Help: Network Printer Config

[Larry Smith]

I've had to build a new kernel to get Debian to
recognize my Lan Card.  Now I'm missing the print
spooler commands, and there's no printcap file.

I've included printer support in the kernel,
necessitating including the parallel interface.  It
appears that during boot, parport sees that I actually
have no printer plugged in, and perhaps that's why the
printer commands don't appear.

In truth I don't have a local printer, but as I
understand it, I need the printer commands available
(lpr, etc) and a printcap file to be able to
communicate with a network printer.

How do I get the  right stuff into the kernel to
support a network printer, and how do I configure it. 
I'm used to the "printtool" utility under RedHat that
helped me do this.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Gnupg & Evolution

[James Cameron]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 18:59, Helgi Örn wrote:
> I have this annoying problem with Evolution and gnupg; when I click a
> message lock icon to check the signature Evolution often hangs before
> the lock opens. I then have to brutally kill it and start anew.

Do you have network connection at the same time?
If not, I would expect some trouble.

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Re: Connecting to Network..

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 10:18:02AM -0400, Matthew Tedder wrote:

> There was a point at which it asked me if I wanted to setup a point-to-point 
> connection, but I just want to connect to the network and the gateway server 
> for Internet.  So I said "No" and no other options arose for connecting to 
> the Internet.

Sounds like you just kinda blew past the point you install kernel
modules without telling it what kind of network card you have.  Without
loading the module, and saying no to PPP (dialup) connections, gives
dbootstrap (the installer) no reason to run through the rest of the
networking questions.

> Should I have said yes to a PPP connection?!  Do I now have to set this up 
> manually or is there a utility?

Manually is one way to do it.  Browse through
/lib/modules//kernel/drivers/net/ and find what looks
closest to your network card, and then try insmod  (don't
include the .o).  If you don't get an error message, add the name of the
module to /etc/modules and check out man 5 interfaces to see how to
tweek /etc/network/interfaces to do what you want to do.

I'm not familiar with any network config tools out there, in Debian once
you got the module right, networking's a snap.

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i made a boo-boo

[alephtnull]

Hi, I have made a boo-boo. I recompiled my kernel (after 5 months
doing make dep,make clean, make modules and make modules_install) then
make bzImage then copied bzImage to vmlinuz and backed up vmlinuz
(just in case something goes wrong) then issued the command "lilo" to
update my changes then rebooted...

everything should be ok but when I rebooted, after lilo starts loading
it reboots again and when lilo starts loading, it does this again and
again... Unfortunately, I lost my rescue disk...help!


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Re: Re: More modem problems with kernel 2.4.18

[Seth Carbon]

> Have you taken a look in /etc/serial.conf?  Check very carefully to see if
> any lines are uncommented, and if so that they match what your modem setup
> really is.

Thanks for the idea :)

I have just checked my serial.conf and it seemed alright--but I've
played with it for the past hour anyways.  Still no progress--no matter
what I put in there, the irq still shows as 5 with dmesg and does not
exist in /proc/interrupt.

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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 04:45:12PM -0400, Bill Benedetto wrote:

> Okay.  ntpdate with no REMOTE_MACHINE_NAME_GOES_HERE gives me
>   no servers can be used, exiting

It wasn't a literal, he ment chose a time server to pick on and put it's
name there.  8:o)

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Re: i made a boo-boo

[Chris Kenrick]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 11:31:08PM -0700, alephtnull wrote:
> Hi, I have made a boo-boo. I recompiled my kernel (after 5 months
> doing make dep,make clean, make modules and make modules_install) then
> make bzImage then copied bzImage to vmlinuz and backed up vmlinuz
> (just in case something goes wrong) then issued the command "lilo" to
> update my changes then rebooted...
> 
> everything should be ok but when I rebooted, after lilo starts loading
> it reboots again and when lilo starts loading, it does this again and
> again... Unfortunately, I lost my rescue disk...help!

Well, you're in a bit of a pickle.  For next time, its a good idea to
make a separate LILO entry for the new kernel so you can easily revert
back to the old one if things go wrong.  I would suggest downloading the
Debian rescue disk again (or tomsrtbt), then use that to revert back to
the old kernel (ie mount drive, copy old kernel back to vmlinuz, etc).

- Chris


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Re: digital camera recommendation?

[Craig Dickson]

Henry House wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a digital camera for use with Linux? My goals (in no
> particular order):
> 
> * Good image quality
> * Uses compact flash (the little wafers, each as large as an air-mail stamp)
> * Complete Linux compatibility with OSS drivers
> * Linux-friendly manufacturer
> 
> Any experiences that you can share would be helpful to me.

Considering that digital cameras can cost as little as a hundred bucks
or so or as much as $5000, you might want to specify the price range
you're interested in. Maybe also some technical details like pixel
count, whether you want to use external lenses or flash units, and so
on.

I have a Canon G2, which is a 4 megapixel camera that typically sells
for US$800 or so. It can use Canon external flash units, uses CF cards,
and has a USB interface. Allegedly, gphoto2 works with it, but I wasn't
able to get it to work; gphoto2 insisted the camera wasn't there,
although the kernel's USB device list said it was. That turned out all
to the good, though, because I ended up buying a San Disk SDDR-31 USB CF
card reader, which works with Linux 2.4 kernels with the USB mass
storage driver. So now, instead of turning on my camera and plugging it
into a USB cable, I just pull out the CF card and plug it into the San
Disk reader. Works beautifully.

Craig


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Re: what to use for installfest this saturday?

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:55:08PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> Our lug is having its first installfest this coming Saturday. What would
> be the best debian install for those who want it? 

Depends on what the user wants or needs.  Debian does a lot of
everything.  8:o)

> Any chance of woody being officially released by then?

Odds are around the same as me winning the lottery and Immigration and
Naturalisation Canada approving my emmigration from Oregon to BC by
then.

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Re: Exim authentication

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 01:18:46PM -0700, Mike Mimic wrote:

> Yes, I would like to implement that. The problem is
> that examples use plain text file, but I would like
> to use system accounts (I have shadow passwords).

Yeah, I'm in roughly the same position, myself and have yet to find a
solution for it (but I'm also long off actively looking for it at this
point, more at "Hey, Google accidently found this on a search for
toaster ovens" type stage at this point.

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Re: Exim authentication

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 03:20:48PM -0500, Mark Roach wrote:

> I believe that putting the following in the authentication configuration
> section will allow you to use PAM. You will just need to add a file
> named /etc/pam.d/exim with the appropriate PAM config options

For those of us not familiar with PAM, could we get an example of that,
as well?

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Re: how to boot debian on a oldwolrd ppc ?

[Aaron Hall]

First of all, please set your mailer to wrap your text at approx. 72
characters. It makes responding much easier. Thanks.

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Martin A. Hansen wrote:

> im trying to install debian potato on a 8500 series oldworld
> ppc. everything goes fine besides the "make debian bootable from the
> harddisk"-step.
>
> i dont have macos on the box, i only want debian :-)
>
> it would be nice if i could boot into linux from the harddisk or a
> rescue disk. however, using debian install guide for QUIK doesnt seem
> to work. and i have not been able to find a working rescue.bin image.

Despite being a Mac guy, I don't know the specific answer to your
question. You'll likely get a better answer on the debian-ppc group,
however. You can subscribe and post to it the same was as for
debian-user.

Good luck.

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Re: dhcp-client startup

[Scott Henson]

On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 12:09, Bedford, Donald T. wrote:
> I've been using dhcp-client 2.0pl4-2 w/ Potato and just upgraded to Woody
> (w/ dhcp-client 2.0pl5-11). When I rebooted (and every time since) the dhcp
> client does not pick up an IP address and I have to manually start it - then
> all is well.
> 
> I have replaced the static IP address w/ 'dhcp' in 'interfaces' for eth0 (as
> it was before) but no luck. Where/how does this daemon usually get started?
> Ideas?

it should be in /etc/network/interfaces and look like 
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

If that is what you have, then its something else and you should search
through your logs to see if there are any fishy messages concerning
dhclient.

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Re: DOSEMU question

[Paul Johnson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 04:35:31PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello  was wondering if anyone could give me some feedback on the dosemue 

What version of dosemu?  What exactly is the error message?  Cut and
paste output would be helpful for people to diagnose what's going wrong,
as would using correct punctuation and paragraphs.

> I have not been active  in my LINUX OS  for a while  have been busy. I just 
> cannot get it to work right  I have  kernel 2.2.12 #2 at least thats what it 
> tells me when I  install 
> the operating system. 

Not sure how relevant the kernel version is here, but you can find out
for sure what kernel version you have with uname -a

With mine, that gives me
Linux ursine 2.4.18 #1 Tue Apr 16 21:09:50 PDT 2002 i686 unknown

Left to right, this tells you what flavor of unix you're using, the
hostname of the system, version of the kernel, not sure what the #1 is,
the time and date the kernel was built, what the architecture of the
kernel is, and I'm not sure what it's saying unknown about.

