Sarge Kernel 2.6 and (K)dm)

2004-05-21 Thread Björn Wolter
Ich habe installed a current snapshot of sarge
the i installed the kernel 2.6.4 image
now i cant boot directly into X.
I use kdm as the login manager...
kdm.log and XFree86*.log tells me that he has no core pointer, also he 
cannot open /dev/input/mice.

strange is.. when i log in as root, and start kde with /etc/init.d/kdm 
start, he runs kdm and no errors like no core pointer appears.

i have reconfigured the device section in XF86Config-4 to /dev/psaux and 
/dev/input/mice -> all the same result.

when i start debian with kernel 2.4.x kdm works well...
so it must be problem with kernel 2.6
my mouse device section looks like this
..
 Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Protocol""ImPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
..
has someone a tip for me to run X (kdm) with kernel 2.6
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Startup: give root password for maintenance

2004-05-21 Thread Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro)
Hello,

I installed new kernel which works fine but when i do a reboot i also
get in the upstart process:

Give root password for maintenance
(or type control-D for normal startup)

Of course i press control-D but how can i remove this ?
I want that the computer can automatically reboot without asking this
question.

Thnx.
Phil.
 



lazy programming tool

2004-05-21 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi,
I have a slow dialup so I created a script to get the deb's I need
without doing an 'apt-get update'. Maybe it will help someone else.

--get_old_app.sh PKGNAME
apt-get -y --print-uris install $1 2>/dev/null|grep http|
awk '{print $1}'| cut -d"/" -f4-|cut -d\' -f1|while read line; do
echo $line;
URL3="$line"
URL4=$(basename $URL3)
URL1="http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/";
i=0
done="no"
while [ "$done" == "no" ]; do 
echo -n "$i ";
URL2=$(date +"%Y/%m/%d/" --date="$i day ago")
echo -n "["; 
wget -c $URL1$URL2$URL3 
STAT=$?  
echo "]"; 
if [ "$STAT" == "0" ]; then 
done="yes" 
echo moving $URL4 
mv $URL4 /var/cache/apt/archives 
STAT=$?  
echo $STAT 
if [ "$STAT" == "0" ]; then 
done="yes" 
else 
done="no" 
fi 
URL5=$(echo $URL4|cut -d"_" -f1) 
apt-get -y install $URL5 
STAT2=$?  
echo "status $STAT2" 
else 
if [ "$i" == "20" ]; then 
done="yes" 
fi 
fi 
i=$(( $i + 1)) 
done 
done

-Kev


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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread Tim Connors
Brett Carrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Thu, 20 May 2004 21:39:35 +:
> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:25:24PM -0400, Bojan Baros wrote:
> > And about the idea that Bill Gates floated out there, about solving a
> > computer puzzle that would require 10 seconds or so of CPU time to send
> > the email...  Spammers already use distributed computing (some computers
> > are doing it willingly, others not quite so) to send out spam.  This would
> > not create a huge problem if you have plenty of CPU cycles to spare.
> 
> Gates' idea is being put to use every day on this very mailing list.
> Notice those GnuPG signatures lots of us seem to use? Try assigning higher
> "non-spam" scores to GnuPG signed messages.

So spammers will simply write their own pgp signatures.

After all, PGP only tells you that the person who signed the message
was the one who wrote it. Unfortunately, PGP doesn't come with an
evil-bit.

Reemember, anything the anti-spam community can do, the spammers can
do as well. We are very much fighting a losing battle, and only buy
(with lots of effort if you want to change the way email works) small
amounts of time.

The only solution is education, but unforuntalely, 50% of the
population are just too god damn fucking stupid to get it - witness
the spam for some kind of drug with plenty of spelling errors, that
advertises that the business is being shut down by the drugs
administration, so get in quick. Who could possibly be so fucking
stupid to respond to an ad like that? Unfortunately, enough people to
make the whole business profitable.

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Re: /dev/md0 and udev

2004-05-21 Thread John L Fjellstad
Richard Weil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm running Sarge with a 2.6.5 kernel. I'm trying to
> create a RAID 5 array of three disks (though for
> initial setup I'm only using two of three). When I
> reboot, udev does not re-create my /dev/md0 device, so
> the RAID array won't start. Any suggestions?

udev won't create the md? devices because the RAID never notifies
udev/sysfs about it.  The just have a thread about on the udev mailing
list.  You need to create the md? devices manually by putting it in the
/etc/udev/links.conf file

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Re: Samba and network printing

2004-05-21 Thread John L Fjellstad
CW Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Now, the smb user is my guest user. I'm not sure why it tries to log in
>
> You may be having your account mapped to you guest user.
> IIRC the things that are required are:
>   1. User is in the printer admin group
>   2. User has a valid smb password/account
>   3. User must be able to write to the *nix directory where
>  samba stores the printer driver info.

But I don't understand what my account has anything to do with it, since
I'm logging in as root, and root does have rights to the printer driver
directory. 

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Re: font path issue

2004-05-21 Thread Johan Renström
Hi again!

Thanks for all the replys and thanks for the encourageing words Richard! A 
major part of the problem seems to have been a missing fonts.alias file in 
the /usr/local/Wolfram/Mathematica/5.0/SystemFiles/Fonts/Type1 directory. I 
found a post on that in the FAQ on the Wolfram site a while ago, but I didn't 
understood what it was and besides it was under the 4.2 issues. The file 
containd a mapping from adobe-helvetica to bitstream-swiss and from 
adobe-times to adobe-utopia. A

xlsfonts |grep helvetica (or times)

shows that I have none of them installed on them systeme before I run 
Mathematica and apparently thats the fonts mathematica whanted. I still 
think, however, that it's quite strange that it doesn't substitute to 
courier, or whatever, and that it's even more strange that the fonts 
disapeared before I added the alias file.

However, Mathematica seems to work quite ok now, though it still complains 
abit about some missing fonts (times weight plain, slant plain(?) and 
Symbolic i think), so I think it'll have to do for now. If I'll have any 
further success I'll let you know!

regards
Johan
Ps. No Thomas, I don't run a font server as far as I know! Thanks for your 
letter, it didn't find it's way to the list though (strange)!


tisdagen den 18 maj 2004 11.42 skrev richard lyons:
> On Tuesday 18 May 2004 05:15, Johan Renström wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Since my two last posts were a bit to boring to be read I thought
> > I'd do a last desperate try from another pint of view.
>
> I thought it was quite interesting - and was waiting to hear the
> answers.  I had a chancce to play with an adapted mathematica a
> couple of years ago (on windoze) when I did an Open Uni course in
> physics.  I was impressed, and regretted that it was time-limited.
> But I digress...
>
> > I have a program that is shipped with some fonts. But, when I add
> > the path to these fonts at the bottom in the XF86Config-4 fontpath
> > section, Operas menus disapeare and the login screen in KDE has no
> > text.
>
> Since nobody else answered, I'll make a suggestion from ignorance:
> Are there fonts with the same names as the ones those apps are trying
> to use?  Your additions to the fontpath might be causing them to
> access specialist mathematica fonts by mistake.  Could be a question
> of order in the path if so.  Or a shell script to switch the path
> when mathematica runs - but I have no idea how you limit the scope of
> that to the environment of one app.
>
> [...]
>
> > sorry for the bad English!
>
> I'm just glad I'm not trying to reply in Swedish - or whatever.



Re: Another shell scripting question

2004-05-21 Thread Tim Connors
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Fri, 21 May 2004 01:39:55 +0200:
> 
> --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> also sprach Martin McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.05.20.2126 +=
> 0200]:
> > Is it just more efficient in resources to use plain #! /bin/sh
> > rather than bash?
> 
> surely not. /bin/sh is generally linked to bash (... by default,
> that is).

That's a rather Linux centric answer (and doesn't even apply to
busybox like installations where /bin/sh is minimally posix-compliant).

It's also possibly wrong, because when in sh mode (ie, invoked with $0
of "sh"), bash would disable certain features that could well lead to
a faster executing code (probably not by much, if anything).

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Re: OT Shell tricks: I'll kill you later

2004-05-21 Thread Martin Dickopp
"Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have few ugly shell scripts which do a lot of WHOIS queries, which
> I've found are prone to hang for a long time.  The simple thing to do is
> to hunt for whois queries, then, and periodically kill them:
>
> while sleep 600
> do
> ps aux | awk '/[w]hois/ {print $2}' | xargs kill
> done
>
> Of course, this is a bit indiscriminate:  it kills any WHOIS process
> that happens to be running at the moment.

Not only that; it kills any process which has "whois" in its command
line.  You might want to look into pidof and/or killall.

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Re: Startup: give root password for maintenance

2004-05-21 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Philippe Dhont   (Sea-ro) (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I installed new kernel which works fine but when i do a reboot i also
> get in the upstart process:
> 
> Give root password for maintenance
> (or type control-D for normal startup)
> 
> Of course i press control-D but how can i remove this ?
> I want that the computer can automatically reboot without asking this
> question.

Normally this happens if the system boots into single user mode
(runlevel 1 or s). You should try to reboot and explicitly select
another runlevel (e.g. type "Linux 2" at the lilo prompt). If that
works, change the default runlevel. Check /etc/inittab and your
bootloader configuration (the append="..." line if you use lilo).

best regards
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Re: Shuttle SB61G2

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, May 19, 2004 at 06:39:55AM +0200, Alexander Tillmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> does somebody know if the Shuttle SB61G2 is completely supported by Debian?

My preferred solution to this problem is:

  - Get the latest Knoppix release.  Yes, 3.4 is out ;-)

  - Get my "system-info" script at:
  twiki.iwethey.org/Main/LinuxSystemInfoScript

  - Run same, and save output.

Look at what hardware is/isn't supported, and what configurations are
specified.


Tends to simplify things greatly.


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Re: Ctrl+Alt+F1 not working?

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 08:57:33AM -0400, Norman Walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm running unstable and after some upgrade a few weeks ago, I noticed that
> Ctrl+Alt+F1 will no longer get me to the console if I'm logged in (it will
> From the GDM login screen).

Are you remapping keys?
 
> Do I have to frob some setting in Gnome or something?

Oh...  GNOME.  Now you tell us...

OK, biting sarcasm aside, not AFAIK.

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Re: Mail Delivery (failure inquirie@rishashay.com)

2004-05-21 Thread inquirie
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Re: Startup: give root password for maintenance

2004-05-21 Thread Mark Par
On Fri, 21 May 2004 09:25:57 +0200, Philippe Dhont   (Sea-ro) wrote:
> I installed new kernel which works fine but when i do a reboot i also
> get in the upstart process:
> 
> Give root password for maintenance
> (or type control-D for normal startup)
> 
> Of course i press control-D but how can i remove this ?
> I want that the computer can automatically reboot without asking this
> question.

I only get this prompt whenever there is something wrong with my
system and it needs superuser privileges to fix it.

