Re: kde 3.5

2006-02-09 Thread Robert Kopp


--- "L.V.Gandhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2/8/06, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > try this:
> > deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ ./
> 
> did you upgrade? Is it working smoothly?
> --
You can also use konstruct to build it from source in
a user account. This is the safest way to do it, and
it's automated. In the case of a popular distro like
Debian, however, binary packages are probably
well-tested and reliable.

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Re: OpenOffice 2.0 Sarge or Etch

2006-02-09 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:10:03AM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
   > On 2/9/06, Sridhar M.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   > 
   > > As I said earlier, it has not broken my system. It might for others who
   > > have installed a different set of packages than mine.
   > 
   > > If it is of any interest, on my sarge system, I have currently installed
   > > the xorg system from backports + Nvidia binary driver. Another thing I
   > > liked is gimp 2.2.10 and inkscape 0.43 which are quite good.
   > > Everything is working well, including quake3 :-)
   > My help file was removed. nothing is available for 2 in backports.
   > 
Noticed it just now. I have not used the help system as I rarely use OO.
LaTeX is what I use regularly.

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Re: GNU Hurd

2006-02-09 Thread John Halton
On 2/9/06, Gabriel Parrondo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As Hurd is an official part of the GNU project, it's not GNU/Hurd, but GNU.
> I mean, if I use Windows with Linux (the kernel) it should be
> Windows/Linux. But if I use just Windows it's just windows, not
> "Windows/The windows kernel" or "Windows/kernel32.dll".

OK, fair enough, but even RMS accepts that GNU/Hurd is a useful term:

JA: How will we refer to a Hurd-based operating system? Is it GNU
Hurd, or GNU slash Hurd?

Richard Stallman: It's the GNU operating system, and the Hurd is its
kernel. But because it's so common for people to use version of GNU
that are based on Linux as the kernel, it's useful to contrast the
two, and talk about GNU/Linux and GNU/Hurd, which are two different
versions of the GNU system with different kernels.

See: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484

I think if you're out-pedanting *Richard Stallman* on free software
terminology then it's time to relax a little. :-)



Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

2006-02-09 Thread Renato Serodio
Servus, Privet, Hello,thanks for lending a hand at this.Jacob:below are the relevant parts of my xorg.conf. Concerning fps, I use glxgears for an estimate, just like Ivan. Peculiar is, with the generic 'ati' kernel module I get some 230 fps (it's a very small window), while with the 'radeon' k-module I get 153fps - and even drawing windows seems slower. Oh, I used to have Xscreensaver running a solid (cube,icosaedron, etc) drawing program - I used to get some 40~50 fps, depending on the number of faces.
My mainboard module is this intel_agp. Along with it are 'drm' and 'agpart'. 'radeon' is also around. I'll have a got compiling everything into the kernel to see if it comes out different this time.Again on the fps matter, there are some people saying that one should tax the board with Quake3 or Unreal Tournament demos to get a proper benchmark. 
Regards,Renato


Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

2006-02-09 Thread Renato Serodio
Oh, I forgot about the xorg.conf file..

# xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool,

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"glx"
Load"dri"
#   Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"type1"
Load"v4l"
Load"vbe"
SubSection  "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection
EndSection


Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]"
Driver  "radeon"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"

Option  "UseInternalAGPART" "yes"
Option  "RenderAccel" "true"
Option  "AccelMethod" "EXA"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
Option  "DPMS"
HorizSync   30-90
VertRefresh 50-60
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1680x1050"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode0666
EndSection


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Re: ntp strangeness

2006-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 21:30 -0500, Ken Wahl wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 07:20:55PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Nothing hugely wrong with that...  Talk to pool.ntp.org every 3 or
> > 4 hours, at a weird odd number of minutes past the hour (since most
> > people tend to choose :00, :30, etc).  That shouldn't be too bad.
> 
> I'm actually pulling it at 51 past the hour from Redhat's public NTP
> server (clock3.redhat.com) since it's right down the street from me. I
> need to pull it hourly as the drift is pretty significant even at 3 or 4
> hour intervals - anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes.

Sounds like your mobo is messed up.  My old mobo (a Shuttle SK41G)
drifted ~0.05 every 3 hours.  My new board (an Abit KV-81), drifts
more than 1/2 a second every 3 hours.

Also, have you checked chrony?  It is an independent implementation
of the ntp protocol.

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Re: ntp strangeness

2006-02-09 Thread Ken Wahl
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:57:11AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Sounds like your mobo is messed up.  My old mobo (a Shuttle SK41G)
> drifted ~0.05 every 3 hours.  My new board (an Abit KV-81), drifts
> more than 1/2 a second every 3 hours.

I had considered that at first but my gut still tells me that's not the
case. It was keeping perfect time with NTP until a big dist-upgrade and
a reboot. The board is 15 months old - an Abit AN7.

> Also, have you checked chrony?  It is an independent implementation
> of the ntp protocol.

I've heard of it but not tried it. I did try the openntp package before
NTP but tossed it for reasons I can't remember. I'm holding out to see
if a fix for bug  #342887 corrects things or not. The original bugreport
sounds exactly like the same symptoms I've been having.

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Re: Firewalling: best approach?

2006-02-09 Thread Laurent CARON

Bradley Alexander a écrit :

I am trying to configure a firewall, but nailing down the configuration
is eluding me. The box is running Debian stable. I have tried with
iproute2 (I'm including a description below), but not gotten the
intended effect. I have tried the lartc list, to no avail. A friend of
mine suggested setting up a virtual server for one set of interfaces and
running the other set on the native machine. Which is the best approach
to this? Muddling through the iproute2 configuration, or the virtual
server route? If virtual server, which would be the best one? Qemu? Xen?
VMware player or server (Free as in beer, but not is in speech)? 


Basically, I have a rackmount server with six network interfaces (2
onboard and a quad card). eth0 is the internal network, eth1 is a kiosk
network, eth2 is a DMZ/wireless network. On the outbound side, eth3 is a
DSL connection and eth4 is a cablemodem connection.

What I am trying to do is route all internal traffic out the DSL
connection (eth0 to eth3), and the two dmzs, kiosk and wireless out the
cable connection (eth1 and eth2 to eth4). Thus far as I have been unable
to get this to work.

For the sake of the discussion, the internal network is 10.1.1.0/24, the
kiosk is 172.16.1.0/24 and the dmz/wireless is 192.168.1.0/24. The dsl
line is 1.2.3.4 and the cable line is 9.8.7.6.

I added the following to rt_tables:

1   internal
2   kiosk
3   dmz

then created a script

ip rule add from 10.1.1.0/24 table internal
ip route add default via 1.2.3.4 dev eth3 table internal

ip rule add from 172.16.1.0/24 table kiosk
ip route add default via 9.8.7.6 dev eth4 table kiosk

ip rule add from 192.168.1.0/24 table dmz
ip route add default via 9.8.7.6 dev eth4 table dmz

When I run this script, it does not do what I expect, especially after
running the firewall rules atop it. I thought I had it nailed, but it
wasn't working as expected, and I really couldn't test very well.

I'm hoping some kind soul on this list might have a few minutes for an
email exchange to help me get this sorted out. If so, please email me
off-list. I'm sure its probably something that I overlooked, but I'm at
a loss as to what.

Regards,
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Hi,

You've got to use FW_MARK in iptables.

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debugger command history

2006-02-09 Thread linux china
hi,
I use 'perl -d ' to debug my code, and use up and down arrow to view the debugger command that I have inputed, but in my Debian 3.1 system, the up arrow doesn't function. I don't know why, anyone could help?


Re: Branded Servers that support Debian GNU/Linux

2006-02-09 Thread Rishi
On 1/30/06, Rishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/30/06, david robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i would suggest go for dell i am running 15 debian servers with dell
> > hardware simply fantastic reliability and nicely running

Hi Again,

I have got a quote for a computer from the Dell company here in India.
Dell (TM) PowerEdge(RM) SC430 Server. I've uploaded the full specs /
details on the link below in PDF format.

http://www.savefile.com/files/9345078

It says it's got a Inte(R) E7230 Chipset and 160 GB (7200 RPM) SATA Hard Drive

Does anyone if the Debian Sarge installer CD installs on this system
without any hickups?
- I need to get the display card to get detected for X windows
- Then I need it to detect the controller so that it can install the
160 GB Sata drive.
- Lastly I need it to detect the NIC is detected for accessing the network.

Anyone have any ideas / experience with this model on Debian?

Regards

Rishi



Re: Should I Abandon Mutt and Exim4?

2006-02-09 Thread Paul Scott

Vincent Lefevre wrote:


On 2006-01-13 17:04:23 +0100, Joachim Fahnenmüller wrote:
 


I also find exim difficult to configure.
   



Under Debian, there's almost nothing to do! Just answer a few questions.
 


That's great if you really understand the questions!

Paul Scott



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Installing Debian from a DOS partition

2006-02-09 Thread M. Maas
Hello List,

I recently got my hands on a Toshiba Libretto 110CT. Which is a very
small laptop, with no cd player, just a pcmcia floppy disk that only
works under DOS, because the Linux kernel does not have the drivers for it.

I've finally been able to upload files to and from the DOS partition
using a parallel cable connection.

I can also boot to DOS using either the hard drive or a boot floppy.

But how can I start installing Debian (total hard drive = 4Gb, the Dos
Partition = 1Gb) starting from DOS?

I've read [http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/index.html.en] but
it does not help me much in getting drivers for PCMCIA network cards, or
even starting up debian.

Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,
Mark


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Re: udev strangeness in Sid?

2006-02-09 Thread Magnus Therning
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:03:29AM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
>On 2/8/06, Ken Wahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:26:53AM +, Magnus Therning wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, just verified it on my second machine. udev apparently tries to run
>> > stuff located in '/lib/udev/', and it doesn't find it. I have 3745
>> > udevd_events written to the console during boot regarding this :( It
>> > seems the system isn't hurting from it though, everything's working fine
>> > AFAICT :)
>
>I wanted to know that How did you find it is 3745 lines? I also
>bootlogd enanled. But couldn't see in /var/log/boot.

The lines are pre-pended with a string that contains a number, and that
number increases by one for every line. I simply assumed it started from
1 and counted up :-)

I haven't been able to find the lines in any log file either... I'm not
sure what conclusions to draw from this, problem in the kernel?

/M

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OT: Re: Firewalling: best approach?

2006-02-09 Thread M. Maas
Hi,

Listen I don't want to be an ass... No really.. I don't!

But would the use shorewall not make it easier? Or even the IPcop
distribution?

Seriously, I'd like to know the reasoning behind choosing the manual
route instead of a easier automated one.

Thanks,
Mark

Bradley Alexander wrote:
> I am trying to configure a firewall, but nailing down the configuration
> is eluding me. The box is running Debian stable. I have tried with
> iproute2 (I'm including a description below), but not gotten the
> intended effect. I have tried the lartc list, to no avail. A friend of
> mine suggested setting up a virtual server for one set of interfaces and
> running the other set on the native machine. Which is the best approach
> to this? Muddling through the iproute2 configuration, or the virtual
> server route? If virtual server, which would be the best one? Qemu? Xen?
> VMware player or server (Free as in beer, but not is in speech)? 
> 
> Basically, I have a rackmount server with six network interfaces (2
> onboard and a quad card). eth0 is the internal network, eth1 is a kiosk
> network, eth2 is a DMZ/wireless network. On the outbound side, eth3 is a
> DSL connection and eth4 is a cablemodem connection.
> 
> What I am trying to do is route all internal traffic out the DSL
> connection (eth0 to eth3), and the two dmzs, kiosk and wireless out the
> cable connection (eth1 and eth2 to eth4). Thus far as I have been unable
> to get this to work.
> 
> For the sake of the discussion, the internal network is 10.1.1.0/24, the
> kiosk is 172.16.1.0/24 and the dmz/wireless is 192.168.1.0/24. The dsl
> line is 1.2.3.4 and the cable line is 9.8.7.6.
> 
> I added the following to rt_tables:
> 
> 1   internal
> 2   kiosk
> 3   dmz
> 
> then created a script
> 
> ip rule add from 10.1.1.0/24 table internal
> ip route add default via 1.2.3.4 dev eth3 table internal
> 
> ip rule add from 172.16.1.0/24 table kiosk
> ip route add default via 9.8.7.6 dev eth4 table kiosk
> 
> ip rule add from 192.168.1.0/24 table dmz
> ip route add default via 9.8.7.6 dev eth4 table dmz
> 
> When I run this script, it does not do what I expect, especially after
> running the firewall rules atop it. I thought I had it nailed, but it
> wasn't working as expected, and I really couldn't test very well.
> 
> I'm hoping some kind soul on this list might have a few minutes for an
> email exchange to help me get this sorted out. If so, please email me
> off-list. I'm sure its probably something that I overlooked, but I'm at
> a loss as to what.
> 
> Regards,
> --b
> 
> 
> 

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Re: synaptic will not display after upgrade

2006-02-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Rodney D. Myers wrote:
I'm running debain sarge on my laptop. After I got out of hispital, I 
ran upgrate/upgrade, but did not pay any attention to what was being 
upgraded.


