Re: sawfish doesn't work

[Michael Smith]

I think the default sweetpill theme for sawfish is missing from the sources.  
This
means that you have no raise-lower buttons or even frames on the windows.  Try 
using
sawfish and then running the configuration tool.  Change the appearance to 
microgui
or anything else, and then close out all your current windows.  The new ones 
should
be OK.  I've been installing about 5 workstations this week, and that's what I 
had to
do with all of them.

HTH
--Mike

Andrew D Dixon wrote:

> I upgraded again and sawfish still doesn't work.
> Any suggestions?
>
> thanks,
> Andy
>
> Mark Gordon wrote:
>
> > > Hi Everybody,
> > > I'm running Debian Potato and I just decided to try out Helix-Gnome.
> > > Everything was working great untill today when sawfish died on me.  I
> > > did two things today that may have cause the problem.  I updated and
> > > upgraded my system:
> > >
> > > >apt-get update
> > > >apt-get upgrade
> >
> > Yup, that would do it.  ;-) Our Debian Potato sawfish was broken for a
> > while late last week.  It should be fixed now (apt-get update & apt-get
> > upgrade again, of course).
> >
> > -Mark Gordon
>
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Re: Apt and NFS?

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 08:42:34PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> apt-get install nfs-kernel-server

*slaps forehead* Why didn't I think to look for that?

> and install a kernel with knfs compiled in.  thats all it takes.  and
> locking does work with it.  

Actually, there is one other step...  Unmount and remount all NFSed
directories on the client.  Apparently, this change isn't entirely
transparent.  (ISTR being able to stop and restart the user-space nfsd on the
server without it disturbing clients.  OTOH, that didn't involve rebooting
the server, which is probably a relevant point as well...)

Thanks!

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Re: Can gpm and X live in peace?

[Michael Smith]

Sure, just set up x to use /dev/gpmdata as the mouse device, and X will use gpm 
to
run the mouse.  There's no conflict that way.  It's also a little bit easier
sometimes to configure the mouse in X if you've already got a working gpm.

Steve Juranich wrote:

> I was able to trace down a problem with my mouse (it was dead) back to gpm.
> It seems that gpm was being a bully and wouldn't let X play with the mouse.
> To solve the problem, I just killed gpm.
>
> I don't use gpm all that much, so I doubt that I'll even miss it.  However,
> it seems that both of them should be able to use the mouse at the same time.
>
> Could somebody plaase tell me how I can run gpm and X run at the same time?
>
> TIA
>
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Re: Can gpm and X live in peace?

[Steve Juranich]

On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Bruce Sass wrote:

> This usually works...
> Tell gpm to repeat raw data, and X to use /dev/gpmdata.
> gpm.conf: repeat_type=raw
> XF86Config: Device "/dev/gpmdata"
> use whatever protocol ("type" in gpm.conf, Protocol in XF86Config) is
> suitable for your mouse.

Thanks! It's working /perfectly/ now!

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Re: Sound testing

[Krzys Majewski]

Timothy Bedding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am trying to get my Sound Blaster card working.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a simple test program that I can
> run to prove that it is working? 

I use "saytime". For example:

while true
do
saytime
sleep 1
done

I've been  playing with sound lately  (sound blaster awe  64 isa pnp),
here's my summary:
- there are afaik 3 different drivers you can use:
1. The OSS/Free drivers that come with the linux kernel
2. The shareware OSS drivers from the OSS website. They cost
money. I could not get their demo to install under Debian. 
3. ALSA. This is  what I'm using now. It was a bitch
to set up but it seems to work well. You can get the
latest source from something like www.alsa-project.org.
There's about 3 different howto's on the website, 
reading all of them helped me with configuring the drivers.
The benefit of ALSA is for example full-duplex support for my
sound card, which I need since I like to do some live sound 
recording/mixing.
- the  sb awe 64  isa pnp may not very good if  you plan to  do sound
recording with ecasound.  If it works for you,  great; it doesn't work
that well for me (slow, noisy). I think I'll get an sb 128pci card next. 

-chris

Getting X to work in Dell OptiPlex

[Kelvin Chow]

Dear all,

For the past few days, I've been trying to get Debian (Potato) installed in 
my work machine.  After sorting out the trouble with partitioning and in 
the end installed the system, I am now faced with a new problem -- setting 
up X.


The Dell OptiPlex GX110 is using i810e chipset.  I think it's best to 
describe what I went through.


1.  Initially I accessed the Intel site to see if they have the module for 
downloading.  Unfortunately, they only have the rpm package, and running 
alien and installing from them didn't seem to work.


2.  My search then took me to X strike force.  However, the site has been 
down for the past 24hrs.  I was able to use Google's cached services to 
view the site, and I noticed that they have tgz file on the 
module.  Unfortunately, the site was down and there's no access to the file.


3.  I was then pointed to utah-glx web site.  This time I was able to get a 
patch for kernel 2.2.16.  I'm using kernel 2.2.17 prerelease version, but I 
figure it doesn't matter.  I managed in the end to compile the code and 
activated the agpgart module using modconf.  I kept questioning myself 
whether I should be patching the kernel since the agpgart is for kernel 2.216.


4.  I then went through XF86Setup and xf86config trying to see if there's 
an option for i810.  However, there's no such hardware list in the 
configuration files.


5.  I then type "locate i810" and I found that XFCom_i810 is indeed 
installed in my system.  I figure that it's just a matter of telling X 
configuration tools that I have this sort of driver.


6.  I did some modification on /etc/X11/XF86Config hoping that it would get 
things working, but I cannot get X to run.


Now, has anyone have similar experience?  How did you configure X?

Grateful for any pointers.

Regards.

Kelvin

Re: Can gpm and X live in peace?

[Taupter]

Steve Juranich wrote:
> Could somebody plaase tell me how I can run gpm and X run at the same time?

There is a documented feature of gpm that enables some sort of a "pipe"
between it and X. According to man 8 gpm the option is -R. It will
create a fifo named /dev/gpmdata, and X can use it as a mouse port, so
check the man page.
I used this option some time ago, but since I have changed my US$2.00
mouse for a "branded" trackball, I don't need it anymore.
The -R option can cause some sluggishness with the X cursor, so be
careful.


Claudio

Re: Portuguese accentuation

[Krzys Majewski]

Well, I do Polish, not Portuguese, but here's what I found. 
- You need to use the right font, under the console (man setfont) and
under X if you're using X (man xrdb). 
- You need to use the right keymap to type the funny letters
(man loadkeys under console, man xmodmap under X)
- Every program you use ("less" and "more" are separate programs) has
to be  taught how to speak  your language. Usually  this means setting
some flag that makes it "8-bit clean", i.e. tells it not to ignore the
8th bit in each funny letter)
- For Portuguese you can probably  use the default X  fonts, that is,
ones ending  in "8859-1". You  just have to  set up a keymap  that can
type the funny letters. 

-chris

"princesa, eu quero ser seu príncipe"

Leonardo Dias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm still having problems with portuguese accentuation. It seems that
> both packages (console-tools and kbd) don't work with the right fonts.
> The map seems okay (deadkeys work fine). Though there are no fonts which
> show the right accentuation for the characters.
> 
> Are there any brazilian people having the same problem? Tell me.
> 
> (BTW, the Portuguese HOWTO, which worked for me in the past, doesn't
> have a webpage now. The old website does not existe. Does anybody know
> where did it go?)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Analista Programador / Analyst Programmer
> Catho Online
> http://www.catho.com.br
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debian: C library man pages

[Brendan J Simon]

I can't find the C library manpages.  I'm running Potato on a PowerMac
and Intel system.
I have install manpages, libc6 and glibc-doc.  I can't find any other
appropriate package by using "apt-cache pkgnames" or "apt-cache search".

What package do I need to install to get the C library manpages.

Thanks,
Brendan Simon.

Re: Apt and NFS?

[Eric Gillespie, Jr.]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 12:02:34PM -0400,
Noah L. Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The best way to do it is to use the kernel space NFS server, as it does
> support file locking and will allow programs like dpkg to work as
> intended.

I *am* using the kernel NFS server, and it doesn't work.

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Re: Getting X to work in Dell OptiPlex

[Seth Cohn]

> The Dell OptiPlex GX110 is using i810e chipset.
>  I think it's best to 
> describe what I went through.

Been there, done that.  Complained to Branden, because at the time, he
didn't even HAVE the link he'd promised in the docs, on the website.
He fixed that though. :)  He doesn't include the module built because of
the need to build against the right kernel...

> 1.  Initially I accessed the Intel site to see if they have the module for 
> downloading.  Unfortunately, they only have the rpm package, and running 
> alien and installing from them didn't seem to work.

Nope, the .tgz is worth getting though.  unpacking that, it works... just
'make' in the directory then 'make install'

> 4.  I then went through XF86Setup and xf86config trying to see if there's 
> an option for i810.  However, there's no such hardware list in the 
> configuration files.

Nope, neither supports i810. :(  You need to configure a simple SVGA card
and then hand hack the config to fit... see below for the lines

> 5.  I then type "locate i810" and I found that XFCom_i810 is indeed 
> installed in my system.  I figure that it's just a matter of telling X 
> configuration tools that I have this sort of driver.

You don't need the XFCom_i810 the current (well... 3.3.6) SVGA driver
works fine... BUT you need to add the config lines telling it is an 810

> 6.  I did some modification on /etc/X11/XF86Config hoping that it would get 
> things working, but I cannot get X to run.

> Now, has anyone have similar experience?  How did you configure X?

1) make sure your MEM size in lilo is set 2-4 megs low - i810's use
onboard ram, so you need to reserve that  read the docs for lilo.  If
you get weird lockups, you might be having memory conflicts.

2) load agppart, unless you are set to autoload  I find that with most
systems, just having the agpgart.o module in the misc section of your
modules is fine. Make sure you make the device node per the instructions
in the INSTALL file...

3)
the important lines from XF86Config:

# **
# Graphics device section
# **

Section "Device"
Identifier  "i810"
EndSection

# **
# Screen sections
# **
Section "Screen"
Driver "svga"
Device  "i810"
Monitor "your monitor here"
Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes "1024x768" "640x480" "800x600" "1152x864" "1280x1024" "1600x1200"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

Re: OT: reccomended IMAP4 compadible server?

[Eric Gillespie, Jr.]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 01:15:01PM -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> currently the job i work at uses the UW imap server(since its the default
> with redhat) i was curious if anyone had any ideas for a more robust IMAP
> server that co-operated well with qmail if posssible.

I'm a fan of Courier IMAP myself. It only supports Maildirs,
though, and for some strange reason not everyone has been
convinced of their superiority. :)

It works fine with qmail and postfix, and i suppose any other MTA
that uses Maildirs. I use it with postfix, and have never used
qmail, so i can't comment on that.

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Re: debian: C library man pages

[Harry Henry Gebel]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:31:22PM +1100, Brendan J Simon wrote:
> What package do I need to install to get the C library manpages.

Try package manpages-dev .

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Re: Apt and NFS?

[Ethan Benson]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 01:37:30AM -0500, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 12:02:34PM -0400,
> Noah L. Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The best way to do it is to use the kernel space NFS server, as it does
> > support file locking and will allow programs like dpkg to work as
> > intended.
> 
> I *am* using the kernel NFS server, and it doesn't work.


try this program i found it in the BTS regarding mutt and NFS:

#include 
#include 
#include 

int main (int argc, char *argv[])
{
  struct flock lck;
  int fd, ret;
  if (argc != 2) {
printf ("Usage: %s file to lock\n", argv[0]);
return 1;
  }
  fd = open (argv[1], O_RDONLY);
  memset (&lck, 0, sizeof (struct flock));
  lck.l_type = F_RDLCK;
  lck.l_whence = SEEK_SET;
  ret = fcntl (fd, F_SETLK, &lck);
  printf ("fcntl()=%i, errno=%i\n", ret, errno);
  return 0;
}

it is supposed to test whether a lock can be established or not, iirc
it returns errno=1 or such on failure (i tried it on userspace-nfs and
got different results then with kernel-nfs)

i don't know much else about it though.

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Re: Subscribing troubles

[Colin Watson]

Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have had a hell of a time subscribing to debian-user from home.  I suspect
>there is some issue in the email database, as I have subscribed successfully to
>several other debian mailing lists.

I usually find that, if I have problems with either the mail interface
([EMAIL PROTECTED], subject line "subscribe") or the
web interface (http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe), the other
one tends to work.

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Re: mouse moving

[Colin Watson]

George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It depends on your window manager. What you appear to want is "click to
>focus" rather than "focus follows mouse". Another option is "sloppy
>focus" where focus does not leave a window unless the cursor rests on a
>new window for some period of time.

I thought sloppy focus usually meant focus-follows-mouse except that
moving your mouse into the root window (i.e. a blank area of the screen)
didn't take the focus away from other windows ...

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Re: mouse moving

[George Bonser]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Colin Watson wrote:

> George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >It depends on your window manager. What you appear to want is "click to
> >focus" rather than "focus follows mouse". Another option is "sloppy
> >focus" where focus does not leave a window unless the cursor rests on a
> >new window for some period of time.
> 
> I thought sloppy focus usually meant focus-follows-mouse except that
> moving your mouse into the root window (i.e. a blank area of the screen)
> didn't take the focus away from other windows ...

I thought that is what I said ... kinda. If you do not rest your cursor on
a different window (leave it on the root window) you do not loose focus
from your previous window. If you enter a new window, it will gain focus
... after a configurable time delay depending on window manager.

Re: Getting X to work in Dell OptiPlex

[Kelvin Chow]

Still not working...  this is what I did.

1.  I didn't download the tgz files as you have suggested from 
intel.com.  Instead I continued using the patch downloaded from utah-glx site.


2.  I made the necessary edit in the XF86Config file.  Included all the 
lines you have below.


3.  I typed in X -probeonly, and I got the following error:

(--) SVGA: PCI: Intel Unknown chipset (0x7125) rev 3, Memory @ 0xf400, 
0xff00

(--) SVGA: error doing ioctl(GARTIOCINFO): Invalid argument

4.  I thought that it could be a memory problem so I reduced the mem from 
62M to 60M via append="mem=60M" in the lilo.conf file.  The result however 
is the same.


5.  I then decided to download the tar.gz file you have suggested, but I 
cannot find .tar.gz file from support.intel.com.  I dug through the 
previous release and I found an early release of agpgart.o module in tar.gz 
format.  I downloaded it, make and then make install, and I found out that 
it installed into 2.2.15 instead of 2.2.17 (modules directory).


I don't know how I should approach the problem from here.  Any further 
suggestion?


Regards.

Kelvin

At 11:38 PM 2000/9/25 -0700, you wrote:

> The Dell OptiPlex GX110 is using i810e chipset.
>  I think it's best to
> describe what I went through.

Been there, done that.  Complained to Branden, because at the time, he
didn't even HAVE the link he'd promised in the docs, on the website.
He fixed that though. :)  He doesn't include the module built because of
the need to build against the right kernel...

> 1.  Initially I accessed the Intel site to see if they have the module for
> downloading.  Unfortunately, they only have the rpm package, and running
> alien and installing from them didn't seem to work.

Nope, the .tgz is worth getting though.  unpacking that, it works... just
'make' in the directory then 'make install'

> 4.  I then went through XF86Setup and xf86config trying to see if there's
> an option for i810.  However, there's no such hardware list in the
> configuration files.

Nope, neither supports i810. :(  You need to configure a simple SVGA card
and then hand hack the config to fit... see below for the lines

> 5.  I then type "locate i810" and I found that XFCom_i810 is indeed
> installed in my system.  I figure that it's just a matter of telling X
> configuration tools that I have this sort of driver.

You don't need the XFCom_i810 the current (well... 3.3.6) SVGA driver
works fine... BUT you need to add the config lines telling it is an 810

> 6.  I did some modification on /etc/X11/XF86Config hoping that it would 
get

> things working, but I cannot get X to run.

> Now, has anyone have similar experience?  How did you configure X?

1) make sure your MEM size in lilo is set 2-4 megs low - i810's use
onboard ram, so you need to reserve that  read the docs for lilo.  If
you get weird lockups, you might be having memory conflicts.

2) load agppart, unless you are set to autoload  I find that with most
systems, just having the agpgart.o module in the misc section of your
modules is fine. Make sure you make the device node per the instructions
in the INSTALL file...

3)
the important lines from XF86Config:

# **
# Graphics device section
# **

Section "Device"
Identifier  "i810"
EndSection

# **
# Screen sections
# **
Section "Screen"
Driver "svga"
Device  "i810"
Monitor "your monitor here"
Subsection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes "1024x768" "640x480" "800x600" "1152x864" "1280x1024" 
"1600x1200"

ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection



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Re: doesn't anybody use tunnelling / vpn?

[will trillich]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 09:33:46PM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, most will require that you build them from source with your current
> kernel source tree someplace ( or at least access to the kernel-headers
> package for the kernel you are running ). Debian has a CIPE package in
> non-us (or did) but I think it is a source package, you need to build it.
> 
> Woody has a vtun package ... vtun is cool but you are going to have to
> know what you are doing ... just like the rest of the packages.
> 
> VTUN is probably best since it will work from behind a firewall (has a TCP
> mode and a SOCKS mode) while CIPE is UDP and you are probably not going to
> get return packets back through the firewall without admin intervention.

tried cipe for five days. no grok. many tears. much hair loss.

tried vtun. same level of success: negative.

tried tunnelv. same.

before i worry about the fancy encryption and all, isn't there a
way to configure a tunl0 or ethertap or netlink device to do quick
and dirty publicly-visible tunnelling?

there's gotta be a primary missing component that i've not got set up.

according to the iproute2 "ip-tunnels.ps" dox much is possible via
simple ip and routing calls:

# ip tunnel add tunl0 mode gre remote 208.7.139.219 local 208.33.90.85
ioctl: No buffer space available
# ipmasq
# ip tunnel add DIODE mode gre remote 208.7.139.219 local 208.33.90.85
# ifconfig DIODE 192.168.0.1
# ip route add 192.168.0.0/24 via 208.7.139.219 dev DIODE onlink
Cannot send dump request: Connection refused
# ip link list
Cannot send dump request: Connection refused
# ip address show
Cannot send dump request: Connection refused
# ip route show
Cannot send dump request: Connection refused
# ip neigh show
Cannot send dump request: Connection refused

regardless of which package i try, i get some constipation like this
that's entirely obscure to me.

# cat /proc/net/dev
Inter-|   Receive|  Transmit
 face |bytespackets errs drop fifo frame compressed multicast|bytes
packets errs drop fifo colls carrier compressed
lo:25554026  210930000 0  0 0 25554026  
210930000 0   0  0
 tunl0:   0   0000 0  0 00  
 0000 0   0  0
  sit0:   0   0000 0  0 00  
 0000 0   0  0
  eth0:82258414  735457303 3  0 0 211845383  
519312000   158   1  0
  eth1:227361827  394335607 6  0 0 128792826  
421015000   572   0  0
  tap0:   0   0000 0  0 00  
 0000 0   0  0
  tap1:   0   0000 0  0 00  
 0000 0   0  0
  ppp0:  57   0100 1  0 0  460  
10000 0   0  0
   sl0:   0   0000 0  0 0  924  
11000 0   0  0
  gre0:   0   0000 0  0 00  
 0000 0   0  0
 DIODE:   0   0000 0  0 00  
 0000 0   0  0

what's missing? where do i look?

Re: zlib1g vs zlib1g-dev (potato)

[Mark Brown]

will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 08:24:09PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 03:26:40PM -0500, will trillich wrote:

> > > zlib1g-dev: Depends: zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3-5) but 1:1.1.3-9 is to  be
> > > installed

> > Well, that's fairly self-explanatory.

> not on the level i'm looking at...

>   "zlib1g-dev needs either zlib1g 1.1.3 or 1.1.4 or 1.1.5, whereas what's
>   installed is 1.1.3 thru 1.1.9 ... so maybe zlib1g is 1.1.6 thru 1.1.9 in

Those version numbers don't specify ranges - Debian packages use
revision numbers of the form ::
so 1:1.1.3-9 actually works out as epoch 1, upstream version 1.1.3,
Debian revision 9.  

The upstream version is the version number used by whoever distributes 
the original package and the Debian revision is the version of the 
packaging for this version of the upstream source.  Epochs are used to
ensure that newer versions of the package have higher version numbers
than older ones if something about the numbering wouldn't do that
otherwise (eg, upstream changes version numbering schemes).

The upshot is that the above depends line specifies a dependancy on
exactly version 1:1.1.3-5 but that's not the version that's installed
and apt can't find the correct version.

>   which case it'd be outside the range needed by the APPARENTLY OUTDATED
>   1.1.3-1.1.5 -dev module."

Yes, the -dev package in Potato is outdated WRT the package you're
trying to install.

> i'll keep trying with the hopes that you're right and that if you're
> right, that someone updates the links soon. (or should i file a bug?

You'll have to wait until Woody is released.  The version of zlib in 
Potato is 1:1.1.3-5, but you seem to have managed to install 1:1.1.3-9.
You should probably go to one of the FTP sites and manually download and
install (with dpkg -i) the potato version of the zlib1g package.

You could file a bug, but unless you can point out an actual current
error in one of the mirrors it's unlikely to be worth bothering.  If
there was a mistake it's probably fixed now.

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Re: doesn't anybody use tunnelling / vpn?

[Mark Brown]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 11:25:26PM -0500, will trillich wrote:

> am i the only person trying to get these going? it seems like such
> a no-brainer tool that i'd expect LOTS of us to be using vpn
> (or trying to get it running).

Most of the people using VPNs are probably companies, and probably most
of those that need it have paid sysadmins.  They tend not to be the sort
of people asking questions here.

> i'm going NUTS here... help! pointers would be handy, but i've
> found many documents hither and yon on the 'net and NONE have been
> turnkey... there's always some obscure obstacle or error message
> that i have no clue as to the meaning behind it.

> is there a debianized tunnel module i can get running?

We use FreeSWAN, which isn't packaged yet.

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Re: Hard disk perfomance problems

[Rino Mardo]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 01:15:24AM +0200 or thereabouts, Philipp Schulte wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 04:03:28PM +0100, Jaime Silvela wrote: 
> 
> >   I recently installed Debian 2.2 on my computer after having used Debian
> > 2.0 for a year and a half. My computer had been  complaining often about
> > corrupted disk sectors under Debian 2.0, and I figured perhaps my HD was
> > faulty or Debian 2.2 had a patch to fix the problem. After installing Debian
> > 2.2 the problem persisted, even sometimes fsck would at bootup find
> > irrecoverable HD errors and ask me to give root password for maintenence. So
> > I bought a new 3.2 GB IDE disk, and again the same. I had been using a 1.6
> > IDE disk.
> 
> Probably something with your controller or a faulty BIOS.
> You should check the HD in an other system.
> 
> Phil

yea, if you have a new hd and still get errors look further and this time check
the hd controller and cable.

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kdeinit

[Douglas Eck]

I'm running kde2 on woody. Is kdeinit supposed to run forever?
I seem to have two of them going all the time. And one of them
is very large:

32702 doug   6   0  7024 7024  6796 S   0  0.1  2.7   0:02 kdeinit
32737 doug  14   0 10136 9.9M  8864 S   0  0.1  3.9   0:01 kdeinit

Re: install from 3 CD's fails on floppy?

[Rino Mardo]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:46:53PM -0600 or thereabouts, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> 
> 
> Nope, I actually downloaded the images on a fast line, burned em
> and brought them up here.
> 
> Robert

when?  the first set of images are corrupted and debian have to remake 'em.
otherwise, if it's a recent image must be a corrupted d/l.  fast? yes it
happens too.

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Re: doesn't anybody use tunnelling / vpn?

[Damon Muller]

Hi will,

I don't know if it's sophisticated enough for what you want to do, but
setting up port forwarding using ssh is very easy. If all you want to do
is something like secure mail transfer, then it'll take you mere seconds
to set up, and require no additional software or kernel compilation.

If you want to do something more sophisticated, them I'm afraid that I
can't help you.

cheers,

damon

Quoth will trillich, 
> AAUGH! NOBODY seems to be tunneling anywhere. i must be alone...
> my inquiries about vpn and tunnelling have met with deafening silence.
> 
> am i the only person trying to get these going? it seems like such
> a no-brainer tool that i'd expect LOTS of us to be using vpn
> (or trying to get it running).
> 
> or is there a club meeting somewhere that gathers to laugh at all
> my ignorant posts on the issue? (on the other hand, maybe y'all
> are waiting for me to finally munch my bloodied head through the
> other end so you can ask me how i did it? expect a looong wait.)
> 
> i'm going NUTS here... help! pointers would be handy, but i've
> found many documents hither and yon on the 'net and NONE have been
> turnkey... there's always some obscure obstacle or error message
> that i have no clue as to the meaning behind it.
> 
> is there a debianized tunnel module i can get running?
>   not tunnelv
>   tried iptunnel
>   got pptpd
>   moving on to something that makes sense to me (and works)
> 
> --
> 
> i've tried tunnelv, ipip, ipsec, several others. shotgun/machine-gun
> approach: apt-get install, try, be baffled by errors or no results, try
> another. no hits. dead ends everywhere, without understanding
> anything of the messages behind them.
> 
> even with
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO-5.html
> i'm not having ANY success.
> 

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Re: Apt and NFS?

[Eric Gillespie, Jr.]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 10:53:18PM -0800,
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> try this program i found it in the BTS regarding mutt and NFS:

It seems to have the same problem.

# ./a.out /mnt/apt/foo
fcntl()=-1, errno=9

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Re: kdeinit

[Steve Lamb]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:46:50AM +0200, Douglas Eck wrote:
> I'm running kde2 on woody. Is kdeinit supposed to run forever?
> I seem to have two of them going all the time. And one of them
> is very large:
 
> 32702 doug   6   0  7024 7024  6796 S   0  0.1  2.7   0:02 kdeinit
> 32737 doug  14   0 10136 9.9M  8864 S   0  0.1  3.9   0:01 kdeinit

Yes.  kdeinit launches the other applications.

grey 31695  0.0  2.4  2424 1572 tty1 SSep21   0:00 -zsh
grey 25827  0.0  2.1  2236 1356 tty2 S02:00   0:00 -zsh
grey 26036  0.0  2.0  2004 1308 tty2 S02:25   0:00 mutt
grey 26052  0.0  1.4  1864  912 tty1 S02:26   0:00 sh 
/usr/bin/startkde
grey 26074  0.1 10.5 16460 6656 ?S02:27   0:00 kdeinit: 
dcopserver
grey 26076  0.1 11.3 16468 7192 ?S02:27   0:00 kdeinit: 
klauncher
grey 26078  4.6 17.5 18584 2 ?   S02:27   0:19 kdeinit: kdesktop
grey 26080  0.0 11.1 16440 7092 ?S02:27   0:00 kdeinit: kded
grey 26082  0.0 10.9 16652 6924 ?S02:27   0:00 kdeinit: kio_file
grey 26084  0.5 14.8 17012 9380 ?S02:27   0:02 kdeinit: 
kio_uiserver
grey 26085  0.0 10.7 16508 6784 ?S02:27   0:00 kdeinit: kio_file
grey 26093  0.0 11.3 16608 7168 ?S02:27   0:00 kdeinit: kxmlrpcd
grey 26095  5.1 18.0 18440 11412 ?   S02:27   0:20 kdeinit: kicker
grey 26097  3.1 14.1 17012 8956 ?S02:27   0:12 kdeinit: klipper
grey 26099  0.4 12.7 16836 8088 ?S02:27   0:01 kdeinit: khotkeys
grey 26101  0.0 10.1 16420 6432 ?S02:27   0:00 kdeinit: 
Running...
grey 26103  0.9  9.8 12884 6216 tty1 S02:27   0:03 ksmserver 
--restore
grey 26105  0.4 13.2 17052 8400 ?S02:27   0:01 kdeinit: kwrited
grey 26106  0.0  0.5   988  328 pts/0S02:27   0:00 /bin/cat
grey 26107  1.2 14.3 17456 9072 ?S02:27   0:04 kdeinit: kwin
grey 26109  1.1 15.5 18880 9832 ?S02:27   0:04 kdeinit: knotify
grey 26134 10.4 15.7 17684 10008 ?   S02:31   0:16 kdeinit: konsole
grey 26135  0.1  2.1  2248 1376 pts/6S02:31   0:00 /usr/bin/zsh
grey 26159  0.6  2.0  2028 1320 pts/6S02:33   0:00 mutt
grey 26166  2.8  2.2  2268 1424 pts/6S02:33   0:00 vim 
/tmp/mutt-teleute-26159-1
grey 26167  0.0  0.6  1108  396 pts/6S02:34   0:00 grep grey
grey 26168  0.0  1.6  2644 1036 pts/6R02:34   0:00 ps ux

As you can see, quite a few running here, pretty much all running
something else.

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Secondary mailserver

[Andreas Palsson]

Hello.

How do I set up my debian-system to act as a secondary mailserver for
another host?

I know that his DNS should be configured like:
"IN MX 10 mail.friendsserver.org."
"IN MX 20 mail.myserver.org."

But what I do not know is how to configure Exim on the primary and the
secondary server.

Anyone have and idea on this?

regards...
Andreas

Verifying corrupt /var/lib/dpkg. Anyone?

[Douglas Eck]

In upgrading I somehow corrupted my dpkg database. For
example, /var/lib/dpkg/status showed net-tools installed
but they weren't really there. That is, for example, ifconfig
was *nowhere* on my hard drive. Oddly, when I looked in
/var/lib/dpkg/info there were no net-tools* files. So
it seems that part of dpkg knew about the problem (the info
directory) but another part was ignorant (the status file).

S... I think I could find most of my problems by
just printing out the list of files in /var/lib/dpkg/status 
that show as installed but do not have accompanying files 
in /var/lib/dpkg/info. Then I could print out all files
in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list that claim to be installed
but are not really on the hard drive.

If I had done such a thing, I would have noted that
ifup, ifdown, ifconfig were not on my hard drive
after upgrading! And I wouldn't have rebooted my machine. 
Needless to say, my machine did not
boot properly. I had to copy relevant binaries from 
my potato rescue disks so that I could bring up my network
card and ftp to ftp.debian.org and grab the relevant packages. 

I guess the question is: are there tools for verifying
the debian dpkg databases against the hard drive? 
What I described could be done in a 30 line perl
script (by me) or a 4 line perl script (by a perl
write-once read-never sadist :-)   But I'll not
write such a script if one already exists. 

Ideas? This seems important to me. And in fact, I'm mildly
suprised that dselect doesn't do this already. 

RTFM flames are gladly accepted. I looked around but perhaps
missed an obvious utility. 

-Doug Eck

Re: Apt and NFS?

[Ethan Benson]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 04:03:58AM -0500, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 10:53:18PM -0800,
> Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > try this program i found it in the BTS regarding mutt and NFS:
> 
> It seems to have the same problem.
> 
> # ./a.out /mnt/apt/foo
> fcntl()=-1, errno=9

interesting, it seems you do, when i run it i get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] src]$ ./locktest root.bin
fcntl()=0, errno=0


this is on my NFS mounted /home

i don't see anything special in my exports or fstab files...  

what kernel version? 

oh did you check to make sure you have lockd running on both machines?  

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disk error "no DRQ after issuing WRITE"

[JP Glutting]

Hi Everyone,

I have just installed Potato on an old P233. I put it
on a new 17GB UDMA drive (Seagate), which the bios
does not recognize correctly. It works fine with
kernel 2.2.17, but I get the following message from
time to time:

hda: status timeout: state=0xd0 { Busy }
hda: no DRQ after issuing WRITE
ide0: reset: success

normally when I am doing some intensive disk access
(like updatedb, for example). If I boot from a floppy
with kernel 2.0.36, this does not happen.

Any information at all would be helpful, but my
specific question is this - Is this a problem with the
2.2.17 kernel, working with an old bios/motherboard (I
also installed the 2.2.17 kernel patched for UDMA
disks, but this has not helped...)? Is this some type
of disk failure that the 2.0.36 kernel does not
report, but that the new kernel does? Is there a way
to deal with this in software, or should I think about
returning the hard drive?

Many Thanks,

JP

Montse Rue
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Re: Apt and NFS?

[Ethan Benson]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 02:52:26AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> oh did you check to make sure you have lockd running on both machines?  

i just remembered something else i had to do to get locking working,
it seems that sometimes you have to compile in NFSD support into the
CLIENT kernel as well as the server kernel.  there is also LOCKD
support in the kernel which is not accessable in the kenrel
configuration menus, on one of my x86 boxes its fine without NFSD
compiled in, but on my powerpc i have to have NFSD compiled in for
lockd to work, otherwise lockd just dies with `Function Not Implemented'


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where's xfree40 ?

[Mariusz . Przygodzki]

Why xfree4.0 packages disapeared from http://www.debian.org/~branden/ ?

Where's "The X Strike Force" page now?

Re: Apt and NFS?

[Henrique M Holschuh]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 02:52:26AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > oh did you check to make sure you have lockd running on both machines?  
> 
> i just remembered something else i had to do to get locking working,
> it seems that sometimes you have to compile in NFSD support into the
> CLIENT kernel as well as the server kernel.  there is also LOCKD
> support in the kernel which is not accessable in the kenrel
> configuration menus, on one of my x86 boxes its fine without NFSD
> compiled in, but on my powerpc i have to have NFSD compiled in for
> lockd to work, otherwise lockd just dies with `Function Not Implemented'

I'd like to point people with NFS lock problems to nfs.sourceforge.net.
Stock 2.2.17 and older kernels have quite a broken NFS implementation.

I don't know if the debian official kernel packages have this patch
built-in, though.

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Soundblaster 128PCI problems

[Zeth Rodriguez]

I've just installed Debian Potato, and during the installation process 
answeared yes for sound suport. How do I configure it?
When I do a cat on /proc/pci the system finds the card, but when I try to 
load the modules I get "Unresolved symbol unregister_sound_mixeretc.".
Also tried the "sndconfig" from Woody, but got the message unknown 
vendor/model.


Does anyone have suggestions to this problem?



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Re: Debian 2.2 ¥i¤£¥i¥H¤ä´©TNT2??

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I have the no DRQ... error, too.

[Tóth Csaba]

Hali!

I have that error, too:

hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 {busy}
hda: no DRQ after issuing WRITE
ide0: reset: success

I build my kernel with the ide patch, because i need to use
udma66. I need the speed...
I enable the "sharing ide irqs" function, but i don't know
it causes the problem or not. (I hope it does ;)) ).

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Re: mouse moving

[nw x]

Hi,George:
Thanks for your information. and I am now using Gnome. So would you please 
tell me which file that I can change to finish this configuation?

Thanks a lot!

Nianwei



From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: nw x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: mouse moving
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:07:14 -0700 (PDT)


It depends on your window manager. What you appear to want is "click to
focus" rather than "focus follows mouse". Another option is "sloppy
focus" where focus does not leave a window unless the cursor rests on a
new window for some period of time.

Which window manager ( e.g. WindowMaker, FVWM, etc) are you using?

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, nw x wrote:

> Hi, debians:
> I have a question about the mouse: when I start up some application 
windows,
> for example, acroread, the color in that window will change rapidly with 
the

> motion of my mouse, so is it possible to change the confugration of the
> mouse to make the color in the application window changing with the 
click of

> the mouse?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Nianwei
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Re: pppd error message. Thank you.

[Debian User]

Roger Waters wrote:

> Debian User wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have the following error message when starting pppd:
> > /usr/sbin/pppd -detach
> > /usr/sbin/pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself
> > /usr/sbin/pppd: but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for
> > it to use to do so.
> > /usr/sbin/pppd: (None of the available passwords would let in use an IP
> > address.)
> >
> > Please, can anyone help me with this error ? Wich script in /etc/ppp is
> > responsible for that error and must be modified ?
> >
> > Adrian Nims
>
> TRY TO SET THE "noauth" OPTION IN "/etc/PPP/options"

Thank you ! That was it ! Now pppd works fine.


Adrian Nims

Re: isdn Problem (newbie)

[Clemens Hermann]

Hi,

> looks like the machine doesn't see your card. 

it does ;-)

> check that it's properly
> installed (pci slots are a bit hard to press a card into, sometimes),

I am using this card in my SySE Linux (this message is sent via the
card) and YAST2 detected it on the first try.

> and also check with lspci that the kernel actually recognizes the card

it is listed as 
AVM Audiovisuelles MKTG & Computer System GmbH|A1 ISDN [Fritz]

> and that it is indeed an AVM card as you believe

it is

> Pf

thanks for your help, it would be great if I could get some more hints

Clemens

Re: Help!! I need my LS120

[David Wright]

Quoting Christopher W. Aiken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I have an external, parallel port, LS120 floppy drive (128Mb).
> When I tried MD 6.2, SuSE 6.2, MD 7.1, Caldera 2.4 flavors
> of Linux all I had to do was:
> 
> modprobe paride
> modprobe epat
> modprobe pf
> mount -t vfat /dev/pf0 /mnt
> 
> and I could use my LS120 just as any other floppy.
> 
> When I do this in Debian 2.2 I get an error that there
> is no device /dev/pf0.  I attached /dev and did a "./MAKEDEV pf0"
> ( and ./MAKEDEV pf ) and got the error don't know what "pf0" is.
> I tried a "./MAKEDEV update" and also got a "don't know how to 
> make device "pf".

I think someone has attached a script, but just in case it doesn't
work, or so that you can help yourself out of future problems,
take a look at the kernel source, Documentation/devices.txt, where
all the device names and special numbers are listed that you might
need for the mknod command.

Cheers,

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Re: where's xfree40 ?

[Richard P. Groenewegen]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 01:06:04PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Why xfree4.0 packages disapeared from http://www.debian.org/~branden/ ?

I guess this is what you're looking for:
http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/woody/

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Re: enlightenment epplets

[Frederik]

> I installed the epplets package, but the enlightenment menu's epplets
> section is still empty. I tried restarting enlightenment, but that didn't
> help. 
> I can run them in a shell, but the menu doesn't list them.

Shift+left mouse click -> Maintenance -> Regenerate Menus
This should do the trick...

Re: isdn Problem (newbie)

[Shaul Karl]

> Hi,
> 
> I got a debian 2.2 set up but I do not get ISDN to run.
> I want to use an AVM PCI Card which run under SuSE so it should be no
> hardware proplem or similar.
> 
> I have read the ISDN-Howto and the chapter in the debian linux guide.
> The problem occurs when I try to load the hisax module via modconf.
> The messages in syslog look like this:
> 
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Linux Driver for passive ISDN
> cards
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Version 3.3e (module)
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Layer1 Revision 2.37
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Layer2 Revision 2.20
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: TeiMgr Revision 2.13
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Layer3 Revision 2.10
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: LinkLayer Revision 2.40
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Approval certification valid
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Approved with ELSA Quickstep
> series cards
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Approval registration numbers:
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: German D133361J CETECOM ICT
> Services GmbH
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: EU (D133362J) CETECOM ICT Services
> GmbH
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Approved with Eicon Technology
> Diva 2.01 PCI cards
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Card 1 Protocol EDSS1 Id=line0 (0)
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: AVM driver Rev. 2.11
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: AVM A1 hscx A fifo port 0 already
> in use
> Sep 25 16:45:33 ramses kernel: HiSax: Card AVM A1 not installed !
> 
> Thanks for any hint
> 
> Clemens
> 



Did you compile the kernel with the appropriate support? Are you passing it 
the appropriate params (or giving the module the params it need)?

You might want to look at /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.2.17/Documentation/isdn 
and /usr/share/doc/isdnutils.

BTW: You mentioned `the chapter in the debian linux guide'. Can you give me a 
pointer to this doc? I could not find it in the online version of the tdlug 
package.

[15:26:31 /tmp]$ zgrep -A28 ISDN /var/log/messages.0 | head -28
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: ISDN subsystem Rev: 
1.100/1.84/1.114/1.63/1.17/1.4 loaded
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Linux Driver for passive ISDN cards
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Version 3.3e (module)
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Layer1 Revision 2.37
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Layer2 Revision 2.20
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: TeiMgr Revision 2.13
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Layer3 Revision 2.10
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: LinkLayer Revision 2.40
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Approval certification valid
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Approved with ELSA Quickstep series 
cards
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Approval registration numbers:
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: German D133361J CETECOM ICT Services 
GmbH
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: EU (D133362J) CETECOM ICT Services GmbH
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Approved with Eicon Technology Diva 
2.01 PCI cards
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Warning - no protocol specified
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Note! module load syntax has changed.
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: using protocol EURO
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: Card 1 Protocol EDSS1 Id=HiSax (0)
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: AVM PCI driver Rev. 1.14
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: AVM PCI: stat 0x2020a
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: AVM PCI: Class A Rev 2
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: AVM Fritz!PCI config irq:11 base:0x6100
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: AVM PCI: ISAC version (0): 2086/2186 V1.1
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: AVM Fritz PnP/PCI: IRQ 11 count 0
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: AVM Fritz PnP/PCI: IRQ 11 count 6
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: DSS1 Rev. 2.23
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: 2 channels added
Sep 17 15:05:03 rakefet kernel: HiSax: MAX_WAITING_CALLS added
[15:26:43 /tmp]$ 



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ODP: where's xfree40 ?

[Mariusz . Przygodzki]

Thank you. I found.

Mariusz

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Do: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Temat: Re: where's xfree40 ?


On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 01:06:04PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Why xfree4.0 packages disapeared from http://www.debian.org/~branden/ ?

I guess this is what you're looking for:
http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/woody/

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MP3 streaming

[Liam Ward]

Hi all,

I'm just about to begin my quest for an MP3 streaming server to run 
on 2.2. I need to support on-demand plus continuous streaming. If 
anyone has blazed this particular trail already and has some pointers 
I'd be very grateful.

Thanks,

Liam


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Re: quick upgrade help needed-kernel image not wanted

[Nate Amsden]

couldn't you just remove the kernel package?

aphro:/home/aphro# dpkg -l | grep kernel
ii  device3dfx 2.3-6  Device driver for 3Dfx boards for 2.x
kernel
ii  pciutils   2.1.2-2Linux PCI Utilities (for 2.[123].x
kernels)
ii  pump   0.7.3-2Simple DHCP/BOOTP client for 2.2.x
kernels


aphro:/home/aphro# dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.15
dpkg: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.15 not found.

i run my own kernels too but they usually have unique names for the most
part:


aphro:/home/aphro# ls /boot
System.map-2.2.15  mbr.b   vmlinuz-2.2.16+usb-UP
boot.0800  os2_d.b vmlinuz-2.2.16+usb-UP+es1370
boot.b vmlinuz-2.2.14-271201   vmlinuz-2.2.17
chain.bvmlinuz-2.2.15  vmlinuz-2.2.17pre18+usb
config-2.2.15  vmlinuz-2.2.16+usb  vmlinuz-2.2.17pre18+usb+more
mapvmlinuz-2.2.16+usb+nosound

apt-get has never(thankfully) touched my kernel(s). i run home brew
kernels on every machine i build and its been the same accross all of
them. dont remember doing anythign special to get apt-get to ignore it.
and no i dont do it the 'debian way' as i could never figure out how
that shit works so all the kernels are from ftp.kernel.org.

nate


Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> 
> I decided I likely had answered my own question.  Copied the modules
> directory and modules.conf files, then let apt install over my image (after
> which the upgrade finished normally).  I then immediately reinstalled the
> custom over that.  Recopied the old files back and was done.
> 
> Kenward
> 
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 09:08:39PM -0400, Joey Tsai wrote:
> > I had the same problem.  I just did a make-kpkg with "-revision 2:Custom.2" 
> > (my
> > previous custom kernel was "Custom.1")  and installed the new custom 
> > kernel.  I
> > don't know if this is the "right" or "best" way, but apt is cool now.
> >
> >   // joey tsai
> >
> >
> > :: Kenward Vaughan ::
> > > I'm in the middle of a woody upgrade, and discovered that the latest 
> > > greatest
> > > kernel image has been DL'd and is attemping to overwrite my custom 2.2.17
> ...
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apt-get size mismatch with woody

[Jason Holland]

hey all,
  ever since i upgraded to woody, i've been getting a size mismatch with
apt-get.

Get:2 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main tetex-lib 1.0.7+2807-2 [33.4kB]
Failed to fetch
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/tex/tetex-bin_1.
0.7+2807-2.deb
  Size mismatch
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

i've tried running apt-get with --fix-missing, but it doesn't help.  anyone
have any ideas or suggestions on how to fix this?  thanks!

jason

Re: apt-get size mismatch with woody

[Gareth Bowker]

Jason Holland wrote:
> 
> hey all,
>   ever since i upgraded to woody, i've been getting a size mismatch with
> apt-get.
> 
> Get:2 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main tetex-lib 1.0.7+2807-2 [33.4kB]
> Failed to fetch
> ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/tex/tetex-bin_1.
> 0.7+2807-2.deb
>   Size mismatch
> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
> 
> i've tried running apt-get with --fix-missing, but it doesn't help.  anyone
> have any ideas or suggestions on how to fix this?  thanks!

I get this every so often too. I just rerun apt-get update. What seems
to happen is that the last byte of the packages isn't being downloaded
for some reason.
Rerunning apt-get update grabs this final byte and everything works
perfectly after this. I always put it down to the fact that we have to
run through a webcache here (which quite often doesn't work as it
should), but it could be down to the debian servers/mirrors or apt
*shrug*. I've never looked into it as rerunning fixes it.

Hope this helps,

Gareth
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Re: apt-get size mismatch with woody

[somogyi lorand]

try:
apt-get update
this will update your list,
it seams that there is a new version on the net...

Good luck,
Lori.


Jason Holland wrote:

> hey all,
>   ever since i upgraded to woody, i've been getting a size mismatch with
> apt-get.
>
> Get:2 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main tetex-lib 1.0.7+2807-2 [33.4kB]
> Failed to fetch
> ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/tex/tetex-bin_1.
> 0.7+2807-2.deb
>   Size mismatch
> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>
> i've tried running apt-get with --fix-missing, but it doesn't help.  anyone
> have any ideas or suggestions on how to fix this?  thanks!
>
> jason
>
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RE: apt-get size mismatch with woody

[Jason Holland]

Yep, usually running apt-get update twice fixes it for me also.  A few times
i had to manually install all the updates.  Yuk! :)  Thanks for the replies!

Jason

>
> Jason Holland wrote:
> >
> > hey all,
> >   ever since i upgraded to woody, i've been getting a size mismatch with
> > apt-get.
> >
> > Get:2 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org woody/main tetex-lib
> 1.0.7+2807-2 [33.4kB]
> > Failed to fetch
> >
> ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/tex/te
> tex-bin_1.
> > 0.7+2807-2.deb
> >   Size mismatch
> > E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
> >
> > i've tried running apt-get with --fix-missing, but it doesn't
> help.  anyone
> > have any ideas or suggestions on how to fix this?  thanks!
>
> I get this every so often too. I just rerun apt-get update. What seems
> to happen is that the last byte of the packages isn't being downloaded
> for some reason.
> Rerunning apt-get update grabs this final byte and everything works
> perfectly after this. I always put it down to the fact that we have to
> run through a webcache here (which quite often doesn't work as it
> should), but it could be down to the debian servers/mirrors or apt
> *shrug*. I've never looked into it as rerunning fixes it.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Gareth
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Re: apt-get size mismatch with woody

[Gareth Bowker]

Gareth Bowker wrote:



> I get this every so often too. I just rerun apt-get update. What seems
> to happen is that the last byte of the packages isn't being downloaded
> for some reason.

Oops, I actually meant apt-get upgrade, not update. It's normally
grabbing the lists that causes that problem for me, although the cause
is always the same (missing final byte)

Gareth
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RE: apt-get size mismatch with woody

[Jason Holland]

Is there anyway to bypass the size check?  I didn't see anything in the man
page.  Just curious..

Jason

>
> Gareth Bowker wrote:
>
> 
>
> > I get this every so often too. I just rerun apt-get update. What seems
> > to happen is that the last byte of the packages isn't being downloaded
> > for some reason.
>
> Oops, I actually meant apt-get upgrade, not update. It's normally
> grabbing the lists that causes that problem for me, although the cause
> is always the same (missing final byte)
>
> