Re: [OT] squidguard, dansguardian, other?? on a 486?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 07:55:41PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm searching for a good system (squid + add on) for my firewall which
> will do a reasonable job knocking out obvious problem sites for my kids
> as they use the Web.  So far I've seen mentions of squidguard and
> dansguardian, but don't know of others to consider, if there are any.
> 
> Does anyone have thoughts about either of these possibilities?  The
> only previous post I found concerning both turned out to be a
> discussion about using one in particular.
> 
> My current (Shorewall based) firewall is my original 486/66 (48 Mb ram)
> which also works well as our gateway.  I don't know what this will do
> to it, though.  Anybody have thoughts about this part?

I'm running a computer lab for a kids/teen center, and am using both
Squid and Dansguardian.  I've got Squidguard installed but not
configured, more to follow.  And I use iptables for some stuff.


Dansguardian as a basic filtering proxy *rocks*.  It's *very* good, and
has a really good true/false positive/negative trend.

If you set it up on a client-by-client basis, you can set different
filtering levels for different clients.  I've chosen *not* to do this,
instead forwarding all traffic as a transparent web proxy through
iptables (one of two things going on, more later).

The basic configuration files are both sane and highly effective.
You'll probably want to add some exceptions to both the pass and fail
lists.  In particular, I found that image seach sites
(images.google.com, and related) were a tough set to filter based on
rules alone.  Try searching "girlfriend" and you'll see what I mean.  A
lot of skin, with no words to filter content.  The "safe mode on" Google
setting turned out be a complete non-starter as it effectively let
*everything* through.  So those sites got banned.

Since then, I've had a couple of pages sneak through, mostly via
banners.  I suspect Asian pr0n might as well, though in general, foreign
language coverage is pretty darned good.  Mostly it's banner sites.  For
these, I've taken two approaches:

  - Block the major banner sites alltogether.  In particular, popups are
a major hassle.  They confuse kids, and disrupt sessions "Hey,
Karsten, I just won".  Though they provide many teachable
moments on Internet safety, advertising, and protecting personal
information.

  - For a few sites, largely minor ones, the banners get through without
leaving a trace in Dansguardian.  For these, I'll track down the IP,
find the allocation for the upstream ISP, and simply block the whole
range.  "REJECT" for outbound traffic and "DROP" for inbound.  This
keeps the kids' browsers from hanging, but ties up the remote
webserver until timeoute should it try to connect for any reason.
You will get a broken image icon for these sites.

If you want to set or bypass filters for all or part of a site, you can
do this as well.

Dansguardian also:

  - Filters by extension.  Kids can't d/l executables.  Could also block
MP3s, WMAs, OOGs, etc., if I wanted to.

  - Filters by classification.  Not just pr0n, but violence, chat, and a
number of other categories.

  - Provides specific and meaningful logging information.  What client
requested what site, whether it was passed or DENIED, and what
reasons.


The main detraction to dansguardian is that it posts a big "denied" page
up for anything that was denied.  For some banners, you just want a
transparent drop.  What I do at home is control this via DNS, declare
myself authoritative for a number of domains, send all traffic to a
virtualhost on my local webserver, and serve up a light green 1x1 PNG
for all requests (the blocked content).  Results can be seen at:

http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Images/green-is-blocked-ads.png

Squidguard gives a finer level of control, and for content which:

  1.  You don't particularly care to know that it is/isn't blocked.
  2.  It lives on a host/domain that you might want _some_ content from.

...it provides better flexibilty.

As for hardware, my local webserver is a PII-233 box, serving pretty
much just me.  DNS runs on it + a PPro 180MHz system, and Squid on a
P-200.  Spread as much as it is pretty much 'coz I got the boxes.

At work, Squid and Dansguardian both live on a PIII-400 which typically
reports a load of 0.1-0.3 under heavy gaming load from the kids ;-)

Squid itself is reporting a 40% hit rate on cache by request and ~30% by
bytes.


Summary:

  - General filtering:  dansguardian.
  - Specific trouble ISPs:  iptables.
  - Specific trouble domains:  DNS & virthost.
  - Specific sections of websites:  squidguard.


You don't need all of each (I don't have a site set up w/ any of the
above fully), but this does speak to the strengths of various methods.



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Re: Slow disk - hdparm, S.M.A.R.T, badblocks, what else?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 02:32:39PM -0700, Richard Weil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Sorry if this is beating a dead horse since you've already checked ...
> I believe there are (at least) three different "speed" 80-conductor ide
> cables -- ATA66, ATA100, and ATA133. They are not always labeled, so it
> can be hard to tell. My "slow" cable was a left over from an old
> machine and it was not labeled at all.

I'll double-check but follow on strongly suggests it's the drive.
 

BTW:

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

For clarity and to support conversational discussion style, please use
bottom-posting format:  your reply goes below the material cited.  Trim
your quotes appropriately and ensure your attributions are accurate.  

See: 

http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/email-style.html
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Re: postgresql with tcp/ip conection

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 16:59, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 18:33, cenapad wrote:
> > Does anybody  know how to configure /etc/init.d/postgresql to accept 
> > TCP/IP conections?

> The default setup for TCP/IP connections is to accept them from
> localhost only.  If you are having problems connecting from another
> machine, this is likely to be what needs changing.

I recommend using putty (on windows) or ssh to tunnel postgres
connections to the postgres box. Eg:

ssh -L 5432:localhost:5432 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

that is:

ssh -L :: ...

Then, of course, run some postgres tool (like pgadmin, psql, etc) and
connect localhost:5432 (where you start the tunnel from).

cheers
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Re: tmda (was Re: Attach filter)

[Brian Nelson]

"Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 2004-07-08, Karsten M. Self penned:
>>
>>
>> Jason Mastaler accepts criticism so graciously he's banned me from any
>> mail access to his domain.  Go figure.  That's adult, open, honest,
>> and principled.
>
> Maybe because you've repeatedly proven yourself incapable of holding up
> your end of a civilized conversation on his mailing list?  Having seen
> your behavior on that very public forum, I can only imagine what you've
> said to him in private.
>
> There's nothing wrong with changing the channel when you're sick of the
> same old garbage.  You have a right to speak; you do not have a right to
> be heard.

He really should be heard though, because no one should use tdma.  Ever.

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Re: Debian's javac vs Sun's new installation of j2sdk

[David Baron]

On Friday 09 July 2004 05:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > You should go to . Get j2se-package, convert your
> > JRE to a deb, download the matching *debian-deb for your Java version,
> > and install both the downloaded package and the converted JRE. The
> > package management will take care of the symlinks in /etc/alternatives
> > and even install symlinks to make the Java plugin work with Mozilla,
> > Netscape and Firefox. You should probably deinstall the gjc packages
> > first.
>
> Bah. You can't be serious. Why would anyone be expected to go through this
> procedure just to install Java? Why not just unpack the sun.com archive in
> /usr/local/ and export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java and
> PATH=$PATH:${JAVA_HOME}/bin?

The update alternatives will let you choose between the java's. It does not 
pickup the javac from Sun (must be manually put in there. Java must be 
manually put into alternatives as well if not done using a proper .deb.

I installed the Sun Java using their self-extracting .bin.
Exported JAVA_HOME and put the /bin on my path

Also tried the update-alternatives using the "dummy packages" from Debian.

Java was broken a long while back by a XFree86 upgrade--at least then, 
Netbeans would try to execute and kick me off X. Reinstalled everything, 
tried everyting. Now I only get:
# java
Error occurred during initialization of VM
java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object

Setting alternatives to the Gnu stuff will work as compiler. One needs the 
Java VM for anything else.


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Re: weird pb

[Alexandros Papadopoulos]

On Tuesday 29 June 2004 15:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a really weird problem on one of my box (woody):
>
> [(14:15:00) Linux Wifix ~]$ ls
> Segmentation fault
> [(14:15:02) Linux Wifix ~]$
>
> any idea?
 
$ strace ls

and see where it dies.

-A


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Re: udev question

[John L Fjellstad]

Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Alternatively use /dev/input/mice and your application will receive
> input from all attached mice.  Simple.  :-)  (with kernel 2.6 that
> includes USB -and- PS/2 mice)

Interesting. I didn't know this.  Just used the section that worked when
I used 2.4.

How do you differentiate between the two devices, though?  For instance,
my usb mouse has three buttons and my mousepad has only two. Right now I
can set up the mousepad emulate 3-button mouse, but usb mouse doesn't.

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question about kernel 2.6

[j smith]

i have Debian 2.6, Bt878-based TV card. i downloaded
kernel 2.6 from kernel.org, and compile it. when i
execute "make module_install", it complains. needless
to say, when i use the new kernel, it can't find bttv
driver. attached is .config, what's wrong?



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Re: Debian's javac vs Sun's new installation of j2sdk

[Michael B Allen]

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:32:57 +0300
David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The update alternatives will let you choose between the java's. It does
> not pickup the javac from Sun (must be manually put in there. Java must be
> 
> manually put into alternatives as well if not done using a proper .deb.
> 
> I installed the Sun Java using their self-extracting .bin.
> Exported JAVA_HOME and put the /bin on my path
> 
> Also tried the update-alternatives using the "dummy packages" from Debian.
> 
> Java was broken a long while back by a XFree86 upgrade--at least then, 
> Netbeans would try to execute and kick me off X. Reinstalled everything, 
> tried everyting. Now I only get:
> # java
> Error occurred during initialization of VM
> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object
> 
> Setting alternatives to the Gnu stuff will work as compiler. One needs the
> 
> Java VM for anything else.

Weird. I've installed Java many times on RedHat. I just recently did it
on testing it exactly the same way (minus /etc/profile in X adjustments)
and it worked exactly as expected. Never even heard of this alternatives
business.

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Re: question about kernel 2.6

[Pim Bliek]

First of all, you shouldn't be compiling kernels from source from
kernel.org unless you have a special reason for it and you what you
are doing.

Instead, you should be installing / compiling new kernels "the Debian
way", which is slightly different, but is quite cool once you get the
hang of it :).

See chapter 9.6.1 on this page:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html on
how to accomplish this.

About the error you are getting:

- did you type make module_install? I think it should be
modules_install. Also, I can remember this is different in 2.6. Look
at the readme that comes with the kernel-source .deb (see the above
manual on how to get the deb)

- bttv cards should be no problem. Works fine here with my Hauppauge WinTV PCI.