Now when I try to run "sudo synaptic:, I keep getting this error;

sudo synaptic

(synaptic:22313): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:

I've even tried ssh'ing into this laptop, yet I get this same error 
message.




It's because in Sarge sudo was updated to version 1.6.8p7-1.3 and that 
put restrictions on environment variables.


You now have to add into your sudoers:

Defaults env_reset, env_keep+="DISPLAY"

and then sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic will work again.

H


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Re: OT: Re: Firewalling: best approach?

2006-02-09 Thread Clifford W. Hansen

Greetz,

Firstly I'm only top posting to keep with the flow...

secondly, I agree with Mark, I've used shorewall and found it really 
easy to use especially when you are lazy++ like me...


After installing shorewall "apt-get install shorewall shorewall-docs" 
you will need to set:


Firewall:~# vi /etc/default/shorewall
Now simply change
startup = 0
to
startup = 1
save, and exit.



   Shorewall configuration files are stored in two separate places:
/etc/shorewall stores all the program configuration files.
/usr/share/shorewall stores supporting files and action files.

   On the Debian package version of shorewall, /etc/shorewall is rather empty. 
Luckily, we're provided with default configuration files in 
/usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config

   Since we will need to use these config files to actually make Shorewall 
work, the first thing to do is to copy them over to /etc/shorewall:

Firewall:~# cp /usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config/* /etc/shorewall/

   Now our /etc/shorewall directory should have default copies of all the config files. Next we modify a few of them to get our firewall in basic working order. I'm only going to cover the basic configurations necessary to get the firewall working. Please read the documentation in each config file you edit so you can fully understand what each step is really doing! 


Taken from: http://www.cyberdogtech.com/firewalls/firewall/

Take a look at that website it has a couple of nice tips... also read 
the conf files, that should help alot aswell :)


Good luck

M. Maas wrote:

Hi,

Listen I don't want to be an ass... No really.. I don't!

But would the use shorewall not make it easier? Or even the IPcop
distribution?

Seriously, I'd like to know the reasoning behind choosing the manual
route instead of a easier automated one.

Thanks,
Mark

Bradley Alexander wrote:

I am trying to configure a firewall, but nailing down the configuration
is eluding me. The box is running Debian stable. I have tried with
iproute2 (I'm including a description below), but not gotten the
intended effect. I have tried the lartc list, to no avail. A friend of
mine suggested setting up a virtual server for one set of interfaces and
running the other set on the native machine. Which is the best approach
to this? Muddling through the iproute2 configuration, or the virtual
server route? If virtual server, which would be the best one? Qemu? Xen?
VMware player or server (Free as in beer, but not is in speech)? 


Basically, I have a rackmount server with six network interfaces (2
onboard and a quad card). eth0 is the internal network, eth1 is a kiosk
network, eth2 is a DMZ/wireless network. On the outbound side, eth3 is a
DSL connection and eth4 is a cablemodem connection.

What I am trying to do is route all internal traffic out the DSL
connection (eth0 to eth3), and the two dmzs, kiosk and wireless out the
cable connection (eth1 and eth2 to eth4). Thus far as I have been unable
to get this to work.

For the sake of the discussion, the internal network is 10.1.1.0/24, the
kiosk is 172.16.1.0/24 and the dmz/wireless is 192.168.1.0/24. The dsl
line is 1.2.3.4 and the cable line is 9.8.7.6.

I added the following to rt_tables:

1   internal
2   kiosk
3   dmz

then created a script

ip rule add from 10.1.1.0/24 table internal
ip route add default via 1.2.3.4 dev eth3 table internal

ip rule add from 172.16.1.0/24 table kiosk
ip route add default via 9.8.7.6 dev eth4 table kiosk

ip rule add from 192.168.1.0/24 table dmz
ip route add default via 9.8.7.6 dev eth4 table dmz

When I run this script, it does not do what I expect, especially after
running the firewall rules atop it. I thought I had it nailed, but it
wasn't working as expected, and I really couldn't test very well.

I'm hoping some kind soul on this list might have a few minutes for an
email exchange to help me get this sorted out. If so, please email me
off-list. I'm sure its probably something that I overlooked, but I'm at
a loss as to what.

Regards,
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Re: OT: Re: Firewalling: best approach?

2006-02-09 Thread M. Maas
Did not even think about the top posting on Debian lists.
To many lists, to many rules. ;-)

Anyway, don't forget to also secure your firewall the best way you can.
Good read: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#securing

Mark

Clifford W. Hansen wrote:
> Greetz,
> 
> Firstly I'm only top posting to keep with the flow...
> 
> secondly, I agree with Mark, I've used shorewall and found it really
> easy to use especially when you are lazy++ like me...
> 
> After installing shorewall "apt-get install shorewall shorewall-docs"
> you will need to set:
> 
> Firewall:~# vi /etc/default/shorewall
> Now simply change
> startup = 0
> to
> startup = 1
> save, and exit.
> 
> 
>>Shorewall configuration files are stored in two separate places:
>> /etc/shorewall stores all the program configuration files.
>> /usr/share/shorewall stores supporting files and action files.
>>
>>On the Debian package version of shorewall, /etc/shorewall is
>> rather empty. Luckily, we're provided with default configuration files
>> in /usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config
>>
>>Since we will need to use these config files to actually make
>> Shorewall work, the first thing to do is to copy them over to
>> /etc/shorewall:
>>
>> Firewall:~# cp /usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config/* /etc/shorewall/
>>
>>Now our /etc/shorewall directory should have default copies of all
>> the config files. Next we modify a few of them to get our firewall in
>> basic working order. I'm only going to cover the basic configurations
>> necessary to get the firewall working. Please read the documentation
>> in each config file you edit so you can fully understand what each
>> step is really doing! 
> 
> Taken from: http://www.cyberdogtech.com/firewalls/firewall/
> 
> Take a look at that website it has a couple of nice tips... also read
> the conf files, that should help alot aswell :)
> 
> Good luck
> 
> M. Maas wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Listen I don't want to be an ass... No really.. I don't!
>>
>> But would the use shorewall not make it easier? Or even the IPcop
>> distribution?
>>
>> Seriously, I'd like to know the reasoning behind choosing the manual
>> route instead of a easier automated one.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>> Bradley Alexander wrote:
>>> I am trying to configure a firewall, but nailing down the configuration
>>> is eluding me. The box is running Debian stable. I have tried with
>>> iproute2 (I'm including a description below), but not gotten the
>>> intended effect. I have tried the lartc list, to no avail. A friend of
>>> mine suggested setting up a virtual server for one set of interfaces and
>>> running the other set on the native machine. Which is the best approach
>>> to this? Muddling through the iproute2 configuration, or the virtual
>>> server route? If virtual server, which would be the best one? Qemu? Xen?
>>> VMware player or server (Free as in beer, but not is in speech)?
>>> Basically, I have a rackmount server with six network interfaces (2
>>> onboard and a quad card). eth0 is the internal network, eth1 is a kiosk
>>> network, eth2 is a DMZ/wireless network. On the outbound side, eth3 is a
>>> DSL connection and eth4 is a cablemodem connection.
>>>
>>> What I am trying to do is route all internal traffic out the DSL
>>> connection (eth0 to eth3), and the two dmzs, kiosk and wireless out the
>>> cable connection (eth1 and eth2 to eth4). Thus far as I have been unable
>>> to get this to work.
>>>
>>> For the sake of the discussion, the internal network is 10.1.1.0/24, the
>>> kiosk is 172.16.1.0/24 and the dmz/wireless is 192.168.1.0/24. The dsl
>>> line is 1.2.3.4 and the cable line is 9.8.7.6.
>>>
>>> I added the following to rt_tables:
>>>
>>> 1   internal
>>> 2   kiosk
>>> 3   dmz
>>>
>>> then created a script
>>>
>>> ip rule add from 10.1.1.0/24 table internal
>>> ip route add default via 1.2.3.4 dev eth3 table internal
>>>
>>> ip rule add from 172.16.1.0/24 table kiosk
>>> ip route add default via 9.8.7.6 dev eth4 table kiosk
>>>
>>> ip rule add from 192.168.1.0/24 table dmz
>>> ip route add default via 9.8.7.6 dev eth4 table dmz
>>>
>>> When I run this script, it does not do what I expect, especially after
>>> running the firewall rules atop it. I thought I had it nailed, but it
>>> wasn't working as expected, and I really couldn't test very well.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping some kind soul on this list might have a few minutes for an
>>> email exchange to help me get this sorted out. If so, please email me
>>> off-list. I'm sure its probably something that I overlooked, but I'm at
>>> a loss as to what.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --b
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Hardware not detected

2006-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:45:08 +0700
redboyid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have PC with spec:
> o Motherboard: DFI NF4X Infivity
> o Processor: Athlon 64 2800 Tray Socket 754 64bit
> o VGA Card: Pixelview 6200TC 128Mb up to 256Mb Tv Out,Dvi,Pci Express

#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Would be nice to specify the chipset...

> o SoundCard: Onboard Realtek AC97 

#alsaconf

> o Printer: Canon iP1000
> 
> This PC,  I install Debian Sarge 3.0 with option linux26.
> Vga, soundcard, and printer not detected. How to install
> that hardarware?
> 
> Plz, step by step.
> 
> Thanks in advance
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Re: Installing Debian from a DOS partition

2006-02-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:45:52AM +0100, M. Maas wrote:
> Hello List,
> 
> I recently got my hands on a Toshiba Libretto 110CT. Which is a very
> small laptop, with no cd player, just a pcmcia floppy disk that only
> works under DOS, because the Linux kernel does not have the drivers for it.
> 
> I've finally been able to upload files to and from the DOS partition
> using a parallel cable connection.
> 
> I can also boot to DOS using either the hard drive or a boot floppy.
> 
> But how can I start installing Debian (total hard drive = 4Gb, the Dos
> Partition = 1Gb) starting from DOS?
> 
> I've read [http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/index.html.en] but
> it does not help me much in getting drivers for PCMCIA network cards, or
> even starting up debian.
> 
> Can someone point me in the right direction?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
Hi Mark,
I have a Toshiba Libretto 100CT with Sarge. Although I did not install
it with Sarge initially. I keep a small DOS partition on in for
compaitbility purposes but with the advent of usb thumb drives, I need
it less. The easiest way to install it would be to remove the drive, get
a 2.5" to 3.5" ide converter (less than $10 US) and mount it in a
desktop pc. Install on that, and then put it back in the laptop. Then
you can start fiddling with X and such. If you want I can send you my
'dpkg --get-selections' as a guide.  I use it with a 802.11b wifi card
with X and Firefox. Its slow but usable for note taking, programming
practice, reading email... The only caveat is to DISABLE hibernation! I
havent got the setup right for HD > 2 GB and it trashes sectors.
Cheers,
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Re: ls defaults...

2006-02-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:10:10PM -0500, Shawn Lamson wrote:
> except that most local users will have a different alias for ls set
> in .bashrc i had the same phenomona here... my locales were set
> to en_US .. I had problem upgrading locales lately... but 
> #export LC_TIME=POSIX , or LC_ALL=POSIX, fixed the problem
> you are having (in my current xterm)... i'd say check your
> locales, mine seemed to have changed too.

Exactly, and of course not everyone uses bash, and an alias would not
help an application that exec()'d '/bin/ls' directly, expecting to be
able to parse the output.

A change to the locale setting might be an acceptible workaround, but
after installation the locale looks like:

$ locale
LANG=en_GB
LC_CTYPE="en_GB"
LC_NUMERIC="en_GB"
LC_TIME="en_GB"
LC_COLLATE="en_GB"
LC_MONETARY="en_GB"
LC_MESSAGES="en_GB"
LC_PAPER="en_GB"
LC_NAME="en_GB"
LC_ADDRESS="en_GB"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB"
LC_ALL=

Whereas on the SuSE system it looks like:
locale
LANG=en_GB
LC_CTYPE="en_GB"
LC_NUMERIC="en_GB"
LC_TIME="en_GB"
LC_COLLATE=POSIX
LC_MONETARY="en_GB"
LC_MESSAGES="en_GB"
LC_PAPER="en_GB"
LC_NAME="en_GB"
LC_ADDRESS="en_GB"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB"
LC_ALL=

So clearly a LC_TIME=POSIX is not needed on other systems, and any user
with an explicit 'LC_TIME=' in their profile may still see an unexpected
change after the switchover...