I believe the only way you can remove this is by fixing the
problem. Can you give the full log as to what happened? Maybe
tail -50 /var/log/messages

would be useful to diagnose your problem.


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Re: Escputil --raw-device and CUPS

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Thursday 20 May 2004 03:08, Kristian Niemi wrote:
> Nick Croft wrote:
[...]
> > $ escuptil -i -r /dev/lp0  is
> > 'Cannot parse output from printer'.
[...]

> I wonder if it could be as easy as telling escputil that you have a
> new model of epson printer (`new' means newer than Stylus Color 740
> ...), i.e. add "--new" or "-u" to the command. I get a similar
> error as you do if I leave that out.

Wow! I had given up on escputil with my Epson Stylus C62.  That does 
it. Thanks, Kristian.

You learn something good every day on debian-user.

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RE: Escputil --raw-device and CUPS

2004-05-21 Thread Jens Simmoleit
> I don't think CUPS has that much to do with anything escputil does. At
> least I've thought that it communicates directly with the printer, not
> through CUPS.
>

If that's true you might also check if this has something to do with the
bios settings. AFAIK all modern printers (from 3-5 years back) use
bidirectional settings to communicate. Maybe it's turned off?

So you can send the signals to the printer but it won't come back with any
answers because it can't???

Just a thought :-)
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Re: gdm root user startup with many windows

2004-05-21 Thread Thomas Adam
 --- lunardancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi, 

Hello - 
 
> I've checked  /root/.* folders, but did not find such applications to

Why are you running X11 as root? Sheesh, this is _stupid_.

> load when startup.   I think it might be some zombies or sth. left in
> xsession , but don't know how to fix it.  I rebooted machine, but every
> time same thing happen. I changed to log in with another user, strange
> windows disappear.

Depends on the window manager, which you failed to mention. Are you sure
these programs are not listed in ~/.xsession ?

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Re: logical drive limitation

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:57:13AM -0700, Ken Guo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Can you please tell me the drive size limitation of debian Linux. We
> have a customer who create a 2.8 TB logical drive, but the debian
> Linux host only see 0.34TB.

Google for "linux large disk support" or "large file support".  Or just
ask Google.  IIRC, they've more than 2 TiB total storage.

Depending on your hardware, you may need to enable a number of kernel
parameters at build time.  You can find these in
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help (typically).  Your own
kernel's build options, if a stock Debian kernel, are in your /boot
directory.

32 bit hardware doesn't natively address sizes > 2 GiB, but a number of
large file / filesystem support mechanisms exist to support very large
filesystems.  The filesystem itself is likely a significant factor here.

Note that some limitations may be imposed by BIOS, though once GNU/Linux
itself has booted, these shouldn't be a concern.


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Re: Massive Printer Problems

2004-05-21 Thread Joachim Fahnenmueller
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 05:19:56PM -0700, Clyde Wilson wrote:
> I have installed Woody rev 1 and have not been able to setup my Epson 
> C42UX.  I've read the Debian reference manual and How-to's until I think 
> I'm going blind.  Do you have any suggestions?

Find a good collection of printer drivers (not open source, though) at
http://www.turboprint.de

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Re: Ctrl+Alt+F1 not working?

2004-05-21 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 21 May 2004, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 08:57:33AM -0400, Norman Walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I'm running unstable and after some upgrade a few weeks ago, I noticed that
> > Ctrl+Alt+F1 will no longer get me to the console if I'm logged in (it will
> > From the GDM login screen).
> 
> Are you remapping keys?
>  
> > Do I have to frob some setting in Gnome or something?
> 
> Oh...  GNOME.  Now you tell us...
> 
> OK, biting sarcasm aside, not AFAIK.
> 
> Peace.
> 

I started a thread on this a few weeks ago. The consensus was that if
you are using xmodmap the above command doesn't work. I have to live
with it at present.

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Re: Samba and network printing

2004-05-21 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya john

On Thu, 20 May 2004, John L Fjellstad wrote:

> CW Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> Now, the smb user is my guest user. I'm not sure why it tries to log in
> >
> > You may be having your account mapped to you guest user.
> > IIRC the things that are required are:
> > 1. User is in the printer admin group

doesn't matter ... lpd or other printer daemons take care of it for the
users including root

> > 2. User has a valid smb password/account

if its not working, how do you know its valid?

> > 3. User must be able to write to the *nix directory where
> >samba stores the printer driver info.

the /home/smb_user  should show up in network neighborhood in the windoze
box  and you should be able to drag-n-drop files into the
linuxbox:/home/smb_user directory

> But I don't understand what my account has anything to do with it, since
> I'm logging in as root, and root does have rights to the printer driver
> directory. 

joining in the middle ... lets see

am assuming, "root" on the linux box can print to the printer connected
to it 
- root can print tothe local printer
- root can print to the printer on the other linux box

if not... fix the /etc/printcap on your local linux box

lp|HP-LaserJet:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd:\
:pw:132:\
:fq:\
:sh:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/local/sbin/printers/somefilter-program:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp-log:

"if" input filter is needed for print web pages to
an regular ( non-postscript ) printer

root# lpr /etc/printcap

the linux box with the printer that has the printer connected
to it would have in its /etc/printcap

   lp|HP-LserJet:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:rm=LP_ServerIP:

# make sure "ping LP_ServerIP" works

root# lpr /etc/printcap
- you should have a hard copy

if you want to be able to print postscript files
( web pages from the web browers, ) make sure oyu 
can manually print the tiger.ps files

lpr /path/tiger.ps

be prepared to abort the reams of paper spewing out
in which case oyu need magicfilter or apsfilter or xxx

now for samba ( windows users )
- lets assume the userID is "smb_user"

on the linux box that has the printer connected to it
a) root# smbpasswd smb_user

b) configure /etc/samba/smb.conf
- make sure the permissions is correct ..
- long laundry list of files and directories to check
( see the samba printing howto )
- run the samba test tools to check the syntax of smb.conf

c) PrinterManager
- add new Network printer
- it should ask for your passwd you used for smbpasswd
- Print TestPage

d) take a pepsi break and start from step 0 ... or have a beer
   to celebrate

== and if one printer is in NewYork and the other printer is in London,
   now you can send documents to each other ... ( free fax )
- but secure the silly boxes first so only *you* can print 
to the remote printer ...

c ya
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Re: Newbie Needs Printer Advice

2004-05-21 Thread Joris Huizer
Clyde Wilson wrote:
I have a printer that hooks up to my USB port.  If I do a  'echo "OK" > 
/dev/usb/lp0' I don't get any output.  Is there something I need to do 
to get the right device?


You can find information about all sorts of printers at 
http://linuxprinting.org/
Also, make sure you have the usb printer module in the kernel enabled 
(search by using modconf, in the usb section (in my 2.6.6 custom kernel 
it's under kernel/drivers/usb/class, called usblp)

HTH,
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Re: Newbie Needs Printer Advice

2004-05-21 Thread welly hartanto

--- Clyde Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a printer that hooks up to my USB port.  If I
> do a  'echo "OK" > 
> /dev/usb/lp0' I don't get any output.  Is there
> something I need to do 
> to get the right device?
> 

Are you using udev ? which kernel is your system
running ?
Several days ago, this happen to me.
The solusion is : cd /dev
  /sbin/MAKEDEV usb
I'm running sid kernel 2.6.5.


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Re: Sarge Kernel 2.6 and (K)dm)

2004-05-21 Thread Nico De Ranter
I had the same problem after upgrading the kernel to 2.6.
Mouse was gone completely in X, no way to get it back. I recompiled
the kernel and everything works fine now.  I'm not sure which 
change did the trick (I made a lot of changes to the kernel config).

Nico


On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 09:30:35AM +0200, Björn Wolter wrote:
> Ich habe installed a current snapshot of sarge
> the i installed the kernel 2.6.4 image
> 
> now i cant boot directly into X.
> I use kdm as the login manager...
> 
> kdm.log and XFree86*.log tells me that he has no core pointer, also he 
> cannot open /dev/input/mice.
> 
> strange is.. when i log in as root, and start kde with /etc/init.d/kdm 
> start, he runs kdm and no errors like no core pointer appears.
> 
> i have reconfigured the device section in XF86Config-4 to /dev/psaux and 
> /dev/input/mice -> all the same result.
> 
> when i start debian with kernel 2.4.x kdm works well...
> 
> so it must be problem with kernel 2.6
> 
> my mouse device section looks like this
> ..
>  Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
> Option "Protocol""ImPS/2"
> Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice
> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> ..
> 
> has someone a tip for me to run X (kdm) with kernel 2.6
> 
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problems with smbclient & tar option - file size limitation?

2004-05-21 Thread Jens Simmoleit
Hi List,

I'm setting up a small backup script using the smbclient command with the
tar option. The machine that needs to be backuped is a W2K-Server.

I thought it might be a good idea to test if the backup will work properly,
to my surprise it won't.

smbclient //192.168.1.150/hhwwwroot "" -N -Tc
/home/backmeup/hiphopde/hhwwwroot.tar * > /backmeup/overview/hhwwwroot.txt


I get the following error message(s) (there are more files, I just copied
the  last lines):

Error writing to tar file - File too large
  4639 (  266.5 kb/s) \media\FFDF5778-F8ED-425B-BFB6E52A97B8B1B3
Error writing to tar file - File too large
 29311 ( 1363.0 kb/s) \media\FFED9CDC-389D-4DB0-9E6E7B52B7669449
Error writing to tar file - File too large
 20892 (  600.1 kb/s) \media\FFF00E5E-FFA4-4AE0-B61E80A68AA0496B
  2519 (   91.1 kb/s) \media\FFF17718-A7AF-4766-BFB3C44EF08983E2
Error writing to tar file - File too large
 29403 (  897.3 kb/s) \media\FFF18AE4-C5DC-4E6E-B34A453ABD98B9C6
Error writing to tar file - File too large
  3893 (  190.1 kb/s) \media\FFF41F25-9987-45D8-AAB677621EA506DA
  2556 (   56.7 kb/s) \media\FFF66A50-18F6-4CD0-B58A5C0E088447EA
Error writing to tar file - File too large
 23281 (  909.4 kb/s) \media\FFFE2B1E-5DA8-4BBE-AC8A2292CFC67F15
   772 (   10.9 kb/s) \media\gewinn_01.jpg
Error writing to tar file - File too large
Didn't get entire file. size=228352, nread=65520
Error writing tar file - File too large
228352 ( 8259.3 kb/s) \media\mantelbogen.pdf
   185 (185000.0 kb/s) \Unbenannt1.cfm
tar: dumped 64207 files and directories
Total bytes written: 2404435456 <--- about 2,5 Gigs

My questions would be:

1. Are there any limitations to the size of TAR-files (I'm pretty sure that
should NOT be the case! Am I wrong?)?
2. May this be related to the length of the copied files themselves (because
it says File too large)?

I'm a little bit confused, it works with smaller data on other
shares so I guess there IS a limitation, but why? Using tar with
tapes and such, there isn't and shouldn't be one?

Thanks for the help,
Simmel


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Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:06:30PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > * Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:03:18:20:05:40-0800] scribed:
> >> Your best bet if you don't want to reinstall is watch closely after
> >> sarge goes stable for a new unstable fork off to testing, and move
> >> when they fork.
> >
> > How, exactly, does one go about ``watch closely ... for a new unstable
> > fork off to testing'' ???  I've seen reference to this, but I do not
> > know how one can know when that situation obtains.
> 
> After sarge goes stable, a couple months after that a new testing
> branch will fork off of unstable.

Not a couple of months; immediately. Actually, it won't fork off
unstable either; it'll start as a copy of stable and progress smoothly
on from there taking packages from unstable as they're ready, the same
way it did last time.

> >> Sometime before Dec 31, 2003 if people get moving on it was the last I
> >> heard.
> >
> > 2003?
> 
> The last time people were trying to put a date on the release said
> Dec 31, 2003.

Only correct if you don't read between the lines on -devel-announce.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/03/msg00026.html

It's true that I (quite deliberately) didn't put an explicit date on
that to avoid getting quoted too widely on Slashdot or whatever and
being held to the date, and that the social contract stuff has at best
pushed it back by a month or two; but anyone reading the message should
be able to work out what it meant.

Cheers,

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Re: USB card readers that work?

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 15:52, Walter Tautz wrote:
> I would imagine almost anything would work but I'd like
> a list of models people have used with debian and which
> they may have also used with their digital cameras. My intent
[...]
As far as I can see, anything does work.  I have an Olympus C220, 
which happens to be one that is not supported by gphoto etc 
(apparently on account of a coding error by Olympus IIRC), but I 
simply pop the smart-media cards into any card reader that is around 
and read it, write it or whatever (In fact, I also use them for data 
transfer from country to country or from computer to computer).  

I use the cheapest available reader, a blue blob called "PC-line". I 
recollect it cost 7 GBP.  I also use one of the same brand for 
SD cards.  The only problem is the need to reboot when switching 
between types of media (though I am told the usb can be reset without 
rebooting - I forget how and have been too lazy to look it up).  

I have never had any problem with the cards being used in the camera 
after altering their contents.  You can, for example, put another 
directory containing data on the card, photograph onto the card, copy 
the data and photos off and wipe the card, leaving or removing the 
camera's directories, and it will still be read and written to by the 
camera.  I have noticed that the camera cannot read jpg files written 
by the gimp, even if the size is the same as it normally writes, but 
htis is not something you'd usually need to do.

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Re: Mozilla remote control not working

2004-05-21 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Michael Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| Norman wrote:
|> After an upgrade last week (on unstable), remote control no longer
|> works.
|> I can start firefox just fine, but if I attempt to load another
|> window, nothing happens. A little debugging revealed that the remote
|> control app doesn't know that there's an instance running. In fact, if
|> I dig my way through the shell scripts and run 
|
| Have you tried running:
|
| firefox www.website.co.uk
|
| as I think the firefox script deals with the -remote stuff
| automagically.

Yeah, it does, but it does it by running the -remote stuff that doesn't work.
Actually, looking at the sh -x output led me a little further. It turns out
that the -remote stuff sort-of works:

  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-xremote-client 'openurl()'

works, it pops up a dialog asking what to open.

  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-xremote-client 'openurl(localhost)'

works, it loads localhost in whatever window/tab it thinks is current.

  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-xremote-client 'openurl(localhost,new-tab)'

works, it loads localhost in a new tab in whatever window it thinks is current.

  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-xremote-client 
'openurl(localhost,new-window)'

doesn't work at all.

Is there some setting I've frobbed? Could this be related to the
tabbrowser extension?

Be seeing you,
  norm

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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 03:38, Tim Connors wrote:
[...]
> So spammers will simply write their own pgp signatures.
>
> After all, PGP only tells you that the person who signed the
> message was the one who wrote it. Unfortunately, PGP doesn't come
> with an evil-bit.
>
> Reemember, anything the anti-spam community can do, the spammers
> can do as well. We are very much fighting a losing battle, and only
> buy (with lots of effort if you want to change the way email works)
> small amounts of time.
[...]
Without wanting to start another war about spam here, I'd just like to 
say that I think you are missing the point of SPF - or Yahoo's 
offering.  They are primarily aimed at verifying mail doesn't have 
forged headers.  Certainly over 95% of the thousands I receive 
monthly have forged headers.  Also the bulk of the virus/worm spew 
has forged headers.  If spammers used verifyable send addresses, 
complaints would be simple.  

I see no reason why people shouldn't buy dodgy pharmaceuticals if they 
want to.  I myself would opt into some sectors of advertising email 
if any opt-in system became practical (not pharmaceutical supplies, 
though).  But no opt-in or filtering system is workable while most 
emails are unreplyable because the headers are forged.  Eliminate 
that problem, and the remaining question of spam control becomes more 
manageable by a range of measures.  And remember that prohibition 
always creates a black market.  The prefered solution has to be more 
permissive.  Which means "let those who want do it, as long as I 
don't have to be inconvenienced".

I do agree with you about education, though.  People should learn 
_never_ to buy from someone whose reply email address is suspect -- 
never even to click on a link, never even to open the mail.  If we 
all did that the flow would dry up.  Of course, that is what SPF 
would do for us automatically.

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Re: Suexec path wrong?

2004-05-21 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 12:49:36 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [2004-05-11 12:16:14]: error: command not in docroot 
> (/home/site.tld/perltest.cgi)

> It is in the document root,

No it isn't.

> its in the folder apacheis  set up for that useer DocumentRoot,

Sure, but suexec doesn't care about that. It cares about the DOC_ROOT
setting it's been compiled for, which is "/var/www" in Debian.

HTH,
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Re: Sarge Kernel 2.6 and (K)dm)

2004-05-21 Thread Björn Wolter
Nico De Ranter wrote:
I had the same problem after upgrading the kernel to 2.6.
Mouse was gone completely in X, no way to get it back. I recompiled
the kernel and everything works fine now.  I'm not sure which 
change did the trick (I made a lot of changes to the kernel config).

Nico
i think i have found it.
it looks like the default debian 2.6 has ps/2 support only as module not 
directly build in.
i have add the ps/2 module in /etc/modules so the module is loaded 
automaticly at boottime, and now kdm,xdm,gdm works fine with the 2.6 
kernel.

simple, but you have to found it out...
bye...
bjoern
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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread Tom Allison
Tim Connors wrote:
Gates' idea is being put to use every day on this very mailing list.
Notice those GnuPG signatures lots of us seem to use? Try assigning higher
"non-spam" scores to GnuPG signed messages.

So spammers will simply write their own pgp signatures.
After all, PGP only tells you that the person who signed the message
was the one who wrote it. Unfortunately, PGP doesn't come with an
evil-bit.
Reemember, anything the anti-spam community can do, the spammers can
do as well. We are very much fighting a losing battle, and only buy
(with lots of effort if you want to change the way email works) small
amounts of time.
The only solution is education, but unforuntalely, 50% of the
population are just too god damn fucking stupid to get it - witness
the spam for some kind of drug with plenty of spelling errors, that
advertises that the business is being shut down by the drugs
administration, so get in quick. Who could possibly be so fucking
stupid to respond to an ad like that? Unfortunately, enough people to
make the whole business profitable.
Spam is a BILLION dollar industry.
Get that into your head and then you'll realize that Spam will NEVER go 
away.  Too many people buy it, too many companies profit from it.

If everyone goes to SPF then all you need to do is set up your own ISP 
and SPF all the spammers and make millions.  Spam RBL's are being 
attacked on the legal front which puts black lists in jepardy.  The idea 
being that businesses have a legal right to solicit their customers and 
a third party cannot block that.  Bitch all you want, but not to me...

Trying to perfectly block spam through a policy (SPF, DNS TXT 
entries...) is like trying to block advertisement on radio and 
television.  TV advertisers attack TiVO.  Public Radio has ads, but they 
don't call it that.

What makes you think that the Government agencies around the world 
aren't going to gaurantee some loophole will always exist for spammers? 
 They (spammers) contribute millions of dollars to politicians to 
guarantee that they stay in business with as little "real" impact as 
possible.  Look at the US CAN-SPAM act.  It's an embarassment that I 
live in this stupid country.  Spam is legal under CAN-SPAM and you and I 
cannot take legal action against them.  Only the ISP's can.  And a quick 
change of  will solve that problem too but you'll never be able to 
prove it.

The only method with any potential enduring effect will be from a 
"grass-roots" perspective (God I hate that term these days, it's been so 
perversed).  If you don't come up with something on your own, you will 
get spam.  If you come up with something that is shared you may be attacked.

razor and pyzor have both been heavily compromised so there's little 
effect there.
RBL's are our best chance, but they may not survive legal assaults for 
very long.

It's a billion dollar industry, both sides of it.  And it's going to get 
really ugly.  IMHO, much of what was no longer exists and much of what 
is to come will pretty much suck.

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Re: Sarge Kernel 2.6 and (K)dm)

2004-05-21 Thread Tim Ruehsen
Hello Björn,

I had the same problem with SID. First of all I had to update /etc/modules:
(Commented entries were working with kernel 2.4)
#usb-uhci
uhci-hcd
#input
#usbkbd
#keybdev
psmouse
mousedev
e100
#ide-scsi
usb-storage

With kernel 2.6 PS/2 mouses have an own kernel module.

My active mouse section from /etc/X11/XF86config-4 looks like this:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

I hope that's all (i'm not 100% sure).

Tim

Am Freitag, 21. Mai 2004 09:30 schrieb Björn Wolter:
> Ich habe installed a current snapshot of sarge
> the i installed the kernel 2.6.4 image
> 
> now i cant boot directly into X.
> I use kdm as the login manager...
> 
> kdm.log and XFree86*.log tells me that he has no core pointer, also he 
> cannot open /dev/input/mice.
> 
> strange is.. when i log in as root, and start kde with /etc/init.d/kdm 
> start, he runs kdm and no errors like no core pointer appears.
> 
> i have reconfigured the device section in XF86Config-4 to /dev/psaux and 
> /dev/input/mice -> all the same result.
> 
> when i start debian with kernel 2.4.x kdm works well...
> 
> so it must be problem with kernel 2.6
> 
> my mouse device section looks like this
> ..
>   Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
>  Driver  "mouse"
>  Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
>  Option "Protocol""ImPS/2"
>  Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice
>  Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> ..
> 
> has someone a tip for me to run X (kdm) with kernel 2.6
> 
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Re: Ctrl+Alt+F1 not working?

2004-05-21 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
[...]
| I started a thread on this a few weeks ago. The consensus was that if
| you are using xmodmap the above command doesn't work. I have to live
| with it at present.

Bleh. That's it alright. I removed my .Xmodmap and the problem went away.
From casual inspection of my .Xmodmap file, last edited in 2001, it's not
clear if I'll care that I'm not using it anymore.

Has this been bug reported, do you know?

Be seeing you,
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Re: Mozilla remote control not working

2004-05-21 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| Is there some setting I've frobbed? Could this be related to the
| tabbrowser extension?

Yes. I removed the tabbrowser extension and the problem went away.
Sorry for the noise.

Be seeing you,
  norm

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Re: Dynamic DNS Setup

2004-05-21 Thread David Cunningham
There is an open source solution for this called DHIS.
http://www.dhis.org/r5/downloads.html
You can install their server and client software so that *you* get to run
the nameserver.  If this doesn't do what you need then it shouldn't be too
hard to write a script to handle this for you.  I use a script on my clients
and servers so that I have better control over exactly what happens.

<|>/\\/|<|>


- Original Message - 
From: "Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Dynamic DNS Setup


> At 02:27 PM 5/20/04, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Can debian support dynamic dns ? Where can I find the info and how to
> > > configure it ?
> >
> >If we're talking about dyndns.org's services, I would suggest
> >http://www.dyndns.org/ or nntp://news.dyndns.org/dyndns.general for
> >more information.
> >
> >Does this help?
> >
> >--
> >Paul Johnson
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Linux.  You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.
>
> Hi! Paul
>
> How about to configure debian server as Dynamic DNS Server ?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
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Re: Number of Loop devices

2004-05-21 Thread Dennis Stosberg
Am 20.05.2004 um 22:52 schrieb david:

> I would like to know how to mount more than 8 loop devices (if this is
> permited by the kernel).

You probably have loop loaded into the kernel as a module. The loop
module has a parameter to specify the number of available devices.

To set this option permanently, add this line to a new file called
/etc/modutils/loop:

  options loop max_loop=16

Make sure that loop is not in use and run 

  update-modules
  rmmod loop 
  modprobe loop

If your loop driver is compiled into the kernel, append "max_loop=16" 
(or an other suitable number) to the kernel command line in your boot
loader.


Regards, 
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Compilling Kernel 2.4.25 on Debian 2.0r3

2004-05-21 Thread Federico Petronio
Hi, maybe somebody can help me in this:
I recently compiled the 2.4.25 linux kernel (downloaded from kernel.org) 
on Debian Woody 2.0r3 (kernel 2.4) (all from stable branch) because I 
need support for some SCSI controller that is not build on the 2.4 
stable kernel (2.4.18-1).

Everything works well if I put all I need on the kernel, but if I try to 
use modules, I find some problems:

	- The initrd image could not be read correctly ("cramfs: bad magic" is 
the message I get)
	- "The System.map file is not appropriate to the kernel" claims ps(1).
	- I get "unresolve symbol" messages when I try to insert modules.

I guess all this could be caused by incompatibility between the kernel 
and the rest of the utilities needed for compilation, initrd generation, 
etc. Is this possible? Or I should look for other explanation?

Thanks a lot.
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Re: Number of Loop devices

2004-05-21 Thread Jan C. Nordholz
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 10:52:24PM -0500, david wrote:
> I would like to know how to mount more than 8 loop devices (if this is
> permited by the kernel).
Hi david,

you can pass the
  max_loop=
option to the loop device driver; if you're loading it as a module, pass
it as a parameter to insmod - if the support is compiled into the kernel,
append it to your boot options.

> Why are there only 8 /dev/loop? devices (0-7).
That's just the default number of loop devices. If you need more, create
more (see mknod(8); block device, major 7, minor number should match
the number in the name).

HTH,

Jan


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Re: Linksys Router Setup Failure - Fixed

2004-05-21 Thread Thomas H. George
 The victory is not particularly satisfying as I don't know how we 
fixed the problem.

On the plus side,the Linksys tech support was alway immediately 
reachable and worked tirelessly in four long phone sessions to find and 
fix the problem.  On the negative side I had to do all this on my 
grandson's laptop running Windows XP Pro. I am sure I had already tried 
everything the tech support people suggested. One of those actions must 
have been correct but required a reboot although there was no message to 
this effect.

While it is frustrating not to know what fixed the problem it may 
never come up again as this was a one time setup which should remain in 
effect until setup is run again.

	Finally, I really suspect that there has been a security change which 
prevented me from doing this running Linux.  Specifically, reaching the 
setup page requires a DHCP setup.  Our LAN normally uses fixed IP 
addresses.  When I changed one system to DHCP a link came up immediately 
but still when the IP address of the setup page was entered in Mozilla 
there was an immediate message that the connection was refused. Another 
indication of this problem came this morning when I tried to re-setup 
the Belkin UPS.  This must be done as root but in a display.  Using xdm 
and icewm I would open a terminal, su root, open the display and make 
the necessary changes.  I can no longer open the display.

Tom George
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Re: print to a hp lj 5l through tcp/ip

2004-05-21 Thread LeVA
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:36:50PM +0200, LeVA wrote:
> | Hi!
> | 
> | I have a hp laserjet 5l printer in my network, and listens on tcp 
port 
> | 9100. A few month ago (when I used woody), I could use the socket:// 
> | protocoll to connect to it. But after I've upgraded to sarge, I can 
> not 
> | even select the tcp/ip protocoll when I'm adding a new printer. I 
can 
> | only choose from smb, and lpt.
> | Anyone know how to use this kind of printer?
> From: "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Perhaps you need to run
> dpkg-reconfigure -plow cupsys
> and select 'socket' as one of the "enabled" backends.
> 
> -D

Thanks a lot, now it's working!

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"presenter view" in OOo Impress

2004-05-21 Thread Matt Price
Hey folks,

was justreading this article inthe New York Times about the new
version of MS Office for Mac:  

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/20/technology/circuits/20stat.html

In it, the author discusses a new "presenter tools" view in MS office,
which lets you see extra information on your laptop screen that isn't
passed on to the projector (this is for powerpoint, obviously).

This is something I would LOVE to emulate in openoffice "impress"
presentation software on debian.  I wonder whether it might be
possible to do something tricky with X that makes this possible --
like, say, run one X session on the projector, a different one on the
laptop lcd, and then remotely access the projector screen from within
the laptop x session?  Does this sound plausible

I'd love to hear opinions.  

thx,

matt


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Re: Problem with Debian bootup

2004-05-21 Thread Loki
On 5/21/04 12:09 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I had a box that today experienced a power failure.  When I rebooted, it
> wasn't even pingable.  I brought it upstairs (no minotor in the basement)
> and noticed that I was always pausing during the boot sequence at a root
> prompt.  Seems to have just brought the network up and then stopped at
> this root prompt.  If I type 'exit', the boot continues as if nothing
> happened.  As this is a server machine, I can't just leave a keyboard
> attached waiting for someone to happen along and type 'exit'.  :)

That sounds like single-user mode. Are you using lilo? Also, what's in your
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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread Adam Aube
Tom Allison wrote:

> Spam RBL's are being attacked on the legal front which puts black lists in
> jepardy.  The idea being that businesses have a legal right to solicit
> their customers and a third party cannot block that.

Spammers will never win a case against RBL operators, because the RBLs
themselves do not actually block anything. It is the the individual
organization that decides what RBLs (if any) to use, and therefore it is
the individual organization which sets up the blocking that is preventing
the "legitimate solicitation of business".

Therefore the spammer would have to sue the individual organizations,
because they are the ones who actually setup the blocking.

But the mail servers in question are private property, and the organizations
have the right to refuse access to their server based on whatever criteria
they may choose. So the spammers don't have a case there, either.

This, of course, won't keep the spammers from trying - they do it not to
win, but only to scare/bankrupt an RBL or organization into crumbling. Tort
reform that requires the plaintiff to pay the defendant's legal costs in
frivolous civil cases would fix that problem.

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Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress

2004-05-21 Thread Kent West
Matt Price wrote:
Hey folks,
was justreading this article inthe New York Times about the new
version of MS Office for Mac:  

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/20/technology/circuits/20stat.html
In it, the author discusses a new "presenter tools" view in MS office,
which lets you see extra information on your laptop screen that isn't
passed on to the projector (this is for powerpoint, obviously).
This is something I would LOVE to emulate in openoffice "impress"
presentation software on debian.  I wonder whether it might be
possible to do something tricky with X that makes this possible --
like, say, run one X session on the projector, a different one on the
laptop lcd, and then remotely access the projector screen from within
the laptop x session?  Does this sound plausible
I'd love to hear opinions.  

thx,
matt
 

Sounds like it should work.
Another idea might be to configure your laptop to use the projector as a 
second head, and configure X as a dual-head setup. Then you only have 
one X session, but you can move the Impress window to the second head 
(projector). Of course that means you'll have to watch the projection 
screen to follow along with your own presentation, so your method is 
probably better.

/Kent
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No sound in Gnome (Sarge, SoundBlaster card, Gnome 2.4.1)

2004-05-21 Thread James Buchanan
So far Google reveals only that SoundBlaster cards sometimes misbehave. 
I couldn't find anything specific about not getting any sound out of
Gnome with a SoundBlaster Live 5.1 card.

I have the correct modules loaded (2.6.3 kernel, snd-emu10k1,
snd/sound/coundcore, ac97-codec), fixed permissions on /dev/mixer and
/dev/dsp, and added myself to the audio group.

Looking in /proc/driver/emu10k1/:00:0f.0 :

$ cat info:

Driver Version : 0.20a
Card type  : Emu10k1
Revision   : 10
Model  : 0x8064
IO : 0xa800-0xa81f
IRQ: 18
 
Registered /dev Entries:
/dev/dsp0
/dev/dsp1
/dev/mixer0
/dev/midi0
/dev/sequencer

$ cat ac97:

Vendor name  : Unknown
Vendor id: 454D 4328
AC97 Version : 2.0 or later
Capabilities :
DAC resolutions  : -16-bit- -18-bit-
ADC resolutions  : -16-bit- -18-bit-
3D enhancement   : No 3D Stereo Enhancement
POP path : pre 3D
Sim. stereo  : off
3D enhancement   : off
Loudness : off
Mono output  : MIX
MIC select   : MIC1
ADC/DAC loopback : off
Ext Capabilities : -PCM surround DAC- -slot/DAC mappings-
Front DAC rate   : 0

---

Looks like /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer aren't handled by the device driver
under "Registered /dev Entries" so nothing's happening when applications
use /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.  But if I cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp I do
get a hissing sound, leading me to believe that I am completely confused
and out of my depth...

I'm not sure how to instruct Gnome to use /dev/dsp0 or /dev/dsp1, or
/dev/mixer0 or /dev/mixer1, or whatever it is that I must do.

Any help appreciated,
Thanks.



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[SOLVED] No sound in Gnome

2004-05-21 Thread James Buchanan
Sorry list, problem solved.

Symlinked /dev/dsp0 to /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer to /dev/mixer0.
Didn't have speaker volume turned up :)

D'oh!



