Re: installing packages from testing in sarge

2006-02-12 Thread Adorean Alexandru Raul

Martin Paraskevov wrote:

Hello,

I am a newcomer to the list and have the following question to ask. I 
have recently installed debian sarge (the stable distribution) but 
when I search for mozilla-firefox with:


apt-cache show mozilla-firefox

I get an older version of the browser.

1. Can I install software from the testing distribution under sarge.  
For example if I add a line in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Or do I 
have to upgrade to the testing etch.


2. What command can I use in the shell to edit the 
/etc/apt/sources.list file but not manually but through interface. I 
think there was a tool like this but I don't remember what it was.


Regards,
Martin


use apt-setup

try your local mirors :P

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Re: Struggling with Xf86config

2006-02-12 Thread Adorean Alexandru Raul

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

pinecone wrote:

  

Now, the /dev/psaux is what Knoppix does for the same machne, so I tried
it.  Knoppix runs just fine and it is based on Debian so you can imagine
MY UTTER FRUSTRATION!

pinecone


Have you tried changing the protocol to "imPS/2"?
Cheers,
Jonathan



  

Hello.

   I had the same problem.. (my mouse wasn't moving). I have a post 
sove 1 or 2 weeks ago where i asked about /dev an i was given a solution.


Try using this command on: /dev/psaux   /dev/input/mice and so on. Afer 
u've entert the command try moving the mouse. If text starts to apear on 
your screen,

u've found the mouse and set it in the xf86 config file manualy.

cat /dev/input/mice | hd


Good Luck
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Re: installing packages from testing in sarge

2006-02-12 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Martin Paraskevov (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I am a newcomer to the list and have the following question to ask. I
> have recently installed debian sarge (the stable distribution) but
> when I search for mozilla-firefox with:
> 
> apt-cache show mozilla-firefox
> 
> I get an older version of the browser.
> 
> 1. Can I install software from the testing distribution under sarge.

In general: no, you can't. A lot of stuff from testing is incompatible
to stable, and if upgrade some packages to testing, a lot of other
stuff needs to be upgraded as well. You will end up with a mixed
system, possibly more or less broken.

> For example if I add a line in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Or do I
> have to upgrade to the testing etch.

Either upgrade completely to testing (which I don't recommend if you
don't know how to do it), or use stable and get updated packages of
Firefox that were built for /your/ system. Take a look at
http://www.backports.org, but read the instructions carefully. If you
don't, you will accidentially install all the packages from there,
instead of only those you want.

> 2. What command can I use in the shell to edit the
> /etc/apt/sources.list file but not manually but through interface. I
> think there was a tool like this but I don't remember what it was.

You can use any text editor (e.g. nano, vi, vim, emacs), or run
apt-setup.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: iAudio and Debian

2006-02-12 Thread Jim McCloskey
|> What is it about the iAudio that makes it not work, when the sandisks
|> and the camera work perfectly? Is there some funky kernel config
|> option that I don't know about but which is necessary? Is there anyone
|> who has one of these working?

Replying to my own post, in case it might help others who experience the same 
problem.

I got nowhere with this until I asked on linux-usb-users. There Matt Dharm and 
Alan Stern 
quickly established that the problem was that the player was supplying some 
crucially wrong
information to the kernel. Alan supplied a short patch against unusual_devs.h 
in the 2.6.15 
kernel source, and that solved the problem. 

More detailed information (and the patch), can be found at the linux-usb-user 
mailing list
archive (on sourceforge.net among other places) under the thread-name `iAudio 
issue'.

Jim


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cannot move file /var/log/XFree86.1.log.old

2006-02-12 Thread ENI WATI
Hi!!  My name is eniI have a problem with my OS (I use Knoppix ).It happend when I had just installed LIDS (Linux Intrusion Detection System) in Knoppix.The problem is that the sintax :    $ startx -- :1  cannot be used / cannot work when I want to enter GUIand there is message such as :    cannot move file /var/log/XFree86.1.log.old  Then, I try to use sintax :  $ startx  but, it doesn't work too.  Is there one of you (or all of you) knows about the solution of this problem ?If you knows, would you send the solution to me by e-mail in :    [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I would so thanked full to you !! :) 
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Re: Tiny fonts in Blackbox

2006-02-12 Thread cga

Juanjavier Martínez wrote:

Got xfonts-base-transcoded, xfonts-75dpi-transcoded and 
xfonts-100dpi-transcoded all installed in the system.


Checked from top to bottom .blackboxrc file: didn't find where to 
specify the size of the fonts :-(


Had a go on documentation on configuration can be found at [0] and [1].


[0] http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxDocumentation
[1] 
http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxDocumentation/BlackboxConfiguration 



Could someone help?

Thanks in advance,

Juan Javier Martínez.


blackbox fonts are specified in the different "style" files - presumably 
in /usr/share/blackbox/styles.


so a simple but clumsy way to change the fonts for a given theme/style 
would be to create your own styles directory..  copy your favorite style 
file and edit it to your liking.


I'm pretty sure there is a more elegant way to do this by defining X 
resources in your ~/.Xdefaults file but I have never done that myself..


man blackbox should have the details.

HTH


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Re: "No volume control elements and/or devices found" after upgrade to etch

2006-02-12 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Luc Saffre escribe:
> I am running Debian on a Dell Latitude 110L notebook. Recently I
> upgraded from sarge to etch. Now my sound system is dead. On each start
> of either KDE or Gnome I get a message box "No volume control elements
> and/or devices found".

Maybe you should start from the beginning and check if modules for
your sound card are loaded.

$ lsmod | grep snd
$ cat /proc/asound/cards

If they aren't, maybe installing alsa-utils and running alsaconf as
root could help.

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Re: installing packages from testing in sarge

2006-02-12 Thread Dexter
name of the tool is Synaptic Package Manager.  You can add also
repositories for testing distribution, but i thing, that than you
actualy upgrade to testing. If you choose package from testing
distribution, than dependencies will require also other packages from
testing.  Not sure about this. 
Dexter

On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 19:52 -0500, Martin Paraskevov wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am a newcomer to the list and have the following question to ask. I
> have recently installed debian sarge (the stable distribution) but
> when I search for mozilla-firefox with:
> 
> apt-cache show mozilla-firefox
> 
> I get an older version of the browser.
> 
> 1. Can I install software from the testing distribution under sarge.
> For example if I add a line in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Or do I
> have to upgrade to the testing etch.
> 
> 2. What command can I use in the shell to edit
> the /etc/apt/sources.list file but not manually but through interface.
> I think there was a tool like this but I don't remember what it was.
> 
> Regards,
> Martin
> 


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Re: Ftp Error 421 Service not available loggin in from LAN into the router

2006-02-12 Thread Mark-Walter
Hi List,

sorry for my mail the problem is solved.

> 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection

I just had a look into my /etc/hosts.deny and this was the problem as
I've blocked ftp login's.

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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-12 Thread Rodney Richison

>>I personally prefer emacs, but it doesn't really have a graphical HTML
>>edit mode that I'm aware of.  Perhaps somebody else here on the list can
>>make a better suggestion for a GUI HTML editor.
>>
>>
>>
>>
Have a look at NVU.