I don't know if this is an abiguity in the POSIX spec, but it certainly
seems that Debian is diverging from other systems here, which I would
certainly hope would not be done without a very good reason...

Interestingly, 'env - ls -l' shows that the default behaviour of /bin/ls
is normal, and a bit of trial and errors showed that it is
LANG=en_GB
in the environment that triggers the new behaviour on Debian (but not
on other systems). So it would appear that something strange in the
localization settings is to blame...

Regards,
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Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

2006-02-09 Thread Renato Serodio
Hello again,here's an update on the story:- the discrepancy in fps had nothing to do with the driver: it was a consequence of "AccelMethod"- there is/was a bug somewhere that caused the discrepancy between the log and glxinfo, though I couldn't understand whether the DRI was on or not..
- building a fglrx (proprietary) driver with Stanchina's sources runs into a problem with overwrites - there are some reports, but I couldn't understand where the bug was- building a fglrx driver with ATI's packager runs and installs properly, but gives me a hideous oozing green screen, which I saw earlier - it is a symptom of something wrong in the 
xorg.conf - I would point a broken fglrx driver. There are also reports of some problems with 2.6.15, which I happen to be using.I remain without hardware acceleration. There are countless reports and solutions, but they're either outdated or don't work as advertised. Or it might be simply I'm missing something. 
Would anyone lend a hand?Renato


problem compiling kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-smp

2006-02-09 Thread Ivan Paganini
Hello everybody. I am trying to install anbd on a PIII cluster, and for
that I have to compile the module that they provide. But unfortunately,
I am not being capable of compile this module agaist the
kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686-smp. make menuconfig works nicely, but when I
try to make or make modules, I have this two messages:

make
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by
`init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
make: *** [init] Error 2

or
make modules
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/msr.c', needed by
`arch/i386/kernel/msr.o'.  Stop.
make: *** [arch/i386/kernel] Error 2
++
I have made make mrproper, make oldconfig, make menuconfig and
configured everything, make clean to be sure that nothing is hanging,
but with no luck. I have copied the nbd.h and nbd.c to the right places
(include and drivers/block). So, what can be happening? Is there other
way to compile this module? When I try to compile standalone, I have
tons of error messages of missing libraries and dependencies.

Thanks in advance.

Ivan Marin
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Re: OT: Re: Firewalling: best approach?

2006-02-09 Thread Brent Clark

Bradley Alexander wrote:

I'm hoping some kind soul on this list might have a few minutes for an
email exchange to help me get this sorted out. If so, please email me
off-list. I'm sure its probably something that I overlooked, but I'm at
a loss as to what.


Have you switched off rp_filter and are you looking @ your logs, if so, what 
are you seeing.

Kind Regards
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Re: Installing Debian from a DOS partition

2006-02-09 Thread M. Maas
Hi Kev,


> it less. The easiest way to install it would be to remove the drive, get
> a 2.5" to 3.5" ide converter (less than $10 US) and mount it in a
> desktop pc. Install on that, and then put it back in the laptop. Then
> you can start fiddling with X and such. If you want I can send you my

> Cheers,
> Kev

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of a loadlin.exe kind of
story. Perhaps using that to "bootstrap" (if that is the right word for
it) the debian kernel and installation process.

Thanks for this plan "B" though!

Mark


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debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 01:11:29AM -0200, Eduardo wrote:
> Please do not CC me! Get a proper mailer instead: www.mutt.org

Ok, since someone has brought this up

Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
the signature abore refers to...

To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
to find before..

I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
need up until now...

Do I need to install a newer release to interact with this
list conveniently, or is there a command/configuration option I
just havn't stumbled across?

While on the subject, I am having a lot more trouble finding a way
to identify messages from this list using mutt (so I can separate
them out from the spam...)

Most other lists either have something inserted in the subject line
to idenify the origin, or they appear to come from the least such 
that selecting messages from 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' would
suffice...

Is there a tricky way to do this, or is this something an upgrade
to a newer mutt would supply.?

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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 12:37:31 +
Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 01:11:29AM -0200, Eduardo wrote:
> > Please do not CC me! Get a proper mailer instead: www.mutt.org
> 
> Ok, since someone has brought this up
> 
> Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
> a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
> goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
> the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
> the signature abore refers to...

This has been discussed, I think once per month (at least) :)
It has to do with Reply-To munging and is a BIG flame-bait on this list. So 
please don't start

> To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
> the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
> assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
> to find before..
> 
> I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
> reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
> need up until now...

AFAIK in mutt you have to hit L to reply-to-list (I don't use mutt)
The rest are for mutt experts...

Andrei
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Re: Installing Debian from a DOS partition

2006-02-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
I have Debian Sarge running pretty well on a 110CT, and it works
fine if you stick to traditional Unix tools and avoid really bloated
and CPU intensive things like KDE/GNOME which rely on fast processors
and vast amounts of memory... (although they do run if you are patient).

In fact even the 66Mhz 486 desktop (with 32MB ram) I am using at the
moment is perfectly fine with traditional tools (fvwm, xterm, mutt etc).
My 230MHz/64MB Libretto is the 'fast' machine ;)

X, PCMCIA LAN and audio are all working, but you might find it struggles
a bit if you want to play 44.1Khz stereo MP3's or play movies.

I did my first Linux install onto the Libretto without removing the hard
drive by using a PLIP (parallel port) based network, which at the time
was the only option that did not require reading a second boot floppy.
It was Red Hat 5.2 if I remember correctly. Not sure if Debian
supports that, because I bootstrapped the Debian install from an
existing SuSE Linux partition (which in turn was bootstrapped from
the Red Hat).

Hibernation is not a problem if you reserve 64MB at the right place
on the disk. I wrote a program to determine where things were being
written. It is supposed to be at the end of the disk, but the BIOS
can't see more than 4GB so if you have more than that, you need to
leave a dummy partition at the 4GB boundry.

As you are still using the original 4GB drive, then make sure you do
your partitioning on the Libretto itself (ie don't move the drive to
a desktop and partition it) and the space for hibernation will be
reserved at the end of the disk automatically (the BIOS lies about
the size to do it..).

I am currently using a 20GB drive, and the  partition map looks like this:

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   1 195 15663066  FAT16
/dev/hda2 196 390 1566337+  9f  BSD/OS
/dev/hda3 391 584 1558305   83  Linux
/dev/hda4   * 5852432148440605  Extended
/dev/hda5 585 648  514048+   6  FAT16
/dev/hda6   * 649 714  530113+  83  Linux
/dev/hda7 715 780  530113+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda8 7811018 1911703+  83  Linux
/dev/hda910191028   80293+  83  Linux
/dev/hda10   10292048 8193118+  83  Linux
/dev/hda11   20492179 1052226   83  Linux
/dev/hda12   21802432 2032191   83  Linux

The hda9 partition is where hibernation goes...

The MBR contains the BSD/OS 'bootany' bootloader, and hda4
contains GRUB. The Debian root is hda6.

I am planning to upgrade to a 100GB drive soon, so I might
experiment with an install from scratch then.

It is worth getting a 2.5" to 3.5" ide converter at some point.
I use it to clone disks with dd for backups, because it lets
me backup all of the various operating systems the same way,
and if a drive fails I can just plug in the backup with no
complex re-installs, and I know everything is identical to
the original at the time I took the snapshot..

Regards,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:27:48AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > 
> > I recently got my hands on a Toshiba Libretto 110CT. Which is a very
> > small laptop, with no cd player, just a pcmcia floppy disk that only
> > works under DOS, because the Linux kernel does not have the drivers for it.
> > 
> > I've finally been able to upload files to and from the DOS partition
> > using a parallel cable connection.
> > 
> > I can also boot to DOS using either the hard drive or a boot floppy.
> > 
> > But how can I start installing Debian (total hard drive = 4Gb, the Dos
> > Partition = 1Gb) starting from DOS?
> > 
> > I've read [http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/index.html.en] but
> > it does not help me much in getting drivers for PCMCIA network cards, or
> > even starting up debian.
> > 
> > Can someone point me in the right direction?
> > 
> Hi Mark,
> I have a Toshiba Libretto 100CT with Sarge. Although I did not install
> it with Sarge initially. I keep a small DOS partition on in for
> compaitbility purposes but with the advent of usb thumb drives, I need
> it less. The easiest way to install it would be to remove the drive, get
> a 2.5" to 3.5" ide converter (less than $10 US) and mount it in a
> desktop pc. Install on that, and then put it back in the laptop. Then
> you can start fiddling with X and such. If you want I can send you my
> 'dpkg --get-selections' as a guide.  I use it with a 802.11b wifi card
> with X and Firefox. Its slow but usable for note taking, programming
> practice, reading email... The only caveat is to DISABLE hibernation! I
> havent got the setup right for HD > 2 GB and it trashes sectors.
> Cheers,
> Kev
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Re: Installing Debian from a DOS partition

2006-02-09 Thread Hodgins Family

Good morning!


Hello List,


I recently got my hands on a Toshiba Libretto 110CT. Which is a very
small laptop, with no cd player, just a pcmcia floppy disk that only
works under DOS, because the Linux kernel does not have the drivers for it.

I've finally been able to upload files to and from the DOS partition
using a parallel cable connection.

I can also boot to DOS using either the hard drive or a boot floppy.

But how can I start installing Debian (total hard drive = 4Gb, the Dos
Partition = 1Gb) starting from DOS?


Here's an extremely inelegant way:

1) install Woody base using floppies

Get those here: 
http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/ch-appendix.en.html#s-obtain

(Go to the section called 11.2.3.4.1 Base System Images:)
Various driver disk images are in sections above this one

2) apt-get distupgrade to Sarge off the web

Would this strategy work for you?

Rob


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LVM question

2006-02-09 Thread Gabe Granger
I've just installed linux on a new machine and thought I'd give RAID  
+ LVM a go :) I've now discovered that I've created them the wrong  
sizes.  I now need to shrink one and extend the other.


I want to shrink LV /dev/onboard-sata/static by 20GB then extend LV / 
dev/onboard-sata/home by 20Gb.  I'm using reiserfs and not sure how I  
should correctly resize these volumes.  what is right way to do this?


Correct LV's

  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/onboard-sata/root
  VG Nameonboard-sata
  LV UUIDYr6XKl-1S1E-3xDC-Mjhe-zn8e-oRjN-W1YsAr
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 2
  LV Size10.00 GB
  Current LE 2560
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors 0
  Block device   253:0

  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/onboard-sata/home
  VG Nameonboard-sata
  LV UUIDuGtrKl-3CjK-oy5o-QSJv-y9eM-oo04-eFHT1y
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 2
  LV Size25.00 GB
  Current LE 6400
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors 0
  Block device   253:1

  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/onboard-sata/static
  VG Nameonboard-sata
  LV UUID0tIpHs-xFVQ-ajVH-wstP-ui5H-XM5R-YQrso8
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 2
  LV Size113.02 GB
  Current LE 28933
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors 0
  Block device   253:2

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Re: Backport Questions

2006-02-09 Thread Steve Block

On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 09:01:23PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
Having seen a number of questions lately responded to by directing the 
OP to backports, I decided to look into it, myself.  I added backports 
to my sources.list, did an update and dist-upgrade.  I said 'no' to the 
actual update so that I could look it over before committing myself to 
it.  From what I can see, I will probably just remove backports from my 
sources.list.


From apt-get -u dist-upgrade:

94 upgraded, 59 newly installed, 8 to remove and 2 not upgraded

The packages to be deleted are:

mysql-client-4.1 mysql-common-4.1 mysql-server-4.1 openoffice.org-bin 
openoffice.org-debian-files openoffice.org-debian-menus 
openoffice.org-help-en openoffice.org-l10n-en


Now, I don't care about deleted packages as long as the equivalent is 
being brought in with other packages, however, I only see 2 mysql 
packages being installed:


mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common

neither of which provides mysql-server.