Good luck compiling your kernel the Debain way ;)

Pim


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> i have Debian 2.6, Bt878-based TV card. i downloaded
> kernel 2.6 from kernel.org, and compile it. when i
> execute "make module_install", it complains. needless
> to say, when i use the new kernel, it can't find bttv
> driver. attached is .config, what's wrong?
> 
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Re: Debian's javac vs Sun's new installation of j2sdk

[Michael B Allen]

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 00:37:25 -0400
"H. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > /usr/local/ and export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java and
> > PATH=$PATH:${JAVA_HOME}/bin?
> 
> This is what I did. I extracted the version of the Java in 
> /usr/local/java. Then made links
> /usr/local/j2sdk -> /usr/local/java/java-version-dir
> 
> and put
> export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/j2sdk/bin
> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/j2sdk

Exactly. Or rather I use /usr/local/java as the link to
/usr/local/jsdkxxx.

> in /etc/profile

Note a good way to setup the shell environment in X so you can run java
and javac on the commandline is to start the session manager through a
login shell by changing:

 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start

to read:

  exec -l $SHELL -c "$STARTUP"

People coming from RedHat will definately want to do this. Otherwise
shells don't initialize their environment by sourcing /etc/profile and
thus your exports will not be visible.

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Re: Slow disk - hdparm, S.M.A.R.T, badblocks, what else?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 05:59:57PM -0400, Silvan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thursday 08 July 2004 06:59 am, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> 
> >   - Bad drive?
> 
> I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I think it quite likely.  One of
> those old reports you read might have been mine.  I don't remember the
> model number I had, but if yours is one of the ~5400 RPM 40 GB
> Maxtors, the one I had was junk.  Mine died barely into the three year
> warranty, and I didn't even bother to return it and get the
> replacement.  (I cut it in half, actually.  :)

That's pretty much the conclusion I'm coming to.  No more results to
publish right now, but some more poking around with SMART tells me the
drive's risking imminent failure.  I'm backing data off of it now (very
slowly), hope to replace it tomorrow.

I also downloaded the Maxtor test utility (Smartmon?) which requires a
legacy MS Windows box to create a floppy (idiots).  Remind me to cut an
image of that.  Haven't run it yet as I'd need to reboot the system and
kill my backup.

I _also_ booted the system on Knoppix briefly to check that it was
getting the same 'hdparm -tT /dev/hda' results I was (sanity check on
hdparm settings).  Yep, within spitting distance, anyways.


A few additional notes.

  - After installing smartsuite, I found that the smartmontools package
is the currently maintained, up-to-date, and replacement package.
More useful information from this.

  - Running the "short" test (nominal runtime:  2 minutes) failed to
complete in well over two hours.  I'm trying to avoid stressing the
drive more than necessary while I recover data from it.

  - There's a good article on monitoring drives with SMART tools in
January 2004 Linux Journal:

Monitoring Hard Disks with SMART
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6983

...though interpreting the reports is still something of a black
art.  There's really good docs at:

http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

...including links to specs and stuff.  Reading 'em now.

The Seagate whitepaper's interesting of itself.  A 5C temperature
rise from 25F to 30F decreases drive MTBF by 25%.  Keep them
platters cool!

The smartmontools package will keep track of your disk(s) and notify you
in advance when they start acting up.  *VERY* strongly recommended
package for anyone w/ HW from the past 4-5 years.


> I have a 7200 RPM Maxtor based on a Quantum design that has run
> flawlessly for a good long while now.  This drive is black.  The other
> one was silver.

Silver here, I believe, though it's in an odd vertical caddy on this
system (a repurposed Dell desktop) which makes it hard to tell.
 
> If you can, I think I'd try a different drive.  You may not have much
> choice anyway.  When mine decided to die, it gave me no real warning.
> Weird problems, but nothing I could really put my finger on.  I kept
> thinking it was the kernel, or the ext3 filesystem, or my hdparm
> settings.  Running it all ext2 seemed to get it going.  Then, as luck
> would have it, mere hours after I copied its contents onto another
> drive, it started head bashing.

Yeah.  I'm also getting clicks out of the machine though I'm not sure if
they're the HD or the Zip drive (unused, but present) immediately above
it.  Haven't tried disconnecting the Zip to isolate it.


Thanks for the responses, I'll report back w/ more.


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Re: question about kernel 2.6

[j smith]

thanks!

i read the Debian book, but it explicitly says:

"Note that you don't have to compile your kernel the
``Debian way''; but we find that using the packaging
system to manage your kernel is actually safer and
easier."

so i choose non-debian way. the correct command is
"make modules_install", it warns me that "you may need
to install modules_init_tools" and complains
"unresolved symbols"

could you offer some suggestion?




--- Pim Bliek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First of all, you shouldn't be compiling kernels
> from source from
> kernel.org unless you have a special reason for it
> and you what you
> are doing.
> 
> Instead, you should be installing / compiling new
> kernels "the Debian
> way", which is slightly different, but is quite cool
> once you get the
> hang of it :).
> 
> See chapter 9.6.1 on this page:
>
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html
> on
> how to accomplish this.
> 
> About the error you are getting:
> 
> - did you type make module_install? I think it
> should be
> modules_install. Also, I can remember this is
> different in 2.6. Look
> at the readme that comes with the kernel-source .deb
> (see the above
> manual on how to get the deb)
> 
> - bttv cards should be no problem. Works fine here
> with my Hauppauge WinTV PCI.
> 
> Good luck compiling your kernel the Debain way ;)
> 
> Pim
> 
> 
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 01:27:54 -0700 (PDT), j smith
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i have Debian 2.6, Bt878-based TV card. i
> downloaded
> > kernel 2.6 from kernel.org, and compile it. when i
> > execute "make module_install", it complains.
> needless
> > to say, when i use the new kernel, it can't find
> bttv
> > driver. attached is .config, what's wrong?
> > 
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openoffice won't import eps postscript graphic

[Dave Howorth]

I'm trying to import an EPS file into OOo Writer. I choose 
Insert/Graphics/FromFile... then select EPS as the file type and click 
on my eps file But when I press the open button, it says 'Unknown 
graphic format'. I haven't been able to find anything in the help or on 
this list.

I'm running Woody with:
openoffice.org  1.0.3-2
openoffice.org-bin  1.0.3-1woody2
openoffice.org-debian-files 1.0.3-2+1
openoffice.org-help-en  1.0.3-2
openoffice.org-I10n-en  1.0.3-2
(I don't know why the versions are slightly different)
The eps file was created by Grace 5.1.7.
Can anybody suggest what might be causing the problem or how to fix it?
Thanks, Dave
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Re: system resource monitor

[Erwin Lang]

hi!
maybe you like this:
http://bigsister.sourceforge.net/
by
erwin
Am Freitag, 9. Juli 2004 08:37 schrieb David N. Welton:
> [ Please CC replies to me.  Thanks! ]
>
> Hi folks, I've perused the package listings, and had a brief look at
> netsaint, but am not sure it's what I need.
>
> What I do need is a system that will reside on a hosted server and let
> me know if it starts to run out of resources, or if any important
> systems go down (obviously some things would be better monitored from
> some other machine...).
>
> Can anyone recommend something that will do that simply and easily?
>
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Re: question about kernel 2.6

[Pim Bliek]

Hi,

> i read the Debian book, but it explicitly says:
> 
> "Note that you don't have to compile your kernel the
> ``Debian way''; but we find that using the packaging
> system to manage your kernel is actually safer and
> easier."
> 
> so i choose non-debian way. the correct command is

Just out of curiousity, but *why* did you choose the non-Debian way?

Pim


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keyboard does not work under X,but mouse works...??

[anand_12]

Hi all 

I am using a Debian system(2.4.20 kernel),P4 1.8 GHz 
256 MB RAM/40 GB HDD and standard PS/2 keyboard and mouse. 
My machine is shared by several users though I retain the root access. 

Normally I don't shut down my machine.I just log off. 
Today when I tried logging in,the screen was blanking out for every key press.So the 
login was unsuccessful. 

None of the keys were working.I could not open even other tty's ...i rebooted the 
machine..the problem persisted... 
then i logged into my machine remotely...and issued a kill on X server...this gave the 
prompt on the screen..here all commands i typed worked perfectly fine..i have not lost 
any contents..i checked all my files..everything is fine...it is just none of my key 
presses are detected properly when i am inside x..otherwise..i am able to edit,compile 
and run programs... 

one more thing..when i issue a startx command,i get the default display with all menus 
and contents(i use kde2)..also i am able to browse the contents of machine using the 
mouse(single click,right click etc)..but every key pressed on the keyboard blanks the 
screen..i don't understand whats going on... 

my gdm.conf file says the server is attached to the standard VT7 terminal... 

can anyone help me with this? 

thanks a bunch for any help in this regard. 

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Broken GNOME in unstable

[Jonathan Carter]

Hi Debian fanatics
I'm using debian unstable and my gnome is totally broken. Even gnome 
apps such as gedit doesn't work when I use KDE.

Any ideas?
Thanks
Jonathan
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Re: tmda (was Re: Attach filter)

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 09:19:01PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 2004-07-08, Karsten M. Self penned:
> >
> >
> > Jason Mastaler accepts criticism so graciously he's banned me from any
> > mail access to his domain.  Go figure.  That's adult, open, honest,
> > and principled.
> 
> Maybe because you've repeatedly proven yourself incapable of holding up
> your end of a civilized conversation on his mailing list?  

Pardon?

My first bug report on TMDA resulted in the package maintainer bluffing
that I be stripped of BTS privileges and a brief post to the TMDA user
list entitled "k00k's rant":

http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-workers/2003-08/msg00142.html


I accepted an invitation to call someone arrogant, and satisfied the
request.  Perhaps not the top of social graces...

http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2003-09/msg00190.html


...but I'm not the only one seeing that light:

http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2003-09/msg00271.html



Germane questions and challenges were met by such rigorous technical
responses as "Stop acting like a prat", "[Jason, ] Are you going to kick
abusive evangelists like Karsten...from the list?", "knowing it's people
like Karsten that get pissed off because of C/R, somehow I like the idea
of C/R even better now", "You should have perished in the abortion your
mother wanted to have. FOAD."

http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2003-09/msg00244.html
http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2003-09/msg00261.html
http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2003-09/msg00264.html
http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2003-09/msg00269.html

Oh, and my response to that last, just for the record:

http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2003-09/msg00269.html


Yeah, I guess it was all me, Monique.   Your intuition is just so right
there.


