of the daily netinstall builds for testing (not Etch[2]). I also 
> installed the 2.6.21 kernel from sid. It was more of a headache than I've had
> before installing debian, but not a huge deal.

> As I recall, the problem in my case was related to the Marvell PATA controller
> and the kernel's lack of a driver for it. The symptoms were sluggish reads
> from the CD and then the installer saying that it couldn't detect the 
> installation cdrom.

Well, can be Debian Etch installed without access to CD-ROM, maybe
from HDD? Can be netinst copied into HDD in such way?


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Re: Re: revert to Etch from Lenny/Sid

2007-07-12 Thread Jon Dowland
kedmond wrote:
> I found another site, http://www.funzt.info/?p=76#more-76,
> I found instructions on how to install pidgin properly,
> without doing the terrible thing I did.

The pidgin package in unstable can be built using the
libraries and headers in stable, at least at the moment.
The following would build and install the pidgin package,
without upgrading your whole system:

a) add an unstable *source* line to your
   /etc/apt/sources.list, e.g.
   deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main
b) apt-get update
c) apt-get build-dep pidgin
d) apt-get install fakeroot build-essential
e) fakeroot apt-get source -b pidgin
f) sudo dpkg -i pidgin*deb

Step e) will take a comparatively long time.

Substitute 'sudo' in step f) for 'su -c' or similar if you
do not use sudo.

If you already have gaim installed, remove it before step
f).

If you want to conserve disk-space, keep a copy of what
packages are installed before step c), using "dpkg
--get-selections". You can then revert the package database
to this state using "dpkg --set-selections" followed by
"dpkg -r -a".  You'd do these steps before f).

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I compile an identical ssh, but it behaves differently

2007-07-12 Thread Antonios Christofides
(Sorry if this is received multiple times, I'm confused with newsgroup 
gatewaying.)

I have etch, it has openssh-server and openssh-client installed, and
they work fine.  I do this:

apt-get source openssh-server 
cd openssh-* 
I correct debian/changelog so that version is 4.3p2-custom1 
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc 
dpkg -i ../openssh-server_4.3p2-custom1_i386.deb \
../openssh-client_4.3p2-custom1_i386.deb

Result: when I ssh into the server from another machine, I get the
message "Bad line 1 in /etc/default/login" (/etc/default/login contains
one line only, umask 022).  With the Debian packages it wasn't giving me
any such message.

Why my compiled ssh does not have exactly the same behaviour as
Debian's?


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Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread KLEIN Stéphane
Hello,

On my box, I use plain text to store my passwords but it isn't secure. 
What cli and/or web software can I use to store my password (account) in 
encrypted format ? What do you use ? 

If it's possible I would like collaborate system.

Thanks for your help.
Stephane


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Re: people.debian.org down?

2007-07-12 Thread steef

Kumar Appaiah wrote:

Dear Debian user,

Could someone confirm that people.debian.org is down? I am unable to
reach it from here (Chennai, India).

Thanks.

Kumar
  

can't reach the server from here: groningen, netherlands.

steef


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Re: people.debian.org down?

2007-07-12 Thread Shams Fantar

Kumar Appaiah wrote:

Dear Debian user,

Could someone confirm that people.debian.org is down? I am unable to
reach it from here (Chennai, India).

Thanks.

Kumar
  


Yes, people.debian.org, debian.org too, but you can to access at the web 
site here by example : http://www.au.debian.org/


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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 12:28:33PM +, KLEIN St?phane wrote:
> 
> On my box, I use plain text to store my passwords but it isn't secure. 
> What cli and/or web software can I use to store my password (account) in 
> encrypted format ? What do you use ? 
> 
> If it's possible I would like collaborate system.
> 

It depends (as always).  What do you mean by "it isn't secure".  Nothing
is totally secure.  If your home directory is only readable by you, the
file is in your home directory (or below), and is only readable by you,
what more do you want?  If this isn't secure enough, what else in your
home directory are you concerned about.  For example, I have a lot of
files (documents) in my home directory that are at least as sensitive as
my passwords.

This is the standard level of UNIX security.  Further options include:
encrypting each file with gnupg or SSL

encrypting the whole /home partition which requires a password
to decrypt it at boot

using the pam module (I forget the name) that lets each user
have an encrypted root and pam transparently encrypts/decrypts
it with a key based on your login password.  Since the login
password is only stored on the computer in hash form, that
sounds secure.


When you go beyond standard (historic) UNIX security, it gets more
complicated and you have to idenify the security threats that you want
to protect against.  So what are they?

Doug.


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Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread KLEIN Stéphane
Hello,



On my box, I use plain text to store my passwords but it isn't secure. 

What cli and/or web software can I use to store my password (account) in 

encrypted format ? What do you use ? 



If it's possible I would like collaborate system.



Thanks for your help.

Stephane


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Re: Meta-R key doesn't exist

2007-07-12 Thread Peter Daum


Antonio Regidor García wrote:
> I don't know if this is a bug, and where to report it, so I tried this list. 
> The problem is that 
> my keyboard map has a Meta-L (or Alt-L, or Alt-Left) key, but not a 
> corresponding Meta-R key, 
> both in X and the console, using Spanish or English keymaps. The key that 
> should be the Meta-R 
> key is mapped in X (according to xkbprint) to "ISO-Level3-Shift". I don't 
> know which key it is 
> mapped to in the console, but certainly it is not Meta-R.
> Is this a feature of Debian or a bug? It happens with other keyboards?

Chances are, that you also don't have a right "Alt" key on your keyboard, but 
one
labeled "Alt Gr" instead, that is intended for entering non-ascii characters 
(see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key). If you don't need any of these (I am 
not
familiar with the Spanish keyboard layout, but I assume there are some accented
keys on it), you can simple redefine the AltGr key as Meta_R in your X server's
keyboard layout (If you have a newer 105-keys, you can also use on of those 
"Menu"
or "Windows" keys)

> This problem makes Emacs very difficult to use without remapping the keyboard.

? Emacs shouldn't care about which Alt key you use

Regards,
  Peter Daum


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Re: Eeek?! smbmount is deprecated?!

2007-07-12 Thread tejas
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Kent West yazmış:
> 
> So it appears there's something screwy about the cifs filesystem-type.
> So this issue remains.
> 
> Another one of my issues was that smbmount all of a sudden (after my
> rebuild) started mounting the shares with the mount point being owned by
> root. With this working "mount -t smbfs" command, the addition of the
> uid= option takes care of that issue.
> 
> And finally, the last issue remains: if mount normally must be run by
> root, how can I give non-root users access to mount shares without
> knowing before-hand what shares to pre-populate /etc/fstab with?
> 
> It would be much easier just to continue using smbmount, but like I say,
> I'm trying to be a good, forward-going sort of guy rather than living in
> the fading past
> 
> Thanks!
> 
Here is my scripts to sync laptop and desktop:

sync-lapt-desk:
#! /bin/sh
echo "enter the sudo pass:"
sudo /home/tejas/Desktop/bagla #mount script

if [ "$?" != 0 ]; then echo "couldn't mount"; exit 1 ; fi

echo "syncing firefox..." && rsync -rv --delete
/home/tejas/Desktop/firefox/ /your/firefox/profile/ && echo "example1
synced."


echo "unmounting shares..."
sudo /home/tejas/Desktop/ayir # unmount script

bagla:(mount script)
SHA="masaustu firefox thunderbird Downloads"
if [ `whoami` != "root" ]; then echo "you must be root."; exit; fi
for i in $SHA; do
echo "mounting $i..."
mount -t cifs -o iocharset=utf8,user=hede //192.168.2.2/$i
/home/tejas/Desktop/$i
sleep 3
if [ "$?" == "0" ]; then echo "mounted $i."; fi
done

and ayir: (unmount script)

#! /bin/bash
SHA="masaustu firefox thunderbird Downloads"
if [ `whoami` != "root" ]; then echo "you must be root"; exit; fi

for i in $SHA; do
sudo umount -l /home/tejas/Desktop/$i
sleep 5
done

Notice here; this script mounts as a root, but sync as a normal user.
And IIRC, this script works. (I tried it on Dapper and Etch.)
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Re: Eeek?! smbmount is deprecated?!

2007-07-12 Thread tejas
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And, I forgot one point. I solve most of CIFS mount errors by chancing
permissions of share. And try this also: Don't change permissions, but
remove or disable share, and share it again. This maybe work.

Mert

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Re: Help buying Economic Printer

2007-07-12 Thread Cousin Stanley

> Isn't it the Texans that love 40C weather
> and say "Oh, but its a  _dry_  heat" ?  

Doug 

  That's the mantra of the cactus-leagers  :-)

  I am a Texan transplanted to Arizona
  a little over 25 years ago 
   

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Re: revert to Etch from Lenny/Sid

2007-07-12 Thread kedmond
Thanks a lot, Jon!  that's a great help.

-kedmond


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Re: people.debian.org down?

2007-07-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 04:03:51PM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
> Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 10:31:02PM -0700, Paul A. Scott wrote:
> >>I can't ping in from here (Tucson, Arizona, USA).
> >
> 
> I can not gain access, and i am in Australia.
> 
I'm in the US and I am not able to access (tried ssh and http).

Regards,

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Re: I compile an identical ssh, but it behaves differently

2007-07-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 02:36:18PM +0300, Antonios Christofides wrote:
> (Sorry if this is received multiple times, I'm confused with newsgroup 
> gatewaying.)
> 
> I have etch, it has openssh-server and openssh-client installed, and
> they work fine.  I do this:
> 
> apt-get source openssh-server 
> cd openssh-* 
> I correct debian/changelog so that version is 4.3p2-custom1 
> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc 
> dpkg -i ../openssh-server_4.3p2-custom1_i386.deb \
> ../openssh-client_4.3p2-custom1_i386.deb
> 
> Result: when I ssh into the server from another machine, I get the
> message "Bad line 1 in /etc/default/login" (/etc/default/login contains
> one line only, umask 022).  With the Debian packages it wasn't giving me
> any such message.
> 
> Why my compiled ssh does not have exactly the same behaviour as
> Debian's?
> 
Could be any number of things.  To eliminate as many variables as
possible, you should be building inside of a pbuilder.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 12:28:33PM +, KLEIN Stéphane wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On my box, I use plain text to store my passwords but it isn't secure. 
> What cli and/or web software can I use to store my password (account) in 
> encrypted format ? What do you use ? 
> 
I would not go with web-based as it is far too insecure.  I personally
like MyPasswordSafe, but it is Qt-based.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Magnus Therning
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:05:06 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 12:28:33PM +, KLEIN Stéphane wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> On my box, I use plain text to store my passwords but it isn't
>> secure.  What cli and/or web software can I use to store my password
>> (account) in encrypted format ? What do you use ? 
>> 
>I would not go with web-based as it is far too insecure.  I personally
>like MyPasswordSafe, but it is Qt-based.

I'm personally using KeySafe[1] (yes, shameless plug and yes I have a
Debian package).

Whether web-based is insecure or not depends very much on how the system
is designed.  Personally I consider storing a password encrypted by a
master password on a server is secure enough as long as the master
password never leaves my machine (which means encryption and decryption
must happen locally).  Implementing a pure JavaScript client would then
allow me to access passwords in a browser anywhere in the world.  At
least if I trust the browser enough :-)

/M

[1]: http://therning.org/magnus/computer/keysafe

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Re: [debian-user] Subject Confusion

2007-07-12 Thread Anson Gardner
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 15:45, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> Ted,
>
> Mathias has shown you a nice  way to intersperse comments with the
> original text. It is the generally preferred method here and on any
> other linux or OSS oriented list I've subscribed to.
>

SNIP

> fine. Sometimes, though, using To: or Cc: can casue problems if mail
> comes through with really broken headers.
>
> > > PS: BTW Andrew,  I am posting on the bottom but still feel
> > > uncomfortable about posting that way because this confuses many who do
> > > business on the Internet.
>
> Just out of curiousity, have you ever had anyone complain about
> bottom-posting?
>

While I've never had anyone complain, I have had people simply not see what I 
had replied to them because my reply was either interspersed with their 
message or was at the bottom of their message. Unfortunately, I have had this 
problem not only with people who don't know any better, but also with other 
technical people.

I've found it's easier to find out what mail client they're using and adjust 
things accordingly.

Regards,

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Re: Script polluted by DOS formatting

2007-07-12 Thread Bob McGowan

Francesco Pietra wrote:

I'm leaving you CC'd on this, something I don't usually do, as I want to 
be sure you get this.  Apologies if you are subscribed and get mail twice.



A script downloaded to a desktop i386/etch/gnome from Amber web site, edited on
the desktop with gnome text editor, then sent scp to a computing machine amd64,
turned out to be polluted by DOS formatting.

The computing program was prevented from reading the polluted lines.

I tried

dos2unix scriptfilename


This is the correct command for the desired conversion, but ... see below.



which failed to clean the script. Opening the script with vim did not reveal
the problem. It was only


VIM, if configured to do so (see 'set fileformat' and 'set fileformats' 
in VIM help), will do auto conversion from/to DOS and so will hide the 
file type being edited.  The only indication is when the file is first 
read in, in the status line:


  "filename" [dos] linesL, charsC

So you may have missed it, assuming it was printed.



od -c scriptfilename > od.dmp

that revealed non printing characters, octal 302 followed by octal 240 at each
script line.


Here's the issue:  in ASCII, the DOS format  in octal would be 
015 followed by 012, not the numbers you provide.


The dos2unix/unix2dos and vim programs are looking for the ASCII value 
and so would not touch the 302 240 pair you found.  So the file would be 
unchanged.




I was unfamiliar with such affairs and wonder about the origin of the
pollution. The desktop has wine installed (for a Windows-based database that
finds no efficient substitute in unix) and may be (don't remember) the database
had been launched before editing of the said script.

1) Is wine likely to have caused the pollution?


Perhaps, but more likely it was downloaded that way, I think.



2) Is the above dos2unix command correctly issued?


Yes.



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What information does 'file scriptfilename' report?  You may find you 
have some other character set encoding to have to convert from.


You may also find that a binary editor would let you search for and 
globally replace the offending character pairs with an ASCII newline 
(octal 012).


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[OT] Mathematics and the uselessness of numbers (was Re: Help buying Economic Printer)

2007-07-12 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/11/07 18:44, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 10:31:29PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/10/07 22:21, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:



I thought you established that it doesn't get hot in Canada.


Well, I'm almost in canada and it's 104F (40C) here today with 106F (41C) 
tomorrow
and saturday. But, as was already said, at least its a dry heat. 


So much for our 85F (29C) average...


That's why it's called an *average*.

Because people (even, apparently, smart people like you) seem to 
fixate on that "average" number and think that "because that's the 
average, that's what the temperature is supposed to be", weather 
sites should *not* post average, but *should* post the *range* of 
temperatures 1 STDDEV above and below the average.


I'm an American, remember?  I only care about what's happening in my 
neighborhood.



So, what is happening there? Mine's mostly overgrown as its to
freakin' hot to mow... and my wife made me lose the chickens who had
been keeping it cut down pretty well...

A



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Re: Some ALSA apps stopped working [REALLY SOLVED]

2007-07-12 Thread Chris Lale
Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 10:30:15 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Problem solved. alsaconf runs the obsolete command "update-modules" which
>> modifies /etc/modprobe.d/sound and /etc/modprobe.conf if present. According 
>> to
>> the update-modules man page the existence of /etc/modprobe.conf will cause
>> /etc/modprobe.d/ to be ignored by Debian packages which store their
>> configuration files there.
> 
> [...]
> 
>> I am not sure why /etc/modprobe.conf existed. Probably because my Etch 
>> (Stable)
>> system has been incrementally upgraded from Woody (Stable) and Etch 
>> (Testing).
>>
>> Worth reporting as a bug, do you think?
> 
> I would say so; the manpage of update-modules is pretty clear about it:
> 
> "Any program calling [update-modules] should be fixed."

I have reported this as a bug [1], but the initial response is not encouraging
("Hey you guys out there, why are you using alsaconf?").

> 
> (It is nice that this possible pitfall is now documented in the list
>  archives.)
> 

I have also summarised this thread on the NewbieDOC wiki [2].

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432678
[2]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Some_applications_.28OSS_applications.29_produce_no_sound_in_ALSA


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What Can I Play With an Radeon X1300 All in Wonder PCIe 256Megs GDDR3

2007-07-12 Thread Orestes leal

Hi, Folks,

Mi Question it's, With this card and the fglrx driver to the latest update, and 
512 megs
of ram Can I I play Doom3, or similars in ETCH?


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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 12:28:33PM +, KLEIN Stéphane wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On my box, I use plain text to store my passwords but it isn't secure. 
> What cli and/or web software can I use to store my password (account) in 
> encrypted format ? What do you use ? 

revelation

> If it's possible I would like collaborate system.

Not sure they exist... Why share passwords anyway? Most of the time, 
what you need is for multiple people to access the same unix/linux 
account - and this would be solved by people dropping their public ssh 
keys there...

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Re: [debian-user] Subject Confusion

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 10:46:49AM -0500, Anson Gardner wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 July 2007 15:45, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >
> > Just out of curiousity, have you ever had anyone complain about
> > bottom-posting?
> >
> 
> While I've never had anyone complain, I have had people simply not see what I 
> had replied to them because my reply was either interspersed with their 
> message or was at the bottom of their message. Unfortunately, I have had this 
> problem not only with people who don't know any better, but also with other 
> technical people.

hm. their loss I guess.

> 
> I've found it's easier to find out what mail client they're using and adjust 
> things accordingly.

wow. that's pretty nice of you actually. ;)

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Strange Message

2007-07-12 Thread ArcticFox
Anyone know what this means? I got it returned after I sent my last 
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Re: [OT] Mathematics and the uselessness of numbers (was Re: Help buying Economic Printer)

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:40:11AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 07/11/07 18:44, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 10:31:29PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> On 07/10/07 22:21, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
 I thought you established that it doesn't get hot in Canada.
>> Well, I'm almost in canada and it's 104F (40C) here today with 106F (41C) 
>> tomorrow
>> and saturday. But, as was already said, at least its a dry heat. So much 
>> for our 85F (29C) average...
>
> That's why it's called an *average*.
>
> Because people (even, apparently, smart people like you) seem to fixate on 
> that "average" number and think that "because that's the average, that's 
> what the temperature is supposed to be", weather sites should *not* post 
> average, but *should* post the *range* of temperatures 1 STDDEV above and 
> below the average.

please Ron. I'm fully aware of what an average is and was merely jumping on the 
"let's
discuss random weather stuff" band-wagon and having a little fun. 

sheesh.

I agree though that the range of temperatures would be really nice to
see. The high and low with 1 stddev above and below each would
actually be useful information. 

so it goes and cheers...

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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 06:15:31PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> 
> Why share passwords anyway? Most of the time, 
> what you need is for multiple people to access the same unix/linux 
> account - and this would be solved by people dropping their public ssh 
> keys there...
> 

genuine question here: why would anyone do that when they could use
proper groups and proper permissions to allow the right users access
to the right stuff? What happens if one of the several users with the
ssh keys dropped in the same account is somehow compromised? THat
means the whole account is compromised and *everyone else* who has
their key dropped in there is compromised: what are the implications
of that?  And then the admin has to figure who is
compromised and restructure the whole thing instead of just deleting
the one problem user. 

A


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Re: people.debian.org down?

2007-07-12 Thread Shams Fantar

The web site is come back. :-)

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Re: denyhosts + tcp wrappers?

2007-07-12 Thread Craig Hurley

On 11/07/2007 04:44, Bob Proulx wrote:

If you are finding 'denyhosts' difficult then you may want to install
'fail2ban' as one standalone method to stop this since it is extremely
simple.  It should work out of the box.



Denyhosts did work out of the box.

My understanding of how denyhosts works is that it is scheduled to parse 
auth.log file every X seconds, identifing failed login attempts, it then 
tallies those attempts, if the total of failed login attempts is above Y 
write the source IP to /etc/hosts.deny.  The (very minor) hole here is 
that say denyhosts runs every 30 seconds, script-happy-john has a window 
of 30 seconds to guess user name & password pairs.


The purpose of the "howto" in the blog was to change the operation of 
denyhosts so rather than denyhosts being scheduled to parse auth.log 
every X seconds, denyhosts would be initiated every by every ssh login 
attempt.  Now script-happy-john only gets his first 3 attempts for free.


I will give fail2ban a go, after I'm finished testing with denyhosts.


I've read this blog: 
http://tdot.blog-city.com/securing_ssh_with_denyhosts.htm but there are 
differences in the files/paths used on debian and what the blog-author 
uses.  I've plugged along but I'm not sure if I have denyhosts 
configured right.


I don't see any file path problems.  Did you install the Debian
version?  I would assume that the Debian package maintainer took care
of getting all of the paths correct.


There are minor differences in the blog, maybe they were typos by the 
author?  IIRC there are also differences in the files paths referenced 
in the man pages and the files available in the debian install, I will 
confirm that when I'm on this particular machine again.


I downloaded denyhosts using apt; I've never changed the default apt 
sources since installing debian a couple of weeks ago.



The thing is, if I attempt to login via SSH using a bad 
username/password 3 times, there's a delay of approx 5-10 seconds before 
my IP address shows up in /etc/hosts.blocked.


Then it appears to be working.


It's this delay of 5-10 seconds that makes it possible for me to attempt 
more logins.




On averate half of that time would be waited before detection.
The alternative to this delay would be FAM and I am not sure it is
worth adding that as a dependency.


Never heard of "FAM" (linux beginner); I'll go check it out.


Also, if I change /etc/hosts.deny with the intention of blocking access 
to ALL services to IPs listed in /etc/hosts.blocked, denyhosts stops 
working as above.  Here's what I changed /etc/hosts.deny to:


/etc/hosts.deny
ALL:/etc/hosts.blocked
sshd:ALL:spawn /usr/sbin/denyhosts --purge -c /etc/denyhosts.conf:allow


I would avoid mixing simple and extended syntax in the same file.  I
would simply use the extended syntax and put everything in the
/etc/hosts.allow file.  Not sure this is the problem but I think it
would be a better practice anyway.  Also, dynamically updated files
are better placed in /var/run rather than in /etc.  Here is a
suggested improvement.  UNTESTED!

  ALL:/var/run/denyhosts/hosts.blocked:DENY
  sshd:ALL:spawn /usr/sbin/denyhosts --purge -c /etc/denyhosts.conf:ALLOW


I'll take this onboard and try again using these settings.


Thank you Bob.


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Re: Eeek?! smbmount is deprecated?!

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 11:35:51PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 09:04:29PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
>>
>>
>> [a bunch of resolved cifs/smbfs stuff... ]
>>
>>   
>>> And finally, the last issue remains: if mount normally must be run by 
>>> root, how can I give non-root users access to mount shares without 
>>> knowing before-hand what shares to pre-populate /etc/fstab with?
>>>
>>> It would be much easier just to continue using smbmount, but like I say, 
>>> I'm trying to be a good, forward-going sort of guy rather than living in 
>>> the fading past
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> I;m jumping in here. What makes you think smbmount is going away? its
>> still listed as a file in the sid versions of samba stuff.
> The man page, as in ...

d'oh. (rtfm rtfm rtfm...)

[...]
>
>> maybe the solution to your problem is to go right around it and use
>> automount (can you use that with samba? I think so) and just set up
>> automounts for everything that could be mounted.
>>   
> I'm not really familiar with automount, but doesn't it require you to 
> pre-define the available mounts (as your question indicates)? That would 
> prevent Joe User 1 on his Windows box from sharing out a folder on Saturday 
> evening so Jane User 2 on the Linux box could get to the pictures from the 
> birthday party that day, unless the admin of the Linux box had already 
> foreseen that Joe User 1 would be doing that, in which case I suspect the 
> admin could be doing a lot better things with his prophetic gift than 
> adminning a Linux box.

yeah, okay. I like wackojacko's idea - LinNeighborhood.

automount won't do it for you.

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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 10:32:28AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> 
> genuine question here: why would anyone do that when they could use
> proper groups and proper permissions to allow the right users access
> to the right stuff? What happens if one of the several users with the
> ssh keys dropped in the same account is somehow compromised? THat
> means the whole account is compromised and *everyone else* who has
> their key dropped in there is compromised: what are the implications
> of that?  And then the admin has to figure who is
> compromised and restructure the whole thing instead of just deleting
> the one problem user. 
> 
> A

That is not correct.  Only the public part of the key is compromised,
which gets you precisely nothing.  Now, if the *private* part of the key
were compromised (along with its passphrase), then you have a legitimate
concern.

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-Roberto

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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 04:29:32PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote:
> 
> I'm personally using KeySafe[1] (yes, shameless plug and yes I have a
> Debian package).
> 
Do you need a sponsor to get the package into Debian?

Regards,

-Roberto


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Re: Strange Message

2007-07-12 Thread Shams Fantar

ArcticFox wrote:
Anyone know what this means? I got it returned after I sent my last 
email to the list.


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I have too this message, it's certainly a spam... Look the sender of 
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Re: denyhosts + tcp wrappers?

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 06:37:13PM +0100, Craig Hurley wrote:
> On 11/07/2007 04:44, Bob Proulx wrote:
>> If you are finding 'denyhosts' difficult then you may want to install
>> 'fail2ban' as one standalone method to stop this since it is extremely
>> simple.  It should work out of the box.
>
> Denyhosts did work out of the box.
>
> My understanding of how denyhosts works is that it is scheduled to parse 
> auth.log file every X seconds, identifing failed login attempts, it then 
> tallies those attempts, if the total of failed login attempts is above Y 
> write the source IP to /etc/hosts.deny.  The (very minor) hole here is that 
> say denyhosts runs every 30 seconds, script-happy-john has a window of 30 
> seconds to guess user name & password pairs.

to solution to this problem is to read man sshd_config and look at
LoginGraceTime, MaxAuthTries, and MaxStartups. By tweaking these
values (though I think they're fairly good in stock configuration) you
can control all sorts of behaviors for ssh logins. 

MaxAuthTries is set to 6 and starts logging at half that value. At six
failures the connection is dropped. MaxStartups is 10, which means
that at most 10 unauthenticated connections at a time. With all ten
going, that's 60 attempts per shot basically. The point is even
looking at someone pounding it for 30 seconds before denyhosts picks
it up, its not really a whole lot of attempts. Throw in some firewall
rules to control frequency of permitted connections, and you can
majorly throttle someones ability to dictionary attack you. If you have good
passwords, you should be okay. 

There are other features you can throw in like "random early drop"
using the MaxStartups value. That will randomly kick people
(depending on how you set it) once you're above some threshold. 


finally, if possible, just turn off password authentication altogether
and pubkey authentication. 

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Re: Strange Message

2007-07-12 Thread Bob McGowan

ArcticFox wrote:
Anyone know what this means? I got it returned after I sent my last 
email to the list.


On Jul 11, 2007, at 9:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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I saw this, also, and just this morning (Pacific, USA).

It looks like (based on my limited Spanish) like a subscriber email 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has some sort of local email account restrictions 
which prevent delivery.


What to do with it?  Ignore, hoping it gets fixed soon?  Remove from 
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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 01:47:08PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 10:32:28AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > 
> > genuine question here: why would anyone do that when they could use
> > proper groups and proper permissions to allow the right users access
> > to the right stuff? What happens if one of the several users with the
> > ssh keys dropped in the same account is somehow compromised? THat
> > means the whole account is compromised and *everyone else* who has
> > their key dropped in there is compromised: what are the implications
> > of that?  And then the admin has to figure who is
> > compromised and restructure the whole thing instead of just deleting
> > the one problem user. 
> > 
> > A
> 
> That is not correct.  Only the public part of the key is compromised,
> which gets you precisely nothing.  Now, if the *private* part of the key
> were compromised (along with its passphrase), then you have a legitimate
> concern.

okay, got it. But I still fail to see the advantages of allowing
multiple people access to the same account like this. Obviously its
vastly easier to set up, but it seems like its asking for
trouble. Logs will say user foo, logged in at 12:34 and did this, but
which of any number of people was behind that user foo login?

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About [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-07-12 Thread Clemente Reyes Ricardo

Hi everybody:

I apologize, it was a wrong anti-spam filter in my email server.
Don't worry about it the problem was fixed.

Greetings,
   Clemente.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:38:48 -0500, Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



ArcticFox wrote:

Anyone know what this means? I got it returned after I sent my last
email to the list.

On Jul 11, 2007, at 9:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Delivery of the attached message:

From   : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date   : Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:31:15 -0500
Subject: (Archive Copy) Re: TinyMUSH/MySQL Crash Issue

would violate local account restrictions.

This message was not delivered.
: El mensaje contiene [1] archivos adjuntos






I saw this, also, and just this morning (Pacific, USA).

It looks like (based on my limited Spanish) like a subscriber email
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has some sort of local email account restrictions
which prevent delivery.

What to do with it?  Ignore, hoping it gets fixed soon?  Remove from
list?  Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] about it?

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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 12 Jul 2007, KLEIN Stéphane wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> On my box, I use plain text to store my passwords but it isn't secure. 
> 
> What cli and/or web software can I use to store my password (account) in 
> 
> encrypted format ? What do you use ? 
> 
> 
> 
> If it's possible I would like collaborate system.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Stephane
> 

I use ccencrypt.

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Re: About [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 02:17:14PM -0500, Clemente Reyes Ricardo wrote:
> Hi everybody:
>
> I apologize, it was a wrong anti-spam filter in my email server.
> Don't worry about it the problem was fixed.
>

Clemente, thanks for your prompt attention. I was just about to send
turei to the blackhole.

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Re: Drivers para adaptadores de red de portatil ASUS F5 Entertainment system F5R

2007-07-12 Thread Florian Kulzer
[ Para obtener ayuda en español, envía tu pregunta a
  debian-user-spanish AT lists DOT debian DOT org por favor. ]

On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 19:34:14 +0200, Manuel F wrote:

[ snip: Debian (Etch?) installation on Asus F5 Entertaiment System X50R
  laptop was successful, but the network cards are not working. ]

> Si supiesen cómo conseguirlos les agradecería muchísimo que me ayudasen, 
> sobre todo los de los adaptadores de red normal e inalámbrico. Los modelos 
> son: ATTANSIC L2 FAST ETHERNET 10/100 Base-T Controller.

This is a new card. I think there is no Linux driver available right
now. Only the model "L1" seems to be supported so far:

http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=attansic

You could try ndiswrapper, which is a trick to use Windows drivers for
network cards under Linux:

http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/

They do not list any Attansic cards as supported yet, so this might not
work.

> La WIFI es 
> Broadcom 802.11g.

We need to know the exact model of the card. Please post the output of

lspci | egrep -i 'net|broadcom'

> Mi e-mail es mafernann AT hotmail DOT com

I assume this means that you want to receive a copy of the list mail to
this address. If you want to continue this discussion, please send your
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Psst! It's a secret! (was: Strange Message)

2007-07-12 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 19:50:03 +0200, Shams Fantar wrote:
> ArcticFox wrote:
>> Anyone know what this means? I got it returned after I sent my last email 
>> to the list.
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2007, at 9:32 PM, MDaemon AT turei.co.cu wrote:
>>
>>> Delivery of the attached message:
>>>
>>> From   : genkokitsu AT insightbb.com
>>> To : turei AT turei.co.cu
>>> Date   : Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:31:15 -0500
>>> Subject: (Archive Copy) Re: TinyMUSH/MySQL Crash Issue
>>>
>>> would violate local account restrictions.
>>>
>>> This message was not delivered.
>>> : El mensaje contiene [1] archivos adjuntos
>>> 
>
> I have too this message, it's certainly a spam... Look the sender of 
> message.

It is not spam, it is actually a coded message. If you have the secret
decoder ring then you can find out what it says:

"The administrators of the turei.co.cu mailserver do not understand how
mailing lists work. Be sure to drink your Ovaltine."

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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:06:55AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> 
> okay, got it. But I still fail to see the advantages of allowing
> multiple people access to the same account like this. Obviously its
> vastly easier to set up, but it seems like its asking for
> trouble. Logs will say user foo, logged in at 12:34 and did this, but
> which of any number of people was behind that user foo login?
> 
That is a good point.  I was not disputing that.  I was simply
correcting your misstatement about the key compromise.  Incidentally
what you say is the same problem that is faced when a group of admins
share a root password.  Something like sudo is useful there.  In any
event, people should have their own accounts.  Shared accounts are very
out of style now.

Regards,

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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 03:30:53PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:06:55AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > 
> > okay, got it. But I still fail to see the advantages of allowing
> > multiple people access to the same account like this. Obviously its
> > vastly easier to set up, but it seems like its asking for
> > trouble. Logs will say user foo, logged in at 12:34 and did this, but
> > which of any number of people was behind that user foo login?
> > 
> That is a good point.  I was not disputing that.  I was simply
> correcting your misstatement about the key compromise.

right. thanks.

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Re: Psst! It's a secret! (was: Strange Message)

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 08:05:35PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 19:50:03 +0200, Shams Fantar wrote:
> > ArcticFox wrote:
> >> Anyone know what this means? I got it returned after I sent my last email 
> >> to the list.
> >>
> >> On Jul 11, 2007, at 9:32 PM, MDaemon AT turei.co.cu wrote:
> >>
> >>> Delivery of the attached message:
> >>>
> >>> From   : genkokitsu AT insightbb.com
> >>> To : turei AT turei.co.cu
> >>> Date   : Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:31:15 -0500
> >>> Subject: (Archive Copy) Re: TinyMUSH/MySQL Crash Issue
> >>>
> >>> would violate local account restrictions.
> >>>
> >>> This message was not delivered.
> >>> : El mensaje contiene [1] archivos adjuntos
> >>> 
> >
> > I have too this message, it's certainly a spam... Look the sender of 
> > message.
> 
> It is not spam, it is actually a coded message. If you have the secret
> decoder ring then you can find out what it says:
> 
> "The administrators of the turei.co.cu mailserver do not understand how
> mailing lists work. Be sure to drink your Ovaltine."

better check your keys Florian. Mine spits out:

When your

...