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Re: Newbie Needs Printer Advice

2004-05-21 Thread Clyde Wilson




welly hartanto wrote:

  --- Clyde Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
I have a printer that hooks up to my USB port.  If I
do a  'echo "OK" > 
/dev/usb/lp0' I don't get any output.  Is there
something I need to do 
to get the right device?


  
  
Are you using udev ? which kernel is your system
running ?

Thnks for the help, Welly.  I really appreciate it!

I don't know if I'm using udev.  What is it?  My kernel version is 2.2.  

  
Several days ago, this happen to me.
The solusion is : cd /dev
  /sbin/MAKEDEV usb

I did this and it did create /dev/usb which is a directory full of lp0 etc.
 Is there a simple command like 'echo "OK" > /dev/usb/lp0' that will print
something?

  
I'm running sid kernel 2.6.5.


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Re: Newbie Needs Printer Advice

2004-05-21 Thread Clyde Wilson
Joris Huizer wrote:
Clyde Wilson wrote:
I have a printer that hooks up to my USB port.  If I do a  'echo "OK" 
> /dev/usb/lp0' I don't get any output.  Is there something I need to 
do to get the right device?


You can find information about all sorts of printers at 
http://linuxprinting.org/
Also, make sure you have the usb printer module in the kernel enabled 
(search by using modconf, in the usb section (in my 2.6.6 custom 
kernel it's under kernel/drivers/usb/class, called usblp)
Thanks for the speedy answer, Joris.  I tried modconf, but I can't find 
anything to do with printers or usb devices.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong?


HTH,
Joris



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Re: /dev/md0 and udev

2004-05-21 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:44:51PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> Richard Weil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'm running Sarge with a 2.6.5 kernel. I'm trying to
> > create a RAID 5 array of three disks (though for
> > initial setup I'm only using two of three). When I
> > reboot, udev does not re-create my /dev/md0 device, so
> > the RAID array won't start. Any suggestions?
> 
> udev won't create the md? devices because the RAID never notifies
> udev/sysfs about it.  The just have a thread about on the udev mailing
> list.  You need to create the md? devices manually by putting it in the
> /etc/udev/links.conf file
> 

Whats the udev email list location?
Is there any irc channel for udev, by udev developers, or experts?
Thank you John.


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Re: Another shell scripting question

2004-05-21 Thread David Piniella

	Is it just more efficient in resources to use plain #! /bin/sh
rather than bash?
 

No, it just makes your script more portable to systems that might not 
have bash.

Some systems that /do/ have bash installed have /bin/sh linked to it, 
but some don't have bash by default or choice (Solaris, FreeBSD, et al.)

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UPS Package Tracking Information

2004-05-21 Thread customer . service
Sorry, a valid UPS tracking number was not found in your message.


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Question about Exim

2004-05-21 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
Greetings everyone,

I set up an Exim mail filter file containing the following:

# Exim filter
if
  $h_X-Amavis-Hold contains " "
then
  freeze
endif

Is there a better condition that will test just for the existence of the
header?  I have tried def: without any luck.

If anyone knows how, that would be great, otherwise I'll still with what
I have.

PS. I am subscribed to neither of these list, please CC me in replies.

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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread Mark Ferlatte
richard lyons said on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:59:23PM -0400:
> On Wednesday 19 May 2004 17:05, Bojan Baros wrote:
> > Link: http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys
> >
> > So, what's everyone take on this?
> >
> 
> Another software patent.  Any really good idea that is to become the 
> new standard _has_ to be released open source and copyleft.

Uh, it is open source, and copyleft:

http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/

The only reference to possible patent issues is the general "if we have a
patent on it, you get a royalty-free license" statement on the DomainKeys page
(http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys), which seems to indicate that even if
yahoo does have a patent on domainkeys, it doesn't matter, 'cause you can
implement it for free anyway.

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Re: Samba and network printing

2004-05-21 Thread CW Harris
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 02:24:38PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> CW Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> Now, the smb user is my guest user. I'm not sure why it tries to log in
> >
> > You may be having your account mapped to you guest user.
> > IIRC the things that are required are:
> > 1. User is in the printer admin group
> > 2. User has a valid smb password/account
> > 3. User must be able to write to the *nix directory where
> >samba stores the printer driver info.
> 
> But I don't understand what my account has anything to do with it, since
> I'm logging in as root, and root does have rights to the printer driver
> directory. 

By "User" I meant the user you were connecting as (root in your case),
sorry for being unclear.

Okay, re-reading the thread and some Samba docs... It seems that root
may be special and may *not* have to be in "printer admin", but then
again other docs seem to show using a "printer admin = root" global, so
I'm not certain.

Or, I found this one ref. to an auth. problem with cupsaddsmb and a
Samba PDC which may be related:

http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/howto/CUPS-printing.html#id2565677

Perhaps you need to include the "domain" portion?  They indicate using 

rpcclient -U "DOMAIN\root%passwd"

if I read it correctly.

HTH

P.S.  I am really getting curious about this. Windows printer drivers
(even under Samba) seem too much like black magic.  Please let me know
when you find a solution.


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Re: Samba and network printing

2004-05-21 Thread CW Harris
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:28:01AM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> hi ya john
> 
> On Thu, 20 May 2004, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> 
> > CW Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > >> Now, the smb user is my guest user. I'm not sure why it tries to log in
> > >
> > > You may be having your account mapped to you guest user.
> > > IIRC the things that are required are:
> > >   1. User is in the printer admin group
> 
> doesn't matter ... lpd or other printer daemons take care of it for the
> users including root

The OP is having problems adding printer drivers to the [print$] share for
auto downloading by windows clients.

I believe all the printing is working fine.

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Re: /dev/md0 and udev

2004-05-21 Thread Richard Weil
Sorry to be stupid, put I can't find much
documentation on the udev/links.conf file. Would I add
the following to links.conf in order to create
/dev/md0?

M md0b 9 0

I'm not sure of the distinction between L, D, M in the
file, though I assume L is link, D is directory and M
is some sort of make.

Thanks,

Richard



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wrote:
> Richard Weil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'm running Sarge with a 2.6.5 kernel. I'm trying
> to
> > create a RAID 5 array of three disks (though for
> > initial setup I'm only using two of three). When I
> > reboot, udev does not re-create my /dev/md0
> device, so
> > the RAID array won't start. Any suggestions?
> 
> udev won't create the md? devices because the RAID
> never notifies
> udev/sysfs about it.  The just have a thread about
> on the udev mailing
> list.  You need to create the md? devices manually
> by putting it in the
> /etc/udev/links.conf file
> 
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Re: fun Re: Copy Linux Filesystem/Check/Compare Filesystems

2004-05-21 Thread Travis Crump
Alvin Oga wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2004, Silvan wrote:

On Wednesday 19 May 2004 07:20 pm, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
..
Any suggestions?  Just exactly how would one tar one filesystem to another,
without the intermediate tar file?

mount /new-disk /mnt/new
-- abort -- abort if failed
tar cf - /home /var /whatever-you-want | ( cd /mnt/new ; tar xvfp - )
umount /mnt/new
- you can figure out what directories to cp over and which ones yu
don't touch
( /tmp, /mnt, /proc .. )

if ! (mount /mnt/backup); then
   echo "ERROR!  Could not mount /mnt/backup!"
   echo "Abort, abort, abort!!!"
   exit 1
fi

good to manually mount backups ... :-)
 

rsync -uax --delete / /mnt/backup/
rsync -uax --delete /boot /mnt/backup/
rsync -uax --delete /var /mnt/backup/
rsync -uax --delete /home /mnt/backup/

wouldn't the first rysnc of "/" backup everything including /boot, /var...
- and worst still, rsycing of /tmp and /proc is a very bad idea
	which means you manually list all the directories you do want 
	rysnc to the other box

and i dont like --deletes, just in case i delete a directory/file 
and a week later, i decide, oh shit, wish i had that file from last
week or last year

and nope, i dont use rsync ... except to d/l and [r]sync other peoples
stuff like kernel.org locally
c ya
alvin

man rsync:
-x, --one-file-system   don't cross filesystem boundaries


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Re: logical drive limitation

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:57:13AM -0700, Ken Guo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Can you please tell me the drive size limitation of debian Linux. We
> have a customer who create a 2.8 TB logical drive, but the debian
> Linux host only see 0.34TB.

For more information:

http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/IA64wiki/LargeBlockDevices


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OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
I'm asking for a bit of advice here.  

I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving as 
many fields as possible.  

I could do this by exporting to cvs, importing to gnumeric (or any 
spreadsheet), shuffling the columns around, re-exporting to cvs and 
importing back to abook.  I'll lose a lot more than I want to, as the 
abook cvs is only a partial dump.

I could do it in BASIC - I still vaguely remember my first language!

I could probably do it in perl - but I've never really learned perl, 
and would have to work from the manual.

But it seems to me most rational to use the opportunity to begin 
learning one of the lighter languages that I keep seeing mention of.  
So the question is, which do you people recommend?  

The input data will be the cvs dump from kmail, and the output will be 
abook native format, which is a series of numbered paragraphs , 
reminiscent of an doze .ini file. That is to say, it begins:
   [2]
   name=name
   [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   address=address_1
   address2=address_2
   city=hereville
   ...
so I assume sed is less than optimal.  It seems like a function I 
might need again, so it is worth having it in a script.

I really do need to equip myself with a convenient scripting language 
for all these day-to-day admin tasks, and I'd like it if it can do a 
little maths for me at time too.  Please advise me which manual to 
open.

TIA

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DHCP slow renewal, actually times out but mysteriously still gets an IP

2004-05-21 Thread Stalks
I have a small network with 6 public IP addresses. The debian server runs a DHCP 
server. I've tried
with the 'apt-get install dhcp' and am now using 'apt-get install dhcp3-server'.
When my XP SP1a machine (PC4800 Deluxe with onboard 3COM Gigabit Ethernet) attempts to 
get an IP via
DHCP, windows actually times out. *but* it *does* get an IP.
For instance ...