> memory, and a 4 gig hard drive. It isn't much but it works. When I tried to 
> configure the emulator with the dexe it would throw me an error that there 
> seemed to be no bootable DOS  partition. There definitely is one  because 
> thetas all that is on my computer right now, and I can access my c drive  
> with the mount  /dev/hda1 /c  command  so I know that it is there. I guess 

I could be wrong, but I don't think you have to mount it, just point the
emulator at the device itself.  I think the user running dosemu will
need to have permissions on that device, someone more knowledgable with
dosemu could help on this.

> the point to my question is  would there be anyone who has successfully ran 
> the dosemu and got it configured so that there could be some correspondence 
> with me to get mine to run, or is there any ongoing work being done with it.  
> I can be contacted  at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Consider subscribing to debian-user for a while to see if anybody posts
something to the list that you might find helpful (and it happens
frequently).

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beep unconditionally

[Dan Jacobson]

How does one get a beep unconditionally from that little speaker be it
from a batch job or whatever.  Assume I can give a valid $XAUTHORITY.

I used to do the below, but now:
$ echo -e \\a > /dev/console 
bash: /dev/console: Permission denied
Now only root can make it beep.  Without resorting to root powers,
what can one do?
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Digicams

[Ted]

HI..
	Has anyone any comments on the Fujifilm 1400 zoom camera ?..I cab now buy 
this model for around £100...Any comments appreciated

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Re: beep unconditionally

[Alex Malinovich]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 00:39, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> How does one get a beep unconditionally from that little speaker be it
> from a batch job or whatever.  Assume I can give a valid $XAUTHORITY.
> 
> I used to do the below, but now:
> $ echo -e \\a > /dev/console 
> bash: /dev/console: Permission denied
> Now only root can make it beep.  Without resorting to root powers,
> what can one do?

apt-cache show beep

"Sound" like what you're looking for? No pun intended... oh hell who am
I kidding, of course it was intended! :)

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Re: beep unconditionally

[Tom Cook]

On  0, Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How does one get a beep unconditionally from that little speaker be it
> from a batch job or whatever.  Assume I can give a valid $XAUTHORITY.
> 
> I used to do the below, but now:
> $ echo -e \\a > /dev/console 
> bash: /dev/console: Permission denied
> Now only root can make it beep.  Without resorting to root powers,
> what can one do?

echo -e \\a

works for me, both in a shell and a script.

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Re: beep unconditionally

[Steve Juranich]

> How does one get a beep unconditionally from that little speaker be it
> from a batch job or whatever.  Assume I can give a valid $XAUTHORITY.
> 
> I used to do the below, but now:
> $ echo -e \\a > /dev/console 
> bash: /dev/console: Permission denied
> Now only root can make it beep.  Without resorting to root powers,
> what can one do?
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Try:

printf "\a"

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gnome and random beeping

[Baan Zoltan]

I'm using gnome-sawfish, and sometimes my speaker beeping. A haven't
found anything in the log files, so it semms to me my gnome beeping
causeless.

Any idea how to solve this problem?

It's gnome 1.4.1

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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Jerome BENOIT]

Bill Benedetto wrote:

Jerome BENOIT writes:




  Jerome> I have just tried
  Jerome>
  Jerome> ntpdate 17.254.0.26
  Jerome>
  Jerome> and I got exactly the same error message
  Jerome> (17.254.0.26 is the ip btained via ping for ntp.apple.com)
  Jerome>
  Jerome> Very strange !

Really!

Let me see if I have this straight...

  ntpdate ntp.apple.com  FAILS... ?

  ntpdate 17.254.0.26FAILS... ?

  ntpdate -d -v -B ntp.apple.com  WORKS... ?

Do I have that correct?



Yes !

You can try with -q option as well.

I am suspecting a privilege error somewhere




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Re: Solutions for booting dual OS (separate HDs)

[arthur_dent]

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 01:06, David P James wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I am still booting from floppy and it takes ages so I look for help:
> >
> > I have hda with win2k on it. Boots if no cd-rom or floppies in drives.
> >
> > And then there is the hdb with debian. Boots from floppy (loads the
> > kernel etcetc from floppy).
> >
> > So yes these are separate HD's.
> >
> > Now from previous experience I *know* that win2k is quite 'sensitive'
> > when it comes to booting. I tried boot manager called GAG earlier, but
> > managed on multiple attempts to lose the Master Boot Record to Win2k and
> > had to reinstall from backup images... So no luck.
> >
> > AFAIK lilo will also overwrite win2k boot manager in a way that will make
> > poor little win sulk and not ever be found again. So answer to any of the
> > three below will solve my problems, II. or III. being more robust I
> > suppose.
> >
> > I.
> > How do I make an boot disk for the hdb/debian so that it only boots from
> > the floppy, but loads kernel etc from HD?
> >
> > II.
> > Is there such a thing as relatively foolproof and simple way (aside from
> > BIOS ;) ) to install an boot manager that does not
> > touch/corrupt/overwrite the Win2k? Any links and experiences welcome.


Quote, "MCSE Windows 2000 Professional for Dummies."
Page 75. "Problems have been reported with the partitioning code that 
runs 
as part of the Windows 2000 setup program. Therefore, only use the Windows 
2000 Setup program to partition the volume onto which Windows 2000 is to be 
installed. Use Windows 2000 Disk Management console (I've still found this 
dodgy) to create or format other partitions, or use a third party 
partitioning tool such as Partition Magic.
...On a dual boot machine with Windows 9x, you may configure a Windows 
2000 partition as NTFS, but the primary (boot) partition must be either Fat 
or( inthe case of Windows 95osr2+ and Windows 98) FAT 32." Unquote.

If it's this much hassle with fat imagine the problems with ext2 or 3 ??
 I've dual booted using lilo and Win 2000 and it was o.k. for a while then 
after a few days seemingly randomly the boot menu dissapears and it loads the 
old pre dual boot O/S.
I tried it with Win 98 and Win XP Professioal lately Win 98 exixting on one 
disk and Win XP on another. It dual boots fine for a random number of days 
then no go. It wipes all the boot O/S selection menu and defaults to Win98.
I'm about to try loading woody Debain 3.0 to dual boot with Win2K and will 
use lilo and see what happens to Win2k. I thought I did this a while back and 
had no problems but that may have been with XP Pro I'm not sure.
Good Luck:-)


>> >
> > III.
> > Now as I write this I started to wonder if it would be possible to
> > add the lead to linux boot record into windows BOOT.INI ? For win2k
> > boot.ini says:
> > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
> > Professional" /fastdetect Anyone ever try it 'the windows way'?
> >
> > Well any help much appreciated,
> >
> > Jani
>
> I'm not entirely sure if this is what you're looking for,
> but you might want to take a look at this grub multi-boot
> howto (the example system has all the OSs on the same hd,
> though that shouldn't really matter as you have win on the
> first hd).


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Re: xemacs background won't show an .xpm file

[Glyn Millington]

Glen Lee Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>
> Well, sort of not really.  I have extensive modifications, most of which 
> are in various files in ~/lisp.  When I installed xemacs on this box, I 
> first copied all my configuration files over from the other server.  On 
> installing xemacs, it stated that it wanted to make some changes 
> regarding moving configuration files from ~/ to ~/.xemacs, which I 
> agreed to.  init.el reads:

That looks OK to me, but I don't know much about it.


>
> Sweet!  That's what I was looking for!  Is there a resource somewhere 
> that gives an exhaustive list of the object model X uses?
>

There is a list in the NEWS file, but maybe more usefully there should be
a sample .Xdefaults file under Help -> Sampleslots of good stuff in
there.


One more thought - round your nice pixmap text area you have the "fringe" of
Xemacs grey.  If as well as 

Emacs*EmacsFrame.default.attributeBackgroundPixmap: 
~/aaa/bitmaps/backgroundtile.xpm

you also have 

Emacs.default.attributeBackground:  whiteor some suitable shade of
grey, matching your pixmap, the grey streak will disappear.


hth

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Re: Digicams

[Gregor Szyrach]

Hi Ted,

On Thu, 2002-06-20, 08.12 Ted wrote:
>   Has anyone any comments on the Fujifilm 1400 zoom camera ?..I cab now 
> buy 
> this model for around £100...Any comments appreciated

I bought the FujiFinePix 4800 Zoom, and it works perfectly under Debian
 woody 3.0, although i don't know if it is supported by gphoto.
I'm really positive about the 4800 zoom.

You can cleanly mount it as a mass storage device and then copy the pics
 to harddisk. You can even use it as a data medium to transport data
 (all kinds of). I integrated the cam as described for the FFPix 1400
 zoom:
http://modular.fas.harvard.edu/fuji4700/  
is an interesting page how to integrate the camera into Linux, and 
describes the cam to soem extent.
.
This site 
http://lhd.zdnet.com/db/dispproduct.php3?DISP?2846
also carries useful informmation.