>
> Quanta Plus is pretty good.  It has a page editor that generates the HTML 
>coding, plus it has dialog windows for developing CSS files and other various 
>items like tables or forms.
>
>
>  
>

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Re: catch-22 upgrade (FYI)

2006-02-12 Thread Colin
Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Hello.  Just some info for those considering upgrading from Sarge to
> Etch (or Sid).  I just upgraded my system from Debian Sarge, to Debian
> Sid.  I initially set out to upgrade to Etch, but circumstances drove me
> to Sid. I changed the repositories in my sources.list from sarge to
> etch, and proceded.  After a while it gave an error reading, claiming
> that to upgrade udev, the kernel image had to be greater than 2.6.12 (I
> was using 2.6.8).  When trying to install the 2.6.15 kernel image, it
> complained that a newer version of udev was required.  The xserver
> protested, committing hare-kare, and I was left using Lynx, and Pico
> (not the cutting edge software I had been anticipating, needless to
> say.)  Running "apt-get -f install" did nothing. I then altered the
> sources from Etch, to Sid, and, giving me hope, various changes
> occurred.  However, it left me with the same message, that the new udev
> was required.  I rebooted using the 2.4.27 kernel image, and ran
> "apt-get -f install", and, strangely enough, it worked.  The new kernel
> installed, udev installed, the xserver came back to life, and I ended up
> in an XFCE desktop, with my home directory in tact.  An unexpected
> surprise, to be sure, though I'm quite happy to have salvaged my system.
> I'm hoping one day that I'll be samrt and actually make a back-up of my
> system before trying stuff like upgrading again.  My OpenOffice.org 2.0
> (converted from alien) seems to have vanished.  I think my gnome desktop
> environment is a casualty as well, but at least my home directory still
> exists.

The solution to this is to uninstall the initrd-tools package and to
install yaird and then install the new kernel.


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Exim vs. Postfix for memory

2006-02-12 Thread Desmond Rivet
Hi all,

I've just installed Debian 3.1 on an old Pentium 200 and the default MTA
seems to be exim. Now, as it turns out, I'm a bit more familiar with
Postfix and hence I ended up using that on my system. 

However, memory is scarce on this computer, so I'm beginning to wonder
if Postfix is the best choice. Does anyone have any insight into the
respective memory usage of Postfix and Exim? Which uses less memory?

I'm currently using the MTA for nothing more than a) receiving mail from
fetchmail (which fetches it from my ISP POP account) and b) for getting
mail off my system to my ISPs SMTP server.

Thanks in advance!

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Debian/testing ... Problem with perl.

2006-02-12 Thread Rubén Navarro Huedo
Hello friends:
I am using debian/testing.
After an apt-get upgrade i am having problems with my perl:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ oowriter
Insecure dependency in mkdir while running setuid at /usr/bin/oowriter line
61,  line 5.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ vncserver
Insecure $ENV{PATH} while running setuid at /usr/bin/vncserver line 672.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Is it now in secure mode?
I don't know :(

Please... I need some help.

A lot of thank's.

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Troubles with Removing/Installing packages

2006-02-12 Thread ccostin
Is there  any possibility to install a .deb package (in Debian SID)
using apt-get
without removing other packages (he following packages will be REMOVED
...) like in the example below ?

Or, avoiding  installing  unwanted  packages, that don't have nothing  to do
with with desired package (linke in example aptiutude <->  sodipodi,
sodipodi is Not installed)

#apt-get update
#apt-get install aptitude
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
 capplets-data gnome-applets-data gnome-menus gnome-panel-data
gtkhtml3.8 libecal1.2-3 libegroupwise1.2-8
 libgconfmm-2.6-1c2 libglademm-2.4-1c2a libglibmm-2.4-1c2a
libgtkhtml3.8-15 libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a libsigc++-2.0-0c2a
 libsoup2.2-8 python-gmenu regexxer sodipodi
Suggested packages:
 libparse-debianchangelog-perl tasksel debtags
The following packages will be REMOVED
 gnome gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-core
gnome-desktop-environment gnome-office gnome-panel gnome-session
 gnome-terminal inkscape libgconfmm-2.6-1 libglademm-2.4-1
libglibmm-2.4-1 libgtkmm-2.4-1 libsigc++-2.0-0 nautilus
The following NEW packages will be installed
 aptitude gtkhtml3.8 libecal1.2-3 libegroupwise1.2-8
libgconfmm-2.6-1c2 libglademm-2.4-1c2a libglibmm-2.4-1c2a
 libgtkhtml3.8-15 libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libsoup2.2-8
python-gmenu sodipodi
The following packages will be upgraded:
 capplets-data gnome-applets-data gnome-menus gnome-panel-data regexxer
5 upgraded, 13 newly installed, 16 to remove and 288 not upgraded.
Need to get 17.8MB of archives.
After unpacking 12.4MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.

#dpkg -l sodipodi
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name  Version   Description
+++-=-=-==
un  sodipodi  (no
description available)



Re: Tiny fonts in Blackbox

2006-02-12 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:35:49AM +0100, Juanjavier Martínez wrote:
> Checked from top to bottom .blackboxrc file: didn't find where to specify 
> the size of the fonts :-(

The size of *what* fonts?  The fonts that applications are using, or the
fonts that the window manager is using for things like window titles?

Blackbox has no control over what applications do.  Its own fonts are
controlled by the style you tell it to use.

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Re: Should I Abandon Mutt and Exim4?

2006-02-12 Thread Thomas H. George
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 05:17:06PM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 01:54:31PM -0800, Tony Godshall wrote:
> } > ... I have the instructions to do this in a
> } > file but I have forgotten the vim command to attach it to this message.
> } > I'll re-post it if anyone needs it.
> } 
> } Generally one does not attach inside a text editor- that's a
> } MUA function.  One can include in vim/vi with...
> } 
> }   :r (filepath) (enter)Q
> } 
> } r is for "read".  
> 
> That just includes. To attach, you need to have edit_headers set in mutt
> and add one or more Attach: lines to the header with the path to the file
> you want to attach. Works great.
> 
> --Greg
> 
Thanks Greg.  It was include that I had forgotten and couldn't locate in
vim's help.  I guess it was vi's help that started with a list of all
the one letter commands.  At any rate thanks to you I know how to
include and attach.

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Re: Having problem with Exim4 / Authenticate and Relay

2006-02-12 Thread Thomas H. George
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 07:45:44PM -0500, Christopher Molnar wrote:
> I am having a problem with allowing relay access to any authenticated  
> user. I have added the "Accept Authenticated *" line into the config.  
> Authenticated users are still being denied relay access with an error  
> 550 .
> 
> I must have this capability as the majority of the people using the  
> server are laptop users and come in from a variety of other networks.
> 
> Can anyone give me any idea? I have read every bit of documentation I  
> can find and have gone through the file line by line. I am using the  
> Single config template format.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Chris
> 
I don't know if this helps though it solved my authenicate problem.  I
take no credit as I learned it from an earlier posting by Sridar M. A.


Sridar M. A. wrote:

"The passwd_client seems to be Debian specific but it did not work.  I edited 
/etc/exim4/conf.d/30_exim4-config_examples to include  the login id and 
password.  Just including below the relevant section: 

plain: 
  driver = plaintext 
  public_name = PLAIN 
  client_send = [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
#.ifndef . . . 
. 
. 
. 
#.endif" 

I tried this at the time without success not realizing that his choice of file 
to edit was appropriate when using a split configuration. After floudering 
around wildly and asking a lot of dumb questions it finally dawned on me that I 
was not using a split configuration.  Accordingly I went to /etc/exim4, ran 
grep -n plain: exim4.conf.template, used vi to edit at the line number adding a 
line client_send = [EMAIL PROTECTED] and commenting out all the lines of the if 
statement, and then ran update-exim4.conf.  After this mail from Mutt was sent 
with no problem. 
> 
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Re: udev is ruining my life

2006-02-12 Thread John W. M. Stevens
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:25:29AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Mitchell Laks wrote:
> 
> "Last time" (TM) I tried udev it was a disaster. I now run 2.6.15-ck3 
> w/o udev. Everything fine.
> 
> This subject keeps coming up and as I watch the threads AFAICS udev's 
> rationale is architectural. Better for the world ultimately, but as of 
> yet a headache for the "common user", most of the time?, many times?, 
> sometimes?

Udev was a response to devfs.

Sadly, BOTH systems were poorly thought out.  Devfs tried to cover
dev, but was a VFS file system that the kernel maintainers thought
violated the unspoken, unwritten design rules of the kernel (devfs
forced "policy" into the kernel, or so it was claimed), besides
having a few bugs early on.