Also, the only openoffice files being added are:

openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-java-common 
openoffice.org-l10n-en-us


Of these files:

oo.o-common replaces oo.o-debian-files
oo.o-core replace oo.o-bin
oo.o-l10n-en-us replaces oo.o-l10n-en
oo.o-common-java is new

While the help for 1.1.3 is removed, no help is installed for 2.0

Nothing replaces, or conflicts with openoffice.org-debian-files (that I 
can see), yet it is being removed.  I'm not surprised that it is not 
mentioned (in apt-cache show) for any of the packages to be installed, 
since it was from the package that I dl'd directly from 
www.openoffice.org that I used to install v 2.0 previously.  IOW it is 
not from a Debian package, at all.


So, as near as I can tell, doing this dist-upgrade whould leave me 
without a mysql server, will remove my help for oo.o 1.1 while not 
providing any for oo.o 2.0 and will break the version 2.0 of oo.o that I 
currently have installed.


Is this correct, or am I missing something here?


The idea of the backports is not that you use them as a regular package 
repository for keeping your system up to date, but that you bring in 
certain packages that you know you want that aren't in stable. Say you 
are working on a web server and the new content system needs php5. You 
can use the backports packages to migrate (carefully) to php5. I would 
not recommend using it as a generic upgrade system.


The mysql issues you saw were because backports provides mysql-common in 
the 5.0 range, which replaces the 4.1. This requires removing all the 
4.1 mysql packages since they depend on that, but won't cause the 5.0 
mysql packages to automatically be installed.


My recommendation is to keep backports in your sources.list file, but 
add the following to /etc/apt/preferences:


Package: *
Pin: release a=sarge-backports
Pin-Priority: 200

This will keep all the packages in the backports repository at a lower 
priority (200) than the main sarge repositories (500). After that you 
can carefully install whichever backported packages you want to use. 
Sometimes that may involve manually tracking down issues. For example 
to upgrade mysql to 5.0 you now need to override the package priority on 
mysql-common to install the 5.0 version or the other mysql 5 packages 
will be broken. Using aptitude in curses mode makes this pretty easy.


Once again I would not recommend blinding pullingin packages from 
backports, and certainly not trying to dist-upgrade from it.


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Re: WordPerfect 8.0 (Installation)

2006-02-09 Thread Ken Heard
Inspired by the comments and suggestions made by several people on the 
list, and by Rick Moen's article "WordPerfect on Linux FAQ" 
(http://linuxmafia.com/wpfaq/), I was able to install the version of WP8 
 I had inquired in 2000.  Essentially what I did was to use the Debian 
equivs package to create a virtual xlib6g package which doesn't install 
anything.  Its only purpose is to convince the WP8 version I have 
(8.0-78) that xlib6g is installed. All the files formerly installed by 
the xlib6g package are now installed by xlibs and its dependencies.


My new vitrual package had to have a version number higher than xlib6g 
version 4.0, which was the one replaced by the xlibs package, so that 
aptitude would not remove xlibs and all 234 packages which depend on it. 
 I made my virtual xlibs6g version 5.0.0KH1


Rick Moen's article included four registration keys for WP8, one of 
which unlocked the version I had.


Installation however is only half the battle.  There are significant 
changes to the DOS and Windows versions of WordPerfect I am used to; and 
so far I have not had the time to master WP8 for Linux.


Since installation I was able to acquire another version of WP8.0 for 
Linux, making four now that I know about.  This version has features not 
available on the one I installed.  I have not yet had time to examine 
this version.


In view of all the foregoing, I would like to write an article and post 
it somewhere by way of follow-up to articles by Rick Moen and Patrick 
Wiseman (http://ul451.gsu.edu/~pwiseman/WP8_and_Debian_GNU_Linux.html). 
 Essentially it should describe how to install on Sarge the various 
versions of the Linux WP8.0.


It will be a while however before I can resume work on this project, as 
 I need to do more experimentation.  In the meantime my spouse is 
forcing me to take a 50 day holiday in Southeast Asia, starting Monday next.

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Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

2006-02-09 Thread Jacob S
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:40:24 +0100
Ivan Glushkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jacob S wrote:
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> > On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:30:44 +0100
> > Renato Serodio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Hello all,
> >>
> >>my 3D plots were rather slow, and I decided to check:
> >>
> >>$> glxinfo
> >>direct rendering: No
> >>
> >>Well, I dug and dug, and here's what I got:
> >>
> >>For a functional Hardware Acceleration with Radeon 9200/9000:
> >>- agp, intel-apg (or other), drm and radeon drivers
> >>- glx, dri and radeon modules loaded from Radeon
> >>
> >>But somehow it's not working. Then I came across a post mentioning
> >>hardware acceleration had been dropped in favour of nice fonts (??).
> >>
> >>I'd like to get my graphics back on hardware, but can't begin to
> >>understand how. Does anyone have a clue that could help me?
> > 
> > 
> > I'm using an ATI Radeon 9200SE here and glxinfo shows:
> > direct rendering: Yes
> > 
> > I'm running the latest Debian Sid. For a long time I couldn't get
> > more than about 14fps in ppracer, but I see I'm now getting ~77fps.
> > (It used to be about 110fps in Xfree86, but it looks really good
> > and has more detail with the 77fps now, so I can't complain.)
> >  
> 
> A side question: How do you see the fps value in ppracer? And why you 
> are using a game for a quantitative measurement of your graphics 
> performance? I use for the same porpouses glxgears & fgl_glxgears 
> (coming with thw fglrx driver)

In ppracer, go to Configuration -> Graphics -> Display FPS. 

I mentioned ppracer as a bit of a sidenote, since not all applications
in Sid could handle Xorg's dri at first. Up until just recently,
glxgears/glxinfo would show I had dri enabled in Xorg, but applications
like ppracer would only show about 20fps (and cpu usage would go
through the roof). 

If you prefer glxgears stats, though... I'm currently getting ~1400fps. 

HTH,
Jacob
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Re: OpenOffice 2.0 Sarge or Etch

2006-02-09 Thread Ralph Katz
On 02/08/2006, L.V.Gandhi wrote:

> My help file was removed. nothing is available for 2 in backports.

Install the help file for 2.0 from unstable; it has no dependency
problems in sarge.  Use dpkg -i or, as I do, keep a mixed sarge/sid
system and manage with apt preferences (man apt_preferences).

Here's what I have installed and working nicely on my sarge systems:
> ~$ dpkg -l '*openoffice*' |grep ii
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-1bpo3OpenOffice.org office suite - database
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-1bpo3OpenOffice.org office suite - spreadsheet
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-1bpo3OpenOffice.org office suite architecture ind
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-1bpo3OpenOffice.org office suite architecture dep
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-1bpo3OpenOffice.org office suite - drawing
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-3English_american help for OpenOffice.org
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-1bpo3OpenOffice.org office suite - presentation
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-1bpo3OpenOffice.org office suite Java support arc
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-1bpo3English_american language package for OpenOf
> ii  openoffice.org 2.0.0-1bpo3OpenOffice.org office suite - word processor

I've had good luck with the bpo (backports.org) packages.

Regards,
Ralph


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Re: Technical Cyber Security Alert TA06-038A on Mozilla products

2006-02-09 Thread Ralph Katz
On 02/08/2006 07:40 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The following appeared yesterday on vulnerabilities in Mozilla products:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> National Cyber Alert System
> 
>  Technical Cyber Security Alert TA06-038A
> 
> 
> Multiple Vulnerabilities in Mozilla Products
> 
>Original release date: February 7, 2006
>Last revised: --
>Source: US-CERT
> 
> 
> Systems Affected
> 
>Mozilla software, including the following, is affected:
>  * Mozilla web browser, email and newsgroup client
>  * Mozilla SeaMonkey
>  * Firefox web browser
>  * Thunderbird email client
> 
> 
> Overview
> 
>Several vulnerabilities exist in the Mozilla web browser and derived
>products, the most serious of which could allow a remote attacker to
>execute arbitrary code on an affected system.

[...]

>  
> 
>The most recent version of this document can be found at:
> 
>  
>  


Of course firefox 1.5.0.1 is available in sid and at backports.org for
sarge.  I'm using the backports.org version for sarge.

Regards,
Ralph


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Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

2006-02-09 Thread Jacob S
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:53:47 +0100
Renato Serodio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh, I forgot about the xorg.conf file..
> 
> # xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
> #
> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool,
> 
> Section "Module"
>   Load"GLcore"
>   Load"bitmap"
>   Load"dbe"
>   Load"ddc"
>   Load"glx"
>   Load"dri"
> # Load"extmod"
>   Load"freetype"
>   Load"int10"
>   Load"record"
>   Load"type1"
>   Load"v4l"
>   Load"vbe"
>   SubSection  "extmod"
>   Option "omit xfree86-dga"
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

> 
> Section "Device"
>   Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R250 Lf
> [FireGL 9000]" Driver "radeon"
>   BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
> 
>   Option  "UseInternalAGPART" "yes"
>   Option  "RenderAccel" "true"
>   Option  "AccelMethod" "EXA"
> EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]"
Driver  "radeon"
# Driver"ati"
# ChipId0x4967 - might be needed for dual-head
Option  "EnablePageFlip" "on"
EndSection

> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
>   Option  "DPMS"
>   HorizSync   30-90
>   VertRefresh 50-60
> EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
HorizSync   31.0-60.0
VertRefresh 56.2-75.0
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection
 
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier  "Default Screen"
>   Device  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R250 Lf
> [FireGL 9000]" Monitor"Generic Monitor"
>   DefaultDepth24
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth   24
>   Modes   "1680x1050"
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth16
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection
 
> Section "ServerLayout"
>   Identifier  "Default Layout"
>   Screen  "Default Screen"
>   InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
>   InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
>   InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
> EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
# InputDevice   "Generic Mouse"
EndSection
 
> Section "DRI"
>   Mode0666
> EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode0666
EndSection

It looks like our xorg.conf files are pretty close. What happens if you
comment out the BusID and Option lines in your video card "Device"
section? After restarting X, try a glxinfo/glxgears and let us know
what they say. Which Intel chipset is on your motherboard?

Also, I wouldn't bother installing/compiling the ATI drivers. From what
I hear, the drivers in the Linux kernel are a lot better.

HTH,
Jacob
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Magnus Therning
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 12:37:31 +
>Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[..]
>> To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
>> the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
>> assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
>> to find before..
>> 
>> I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
>> reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
>> need up until now...
>
>AFAIK in mutt you have to hit L to reply-to-list (I don't use mutt) The
>rest are for mutt experts...

Yes, 'L' is the default key bound to reply-to-list. You may need to
modify the variable 'lists' as well. It's all well documented in the
muttrc manpage.

Mutt-ng (and possibly newer versions of mutt) can often work out if a
mail is from a list or not (using the mail headers I guess). Then you
don't need to worry about setting 'lists' except if you are on lists
that don't use appropriate headers. (Mutt-ng is available from Debian's
experimental repo.)

/M

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Re: gpg key error in unstable

2006-02-09 Thread L.V.Gandhi
I have sarge system. I use other repositories like
http://ftp.nerim.net, http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org,
http://www.backports.org. I upgraded apt to 0.6.43. it needs gpg keys
for all. I went to nerim and saw merillat key. I did
lvgdell600m:~# gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | apt-key add -
gpg: directory `/root/.gnupg' created
gpg: new configuration file `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
gpg: WARNING: options in `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active
during this run
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
even then I got warning during apt-get update. then I tried
lvgdell600m:~# gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907
gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net
gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
gpg: key 1F41B907: public key "Christian Marillat
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1
even now I got warning during apt-get update
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Re: Installing Debian from a DOS partition SOLVED

2006-02-09 Thread M. Maas

> 
> Here's an extremely inelegant way:
> 
> 1) install Woody base using floppies
> 
> Get those here:
> http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/ch-appendix.en.html#s-obtain
> (Go to the section called 11.2.3.4.1 Base System Images:)
> Various driver disk images are in sections above this one
> 
> 2) apt-get distupgrade to Sarge off the web
> 
> Would this strategy work for you?
> 
> Rob
> 

Inelegant yes, but very effective! The link pointed to some other means
of booting.

Namely:
http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-install-from-dos

So these two links together solve my problem!

Thanks!

Mark


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Re: ntp strangeness

2006-02-09 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:18:38AM -0500, Ken Wahl wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:57:11AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Sounds like your mobo is messed up.  My old mobo (a Shuttle SK41G)
> > drifted ~0.05 every 3 hours.  My new board (an Abit KV-81), drifts
> > more than 1/2 a second every 3 hours.
> 
> I had considered that at first but my gut still tells me that's not the
> case. It was keeping perfect time with NTP until a big dist-upgrade and
> a reboot. The board is 15 months old - an Abit AN7.
> 
> > Also, have you checked chrony?  It is an independent implementation
> > of the ntp protocol.
> 
> I've heard of it but not tried it. I did try the openntp package before
> NTP but tossed it for reasons I can't remember. I'm holding out to see
> if a fix for bug  #342887 corrects things or not. The original bugreport
> sounds exactly like the same symptoms I've been having.