Jason tipped his hand early at that point as he has later.  Criticism
isn't brooked.  Censorship, of course, is:

http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2003-09/msg00291.html

...in fact, he halted the entire list that time:

http://mla.libertine.org/tmda-users/2003-09/msg00304.html


> Having seen your behavior on that very public forum, I can only
> imagine what you've said to him in private.

You like launching attacks from a position of near-zero information,
don't you.  Doesn't do much for your credibility.  Peace, baby.


Lessee  I think I've directly mailed Jason about four times (going
through archives now).   You're welcome to check this with Jason, if you
wish.


I'm snipping Mastaler's portion of these dialogs as they're his comments
made in private communications.  I'm paraphrasing for continuity, trying
to reflect his general meaning.  Mastaler's language generally wasn't
aggressive (he's more the passive-aggressive type it would seem).

Initial off-list post to Jason, responding to my subscribing to
TMDA-users.  This being before I posted anything to list:

[Noticed your list subscription, I've seen your rants and
bugreport.  You're entitled to your opinion, but don't be a
hellraiser.]

NP.

I'm looking for answers to questions regarding TMDA and other C-R
schemes.

I am fairly convinced that there are no technical solutions to the
problems encountered.  However, I have enough intellectual honesty
that I seek to write from an informed, rather than uninformed
viewpoint.

I've found that this appears to be a trait lacking among a number of
C-R proponents.  Alan Connor (debian-user list) I'll write off as a
nutcase.  Adam McKenna's response ("if you change the severity back
to grave...your ability to use the BTS will be taken away"[1], and
"My time is billed at $150 per hour") was particularly
disheartening.  On the other hand, Kyle Hasselbach has been both
fair and honest.  I don't think I've changed his mind, but we've had
a good correspondence both at K5 and privately.

C-R strikes me as fundamentally wrong.  Misguided, understandable
intentions, but wrong.  What I'm trying to ensure is that my
criticisms are valid.  And, to the extent that there are technical
fixes, that these are implemented.

As for why the broad-brush treatment:  C-R is to an extent like
spam.  There _are_ the (very occasional) interesting and useful
products advertised by spam.  This doesn't make spam useful.  It's
the abuse or poor design of 99.998% of spam that makes the 4
messages per year I might actually appreciate untenable.  Moreover:
the mechanisms I have for dealing with the 19,996 are going to
shitcan those four as well.


Coming from another perspective:  y'all have already intruded on my
inbox with unwanted mail.  Honesty says that turnabout is fair play.

The question is:  are you honest.

Peace


Notes:

1.  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=207300


And responding to his followup.

Jason:

To save yourself formulatin

Re: Broken GNOME in unstable

[William Ballard]

On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 12:11:18PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Hi Debian fanatics
> 
> I'm using debian unstable and my gnome is totally broken. Even gnome 
> apps such as gedit doesn't work when I use KDE.
> 
> Any ideas?

My idea is you should ask a more specific question and read the bug 
reports.  Try a clean profile.


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Re: how to set time-out for smbmount?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 06:40:46PM +0200, Andreas Eichner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I've set up auto-mounting for a samba-share. My problem is that xmms
> probes all directories, including the share's mount-point. When the
> server is down, it hangs there... But on a LAN it shouldn't take too
> much time to connect, so I want to set up a slow time-out of 1 second
> for example.  But how can I tell it smbmount?

Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters.  I strongly
recommend 72 as a good default.

While many mail clients will accomodate unwrapped text:

  - Some don't.  Be considerate.

  - Many more fail to wrap and attribute quotes properly.

  - Many web-based list archives render unwrapped text as very long
lines, e.g.:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200309/msg00568.html

Thank you.



I don't see a response to this.

It's a global option to autofs.  You set the timeout in
/etc/default/autofs.

I've used values of 3-8 seconds, typically.


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Re: question about kernel 2.6

[j smith]

i find it easier.

have you followed instruction in the Debian handbook
and installed kernel 2.6 and successfully run xawtv?
if so, i will have to try debian way, which i find 
harder.


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> 
> > i read the Debian book, but it explicitly says:
> > 
> > "Note that you don't have to compile your kernel
> the
> > ``Debian way''; but we find that using the
> packaging
> > system to manage your kernel is actually safer and
> > easier."
> > 
> > so i choose non-debian way. the correct command is
> 
> Just out of curiousity, but *why* did you choose the
> non-Debian way?
> 
> Pim
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[boudewijn . charite]

Hello, 

I've a few questions. I have a Tyan 2885ANRF motherboard and wanna try linux, especially Debian because I heard it is quit easy to use and maintain. so I've downloaded the latest network install package and give it a try. The first problem was that is didn't recognise my LAN adapter "Broadcom BCM5703C GbE", I found a linux driver for it on the Internet, but missed the option in the installation program of getting a driver from floppy. The same for the "Silicon Image Sil3114 SATA RAID Accelerator". Is there a solution for now, because I want to try it, getting sick of windows, or when do you think you can add the drivers for both parts. I've not much experience with Linux so I hope that the work around is not that difficult. 

By the way I tried knoppix 3.4(debian based) also and it recognise my LAN adapter, not the raid controller. 

Can you help me out for now, 

Thanks, 

Groeten,

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Re: Debian's javac vs Sun's new installation of j2sdk

[Jacob S.]

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:32:57 +0300
David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Netbeans would try to execute and kick me off X. Reinstalled
> everything, tried everyting. Now I only get:
> # java
> Error occurred during initialization of VM
> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object

The following url for a forum thread on Java's site probably has the
answer for your error. I was getting the same error and used the unpack
rt.jar method mentioned on the following thread.

http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=14&thread=441886&tstart=75&trange=15

HTH,
Jacob

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Re: question about kernel 2.6

[Pim Bliek]

It is maybe harder in the beginning, but once you get used to it is
really easier in my opinion. Why? Because you can easily go back to
previously built kernels; you still have the .debs in /usr/src, so it
makes it rather flexible.

And yes, I've got xawtv running using 2.6.5 if I am correct (I am not
at home right now so I cannot check to make 100% sure). Just compiled
it in, no big problems. I have a Hauppauge WinTV PCI (bt848).

Good luck!

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 04:07:24 -0700 (PDT), j smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i find it easier.
> 
> have you followed instruction in the Debian handbook
> and installed kernel 2.6 and successfully run xawtv?
> if so, i will have to try debian way, which i find
> harder.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Pim Bliek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > i read the Debian book, but it explicitly says:
> > >
> > > "Note that you don't have to compile your kernel
> > the
> > > ``Debian way''; but we find that using the
> > packaging
> > > system to manage your kernel is actually safer and
> > > easier."
> > >
> > > so i choose non-debian way. the correct command is
> >
> > Just out of curiousity, but *why* did you choose the
> > non-Debian way?
> >
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Re: [OT] squidguard, dansguardian, other?? on a 486?

[Jacob S.]

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 00:05:41 -0700
"Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 07:55:41PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I'm searching for a good system (squid + add on) for my firewall
> > which will do a reasonable job knocking out obvious problem sites
> > for my kids as they use the Web.  So far I've seen mentions of
> > squidguard and dansguardian, but don't know of others to consider,
> > if there are any.
> > 
> > Does anyone have thoughts about either of these possibilities?  The
> > only previous post I found concerning both turned out to be a
> > discussion about using one in particular.
> > 
> > My current (Shorewall based) firewall is my original 486/66 (48 Mb
> > ram) which also works well as our gateway.  I don't know what this
> > will do to it, though.  Anybody have thoughts about this part?

> The main detraction to dansguardian is that it posts a big "denied"
> page up for anything that was denied.  For some banners, you just want
> a transparent drop.  What I do at home is control this via DNS,
> declare myself authoritative for a number of domains, send all traffic
> to a virtualhost on my local webserver, and serve up a light green 1x1
> PNG for all requests (the blocked content).  Results can be seen at:
> 
> http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Images/green-is-blocked-ads.png


Adzapper is another way to serve a small image instead of a big denied
page. Then you don't have to go to the trouble of dns games, either. As
with dansguardian, it's available in Woody.

HTH,
Jacob

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Re: locale not set, how do I set it?

[Nate Bargmann]

* Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Jul 09 06:11 -0500]:
> I have 3.4 installed to the hard disk. Trying to install software with 
> KPackage. It succesfully get the packages but when it tries to install I 
> get the following:
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
>LANGUAGE = (unset),
>LC_ALL = "en_US",
>LANG="C"
>  are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
> and then a bunch of dpkg-deb: subprocess tar killed by signal messages.
> 
> How/where do I set the locale?

Install the locales package as afore mentioned.  Helping a friend do an
install yesterday after a HD crash we installed locales through
aptitude.  Strangely, we had to run dpkg-reconfigure locales to set it
up properly.  In the user's home directory I've always added "export
LANG=en_US" to ~/.bashrc  I also use localepurge to only keep my
prefered locale files on my systems.

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Re: OpenOffice Window Values Location

[Alexandros Papadopoulos]

On Friday 02 July 2004 00:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know where OpenOffice stores the default locations and
> sizes of the windows it opens upon startup?
>
> For some reason, something got messed up in my installation of
> OpenOffice, and now when it opens a document, the window is at the
> very top of my screen such that the window bar is off the screen, and
> I can't drag the window on the screen.
>
> If anyone knows where it stores these values, I'd like to edit them
> :)

This seems to be a bug with OOo, at least the Debian builds. I get the 
same behavior too.

This is easy to handle for experienced users, but a show-stopper for 
newbies who have no idea about keyboard shortcuts to manage windows 
without being able to use the titlebar.

Any fixes/pointers to bug reports?

-A


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Re: question about kernel 2.6

[Russ Pitman]

j smith wrote:
> thanks!
> 
> i read the Debian book, but it explicitly says:
> 
> "Note that you don't have to compile your kernel the
> ``Debian way''; but we find that using the packaging
> system to manage your kernel is actually safer and
> easier."
> 
> so i choose non-debian way. the correct command is
> "make modules_install", it warns me that "you may need
> to install modules_init_tools" and complains
> "unresolved symbols"
> 
> could you offer some suggestion?
> 


Using either way if the method is applied correctly the compile should be ok
provided you have installed all the required software.
 In your case you appear to not have installed 'module_init_tools'. This is
esential for 2.6.x series of kernels .

Apt-get install module_init-tools should fix the error msg and hopefully the
problem. 