MTA

...

fails to 

...

properly

...

behave

...

Burma-shave!

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fluxbox weirdness

2007-07-12 Thread Tyler Smith
Hi,

I just rebooted my laptop for the first time in ages (usually I just
hibernate to RAM). Fluxbox is behaving very strangely. I have the Alt
keys bound to a number of handy things, such as switching windows and
switching desktops. None of the alt combinations appear to work,
although Mod4 does, as does None Pause, None Scr_lock and None Print.
Also, my xterm windows are now decorated with a title bar which sticks
out above the window frame. 

Are these new fluxbox features? If so, how do I turn them off? If not,
what's going on?

Thanks,

Tyler

Lenny, Thinkpad R60


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Re: denyhosts + tcp wrappers?

2007-07-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> Craig Hurley wrote:
> > My understanding of how denyhosts works is that it is scheduled to parse 
> > auth.log file every X seconds, identifing failed login attempts, it then 
> > tallies those attempts, if the total of failed login attempts is above Y 

> > The (very minor) hole here is that 
> > say denyhosts runs every 30 seconds, script-happy-john has a window of 30 
> > seconds to guess user name & password pairs.

But that is not a hole.  Even without any type of rate limiting if
your passwords are reasonable then it is not possible to guess the
password.  So it really does not matter if the script kiddies are
shaking the door all of the time.  They are not going to get in.
These types of rate limiters are really only there for the aesthetics
of it and not for the security of it.  Seeing those extra entries in
the log file is annoying.  Hearing the disk drive rattle more often is
annoying.  Rate limiting controls those non-security issues.

> to solution to this problem is to read man sshd_config and look at
> LoginGraceTime, MaxAuthTries, and MaxStartups. By tweaking these
> values (though I think they're fairly good in stock configuration) you
> can control all sorts of behaviors for ssh logins. 

Good suggestions.

> The point is even looking at someone pounding it for 30 seconds
> before denyhosts picks it up, its not really a whole lot of
> attempts. Throw in some firewall rules to control frequency of
> permitted connections, and you can majorly throttle someones ability
> to dictionary attack you. If you have good passwords, you should be
> okay.

Agreed.

> finally, if possible, just turn off password authentication altogether
> and pubkey authentication. 

The best suggestion yet.  Using ssh rsa keys prevents even the
possibility of a dictionary attack from happening.

Bob


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Re: Some ALSA apps stopped working [REALLY SOLVED]

2007-07-12 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 17:49:11 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 10:30:15 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> >> Problem solved. alsaconf runs the obsolete command "update-modules" which
> >> modifies /etc/modprobe.d/sound and /etc/modprobe.conf if present. 
> >> According to
> >> the update-modules man page the existence of /etc/modprobe.conf will cause
> >> /etc/modprobe.d/ to be ignored by Debian packages which store their
> >> configuration files there.

[...]

> I have reported this as a bug [1], but the initial response is not encouraging
> ("Hey you guys out there, why are you using alsaconf?").

I noticed your "wontfix" today when I checked out the BTS because I
wanted to submit a patch for the Sid version of alsaconf. (Alsaconf
1.0.14-1 fails to load any sound module after it configures everything,
therefore it effectively breaks sound.) I found that someone had
reported the bug (#430624) and it had been closed already, citing the
same "alsaconf is not needed anymore" reason.

It seems that udev is now supposed to handle everything. You can indeed
run

udevtrigger --verbose --subsystem-match=sound

and all necessary modules are loaded again (at least in my case). I
think you can still use alsaconf to choose a particular sound card (if
you have more than one), but you now have to trigger the loading of the
modules yourself afterwards (with alsa-utils 1.0.14-1).

[...]

> I have also summarised this thread on the NewbieDOC wiki [2].
> 
> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432678
> [2] 
> http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Some_applications_.28OSS_applications.29_produce_no_sound_in_ALSA

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SATA support

2007-07-12 Thread Dustin

I'm building my first PC, it will run Debian of course.

I'm buying the parts off of newegg.com and noticed that many of the 
newer DVD burners have a SATA interface.  I'm looking at getting both 
the HDDs and the DVD burner with a SATA interface, but wasn't sure if it 
could make the process more complicated from a Debian standpoint, and 
wanted to see how safe of a bet it would be to use one.


I understand that the interface is faster and cleaner from a physical 
standpoint, but more complicated and less tried and true from a software 
standpoint.


I would prefer to have the option to playback DVD movies on this 
machine, in the past I've had trouble getting smooth playback on a PC 
versus a dedicated stand alone DVD player.  This may only be an issue 
with older machines, but I might be wrong in that assumption.


Any advice on this issue, or any issue in building a newer Debian PC 
would be excellent.


Thanks in advance for the help.

Dustin


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Re: What Can I Play With an Radeon X1300 All in Wonder PCIe 256Megs GDDR3

2007-07-12 Thread Alan Ianson
On Thu July 12 2007 10:10, Orestes leal wrote:
> Hi, Folks,
>
> Mi Question it's, With this card and the fglrx driver to the latest update,
> and 512 megs of ram Can I I play Doom3, or similars in ETCH?

I assume yes. My desktop has an nvidia card I can play doom and the like. I 
have an ati card in my laptop but I have never played games with it, but with 
the ati driver installed it does give a nice clear image.


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Re: SATA support

2007-07-12 Thread Dallas Clement
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 16:32 -0500, Dustin wrote:
> I'm building my first PC, it will run Debian of course.
> 
> I'm buying the parts off of newegg.com and noticed that many of the 
> newer DVD burners have a SATA interface.  I'm looking at getting both 
> the HDDs and the DVD burner with a SATA interface, but wasn't sure if it 
> could make the process more complicated from a Debian standpoint, and 
> wanted to see how safe of a bet it would be to use one.
> 
> I understand that the interface is faster and cleaner from a physical 
> standpoint, but more complicated and less tried and true from a software 
> standpoint.
> 
> I would prefer to have the option to playback DVD movies on this 
> machine, in the past I've had trouble getting smooth playback on a PC 
> versus a dedicated stand alone DVD player.  This may only be an issue 
> with older machines, but I might be wrong in that assumption.
> 
> Any advice on this issue, or any issue in building a newer Debian PC 
> would be excellent.
> 
> Thanks in advance for the help.
> 
> Dustin

If you stick with the latest Debian Etch stable release, you'll be fine.
All the SATA drivers imaginable are included in the 2.6 kernel.  That is
not the case with 2.4.  I learned from first hand experience.

SATA is definitely the way to go.  Very good performance/price ratio.

Good luck,
Dallas


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Re: Difficulty with dpkg dependencies

2007-07-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Dallas Clement wrote:
> The output of dpkg -l on my target system is:
> ii  libc6-i3862.3.6
> Hence, I can see that the package 'libc6-i386' is indeed installed.

It does look like it.

> The subsequent attempt to install busybox,  e2fsprogs or any other
> package that depends on libc6-i386 fails however.
> 
> dpkg: package e2fsprogs depends on libc6-i386, which is not installed or
 flagged to be installed

That is very strange and I don't see an obvious problem or solution.

It is strange that the official Debian package for busybox depends on
libc6 while your custom version depends upon libc6-386.  That is a
difference that should be tracked down.  Your custom version should
build exactly the same way that the Debian version builds.  Especially
since raju reported that it worked fine for him and I am sure it would
for me as well.

You may have something strange going on with your particular system.
You might want to try building in a clean chroot so as to isolate
problems.  The 'pbuilder' package can help you here.

  apt-cache show pbuilder

> Btw, the target system on which I am installing these packages is a
> custom built Linux kernel 2.6.21.1.

Thanks for mentioning it but the choice of kernel will not affect the
problem that you are currently seeing.

> I'm using the busybox 'dpkg' command to install the packages on this
> system.

I did not realize that busybox provided a dpkg replacement.  Hopefully
it uses dpkg-dev and so the behavior will be the same regardless of
the front-end differences.

> I'm not having any problems building the packages for busybox,
> e2fsprogs, or whatever.  Just having problems installing them due to
> these dependency issues with libc6-i386 which should already be
> installed as seen above.

Could you say a few words about why the pre-packaged version of
busybox is not sufficient?  It would be motivating in the process of
trying to help why your custom version does not install.