I believe chrony not only checks the time with time servers, it also 
compensates in some way for hardware clock drift.
I use it on my boxes.  It doesn't seem to talk through IP-masquerading.
So I have chrony running on my IP-masquerading box and have the others 
talk to that one.

I no longer have any problems with clock drift.

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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:37:31PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> 
> Most other lists either have something inserted in the subject line
> to idenify the origin, or they appear to come from the least such 
> that selecting messages from 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' would
> suffice...
Hi Digby,

in your muttrc use 'subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
and reply to messages by using 'L' for list reply
for mail sorting check for the 'List-Id' mail header
and match it for ''
This could be done with various mail tools like procmail.
Cheers,
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Re: localhost -- MARK -- ????????

2006-02-09 Thread cga

Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]

Not Sigh.  The question as I see it, must be 'how do we adjust this hey 
I'm bored interval' to something a little bit less distracting, like 
maybe once a day at midnight or some such sillyness?  I'd much druther 
have real data in MY logs thank you. :)


 


man syslogd

-m interval
 The  syslogd  logs  a  mark  timestamp  regularly.   The  
default  interval between two -- MARK -- lines is 20 minutes.  This can 
be changed with this option.  Setting the interval to zero turns it off

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Re: g++ problem - Thanks

2006-02-09 Thread Thomas H. George
Thanks - I was just out of date.  It works now.

Tom


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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
Hi

Thanks for your message..

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > 
> > Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
> > a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
> > goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
> > the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
> > the signature abore refers to...
> 
> This has been discussed, I think once per month (at least) :)
> It has to do with Reply-To munging and is a BIG flame-bait on
> this list. So please don't start

Looks like I didn't wait long enough then - I've only been
subscribed since Jan 25th..

Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/

That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
asked over and over..

Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 

I did browse the archive, but certainly not exhaustively, and
didn't spot anything relevent.

I also checked the welcome messgage sent after subscribing, but
didn't see any mention of FAQs or archive searches to consult
before posting..

> > To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
> > the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
> > assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
> > to find before..
> > 
> > I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
> > reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
> > need up until now...
> 
> AFAIK in mutt you have to hit L to reply-to-list (I don't use mutt)
> The rest are for mutt experts...

It seems you are right, in as much as there is an L command that appears
to be intended to deal with lists, but on your message it just gives me

No mailing lists found!

> P.S. Reply-ing to your mail (in Sylpheed) put your address in CC.
> It usually does not ...

There is nothing incorrect in my headers as far as I know, but I do
use a 'Reply-to:' to make sure that mail goes to my mailbox rather
than just back to wherever I happened to originate a message from...

Perhaps that causes your MUA to behave differently for some reason?

Regards,
DigbyT
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread cga

Digby Tarvin wrote:


On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 01:11:29AM -0200, Eduardo wrote:
 


Please do not CC me! Get a proper mailer instead: www.mutt.org
   



Ok, since someone has brought this up

Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
the signature abore refers to...

To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
to find before..

I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
need up until now...

Do I need to install a newer release to interact with this
list conveniently, or is there a command/configuration option I
just havn't stumbled across?

While on the subject, I am having a lot more trouble finding a way
to identify messages from this list using mutt (so I can separate
them out from the spam...)

Most other lists either have something inserted in the subject line
to idenify the origin, or they appear to come from the least such 
that selecting messages from 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' would

suffice...

Is there a tricky way to do this, or is this something an upgrade
to a newer mutt would supply.?

Regards,
DigbyT
 

Just subscribed and may have missed some messages.. so I hope this is 
not redundant.


Check this out for an argumentation against:

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html


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Re: synaptic will not display after upgrade

2006-02-09 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:08:01 -0600
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> > I'm running debain sarge on my laptop. After I got out of hispital, I 
> > ran upgrate/upgrade, but did not pay any attention to what was being 
> > upgraded.
> > 
> > Now when I try to run "sudo synaptic:, I keep getting this error;
> > 
> > sudo synaptic
> > 
> > (synaptic:22313): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
> > 
> > I've even tried ssh'ing into this laptop, yet I get this same error 
> > message.
> > 
> 
> It's because in Sarge sudo was updated to version 1.6.8p7-1.3 and that 
> put restrictions on environment variables.
> 
> You now have to add into your sudoers:
> 
> Defaults env_reset, env_keep+="DISPLAY"
> 
> and then sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic will work again.
> 
> H
> 

Thank you very much. With the above added, it now functions again. :-)

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http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

2006-02-09 Thread L.V.Gandhi
I am using sarge with apt from backports. It needs gpg keys. For
http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/ I did
lvgdell600m:~# GET
http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg | gpg
--import
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: Total number processed: 0
I d/l Release.gpg and then did

lvgdell600m:~# cat /home/lvgandhi/Release.gpg  | gpg --import
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: Total number processed: 0

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gpg key for backports

2006-02-09 Thread L.V.Gandhi
How to get and sign gpg keys for http://www.backports.org

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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Edward Shornock
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:27:22PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
> 
> That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
> asked over and over..
> 
> Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 

Ironically, it's linked on that URL you pasted.  You can search the
archives at http://lists.debian.org/search.html and/or
http://lists.debian.org/google.html


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Re: How to disable certain usb device discovery

2006-02-09 Thread John W. M. Stevens
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:59:48PM +0800, Kai Cui wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Our server is running latest debian (3.1r1). I'd like to know how to config
> the environment to prevent the kernel from auto discovering and making
> available any hard drive or cdrom attached via usb. By the way, the keyboard
> is of usb kind too.

Well, the easiest way would be to remove the USB mass storage driver.

However, this isn't strictly necessary because if you turn off automounting,
and don't put any user options into your fstab, regular users won't
be able to use USB devices anyway (if you don't slap a user option
on a device in fstab, only root can mount it).

For safeties sake, don't use udev, or if you do, make sure it creates
USB mass storage device special files with root.root ownership, and
0600 permissions.

This allows root to still use USB mass storage for system administration,
purposes and is just as safe as removing the driver (since, after all,
root can always reinstall the driver, being root), while still retaining
useful functionality.

Thanks,
John S.


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Re: gpg key for backports

2006-02-09 Thread Edward Shornock
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:21:16PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> How to get and sign gpg keys for http://www.backports.org

If you need the backports key, try

gpg --recv-keys 16BA136C
gpg --export |apt-key add -

Found at
http://lists.backports.org/lurker/message/20051219.231854.feae4c8a.en.html


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Re: Should I Abandon Mutt and Exim4?

2006-02-09 Thread Thomas H. George
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:53:35AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> 
> >On 2006-01-13 17:04:23 +0100, Joachim Fahnenmüller wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>I also find exim difficult to configure.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Under Debian, there's almost nothing to do! Just answer a few questions.
> > 
> >
> That's great if you really understand the questions!
> 
> Paul Scott
> 
Actually it is not always a matter of answering a few questions.  In my
case it was necessary to edit the file exim.conf.template as
password.client did not work.  I have the instructions to do this in a
file but I have forgotten the vim command to attach it to this message.
I'll re-post it if anyone needs it.

Tom George
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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

2006-02-09 Thread Edward Shornock
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:01:38PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> I am using sarge with apt from backports. It needs gpg keys. For
> http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/ I did
> lvgdell600m:~# GET
> http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg | gpg
> --import
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> gpg: Total number processed: 0
> I d/l Release.gpg and then did

> lvgdell600m:~# cat /home/lvgandhi/Release.gpg  | gpg --import
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> gpg: Total number processed: 0

try:

gpg --recv-keys 2D230C5F
gpg --export 2D230C5F |apt-key add -

if you want this key:
pub   1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07]
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:27:22PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Thanks for your message..
> 
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > 
> > > Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
> > > a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
> > > goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
> > > the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
> > > the signature abore refers to...
> > 
> > This has been discussed, I think once per month (at least) :)
> > It has to do with Reply-To munging and is a BIG flame-bait on
> > this list. So please don't start
> 
> Looks like I didn't wait long enough then - I've only been
> subscribed since Jan 25th..
> 
> Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
> 
> That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
> asked over and over..
> 
> Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 
> 
> I did browse the archive, but certainly not exhaustively, and
> didn't spot anything relevent.
> 
> I also checked the welcome messgage sent after subscribing, but
> didn't see any mention of FAQs or archive searches to consult
> before posting..
> 
> > > To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
> > > the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
> > > assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
> > > to find before..
> > > 
> > > I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
> > > reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
> > > need up until now...
> > 
> > AFAIK in mutt you have to hit L to reply-to-list (I don't use mutt)
> > The rest are for mutt experts...
> 
> It seems you are right, in as much as there is an L command that appears
> to be intended to deal with lists, but on your message it just gives me
> 
>   No mailing lists found!

You may need to configure the mailing lists in your .muttrc file.
I used to have this done, but the mutt I have now doesn't seem to 
require it.

Here's the entire contents of the .muttrc file I used back when I needed 
it. (I found it on a backup -- always keep backups)

subscribe debian-user
subscribe fom.cs.nyu.edu
subscribe monotone-devel
subscribe smarteiffel.loria.fr
subscribe m3devel
subscribe tunes.tunes.org
subscribe plt-scheme.list.cs.brown.edu
subscribe stratego.cs.uu.nl
subscribe debian-testing.lists.debian.org

Maybe this helps?  There seems to be some way of abbreviating list names 
that I don't fully understand yet -- and probably never will, now that I 
don't seem to need it.

-- hendrik

> There is nothing incorrect in my headers as far as I know, but I do
> use a 'Reply-to:' to make sure that mail goes to my mailbox rather
> than just back to wherever I happened to originate a message from...

And that's what other mailing lists fuck up -- they mung the reply-to 
header to point to themselves, with the result that it may no longer be 
possible to reply personally to the original poster.

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Re: LVM question

2006-02-09 Thread Gabe Granger
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, i did the followingresize_reiserfs -s-14G /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-static Which finished saying "resize_reiserfs: Resizing finished successfully."But when I then tried to resize the LV using lvreduce -L -14G /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-staticI get the following errorVolume group mapper doesn't existWhat have I done wrong?On 9 Feb 2006, at 16:08, M. Maas wrote:Hi Gabe,Gabe Granger wrote: I've just installed linux on a new machine and thought I'd give RAID +LVM a go :) I've now discovered that I've created them the wrong sizes. I now need to shrink one and extend the other.I want to shrink LV /dev/onboard-sata/static by 20GB then extend LV/dev/onboard-sata/home by 20Gb.  I'm using reiserfs and not sure how Ishould correctly resize these volumes.  what is right way to do this? For the reducing, go here:http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/reducelv.html(Go down a bit until you see the section for reiserfs)For the extending go here:http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html(Again, do down for Reiserfs)Later,Mark 

(Free)Radius + windows Wi-Fi client

2006-02-09 Thread Rafal Jankowski

Hello,

I use debian testing and I'd like to set Freeradius (or any other 
radius) for encrypted authentication for windows Wi-Fi clients, but when 
I set TLS, which is required by mschapv2, freeradius does not start, and 
there is in logfile:

Error: rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

Is it possible to adapt freeradius to ms windows EAP without 
recompilation? If so, I would be gratefull for config files.



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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 15:27:22 +
Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Thanks for your message..
> 
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > 
> > > Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
> > > a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
> > > goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
> > > the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
> > > the signature abore refers to...
> > 
> > This has been discussed, I think once per month (at least) :)
> > It has to do with Reply-To munging and is a BIG flame-bait on
> > this list. So please don't start
> 
> Looks like I didn't wait long enough then - I've only been
> subscribed since Jan 25th..
> 
> Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
> 
> That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
> asked over and over..

Kamaraju Kusumanchi (Raju) (I hope I didn't misspell his name) was putting 
together something like this. You can search for his posts. The thread was 
embedded in another thread about newbies ... a long thread.

> Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 

This is the official search page: http://lists.debian.org/search.html
Optionally the archive is hosted at gmane and google groops and I think a few 
other places. You can search, browse, post through their interfaces
 
[snip]
> > P.S. Reply-ing to your mail (in Sylpheed) put your address in CC.
> > It usually does not ...
> 
> There is nothing incorrect in my headers as far as I know, but I do
> use a 'Reply-to:' to make sure that mail goes to my mailbox rather
> than just back to wherever I happened to originate a message from...
> 
> Perhaps that causes your MUA to behave differently for some reason?
> 
> Regards,
> DigbyT
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> Digby R. S. Tarvin  
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> http://www.digbyt.com

That explains it. On a mailing list like this one, the Reply-To is normally 
used if you happen to post from a different address then the one subscribed (or 
you are not subscribed at all) and you want a CC to that address. BTW setting a 
Reply-To on other mailing list is useless as they are rewriting it. It's all 
explained very well in the link from cga

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squirrelmail, debian testing [Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object...]