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Re: openoffice won't import eps postscript graphic

[Roberto Sanchez]

Dave Howorth wrote:
I'm trying to import an EPS file into OOo Writer. I choose 
Insert/Graphics/FromFile... then select EPS as the file type and click 
on my eps file But when I press the open button, it says 'Unknown 
graphic format'. I haven't been able to find anything in the help or on 
this list.

I'm running Woody with:
openoffice.org  1.0.3-2
openoffice.org-bin  1.0.3-1woody2
openoffice.org-debian-files 1.0.3-2+1
openoffice.org-help-en  1.0.3-2
openoffice.org-I10n-en  1.0.3-2
(I don't know why the versions are slightly different)
The eps file was created by Grace 5.1.7.
Can anybody suggest what might be causing the problem or how to fix it?
Thanks, Dave

IS it actually an EPS graphic? or a PS graphic that was just saved
with an EPS extension?  Try opening it in the GIMP and resaving it.
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Re: Getting sound-juicer to rip Mp3?

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Mark C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've just installed sound-juicer, and discovered that it cannot rip
Mp3's, after some googling, it would seem I need some form of gstreamer
plugin, I have all the available ones from unstable and still there is
no Mp3 support, I've even rebuild sound-juicer from the debian source,
but still no support.
Can or does anyone know of a way to get this to work under debian?
I've used grip for the past few years, but really like the simple design
of sound juicer.
1. fetch a gstreamer-lame RPM. I got mine from
   http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=3&search=gstreamer-lame
   (Choose gstreamer-lame v0.6 for sound-juicer v0.5.10, or v0.8 for
   sound-juicer v0.5.12+. I used a PLD package.)
2. alien gstreamer-lame*.rpm
3. dpkg -i gstreamer-lame*.deb
4. gst-register-0.6 or gst-register-0.8
5. Enjoy!
Henrik
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Re: Hotkeys при русской раскладке в X

["J. Preiß"]

ÐÐÑÐÐÐ ÐÐÑ schrieb:
ÐÐÑÐÐÑÑÐÑÐÑÐ, debian-user.
ÐÑÑÐ ÐÐ ÐÐÐ Ð ÐÐÑÑÐÐÐÑÑ ÑÐÐÐÑÐÑÑ ÑÐÑÐÐÐ , ÐÐÐÑÐÐÐÑ Ctrl+C
,Ctrl+V Ð ÐÑ. Ð ÐÐÑÐÑ, Ð ÐÐÐ ÑÐÑÐÐ. ÐÑÐ ÐÐÑÐÐÐ ÐÑÐ ÐÐ, Ð
ÐÑÐ ÐÐÐ ÐÐÑ.
 

Good question. Thats a thing I am also missing when I switch the 
keyboard to russian...
But on the other hand: the hotkeys must also be translatable. Do you 
work with kde?

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Re: ping not working

[disciple]

Replaced NIC and it worked fine...


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Re: openoffice won't import eps postscript graphic

[Dave Howorth]

I wrote
I'm trying to import an EPS file into OOo Writer. I choose 
Insert/Graphics/FromFile... then select EPS as the file type and click 
on my eps file But when I press the open button, it says 'Unknown 
graphic format'. I haven't been able to find anything in the help or 
on this list.

I'm running Woody with:
openoffice.org  1.0.3-2
openoffice.org-bin  1.0.3-1woody2
openoffice.org-debian-files 1.0.3-2+1
openoffice.org-help-en  1.0.3-2
openoffice.org-I10n-en  1.0.3-2
(I don't know why the versions are slightly different)
The eps file was created by Grace 5.1.7.
Can anybody suggest what might be causing the problem or how to fix it?
Roberto Sanchez replied:
IS it actually an EPS graphic? or a PS graphic that was just saved
with an EPS extension?  Try opening it in the GIMP and resaving it.
Well I saved it using the EPS device, not the PostScript device, and the 
first line says %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0. There does seem to be something 
odd about it though because I get a different problem when loading other 
EPS files from our professional visual aids department. When I load 
those, OOo displays the title, creator, and time notes instead of the 
picture. Is there some way to see the image?

I tried saving my file from the GIMP. Then it has the second problem 
rather than the first. The GIMP rasterizes it when it loads it and saves 
that in the file - I certainly don't want that.

Cheers, Dave
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Re: recompiled kernel, now no framebuffer

[Matt Yates]

Well, the 5th times the charm I guess.  It is now working.  To get it 
working, I said "Y" to the following options using menuconfig:

Support for framebuffer devices
VESA VGA graphics support
VGA text console
Video mode selection support
Framebuffer console support
Select compiled in fonts
VGA 8x8 font
VGA 8x16 font
I said "N" to all framebuffer device drivers except VESA.
I also added a "video" boot option to the kernel.  My grub menu.lst 
kernel entry is now:

kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7-win4lin root=/dev/hda1 ro hdc=scsi 
video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x317

I got the video options from gentoo documentation.  Hope this helps 
anyone else having the same problem.

-Matt
Bill Moseley wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 01:40:37PM -0400, Matt Yates wrote:
 

317Lorenzo,
Did you find any solution to this problem?  I have recompiled my kernel 
4 times now with various configurations to try and get the framebuffer 
working, but I always get a blank screen.
   

I lost my framebuffer on 2.6 upgrade.  I imported a 2.4.21 kernel with
framebuffer support so it was odd that it quit working.  In my case
the solution was simple -- I somehow had not configured VGA_CONSOLE,
VIDEO_SELECT and FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE.
 


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Re: question about kernel 2.6

[Damon L. Chesser]

j smith wrote:
thanks!
i read the Debian book, but it explicitly says:
"Note that you don't have to compile your kernel the
``Debian way''; but we find that using the packaging
system to manage your kernel is actually safer and
easier."
so i choose non-debian way. the correct command is
"make modules_install", it warns me that "you may need
to install modules_init_tools" and complains
"unresolved symbols"
could you offer some suggestion?
J Smith,
see:  http://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm .  Even if you do not 
want to do it the debian way, it lists requirements for running and 
compiling a 2.6.x kernel.  Also see /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/readme 
for a simple, no nonsense list of requirements and steps for doing the 
kernel the debian way.  It is easier.  Make sure you have kernel-package 
 installed.  1. run make menuconfig, config, xconfig, or gconfig (I 
prefer menuconfig as you don't need X to run it.  Handy if you don't 
have x and have a bad kernel.
2. run make-kpkg clean 3. run make-kpkg kernel_image 4. run dpkg -i 
kernelname.deb.

That's it.  It will make, make modules, install them, make an image, 
install it, configure your boot loader, update your package system so 
your system knows what kernel you have.  If you use synaptic, you can 
"see" your kernel listed in the packages and you can remove it if you 
want.  You can also transport the kernel to a new machine if the 
components are close if not identical.  HTH


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Re: Hotkeys при русской раскладке в X

[J. Preiss]

Am Freitag, 9. Juli 2004 14:40 schrieb "J. PreiÃ":
> ÐÐÑÐÐÐ ÐÐÑ schrieb:
> >ÐÐÑÐÐÑÑÐÑÐÑÐ, debian-user.
> >
> >ÐÑÑÐ ÐÐ ÐÐÐ Ð ÐÐÑÑÐÐÐÑÑ ÑÐÐÐÑÐÑÑ 
> >ÑÐÑÐÐÐ , ÐÐÐÑÐÐÐÑ Ctrl+C
> >,Ctrl+V Ð ÐÑ. Ð ÐÐÑÐÑ, Ð ÐÐÐ ÑÐÑÐÐ. ÐÑÐ 
> >ÐÐÑÐÐÐ ÐÑÐ ÐÐ, Ð
> >ÐÑÐ ÐÐÐ ÐÐÑ.
>
> Good question. Thats a thing I am also missing when I switch the
> keyboard to russian...
> But on the other hand: the hotkeys must also be translatable. Do you
> work with kde?

Wondering about my last sentence: when I use KDE with an english GUI, it 
expects the hotkeys in english and I cant switch the hotkeys without changing 
the language. Right? So working with a complete russian environment should 
work... (?)
Should be the same problem for all i18n programs

Re: question about kernel 2.6

[Bill Moseley]

On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 01:20:06PM +0200, Pim Bliek wrote:
> It is maybe harder in the beginning, but once you get used to it is
> really easier in my opinion. Why? Because you can easily go back to
> previously built kernels; you still have the .debs in /usr/src, so it
> makes it rather flexible.

Here's my kernel building complaint:

What I don't like about the Debian way (although that's all I use) is
that it is slow.  If I make one small change in my kernel config or
patch some bit of kernel code then I need to rebuild the entire
kernel.  Like other software, I'd like to be able to just modify some
file and run make and make install and have it smart enough to only
rebuild what's needed (a bit tough if I modify a kernel config) -- but
that would be my wish.

I had a similar situation with the OP trying to get some hardware
working and I spent a good part of a day waiting for the kernel to
recompile over and over.

But, once I get the kernel figured out it's nice to have that .deb
built.

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Cite for print-to-postscript exploit in Mozilla?

[Kevin B. McCarty]

Hi,

I would like to know where you found the security advisory that you
cited in your email to Debian Bugs # 252362 and 247585.  Inquiring minds
would like to know what sort of exploit can be produced by the
print-to-postscript option in Mozilla and Firefox (especially since it
is still enabled by default upstream).  If serious, it should probably
result in the release of Mozilla security updates for woody and
backports.org.

On 2004-06-03 Rebecca Greenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The direct postscript supports has serious remote
> exploits which allow malicious pages to execute any
> shell commands in the content of the current user.
> Sure, if you want that enable it again.

Thanks and regards,

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[no subject]

[sam_wells]

Dear Sir/Madam

I am writing to you to ask if you would like to participate in a community project we 
are running that aims to increase ICT usage among young people in our surrounding 
area. We are currently focusing on linux because of the many distributions and we were 
wandering if you would like us to use you software on our machines. We view this as a 
good opportunity for the promotion of your operating system and to get some feedback 
from our users. I would be delighted if you would get back to me.

Many Thanks,
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document archiving w/ scanner

[martin f krafft]

I am drowning in paperwork and have decided to digitalise it all.
A friend of mine has a HP scanner with automatic paperfeed capable
of doing 15 pages/min. I don't need quite that much performance
(though I would not complain), but I need to be able to do this in
Linux. Moreover, the scanned documents should become PDFs or
otherwise easily searchable, otherwise there is no point in the
whole endeavour.

Is anyone using scanners for document archiving? What software are
you using? How well does it work? What scanner(s) can you recommend?