Regards
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jigdo-lite problem...

[Bruno Boettcher]

Hello!

i need to make rapidly some bootable debian CD's for my father who
hasn't broadband net, and rapidly needs a replacement machine...

reading through the website, the actual system seems to use jigdo,
  unfortunately the usage of that thing doens't seem as straightforward
  as it is sayd in the docu and the webpage

even before beginning to do what its supposed to do, it stops

all i need is an actual snapshot of woody but all the thing does is:
jigdo-lite ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/woody/jigdo/

-
Jigsaw Download "lite"
Copyright 2001-2002 by Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Loading settings from `/home/bboett/.jigdo-lite'

Downloading .jigdo file
--09:45:07--  ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/woody/jigdo/
   => `.listing'
Auflösen des Hostnamen »ftp.fsn.hu« fertig.
Verbindungsaufbau zu ftp.fsn.hu[195.228.252.132]:21... verbunden.
Anmelden als anonymous ... Angemeldet!
==> SYST ... fertig.==> PWD ... fertig.
==> TYPE I ... fertig.  ==> CWD /pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/woody/jigdo 
... fertig.
==> PASV ... fertig.==> LIST ... fertig.

[ <=> ] 1,211 40.78K/s 

09:45:10 (40.78 KB/s) - ».listing« gespeichert [1211]

».listing« gelöscht.
HTML-artigen Index nach »index.html« [3321] schreiben.

-
Images offered by 
`ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/woody/jigdo/':

-
If you already have a previous version of the image you are
downloading, jigdo can re-use files on the old image that are also
present on the new image, and you do not need to download them
again. Mount the old CD ROM and enter the path it is mounted under
(e.g. `/mnt/cdrom'). Alternatively, just press enter if you want
to start the download of any remaining files.

Downloading .template file
: Unsupported scheme.
File `' does not exist!

and here it stops what is wrong? what file am i supposed to give?? i have
no debian CD to enter, nor to resume from, its the first call to this thing...

i am running myself under debian unstable and did just update my system whilst
installing jigdo...

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Re: beep unconditionally

[James Cameron]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 17:13, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> apt-cache show beep

And then there's "apt-cache show morse" for when you really what the
machine to tell you what's wrong through the speaker.  ;-)

Friends of mine have an ip-up.d script for their 56k modem that lets
them know it is time to hit the net.

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Re: Deactivating swap ..... takes forever

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.06.20.0118 +0200]:
> > it might be a problem. the 2.4 kernel has the most embarassing
> > virtual memory management i've seen. quite possible it's the cause.
> > 2.2 still had fair (not good) virtual memory management.
> 
> I hope you aren't talking about that pre-2.4.10 "let's kill init if 
> we're short on memory" VM?

i don't think post-2.4.10 is any better on virtual memory. chuck
cranor would faint. but no, i wasn't speaking of that pre-2.4.10
thingy.

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SQUID iptables error.

[jon]

Hi there,

trying to set up SQUID and following the TransparentProxy-mini-HOWTO and 
getting to the

# iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 
3128

and get ...

iptables: No chain/target/match by that name

# iptables -t nat -L

gives

Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source  destination

Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source  destination
MASQUERADE  all  --  anywhere anywhere

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source  destination

I've googled but couldn't find much help.
Any ideas?

TIA.
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Re: SQUID iptables error.

[Crispin Wellington]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 16:13, jon wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> trying to set up SQUID and following the TransparentProxy-mini-HOWTO and 
> getting to the
> 
> # iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT 
> --to-port 3128
> 
> and get ...
> 
> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
> 
> # iptables -t nat -L
> 
> gives
> 
> Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source  destination
> 
> Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source  destination
> MASQUERADE  all  --  anywhere anywhere
> 
> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source  destination
> 
> I've googled but couldn't find much help.
> Any ideas?

run modconf as root

go down to kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter
then make sure ip_conntrack, ip_tables, ipt_REDIRECT, iptable_filter and
iptable_nat are included.

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How many files can be put in one directory?

[Q. Gong]

Hi,

A general question: what's the maximum number of files located in one
directory?

Qian


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Odd entry in my log files

[Andrew Pritchard]

I've got check log running on my woody box. The box is running an internal
only DNS server behind a firewall that should be denying access to the
outside world. 'checklog' picked out a couple of 'unusual' entries which
I've not seen before in my logs:

Jun 19 11:56:13 thebox named[202]: invalid RR type 'A6' in additional
section (name = 'ns0.wossname.org.uk') from [213.212.70.59].53
Jun 19 11:56:13 thebox named[202]: invalid RR type 'A6' in additional
section (name = 'wossname.org.uk') from [213.212.70.59].53
Jun 19 11:56:13 thebox named[202]: invalid RR type 'A6' in additional
section (name = 'ns0.wossname.org.uk') from [213.212.70.59].53
Jun 19 11:56:13 thebox named[202]: invalid RR type 'A6' in additional
section (name = 'wossname.org.uk') from [213.212.70.59].53
Jun 19 11:56:13 thebox named[202]: invalid RR type 'A6' in additional
section (name = 'ns0.wossname.org.uk') from [213.212.70.59].53
Jun 19 11:56:13 thebox named[202]: invalid RR type 'A6' in additional
section (name = 'wossname.org.uk') from [213.212.70.59].53
Jun 19 11:56:13 thebox named[202]: invalid RR type 'A6' in additional
section (name = 'ns0.wossname.org.uk') from [213.212.70.59].53
Jun 19 11:56:13 thebox named[202]: invalid RR type 'A6' in additional
section (name = 'wossname.org.uk') from [213.212.70.59].53

I checked 213.212.70.59:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ host 213.212.70.59
Name: ns1.caladan.net.uk
Address: 213.212.70.59

caladan.net.uk appears to be a co-location outfit based in Manchester UK.
wossname.org.uk appears to be someone's hope pages. Until I saw these
entries I'd never heard of wossname.org.uk or caladan.net.uk.

What is happening here? And is it something I should be worried about?
There doesn't appear to be anything different about my bind config on
thebox. I've not seen anything else in the logs since seeing these
entries.

Cheers,

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Re: Odd entry in my log files

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Andrew Pritchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.06.20.1033 +0200]:
> What is happening here? And is it something I should be worried about?
> There doesn't appear to be anything different about my bind config on
> thebox. I've not seen anything else in the logs since seeing these
> entries.

the zone has IPv6 entries in it, which your nameserver apparently
can't handle. nothing to worry about though.

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Re: How many files can be put in one directory?

[Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 10:32, Q. Gong wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A general question: what's the maximum number of files located in one
> directory?

Depends on the filesystem. And depends on how you interpret your
question (how many files can you put in a directory and still have
reasonable performance vs. how many files can you put in a directory,
absolutely, if you're prepared to wait 2 years after doing 'ls').

Generally: many. On ext2, performance will degrade badly, though, as
files are put in a list (without indexing etc.), but this should
generally only be when you reach tens of thousands of entries.

reiserfs (and other fs with clever directory layouts) are much faster
even with very large directories.

don't know, perhaps somebody else has some hard data?

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fbset for all ttys?

[andrej hocevar]

I thought I was clever and added an init script for setting the concole
with fbset. I've figured that "fbset -t 13334 144 24 29 3 136 6" yields
the best results. But it affects only the first console -- I have to
run the script every time I log in.

Is there a way to make it permanent for all consoles?

andrej

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Re: How many files can be put in one directory?

[Mark Janssen]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 10:32, Q. Gong wrote:
> A general question: what's the maximum number of files located in one
> directory?

As many as you want... but accessing them will get slower when more
files are placed in a directory.

I don't know the exact numbers from mind, but files (directory entries)
are placed in i-nodes. There is a limited number of space in these
i-nodes, when it fils up there will be pointers to new i-nodes that
contain more files for this directory.

The more files... the slower accessing them gets...

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Re: Odd entry in my log files

[Andrew Pritchard]

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Andrew Pritchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.06.20.1033 +0200]:
> > What is happening here? And is it something I should be worried about?
> > There doesn't appear to be anything different about my bind config on
> > thebox. I've not seen anything else in the logs since seeing these
> > entries.
>
> the zone has IPv6 entries in it, which your nameserver apparently
> can't handle. nothing to worry about though.

Glad there is nothing for me to worry about.

Ok - so why am I seeing them now? Just trying to fathom the inner workings
of bind so I don't panic again next time I see similar entries. Why is my
DNS server interacting in this way?





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Re: Exim authentication

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 11:16:04PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
| On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 03:20:48PM -0500, Mark Roach wrote:
| 
| > I believe that putting the following in the authentication configuration
| > section will allow you to use PAM. You will just need to add a file
| > named /etc/pam.d/exim with the appropriate PAM config options
| 
| For those of us not familiar with PAM, could we get an example of that,
| as well?