Bob


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Re: Difficulty with dpkg dependencies

2007-07-12 Thread Dallas Clement
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 16:08 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Dallas Clement wrote:
> > The output of dpkg -l on my target system is:
> > ii  libc6-i3862.3.6
> > Hence, I can see that the package 'libc6-i386' is indeed installed.
> 
> It does look like it.
> 
> > The subsequent attempt to install busybox,  e2fsprogs or any other
> > package that depends on libc6-i386 fails however.
> > 
> > dpkg: package e2fsprogs depends on libc6-i386, which is not installed or
>  flagged to be installed
> 
> That is very strange and I don't see an obvious problem or solution.
> 
> It is strange that the official Debian package for busybox depends on
> libc6 while your custom version depends upon libc6-386.  That is a
> difference that should be tracked down.  Your custom version should
> build exactly the same way that the Debian version builds.  Especially
> since raju reported that it worked fine for him and I am sure it would
> for me as well.
> 
> You may have something strange going on with your particular system.
> You might want to try building in a clean chroot so as to isolate
> problems.  The 'pbuilder' package can help you here.
> 
>   apt-cache show pbuilder
> 
> > Btw, the target system on which I am installing these packages is a
> > custom built Linux kernel 2.6.21.1.
> 
> Thanks for mentioning it but the choice of kernel will not affect the
> problem that you are currently seeing.
> 
> > I'm using the busybox 'dpkg' command to install the packages on this
> > system.
> 
> I did not realize that busybox provided a dpkg replacement.  Hopefully
> it uses dpkg-dev and so the behavior will be the same regardless of
> the front-end differences.
> 
> > I'm not having any problems building the packages for busybox,
> > e2fsprogs, or whatever.  Just having problems installing them due to
> > these dependency issues with libc6-i386 which should already be
> > installed as seen above.
> 
> Could you say a few words about why the pre-packaged version of
> busybox is not sufficient?  It would be motivating in the process of
> trying to help why your custom version does not install.
> 
> Bob
> 

Hello Bob, Thank you for the reply.

I'm using a cross-compiler to build busybox, e2fsprogs, and some other
applications for an embedded network appliance that does not have much
disk space.  Hence, wanting to configure and build myself so as to be
able to take out things that are not needed.

I think it is probably the cross-compiler that is adding the -i386 onto
libc6.  Regardless, I was under the impression that dpkg would do its
package dependency check by looking for the package name that is
depended on in the file /var/lib/dpkg/status.  As you can see from the
output I provided, the busybox package depends line clearly matches with
what is in this file.  Perhaps it is more complicated than this?

Busybox definitely provides a 'dpkg' command.  I would be surprised if
what I am experiencing is a bug in the implementation.  What I am doing
seems so basic!  I'm now looking at the code for the busybox dpkg
implementation and putting in some debug msgs to see why it is behaving
this way.

Cheers,
Dallas


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USB bus fails to see devices

2007-07-12 Thread Haines Brown
I've been able to use all my USB devices (camera, scanner, printer,
bub, etc.), but at one point that I can't associate with any event, two
devices (camera and scanner) are no longer seen by the USB bus.

$ uname -a
Linux teufel 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03:12 UTC 2007 i686 
GNU/Linux

$ apt-show-versions udev
udev/etch uptodate 0.105-4

The printer and scanner are connected to the root hub; the printer is
seen, but not the scanner. A camera, usb-key and usb external hard
disk are connected to an external hub; the latter are seen, but not
the camera. I disconnected irrelevant devices to eliminate any usb bus
power issues. and so it seems the bus and cables are OK.

However, the bus does not see my Canon camera and Epson scanner, while
it does see a Western Digital USB external HD, a Lexar USB-key, a
Genesys USB hub, and a Lexmark printer:

$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 011: ID 1058:0701 Western Digital Technologies, Inc. 
Bus 002 Device 009: ID 05dc:a400 Lexar Media, Inc. 
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:0605 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 
Hub [ednet]
Bus 002 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 043d:0052 Lexmark International, Inc. 
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :

Likewise, in /var/log/syslog, when the printer or camera is replugged,
there is no report of it there at all.

The module list looks OK to me.

$ lsmod | grep 'usb\|hci'
usb_storage71840  0 
usblp  12768  0 
scsi_mod  124168  6 usb_storage,sbp2,sd_mod,libata,
aic79xx,scsi_transport_spi
ehci_hcd   28136  0 
ohci1394   30800  0 
ieee1394   86904  3 sbp2,eth1394,ohci1394
ohci_hcd   18276  0 
ide_core  110504  4 usb_storage,ide_cd,amd74xx,generic
usbcore   112644  5 usb_storage,usblp,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd

When I was runing Woody, stock kernel 2.4, I had something like:

$ more /proc/bus/usb/drivers
usbdevfs
hub
0- 15:  usblp

but with Etch, stock kernel 2.6 I have no such directory. Not sure
why. 

I'm having trouble understanding 

$ dmesg | grep -i usb

for it looks like my printer and USB mass storage devices aer loaded
multiple times.

Should I have seen a /proc/bus/usb/drivers directory with some drivers
in it? Given the above, where is it likely the problem lies?
 

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Re: Why do I get these? [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Your message can not be delivered]

2007-07-12 Thread ArcticFox
It seems to have something to do with someone's spam filters, I already 
asked about it and supposedly it has been fixed.


On Jul 12, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:


I've received a messge like this a few times and I don't know why.

The last was for a different thread.  In both cases, I saw that my
message was accepted by the list, since I got a copy back.  It seems
that the list sends it off to the OP, fails, and sends me this.

Is anyone else getting this?

Doug.



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would violate local account restrictions.

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2007-07-12 Thread Alex Samad
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 10:30:29AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
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> 
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> that the list sends it off to the OP, fails, and sends me this.
> 
> Is anyone else getting this?
> 
> Doug.
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2007-07-12 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
I've received a messge like this a few times and I don't know why.

The last was for a different thread.  In both cases, I saw that my
message was accepted by the list, since I got a copy back.  It seems
that the list sends it off to the OP, fails, and sends me this.

Is anyone else getting this?

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Re: Tools to store account (password..) in encrypted format ?

2007-07-12 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 06:15:31PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 12:28:33PM +, KLEIN St?phane wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On my box, I use plain text to store my passwords but it isn't secure. 
> > What cli and/or web software can I use to store my password (account) in 
> > encrypted format ? What do you use ? 
> 
> revelation
> 
> > If it's possible I would like collaborate system.
> 
> Not sure they exist... Why share passwords anyway? Most of the time, 
> what you need is for multiple people to access the same unix/linux 
> account - and this would be solved by people dropping their public ssh 
> keys there...
> 

It depends on what is meant by collaborative.  Does that mean one group
of people who can access a file, in which case create a group for them
and chown the file to that group and give the group rw permissions.
However, once you get multiple users with multiple pieces of information
that some uses can access and others can't, it starts sounding like a
job for a database of some sort.  I wonder if the web-fronted to
postgresql will do https?

Doug.


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Re: SATA support

2007-07-12 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 04:32:04PM -0500, Dustin wrote:
 
> I would prefer to have the option to playback DVD movies on this 
> machine, in the past I've had trouble getting smooth playback on a PC 
> versus a dedicated stand alone DVD player.  This may only be an issue 
> with older machines, but I might be wrong in that assumption.
> 
> Any advice on this issue, or any issue in building a newer Debian PC 
> would be excellent.
> 

I built a new Athlon64 box about 8 months ago.  Sarge wouldn't work so I
went with Etch sometime between beta3 and RC1 and have stuck with it now
that it's stable.

I already had an LG read/burn anything with a PATA interface so I use
that.  My MB has one PATA so I have the burner as hda and my ZIP as hdb.

As for smooth playback, I went with a nVidia EN7300GT silent.  My
monitor is a 21" CRT drafting Intergraph.  I use VLC (remember to put
the debian-multimedia.org repository in your sources.list).

With the standard nv X driver, I get playback that is a bit jerky and
the smoothing/resizing isn't as good.

With the nvidia driver (with the stock debian contrib and non-free
packages) I get great performance.  The screen is at 1600x1200 32-bpp.
I can run vlc full screen (so it blows up the image to fit),
deinterlacing-blending, no jerking, smooth motion and cristal clarity.
All at 93% idle and minimal memory used.

The trick here is that the video card is able to do the jpeg to screen
translation in hardware with the nvidia driver whereas the nv driver has
to attempt it in software.

As for whether to use a PATA or SATA burner, it depends on what you have
and what interfaces the MB has, and also where your hard drives are
connected.  Don't expect smooth playback if you have the DVD and your
hard drive on the same interface or using the same bus.

Enjoy your assembly job.

Doug.


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ALSA TV tuner problems persist -- no sound :(

2007-07-12 Thread Michael Bonert
Hi,

I'm still struggling with my tv tuner card.

I described the problem here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00340.html
(ALSA problem - TV tuner no sound)

The short of the long of it: sound works-- but
not for the TV tuner.