Thanks,

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Novell Linux Resource Kit Offer

[GodMode]

hey,
just recieved an email from a buddy of mine, thought people out there would
like to check it out. its not spam.
just a special offer from novell
linux resource kit

http://www.novell.com/community/linux/order.php

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Re: your request for Debian involvement

[Oliver Elphick]

On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 14:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear Sir/Madam
> 
> I am writing to you to ask if you would like to participate in a
> community project we are running that aims to increase ICT usage among
> young people in our surrounding area.

What is your area?  Debian is a worldwide group, so you need to be more
specific.

>  We are currently focusing on linux because of the many distributions
> and we were wandering if you would like us to use you software on our
> machines.

We welcome new users, but you should realise that we are not a
commercial organisation and have no marketing budget.  Therefore there
are no freebies, except for possible volunteer help.

> We view this as a good opportunity for the promotion of your operating
> system and to get some feedback from our users. I would be delighted
> if you would get back to me.
> 
> Many Thanks,
> Sam Wells


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Dissapering SubDirectorys????

[Ralph Crongeyer]

Hi all,
I have a directory with allot of files and some subdirectories in it but 
I can't see the directories at all via FTP or the command line, however 
I can see them using "mc" (Midnight Commander)? Why???

It is a Debian SID install with an ext3 file system.
Thanks
Ralph
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RE: Cite for print-to-postscript exploit in Mozilla?

[Ian Douglas]

http://www.imc.org/ietf-822/old-archive1/msg01346.html

Is probably what is being refered to...

Ian

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Subject: Cite for print-to-postscript exploit in Mozilla?
Date: Fri Jul 09 13:17:17 GMT 2004

>Hi,
>
>I would like to know where you found the security advisory that you
>cited in your email to Debian Bugs # 252362 and 247585.  Inquiring minds
>would like to know what sort of exploit can be produced by the
>print-to-postscript option in Mozilla and Firefox (especially since it
>is still enabled by default upstream). 

Re: Cite for print-to-postscript exploit in Mozilla?

[Kevin B. McCarty]

On 07/09/2004 04:02 PM, Ian Douglas wrote:
> http://www.imc.org/ietf-822/old-archive1/msg01346.html
> 
> Is probably what is being refered to...

Thanks for the link!  (Wow, foreshadowing of virus infections via email
attachments...)

But is there any way in which Mozilla's print-to-postscript is _less_
safe than using gv to open up a random PostScript file found somewhere
on the Internet?  Or are the two equally insecure?  If the latter, then
does it make sense to turn off postscript printing without also removing
gv and other PS viewers from Debian?

I admit this last question is a bit rhetorical.  My point is that, as
sysadmin of a physics cluster running Debian/woody on which people
frequently look at downloaded PS files anyway, I want to know whether it
is really worth my time to upgrade Mozilla [currently running 1.4 from
Adrian Bunk's backports], install Xprint from unstable, and go through
the apparently non-trivial task of getting it to work well.

By the way, is PDF also Turing-complete with the accompanying security
issues?

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Re: log in limbo

[Adam Aube]

JOHN WALL wrote:

> I`m having a problem logging in at the console, each time
> I do log in the console reverts back to the log in screen.
> There`s a message relating to PAM unix not allowing the user
> in; session closed for user.

Have you tried logging in as root? Do you get the same problem?

If so, then you have a PAM misconfiguration. You need to add the following
to the kernel boot parameters to get a root shell:

init=/bin/sh

Once you have the shell, post the output of the following to the list:

grep -Ev "^(#|$)" /etc/pam.d/login

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Re: Dissapering SubDirectorys????

[Diego Martínez Castañeda]

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:35:15 -0400, Ralph Crongeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a directory with allot of files and some subdirectories in it but
> I can't see the directories at all via FTP or the command line, however
> I can see them using "mc" (Midnight Commander)? Why???

you don't have assign right permissions to files and directories. execute this:

# chown -R ftp:ftp /path/to/dir
# find /path/to/dir -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; 
# find /path/to/dir -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; 

this would be enougth.

diego

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Keeping a customized file from being updated during package upgrade

[Ken Long]

I have a question that I hope someone can help me with.

As some background, we had a problem where every once in a very long
while, someone (usually me O:) ) would get a little ahead of themselves
and issue a shutdown command to shut down the system they were logged in
on.  Problem was, the person would be in a rush and not notice they were
actually still ssh'ed into another machine when they typed it!  As you
can imagine, doing a "shutdown -h now" on your mail server when you're
sitting at home (over an hour away) is not a pleasant thing to have
happen.  

So, I had this bright idea to replace shutdown with a script that
would take an additional parameter of the hostname of the system.  The
script would then check the hostname given on the commandline against
the hostname of the system it was being run on and only pass on the rest
of the parameters to the real shutdown command if they matched.

S, the short of it is that now, /sbin/shutdown is this script and
the stock shutdown command is /sbin/shutdown.real

So, here is my question.  How can I make it so that if I upgrade the
sysvinit package on a system, it will either just not touch the
/sbin/shutdown file, or better yet, redirect the new /sbin/shutdown file
to /sbin/shutdown.real instead?  Is that possible?

Thanks in advance for your help!

-Ken

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Re: Can I execute keys on the keyboard from .xsession?

[HdV]

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Paal Marker wrote:

> That page is  not under my controle, so I have to do this locally.  What
> is the reason why I should not do this in .xsession?

Well, it just isn't the place to do it. You'd want to make sure that the
focus is alway set, even if .xinitrc is used instead of .xsession.
Another reason could be that you might want to revisit that page later
in the browsing session. In my opinion it is always better to put
functionality as close to its source as possible. Here that means the
webpage itself. Of course that requires modifiaction of that page and
that might prove difficult if it is not under your control...

Grx HdV


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force check on boot

[disciple]

/dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.

I'm getting this every time I boot my system.  When I shut down, I do
either exit or logout, and then manually shut down the laptop.  Laptop is
a Dell c610.  How do I fix this?  How do I get the laptop to shutdown
without me manually pushing the button?


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Re: Keeping a customized file from being updated during package upgrade

[Jacob S.]

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:31:02 -0400
Ken Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> So, here is my question.  How can I make it so that if I upgrade the
> sysvinit package on a system, it will either just not touch the
> /sbin/shutdown file, or better yet, redirect the new /sbin/shutdown
> file to /sbin/shutdown.real instead?  Is that possible?

dpkg-divert does exactly what you're looking for. "man dpkg-divert" for
more information.

> Thanks in advance for your help!

Any time!

Jacob

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RE: Re: Cite for print-to-postscript exploit in Mozilla?

[Ian Douglas]

I guess if you really wanted to get fancy you could setup postscript rendering as 
service in a chrooted jail, so it doesn't really matter if anything runs as it will 
not have access to the OS file system or services.

Ian

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To: Ian Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
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Subject: Re: Cite for print-to-postscript exploit in Mozilla?
Date: Fri Jul 09 14:18:51 GMT 2004

>On 07/09/2004 04:02 PM, Ian Douglas wrote:
>> http://www.imc.org/ietf-822/old-archive1/msg01346.html
>> 
>> Is probably what is being refered to...
>
>Thanks for the link!  (Wow, foreshadowing of virus infections via email
>attachments...)
>
>But is there any way in which Mozilla's print-to-postscript is _less_
>safe than using gv to open up a random PostScript file found somewhere
>on the Internet?  Or are the two equally insecure?  If the latter, then
>does it make sense to turn off postscript printing without also removing
>gv and other PS viewers from Debian?
>
>I admit this last question is a bit rhetorical.  My point is that, as
>sysadmin of a physics cluster running Debian/woody on which people
>frequently look at downloaded PS files anyway, I want to know whether it
>is really worth my time to upgrade Mozilla [currently running 1.4 from
>Adrian Bunk's backports], install Xprint from unstable, and go through
>the apparently non-trivial task of getting it to work well.
>
>By the way, is PDF also Turing-complete with the accompanying security
>issues?
>
>regards,
>
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Re: openoffice won't import eps postscript graphic

[Dean Allen Provins]

Dave:

On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 01:48:38PM +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
> I wrote
> >>I'm trying to import an EPS file into OOo Writer. I choose 
> >>Insert/Graphics/FromFile... then select EPS as the file type and click 
> >>on my eps file But when I press the open button, it says 'Unknown 
> >>graphic format'. I haven't been able to find anything in the help or 
> >>on this list.
> >>
> >>I'm running Woody with:
> >>openoffice.org  1.0.3-2
> >>openoffice.org-bin  1.0.3-1woody2
> >>openoffice.org-debian-files 1.0.3-2+1
> >>openoffice.org-help-en  1.0.3-2
> >>openoffice.org-I10n-en  1.0.3-2
> >>(I don't know why the versions are slightly different)
> >>
> >>The eps file was created by Grace 5.1.7.
> >>
> >>Can anybody suggest what might be causing the problem or how to fix it?
> 
> Roberto Sanchez replied:
> >IS it actually an EPS graphic? or a PS graphic that was just saved
> >with an EPS extension?  Try opening it in the GIMP and resaving it.

You can check the file format via: 'file name_of_file'.

> Well I saved it using the EPS device, not the PostScript device, and the 
> first line says %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0. There does seem to be something 
> odd about it though because I get a different problem when loading other 
> EPS files from our professional visual aids department. When I load 
> those, OOo displays the title, creator, and time notes instead of the 
> picture. Is there some way to see the image?

EPS files can include a rastered version of the image which when opened
in OO, and also in MS presentation, is displayed in the preview box, and
on the page when finally positioned.  Only when the final PostScript is
generated does the actual EPS image get displayed.  To include such a
rastered version, use "ps2epsi".

I have used "eps2eps" on occasion to get a good quality EPS iamge for
inclusion in a document.  It may not help you, but it too might be worth a
try.

> I tried saving my file from the GIMP. Then it has the second problem 
> rather than the first. The GIMP rasterizes it when it loads it and saves 
> that in the file - I certainly don't want that.

> Cheers, Dave

Regards,

Dean

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Re: Cite for print-to-postscript exploit in Mozilla?

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004, Ian Douglas wrote:
> I guess if you really wanted to get fancy you could setup postscript
> rendering as service in a chrooted jail, so it doesn't really matter if
> anything runs as it will not have access to the OS file system or
> services.

Doesn't just about anything that call ghostscript pass a -dSAFER to it
nowadays?   The only exploit you should get to do, then, would be reading
any readable file in the system... or making gs hog a lot of CPU/memory,
which is often its normal operational condition anyway ;-)

A chroot jail would be nice anyway, though :)

OTOH, maybe the postscript code in mozilla itself has a security hole.  But
the right thing to do would be to *fix* that instead, not to drop it.

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3.0r1 vs 3.0r2

[Thomas S. Atkins]

I have the r1 cd set. I noticed that a r2 is available. I have not installed
Debian yet. what is the difference between the two and is it worth getting
the r2 before I install Debian?

Thanks for any info.

Tom Atkins


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Re: Pick up a shell session after ssh timeout

[Bijan Soleymani]

Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Brad Sims wrote:
>> Nope, but thats why the fine folks at GNU made screen 
>
> Screen has me so spoiled I wish I could do the same with
> individal X programs.  I know I can do a whole session with VNC but
> I'd love to be able to start a program on one X session (say my VNC
> session) and then eventually pick it up on my game
> bo...er...workstation's local X session without having to get the
> rest of the programs in the VNC session.

There's a program called xmove that let's you move x applications
from one display to another (can be seperate computers).

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Re: force check on boot

[s. keeling]

Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> /dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
> 
> I'm getting this every time I boot my system.  When I shut down, I do
> either exit or logout, and then manually shut down the laptop.  Laptop is

What do you mean by "manually shut down the laptop?"  If you mean
punch the power button, there's your problem.

> a Dell c610.  How do I fix this?  How do I get the laptop to shutdown
> without me manually pushing the button?

As root, "sync ; sync ; shutdown -h now & exit"

Change the "-h" to "-r" to reboot instead of shutdown/halt.
"shutdown" unmounts all your drives and marks them clean so fsck
doesn't have to check them at boot time (except if it's time to check
it, after a specific number of re-boots; then checks will be forced).


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Re: Using Linux on a Family PC

[Felix C. Stegerman]

Silvan wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 02:37 am, David Baron wrote:

There are, as I posted, many decent kids games on linux. Some are specific
to KDE (a windows-like desktop for linux), some for Gnome (yet another) and
others will work on all X-windows systems. My daughter enjoys "Frozen

That's a bit misleading.  Everything should work on everything, regardless of 
what libs it's built against.  apt will install whatever libs you need to run 
whatever you want, and it doesn't matter what else you're running on top of   
X.  I've run any number of such things from a raw xinit session with no 
window manager at all.  (Hardly ideal or practical, but if that works, 
everything should work.)

I agree.
On my own desktop PC, I use XFCE but still use the Gnome & KDE apps I like.
And, David, thank you for letting me know about TuxPaint.
I already thought of Frozen-Bubbles and TuxRacer myself.
BTW, from your 'explaining' what KDE & Gnome are, I got the impression 
you thought I'm new to Debian (& GNU/Linux). I'm not. I'v been happily 
running unstable for almost 2 years now.

Regards,
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Re: openoffice won't import eps postscript graphic

[Dave Howorth]

Dean Allen Provins wrote:
IS it actually an EPS graphic? or a PS graphic that was just saved
with an EPS extension?  Try opening it in the GIMP and resaving it.
You can check the file format via: 'file name_of_file'.
I think all file does is check whether the file contains 'EPSF', whereas 
GIMP has to parse the whole file.

EPS files from our professional visual aids department. When I load 
those, OOo displays the title, creator, and time notes instead of the 
picture. Is there some way to see the image?
EPS files can include a rastered version of the image which when opened
in OO, and also in MS presentation, is displayed in the preview box, and
on the page when finally positioned.  Only when the final PostScript is
generated does the actual EPS image get displayed.  To include such a
rastered version, use "ps2epsi".
Some of the images I got from our visual aids group had preview images, 
but OOo doesn't display them. Worse yet, it seems I can't print any OOo 
document that contains an EPS image!

I'm getting sorely tempted to boot into Win
Cheers, Dave
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mutt tweaks (was: Re: libc no longer executable in testing/unstable, was in stable (matlab))

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 03:26:45PM -0400, Lee Bradshaw wrote:
| On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 08:47:13PM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote:

| > PS: Mail-Followup-To not honored as it appears to be munged.

Some people actually want a copy.  That is what the header is for --
indicating what your preference is at that time.  (for example, I
don't spend as much time reading the list's folder now as I used to so
I do want a copy of something I sent so I'll notice it; however
sometimes I don't)

| Thanks. I changed "lists" to "subscribe" in .muttrc. We'll see if that
| fixes the problem.

Use 'lists' to tell mutt you want a personal copy of replies and
'subscribe' if you don't.

Using 'subscribe' as a side-effect that some find annoying.  Instead
of showing your name in the 'From' column for messages you sent it
will show "To: debian-user".  If you don't like that behvavior then
set this option :
set index_format="%3C %Z %{%b%d} %-15.15F (%4c) %s"
#   ^^

The carets show how it differs from the default.  Read the manual to
see what the default is, what the differences mean and what other
options there are.

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VT switching resolution xfree86 XF86_Switch_VT_1 xmodmap

[xavier]

Hi,

recently I came across a problem ; 
no VT switching possible from X to console
no switching resolution possible 
no ctrl-alt-backspace possible.

no X control with hot keys, that is.

I'm using a custom dvorak map that i load at each startx.


after STFW (nothing appeared), i started 
playing with  :

xmodmap, xkeycaps,
setxkbmap -option -option ctrl:nocaps
setxkbmap -print
xkbcomp
xprop
xlsclient
xwininfo
xmodmap -pke


I found that I was missing
some bindings in X :

keycode 0x43 =  F1  XF86_Switch_VT_1 F1
keycode 0x44 =  F2  XF86_Switch_VT_2F2
keycode 0x45 =  F3  XF86_Switch_VT_3
keycode 0x46 =  F4  XF86_Switch_VT_4
keycode 0x47 =  F5  XF86_Switch_VT_5
keycode 0x48 =  F6  XF86_Switch_VT_6
keycode 0x49 =  F7  XF86_Switch_VT_7
keycode 0x4A =  F8  XF86_Switch_VT_8F8
keycode 0x4B =  F9  XF86_Switch_VT_9F9
keycode 0x4C =  F10 XF86_Switch_VT_10   F10
keycode 0x5F =  F11 XF86_Switch_VT_11   F11
keycode 0x60 =  F12 XF86_Switch_VT_12   F12
keycode 0x70 =  slash XF86_Ungrab
keycode 0x3F =  asterisk XF86_ClearGrab
keycode 0x52 =  minus XF86_Prev_VMode
keycode 0x56 =  plus XF86_Next_VMode


previously I had :

< keycode 0x43 =F1  F1
< keycode 0x44 =F2
< keycode 0x45 =F3
< keycode 0x46 =F4
< keycode 0x47 =F5
< keycode 0x48 =F6
< keycode 0x49 =F7
< keycode 0x4A =F8  F8
< keycode 0x4B =F9  F9
< keycode 0x4C =F10 F10
< keycode 0x5F =F11 F1
< keycode 0x60 =F12 F12



I never had them before (my xmodmap is in cvs).

I'm not sure what was the original cause.

Well, now it works well with this.

I'm posting here just in case someone has the same problem, I believe i saw 
some bugs that might be related.

bye


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How do I show filesystem?

[disciple]

Is there a command to show what filesystem that I'm using? ... ie ext2,ext3?


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hpijs installed but my driver not in list

[Michael Bernhard Sørensen]

Hi there.

I'm new to debian. I came from Suse and, latest, gentoo, but I got tired
of waiting for compiling EVERYTHING. ;-)

I've installed foomatic-db-hpijs(I presume that it's the right package)
to make my hp photosmart 7150 working:

# aptitude install foomatic-db-hpijs

I restarts cupsys, but the driver is not in the list, only 2 photosmart
printers.

What am i doing wrong? I've found a XML file 
/usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-PhotoSmart_7150.xml. Has that
file something to do with it?

Thanks in advance

Michael, Denmark.



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Re: 3.0r1 vs 3.0r2

[Florian Ernst]

Hello!

On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 11:00:40AM -0400, Thomas S. Atkins wrote:
> I have the r1 cd set. I noticed that a r2 is available. I have not installed
> Debian yet. what is the difference between the two and is it worth getting
> the r2 before I install Debian?

You can find infos about the differences at "Debian GNU/Linux 3.0
updated (r2)" .

Yes, it is definitely worth getting r2 in some way. Either download
the updated CD(s) or proceed as follows:

If the box(es) you are going to install Debian on will have some sort
of net access you can simply just install r1 and then get all security
updates, please see "4.2 Execute a security update" in the "Securing
Debian Manual" at

as well as "Security update protected by a firewall" at
.

HTH,
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because it transfers my UT2004 cd in its entireity in about 2 minutes.
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Re: document archiving w/ scanner

[Andrew Perrin]

Hey Martin-

I use an Epson SU1640 Office, which includes a document feeder and can be
connected via either USB or SCSI.  It works fine under debian, using the
SANE backends, although the one put out by epson (the "epkowa" driver)
works better than the epson one included with SANE.  I wrote a simple
script to turn documents into PDF's; it's not exactly perfect, but it does
the job: http://www.unc.edu/home/aperrin/tips/src/pdfscan-pl.txt

Best,
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On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, martin f krafft wrote:

> I am drowning in paperwork and have decided to digitalise it all.
> A friend of mine has a HP scanner with automatic paperfeed capable
> of doing 15 pages/min. I don't need quite that much performance
> (though I would not complain), but I need to be able to do this in
> Linux. Moreover, the scanned documents should become PDFs or
> otherwise easily searchable, otherwise there is no point in the
> whole endeavour.
>
> Is anyone using scanners for document archiving? What software are
> you using? How well does it work? What scanner(s) can you recommend?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: 3.0r1 vs 3.0r2

[Jacob S.]

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:00:40 -0400
"Thomas S. Atkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have the r1 cd set. I noticed that a r2 is available. I have not
> installed Debian yet. what is the difference between the two and is it
> worth getting the r2 before I install Debian?

r2 is security updates to r1. If your machine is going to be connected
the internet or a large network, I would recommend using r2. However,
you don't have to buy the cds; you can upgrade over the internet. If you
have a dialup modem though, yea, you'll probably want to get r2 on CDs.

HTH,
Jacob

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Re: How do I show filesystem?

[Jacob S.]

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 11:29:27 -0400 (EDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is there a command to show what filesystem that I'm using? ... ie
> ext2,ext3?

Try a simple "mount" (no options) command. Or you could "cat /etc/mtab".