2006-02-09 Thread Rafal Jankowski

php4 4.4.2-1
apache-ssl   1.3.34-2
squirrelmail 1.4.5-2

I use squirrelmail from debian testing and for a few months and get the 
following php error:


Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in 
/usr/share/squirrelmail/src/read_body.php on line 431


when I enter any attachment twice during one session. I have to log out 
and log in again to read attachment again.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:22:50AM -0500, Edward Shornock wrote:
> > Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
> > 
> > That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
> > asked over and over..
> > 
> > Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 
> 
> Ironically, it's linked on that URL you pasted.  You can search the
> archives at http://lists.debian.org/search.html and/or
> http://lists.debian.org/google.html

Curses - how did I miss that :-o

Thanks for pointing that out..

Regards,
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Re: (Free)Radius + windows Wi-Fi client

2006-02-09 Thread José Manuel Pérez


El 09/02/2006, a las 17:35, Rafal Jankowski escribió:


Hello,

I use debian testing and I'd like to set Freeradius (or any other  
radius) for encrypted authentication for windows Wi-Fi clients, but  
when I set TLS, which is required by mschapv2, freeradius does not  
start, and there is in logfile:
Error: rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot  
open

shared object file: No such file or directory

Is it possible to adapt freeradius to ms windows EAP without  
recompilation? If so, I would be gratefull for config files.


Hello.

I've set up something similar, but I couldn't do it with debian  
package. That package does not include rlm_eap_tls.so, so it does not  
work. Finally I've downloaded source from freeradius web site and  
I've compiled it (version 1.0.5). Now it works ok.
It is not a config problem but a compilation problem, I mean, library  
rlm_eap_tls.so is needed for TLS but it's not included (I don't know  
why) in the package.
Compiling from source is easy. Now I have it working with EAP-TLS and  
PAP with users in LDAP and clients with OS/X, Windows XP, Windows  
Mobile 2005 and Linux.





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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Ken Wahl
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:27:22PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> It seems you are right, in as much as there is an L command that appears
> to be intended to deal with lists, but on your message it just gives me
> 
>   No mailing lists found!


The section of the mutt manual dealing with mailing lists is here:

http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#lists

The relevant parts of my muttrc for dealing with mailing lists:

set followup_to
set honor_follow_up_to=yes
set ignore_list_reply_to=no
set reply_to
set reply_regexp="^(re:[ \t]*)+"
alias debian-user Debian User List 
alias debian-kde Debian KDE List 
subscribe debian-user debian-kde


The above allows me to use "L" to reply to the list.

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Re: ntp strangeness

2006-02-09 Thread John Hasler
hendrik writes:
> [Chrony} doesn't seem to talk through IP-masquerading.

It does for me (I'm the Chrony maintainer).  What is your configuration?
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
Hi - thanks for the link.

A quick survey and it does indeed seem that 'Reply-To munging' is
what is used on nearly all of the other lists I am subscribed to.

The arguments made against it in that link certainly make sense,
although the author's prefered solution seems to be the
'reply to all' option which sends to the list and the originator,
and hence seems to cause so many complaints here.

A 'reply-to-list' command does seem like a good solution, although
I don't know how universally applicable it is. 

Not all of the mailing lists seem to be adding a 'X-Mailing-List'
header into the message. Or does 'reply-to-list' use something
else?

On the 'Libretto' list, for example, the only place in the headers
other than the munged 'Reply-To' field in which the list address appears
is in the 'To' field - so I suppose it would have to be using that
field???

Regards,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:56:37AM -0500, cga wrote:
> Just subscribed and may have missed some messages.. so I hope this is 
> not redundant.
> 
> Check this out for an argumentation against:
> 
> http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
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Re: rsync and chown

2006-02-09 Thread Johannes Wiedersich

Edward Speyer wrote:

Hi!

I'm stuck trying to find a nice way to allow rsync / rdiff-backup enough
permissions to keep ownership information intact at the backup-receiving
end.

I /could/ run as root on the backup-reciever, but it'd be nice if there
was a less sledge-hammer approach to the chown problem :)

What's the generally accepted method for network backups using
rsync-like tools?


I found this link useful:

http://www.arctic.org/~dean/rdiff-backup/unattended.html

It uses rdiff-backup. It works along the lines of
- fetch the backup as ordinary user "backup"
- allow ssh-access as user root, but limit the access to exactly one 
well defined command, ie. rdiff-backup with the appropriate options.


In my case the backup runs via a cron job as root, in order to keep the 
owners. This is the least 'dangerous' sledge-hammer approach I know. If 
you are more paranoid than I, you could run your backup from a chroot.


Johannes


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Re: LVM question SOLVED

2006-02-09 Thread Gabe Granger
I managed to work out what was wrong! instead of using /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-static I should have used /dev/onboard-sata/static as soon as i made this simple change everything worked :) sorry for being such a newbieOn 9 Feb 2006, at 16:47, Gabe Granger wrote:Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, i did the followingresize_reiserfs -s-14G /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-static Which finished saying "resize_reiserfs: Resizing finished successfully."But when I then tried to resize the LV using lvreduce -L -14G /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-staticI get the following errorVolume group mapper doesn't existWhat have I done wrong?On 9 Feb 2006, at 16:08, M. Maas wrote:Hi Gabe,Gabe Granger wrote: I've just installed linux on a new machine and thought I'd give RAID +LVM a go :) I've now discovered that I've created them the wrong sizes. I now need to shrink one and extend the other.I want to shrink LV /dev/onboard-sata/static by 20GB then extend LV/dev/onboard-sata/home by 20Gb.  I'm using reiserfs and not sure how Ishould correctly resize these volumes.  what is right way to do this? For the reducing, go here:http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/reducelv.html(Go down a bit until you see the section for reiserfs)For the extending go here:http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html(Again, do down for Reiserfs)Later,Mark 

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2006-02-09 Thread hcohen14
Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?
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I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  I 
am using a DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried using 
a Matrox Millennium II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have been 
getting an xfree86 server crash saying that the "screen is not found".  I have 
also tried an older Trident video card running it in VGA mode with the same 
error.

I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out there 
who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  I would 
like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and the extent 
to which it works.

I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this system 
running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.





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Re: ntp strangeness

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Howie
Jacob S wrote:
> After I did an apt-get update/upgrade Monday I've had problem keeping
> the time set properly on my computer. I have both ntpdate and
> ntp-server installed, running a strictly Sid machine. 

Welcome to the club.  #debian suggested booting with 'noacpi nolacpi' but that
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Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?

2006-02-09 Thread hcohen14
I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  I 
am using a DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried using 
a Matrox Millennium II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have been 
getting an xfree86 server crash saying that the "screen is not found".  I have 
also tried an older Trident video card running it in VGA mode with the same 
error.

I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out there 
who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  I would 
like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and the extent 
to which it works.

I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this system 
running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.



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Re: gpg key error in unstable

2006-02-09 Thread Edward Shornock
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:30:40PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> even then I got warning during apt-get update. then I tried
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907
> gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net
> gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
> gpg: key 1F41B907: public key "Christian Marillat
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported
> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg:   imported: 1
> even now I got warning during apt-get update


Now that you have that key in your keyring, do the following:

gpg --export 1F41B907 |apt-key add -
apt-get update


The errors should stop.


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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Erik Karlin
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 05:01:35PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Hi - thanks for the link.
> 
> A quick survey and it does indeed seem that 'Reply-To munging' is
> what is used on nearly all of the other lists I am subscribed to.
> 
> The arguments made against it in that link certainly make sense,
> although the author's prefered solution seems to be the
> 'reply to all' option which sends to the list and the originator,
> and hence seems to cause so many complaints here.
> 
> A 'reply-to-list' command does seem like a good solution, although
> I don't know how universally applicable it is. 
> 
> Not all of the mailing lists seem to be adding a 'X-Mailing-List'
> header into the message. Or does 'reply-to-list' use something
> else?
> 
> On the 'Libretto' list, for example, the only place in the headers
> other than the munged 'Reply-To' field in which the list address appears
> is in the 'To' field - so I suppose it would have to be using that
> field???
> 
> Regards,
> DigbyT
> 
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:56:37AM -0500, cga wrote:
> > Just subscribed and may have missed some messages.. so I hope this is 
> > not redundant.
> > 
> > Check this out for an argumentation against:
> > 
> > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

To sort of interrupt this thread as it seems to be somewhat resolved,
does anyone know why DU is the only mailing list that mutt can correctly
identify signed messages? How and where is that configured, and how can
I check/debug that one.

Thanks


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Re: your mail

2006-02-09 Thread Steve Block

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:29:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?
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I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  I am using a 
DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried using a Matrox Millennium 
II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have been getting an xfree86 server crash 
saying that the "screen is not found".  I have also tried an older Trident 
video card running it in VGA mode with the same error.

I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out there 
who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  I would 
like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and the extent 
to which it works.

I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this system 
running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.


I can't answer your question but I can suggest that you use an 
appropriate subject in your emails so that those who just skim the list 
can see what you're asking about.


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Re: gpg key error in unstable

2006-02-09 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

L.V.Gandhi (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I have sarge system. I use other repositories like
> http://ftp.nerim.net, http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org,
> http://www.backports.org. I upgraded apt to 0.6.43. it needs gpg keys
> for all. I went to nerim and saw merillat key. I did
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | apt-key add -
> gpg: directory `/root/.gnupg' created
> [...]
> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported

> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
^^^
> even then I got warning during apt-get update. then I tried
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys
> 1F41B907 gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server
> wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
> gpg: key 1F41B907: public key "Christian Marillat
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported
> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg:   imported: 1
> even now I got warning during apt-get update
> what to do?

The first time you tried to export the key from gpg to apt, but you
didn't have the key in your gpg keyring. The second time, you imported
the key to gpg, but didn't feed it to apt.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: debugger command history

2006-02-09 Thread Joey Hess
linux china wrote:
> I use 'perl -d ' to debug my code, and use up and down arrow to view the
> debugger command that I have inputed, but in my Debian 3.1 system, the up 
> arrow
> doesn't function. I don't know why, anyone could help?

Try installing libterm-readline-gnu-perl or libterm-readline-perl-perl.

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Re: gpg key error in unstable

2006-02-09 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On 2/9/06, Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The first time you tried to export the key from gpg to apt, but you
> didn't have the key in your gpg keyring. The second time, you imported
> the key to gpg, but didn't feed it to apt.

Thanks Andreas. Clear explanation.
How to get keys for various sites?
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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

2006-02-09 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On 2/9/06, Edward Shornock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:01:38PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> > I am using sarge with apt from backports. It needs gpg keys. For
> > http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/ I did
> > lvgdell600m:~# GET
> > http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg | gpg
> > --import
> > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> > gpg: Total number processed: 0
> > I d/l Release.gpg and then did
>
> > lvgdell600m:~# cat /home/lvgandhi/Release.gpg  | gpg --import
> > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> > gpg: Total number processed: 0
>
> try:
>
> gpg --recv-keys 2D230C5F
> gpg --export 2D230C5F |apt-key add -
>
> if you want this key:
> pub   1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07]
> uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Edward. Your solution worked for nerim and backports. For this
I tried and got
lvgdell600m:~# gpg --recv-keys 2D230C5F
gpg: requesting key 2D230C5F from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
gpg: key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" 2 new signatures
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 2
lvgdell600m:~# gpg --export 2D230C5F |apt-key add -
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
OK
lvgdell600m:~# apt-get update
..
W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
not available: NO_PUBKEY F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Any solutions?
How to get these keys?

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Re: Pb with etch netinstall - laptop/pcmcia/firewire - 3Com 3574

2006-02-09 Thread cga

cga wrote:

I tried a net install with the current etch iso image and the 
installer seems to have trouble recognizing my 3com PC card (LAN + 
56K). It asks me whether I would like to do the install through the 
firewire interface, which sounds like a "last resort" attempt and is 
probably not relevant. The laptop does not even have a firewire port 
so I reply "no" and the installer proceeds to ask me if I would like 
to do the configuration manually and presents me with a list of 
modules. I select the correct 3574c module but the installer takes me 
back to the screen that informs me that it cannot not find the nic.. 
would I like to select the module manually.. etc. Only way I can get 
out of this is by hitting Escape. The installer then takes me to the 
next step (partitioning the hard drive) .. which is where I abort the 
installation.