Udev was the user space devfs, but unfortunately, it was also designed
to cover all of dev, instead of just the sub-set of hot attach/detach
devices that make sense for a "dynamic" device file system.

Obviously, better interaction with existing kernel infrastructure is
necessary before udev can go live.

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OpenGL direct rendering

2006-02-12 Thread Brent Bailey
I love my Debian system, but the only complaint I have is with the time it
takes for the graphics to appear.  I can see the background get repainted
everytime I log in. I think that this might be related to the video driver
not having direct rendering enabled.  I am running kernel 2.6.12-1-686
from testing with the xserver-xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11.

I checked with http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and I got the following:

10024742Yes ATI Technologies IncRage Pro Turbo AGP 2X   ati

With discover video I get:

ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X

I seem to have two xservers on my system (apt-cache showpkg xserver-XFree86):

6.8.2.dfsg.1-11
4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1

I believe the first is the xorg and the second is the old XFree.  When I
run discover --xserver video, I get:

XFree86

Which is the video driver I installed from dpkg-reconfigure

When I run lsmod, I get:
...
r128   48512  0
drm67732  1 r128
...

I believe that r128 is the specific driver for the ATI Rage 128 chip. I
checked that this driver is in the kernel (ie. modprobe -l r128)

/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/drm/r128.ko

When I check for openGL support (glxinfo | grep render), I get the following:

direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

Why am I not getting OpenGL direct rendering?  Do I have to install any
other kernel modules?

The only other thing I can think of is that I didn't manually set the
video cards memory.  I could not see this on the card itself and it was 6
years since I bought it.  Is there a way to probe the video memory?  Can I
check that this is the same as what the xserver believes?

Thanks in advance for the help,


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OpenGL and video driver

2006-02-12 Thread Brent Bailey
I love my debian system, but I seem to have a problem with the video being
really slow.  I can see the screen being drawn each time I log in.  I am
running testing with kernel 2.6.12-1-686

I seem to have two xservers installed, apt-cache showpkg xserver-XFree86

6.8.2.dfsg.1-11
4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1

I believe that I am using the x-org 6.8.2, as it was the one that comes up
with dpkg-reconfigure.

Using http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ I the following for the video:

10024742Yes ATI Technologies IncRage Pro Turbo AGP 2X   ati

Checking for the Rage 128 specific driver (lsmod | grep r128)

r128   48512  0
drm67732  1 r128

and checked that the module is loaded in the kernel (modprobe -l r128)

/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/drm/r128.ko

I don't know how much memory the card has, as it is 6 years since I bought
it.  I left this blank in dpkg-reconfigure.  Is there a way to probe to
see if the cards memory is the same as what xserver sees?

When I check for OpenGL support (glxinfo | grep render) I get the following:

direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

Is there a way to find out what is needed for OpenGL direct rendering to
be enabled?

Thanks in advance,

Brent


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Re: installing packages from testing in sarge

2006-02-12 Thread Amadan Korvin
There is a section of the apt-howto reference that deals with keeping
a mixed system: 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-default-version
though you will end up writing to two different config files inside
/etc/apt, so if you aren't cool with that, then try this:

aptitude or apt-get install mozilla-firefox -t testing (or -t unstable)

it is true that usually keepign a mixed system is a disaster.  
however, in the case of firefox, not too many packages have to be
upgraded in order to support the latest version - apt-get will handle
this for you.  i am running a stable sarge with the unstable version
of firefox, with no problems.

cheers
adam black



Re: [PHP-DB] Help getting php up and running

2006-02-12 Thread John W. M. Stevens
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:19:05AM -0500, CasperLinux wrote:
> On Saturday 11 February 2006 10:54, David Kirchner wrote:
> > On 2/11/06, CasperLinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Anyone have any input? I am googling till my fingers hurt and everything
> > > I find says it should be running.  Whenever I try to open a test.php file
> > > all I get is the web browswer trying to save the file instead of serving
> > > up the php content.
> > >
> > > On Friday 10 February 2006 21:28, CasperLinux wrote:
> > > > LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_include.so
> > > > LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so
> >
> > That should probably be php4_module or something along those lines. It
> > needs to match whatever the .so was built for; it's not arbitrary.
> I did a dpkg-reconfigure apache a bit ago and this is now the php line in 
> modules.conf : 
> LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
> 
> Still won't come up.

Did you modify your apache2 config file to recognize the .php extension?

You need:

DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml

To be able to use index.php, and you need lines like:


  AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3
  AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps


To get the web server to recognize the .php extension and execute your
PHP files.

In apache2, the apache2.conf file should contain that first line, and
there should be php4.conf file in your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
directory that contains the second set of lines.

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Re: udev is ruining my life

2006-02-12 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:38:35AM -0700, John W. M. Stevens wrote:



And yet, through all of this, no one has yet bothered to read the udev FAQ.

Not that I like udev, or care whether or not anyone uses it or not, but the
depths of ignorance are appalling.

/usr/share/doc/udev/FAQ.gz  <-- if you have the package installed

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ
(if you don't have the package installed)

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Re: Tiny fonts in Blackbox

2006-02-12 Thread Juanjavier Martínez



On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:35:49AM +0100, Juanjavier Martínez wrote:

Checked from top to bottom .blackboxrc file: didn't find where to specify 



the size of the fonts :-(


The size of *what* fonts?  The fonts that applications are using, or the

fonts that the window manager is using for things like window titles?


The latter ones, since I am posting regarding a blackbox issue ;-)


Blackbox has no control over what applications do.  Its own fonts are

controlled by the style you tell it to use.


Great!

So how could I tell it to use bigger fonts on desktop and menus?

Taken from the Blackbox FAQ 
http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxFAQ/NewQuestions

*A1:* You can change the fonts on the window title bars by editing the current style file which you're 
using and changing the *font or window.title*font resource. To find out what style file you're currently 
using, grep your Blackbox config file (usually ~/.blackboxrc for session.styleFile).



As I stated above, found nothing on the .blackboxrc file (attached to this mail) regarding 
"font-size-on-desktop-environment" to tell it to do so.




Anyone?


Cheers,

Juan

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Re: Tiny fonts in Blackbox

2006-02-12 Thread cmetzler

Juanjavier Martínez wrote:
> Marc Wilson wrote:
>>On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:35:49AM +0100, Juanjavier Martínez wrote:
>>
>>> Checked from top to bottom .blackboxrc file: didn't find where to specify 
>>> the size of the fonts :-(
>>
>> The size of *what* fonts?  The fonts that applications are using, or the
>> fonts that the window manager is using for things like window titles?
>
> The latter ones, since I am posting regarding a blackbox issue ;-)
> 
>> Blackbox has no control over what applications do.  Its own fonts are
>> controlled by the style you tell it to use.
>
> Great!
> 
> So how could I tell it to use bigger fonts on desktop and menus?

Uh, by following the directions given in the FAQ?


> Taken from the Blackbox FAQ 
> http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxFAQ/NewQuestions
> 
> *A1:* You can change the fonts on the window title bars by editing the
> current style file which you're 
> using and changing the *font or window.title*font resource. To find out
> what style file you're currently 
> using, grep your Blackbox config file (usually ~/.blackboxrc for
> session.styleFile).

Which seems to spell out fairly clearly what to do here.


> As I stated above, found nothing on the .blackboxrc file (attached to this
> mail) regarding 
> "font-size-on-desktop-environment" to tell it to do so.

Why are you looking in .blackboxrc for something called
"font-size-on-desktop-environment"?  That's not what the FAQ, which
you quoted above, tells you to do.

Marc Wilson indicates above that the font is set in the style you
use.  The FAQ entry you quoted above says you change the font by
editing the style file you're using.  That's two different
directions to look at the style file you're using.  So it'd seem to
me that what you'd wanna do at this point is *look at the style file
you're using*.