It will look much like the other files in /etc/pam.d, but with any
different options you may prefer.  For example :

authrequiredpam_unix.so
account requiredpam_unix.so
passwordrequiredpam_unix.so

If you use a different authentication source (eg ldap instead of
/etc/passwd) you would include those options.  

(Actually, I'm not terribly familiar with PAM, but I've managed to
convert a couple machines at work to use LDAP instead :-).  It's
pretty cool.)

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debian version names

[Alexander Carôt]

Hi to all,

can anyone tell me what the debian version names are ? F.e. what is potato,
what is woody or is there a link where it is explained ?

Thanks

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Re: debian version names

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Alexander Carôt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.06.20.1103 +0200]:
> can anyone tell me what the debian version names are ? F.e. what is potato,
> what is woody or is there a link where it is explained ?

http://www.debian.org/releases/
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html#s-sourceforcodenames

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Re: debian version names

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:03:04AM -0700, Alexander Car?t wrote:
> Hi to all,
> 
> can anyone tell me what the debian version names are ? F.e. what is potato,
> what is woody or is there a link where it is explained ?

Look for the Debian Project History at .

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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.18

[Johann Spies]

On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 08:32:38PM +0200, Jan Groenewald wrote:

> I used apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20... #(from 2.2.19pre..)
> Is this wrong/bad style? This is not mentioned as a proper method in
> the docs/link above. What about kernel-headers-... then?

Nothing wrong with your "style". But you are talking of something
different.  They were talking about compiling a new kernel and you are
talking about installing a compiled kernel using apt.

Regards.
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Re: fbset for all ttys?

[Ulf Rompe]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (andrej hocevar) writes:

> I thought I was clever and added an init script for setting the
> concole with fbset. I've figured that "fbset -t 13334 144 24 29 3
> 136 6" yields the best results. But it affects only the first
> console -- I have to run the script every time I log in.

Just an idea - can't test it at the moment. What happens if you put
something like this into your script?

for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do
chvt $i
fbset -t 13334 144 24 29 3 136 6
done

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Re: What is happening to testing/unstable?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 19 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> 
[snip]

> > I also tried a specific upgrade to the new version of mozilla (1.0.0)
> > which is listed in unstable but was told that my version (from testing)
> > was the latest, which it isn't.
> 
> Sounds like a buggy apt preferences file, assuming that that's what
> you're using.
> 

I don't have such a file. I didn't have /etc/apt.conf either, but I
copied it from /usr/share/doc/apt/examples.

But something seems to be wrong with apt-get. I have no
/var/cache/apt/available and /var/lib/dpkg/available has nothing in it.

Something is apparently misconfigured, but what???

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Re: beep unconditionally

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:13:07AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 00:39, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > How does one get a beep unconditionally from that little speaker be it
> > from a batch job or whatever.  Assume I can give a valid $XAUTHORITY.
> > 
> > I used to do the below, but now:
> > $ echo -e \\a > /dev/console 
> > bash: /dev/console: Permission denied
> > Now only root can make it beep.  Without resorting to root powers,
> > what can one do?
> 
> apt-cache show beep

Or if you're into silly little tunes:

$ apt-cache show ditty

(I use it on my firewall to tell me the dialup connection is going
up/down. Cute)

> "Sound" like what you're looking for? No pun intended... oh hell who am
> I kidding, of course it was intended! :)

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Re: fbset for all ttys?

[Johann Spies]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:21:59AM +0200, Ulf Rompe wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andrej hocevar) writes:
> 
> > I thought I was clever and added an init script for setting the
> > concole with fbset. I've figured that "fbset -t 13334 144 24 29 3
> > 136 6" yields the best results. But it affects only the first
> > console -- I have to run the script every time I log in.

fbset -t 13334 144 24 29 3 136 6 -a

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Re: What is happening to testing/unstable?

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 10:24:54AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 19 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> > > I also tried a specific upgrade to the new version of mozilla (1.0.0)
> > > which is listed in unstable but was told that my version (from testing)
> > > was the latest, which it isn't.
> > 
> > Sounds like a buggy apt preferences file, assuming that that's what
> > you're using.
> 
> I don't have such a file. I didn't have /etc/apt.conf either, but I
> copied it from /usr/share/doc/apt/examples.

It should be /etc/apt/apt.conf rather than /etc/apt.conf. What's in
/etc/apt/sources.list?

> But something seems to be wrong with apt-get. I have no
> /var/cache/apt/available

That shouldn't exist anyway: just archives, pkgcache.bin, and possibly
srcpkgcache.bin.

> and /var/lib/dpkg/available has nothing in it.

Run 'dselect update'.

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Re: fbset for all ttys?

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:40:13AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:21:59AM +0200, Ulf Rompe wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andrej hocevar) writes:
> > > I thought I was clever and added an init script for setting the
> > > concole with fbset. I've figured that "fbset -t 13334 144 24 29 3
> > > 136 6" yields the best results. But it affects only the first
> > > console -- I have to run the script every time I log in.
> 
> fbset -t 13334 144 24 29 3 136 6 -a

Aargh, the man page is out of date and doesn't mention that. Thanks, I
was wondering about this myself.

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Re: Odd entry in my log files

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 09:57:11AM +0100, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, martin f krafft wrote:
> > also sprach Andrew Pritchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.06.20.1033 +0200]:
> > > What is happening here? And is it something I should be worried about?
> > > There doesn't appear to be anything different about my bind config on
> > > thebox. I've not seen anything else in the logs since seeing these
> > > entries.
> >
> > the zone has IPv6 entries in it, which your nameserver apparently
> > can't handle. nothing to worry about though.
> 
> Glad there is nothing for me to worry about.
> 
> Ok - so why am I seeing them now? Just trying to fathom the inner workings
> of bind so I don't panic again next time I see similar entries. Why is my
> DNS server interacting in this way?

I've seen some similar ones in my logs. 

My faviourite suspect atm: spamassassin: It will try to do some checks
on the headers of incoming mails (e.g. to see if there is an MX for the
From: domain), dynamic black-list checks and God Knows What...

[Or it may be a wild goosechase. Apologies in advance if that is the
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On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:03:04AM -0700, Alexander Car?t wrote:

> can anyone tell me what the debian version names are ? F.e. what is potato,
> what is woody or is there a link where it is explained ?

Toy Story character names.  Previous ones since I've used Debian were bo
and hamm, for example.

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Re: fbset for all ttys?

[Karoly VEGH]

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, andrej hocevar wrote:

> Is there a way to make it permanent for all consoles?

fbset -a

create an initscript, /etc/rc2.d/S99fbset, like:

#!/bin/sh
echo "" > /dev/tty2
echo "" > /dev/tty3
echo "" > /dev/tty4
echo "" > /dev/tty5
echo "" > /dev/tty6
fbset -a 640x480-100

echo's u need, cause fbset works only on consoles on which there is
already something...

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Re: Replacing a new HD

[Ron Johnson]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 23:00, Erik Mathisen wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just bought a new hard drive for my system.  I pan on using it and
> taking the disk that currently in it and using it on another box.  I
> want to totally replicate what is happening on the disk.  Is there a
> pretty painless way of doing this?

tar or cpio are the standard tools.  I had great grief with soft
links across partitions, though.  I.e.
/dev/hda1   /boot
/dev/hda2   /
/dev/hda3   /home

If I copy /boot to /new/boot on /dev/hdc1, and / to /new/treeroot
on /dev/hdc2, then symlinks like /vmlinuz which are now 
/new/treeroot/vmlinuz still point back to /dev/hda1 instead of
automagically pointing to /dev/hdb1.

Absolute symlinks (like all the stuff in /etc/alternatives) really
fouled up the whole operation...

Maybe if tarring / to tape (excluding /var & /home) then restoring
to the new device would work.  The absolute symlinks might still
bollix things up, though.
 
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Re: Help: Network Printer Config

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 00:02, Larry Smith wrote:
> I've had to build a new kernel to get Debian to
> recognize my Lan Card.  Now I'm missing the print
> spooler commands, and there's no printcap file.
> 
> I've included printer support in the kernel,
> necessitating including the parallel interface.  It
> appears that during boot, parport sees that I actually
> have no printer plugged in, and perhaps that's why the
> printer commands don't appear.
> 
> In truth I don't have a local printer, but as I
> understand it, I need the printer commands available
> (lpr, etc) and a printcap file to be able to
> communicate with a network printer.
> 
> How do I get the  right stuff into the kernel to
> support a network printer, and how do I configure it. 
> I'm used to the "printtool" utility under RedHat that
> helped me do this.

Printing is part of the kernel?  Maybe the USB print drivers,
and of course you must tell the kernel about parallel ports, but 
I don't remember seeing printer support per-se in the kernel.  Have
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Re: generic ps2 mouse driver

[Karsten M. Self]

on Wed, Jun 19, 2002, Raffaele Sandrini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I need to set up a large amout of systems with Debian. While the systems are 
> more or less the same (or ordered in bigger groups) there are many different 
> ps2 mice around. They are "randomly" atached to a system and we don't care 
> about wich mouse is pluged to wich system. The range goes from IntelliMouse 
> over "normal" "nonwheeled" mouse to logitech ones.
> I ask you now if there is a 100% way (99% are enough :-) ) to sucessfully run 
> all mice on all systems with the same config --> is there a generic ps2 
> Driver? I search something like "Standard PS/2 Mouse" on M$ Windows wich can 
> manage all ps2 mice.
> 
> Its not necessary that gpm can manage it only XFree86 has to.

In /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, you'll want the following section:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
Option  "Protocol"  "Intellimouse"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
EndSection

...which will work for virtually any PS/2 based mouse.  Possibly
substituting "Microsoft" for Intellimouse (the IM is a wheel-mouse)
above.

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changes in config of exim/mail stuff

[Alex Hunsley]

I'm changing the local network name of a few machines as well as their IP
addresses (because I'm putting them on a different local subnet, e.g.
192.168.1.0 rather than 192.168.0.0). Changing the static IP addresses is
easy, but I've not changed a network name before. 

To clarify what I mean by network name: I mean that if my machines are called
foo1, foo2, foo3, and the network name is foosoft, then the machines can be
resolved locally as foo1.foosoft, foo2.foosoft, and so on.

Anyway, I've had a look for files containing 'foosoft', as it were, and most
are as I'd expect, e.g. resolv.conf, hosts... however, exim.conf and
/etc/mailname also contain 'foosoft'. What steps should I take to get exim to
re-read the config if I change these files? 

thanks!

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Re: What is happening to testing/unstable?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 20 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 10:24:54AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > On 19 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> 
> > > > I also tried a specific upgrade to the new version of mozilla (1.0.0)
> > > > which is listed in unstable but was told that my version (from testing)
> > > > was the latest, which it isn't.
> > > 
> > > Sounds like a buggy apt preferences file, assuming that that's what
> > > you're using.
> > 
> > I don't have such a file. I didn't have /etc/apt.conf either, but I
> > copied it from /usr/share/doc/apt/examples.
> 
> It should be /etc/apt/apt.conf rather than /etc/apt.conf. What's in
> /etc/apt/sources.list?
> 

Sorry, typo; I had it as /etc/apt/apt.conf

> > But something seems to be wrong with apt-get. I have no
> > /var/cache/apt/available
> 
> That shouldn't exist anyway: just archives, pkgcache.bin, and possibly
> srcpkgcache.bin.
> 
> > and /var/lib/dpkg/available has nothing in it.
> 
> Run 'dselect update'.
> 

Many thanks; that seems to have fixed it!

Isn't it supposed to be run automatically by apt-get?

Anthony


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Re: numeric keypad vs. nvi/vim ???

[Lorens Kulla]

I don't know why this happens. Try turning Numlock off then on again.
Make sure it goes off before you turn it back on. It may stay on the
first time you hit it.

On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 19:28, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> 
> Thank you, for your participation.
> 
> Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 10:30:41AM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> > |
> > | Is there some configuration option that allows the numeric keypad to
> > | type numbers into either nvi or vim?
> > |
> > | Currently, typing 0 - 9 puts p - y into the document, oddly inserting
> > | lines _above_ the current line with each key press . . .
> > |
> > | What am I doing wrong?
> > 
> > Is num-lock on?  I can type numerals in a vim buffer with the keypad
> > if the numlock is on.
> 
> OK, I have narrowed it down to an issue with putty.
> 
> When I use nvi/vim from kde or cli, numeric keypad behaves as I expect.
> 
> When I ssh from one debian box to other debian boxen and use nvi/vim,
> again, numeric keypad behaves as expected.
> 
> However, when I use putty to ssh into these remote debian boxen from our
> windoze boxen, I get this bizarre, unexpected behaviour!
> 
> I just pored through putty's docs, found nothing and opened a bug report
> with them.
> 
> Anybody else experienced this?  Any ideas?
> 
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> 
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Re: How many files can be put in one directory?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Jun 20, 2002, Mark Janssen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 10:32, Q. Gong wrote:
> > A general question: what's the maximum number of files located in one
> > directory?
> 
> As many as you want... but accessing them will get slower when more
> files are placed in a directory.

The hard limits are going to be inodes (fixed number per filesystem) and
probably some struct limits in the filesystem, latter of which are
likely to be quite large.

I've got a largeish directory here:

$ time \ls -h | wc -l
124657

real0m8.239s
user0m3.250s
sys 0m0.250s

...running reiserfs.  Actually, reading the directory isn't the hard
part, it's adding entries.  I'd strongly recommend you keep ext2fs to a
few thousand entries.  Take a look at how squid creates its directories
for storing stuff.  You can experiment with this yourself using a
trivial shell script.

> I don't know the exact numbers from mind, but files (directory entries)
> are placed in i-nodes. There is a limited number of space in these
> i-nodes, when it fils up there will be pointers to new i-nodes that
> contain more files for this directory.
> 
> The more files... the slower accessing them gets...

For ext2/3, yes.  The directory is a list, which must be scanned.  For
reiserfs, no.  The directory is a hash, and operations are constant
regardless of size, less time to load the hash.


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Replacing kernel packages via apt

[Patrick Ohly]

Hi,

I have built a patched kernel 2.4.18 with
make-kpkg --initrd --revision=3:pallas.2.1 kernel_image kernel_headers
kernel_doc

I generated a Package.gz and changed the sources.list so that
apt-get correctly finds my kernel-image-2.4.18 with revision
pallas.2.1.

I used epochs, just to be sure, but still e.g. kernel-headers-2.4.18
with revision 2.4.18-5 (the original one from Debian) is not replaced
by apt-get with the (in my opinion) more recent pallas.2.1:
"apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.18" insists that the installed
2.4.18-5 is the most recent one, and dselect also shows this
version under "available".

After I installed my own package with dpkg, dselect changes its mind
and says that my pallas.2.1 is "available", and "apt-get --reinstall
install kernel-headers-2.4.18" will also use my own version.

Any idea why? Of course I could use "dpkg -i" as a workaround, but
I'd like to understand the problem.

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Re: Digicams

[Jerome Lacoste]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 10:39, Gregor Szyrach wrote:
> Hi Ted,
> 
> On Thu, 2002-06-20, 08.12 Ted wrote:
> > Has anyone any comments on the Fujifilm 1400 zoom camera ?..I cab now 
> > buy 
> > this model for around £100...Any comments appreciated
> 
> I bought the FujiFinePix 4800 Zoom, and it works perfectly under Debian
>  woody 3.0, although i don't know if it is supported by gphoto.

You don't need gphoto as it is accessible with the usb-storage module.
I have a FinePix F601 Zoom here.
Works like a charm

Jerome



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Re: fbset for all ttys?

[andrej hocevar]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:21:59AM +0200, Ulf Rompe wrote:
> 
> Just an idea - can't test it at the moment. What happens if you put
> something like this into your script?
> 
> for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do
> chvt $i
> fbset -t 13334 144 24 29 3 136 6
> done

Unfortunatelly, not much. I get bounced into the last specified
console with no changes ...

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Re: som no debian

[Francisco M Neto]

Olá,

» Assim falou Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata em Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 04:02:37PM 
-0300:

> tenho uma SB16 bits ISA bem antiga, e ela funcionava perfeitamente no RH
> 7.2
> Eu instalei o debian potato 2.3, e nao consegui fazer o som funcionar com o
> alsa.
> minha tentativa foi compilar o kernel, mas , apesar de ter escolhido
> corretamente os parametros, minha placa nao funciona. 
> 
> com o comando cat /proc/sound  tenho as informacaoes da placa de som... 

Experimente usar o modconf, um programinha da Debian feito pra 
gerenciar os módulos do kernel.
Nele, selecione o módulo 'sb', que está na secao 'misc'. 
O modconf vai pedir as configuracoes de irq, io e dma, que eu suponho 
que vc tenha (cat /proc/sound). Se vc nao tiver essas informacoes, tente usar o 
aplicativo da soundblaster para descobrir ou entao use o isapnp (apt-get 
install isa-pnp; man isapnp).

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Nautilus Broken Dependency (on unstable)

[Taegil Noh]

Looks like newly added Nautilus packages(libnautilus0 nautilus, libeel)
have some wrong dependency.

they want esd package version 0.2.27, but there are only
0.2.23 versions in current unstable...


Well, I know, it is unstable, and it can happen...
I hope they fix this up next morning...

(So I don't need to make a go around way to install
Nautilus... :)

Is this kind of bugs are need to be reported or not?

hmm.

nayas



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Re: How many files can be put in one directory?

[Taegil Noh]

Depends on the filesystem. And depends on how you interpret your
question (how many files can you put in a directory and still have
reasonable performance vs. how many files can you put in a directory,
absolutely, if you're prepared to wait 2 years after doing 'ls').
 