Chris Lane had a few good suggestions:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00345.html

My "/dev/dsp" does exist:
# ls -lat /dev/dsp
crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-07-12 18:25 /dev/dsp

Also, I tried doing what a reference in Chris' message said (see:
http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20070705.081707.c4fa712b.en.html ):
# modprobe snd_pcm_oss
# modprobe snd_mixer_oss
# modprobe snd_sec_oss
FATAL: Module snd_sec_oss not found.

(I think "snd_sec_oss" should actually be "snd_seq_oss".)


# modprobe bt878

(Then, I tried launching 'xawtv'. Sound still didn't work.)

I tried unloading and reloading the bttv and bt878 modules.
Nope.

I played with permissions on "/dev/dsp"
# chmod o=rw /dev/dsp

The above didn't make a difference.


I tried:
$ aoss xawtv
xawtv launched... no sound.


I tried running xawtv as root...
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html
$ XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority
$ export XAUTHORITY
$ su root
# xawtv
xawtv launched... no sound.

As per 
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-desktop-x-windows/1265-xawtv-tv-my-linux-pc-picture-but-no-sound.html
I installed "kdetv"

# apt-get install kdetv
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kdetv


RUNNING kdetv from the command line gave me more info:

$ kdetv
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL
Creating vbi proxy client, rev.
$Id: proxy-client.c,v 1.12 2006/05/31 03:54:28 mschimek Exp $
proxy_msg: connect: error 2, No such file or directory
kdetv: WARNING: VBIDecoder: vbi_capture_proxy_new error: Connection via socket 
failed, server not running.
Try to open V4L2 0.20 VBI device, libzvbi interface rev.
  $Id: io-v4l2.c,v 1.33 2006/05/22 09:00:47 mschimek Exp $
Opened /dev/vbi0
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: Try to open V4L2 2.6 VBI device, libzvbi interface 
rev.
  $Id: io-v4l2k.c,v 1.42 2006/09/24 03:10:04 mschimek Exp $.
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: Opened /dev/vbi0.
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: /dev/vbi0 (BT878 video (ATI TV-Wonder)) is a v4l2 
vbi device,
driver bttv, version 0x0910.
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: Using streaming interface.
libzvbi:v4l2_get_videostd: Current scanning system is 525.
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: Querying current vbi parameters...
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: ...success.
libzvbi:print_vfmt: VBI capture parameters supported: format 59455247 [GREY], 
28636363 Hz, 2048 bpl, offs 244, F1 10...25, F2 273...288, flags .
libzvbi:print_vfmt: VBI capture parameters granted: format 59455247 [GREY], 
28636363 Hz, 2048 bpl, offs 244, F1 10...25, F2 273...288, flags .
libzvbi:vbi3_raw_decoder_add_services: No services to add.
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: Nyquist check passed.
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: Request decoding of services 0x6c7f, strict 
level -1.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x0001 (Teletext System B 
625 Level 1.5) requires videostd_set 0x1, have 0x0.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x0003 (Teletext System 
B, 625) requires videostd_set 0x1, have 0x0.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x0001 (Teletext System B 
625 Level 1.5) requires videostd_set 0x1, have 0x0.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x0003 (Teletext System 
B, 625) requires videostd_set 0x1, have 0x0.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x0004 (Video Program 
System) requires videostd_set 0x1, have 0x0.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x0400 (Wide Screen 
Signalling 625) requires videostd_set 0x1, have 0x0.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x0008 (Closed Caption 
625, field 1) requires videostd_set 0x1, have 0x0.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x0010 (Closed Caption 
625, field 2) requires videostd_set 0x1, have 0x0.
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: Will capture services 0x0060, added 0x60 
commit=1.
libzvbi:v4l2_stream_alloc: Requesting 16 streaming i/o buffers.
libzvbi:v4l2_stream_alloc: Mapping 16 streaming i/o buffers.
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: Successfully opened /dev/vbi0 (BT878 video (ATI 
TV-Wonder)).
kdetv: WARNING: MainWindow::setupInfraRed(): Lirc not available
kdetv: WARNING: VolumeController::doSetVolume: AudioManager failed, trying 
SourceManager
kdetv: WARNING: VolumeController::doSetVolume: AudioManager failed, trying 
SourceManager
libzvbi:v4l2_stream: Failed to dequeue buffer, errno 5.
kdetv: WARNING: VbiDecoder: VBI capture error: Input/output error
libzvbi:v4l2_stream_stop: Suspending stream.
Creating vbi proxy client, rev.
$Id: proxy-client.c,v 1.12 2006/05/31 03:54:28 mschimek Exp $
proxy_msg: connect: error 2, No such file or directory
kdetv: WARNING: VBIDecoder: vbi_cap

ML-320 compatible dot-matrix printer

2007-07-12 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
Hello,

I have an Origional IBM Personal Computer Graphics Printer.  I know from
previous installations that the only way I found to get it to print
postscript was with the gs-esp ML-320 driver.

However, I've always used lprng since its seems like overkill to bring
in all of cups.  On my last box, where I got it to work, I ended up with
foomatic-printfilters (which brings in a lot of the cups stuff) and used
the foomatic GUI to set it up with lprng.

Does anyone using lprng know of an easier/simpler way to get things
working?

My hesitation on cups is twofold:  the large amount of downloading over
slow dialup; and I'm unclear on the politics of the openprinting.org
movement.  The latter seems to be driven by one company.

What's the scoop on printing, why the move to cups, and do I have any
choice if I want to get this working?

Thanks,

Doug.


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start-stop-daemon: how to pass environment variables to the daemon

2007-07-12 Thread Yuwen Dai

Dear all,

A daemon invoked by start-stop-daemon needs some extra enviroment
variables.  How to pass them to the daemon?  Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Yuwen


Re: SATA support

2007-07-12 Thread Kelly Clowers

On 7/12/07, Dustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm building my first PC, it will run Debian of course.

I'm buying the parts off of newegg.com and noticed that many of the
newer DVD burners have a SATA interface.  I'm looking at getting both
the HDDs and the DVD burner with a SATA interface, but wasn't sure if it
could make the process more complicated from a Debian standpoint, and
wanted to see how safe of a bet it would be to use one.

I understand that the interface is faster and cleaner from a physical
standpoint, but more complicated and less tried and true from a software
standpoint.

I would prefer to have the option to playback DVD movies on this
machine, in the past I've had trouble getting smooth playback on a PC
versus a dedicated stand alone DVD player.  This may only be an issue
with older machines, but I might be wrong in that assumption.

Any advice on this issue, or any issue in building a newer Debian PC
would be excellent.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Dustin


I actually have nothing useful to add to the main discussion, but I
would like to thank you for bringing to my attention the widespread
availability of SATA burners. The last time I looked, there was only
one or two SATA models available anywhere. Thanks again.


Cheers,
Kelly


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Re: fluxbox weirdness

2007-07-12 Thread Kelly Clowers

On 12 Jul 2007 19:44:44 GMT, Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I just rebooted my laptop for the first time in ages (usually I just
hibernate to RAM). Fluxbox is behaving very strangely. I have the Alt
keys bound to a number of handy things, such as switching windows and
switching desktops. None of the alt combinations appear to work,
although Mod4 does, as does None Pause, None Scr_lock and None Print.
Also, my xterm windows are now decorated with a title bar which sticks
out above the window frame.

Are these new fluxbox features? If so, how do I turn them off? If not,
what's going on?

Thanks,

Tyler


Those are external tabs, which I believe Fluxbox had a long time
ago and where recently brought back. I don't care for them myself.
To switch back to internal tabs, bring up the menu and select
Configuration > Tab Options > Tabs in Titlebar.


Cheers,
Kelly


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how to install firefox and its plugin in debian

2007-07-12 Thread Xinhao Zheng
hello all,
  I want to install firefox in my debian system,but when i downloaded
a linux version of firefox,it can not work?
  Any suggestion?


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Re: how to install firefox and its plugin in debian

2007-07-12 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/12/07 21:53, Xinhao Zheng wrote:

hello all,
  I want to install firefox in my debian system,but when i downloaded
a linux version of firefox,it can not work?
  Any suggestion?


In Debian, it's packaged as "iceweasel".


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Re: fluxbox weirdness

2007-07-12 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-07-13, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Those are external tabs, which I believe Fluxbox had a long time
> ago and where recently brought back. I don't care for them myself.
> To switch back to internal tabs, bring up the menu and select
> Configuration > Tab Options > Tabs in Titlebar.
>

Thanks!

Tyler


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OSS, ALSA, tv tuner problems persist :(

2007-07-12 Thread Michael Bonert
Addendum to:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg01181.html

I'm a big leap ahead.  I had a silly problem related to the volume (it was near 
zero).  