So what style file are you using?  Where do you look?  Well, the FAQ
entry you quoted above says to look in .blackboxrc for the property
"session.styleFile" to find out what style file you're using.  So, it'd
seem to me that you'd wanna look for that property in your .blackboxrc.

-c





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GRUB and loading WinXP

2006-02-12 Thread J Merritt
I am using GRUB bootloader to load various OSes on a machine. The machine is set to boot from hdb. For some reason anytime I want to boot Windoze (loaded on hda1) I get garbled text and the machine locks up. I figure there is a flaw in the menu.lst syntax for the WinXP entry. Can someone take a look at the following and tell me what the problem is. Tx for any help.title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.27-2-686  root    (hd1,1) kernel    /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hdb2 ro  initrd    /boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-686 savedefault boot  title  
 Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.27-2-686 (recovery mode) root    (hd1,1) kernel    /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hdb2 ro single initrd    /boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-686 savedefault boot  ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST  # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian # ones. title   Other operating systems: root   # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS # on /dev/hda1 title   Microsoft Windows XP Professional rootnoverify  (hd1,0)
 chainloader +1   # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing # linux installation on /dev/hda5. title   Mandrakelinux 10.1 root    (hd1,4) kernel    /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda6 splash=silent  initrd    /boot/initrd.img savedefault boot   # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing # linux installation on /dev/hda5. title   linux-nonfb (on /dev/hda5) root    (hd1,4) kernel    /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda6  initrd    /boot/initrd.img savedefault boot   # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing # linux installation on /dev/hda5. title   failsafe (on /dev/hda5) root    (hd1,4) kernel    /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro failsafe acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda6  initrd    /boot/initrd.img savedefault boot    
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2006-02-12 Thread Paul Scott
Something I upgraded a few weeks ago turned the fonts in emacs 21 (X11) 
into squares and I don't know to diagnose it.  Can anyone help?


TIA,

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Re: can't run root as regular user

2006-02-12 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 09:44:04PM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Hello.  I recently upgraded to Sid, and I cannot run root commands as a 
> regular user.  When I try to run Synaptic, I get the following message 
> after entering the root password:
> "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root:
> Failed to communicate with gksu-run-helper.

I don't use Synaptic and I don't use Gnome at home, but two things
spring to mind:

1. gksu-run-helper is in the libgksu1.2-0 package.  Is that installed
on your system?

2. Are you in the /etc/sudoers file?  If not, log in as root and run
the visudo command.

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Re: GRUB and loading WinXP

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Scott

J Merritt wrote:

I am using GRUB bootloader to load various OSes on a machine. The 
machine is set to boot from hdb. For some reason anytime I want to 
boot Windoze (loaded on hda1) I get garbled text and the machine locks 
up. I figure there is a flaw in the menu.lst syntax for the WinXP 
entry. Can someone take a look at the following and tell me what the 
problem is. Tx for any help.





title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.27-2-686
root(hd1,1)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hdb2 ro
initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-686
savedefault
boot

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.27-2-686 (recovery mode)
root(hd1,1)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hdb2 ro single
initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-686
savedefault
boot

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the 
Debian

# ones.
title   Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a 
non-linux OS

# on /dev/hda1
title   Microsoft Windows XP Professional
rootnoverify  (hd1,0)
chainloader +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda5.
title   Mandrakelinux 10.1
root(hd1,4)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro acpi=ht 
resume=/dev/hda6 splash=silent

initrd/boot/initrd.img
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda5.
title   linux-nonfb (on /dev/hda5)
root(hd1,4)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro acpi=ht 
resume=/dev/hda6

initrd/boot/initrd.img
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda5.
title   failsafe (on /dev/hda5)
root(hd1,4)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro failsafe acpi=ht 
resume=/dev/hda6

initrd/boot/initrd.img
savedefault
boot


What works for me (as generated during the sarge net install) is:

title   Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root(hd0,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader +1

Paul Scott


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Re: GRUB and loading WinXP

2006-02-12 Thread J Merritt
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:What works for me (as generated during the sarge net install) is:title   Microsoft Windows XP Professionalroot(hd0,0)savedefaultmakeactivechainloader +1Paul ScottThat's similar to what was there previously. I will try to add those lines again. As  I remember, it would only work part of the time, but would always give garbled characters whether or not it actually worked.
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Re: GRUB and loading WinXP

2006-02-12 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:04:25 -0800 (PST)
J Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am using GRUB bootloader to load various OSes on a machine. The machine is 
> set to boot from hdb. For some reason anytime I want to boot Windoze (loaded 
> on hda1) I get garbled text and the machine locks up. I figure there is a 
> flaw in the menu.lst syntax for the WinXP entry. Can someone take a look at 
> the following and tell me what the problem is. Tx for any help.
> 
> 
> 
> title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 
> 2.4.27-2-686 
>  root(hd1,1)
>  kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hdb2 ro 
>  initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-686
>  savedefault
>  boot
>  
>  title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.27-2-686 (recovery mode)
>  root(hd1,1)
>  kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-686 root=/dev/hdb2 ro single
>  initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-686
>  savedefault
>  boot
>  
>  ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
>  
>  # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
>  # ones.
>  title   Other operating systems:
>  root
>  
>  
>  # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
>  # on /dev/hda1
>  title   Microsoft Windows XP Professional
>  rootnoverify  (hd1,0)
 ^^^

Are you really sure windoze is on hda1? Because this points at hdb1. For hda1 
you need (hd0,0)

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Re: GRUB and loading WinXP

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Scott

J Merritt wrote:




*/Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:



What works for me (as generated during the sarge net install) is:

title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root (hd0,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader +1

Paul Scott



That's similar to what was there previously. I will try to add those 
lines again. As  I remember, it would only work part of the time, but 
would always give garbled characters whether or not it actually worked.


Are you sure the Windoze partition is not broken?  How about making sure 
you can restore the GRUB afterward and try putting the MS MBR back as a 
test?


Paul


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Re: Exim vs. Postfix for memory

2006-02-12 Thread Steve Lamb

Desmond Rivet wrote:

However, memory is scarce on this computer, so I'm beginning to wonder
if Postfix is the best choice. Does anyone have any insight into the
respective memory usage of Postfix and Exim? Which uses less memory?


Well, Exim here (heav) uses 8Mb.  However the one that would use the 
least would be run from inetd and only loaded when needed.  :)


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Re: Tiny fonts in Blackbox

2006-02-12 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 06:20:31PM +0100, Juanjavier Martínez wrote:
> The latter ones, since I am posting regarding a blackbox issue ;-)

Which means nothing.  You don't specify... and since I'm not interested in
beating details out of cluebies... I *asked*.

> So how could I tell it to use bigger fonts on desktop and menus?

Blackbox couldn't care less about your "desktop".  Look at the
documentation for whatever application manages your "desktop" to determine
how to control its fonts.  Nautilus, ROX-Filer, idesk, and others are
usually used for that purpose.

Blackbox manages windows.  That's all it does.  To that end, it decorates
them with a title bar and other controls.

> Taken from the Blackbox FAQ 
> http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxFAQ/NewQuestions
> 
> *A1:* You can change the fonts on the window title bars by editing the 
> current style file which you're using and changing the *font or 
> window.title*font resource. To find out what style file you're currently 
> using, grep your Blackbox config file (usually ~/.blackboxrc for 
> session.styleFile).
> 
> As I stated above, found nothing on the .blackboxrc file (attached to this 
> mail) regarding "font-size-on-desktop-environment" to tell it to do so.

The FAQ entry doesn't tell you to invent blackboxrc entries at random to
search for, and then whine about them not being there. It tells you exactly
what to look for to find out what style file blackbox is using, and then
what to change in that style file to alter the fonts.

It's really not a big deal, once you actually bother to read.  Difficult, I
know, but you'll have to learn how someday.

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VMWare Server and Kernel?