  C:\>ipconfig /release
  Windows IP Configuration
  Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
  C:\>ipconfig /renew
  Windows IP Configuration
  An error occurred while renewing interface Local Area Connection : unable to 
contact your
DHCP server. Request has timed out.
  C:\>ipconfig
  Windows IP Configuration
  Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : nooblet.org
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 81.168.82.220
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.248
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.168.82.217
  C:\>

This has the added effect that any startup programs are unable to access the internet, 
as the
"ipconfig /renew" command takes up to 2mins to time-out, I dont get an IP on boot-up 
for 2 mins.
Anti-virus complains it cant update its definitions and MSN Messenger gives up 
connecting. The same
problem is on another XP machine (also SP1a, PC-Chips motherboard with onboard Realtek 
100mbps NIC),
but that refuses to startup until it has an IP, therefore sits at a blank desktop for 
1 or 2 mins
before loading (which to be honest is actually preffered as that means it has no 
startup issues with
internet connection).
A workaround would be to issue a static IP to each PC, but I would really like to get 
this working
as it should.
More info ...
Here is logs from /var/log/syslog concerning an ipconfig /renew from this PC,
# nooblet is the server name, 81.168.82.220 is this PC
# I first restarted the dhcp3-server process
May 21 14:24:13 nooblet dhcpd: Wrote 0 deleted host decls to leases file.
May 21 14:24:13 nooblet dhcpd: Wrote 0 new dynamic host decls to leases file.
May 21 14:24:13 nooblet dhcpd: Wrote 0 leases to leases file.
# ipconfig /release
May 21 14:24:53 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPRELEASE of 81.168.82.220 from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via 
br0 (not found)
# ipconfing /renew (start)
May 21 14:25:00 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:00 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:05 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:05 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:13 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:13 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:30 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:30 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:26:06 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:26:06 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:26:06 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 81.168.82.220 (0.0.0.0) from 
00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:26:06 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPACK on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
# ipconfig /renew (end, finally get an ACK)
And my DHCP config ...
([EMAIL PROTECTED](/var/lib/dhcp)>cat /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
#
# default options
#
server-identifier nooblet;
default-lease-time 86400;
max-lease-time 86400;
option domain-name  "nooblet.org";
option domain-name-servers  81.168.82.217;
option host-name"nooblet";
option routers  81.168.82.217;
option subnet-mask  255.255.255.248;
option time-offset  0;
option time-servers 81.168.82.219;
option netbios-name-servers 81.168.82.219;
#
# dynamically leased ip, will be receiving a further 12 IPs soon but for now there is 
only one free
#
subnet 81.168.82.216 netmask 255.255.255.248{
range 81.168.82.222;
}
#
# static ip based on mac address
#
host stalks {
  hardware ethernet 00:0C:6E:70:29:33;
  fixed-address 81.168.82.220;
}
host bambi {
  hardware ethernet 00:0D:87:AA:B1:8B;
  fixed-address 81.168.82.221;
}
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wrong newsgroup then
I apologise, I would be grateful if you could point me to the correct group.
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Re: Ctrl+Alt+F1 not working?

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 08:49:24AM -0400, Norman Walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> / Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> [...]
> | I started a thread on this a few weeks ago. The consensus was that if
> | you are using xmodmap the above command doesn't work. I have to live
> | with it at present.
> 
> Bleh. That's it alright. I removed my .Xmodmap and the problem went away.
> From casual inspection of my .Xmodmap file, last edited in 2001, it's not
> clear if I'll care that I'm not using it anymore.

Depends on what you're mapping.  I swap  and , but
nothing else.  Modifying the keypress to  works.  I
of course think of that as .

> Has this been bug reported, do you know?

Search:http://bugs.debian.org/


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from header class btwn mutt and mailman?

2004-05-21 Thread matt . price
hey folks,

I've just realized that mutt has been sending out messages using a
private address (matt - at - derailleur - org) instead of the 'form'
header set in  my .muttrc:

set from = [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I tried 

grep -ir derailleur /etc/*

ad the only relevant entry I could find was:

mailman/mm_cfg.py:DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'www.derailleur.org'

so my question:  can mailman override mutt's 'from' header somehow?
It seems bizarre and unlikely.  But there's nothing at all in my
.muttrc containing the string "derailleur" -- so I don't see how mutt
would even encounter that address!

Anyway, I find it puzzling.  

thx,

matt


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Sarge Install

2004-05-21 Thread Chris




Hi all,
 
I've run into an error on the debootstrap program 
during install.  I have successfully installed Sarge before on a newer 
machine and it works great.
 
This machine though is an older Compaq Presario 
6200.
 
I get entirely through the setup to the point 
of:
 

Setting up base-config (2.21) ...
 
Errors were encoutered while 
processing:
 apt-utils
umount: /target/dev/pts: No such file or 
directory
umount: /target/dev/shm: No such file or 
directory
umount: /target/proc/bus/usb: Invalid 
argument
ln: /target/usr/bin/awk: File exists

 
And it stops there, says to check messages or 
pts/3.
 
Currently I have no usb devices hooked into this 
machine, but I do know that the USB bus works.  I've also successfully 
installed RedHat 7.0+ on here with no problems.
 
Any help or pointers would be 
appreciated!
 
Thanks!


Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress

2004-05-21 Thread Matt Price
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:30:12AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Matt Price wrote:
> >
> >In it, the author discusses a new "presenter tools" view in MS office,
> >which lets you see extra information on your laptop screen that isn't
> >passed on to the projector (this is for powerpoint, obviously).
> >
> >This is something I would LOVE to emulate in openoffice "impress"
> >presentation software on debian.  I wonder whether it might be
> >possible to do something tricky with X that makes this possible --
> >like, say, run one X session on the projector, a different one on the
> >laptop lcd, and then remotely access the projector screen from within
> >the laptop x session?  Does this sound plausible
> >
> >I'd love to hear opinions.  
> >
> Sounds like it should work.
> 
> Another idea might be to configure your laptop to use the projector as a 
> second head, and configure X as a dual-head setup. Then you only have 
> one X session, but you can move the Impress window to the second head 
> (projector). Of course that means you'll have to watch the projection 
> screen to follow along with your own presentation, so your method is 
> probably better.

so, question:  Is it actually possible to run a different X session on
the projector?  On reflection, it seems impossible, since the
projector gets its signal from the laptop video out; if it's
configured as a dual-head setup, I getthe problem you described;
otherwise, the projector is a simple mirror of what happens on the lcd
screen.  Or do the vast complexities of x hide possibilities I haven't
dreamed of (well, I know they do, but possibilities that would HELP me
here...)?

thx as always,
m


> 
> /Kent
> 
> 


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aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
I just found my Galeon install inadvertantly updated (I can't say
upgraded) from 1.2.x (9ish?) to 1.3.14a-1.  This despite its being
listed as "hold" in dpkg --get-selections:

galeon  hold

I've got major reservations with where Galeon's gone in the 1.3 branch,
most of which I feel is a major step backwards.  Needless to say, I'm
not particularly pleased.  I don't believe I can force a revision to the
prior version, though I'll look into that.


This corresponds to my switching from doing 'apt-get -yu dist-upgrade'
to 'aptitude -yu dist-upgrade'.  I noted a lot of packages getting
updated under aptitude that weren't being changed with apt-get.  The
galeon situation is one of the more annoying of these changes.


This also calls for the possibility of Debian treating major revisions of
packages as separate packages.  This is already done with several
development tools (gcc, perl, python, etc.).  While desktop / end-user
apps don't fall quite under the same category, being able to manage this
change more precisely could be useful.


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Re: aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I just found my Galeon install inadvertantly updated (I can't say
> upgraded) from 1.2.x (9ish?) to 1.3.14a-1.  This despite its being
> listed as "hold" in dpkg --get-selections:
> 
> galeonhold
> 
> I've got major reservations with where Galeon's gone in the 1.3 branch,
> most of which I feel is a major step backwards.  Needless to say, I'm
> not particularly pleased.  I don't believe I can force a revision to the
> prior version, though I'll look into that.
> 
> 
> This corresponds to my switching from doing 'apt-get -yu dist-upgrade'
> to 'aptitude -yu dist-upgrade'.  I noted a lot of packages getting
> updated under aptitude that weren't being changed with apt-get.  The
> galeon situation is one of the more annoying of these changes.
> 
> 
> This also calls for the possibility of Debian treating major revisions of
> packages as separate packages.  This is already done with several
> development tools (gcc, perl, python, etc.).  While desktop / end-user
> apps don't fall quite under the same category, being able to manage this
> change more precisely could be useful.

Turns out to be a two year old bug.  This colors my opinion of aptitude
very negatively:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=146207


One of the core strengths of Debian is that it does what I tell it to do
(if doing so doesn't break things horribly -- and even then, it just
questions my sanity and does so anyhow if I insist).

Having user preferences silently and irrevocably overridden is pretty
bad.


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Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-21 Thread Carlos Hanson
On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:55:35 -0400
richard lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm asking for a bit of advice here.  
> 
> I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving as 
> many fields as possible.  
> 

[ ... ]

> 
> I could probably do it in perl - but I've never really learned perl, 
> and would have to work from the manual.
> 

Perl is a great language.  I think it can solve many issues quickly, but it does 
appear large and overwhelming at first.

> 
> I really do need to equip myself with a convenient scripting language 
> for all these day-to-day admin tasks, and I'd like it if it can do a 
> little maths for me at time too.  Please advise me which manual to 
> open.
> 

Until this past year, I used three primary tools in conjunction with the Bourne Shell 
for my "day-to-day admin tasks": sed, grep and awk.  With these three tools you can 
manipulate text to your heart's content.  In this case, if I didn't want to use perl, 
awk is a good choice.  For example,

echo "hanson,carlos,[EMAIL PROTECTED],123 street,somewhere,555-1234" |
awk '
  BEGIN { FS="," }
  {
printf ("[%s]\n", NR)
printf ("name=%s %s\n", $2, $1)
printf ("email=%s\n", $3)
printf ("address=%s\n", $4)
printf ("city=%s\n", $5)
printf ("phone=%s\n", $6)
printf ("\n")
  }'

but the equivalent in perl script is

#!/usr/bin/perl
my $count = 1;
while (<>) {
chomp;
my @record = split(/,/);
printf ("[%s]\n", $count++);
printf ("name=%s %s\n", $record[1], $record[0]);
printf ("email=%s\n", $record[2]);
printf ("address=%s\n", $record[3]);
printf ("city=%s\n", $record[4]);
printf ("phone=%s\n", $record[5]);
printf ("\n");
}

If I was to do something quick on the command line, I would use sed, grep and awk.  
Otherwise, I try to use perl.  Perl is a combination of those tools and more.

Enjoy.

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Re: aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:55:27PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Turns out to be a two year old bug.  This colors my opinion of aptitude
> very negatively:
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=146207

...and:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=137771


There are apparently three package selection databases.  These should be
either unified or cross-validated:

  - dpkg
  - apt
  - aptitude


Anyone else running into this?

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Re: Newbie Needs Printer Advice

2004-05-21 Thread Joris Huizer
Clyde Wilson wrote:
Joris Huizer wrote:
Clyde Wilson wrote:
I have a printer that hooks up to my USB port.  If I do a  'echo "OK" 
> /dev/usb/lp0' I don't get any output.  Is there something I need to 
do to get the right device?


You can find information about all sorts of printers at 
http://linuxprinting.org/
Also, make sure you have the usb printer module in the kernel enabled 
(search by using modconf, in the usb section (in my 2.6.6 custom 
kernel it's under kernel/drivers/usb/class, called usblp)

Thanks for the speedy answer, Joris.  I tried modconf, but I can't find 
anything to do with printers or usb devices.  Any idea what I'm doing 
wrong?
Hello Clyde Wilson,
Take a look here: 
http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Hardware/Getting_USB_and_Your_Printer_Working.html

For usb printing, you'll have to upgrade to a 2.4 kernel - or a 2.6 
kernel , but coming from 2.2 that'd be a big leap I guess.