The fix is:
# apt-get install aumix

$ aumix
The TV tuner volume is influenced by the "CD" volume setting.  


Currently, I have a feedback problem. I wonder whether OSS and ALSA are 
fighting the background.  Any case, I have to do some more experimentation.  
The feedback goes away if I disable the KDE sound system.  That said, I have 
the sneaky suspicion it might be a driver bug.  I have a vague memory of the tv 
tuner not always playing nice. Several years ago, when I used it under Windows 
it created problems.  If I remember correctly, it also caused some problems in 
Debian at one point.

Michael

My 'dump-mixers' is now...

$ dump-mixers
/dev/mixer = EMU10K1 (SigmaTel STAC9708,11)
  vol( 0) :  stereo  rec   100/100
  bass   ( 1) :  stereo73/73
  treble ( 2) :  stereo70/70
  synth  ( 3) :  stereo100/100
  pcm( 4) :  stereo90/90
  speaker( 5) :  mono  48
  line   ( 6) :  stereo  rec   20/20
  mic( 7) :  monorec   20
  cd ( 8) :  stereo  rec   50/50
  pcm2   (10) :  stereo100/100
  igain  (12) :  stereo0/0
  line1  (14) :  stereo  rec   0/0
  dig1   (17) :  stereo47/47
  phin   (20) :  monorec   0
  phout  (21) :  monorec   100
  video  (22) :  stereo  rec*  0/0
/dev/mixer1 = MPU-401 UART (mixer10)

... earlier it was:
$ dump-mixers
/dev/mixer = EMU10K1 (SigmaTel STAC9708,11)
  vol( 0) :  stereo  rec   94/94
  bass   ( 1) :  stereo50/50
  treble ( 2) :  stereo50/50
  synth  ( 3) :  stereo100/100
  pcm( 4) :  stereo50/50
  speaker( 5) :  mono  0
  line   ( 6) :  stereo  rec   0/0
  mic( 7) :  monorec*  0
  cd ( 8) :  stereo  rec   0/0
  pcm2   (10) :  stereo100/100
  igain  (12) :  stereo0/0
  line1  (14) :  stereo  rec   0/0
  dig1   (17) :  stereo0/0
  phin   (20) :  monorec   0
  phout  (21) :  monorec   100
  video  (22) :  stereo  rec   0/0
/dev/mixer1 = MPU-401 UART (mixer10)

Hardware:

Athlon 2200 XP
ASUS A7N8X (Motherboard)
512 MB RAM

TVCard: ATI-TV Wonder
Sound: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live!

Software:

Debian GNU/Linux -- testing
Kernel -- Linux version 2.6.18-4-k7 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12) ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP 
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mpeg or avi to gif

2007-07-12 Thread gustavo halperin

Hello List

 There are any way to convert mpeg or avi movies to gif file.


 Thank you in advance,
   Gustavo


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Re: start-stop-daemon: how to pass environment variables to the daemon

2007-07-12 Thread Dallas Clement
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 11:13 +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> A daemon invoked by start-stop-daemon needs some extra enviroment
> variables.  How to pass them to the daemon?  Thanks in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> Yuwen

I'm not sure if you meant environment variables or command line
arguments for the daemon.  Here is an example of how to provide a
command line arg to the udhcpc daemon.  You just put a '--' in front.

# Start a DHCP client daemon on each of the physical interfaces
/bin/start-stop-daemon -b -S --exec /bin/udhcpc \
-- --interface=eth0 \





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Re: start-stop-daemon: how to pass environment variables to the daemon

2007-07-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Yuwen Dai wrote:
> A daemon invoked by start-stop-daemon needs some extra enviroment
> variables.  How to pass them to the daemon?  Thanks in advance.

Typically in Debian start-stop-daemon is called from within the boot
time /etc/init.d/* scripts.  Typically those scripts will source
customization files from /etc/default/@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  You did not say
but if your situation is typical then customizing the corresponding
/etc/default/ file will be the most normal way to do it.

Bob


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Re: Script polluted by DOS formatting

2007-07-12 Thread Mike McCarty

William Pursell wrote:

Francesco Pietra wrote:

A script downloaded to a desktop i386/etch/gnome from Amber web site, 
edited on
the desktop with gnome text editor, then sent scp to a computing 
machine amd64,

turned out to be polluted by DOS formatting.

The computing program was prevented from reading the polluted lines.

I tried

dos2unix scriptfilename

which failed to clean the script. Opening the script with vim did not 
reveal

the problem. It was only



When you open the file in vim, type:
:set fileformat

It will probably report:
fileformat=dos

Then type
:set fileformat=unix

When you write the file, the  dos style line terminators
will be replaced by  only.


I suppose you mistyped " only".

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Re: Script polluted by DOS formatting

2007-07-12 Thread William Pursell

Francesco Pietra wrote:

A script downloaded to a desktop i386/etch/gnome from Amber web site, edited on
the desktop with gnome text editor, then sent scp to a computing machine amd64,
turned out to be polluted by DOS formatting.

The computing program was prevented from reading the polluted lines.

I tried

dos2unix scriptfilename

which failed to clean the script. Opening the script with vim did not reveal
the problem. It was only


When you open the file in vim, type:
:set fileformat

It will probably report:
fileformat=dos

Then type
:set fileformat=unix

When you write the file, the  dos style line terminators
will be replaced by  only.

:help fileformat for details


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Re: xprint config

2007-07-12 Thread Gernot Hassenpflug
Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> s. keeling on 11/07/07 02:40, wrote:
>> Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>  does anybody here have any xprint config experience? My old
>>>  workstation is getting a bit bloated, xprint is up the creek and I
>>>  can't print to file / PS / PDF. /../
/../
>> Have you read the stuff in /usr/share/doc/xprint and xprint-common
>> and xprint-utils?  Have you:
>>
>>export XPSERVERLIST=`/etc/init.d/xprint get_xpserverlist`
>>
>> in your startup shell config?  It also suggests:
>>
>>export LPDEST=lp   # <-- edit to taste.
>>
>> may be useful, but I haven't needed it.
>>
>> The things I've seen so far say it help mozilla browsers print.  Is
>> that all?  How to get OOo to use it?  Dunno.  It doesn't appear to
>> need it.

AFAIK: Mozilla had native PS printing, that development stopped and
xprint was introduced. The two systems are still there, side by
side. The xprint printers can be recognized by the port number being
given as well. In my experience, xprint is better, but tuning the
drivers can be a pain. In fact, as many have noted, Mozilla printing
interface is a pain - margins get overwritten, of CUPS configurations
ignored, etc.

> Amusingly I only want it because it allows you to print to file easily
> with two default printers that it sets up for you, one for PS and one
> for PDF, and it puts them in your home directory. Very nice and
> convenient, but it doesn't do it.

The cups-pdf pacakge will allow you to print to PDF from OO and other
software that obeys CUPS configurations. PS is also a usual option.
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Re: Eeek?! smbmount is deprecated?!

2007-07-12 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El jue, 12-07-2007 a las 16:37 +0300, tejas escribió:
[...]
> echo "unmounting shares..."
> sudo /home/tejas/Desktop/ayir # unmount script
> 
[...]
> and ayir: (unmount script)
> 
> #! /bin/bash  
> SHA="masaustu firefox thunderbird Downloads"
> if [ `whoami` != "root" ]; then echo "you must be root"; exit; fi
> 
>   for i in $SHA; do
>   sudo umount -l /home/tejas/Desktop/$i

Just a silly correction: the script only gets to this point if it's
running as root, therefore the 'sudo' here is not necessary.

>   sleep 5
>   done
> 
[...]
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Re: Mysql clustering

2007-07-12 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 02:51:01PM +1000, Will Parkinson wrote:
>Cluster Configuration
>-
>[ndbd(NDB)] 2 node(s)
>id=2@202.***.**.01  (Version: 5.0.32, starting, Nodegroup: 0)
>id=3@202.***.**.02  (Version: 5.0.38, starting, Nodegroup: 0)

The above shows that your data nodes have not yet started, so
nothing else is going to work.

>[ndb_mgmd(MGM)] 1 node(s)
>id=1   (Version: 5.0.32)
>[mysqld(API)]   2 node(s)
>id=4 (not connected, accepting connect from any host)
>id=5 (not connected, accepting connect from any host)

The API servers (mysqld) won't connect until the data nodes have
formed a cluster.

>I installed all mysql servers using apt-get install mysql-server
>Does anybody know how to get the mysql api nodes to connect
>correctly?

You'll need to work out why your data nodes have not finished
starting yet.  Did you remember to start them with the --init
paramter the first time?

FWIW I have found MySQL Cluster to be extremely unstable and not yet
suitable for production use.

Cheers,
Andy

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