2006-02-12 Thread Jan Johansson
I am about to set up a new VMWare host since VMWare Server is now a free
application.

I have understood that in order to complie the various modules, you "must"
use the exact same GCC for the kernel as for the module. 

Now, if I want to grab linux-image-2.6.15-686-smp and make sure I can build
the VMWare modules how would I go about doing that?

Can I download the kernel source and make an "exact copy" of the prepackaged
kernel somehow? As in, all modules compiled the same way and so forth?

Any hints appreciated!


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Re: Re: Tiny fonts in Blackbox

2006-02-12 Thread Juanjavier Martínez



Juanjavier Martínez wrote:

Marc Wilson wrote:

On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:35:49AM +0100, Juanjavier Martínez wrote:

Checked from top to bottom .blackboxrc file: didn't find where to specify 
the size of the fonts :-(


The size of *what* fonts?  



(...)

Marc Wilson indicates above that the font is set in the style you use.  


That was it. Problem solved. Thank you very much.

Greetings,

Juan Javier Martínez.



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help with quoting/expansion in bash

2006-02-12 Thread David Berg
I'm trying to write a for loop that descends into a list of
directories and runs a command.  I can't seem to get the quoting right
though.  Most of the directories have spaces and they are making
things difficult for me.  Here is what I have:

for DIR in dir\ 1 dir\ 2 dir\ 3; do
cd $DIR
pwd
cd ..
done

The spaces in $DIR aren't escaped.

Any help, including a pointer to the relevant part of TFM, is much appreciated.

--Dave


X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3

2006-02-12 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Using Unstable, KDE 3.5.1, gvim 6.4.6. To reproduce the problem do the 
following in konsole



$dcopquit kicker
$kicker
$gvim
exit the gvim window by entering
:q

After this, on the konsole there are error messages like

$X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
 Major opcode:  19
 Minor opcode:  0
 Resource id:  0x383

Is this a known bug?
Against which package should the bug be reported (gvim/kicker/konsole)?
Can someone reproduce it?
Is there a way to get rid of this problem?

thanks
raju


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Re: help with quoting/expansion in bash

2006-02-12 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 01:23:47PM -0600, David Berg wrote:
> I'm trying to write a for loop that descends into a list of
> directories and runs a command.  I can't seem to get the quoting right
> though.  Most of the directories have spaces and they are making
> things difficult for me.  Here is what I have:
> 
> for DIR in dir\ 1 dir\ 2 dir\ 3; do
> cd $DIR
> pwd
> cd ..
> done
> 
> The spaces in $DIR aren't escaped.
> 
> Any help, including a pointer to the relevant part of TFM, is much 
> appreciated.
> 
> --Dave
Hi Dave,
the 'magic' is to never bother with escaped space!! Just use double
quotes!

for DIR in "dir 1 dir 2 dir 3"; do
cd "$DIR"
pwd
cd ..
done
or something like it
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Re: VMWare Server and Kernel?

2006-02-12 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:21:26 +0100
"Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am about to set up a new VMWare host since VMWare Server is now a free
> application.
> 
> I have understood that in order to complie the various modules, you "must"
> use the exact same GCC for the kernel as for the module. 
> 
> Now, if I want to grab linux-image-2.6.15-686-smp and make sure I can build
> the VMWare modules how would I go about doing that?
> 
> Can I download the kernel source and make an "exact copy" of the prepackaged
> kernel somehow? As in, all modules compiled the same way and so forth?
> 
> Any hints appreciated!

You could try 'make oldconfig' using your current config (you can find it in 
/boot) and use make-kpkg to build a kernel package, which you can install with 
'dpkg -i your-kernel-package.deb'

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Re: help with quoting/expansion in bash

2006-02-12 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 11:23, David Berg wrote:
> I'm trying to write a for loop that descends into a list of
> directories and runs a command.  I can't seem to get the quoting right
> though.  Most of the directories have spaces and they are making
> things difficult for me.  Here is what I have:
> 
> for DIR in dir\ 1 dir\ 2 dir\ 3; do
> cd $DIR
> pwd
> cd ..
> done
> 
> The spaces in $DIR aren't escaped.
> 
> Any help, including a pointer to the relevant part of TFM, is much 
> appreciated.

cd "$DIR"

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Re: help with quoting/expansion in bash

2006-02-12 Thread David Berg
On 2/12/06, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> the 'magic' is to never bother with escaped space!! Just use double
> quotes!
>
> cd "$DIR"

I'm thinking too hard again.  I was trying to wrap it in {}.  Is there
a solution using braces as well?

Thanks.

--Dave


Re: OpenGL direct rendering

2006-02-12 Thread cga

Brent Bailey wrote:


I love my Debian system, but the only complaint I have is with the time it
takes for the graphics to appear.  I can see the background get repainted
everytime I log in. I think that this might be related to the video driver
not having direct rendering enabled.

I doubt it.  Sounds  more  like you're trying to run some major memory 
hogs on a system with limited ram..?



 I am running kernel 2.6.12-1-686
from testing with the xserver-xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11.

I checked with http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and I got the following:

10024742Yes ATI Technologies IncRage Pro Turbo AGP 2X   ati

With discover video I get:

ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X

I seem to have two xservers on my system (apt-cache showpkg xserver-XFree86):

6.8.2.dfsg.1-11
4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1

 

dunno about the current xorg but afaik the drivers for old ati cards in 
xfree86 do not support dri.


So the general idea is that if you want to enable dri you may have to 
look for a driver that supports direct rendering - if one is available.. 
and replace the standard driver provided by xfree/xorg.


I have an ati mach64 on this ancient laptop and I found a driver that 
*does* do dri at


http://www.retinalburn.net/linux/

maybe worth reading even if (?) they do not support your parcticular chip.

Naturally you could also check the manufacturer (ati)  site..  


[...]


Thanks in advance for the help,
 

Not sure this helps but as mentioned earlier I seriously doubt enabling 
direct rendering will fix your problem. Apart from curiosity, my 
personal excuse for installing a driver that enabled dri was taking a 
look at tuxracer. If you do want to pursue the dri option and increase 
the fps count when running glxgears you might reach folks more 
knowledgeable than myself on the comp.os.linux.x newsgroup.




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Re: VMWare Server and Kernel?

2006-02-12 Thread Greg Madden
On Sunday 12 February 2006 10:21, Jan Johansson wrote:
> I am about to set up a new VMWare host since VMWare Server is now a
> free application.
>
> I have understood that in order to complie the various modules, you
> "must" use the exact same GCC for the kernel as for the module.
>
> Now, if I want to grab linux-image-2.6.15-686-smp and make sure I can
> build the VMWare modules how would I go about doing that?
>
> Can I download the kernel source and make an "exact copy" of the
> prepackaged kernel somehow? As in, all modules compiled the same way
> and so forth?
>
> Any hints appreciated!

Vmware is the guest or contains the guest OS, running, hopefully , on a 
Debian host :-)
All you need is the headers for the running kernel.
Grab the header package that is the same version/revision as your kernel 
package. When you install Vmware,  Vmware knows the path to the headers 
and can compile the modules it needs.

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dead_keys

2006-02-12 Thread steef

hi list,

in dutch we use on some fonts accents. normally under linux_unix 
so_called DEAD_KEYS
regulate this. i cannot find them in/under debian_sarge in /etc/Xconfig. 

please can somebody tell me how to activate the DEADKEYS under sarge, so 
that i can use them accents *standard* with openoffice2.0.


thanks,

steef

postscriptum:  i know (of course of the specials in openoffice)




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Re: emacs fonts broken in my sid system

2006-02-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:20:39AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> Something I upgraded a few weeks ago turned the fonts in emacs 21 (X11) 
> into squares and I don't know to diagnose it.  Can anyone help?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Paul Scott
> 
Did you move to UTF-8 as your locale? Try installing all the X fonts
and see if the squares automagically turn back into letters.
I've had to do something similar on a machine displaying
Chinese/Japanese/Korean. Emacs' way of saying I can't display this font
is to put up a square box. In the right font, it automagically works :)

Andy
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Re: VMWare Server and Kernel? [u]

2006-02-12 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse [c]
I've ran VMWare Workstation 5 for some time now and it has the same
requirement. If you're running Debian stable this is usually not much of
an issue as you need only install the appropriate kernel headers package
which matches your linux-image package. Debian testing is a lil more
tricky as gcc/g++ could have been upgraded since the kernel was built,
but you can try the same technique as with stable. Debian unstable
you're most assuredly better off just compiling your own kernel image
and header packages using make-kpkg to save yourself a lot of grief.