HTH,
Jacob

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Re: Novell Linux Resource Kit Offer

[Greg Folkert]

On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 09:59, GodMode wrote:
> hey,
> just recieved an email from a buddy of mine, thought people out there would
> like to check it out. its not spam.
> just a special offer from novell
> linux resource kit
> 
> http://www.novell.com/community/linux/order.php

It is closed. Done. No longer offered.

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Re: Dissapering SubDirectorys????

[Ralph Crongeyer]

Thanks Diego.
I wish it was that easy, but I'm root. Remember I also said this is
happening on the command line. It's not permissions.
>From the command line (as root) I can do "ls -l | more" and the
subdirectories don't show? However using "mc" (Midnight Commander) they
are visible?
Here's what's weird, when I delete some of the files (half of them,
3000 files or so) the subdirectorys show again via the command line and
FTP? Weird huh?

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks
Ralph

Diego Martínez Castañeda wrote:

  On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:35:15 -0400, Ralph Crongeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
Hi all,
I have a directory with allot of files and some subdirectories in it but
I can't see the directories at all via FTP or the command line, however
I can see them using "mc" (Midnight Commander)? Why???

  
  
you don't have assign right permissions to files and directories. execute this:

# chown -R ftp:ftp /path/to/dir
# find /path/to/dir -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; 
# find /path/to/dir -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; 

this would be enougth.

diego

  

Re: How do I show filesystem?

[Steve Mayer]

if you issue the `mount` command it will show you what each mounted filesystem is.

Steve

On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 11:29:27AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there a command to show what filesystem that I'm using? ... ie ext2,ext3?
> 
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Re: audio on DELL latitude d400 screwed up

[Uwe Dippel]

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 15:35:54 +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote:

> Installed testing on a DELL Latitude d400 with 2.6.6 kernel.
> Now audio is screwed up, though dmesg identifies the i810 correctly (??).

Sorted.
The screwed up thingy was the motherboard. After a swap everything is fine.

Thanks for the ideas sent to me !



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Re: recompiled kernel, now no framebuffer

[Paul Tsai]

Matt Yates wrote:
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7-win4lin root=/dev/hda1 ro hdc=scsi 
video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x317

Matt, thanx for that line, it finally works :)
Pau
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Strange Keyboard Behavior Modes

[Darren]

This is not strictly a debian question, as I had this same problem
under redhat 7 before I switched to Sarge.

There is some odd key combination that changes the way my keyboard
behaves.  I've noticed two distinct modes that it seems to get locked
into:

1) Totally Insane Capslock.  My capslock light will be OFF, but it
reacts not as if it's on, but as if it's now a SHIFTLOCK and on.  All
of my alpha characters are IN UPPERCASE and all of my numericals are
now symbols.  It seems as if ctrl-leftshift will *sometimes* get out
of this mode, but that doesn't appear to be what activates it (and I
have no idea what does!)

2) Sticky-Ctl-Alt.  This is a pretty nasty one.  It's hard to tell
it's activated, but it's as if I'm holding down both the ctrl and alt
keys.  I made this mistake of pressing backspace without realizing
this was on and lost my entire x session.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have I activated some sort of
accessability features or is my keyboard just horked?  I've tried
doing some googling for this, but haven't really been all that
successful.  I don't have a programmable keyboard, I can't imagine
that it's that.

Any ideas would be appreciated.


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Re: How do I show filesystem?

[c]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a command to show what filesystem that I'm using? ... ie ext2,ext3?

mount
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Re: Keeping a customized file from being updated during package upgrade

[Thomas Adam]

--- Ken Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> So, I had this bright idea to replace shutdown with a script that
> would take an additional parameter of the hostname of the system.  The
> script would then check the hostname given on the commandline against
> the hostname of the system it was being run on and only pass on the rest
> of the parameters to the real shutdown command if they matched.

You could just not be a klutz, of course. :)

> So, here is my question.  How can I make it so that if I upgrade the
> sysvinit package on a system, it will either just not touch the
> /sbin/shutdown file, or better yet, redirect the new /sbin/shutdown file
> to /sbin/shutdown.real instead?  Is that possible?

dpkg -i --force-confold /var/lib/info/dpkg/name_of_deb.deb

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Re: Dissapering SubDirectorys????

[Ralph Crongeyer]

OK OK OK..

I've lost my mind.. The problem is with my FTP client! When
there are to many files (not sure what the number is) it doesn't show
the subdirectorys. It's CoreFTP light's problem. The subdirectorys do
show up in the "ls -l | more" command. Sorry for my jumping the gun
everybody. :-(
I have however found that "ls -d" doesn't seem to be working for me?

Thanks
Ralph

Ralph Crongeyer wrote:

  
  
Thanks Diego.
I wish it was that easy, but I'm root. Remember I also said this is
happening on the command line. It's not permissions.
>From the command line (as root) I can do "ls -l | more" and the
subdirectories don't show? However using "mc" (Midnight Commander) they
are visible?
Here's what's weird, when I delete some of the files (half of them,
3000 files or so) the subdirectorys show again via the command line and
FTP? Weird huh?
  
Anyone got any ideas?
  
Thanks
Ralph
  
Diego Martínez Castañeda wrote:
  
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:35:15 -0400, Ralph Crongeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

  Hi all,
I have a directory with allot of files and some subdirectories in it but
I can't see the directories at all via FTP or the command line, however
I can see them using "mc" (Midnight Commander)? Why???


you don't have assign right permissions to files and directories. execute this:

# chown -R ftp:ftp /path/to/dir
# find /path/to/dir -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; 
# find /path/to/dir -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; 

this would be enougth.

diego

  
  
  

Re: hpijs installed but my driver not in list

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004, Michael Bernhard Sørensen wrote:
> I've installed foomatic-db-hpijs(I presume that it's the right package)
> to make my hp photosmart 7150 working:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/06/msg01939.html

PPDs available at www.linuxprinting.org will work.  Use the testing or
backported versions of the packages, the ones in stable are too old.

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Re: 3.0r1 vs 3.0r2

[Steve McIntyre]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>I have the r1 cd set. I noticed that a r2 is available. I have not installed
>Debian yet. what is the difference between the two and is it worth getting
>the r2 before I install Debian?

Each point release contains fixes to the stable distribution, mainly
security fixes. If you have r1, then you'll want to update to r2 (and
beyond, ideally) to pick up security fixes at least.

If you have a reasonable net connection, just install r1 and then
update from security.debian.org with apt. If you don't, you could
either replace your r1 CDs with r2 versions or (easier) get hold of an
r2 update CD. The update CDs contain just the changes needed to get to
r2 from a previous version of woody.

HTH...
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Re: Debian's javac vs Sun's new installation of j2sdk

[H. S.]

Apparently, _Michael B Allen_, on 07/09/04 04:50,typed:
Note a good way to setup the shell environment in X so you can run java
and javac on the commandline is to start the session manager through a
login shell by changing:
 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start
to read:
  exec -l $SHELL -c "$STARTUP"
People coming from RedHat will definately want to do this. Otherwise
shells don't initialize their environment by sourcing /etc/profile and
thus your exports will not be visible.

True .My gnome-terminal is able to see /etc/profile becuase I have made 
it to be a login shell. And when I ssh to the machine and open xterm, it 
doesn't know about /etc/ profile.

I will try what you mentioned, but I am also thinking about trying 
making a deb file.

thanks,
->HS
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Re: force check on boot

[Wayne Topa]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> /dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
> 
> I'm getting this every time I boot my system.  When I shut down, I do
> either exit or logout, and then manually shut down the laptop.  Laptop is
> a Dell c610.  How do I fix this?  How do I get the laptop to shutdown
> without me manually pushing the button?

To shutdown the system, as root type
shutdown -h now
that will power down the system after closing all open programs.

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Re: hpijs installed but my driver not in list

[bob parker]

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:46, Michael Bernhard Sørensen wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> I'm new to debian. I came from Suse and, latest, gentoo, but I got tired
> of waiting for compiling EVERYTHING. ;-)
>
> I've installed foomatic-db-hpijs(I presume that it's the right package)
> to make my hp photosmart 7150 working:
>
> # aptitude install foomatic-db-hpijs
>
> I restarts cupsys, but the driver is not in the list, only 2 photosmart
> printers.
>
> What am i doing wrong? I've found a XML file
> /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-PhotoSmart_7150.xml. Has that
> file something to do with it?

The 7150 is a fairly new printer, there are 3 of them in my extended family, 
all going well under various flavours of Redhat/Fedora. Maybe your drivers 
are not uptodate.

You can get the latest driver from:
   http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/
The latest is 1.6.1 and my experience is with 1.4.1 but I downloaded that 
compiled it following the instructions on the HP site and it just worked with 
no trouble at all on my HP 3350 which is a later cheaper device than the 7150.

You might also need some or all of these packages:
cupsomatic-ppd  
cupsys   
cupsys-bsd 
cupsys-client   
cupsys-driver-gimpprint
cupsys-pstoraster   
kdelibs3-cups 
libcupsys2
gimpprint-locales
libgimpprint1
libgnomeprint-bin 
libgnomeprint-data
libgnomeprint15

Installation instructions are at: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php

Trust this helps
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Re: Strange Keyboard Behavior Modes

[Paul Tsai]

Darren wrote:
This is not strictly a debian question, as I had this same problem
under redhat 7 before I switched to Sarge.
There is some odd key combination that changes the way my keyboard
behaves.  I've noticed two distinct modes that it seems to get locked
into:
1) Totally Insane Capslock.  My capslock light will be OFF, but it
reacts not as if it's on, but as if it's now a SHIFTLOCK and on.  All
of my alpha characters are IN UPPERCASE and all of my numericals are
now symbols.  It seems as if ctrl-leftshift will *sometimes* get out
of this mode, but that doesn't appear to be what activates it (and I
have no idea what does!)
2) Sticky-Ctl-Alt.  This is a pretty nasty one.  It's hard to tell
it's activated, but it's as if I'm holding down both the ctrl and alt
keys.  I made this mistake of pressing backspace without realizing
this was on and lost my entire x session.
Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Have I activated some sort of
accessability features or is my keyboard just horked?  I've tried
doing some googling for this, but haven't really been all that
successful.  I don't have a programmable keyboard, I can't imagine
that it's that.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
 

I have had the same situation with my linux, I figured it was due to my 
laptop hardware.  I re-installed sid and didn really have an issue with 
it since (although when I was in gnome it flicked back on for a little 
bit) could it be gnome related?