File System is one matter, and shell environment is another.
While ext2/3 and resistfs will surely contain more than
million files in a directory, (or anywhere anyhow)
Many shells like bash and csh won't process them
cleary.

you will just see the wild card characters cannot
process every names. (try ls *.txt, in a directory
that holds more than 20thousand files of .txt)
It gives some error on my Bash, months ago.

In shorts, Shells don't like long long list of
files.

Keep it short list. by the way, wasn't that what the
concepts of 'directory' was for? :]

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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Jerome BENOIT]

Bill Benedetto wrote:

  Bill> Really!
  Bill> 
  Bill> Let me see if I have this straight...
  Bill> 
  Bill> ntpdate ntp.apple.com  FAILS... ?
  Bill> 
  Bill> ntpdate 17.254.0.26FAILS... ?
  Bill> 
  Bill> ntpdate -d -v -B ntp.apple.com  WORKS... ?
  Bill> 
  Bill> Do I have that correct?


  Jerome> Yes !
  Jerome>
  Jerome> You can try with -q option as well.
  Jerome>
  Jerome> I am suspecting a privilege error somewhere

Another stupid question: You *ARE* doing this as root, right?  It
has to be run as root.


Yes



The manpage for ntpdate says that "-d" won't actually set the
clock.  Does "ntpdate -v -B ntp.apple.com" work (that is, without
the "-d")?


without the "-d" it does not work.

That the point:
I CANNOT set the clock !

"-d" and "-q" seem to neutralize the setting operation:
in a few words, ntpdate only fails to set the clocks.



If not, then you are probably correct that it's a privilege
problem somewhere  Of course, at boot time it *WOULD* be run
as root.  Unless you are using a name at boot time and that name
is not being resolved into an IP.  Did you try rebooting, making
sure that ntpdate would use an IP at boot time?


There is the same error message in the syslog file.




So many questions.  So little time.  (No pun intended! :-)

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linux and laptops

[Deedra Waters]

I'm supposed to start school in august, and I'm getting a gateway solo
1450 for a laptop for classes. I'm curious as to wether any of you know
how well this type of laptop will work with linux. I've heard both that
the gateway laptops work with linux and that they don't.

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Re: fbset for all ttys? SOLVED

[andrej hocevar]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:35:13AM +0200, Karoly VEGH wrote:
> #!/bin/sh
> echo "" > /dev/tty2
> echo "" > /dev/tty3
> echo "" > /dev/tty4
> echo "" > /dev/tty5
> echo "" > /dev/tty6
> fbset -a 640x480-100
> 
> echo's u need, cause fbset works only on consoles on which there is
> already something...
> 
> lanc

Hey, thanks. What a great script it is! :)

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Re: How many files can be put in one directory?

[Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 12:56, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Thu, Jun 20, 2002, Mark Janssen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 10:32, Q. Gong wrote:
> > > A general question: what's the maximum number of files located in one
> > > directory?
> > 
> > As many as you want... but accessing them will get slower when more
> > files are placed in a directory.
> 
> The hard limits are going to be inodes (fixed number per filesystem) and

iirc reiser does 'inodes' differently, eliminating the hard limit. Not
sure, though.

> probably some struct limits in the filesystem, latter of which are
> likely to be quite large.
> 
> I've got a largeish directory here:
> 
> $ time \ls -h | wc -l
> 124657
> 
> real  0m8.239s
> user  0m3.250s
> sys   0m0.250s

Most of the time is spent sorting...

On a dir with 70k entries, ls | wc takes 1.5 seconds, ls -f | wc takes
0.5 seconds.

> 
> ...running reiserfs. 

Any data about the other fs's dir structure? XFS, JFS?

> Actually, reading the directory isn't the hard
> part, it's adding entries.  I'd strongly recommend you keep ext2fs to a

On ext2, I'd think adding is quick - just append the new entry. Or does
add scan the dir, too? Opening a file will slow down as the dir has to
be scanned. Corrections welcome, it's a long time since I've read about
those thing.

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console=/dev/ttyN

[andrej hocevar]

This was posted a little while ago here by Vineet but I don't have the
mail anymore. The idea was to add the line append="console=/dev/ttyN" to
lilo.conf. I've tried to add it to grub (the right way, I suppose, without
quotes and the "append") but the results were a little different: at boot
up there were less messages, but then came this one: "/dev/console:Program
(and child) terminated." The chosen console got back to normal state as
I switched to it.

What's wrong?

andrej

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Re: digital camera recommendation?

[christophe barbé]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 11:10:49PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> I have a Canon G2, which is a 4 megapixel camera that typically sells
> for US$800 or so. It can use Canon external flash units, uses CF cards,
> and has a USB interface. Allegedly, gphoto2 works with it, but I wasn't
> able to get it to work; gphoto2 insisted the camera wasn't there,
> although the kernel's USB device list said it was. That turned out all

gphoto2 supports the Canon G2 and most current cameras.

Christophe

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Re: linux and laptops

[Charles Baker]

--- Deedra Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm supposed to start school in august, and I'm
> getting a gateway solo
> 1450 for a laptop for classes. I'm curious as to
> wether any of you know
> how well this type of laptop will work with linux.
> I've heard both that
> the gateway laptops work with linux and that they
> don't.
> 
> I'm curious as to wether any of you can give me a
> better idea.
> 
<>

Look here for linux on laptops info:

http://www.linux-laptop.net/

For your particular model I don't see an entry yet,
but there are entries for other Solos. Also, there is
a debian-laptops mailing list, you might want to
search those archives.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/




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updated apache-perl

[René Seindal]

Hi,

Has anybody managed to build a version of apache-perl based on apache
1.3.26?

I am trying, but until now with very limited success.


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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Bill Benedetto]

  Bill> Another stupid question: You *ARE* doing this as root, right?  It
  Bill> has to be run as root.

  Jerome> Yes

  Bill> The manpage for ntpdate says that "-d" won't actually set the
  Bill> clock.  Does "ntpdate -v -B ntp.apple.com" work (that is, without
  Bill> the "-d")?

  Jerome> without the "-d" it does not work.
  Jerome>
  Jerome> That the point:
  Jerome> I CANNOT set the clock !
  Jerome>
  Jerome> "-d" and "-q" seem to neutralize the setting operation:
  Jerome> in a few words, ntpdate only fails to set the clocks.

  Bill> If not, then you are probably correct that it's a privilege
  Bill> problem somewhere  Of course, at boot time it *WOULD* be run
  Bill> as root.  Unless you are using a name at boot time and that name
  Bill> is not being resolved into an IP.  Did you try rebooting, making
  Bill> sure that ntpdate would use an IP at boot time?

  Jerome> There is the same error message in the syslog file.

That is so cool! :-)

But the error says:

  no server suitable for synchronization found

which would not lead you to believe that you aren't allowed to
update the clock.  That message would lead you to believe that
you couldn't find or contact the host you want to ntpdate
against.

I have to admit that this is beyond me.  If you are really
  a) getting the same error message every time ("no server
 suitable for synchronization found") and
  b) you are running as root and
  c) you are using the IP address (rather than a hostname) and 
  d) ntpdate "works" if you don't actually set the clock
 (that is, ntpdate "works" in debug mode) --
-- well, it sounds impossible.
Clearly it isn't since you have the problem.

I've looked through the manpages for ntpdate and ntpd to see if
they might yield a clue but didn't see anything.

Sorry Jerome, but I am out of ideas at the moment.

Anyone else have any ideas/suggestions?

- Bill
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Re: How many files can be put in one directory?

[Michael P. Soulier]

On 20/06/02 Taegil Noh did speaketh:

> In shorts, Shells don't like long long list of
> files.

Agreed. At work we have directories with thousands of files due to the
short-sightedness of some tool developers who thought it was ok to dump all
sourcecode into the same directory at build time. We've developed a few Perl
scripts for managing those files since the shell choked on them. Luckily
opendir() and readdir() have no such limitations. 
For performance reasons though, it's still best to read the file names one
at a time. 

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Re: Unresolved kernel symbols when installing a custom module

[Goedson Teixeira Paixao]

Em Qua, 2002-06-19 às 12:13, Torsten Wolny escreveu:
> Hi,
> 
> Am Mit, 2002-06-19 um 11.57 schrieb Goedson Teixeira Paixão:
> > 
> > I'm trying to install the ILK module from the GILK project
> > (http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~djp1/gilk.html) but when I insmod ilk.o I get
> > this erro message:
> > 
> > ilk.o: unresolved symbol __generic_copy_from_user
> 

depmod says:

depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in ilk.o


But I found out  something interesting. When I do nm -B ilk.o, I get
the following as the reference for kmalloc:
U kmalloc
and when I do nm -B some_module_in_lib_modules (eg., ide-floppy.o) I
get this:
U kmalloc_R93d4cfe6

So, my problem now is how do I get the reference to kmalloc in my
module to be like the reference found in the kernel modules?