Regards,
Jeremy

Jan Johansson wrote:

>I am about to set up a new VMWare host since VMWare Server is now a free
>application.
>
>I have understood that in order to complie the various modules, you "must"
>use the exact same GCC for the kernel as for the module. 
>
>Now, if I want to grab linux-image-2.6.15-686-smp and make sure I can build
>the VMWare modules how would I go about doing that?
>
>Can I download the kernel source and make an "exact copy" of the prepackaged
>kernel somehow? As in, all modules compiled the same way and so forth?
>
>Any hints appreciated!
>  
>


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Are pre-2.6.15 kernels incompatible with udev?

2006-02-12 Thread David Jarvie
I have updated my etch installation with the latest updates, which include 
kernel 2.6.15 and udev. I find now that when I boot up an older (customised) 
2.6.12 kernel, X fails to start up because it can't find the 
device /dev/psaux which is used for the mouse. Can somebody tell me how I can 
run my older kernel with etch and udev?

I need to run the older kernel because there are as yet no customised patches 
available for 2.6.15 which will allow me to upgrade my customised kernel.

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Intel Pro/1000 MT and strange ping RTTs

2006-02-12 Thread Mark Flocco
I'm currently running Debian sarge with the e1000 driver on a few
servers.  I'm seeing variable round trip times when I send pings to any
host from a host with the Intel Pro/1000 MT.  Meaning, I don't have to
ping between these hosts to get the variable RTTs.  Comparitively, on
two other servers which are also running sarge, I have extremely
consistent RTTs.  The RTTs are all sub millisecond, but it concerns me
that there is a fluctuation here.  My guess is that it's either related
to the Intel Pro/1000 hardware or the device drivers.  Does anyone have
any clues on this?  Incidentally, I've swapped out the switch and
tested it with the consistent ping time servers - it's not the switch. 
Oh, and all hosts are on the same switch.

Ping capture below:

64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.153 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.325 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.249 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.173 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.219 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.142 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.189 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.111 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.282 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.204 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=0.251 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=0.175 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=0.221 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=0.144 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=0.192 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=0.237 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=17 ttl=64 time=0.284 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=0.207 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=0.253 ms
64 bytes from 172.20.1.11: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=0.178 ms

Compared to non-Intel card servers:

64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.164 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.169 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.165 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.167 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.172 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.166 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.166 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.167 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.168 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.166 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=0.165 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.110: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=0.163 ms


Thanks,
Mark

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Re: dead_keys

2006-02-12 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:54:28PM +0100, steef wrote:
> in dutch we use on some fonts accents. normally under linux_unix 
> so_called DEAD_KEYS
> regulate this. i cannot find them in/under debian_sarge in /etc/Xconfig. 
> 
> please can somebody tell me how to activate the DEADKEYS under sarge, so 
> that i can use them accents *standard* with openoffice2.0.

This should be handled by your display manager (KDE, Gnome, etc).  Use
the config tools of your display manager to add a new keyboard layout.

I have KDE in Dutch, so I'll give directions using the Dutch titles:
go to "Configuratie Centrum", then "Regio en toegankelijkheid", then
"Toetsenbordindeling", then add "V.S. Engels met dode toetsen
(us_intl)" to your available keyboard layouts (possibly make that the
only one or set it as the standard).  Switch layouts with CTRL-ALT-K.

Note: I also use the Belgian layout which gives easy access to
e.g. the euro sign with RIGHT_ALT-E.

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Re: Are pre-2.6.15 kernels incompatible with udev?

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 10:02:47PM +, David Jarvie wrote:
> I have updated my etch installation with the latest updates, which include 
> kernel 2.6.15 and udev. I find now that when I boot up an older (customised) 
> 2.6.12 kernel, X fails to start up because it can't find the 
> device /dev/psaux which is used for the mouse. Can somebody tell me how I can 
> run my older kernel with etch and udev?

At a guess, udev won't start at all when it sees the older kernel, and
instead your system is using the real /dev directory from your root
filesystem.

You'll have to create /dev/psaux manually - use the MAKEDEV script (cd
/dev ; /sbin/MAKEDEV misc)

Cheers,

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Re: OpenGL direct rendering

2006-02-12 Thread Tim Connors
cga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:59:39 -0500:
> Brent Bailey wrote:
> >ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X
> >
> >I seem to have two xservers on my system (apt-cache showpkg xserver-XFree86):
> >
> >6.8.2.dfsg.1-11
> >4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1
> >
> dunno about the current xorg but afaik the drivers for old ati cards in 
> xfree86 do not support dri.

Sure it could:
ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)
DRI was supported by the r128 driver in all the XFree 4.3 series I used.

Hell, it worked better than xorg6.9 -- I could have both XVideo and DRI
enabled at the same time, and I didn't get XV allocation errors, and X
supported me providing my own modelines, instead of being limited to
what the internal LCD could display.  Sigh.  Progress, eh?


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how to use security update

2006-02-12 Thread Serena Cantor
I have added the line below to sources.list:

deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main
contrib non-free

but how to use security update from it? (which apt
command to use?) The Debian Security Manual is long, I
can't find answer. Thanks in advance! 

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Re: how to use security update

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Dwerryhouse
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 05:37:37PM -0800, Serena Cantor wrote:
> deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

Cheers,

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Re: OpenGL direct rendering

2006-02-12 Thread cga

Tim Connors wrote:


cga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:59:39 -0500:
 


Brent Bailey wrote:
   


ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X

I seem to have two xservers on my system (apt-cache showpkg xserver-XFree86):

6.8.2.dfsg.1-11
4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1

 

dunno about the current xorg but afaik the drivers for old ati cards in 
xfree86 do not support dri.
   



Sure it could:
ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)
DRI was supported by the r128 driver in all the XFree 4.3 series I used.

Hell, it worked better than xorg6.9 -- I could have both XVideo and DRI
enabled at the same time, and I didn't get XV allocation errors, and X
supported me providing my own modelines, instead of being limited to
what the internal LCD could display.  Sigh.  Progress, eh?
 


:-D

See my current thread about getting my good old laptop + 3com PC card to 
connect to the network after trying recent 2.6 kernels.. Sounds like 
linus & Co. hate laptops or what...?? The latest instalment in this 
sorry saga is that I installed ubuntu 5.10.. another 2.6.12 kernel.. 
Tried that since at least contrary to "etch", the installer was 
initially able to connect to the network.. Well I  just booted that 
brand new install a few minutes ago... and guess what..?? eth0 is up... 
but not configured properly: for one thing it doesn't have an IP 
address.. so this looks like I am going to stick with sarge & 2.4.27 for 
some time yet..


But thanks anyway for correcting me re: the r128 driver.. of course 
since the OP appears to be using xfree86 I'm not sure why direct 
rendering is not enabled out-of-the-box.. but then are you sure that he 
does have one of the chips that's supported by the r128 driver..? The 
video chip on my laptop turned out to be a mach/64 and lspci only 
outputs:  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility 
P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) .. ok.. it does say (rev) "64".. but it took me a 
while to figure out that all the literature concerning the ati mach64 
actually concerned me..