There are some 2.4 kernel images available as debian packages or you 
could try and compile a custom kernel.

HTH,
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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 13:40, Mark Ferlatte wrote:
> richard lyons said on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:59:23PM -0400:
> > On Wednesday 19 May 2004 17:05, Bojan Baros wrote:
> > > Link: http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys
> > >
> > > So, what's everyone take on this?
> >
> > Another software patent.  Any really good idea that is to become
> > the new standard _has_ to be released open source and copyleft.
>
> Uh, it is open source, and copyleft:
>
> http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/
>
> The only reference to possible patent issues is the general "if we
> have a patent on it, you get a royalty-free license" statement on
> the DomainKeys page (http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys), which
> seems to indicate that even if yahoo does have a patent on
> domainkeys, it doesn't matter, 'cause you can implement it for free
> anyway.

I have to admit I skimmed that page in a hurry.  When I saw the 
mention of a patent, I hastily concluded that this looked like they 
were setting up a situation where they could distribute freely in 
order to establish a userbase and then reclaim their rights as 
patentholders.  Unfair of me to be so suspicious.

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Re: Screen won't work after 'su non-root-user'

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, May 19, 2004 at 01:33:43PM -0700, Sean O'Dell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> If I ssh into a machine as root, then su to a non-root user, then try to run
> screen, I get this error:
> 
> Cannot?open?your?terminal?'/dev/pts/0'?-?please?check.
> 
> I also get this error if I log into my local machine as root, then su to a
> non-root user and try to run screen.
> 
> However, if I either ssh into the remote machine, or log into the local
> machine, directly as the non-root user, screen works fine.
> 
> Both the local and remote machine are updated with the latest packages from
> Debian, both unstable and testing.
> 
> It's seems that, somehow, when I su to a non-root user, something changes
> that prevents screen from working.
> 
> Any ideas?

I've run into a number of issues with screen on remote sessions.

One of these is related to incorrect permissions on the PTY device
files.  No specific guidance, but check/Google for this.


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Archives of prior testing/unstable packages?

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
I thought these were at archives.debian.org, that site's down.  Or was
it somewhere else?

Desperately seeking the last best Galeon 1.2.x release.


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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:39:35PM +, Brett Carrington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:25:24PM -0400, Bojan Baros wrote:

> > And about the idea that Bill Gates floated out there, about solving
> > a computer puzzle that would require 10 seconds or so of CPU time to
> > send the email...  Spammers already use distributed computing (some
> > computers are doing it willingly, others not quite so) to send out
> > spam.  This would not create a huge problem if you have plenty of
> > CPU cycles to spare.

Agreed.  They're stealing their SMTP servers.  They'll steal compute
servers as well.
 
> Gates' idea is being put to use every day on this very mailing list.
> Notice those GnuPG signatures lots of us seem to use? Try assigning
> higher "non-spam" scores to GnuPG signed messages.

Nope.

You'd have to score *trusted* sigs.

"Identity" qua identity is nothing.

Identity + trust isn't everything, but it's a good portion of the
journey.


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Size of default partition with d-i beta3

2004-05-21 Thread Brent Bailey
A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3.  I kept
with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user set-up, which
set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive.  Now / is full, and every other
partition is hardly used.  I can't mount a cdrom to burn a copy of my
files from home that I need.  All partitions are ext3.  Is there a way
to add more space to / (preferably from /home) without having to
re-format both partitions?

Thanks,

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Re: Archives of prior testing/unstable packages?

2004-05-21 Thread Travis Crump
Karsten M. Self wrote:
I thought these were at archives.debian.org, that site's down.  Or was
it somewhere else?
Desperately seeking the last best Galeon 1.2.x release.
Peace.
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aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.

2004-05-21 Thread John covici
 It seems that Debian and the apt-get utilities have different places
 where they keep such information -- I had the opposite case a few
 weeks ago, where something I had put on hold in Deboian was not
 honored by dselect.  Could the authors get together and straighten
 out the situation?
 
on Friday 05/21/2004 Karsten M. Self([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
 > I just found my Galeon install inadvertantly updated (I can't say
 > upgraded) from 1.2.x (9ish?) to 1.3.14a-1.  This despite its being
 > listed as "hold" in dpkg --get-selections:
 > 
 > galeon   hold
 > 
 > I've got major reservations with where Galeon's gone in the 1.3 branch,
 > most of which I feel is a major step backwards.  Needless to say, I'm
 > not particularly pleased.  I don't believe I can force a revision to the
 > prior version, though I'll look into that.
 > 
 > 
 > This corresponds to my switching from doing 'apt-get -yu dist-upgrade'
 > to 'aptitude -yu dist-upgrade'.  I noted a lot of packages getting
 > updated under aptitude that weren't being changed with apt-get.  The
 > galeon situation is one of the more annoying of these changes.
 > 
 > 
 > This also calls for the possibility of Debian treating major revisions of
 > packages as separate packages.  This is already done with several
 > development tools (gcc, perl, python, etc.).  While desktop / end-user
 > apps don't fall quite under the same category, being able to manage this
 > change more precisely could be useful.
 > 
 > 
 > Peace.
 > 
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Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 16:52, Brent Bailey wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3.  I
> kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user
> set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive.  Now / is
> full, and every other partition is hardly used.  I can't mount a
> cdrom to burn a copy of my files from home that I need.  All
> partitions are ext3.  Is there a way to add more space to /
> (preferably from /home) without having to re-format both
> partitions?

What is your present partitioning scheme?  What do df and mount say?

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Re: 'Applications -> Preferences -> Font' not working.

2004-05-21 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 05:34, Adam Bogacki wrote:
> Hm...  'libmetacity' does not seem to exist on my system. 
> 
> > Tux:~# apt-get remove metacity
> > Reading Package Lists... Done
> > Building Dependency Tree... Done
> > Package metacity is not installed, so not removed
> > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> ..
> > Tux:~# cd /
> > Tux:/# find -name  libmetacity-private.so.0 -print
> > find: ./proc/3746/task: No such file or directory
> > find: ./proc/4633/task: No such file or directory
> > Tux:/#

Sounds like a missing dependency to me.

Please file a bug report against the gnome-control-center package
indicating that it needs to depend on libmetacity0.

Incidentally, I notice that neither 2.4.0-9 nor 2.6.1-1 has this
dependency...

Cheers,

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Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress

2004-05-21 Thread Kent West
Matt Price wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:30:12AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
 

Matt Price wrote:
   

In it, the author discusses a new "presenter tools" view in MS office,
which lets you see extra information on your laptop screen that isn't
passed on to the projector (this is for powerpoint, obviously).
This is something I would LOVE to emulate in openoffice "impress"
presentation software on debian.
 

Another idea might be to configure your laptop to use the projector as a 
second head, and configure X as a dual-head setup.
   

so, question:  Is it actually possible to run a different X session on
the projector?
Having never had a laptop I could experiment much with, I don't know. I 
came across something last week that led me to believe that a laptop 
essentially has a "second video card" which it uses for the external 
monitor, but I briefly experimented with an older laptop that led me to 
believe that was not the case at least with this laptop.

As I stop to think about it, I can't figure out how MS-Office could 
accomplish this without treating the projector as a second monitor. It 
seems to me that Office would be sending the same signal to a single 
video "chain", which then gets split by the laptop into the separate 
display devices. So if MS-Office is using a dual-head setup (via ties to 
the OS, I'm sure), then OO.o/X should be able to accomplish the same thing.

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Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress

2004-05-21 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote:
As I stop to think about it, I can't figure out how MS-Office could 
accomplish this without treating the projector as a second monitor. It 
seems to me that Office would be sending the same signal to a single 
video "chain", which then gets split by the laptop into the separate 
display devices. So if MS-Office is using a dual-head setup (via ties 
to the OS, I'm sure), then OO.o/X should be able to accomplish the 
same thing.

I just re-read your original message, and noticed this was a feature on 
the Mac. In that case, I'm almost certain that it's a dual-head setup.

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Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3

2004-05-21 Thread Brent Bailey
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:26, richard lyons wrote:
> On Friday 21 May 2004 16:52, Brent Bailey wrote:
> > A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3.  I
> > kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user
> > set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive.  Now / is
> > full, and every other partition is hardly used.  I can't mount a
> > cdrom to burn a copy of my files from home that I need.  All
> > partitions are ext3.  Is there a way to add more space to /
> > (preferably from /home) without having to re-format both
> > partitions?
> 
> What is your present partitioning scheme?  What do df and mount say?
> 
df:
/dev/sda1   135468134724 0 100% /
tmpfs   452892 0452892   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda5  4807056   1533208   3029664  34% /usr
/dev/sda6  2885780863160   1876032  32% /var
/dev/sda715022  1060 13161   8% /tmp
/dev/sda8 68571736   5397808  59690636   9% /home


mount:
/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/sda5 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sda6 on /var type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sda7 on /tmp type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)

> -- 
> richard
> 
Man, I hope that I don't have to re-format the whole thing...

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Re: Archives of prior testing/unstable packages?

2004-05-21 Thread Paul Johnson
"Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I thought these were at archives.debian.org, that site's down.  Or was
> it somewhere else?

snapshot.debian.net is where it's always been, AFAIK.

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Re: Kernel 2.6 reboot turns off the hard drives

2004-05-21 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Andrei Badea wrote:
On 21.5.2004 0:58 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Thu, 20 May 2004, Andrei Badea wrote:
just upgraded to the 2.6 kernel (2.6.6) and when I reboot, the hard 
drives are turned off. They are then powered on during the boot 

Kernel bug.  I hope it will be fixed in 2.6.7.

Thank you, it seems that you are right:
http://www.webservertalk.com/message220882.html
I understand from this discussion that the bug only affects the 2.6.6 
kernel, but not previous 2.6 versions. Do you know if that is true?

Regards,
Andrei

The necessary patches have also been incorporated into the -mm tree.
Give that a shot.  It fixed the problem for me.
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Re: Compilling Kernel 2.4.25 on Debian 2.0r3

2004-05-21 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Federico Petronio wrote:
Hi, maybe somebody can help me in this:
I recently compiled the 2.4.25 linux kernel (downloaded from kernel.org) 
on Debian Woody 2.0r3 (kernel 2.4) (all from stable branch) because I 
need support for some SCSI controller that is not build on the 2.4 
stable kernel (2.4.18-1).

Everything works well if I put all I need on the kernel, but if I try to 
use modules, I find some problems:

- The initrd image could not be read correctly ("cramfs: bad magic" 
is the message I get)
- "The System.map file is not appropriate to the kernel" claims ps(1).
- I get "unresolve symbol" messages when I try to insert modules.

I guess all this could be caused by incompatibility between the kernel 
and the rest of the utilities needed for compilation, initrd generation, 
etc. Is this possible? Or I should look for other explanation?