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Re: What is happening to testing/unstable?

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:50:58AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 20 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Run 'dselect update'.
> 
> Many thanks; that seems to have fixed it!
> 
> Isn't it supposed to be run automatically by apt-get?

No; 'dselect update' is a superset of 'apt-get update' (if dselect is
configured to use the apt method, which is the default these days), not
the other way round.

Arguably it shouldn't be that way, but there are a number of complicated
historical reasons.

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Re: changes in config of exim/mail stuff

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:44:20AM +0100, Alex Hunsley wrote:
> Anyway, I've had a look for files containing 'foosoft', as it were,
> and most are as I'd expect, e.g. resolv.conf, hosts... however,
> exim.conf and /etc/mailname also contain 'foosoft'. What steps should
> I take to get exim to re-read the config if I change these files? 

For /etc/mailname, nothing - it's generally read by clients rather than
the server. For exim.conf, if you're running exim out of inetd then
nothing; if you're running exim standalone then run '/etc/init.d/exim
reload'.

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imp/horde config problem

[ajacoutot]

Hi !

I'm trying to set up imp/horde on Woody and I have a problem.
Each time I want to access http://myserver/horde/, mozilla asks me if I
want to dowload "uzplluaq." or so...I think it might be an apache+php 
configuration problem but I don't see
how to resolve it. All the files in horde are .php3 and php4 is installed
on the server, so it might be the problem.My config:
- apache+php4+php4-mysql+mysql+horde+imp

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Apache Exploit Released - where is an update for Woody?

[Ian D. Stewart]

On 2002.06.19 23:29 John wrote:
There's now an exploit in the wild for Apache (the chunked whatever 
bug). The DSA mentions an update which is version 1.3.9-14.1


We need a version > 1.2.12, and are running 1.3.23 from woody. Is 
there any idea where a patched 1.3.23 for woody might be? Or should I 
install from source from apache.org?


A fellow posted a URL to a packaged .deb several days ago.  Don't 
recall who, or exactly when it was posted, but you should be able to 
search through the archives.  The patched .deb was based on Apache 
1.3.24.



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/dev/dsp: No such device

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hello,

I am having problems with sound in woody (see "ensoniq 5880 kernel
support" trhead). In order to test the sound I typed "esd" at the
command promp as root, to start the  Enlightened Sound Daemon, wich
produces a small sound in scale. I got the message:

nostromo:/dev# esd
/dev/dsp: No such device

but dev/dsp *does* exist in my system (together with dsp1, dsp2 dsp3)!
What is going wrong?

Thanks in advance for the help,

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Re: Gnupg & Evolution

[Helgi Örn]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 07:50, James Cameron wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 18:59, Helgi Örn wrote:
> > I have this annoying problem with Evolution and gnupg; when I click a
> > message lock icon to check the signature Evolution often hangs before
> > the lock opens. I then have to brutally kill it and start anew.
> 
> Do you have network connection at the same time?
> If not, I would expect some trouble.
>
Yes...:-)

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Re: What is happening to testing/unstable?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 20 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:50:58AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > On 20 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > Run 'dselect update'.
> > 
> > Many thanks; that seems to have fixed it!
> > 
> > Isn't it supposed to be run automatically by apt-get?
> 
> No; 'dselect update' is a superset of 'apt-get update' (if dselect is
> configured to use the apt method, which is the default these days), not
> the other way round.
> 
> Arguably it shouldn't be that way, but there are a number of complicated
> historical reasons.
> 
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I'm not clear what you mean by a superset. In the past, running "apt-get
update" was enough to produce a list of things to be upgraded. Has
something changed? If we need to run "dselect update" as well, shouldn't
that be documented somewhere? (Perhaps it is but I haven't seen it.) I'm
now somewhat confused. 

AC

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loading linux.bin.............ready (and hangs there during woody install)

[Shri Shrikumar]

Hi All,

Hope someone can help me with this.

I've tried the standard boot images using loadlin as well as floppy
images. With loadlin, it says loading and then hangs after clearing the
screen and with the floppy images it gets as far as saying ready(as in
the subject line) goes to the next line and hangs.

I dont have a bootable cd or would have tried that too.

Any ideas why this would be happening. I have install redhat on this
machine a couple of years ago although it has been running only m$ stuff
for a while.

Any ideas ?


Shri
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Re: What is happening to testing/unstable?

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:21:30PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 20 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > No; 'dselect update' is a superset of 'apt-get update' (if dselect is
> > configured to use the apt method, which is the default these days), not
> > the other way round.
> > 
> > Arguably it shouldn't be that way, but there are a number of complicated
> > historical reasons.
> 
> I'm not clear what you mean by a superset. In the past, running "apt-get
> update" was enough to produce a list of things to be upgraded. Has
> something changed?

'apt-get update' has never updated dpkg's available file. Very likely
you just never noticed this before.

> If we need to run "dselect update" as well,

If you care about dpkg's available file being up-to-date, you need to
run 'dselect update', which runs 'apt-get update' for you. You don't
need to run 'apt-get update' as well.

I do find it rather strange that this fixed your original problem,
though, considering that you said you were just using apt-get. I only
suggested 'dselect update' because you pointed out that
/var/lib/dpkg/available was empty.

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IBM NetVista / CoStar Labelwriter: giving up!

[Andrew Perrin]

Well, after lots of e-mails, phone calls, and tests, I'm giving up (at
least for now) on getting this CoStar LabelWriter XL working on my IBM
NetVista running Debian Woody.  I'm sending this message mostly for the
archives, in case anyone runs across a similar scenario in the future, but
if anyone has ideas I'd love to hear them.

The situation is this. The CoStar LabelWriter XL is a low-end, serial
label printer. There is a software driver that will drive the printer
under linux (http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/software/pbm2lwxl/).

For a project getting under way this fall, it would be very helpful to be
able to spit out barcode labels on demand. By all reports, this should be
feasible.  So I set out trying to get my office machine printing to the
labelwriter XL.

The symptom: nothing happens. Sending any data to the LWXL via either
serial port on the IBM machine simply dies quietly.  BUT... using the
exact same stty settings and sending the same file from a different
computer (also running debian) over the same cable to the same printer
works fine.  It's therefore not the software, the file, the cable, or the
printer.

Running a null modem between /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/ttyS1 on the IBM machine
yields the expected results (data passed cleanly between the ports).

Using ssnooper (thanks to Ed Hill)
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/ssnooper/), I hooked the IBM in between
the working computer and the printer, so I could see the data being passed
from the working computer to the printer. Data were in fact passed, but
nothing printed on the printer.

I booted to DOS, took the test file that works from the working computer,
and did copy small.out com1:.  Nothing. Okay, so it's not some subtle
issue between linux and these serial ports.

All this suggested to me that there was something subtly incompatible
between the IBM serial ports themselves and the printer.  I called IBM
tech support, but they have no record of any problem with this label
printer. They suggested I update the flash BIOS and run their PC Doctor
diagnostic software. I did both; the serial ports passed the diagnostics,
but there's still no action after the BIOS update.

For now, I'm just going to give up. If and when I get less discouraged, I
plan to:
- buy a cheap PCI serial board and see if it works; or
- buy a USB label printer instead; or
- hook up the working computer to the label printer, run lpd on it, and
send label print jobs over the net to it.

Frustratedly,
Andy Perrin

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Re: Woody CD for installation on IBM T20

[Jeremy Turner]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 21:09, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:
> I would like to install Woody on a T20 portable with a 3Com 589 PCMCIA
> network card.
Does your T20 have an internal nic?  I had a Thinkpad T20 (2647-41U)
that had the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100 (eepro100).  Maybe I was just
extremely lucky to get the internal one.

> where can I find an updated set of "net install" CDROMS for Woody (that
> --hopefully -- would contain the drivers for these network cards)
I ran across a cool mini-CD install a few weeks ago from someone on
debian's site.  Now (of course) I can't find it.  It's a 180 MB CD ISO
that is perfectly burnable onto a 3" Mini-CD.

> where can I find a complete CDROM image set?
http://www.debian.org/CD/
You can find complete ISOs for Potato, beta ISOs for Woody, or try out
jigdo, which downloads packages and makes them ISOs for you.

HTH
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Re: /dev/dsp: No such device

[Jerome BENOIT]

Have you check your privilege ?

Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Hello,

I am having problems with sound in woody (see "ensoniq 5880 kernel
support" trhead). In order to test the sound I typed "esd" at the
command promp as root, to start the  Enlightened Sound Daemon, wich
produces a small sound in scale. I got the message:

nostromo:/dev# esd
/dev/dsp: No such device

but dev/dsp *does* exist in my system (together with dsp1, dsp2 dsp3)!
What is going wrong?

Thanks in advance for the help,

Marcelo



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RE:linux and laptops

[Andrew Agno]

Deedra Waters writes:
 > I'm supposed to start school in august, and I'm getting a gateway solo
 > 1450 for a laptop for classes. I'm curious as to wether any of you know
 > how well this type of laptop will work with linux. I've heard both that
 > the gateway laptops work with linux and that they don't.
 > 
 > I'm curious as to wether any of you can give me a better idea.

As another poster suggested, look at linux-laptops.net.  I've
personally had good experiences installing Debian on Sony Vaios (C1XS
as well as later picturebooks), Dell Inspirons (8000 and 8200 except
for power management), and the Gateway Solo 3450 (fonts are really
ugly, although I never looked into this problem).  I suspect that most 
modern laptops will work fine, more or less.  I've had the easiest
install on the Dells, and I just prefer them overall--the power is
kind of annoying, but I just have two batteries, anyhow.

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Linux and Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) card

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hello,

I went to the Linux Sound-HowTo, looking for information about my
Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) sound card. The only models of
Ensoniq PCI card listed as supported by Linux are Ensoniq AudioPCI
(ES1370) and Ensoniq AudioPCI 97 (ES1371). No Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI. So,
I am afraid that my sound card is not supported, am I right? If not I
would like to know if anyone in this list has an Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI
working...

Thanks for the help,

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cdparanoia paranoia

[Helgi Örn]

Hello all!

Why is jack (the ripper) giving me this:
---
Error: could not read CD's TOC.
 : maybe cdparanoia is not installed?
---
even though cdparanoia is installed?

Cheers,
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Re: man or info?

[W. Paul Mills]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:

> To summarize somewhat, perhaps unfairly, the GNU Project seems to
> believe that providing a complete detailed manual is always preferable
> to providing a reference card; the Debian Project observes that not all
> upstream authors have the time or inclination for a complete manual and,
> all other things being equal, prefers to have some reasonable
> documentation for most things than excellent documentation for a few and
> poor documentation for most.
>
> Man pages are things that both authors and readers can pick up quickly.
> I'm in the habit of using info for a very few GNU packages (make,
> autoconf, and the libc being prime examples), but given the choice I
> still prefer a quick 'man foo'.

Seems like I never can find what I want in info. Man pages are
much easier. Then again a friendlier info browser might help.

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Re: 2X CD's as emulated scsi

[Helgi Örn]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 22:25, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include 
> Helgi Örn wrote on Wed Jun 19, 2002 um 08:10:17PM:
> 
> > I can't install the VMware tools because VMware doesn't accept emulated
> > scsi drivers (if I've understood this right).
> 
> I doubt, ide-scsi is not your problem here.
> 
You are probably right, VMware simulates the cd-rom as it should, I can
start the vmwaretools setup and then it just drops dead without any
explanation. I've never seen this happen before???

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Re: Need advice on best SMP mainboard for Debian

[Nick Traxler]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 07:19:59PM -0800, Christopher Swingley wrote:
> * Derek Gladding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-Jun-19 15:46
> * AKDT]:
> > > I am seriously considering the Tyan S2460 Dual AMD board. Any
> > > comments are appreciated. If you feel this is off topic please reply
> > > anyway off the list. Thanks!
> >
> > I'm running mixed Woody/Sid, home-cooked 2.4.18 kernel on a Tyan dual
> > Athlon MP setup (S2460 mobo or very similar), Not had a single problem
> > so far, box runs very sweet, very fast, and very stable. For the work
> > I'm doing, this particular mobo/CPU setup is at the sweet spot for
> > performance/dollar. (YMMV of course, but I'd recommend it as a good
> > setup for a high-end dev/simulation/crunching box).
> 
> Make sure you've got very clean power, excellent cooling, and a good
> high-wattage power supply.  I've had trouble with most of the dual
> Tyan boards shutting themselves down or worse, frying themselves.
> Putting the machines in a climate controlled room (65 degrees) on
> conditioned power has been the only solution.
> 
> I've found the dual Pentium boards to be more stable and less finicky,
> and I'll probably buy those from now on after the trouble I've had
> with Tyan dual Athlon chipsets.
> 

I've been using an Abit VP6 for about a year and a half now with no
problems. It's limited to Coppermine chips, so there are definitely
better bargains out there, but it seems to be stable as a rock. I've
read several opinions that the RAID chip should only be used as a second
IDE controller and not as a RAID controller. I plan to set up a software
RAID 5 sometime in the next year and see how fast it is.

Actually, I've never had a problem with an Abit board.
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Re: man or info?

[Robert Waldner]

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:02:43 CDT, W. Paul Mills writes:
>Seems like I never can find what I want in info. Man pages are
>much easier. Then again a friendlier info browser might help.

AOL!

But http://freshmeat.net/projects/info2man/ helps.
 (no .deb available though, AFAICT)>

cheers,
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Re: What is happening to testing/unstable?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 20 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:21:30PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > On 20 Jun 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > No; 'dselect update' is a superset of 'apt-get update' (if dselect is
> > > configured to use the apt method, which is the default these days), not
> > > the other way round.
> > > 
> > > Arguably it shouldn't be that way, but there are a number of complicated
> > > historical reasons.
> > 
> > I'm not clear what you mean by a superset. In the past, running "apt-get
> > update" was enough to produce a list of things to be upgraded. Has
> > something changed?
> 
> 'apt-get update' has never updated dpkg's available file. Very likely
> you just never noticed this before.
> 
> > If we need to run "dselect update" as well,
> 
> If you care about dpkg's available file being up-to-date, you need to
> run 'dselect update', which runs 'apt-get update' for you. You don't
> need to run 'apt-get update' as well.
> 
> I do find it rather strange that this fixed your original problem,
> though, considering that you said you were just using apt-get. I only
> suggested 'dselect update' because you pointed out that
> /var/lib/dpkg/available was empty.
> 
> -- 
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I find it odd too; I had a script which ran "apt-get update" followed by
"apt-get dist-upgrade" and for many months that worked correctly.
However, I shall now change to "dselect update". 

Anthony

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Re: /dev/dsp: No such device

[Nicos Gollan]

On Thursday 20 June 2002 15:11, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am having problems with sound in woody (see "ensoniq 5880 kernel
> support" trhead). In order to test the sound I typed "esd" at the
> command promp as root, to start the  Enlightened Sound Daemon, wich
> produces a small sound in scale. I got the message:
>
> nostromo:/dev# esd
> /dev/dsp: No such device
>
> but dev/dsp *does* exist in my system (together with dsp1, dsp2
> dsp3)! What is going wrong?

"No such device" normally means that the driver responsible for handling 
the device isn't loaded properly. Are you able to play sound from other 
applications?

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Re: man or info?

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 10:02:43AM -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:
> > Man pages are things that both authors and readers can pick up quickly.
> > I'm in the habit of using info for a very few GNU packages (make,
> > autoconf, and the libc being prime examples), but given the choice I
> > still prefer a quick 'man foo'.
> 
> Seems like I never can find what I want in info.

The key for me is to use Ctrl-S for a full-text search.

> Man pages are much easier. Then again a friendlier info browser might
> help.

Yeah. I get the impression it's easier for people who use emacs, but I
have religious objections to that. :)

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touchpad on laptop

[Cameron Matheson]

Hey,

I've gotten debian installed on my Canon Innovabook 457CDS, but I don't
know how to get the touchpad working... is there some sort of generic
touchpad device?  I tried using /dev/psaux just for fun but that didn't
work, couldn't find any information about this in the laptop howto.

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson





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Re: /dev/dsp: No such device

[Ernst-Magne Vindal]

On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 16:32, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

I had the same prop. Can you run it as root? if so
just do chmod a+x /dev/dsp


> Have you check your privilege ?
> 
> Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am having problems with sound in woody (see "ensoniq 5880 kernel
> > support" trhead). In order to test the sound I typed "esd" at the
> > command promp as root, to start the  Enlightened Sound Daemon, wich
> > produces a small sound in scale. I got the message:
> > 
> > nostromo:/dev# esd
> > /dev/dsp: No such device
> > 
> > but dev/dsp *does* exist in my system (together with dsp1, dsp2 dsp3)!
> > What is going wrong?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for the help,
> > 
> > Marcelo
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: Linux and Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) card

[Jan Groenewald]

Marcelo,

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:45:20AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> I went to the Linux Sound-HowTo, looking for information about my
> Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) sound card. The only models of
> Ensoniq PCI card listed as supported by Linux are Ensoniq AudioPCI
> (ES1370) and Ensoniq AudioPCI 97 (ES1371). No Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI. So,
> I am afraid that my sound card is not supported, am I right? If not I
> would like to know if anyone in this list has an Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI
> working...
Nope, but google is your friend. first off I found a suse link.
http://support.suse.de/sdb/en/html/swgkern_ensoniq5880.html
Something about having to patch alsa.
Stick your subject in google, there were a lotta hits.

regards,
jan

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