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Squirrelmail folder problem

2006-02-12 Thread ms linux
I've got Squirrelmail 1.4.5 installed on my unstable
box using sid with PHP4, uw-imap ssl and apache2.
The installation went fine. But everytime I access the
Folder link, there's nothing happen.
Apache2 error log says "Allowed memory size of
16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 169
bytes)".
I have my PHP4 set up to allocate 16M memory ( default
8M ).
Thanks.


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Re: Squirrelmail folder problem

2006-02-12 Thread Darryl Clarke
On 12/02/06, ms linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got Squirrelmail 1.4.5 installed on my unstable
> box using sid with PHP4, uw-imap ssl and apache2.
> The installation went fine. But everytime I access the
> Folder link, there's nothing happen.
> Apache2 error log says "Allowed memory size of
> 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 169
> bytes)".
> I have my PHP4 set up to allocate 16M memory ( default
> 8M ).
> Thanks.

Increase it more!

the error indicates it tried to go 169 bytes beyond the allocated 16mb.


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Re: Intel Pro/1000 MT and strange ping RTTs

2006-02-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, Mark Flocco wrote:
> servers.  I'm seeing variable round trip times when I send pings to any
> host from a host with the Intel Pro/1000 MT.  Meaning, I don't have to

And if you do that from a non e1000 host *to* an e1000 host?

Also, do you have traffic in the e1000 other than the ping?  Heavy traffic?
Light traffic?  Is NAPI enabled in the kernel?

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Re: Squirrelmail folder problem

2006-02-12 Thread mslinuz
Darryl Clarke wrote:
> On 12/02/06, ms linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>I've got Squirrelmail 1.4.5 installed on my unstable
>>box using sid with PHP4, uw-imap ssl and apache2.
>>The installation went fine. But everytime I access the
>>Folder link, there's nothing happen.
>>Apache2 error log says "Allowed memory size of
>>16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 169
>>bytes)".
>>I have my PHP4 set up to allocate 16M memory ( default
>>8M ).
>>Thanks.
> 
> 
> Increase it more!
> 
> the error indicates it tried to go 169 bytes beyond the allocated 16mb.
> 
> 
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> 
I think it's getting worse.
Now, apache doesn't log anything but clicking on the Folder link and so
with the left-sided folders result nothing.
Only my mouse keep cycling  :-(

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squirrelmail (stable) insists on apache2 when apache is installed

2006-02-12 Thread Carl Fink
The docs for squirrelmail say it depends on either apache2 or httpd
(virtual).  The httpd docs say it is supplied by many web server packages
including apache.  However, attempting to install squirrelmail on my server,
which runs apache, results in apt-get trying to install apache2.  Why?

Is this a bug?

Can I continue my record of asking questions nobody knows the answer to?

Oh, "stable" here is Sarge, not oldstable.
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Re: Struggling with Xf86config

2006-02-12 Thread pinecone




Jonathan Kaye wrote:

  pinecone wrote:

  
  
Now, the /dev/psaux is what Knoppix does for the same machne, so I tried
it.  Knoppix runs just fine and it is based on Debian so you can imagine
MY UTTER FRUSTRATION!

pinecone

  
  Have you tried changing the protocol to "imPS/2"?
Cheers,
Jonathan

  

I did make that change and it worked!  The other issue was that I was
using a deprecated config routine which was not properly writing to the
XF86Config-4 file.  It's now working fine, thanks for the assistance
everyone.

Pinecone




Testing upgrade breaks printing, mutt and xserver

2006-02-12 Thread Art Edwards

I just upgraded a testing machine and broke many items, including:
CUPSYSgs grinds endlessly on a test page for my HP5550 printer. 
I'm using hpijs and hplip

muttI receive send errors
xserver.org   This broke my graphics. I ended up reinstalling the 
previous xserver package,  which restored my 
graphics. This was particularly difficult because the entire 
   system would hang. I ended up booting into recovery mode to 
fix this.


The only completely intractable problem is CUPSYS. I don't know whether 
the problem is in gs or elsewhere. In top, gs, called by lp, is grinding 
constantly. Any insight would be appreciated



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Re: Intel Pro/1000 MT and strange ping RTTs

2006-02-12 Thread Mark Flocco

> And if you do that from a non e1000 host *to* an e1000 host?

Same result - variable times.

> 
> Also, do you have traffic in the e1000 other than the ping?  Heavy
> traffic?
> Light traffic?  Is NAPI enabled in the kernel?

The ping I pasted was with zero other traffic other than an ssh
session.  However, during times of high traffic (~8Mbps), the RTTs
increase, showing stress.  Not sure if that's typical on other
connections, but I don't see it on two other servers that I have
running.

NAPI is turned off.

Thanks again.
Mark

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Modifying the title of a Firefox window?

2006-02-12 Thread Marc Shapiro
I have just decided to go back to using Firefox instead of the 
Mozilla-Suite.  I've got it communicating properly with Thunderbird in 
both directions (which had been my problem, previously).


My wife, however, has been using Firefox all along, and if we both use 
the default profile (even in seperate windows) she is complaining that I 
am messing up her recently viewed pages and other things like that.  No 
problem.  I made new profiles for both of us using our names as the 
profile name.  I then juggled the defualt profile and my wife's new 
profile so that the old default is renamed to her profile and the blank, 
new profile is now the default.  I also have my profile softlinked to my 
old Mozilla-Suite profile so I have all of my bookmarks and the like, as 
well.  I even have the button-bar in fvwm so that a left click brings up 
Firefox wigth my profile and a right-click will bring it up with my 
wife's profile.  So far, so good.


Now, we each have seperate desktops that we normally have our browsers 
in, so we should be able to tell which one we are using.  But people 
make mistakes.  Even *I* make an occaisional mistake.  You right click 
when you should left-click, and vice-versa.  To catch those errors, I 
would like the title-bar for Firefox to display the user profile in 
addition to its normal information.


My problem is that I don't know where to look to try and find this, if 
it can even be done.  Looking at man firefox did not show anything that 
was likely to work, and man fvwm is crazy to look through if you don't 
know exactly where to look.  I tried there, but couldn't find anything.  
Does anyone know if this even CAN be done.  If so, where do I look to 
find the information.


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Re: Intel Pro/1000 MT and strange ping RTTs

2006-02-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, Mark Flocco wrote:
> session.  However, during times of high traffic (~8Mbps), the RTTs

8Mbits/s or 8Mbytes/s ? Anyway neither is much of a high traffic for an
e1000 on a modern host, unless you're using a very, very low MTU (and maybe
not even then).

> increase, showing stress.  Not sure if that's typical on other

I wouldn't call that stress, unless your switch is really awful.  But an RTT
increase is expected, there's now a queue to get through.  I asked because
that also increases jitter a *lot*, so it could account for what you
observed (if the pings and pongs were being priorized over the other
traffic).

> connections, but I don't see it on two other servers that I have
> running.

> NAPI is turned off.

Turn it on if the server deals with moderate/high traffic (say > 100Mbit/s
or > 1k pps).  But that will not fix the issue you have, I have NAPI on here
and I *think* I can reproduce your findings in a empty gigE to gigEsw to
gigE connection where one of the ends is an e1000.  I will know better if I
have time to check that at work.  The second gigE machine here has a crappy,
PoS NIC (Broadcom crap) that I never managed to drive over 300Mbit/s, so it
could be adding some jitter too.

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Re: emacs fonts broken in my sid system

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Scott

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:


On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:20:39AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
 

Something I upgraded a few weeks ago turned the fonts in emacs 21 (X11) 
into squares and I don't know to diagnose it.  Can anyone help?


TIA,

Paul Scott

   

Did you move to UTF-8 as your locale? 


I'm not sure if I did but I just reconfigured locales and selected only
en_US ISO-8859-1.


Try installing all the X fonts
and see if the squares automagically turn back into letters.
 

I tried installing as many fonts as looked relevant when the problem 
happened.  Is there some particular package that installs all the xfonts.