Paul
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BugMenot

[stan]

Yesterday on Slashdot there was a pointer to an article on improving
Mozilla, and Friefox with plugins. One of these was called BugMeNot, and is
supposed to provide "accounts" for sites susch as the New York Times that
require registration.

I followed the links on this, and fond a page that was supposed to install
it, but when I clicked on that button, I just got a single black page with
the work "false" in it.

Has anyone installed this sucsefully?

I;m runing Galeon 1.25 on an older "testing" machine.

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Problems with X11 fowarding in ssh on unstable machine

[stan]

I've got a new install of unstable, and I've changedd /etc/ssh/sshd_config
so thta the X11 line reads:

X11Forwarding yes

But when I ssh in, I still have no DISPLAy variable set. The machine I'm
ssh in from works for this on other machines. I've restartd the sshd task.

What else do I need to check ?

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apt-get update:"Dynamic MMap ran out of room"

[Jochen Demuth]

Hi, I have a problem with apt-get update.
When I only use stable sources everything is fine. But when I put stable 
and testing sources in my sources.list, then I get this error at the end 
of apt-get update:

Fetched 4329kB in 48s (89.4kB/s)
Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
E: Error occured while processing scsiadd (NewFileVer1)
E: Problem with MergeList 
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.stw-bonn.de_pub_mirror_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

I added this line to apt.conf, as suggested in 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=166758

APT::Cache-Limit=16777216;
But with the same result.
Any ideas?
Thank you
Jochen
PS: this is my sources.list:
deb ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/Linux/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/Linux/debian/ stable main non-free 
contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main 
contrib non-free

deb ftp://ftp.stw-bonn.de/pub/mirror/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.stw-bonn.de/pub/mirror/debian/ testing main non-free 
contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main 
contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
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Re: question about kernel 2.6

[Roberto Sanchez]

Bill Moseley wrote:
On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 01:20:06PM +0200, Pim Bliek wrote:
It is maybe harder in the beginning, but once you get used to it is
really easier in my opinion. Why? Because you can easily go back to
previously built kernels; you still have the .debs in /usr/src, so it
makes it rather flexible.

Here's my kernel building complaint:
What I don't like about the Debian way (although that's all I use) is
that it is slow.  If I make one small change in my kernel config or
patch some bit of kernel code then I need to rebuild the entire
kernel.  Like other software, I'd like to be able to just modify some
file and run make and make install and have it smart enough to only
rebuild what's needed (a bit tough if I modify a kernel config) -- but
that would be my wish.
I had a similar situation with the OP trying to get some hardware
working and I spent a good part of a day waiting for the kernel to
recompile over and over.
But, once I get the kernel figured out it's nice to have that .deb
built.
Add
do_clean := NO
to your /etc/kernel-pkg.conf
Then, it won't clean the tree prior to starting a make.  Now you can do
it the Debian way and not worry about wasting too much time.
-Roberto Sanchez


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initrd trouble with underlying /dev

[Barak Pearlmutter]

I've got a machine that has been running Debian for a long time.  Its
root partition is software raid0.  It uses a custom kernel, 2.4.22,
which does not use initrd.  Instead all necessary modules for booting
are built into the kernel: hardware drivers, md, etc.  The kernel is
configured to mounts devfs at boot time.  I would like to upgrade the
machine to a stock Debian kernel package.  This almost works: the
stock 2.6.6 kernel and its configured initrd detects the hardware
properly, seems to have the right hardware and md modules in the
initrd image, etc.  Things are set up to mount devfs (see below).  The
problem seems to be that as the system boots, at some point before
devfs is mounted but after the root partition is, /dev, which will
ultimately be shadowed by devfs, is missing something important.  In
particular, it would seem to be missing /dev/console.  Obviously I
could mknod it, and maybe look in the initrd image and mknod any other
device nodes hanging out in there.  But I can't figure out any way to
get my fingers on the "real" /dev, since it is shadowed by devfs and
devfs won't unmount!

The fact that the machine is in Albuquerque and I am in Ireland, and
the machine is used as a server for a number of projects, doesn't
help.  I can ask someone in Albuquerque to do stuff on the console,
but I'd rather have it be minimal and foolproof rather than
exploratory and risky.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
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OTHER INFO

$ uname --kernel-name --kernel-release
Linux 2.4.22

$ cat /etc/default/devfsd
# mount point for devfs
MOUNTPOINT=/dev
# mount on boot?
MOUNT=yes

$ df /
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md/0113424288  99712476   7950112  93% /

$ cat /proc/mounts
rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
/dev/root / ext3 rw 0 0
none /dev devfs rw 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
/dev/hda3 /boot ext3 rw 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0

$ egrep -i DEVFS /boot/config-2.4.22
CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y
CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT=y
# CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set


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Re: printer icon

[Bill & Shirley Borel]

Have lost the printer icon on the tool 
bar.
 
William [EMAIL PROTECTED],com

Re: printer icon

[Bill & Shirley Borel]

Have lost printer icon on the toolbar
 
William Borel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Cite for print-to-postscript exploit in Mozilla?

[Alan Shutko]

Ian Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> http://www.imc.org/ietf-822/old-archive1/msg01346.html
>
> Is probably what is being refered to...

But it's not clear that there's any way for a web page to inject
postscript into Mozilla's print-to-ps output.  If there isn't, it's
just as safe as Xprint, also assuming there's no exploit in Xprint.

That message is really about sending arbitrary Postscript files
through interpreters.  Mozilla doesn't produce arbitrary postscript
with unsafe operators, unless there's an unpublished exploit to make
it do so.

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Autocomplete

[Paul Tsai]

Is any familiar with the console feature that narrows the tab 
completion.  For instance if you type tar and hit tab, it will only 
return the valid files with appropriate extensions, not every file in 
the directory.  I believe it was a feature in Knoppix but I am not sure.

Paul
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Re: apt-get update:"Dynamic MMap ran out of room"

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 06:33:07PM +0200, Jochen Demuth wrote:

| E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room

| I added this line to apt.conf, as suggested in 
| http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=166758
| 
| APT::Cache-Limit=16777216;
| 
| But with the same result.
| 
| Any ideas?

APT::Cache-Limit 16777216;

(use a space, not an equals sign)
It appears that the command-line parameter uses a slightly different
syntax than the config file.

-D

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Re: m4a (mpeg4) audio console player

[Mikael Magnusson]

On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 09:10:25AM -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> Are there any mp4 (m4a) console players
> in debian?
> 
> Lance
> 

Faad should be able to play your MP4 audio files, but it's not in Debian.
But Faad, mplayer and some other packages are available from
Christian Marillat's "Unofficial Debian Packages" [1].

[1] http://hpisi.nerim.net/

Mikael Magnusson


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Re: document archiving w/ scanner

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.07.09.1752 +0200]:
> I use an Epson SU1640 Office, which includes a document feeder and
> can be connected via either USB or SCSI.  It works fine under
> debian, using the SANE backends, although the one put out by epson
> (the "epkowa" driver) works better than the epson one included
> with SANE.  I wrote a simple script to turn documents into PDF's;
> it's not exactly perfect, but it does the job:
> http://www.unc.edu/home/aperrin/tips/src/pdfscan-pl.txt

Since I assume PNM files to be graphic files, `convert`ing them and
`ps2pdf`ing them will result in PDFs storing image data. These PDFs
are not going to be searchable. Can you confirm this?

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Re: document archiving w/ scanner

[Jeff Smith]

Another option  is the HP OfficeJet 7130.  I have one, it
can be used either with USB or network (with card), and is
one of  their all-in one.  Fully supported by HP on Linux
(Open Source, even), both scanning and printing.  Have had
no problems at all with it, works great.


I don't have your neat script - wiill be checking that out
(thanks).

jeff

Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ---
> Hey Martin-
> 
> I use an Epson SU1640 Office, which includes a document
> feeder and can be
> connected via either USB or SCSI.  It works fine under
> debian, using the
> SANE backends, although the one put out by epson (the
> "epkowa" driver)
> works better than the epson one included with SANE.  I
> wrote a simple
> script to turn documents into PDF's; it's not exactly
> perfect, but it does
> the job:
> http://www.unc.edu/home/aperrin/tips/src/pdfscan-pl.txt
> 
> Best,
> Andy
> 
>
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> 
> 
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, martin f krafft wrote:
> 
> > I am drowning in paperwork and have decided to
> digitalise it all.
> > A friend of mine has a HP scanner with automatic
> paperfeed capable
> > of doing 15 pages/min. I don't need quite that much
> performance
> > (though I would not complain), but I need to be able to
> do this in
> > Linux. Moreover, the scanned documents should become
> PDFs or
> > otherwise easily searchable, otherwise there is no
> point in the
> > whole endeavour.
> >
> > Is anyone using scanners for document archiving? What
> software are
> > you using? How well does it work? What scanner(s) can
> you recommend?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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Re: Autocomplete

[Philipp Weis]

On 09 Jul 2004, Paul Tsai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is any familiar with the console feature that narrows the tab
> completion.  For instance if you type tar and hit tab, it will only
> return the valid files with appropriate extensions, not every file in
> the directory.  I believe it was a feature in Knoppix but I am not sure.

Just type "source /etc/bash_completion" into your shell oder add this
line to your ~/.bashrc startup file to enables auto completion.


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2.6.7 boot problem

[Yohann Desquerre]

Hi all,
i tried to boot my debian on a 2.6.7 that i just compile ( reiserfs 
compile as module, my root fs is in reisefs), i installed lvm2 and make 
an initrd image with :

mkinitrd -o kernel-2.6.7.img 2.6.7
i got this messages :
Cpio : /etc/modprobe.conf : no suche file or directory
Cpio : /lib/modules/modprobe.conf : No suche file or directory

and when i ttry to boot this one :
VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)

any ideas to solve that ?
Thanks

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Re: question about kernel 2.6

[Bill Moseley]

On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 01:04:13PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> do_clean := NO
> 
> to your /etc/kernel-pkg.conf
> 
> Then, it won't clean the tree prior to starting a make.  Now you can do
> it the Debian way and not worry about wasting too much time.

Well, that will be a huge help!  I suspect I need to use the same
build line, that is I need to build the exact same version so
make-kpkg doesn't complain about version mismatch in the changes file.

What happens with .config changes?  Do I need to make clean then, or
is it smart enough to force a rebuild?  It would be cool if it knew
what needs to be recompiled based on what changes in .config

Thanks,.


> 
> -Roberto Sanchez



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