Thanks a lot.
How did you build your kernel?  Did you build and install the initial
ramdisk (if necessary) for your new kernel?
-Roberto Sanchez


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Re: DHCP slow renewal, actually times out but mysteriously still gets an IP

2004-05-21 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Stalks wrote:
I have a small network with 6 public IP addresses. The debian server 
runs a DHCP server. I've tried
with the 'apt-get install dhcp' and am now using 'apt-get install 
dhcp3-server'.

When my XP SP1a machine (PC4800 Deluxe with onboard 3COM Gigabit 
Ethernet) attempts to get an IP via
DHCP, windows actually times out. *but* it *does* get an IP.

By default, if a DHCP attempt times out, the client will normally
use the last known good address it was given.
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Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress

2004-05-21 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Kent West wrote:
so, question:  Is it actually possible to run a different X session on
the projector?
Having never had a laptop I could experiment much with, I don't know. I 
came across something last week that led me to believe that a laptop 
essentially has a "second video card" which it uses for the external 
monitor, but I briefly experimented with an older laptop that led me to 
believe that was not the case at least with this laptop.

Some high-end laptops (including Macs) allow the VGA out to be used to
drive a second independent display.  Sadly, most laptops lack this nifty
feature.
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Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3

2004-05-21 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Brent Bailey wrote:
Man, I hope that I don't have to re-format the whole thing...
Nope.  Just use resize2fs to shrink /home and then use the free space
to create a new partition.  Move your data around as necessary.
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Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3

2004-05-21 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Brent Bailey wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:26, richard lyons wrote:
>> On Friday 21 May 2004 16:52, Brent Bailey wrote:
>>> A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3.  I
>>> kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user
>>> set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive.  Now / is
>>> full, and every other partition is hardly used.  I can't mount a
>>> cdrom to burn a copy of my files from home that I need.  All
>>> partitions are ext3.  Is there a way to add more space to /
>>> (preferably from /home) without having to re-format both
>>> partitions?
>> 
>> What is your present partitioning scheme?  What do df and mount say?
>> 
> df:
> /dev/sda1   135468134724 0 100% /
> tmpfs   452892 0452892   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/sda5  4807056   1533208   3029664  34% /usr
> /dev/sda6  2885780863160   1876032  32% /var
> /dev/sda715022  1060 13161   8% /tmp
> /dev/sda8 68571736   5397808  59690636   9% /home
> 
> 
> mount:
> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
> /dev/sda5 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
> /dev/sda6 on /var type ext3 (rw)
> /dev/sda7 on /tmp type ext3 (rw)
> /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw)
> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
> none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
> 
>> --
>> richard

Have a look at parted: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/
It might be what you are looking for.
Another thing that makes live easy in such a situation is if
you had installed LVM. It's designed for these kind of situations.

Regards,
Benedict




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anyone use pdnsd?

2004-05-21 Thread Dan Jacobson
Does anyone use pdnsd on sid with resolvconf installed?
If so what did you have to change to get it to cache anything?
Is just uncommenting resolvconf and adding the semicolon in /etc/pdnsd.conf
enough for you?


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Re: Sarge Install

2004-05-21 Thread Benedict Verheyen
>- Original Message -
>From: Chris
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:17 PM
>Subject: Sarge Install
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I've run into an error on the debootstrap program during install.  I
have successfully installed Sarge before on a newer machine and >it
works great.
>
>This machine though is an older Compaq Presario 6200.
>
>I get entirely through the setup to the point of:
>
>
>Setting up base-config (2.21) ...
>
>Errors were encoutered while processing:
> apt-utils
>umount: /target/dev/pts: No such file or directory
>umount: /target/dev/shm: No such file or directory
>umount: /target/proc/bus/usb: Invalid argument
>ln: /target/usr/bin/awk: File exists
>
>
>And it stops there, says to check messages or pts/3.
>
>Currently I have no usb devices hooked into this machine, but I do know
that the USB bus works.  I've also successfully installed >RedHat 7.0+
on here with no problems.
>
>Any help or pointers would be appreciated!
>
>Thanks!

This seems like a bug in the version of Sarge you where pulling in.
I would try again later.

Regards,
Benedict



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Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-21 Thread Benedict Verheyen
richard lyons wrote:
> I'm asking for a bit of advice here.
>
> I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving as
> many fields as possible.
>
> I could do this by exporting to cvs, importing to gnumeric (or any
> spreadsheet), shuffling the columns around, re-exporting to cvs and
> importing back to abook.  I'll lose a lot more than I want to, as the
> abook cvs is only a partial dump.
>
> I could do it in BASIC - I still vaguely remember my first language!
>
> I could probably do it in perl - but I've never really learned perl,
> and would have to work from the manual.
>
> But it seems to me most rational to use the opportunity to begin
> learning one of the lighter languages that I keep seeing mention of.
> So the question is, which do you people recommend?
>
> The input data will be the cvs dump from kmail, and the output will be
> abook native format, which is a series of numbered paragraphs ,
> reminiscent of an doze .ini file. That is to say, it begins:
>[2]
>name=name
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> address=address_1 address2=address_2 city=hereville ...
> so I assume sed is less than optimal.  It seems like a function I
> might need again, so it is worth having it in a script.
>
> I really do need to equip myself with a convenient scripting language
> for all these day-to-day admin tasks, and I'd like it if it can do a
> little maths for me at time too.  Please advise me which manual to
> open.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> richard

A lot of languages are suited for this. A really easy language to learn
is
Python. There is also php, java and so on. But if i where you i would
first
have a look at Python.

Regards,
Benedict



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DVD+RW gone missing on moving to kernel 2.6.6

2004-05-21 Thread Graham Williams
My "_NEC DVD+RW ND-2100AD, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive" that is easily
identified under 2.4.25 (as /dev/hdc) goes missing under my 2.6.6
kernel. dmesg has no hint at all of the DVD. This is my only IDE
device (using a SATA hard drive).

Is this a matter of finding the right module? The machine is sid,
up-to-date.

Regards,
Graham


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D-I to SATA (hda) but move to 2.6 kernel (sda) fails

2004-05-21 Thread Graham Williams
The current beta 4 debian-installer will install to SATA okay, but
treats the disk as IDE (/dev/hda). In moving to kernel 2.6.6 from sid
this uses SCSI (/dev/sda) and the reboot fails. Is there a migration
path one needs to follow?

Regards,
Graham


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I can't modprobe ipsec!

2004-05-21 Thread Nicolas
Hello,

I try to connect my laptop to a VPN freeswan gateway. The laptop is
running Debian unstable on x86.

However, when I try to modprobe ipsec on my laptop, here's the message I
get:

/usr/share/doc/freeswan-modules-source# modprobe ipsec
/lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: init_module: Operation not
permitted
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters,
including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
/lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: insmod ipsec failed

What's this!?!
I downloaded the freeswan-modules-sources debian package, and recompiled
my kernel and my modules "the debian way", as I use to do. I never had
any problem with that method before.
Do I need to set anything special before modprobing ipsec? I've read the
doc provided by the debian team with the package, and there's nothing
written about that.

Thanks a lot for your help!
Nicolas.


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Re: Ctrl+Alt+F1 not working?

2004-05-21 Thread Victor Munoz
> 
> > Has this been bug reported, do you know?
> 
> Search:http://bugs.debian.org/
> 

 There's a related bug, for gnome-applets (#233702). Using gkb disables
switching to text consoles. I don't use .Xmodmap, so I currently can
use Ctrl-Alt-F1, but I do like using gkb, so I've had this problem. The bug
is not closed, and the result is that it is very uncomfortable to write 
text in Spanish. I tried gswitchit, but I didn't find the documentation was
too user friendly, so I lost patience with it, I admit.

  Victor
  


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Sarge Install --> LOCALES

2004-05-21 Thread Tom Allison
I'm getting a lot of errors regarding LOCALES, especially in Perl 
modules when upgrading.

Example (one of many):
Setting up xprt-common (0.0.9.final-2) ...
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_CTYPE = "en_US.UTF-8",
LANG = (unset)
   are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
When I run 'locale' I get two warnings:
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=POSIX
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
(everything else says "POSIX")
I tried running 'local-gen' which generated a locale for 
en_US.ISO-8859-1 (Nothing about UTF) and it still gives the same errors.

HELP?
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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread Katipo
Mark Ferlatte wrote:
richard lyons said on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:59:23PM -0400:
 

On Wednesday 19 May 2004 17:05, Bojan Baros wrote:
   

Link: http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys
So, what's everyone take on this?
 

Another software patent.  Any really good idea that is to become the 
new standard _has_ to be released open source and copyleft.
   

Uh, it is open source, and copyleft:
http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/
The only reference to possible patent issues is the general "if we have a
patent on it, you get a royalty-free license" statement on the DomainKeys page
(http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys), which seems to indicate that even if
yahoo does have a patent on domainkeys, it doesn't matter, 'cause you can
implement it for free anyway.
M
 

I'm agin it.
I don't care how it's dressed, it is just another form of mechanism that 
we are going to see much more of, that has nothing to do with spam, and 
everything to do with control.

Keep the net open. That is the one factor that guarantees the creatively 
innovative freedom we have attained so far.
If spam is the price we have to pay for that, so be it. Far better than 
losing it, to have it replaced by cable television, complete with ads (a 
more refined form of spam) on speed.
Spam has its place. It's the factor that supplies the motivation for the 
creation of better spam filters.
Who has the best ones now?

Deal with the environment as it stands. The only alternative is 
submission to the concept of more walls and fences, and that's a trade 
off only sheep are prepared to accept.
Regards,

David.
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Re: aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.

2004-05-21 Thread Katipo
Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:55:27PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 

on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Turns out to be a two year old bug.  This colors my opinion of aptitude
very negatively:
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=146207
   

...and:
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=137771
There are apparently three package selection databases.  These should be
either unified or cross-validated:
 - dpkg
 - apt
 - aptitude
Anyone else running into this?
 

Yes.
I was alternating between dselect and aptitude for a while, being 
careful to update in the applicable medium on each occasion before 
upgrading, or just installing/removing single packages. Essentially I 
was just looking for a preferred flavour of package manager.
In the end, I didn't know where I was.
I'm sticking with just aptitude at the moment to cut down on variables.
Regards,

David.
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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread Tom Allison
Adam Aube wrote:
Tom Allison wrote:

Spam RBL's are being attacked on the legal front which puts black lists in
jepardy.  The idea being that businesses have a legal right to solicit
their customers and a third party cannot block that.

Spammers will never win a case against RBL operators, because the RBLs
themselves do not actually block anything. It is the the individual
organization that decides what RBLs (if any) to use, and therefore it is
the individual organization which sets up the blocking that is preventing
the "legitimate solicitation of business".

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/12/spam_king_vs_spamcop/
It's articles like this one that leave me in doubt.  They did get 
repealed shortly after, but the fact that they made enough progress to 
block spamcop is something.  It's a matter of time. 21 Billion USD can't 
get ignored for too long.

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