I've had to do something similar on a machine displaying
Chinese/Japanese/Korean. Emacs' way of saying I can't display this font
is to put up a square box. In the right font, it automagically works :)
 

I knew what the square boxes mean.  I just need to find the right font 
or find where the wrong font is referenced by emacs21.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: OpenGL direct rendering

2006-02-12 Thread Alex Nordstrom
Monday, 13 February 2006 10:06, cga wrote:
> But thanks anyway for correcting me re: the r128 driver.. of course
> since the OP appears to be using xfree86 I'm not sure why direct
> rendering is not enabled out-of-the-box..

Experience tells me that DRI for some of these cards is only enabled at 
lower than the maximum colour bit depth. One might need to set 
DefaultDepth to 16 instead of 24 in the Screen section.

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Re: OpenGL direct rendering

2006-02-12 Thread cga

Alex Nordstrom wrote:


Monday, 13 February 2006 10:06, cga wrote:
 


But thanks anyway for correcting me re: the r128 driver.. of course
since the OP appears to be using xfree86 I'm not sure why direct
rendering is not enabled out-of-the-box..
   



Experience tells me that DRI for some of these cards is only enabled at 
lower than the maximum colour bit depth. One might need to set 
DefaultDepth to 16 instead of 24 in the Screen section.


 

Another aspect that comes to mind is the "resolution" - relative to how 
much memory is built into your video chip. At my laptop's display's 
native resolution of 1400x1050 - 16 bit color depth - and with the 
paltry 8M of memory on the ati Mach64, X starts with direct rendering 
disabled. I need to start X at a lower resolution such as 1024x768 in 
order to enable dri.



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Re: Configuring pcmcia cards at boot-up

2006-02-12 Thread Dave Thayer
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 08:10:54AM +, Udo Klein wrote:
> Antonio,
> 
> adding "auto eth0" to /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work for PCMCIA 
> cards. I've already tried. In fact, it actually says so in 
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-trigger-auto
> It says there: "Never list PCMCIA interfaces in auto stanzas. The PCMCIA 
> cardmgr is started later in the boot sequence than when 
> /etc/rcS.d/S40networking runs."
> 
> But surely, there must be a way of configuring two PCMCIA cards during 
> boot up...

I'm not using my laptop at the moment, so I don't have the exact script
handy, but I have to do something similar to get my wireless card to behave.

I made an init script containing (IIRC) ``cardctl eject && cardctl insert''
or something similar and gave it a fairly late priority (S90 or so) so that
it gets called after the networking and pcmcia initscripts have run.

HTH

dt

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Re: OpenGL direct rendering

2006-02-12 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 12:36:48AM -0500, cga wrote:
> Alex Nordstrom wrote:
> 
> >Monday, 13 February 2006 10:06, cga wrote:
> >
> >>But thanks anyway for correcting me re: the r128 driver.. of course
> >>since the OP appears to be using xfree86 I'm not sure why direct
> >>rendering is not enabled out-of-the-box..
> >
> >Experience tells me that DRI for some of these cards is only enabled at 
> >lower than the maximum colour bit depth. One might need to set 
> >DefaultDepth to 16 instead of 24 in the Screen section.
> >
> Another aspect that comes to mind is the "resolution" - relative to how 
> much memory is built into your video chip. At my laptop's display's 
> native resolution of 1400x1050 - 16 bit color depth - and with the 
> paltry 8M of memory on the ati Mach64, X starts with direct rendering 
> disabled. I need to start X at a lower resolution such as 1024x768 in 
> order to enable dri.

You can also debug opengl problems by setting the LIBGL_DEBUG to
verbose, i.e.
export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
and then running glxinfo.

You should see the reason, why the direct rendering is not enabled. If
it says something like
Cannot open /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r128_dri.so
check that the file exists.

I think the module is in the xlibmesa-dri package, so if you don't have
that installed, you could try and install it.

HTH,
Simo
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Re: Re: Tiny fonts in Blackbox

2006-02-12 Thread Juanjavier Martínez



On Sun, Feb 12, 2006, 11:02:41 -0800 Marc Wilson wrote:

Which means nothing.  You don't specify... and since I'm not interested in
beating details out of cluebies... I *asked*.
 


It's really not a big deal, once you actually bother to read.


Bother to read. Absolutely. But you don't point *what* to read. I posted in
the need of help, remember?

Should I friendly suggest you beware the tone of your explanations, which
in the other side I acknowledge. :-) [the explanations, not the tone].

I must say anyway they were useless, since I managed to solve the issue in 
the end by myself completely. Your attitude did help nothing.




The FAQ entry doesn't tell you to invent blackboxrc entries at random to
search for,


Did I state that? 


Well, if this is the way you deal with people who hang around just to ask for
some advice, I would not recommend visit this list to any debian user I know.

Which on the other side doesn't stop to be a pity.

Have a good time smashing casual askers...;-)

And don't get me wrong: I am not offended.

Cheers,

Juan Javier.


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Re: udev strangeness in Sid?

2006-02-12 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 03:28:26PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
[..]
>I then found out that the problem is absent when I create my initrd
>with yaird instead of mkinitramfs. The yaird-generated initrd is also
>much smaller than the one from mkinitramfs (939 KB vs 2.1 MB).

Ah, didn't even know there were alternatives to mkinitrd. I was pretty
happy about the size reduction when swtiching from 'most' to 'dep' in
initramfs.conf. That took it from 4.5MB to 2.7MB. Switching to yaird
brought it down to 1.2MB as well as take away all the error messages.

/M

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Re: Sarge GPG Release signature

2006-02-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:50:17AM +0100, Alexandre Aufrere ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know exactly where to send the request, so i try here:
> Could someone from debian sign the Sarge "Release" file of the main
> repository with the 2006 key ?

FAQ, covered frequently in the past month here.  See:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174

... though the answer you need is in the discussion:

gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys
084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F ; gpg --export
084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add -; 

 
> I use apt-check-sigs, and it barks (with reason, since the 2005 key the
> current file is signed has expired - see below).
> http://people.debian.org/~ajt/apt-check-sigs

Note you need *both* the 2006 *and* 2005 keys.


Peace.

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Re: Branded Servers that support Debian GNU/Linux

2006-02-12 Thread John Oxley
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:10:29PM +0530, Rishi wrote:
> On 1/30/06, Rishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 1/30/06, david robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > i would suggest go for dell i am running 15 debian servers with dell
> > > hardware simply fantastic reliability and nicely running
> 
> Hi Again,
> 
> I have got a quote for a computer from the Dell company here in India.
> Dell (TM) PowerEdge(RM) SC430 Server. I've uploaded the full specs /
> details on the link below in PDF format.

I'm running Sarge and Etch on Sc420's with no problems except the
graphics card is a piece of crud, no 3D acceleration, at lease I can't
get it to work.  But then I shouldn't be using this sort of machine as a
desktop :)
-John


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Re: cannot move file /var/log/XFree86.1.log.old

2006-02-12 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 02:58:19AM -0800, ENI WATI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi!!
>   My name is eni
> I have a problem with my OS (I use Knoppix ).
> It happend when I had just installed 
> LIDS (Linux Intrusion Detection System) in Knoppix.
> The problem is that the sintax :
> $ startx -- :1
>   cannot be used / cannot work when I want to enter GUI
> and there is message such as :
> cannot move file /var/log/XFree86.1.log.old
>   Then, I try to use sintax :
>   $ startx
>   but, it doesn't work too.


Please run the following commands and post output:

   ls -l /var/log/XFree86.1.log.old
   lsattr /var/log/XFree86.1.log.old
   mount # No arguments, just 'mount'

... which should tell is if there is a permissions or attribute problem
with the file, or if you've mounted the filesystem read-only.

It's also possible that you've got disk errors, you might want to review
the output of 'dmesg' or /var/log/messages for any errors or messages
related to the disk in question.


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