I searched google & found a couple of laptop users who had experienced 
the same problem over the last year or so, but no resolution.


I use the default install - ie. I just hit enter at the boot prompt. 
Wondering if there's anything I need  to specify when I start the 
install to indicate that I need to enable pcmcia..?  
Incidentally I did a sarge "net install" prior to this and did not run 
into any problem.


 


Quick update and additional questions:

1. tried with the etch full-cd #1 with identical results.

2. tried the sarge netinstall and I get a message to the effect that PC 
card services start successfully. I never get to see the "no nic found" 
error message and the install proceeds automatically to the disk 
partitioning screen. At this point I went back to the main menu and I 
started an ash shell where I was able to verify that I can access the 
network - I did a wget of the debian.org home page. Everything works as 
expected both with the default install and the "linux26" install.


3. went back to the etch netinstall and after some fiddling with the 
different options relative to the network - amounted to manually loading 
the 3c574 module as requested.. backing out of the "firewire loop" and 
manually selecting the "configure network" option on the  main menu.. I 
was also able to wget the debian.org page.


So it appears that there is a minor problem (non-problem?) with the etch 
installer where PC cards are concerned. I have to assume that the 
install would be successful after this since I did not go any further so 
I have no evidence that the install would proceed normally. I do have my 
doubts concerning pcmcia and network setup, though..


So, not being familiar with debian I'm not sure if I should report this 
as a bug or check whether this has already been reported - quite likely 
since this is by no means exotic hardware.. chances are someone has run 
into this problem before me and reported it.


In any case as far as my particular hardware is concerned there appears 
to have been some regression in hardware recognition between etch and sarge.




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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

2006-02-09 Thread Edward Shornock
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:55:03PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> Thanks Edward. Your solution worked for nerim and backports. For this
> I tried and got
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --recv-keys 2D230C5F
> gpg: requesting key 2D230C5F from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
> gpg: key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" 2 new signatures
> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg: new signatures: 2
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --export 2D230C5F |apt-key add -
> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
> OK
> lvgdell600m:~# apt-get update
> ..
> W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The
> following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
> not available: NO_PUBKEY F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
> Any solutions?
> How to get these keys?


This worked for me (I just added that repository to
/etc/apt/sources.list):

Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
NO_PUBKEY F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
darkside:~# gpg --recv-keys F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
gpg: requesting key 4B2B2B9E from hkp server random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de
gpg: key 4B2B2B9E: public key "Daniel Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported
gpg: 3 marginal(s) needed, 1 complete(s) needed, classic trust model
gpg: depth: 0  valid:   1  signed:   1  trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u
gpg: depth: 1  valid:   1  signed:   0  trust: 1-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2006-03-22
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1
darkside:~# gpg --export 4B2B2B9E |apt-key add -
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
OK
darkside:~# apt-get update
[snip]
Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release.gpg
Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release
Get: 6 ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release.gpg [189B]
Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid/main Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid/main Sources
Hit ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release
Hit ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge/main Packages
Fetched 194B in 2s (78B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

2006-02-09 Thread Edward Shornock
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:55:03PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
[..]
> W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The
> following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
> not available: NO_PUBKEY F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
> Any solutions?
> How to get these keys?

As demonstrated in my earlier follow-up, this is a three step process.
1) Import the missing key with gpg --recv-keys [keyid]
2) Add the key to apt-key with "gpg --export [keyid]|apt-key add -"
3) run "apt-get update"


HTH :)


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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
Thanks Ken, hendrik and all the others that offered
suggestions.

I couldn't add the 'set honor_follow_up_to=yes' because it doesn't
seem to be recognised in my version of mutt, but the rest were
ok.

If this posting went to the right place, then it worked..

In addition to activating the 'L' command, it also seems to
add an 'L' flag to the message listings, which is nice.

My remaining grip is that the 'subscribe' command also causes the
identification of the originator of the message to be replaced by
the list name in the display:
   1183   L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  46) debian-user and mutt...
   1184 r L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  38) Re: debian-user and mutt...
   1188  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  67) Re: debian-user and mutt...
   1190  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  47) Re: debian-user and mutt...
   1193 O L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  70) Re: debian-user and mutt...

which I would rather was controlled separately because I think it was
useful to be able to see the authors when deciding which messages to
read...

But I am still reading through your link so maybe there is a solution
in there somewhere...

Thanks again,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:09:25PM -0500, Ken Wahl wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:27:22PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > It seems you are right, in as much as there is an L command that appears
> > to be intended to deal with lists, but on your message it just gives me
> > 
> > No mailing lists found!
> 
> 
> The section of the mutt manual dealing with mailing lists is here:
> 
> http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#lists
> 
> The relevant parts of my muttrc for dealing with mailing lists:
> 
> set followup_to
> set honor_follow_up_to=yes
> set ignore_list_reply_to=no
> set reply_to
> set reply_regexp="^(re:[ \t]*)+"
> alias debian-user Debian User List 
> alias debian-kde Debian KDE List 
> subscribe debian-user debian-kde
> 
> The above allows me to use "L" to reply to the list.
> 
> HTH
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Edward Shornock
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 01:07:54PM -0500, Erik Karlin wrote:
> To sort of interrupt this thread as it seems to be somewhat resolved,
> does anyone know why DU is the only mailing list that mutt can correctly
> identify signed messages? How and where is that configured, and how can
> I check/debug that one.

In my .muttrc, I have the following and it works for every mailing list:


set pgp_decode_command="gpg %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --no-verbose \
--batch --output - %f"
set pgp_verify_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - \
--verify %s %f"
set pgp_decrypt_command="gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --no-verbose \
--batch --output - %f"
set pgp_sign_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - \
--passphrase-fd 0 --armor --detach-sign \
--textmode %?a?-u %a? %f"
set pgp_clearsign_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - \
--passphrase-fd 0 --armor --textmode --clearsign %?a?-u %a? %f"
set pgp_encrypt_only_command="/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg --batch \
--quiet --no-verbose --output - --encrypt --textmode --armor \
--always-trust --encrypt-to 0x[mykeyid] -- -r %r -- %f"
set pgp_encrypt_sign_command="/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg \
--passphrase-fd 0 --batch --quiet --no-verbose --textmode \
--output - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust \
--encrypt-to 0x[mykeyid] -- -r %r -- %f"
set pgp_import_command="gpg --no-verbose --import -v %f"
set pgp_export_command="gpg --no-verbose --export --armor %r"
set pgp_verify_key_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch \
--fingerprint --check-sigs %r"
set pgp_list_pubring_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch \
--with-colons --list-keys %r"
set pgp_list_secring_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch \
--with-colons --list-secret-keys %r"
set pgp_autosign=yes
set pgp_sign_as=0x[mykeyid]
set pgp_replyencrypt=yes
set pgp_timeout=1800
set pgp_good_sign="^gpg: Good signature from"


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Re: Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?

2006-02-09 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:31:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  I 
> am using a DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried 
> using a Matrox Millennium II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have 
> been getting an xfree86 server crash saying that the "screen is not found".  
> I have also tried an older Trident video card running it in VGA mode with the 
> same error.

I would think the mga should work. Maybe it needs a BusID line in the X
config. Try asking [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Frank

> 
> I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
> Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out 
> there who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  
> I would like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and 
> the extent to which it works.
> 
> I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this 
> system running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.
> 
> 
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Ken Wahl
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:02:34PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> My remaining grip is that the 'subscribe' command also causes the
> identification of the originator of the message to be replaced by
> the list name in the display:
>1183   L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  46) debian-user and mutt...
>1184 r L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  38) Re: debian-user and mutt...
>1188  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  67) Re: debian-user and mutt...
>1190  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  47) Re: debian-user and mutt...
>1193 O L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  70) Re: debian-user and mutt...


Try adding this to your muttrc:
set hdr_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} [%2N] %-15.15F (%4c) %s"

If that is rejected then use:
set index_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} [%2N] %-15.15F (%4c) %s"

I actually think your version uses index_format but I have hdr_format in
my muttrc.

This is configurable and you can see how to customize it at:
http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3
(scroll down to index format)

You can also use folder-hooks to make it different depending on what folder
you are browsing. One of the many beauties of mutt.
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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

2006-02-09 Thread Joey Hess
Edward Shornock wrote:
> As demonstrated in my earlier follow-up, this is a three step process.
> 1) Import the missing key with gpg --recv-keys [keyid]
> 2) Add the key to apt-key with "gpg --export [keyid]|apt-key add -"
> 3) run "apt-get update"

Step one is inneceesary, just download the key and apt-key add it.

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latex letterpaper & dvipdf

2006-02-09 Thread roberto
hello

i am struggling at writing a paper and i have to respect the options
"letterpaper"
which is default in IEEEtran.cls
but when i open the pdf by acrobat it defaults to
8.26*11.69in

instead of:
8.50*11in

my header contains:

\documentclass[letterpaper]{IEEEtran}

so i do not know if it may be a problem in dvipdf conversion after
that i generate the pdf from the dvi.
do you know how to set the option "letter" in dvipdf?
man page seems to be rather short...

thank you!
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KDE: 3.3



netinst question

2006-02-09 Thread dafydd hughes

Hi folks

I'm new here, so please point me in the right direction if this  
question's answered elsewhere.


This is my first attempt at installing debian via internet - I've  
been using the Agnula distribution, but for various reasons I'm  
trying the netinst install.  Trouble is, my laptop (hp omnibook xe2,  
p2 333, 3com cardbus network card) isn't automatically bringing up  
eth0 after the base install, so the fist steps of apt configuration  
fail because it can't find the mirror.


Is there a way to interrupt the install program at this point and  
manually bring up the interface with ifup?  I tried ctl-alt-F6 and  
logged in as root.  ifup eth0 works, but I can't figure out how to  
return to the install program after that.


Again, I apologize if this is covered elsewhere - I couldn't find  
anything in the archives.


cheers
dafydd



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Re: instructions for switching to kernel 2.6 on Debian Sarge?

2006-02-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
I didn't think there was much more to it than just doing a
apt-get intall kernel-image-2.6.8

When I did my net-install I arbitrarily chose a 2.6 kernel
from which to install, and found that I had both a 2.4 and
a 2.6 kernel installed at the end of it.

I can switch between the two kernels with no more than a
reboot. So I think the most you would need to do is to
perhaps go through and make sure all of your drivers
still work (my PCMCIA for 2.4 wasn't originally installed)

Regards,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:47:00PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote:
> Where are instructions on how to upgrade to kernel 2.6 (ideally,
> specifically in Debian's Sarge release)?
> 
> The instructions I've found so far are quite sketchy.  (For example,
> although I have found instructions that tell me that my mouse is no
> longer at /dev/psaux but is now at /dev/input/mouse (or .../mouse0
> or .../mice), they don't say what all I need to do to get /dev/input
> or /dev/input/mouse to appear in the first place.)
> 
> Are there any Debian-specific instructions out there (e.g., specifying
> which packages (beside udev and its prerequisites) I need to install
> and what other changes I might need to make (e.g., mounting new special
> file systems (/sys? /dev?), dropping or changing old special filesystems
> or real directoryes (/dev?), etc))?
> 
> If not, are they any non-Debian-specific instructions that explain
> what all is needed?
> 
> (This is for a fairly basic desktop system--non-USB keyboard and
> mouse, USB only for camera and other lower-priority devices.)
> 
> Thanks,
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
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Re: latex letterpaper & dvipdf

2006-02-09 Thread Michael Marsh
On 2/9/06, roberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i am struggling at writing a paper and i have to respect the options
> "letterpaper"
> which is default in IEEEtran.cls
> but when i open the pdf by acrobat it defaults to
> 8.26*11.69in
>
> instead of:
> 8.50*11in
>
> my header contains:
>
> \documentclass[letterpaper]{IEEEtran}
>
> so i do not know if it may be a problem in dvipdf conversion after
> that i generate the pdf from the dvi.
> do you know how to set the option "letter" in dvipdf?
> man page seems to be rather short...

dvipdf calls dvips behind the scenes, so if you pass it "-t letter",
you should end up with an 8.5"x11" PDF document.

If you want to change this globally, not just for this particular
case, you can create a file "~/.dvipsrc" with the line
t tetter

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Re: ntp strangeness

2006-02-09 Thread Jacob S
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Ken Wahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've had the same problem for about 6 weeks. I'm not sure but I think
> it is bug #342887. Doesn't NTP usually use the system clock as a
> fallback?
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=342887
> 
> NTP has been pretty much useless and I've had to keep time by calling
> ntpdate hourly from cron.

Thanks for the link, it was very helpful. 

My /usr is in the / partition, so that wasn't the problem. I ended up
moving /etc/rcS.d/S18hwclockfirst.sh to /etc/rcS.d/S09hwclockfirst.sh
(right before S10checkroot.sh) as per the above bugreport. 4 hours
after rebooting, my time is still correct so it looks like it fixed it.
(No, I didn't reboot to check the clock... I was trying to boot a new
kernel with usb & scsi debugging enabled.) Now why running
S18hwclockfirst.sh, then S10checkroot.sh and finally S22hwclock.sh in
that order wouldn't fix it without a reboot is beyond me, but
fortunately somebody in the bugreport knew what they were talking about.

Thanks to everyone for the tips and suggestions.

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Re: gpg key error in unstable

2006-02-09 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On 2/9/06, Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can get official debian keys from the debian-archive-keyring
> package. Never just download keys from some gpg server just because
> someone tells you some key id, only get the keys from the project
> servers directly, or at least get the key id from there to make sure it
> is the correct key.
I have both sid and sarge on my dell 600m. In sid I could get
debian-archive-keyring. But in sarge that is not there. I installed
apt from bacports in sarge. How to get debian-archive-keyring for
sarge?
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Re: Backport Questions

2006-02-09 Thread Marc Shapiro

Steve Block wrote:


On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 09:01:23PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:

Nothing replaces, or conflicts with openoffice.org-debian-files (that 
I can see),



^^^
s/b openoffice.org-debian-menus

yet it is being removed. I'm not surprised that it is not mentioned 
(in apt-cache show) for any of the packages to be installed, since it 
was from the package that I dl'd directly from www.openoffice.org 
that I used to install v 2.0 previously. IOW it is not from a Debian 
package, at all.


So, as near as I can tell, doing this dist-upgrade whould leave me 
without a mysql server, will remove my help for oo.o 1.1 while not 
providing any for oo.o 2.0 and will break the version 2.0 of oo.o 
that I currently have installed.


Is this correct, or am I missing something here?



The idea of the backports is not that you use them as a regular 
package repository for keeping your system up to date, but that you 
bring in certain packages that you know you want that aren't in 
stable. Say you are working on a web server and the new content system 
needs php5. You can use the backports packages to migrate (carefully) 
to php5. I would not recommend using it as a generic upgrade system.


The mysql issues you saw were because backports provides mysql-common 
in the 5.0 range, which replaces the 4.1. This requires removing all 
the 4.1 mysql packages since they depend on that, but won't cause the 
5.0 mysql packages to automatically be installed.


My recommendation is to keep backports in your sources.list file, but 
add the following to /etc/apt/preferences:


Package: *
Pin: release a=sarge-backports
Pin-Priority: 200

This will keep all the packages in the backports repository at a lower 
priority (200) than the main sarge repositories (500). After that you 
can carefully install whichever backported packages you want to use. 
Sometimes that may involve manually tracking down issues. For example 
to upgrade mysql to 5.0 you now need to override the package priority 
on mysql-common to install the 5.0 version or the other mysql 5 
packages will be broken. Using aptitude in curses mode makes this 
pretty easy.



I had not, actually, intended to do a complete upgrade. I did that only 
to see what was out there so I could determine what, if anything, to use 
from backports. The main thing that I was looking for was 
openoffice.org-2.0, since I currently have that installed (seperate from 
my 1.1.3 install) from the files obtained directly from 
www.openoffice.org. Someone else has posted that the missing help 
package can be safely obtained from Sid with no dependancy problems. 
That should work. My only remaining issue with oo.o, then, is that I 
would like to keep the 2.0 version that I have installed untill I am 
sure that the new one works, but openoffice.org-debian-menus, which came 
directly from www.openoffice.org along with the rest of the 2.0 files is 
going to be removed. Why? The debian package shouldn't know anything 
about it, so I would think that it would be left alone (along with all 
the rest of the 2.0 files from www.openoffice.org). WAIT A MINUTE -- 
apt-cache search says that it IS a debian package. Did openoffice.org 
just grab it from the debian archives and provide it along with their 
package? ALSO, apt-cache show says that it is for desktop integration. 
Is that for Gnome and KDE? I am using fvwm2 and do not use an integrated 
desktop environment. Do I even need that package?


MySQL 5.0 is also of interest. Why is it that the packages that I am 
interested in appear to be the only ones that would obviously break if I 
install them? I did not really undestand what should be done to correct 
that problem. I use apt-get, not aptitude and have never dealt with 
pinning, or priorities, before. I will probably just wait until Etch 
goes stable and I will get 5.0 then, unless something comes up to really 
require that I upgrade sooner.


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Configuring pcmcia cards at boot-up

2006-02-09 Thread Udo Klein

Hi,

I'm trying to use an old Toshiba Satellite laptop as a gateway. To do 
this I use two ethernet pcmcia cards (both 3c589), one connected to the 
cable modem (external interface), one connected to a switch (internal 
interface).


What I want is (1) to have both cards permanently plugged in ("cold 
plugged") and (2) to have both interfaces configured during boot-up.


I worded out how to configure the file /etc/network/interfaces to allow 
for the two cards to be hotplugged, so I can FIRST boot up, THEN insert 
both cards into the slots, and they get automatically configured. I also 
worked out how to configure the same file to allow for the external 
interface card to be plugged in before boot-up, and to be configured 
during boot-up, but this only works if the second card is not yet 
plugged in! As soon as both cards are plugged in at boot up, the 
external interface card doesn't get configured properly, resulting in no 
connectivity.


Can somebody please tell me which files need to be configured and how?


The ethernet howto has a section discussing the configuration of two 
ethernet interfaces, but I remember having read somewhere that this only 
applies to PCI cards, not PCMCIA cards.


Specifications: Debian Sarge, kernel 2.4.27-2-386, on a Toshiba 
Satellite Pro 430CDS. The ethernet cards are both 3c589.


Thanks, Udo K.


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Pictures, music = video

2006-02-09 Thread Luis Fernando Llana Díaz
Hello,
  I want to combine some photgraphs with music to obtain a movie that I can 
record in a video CD or a DVD (I plan to play it in a ordinary DVD player). I 
am wondering is there is a software to do it easely.

Thank you
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Re: ntp strangeness

2006-02-09 Thread John Verhoeven
On Friday 10 February 2006 01:57, Chris Howie wrote:
> Jacob S wrote:
> > After I did an apt-get update/upgrade Monday I've had problem keeping
> > the time set properly on my computer. I have both ntpdate and
> > ntp-server installed, running a strictly Sid machine.
>
> Welcome to the club.  #debian suggested booting with 'noacpi nolacpi' but
> that does nothing.  =(

What about acpi=off?

Fixed my problem - AMD64 X2, Giagbyte GA-K8NS.

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Re: gpg key error in unstable

2006-02-09 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

L.V.Gandhi (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> On 2/9/06, Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> The first time you tried to export the key from gpg to apt, but you
>> didn't have the key in your gpg keyring. The second time, you
>> imported the key to gpg, but didn't feed it to apt.
> 
> Thanks Andreas. Clear explanation.
> How to get keys for various sites?

You can get official debian keys from the debian-archive-keyring
package. Never just download keys from some gpg server just because
someone tells you some key id, only get the keys from the project
servers directly, or at least get the key id from there to make sure it
is the correct key.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: netinst question

2006-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:06:43 -0500
dafydd hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi folks
> 
> I'm new here, so please point me in the right direction if this  
> question's answered elsewhere.
> 
> This is my first attempt at installing debian via internet - I've  
> been using the Agnula distribution, but for various reasons I'm  
> trying the netinst install.  Trouble is, my laptop (hp omnibook xe2,  
> p2 333, 3com cardbus network card) isn't automatically bringing up  
> eth0 after the base install, so the fist steps of apt configuration  
> fail because it can't find the mirror.
> 
> Is there a way to interrupt the install program at this point and  
> manually bring up the interface with ifup?  I tried ctl-alt-F6 and  
> logged in as root.  ifup eth0 works, but I can't figure out how to  
> return to the install program after that.
> 
> Again, I apologize if this is covered elsewhere - I couldn't find  
> anything in the archives.
> 
> cheers
> dafydd
> 
> 
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Did you try Alt-F1, Alt-F2, ..., Alt-F5 (in console mode you don't need Ctrl)?

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Re[solved]: debian-user and mutt...

2006-02-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
Thanks Ken,

Looks like another neat feature I hadn't stumbled across before..

I also found (by trial and error - havn't found it stated in the
docs yet) that by using 'lists' instead of 'subscribe' I can
get the L command to work without changing the listing format,
which is what I initially wanted..

My mutt seems to accept either version of the commands you 
suggested, which for the 'lists' version gives me: 

1156  s  02/09 [ 0] Ken Wahl(1.7K) Re: debian-user and mutt...

and for 'subscrube' gives:

1156  sL 02/09 [ 0] Ken Wahl(1.7K) Re: debian-user and mutt...

The latter seems to do everything I want...

So the bottom line seems to be that the Debian way of organizing
a list is superior, so long as you have a suitable MUA and are
sufficiently familiar with its features - or know someone else
who is ;)..

Regards,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:38:18PM -0500, Ken Wahl wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:02:34PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > My remaining grip is that the 'subscribe' command also causes the
> > identification of the originator of the message to be replaced by
> > the list name in the display:
> >1183   L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  46) debian-user and mutt...
> >1184 r L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  38) Re: debian-user and mutt...
> >1188  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  67) Re: debian-user and mutt...
> >1190  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  47) Re: debian-user and mutt...
> >1193 O L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  70) Re: debian-user and mutt...
> 
> 
> Try adding this to your muttrc:
> set hdr_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} [%2N] %-15.15F (%4c) %s"
> 
> If that is rejected then use:
> set index_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} [%2N] %-15.15F (%4c) %s"
> 
> I actually think your version uses index_format but I have hdr_format in
> my muttrc.
> 
> This is configurable and you can see how to customize it at:
> http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3
> (scroll down to index format)
> 
> You can also use folder-hooks to make it different depending on what folder
> you are browsing. One of the many beauties of mutt.
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Re: ntp strangeness

2006-02-09 Thread Chris Howie
Ken Wahl wrote:
> I've heard of it but not tried it. I did try the openntp package before
> NTP but tossed it for reasons I can't remember. I'm holding out to see
> if a fix for bug  #342887 corrects things or not. The original bugreport
> sounds exactly like the same symptoms I've been having.

Try booting the kernel with the "noapic nolapic" parameters.

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Re: Backport Questions

2006-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:27:15 -0800
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[major snip]

> ALSO, apt-cache show says that it is for desktop integration. 
> Is that for Gnome and KDE? I am using fvwm2 and do not use an integrated 
> desktop environment. Do I even need that package?

AFAIK Debian has a menu system that does not depend on the Environment/Window 
Manager. I'm using IceWM and I still get the new menu entries when I install 
something (after I restart IceWM).

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Re: instructions for switching to kernel 2.6 on Debian Sarge?

2006-02-09 Thread Daniel B.

Digby Tarvin wrote:

I didn't think there was much more to it than just doing a
apt-get intall kernel-image-2.6.8


Actually, there is (or sure seems to be).

As I mentioned, the documentation that I found did warn me that my
mouse device (/dev/psaux) would change (and therefore gpm and X might
break), but the device the documentation said the mouse would change
to (/dev/input/mouse...) doesn't exist, and the documentation didn't
say anything about what one needs to do to get it to exist (install
packages?  run a new equivalent of MAKEDEV?  mount /sys or similar?).


Daniel


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Re: instructions for switching to kernel 2.6 on Debian Sarge?

2006-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:59:23 -0500
"Daniel B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > I didn't think there was much more to it than just doing a
> > apt-get intall kernel-image-2.6.8
> 
> Actually, there is (or sure seems to be).
> 
> As I mentioned, the documentation that I found did warn me that my
> mouse device (/dev/psaux) would change (and therefore gpm and X might
> break), but the device the documentation said the mouse would change
> to (/dev/input/mouse...) doesn't exist, and the documentation didn't
> say anything about what one needs to do to get it to exist (install
> packages?  run a new equivalent of MAKEDEV?  mount /sys or similar?).

udev will take care of that. Just install the kernel (and don't uninstall the 
2.4). If something doesn't work, you can still boot with 2.4 and research. If X 
won't start, the first thing to try is 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' 
(assuming you have XFree86). 

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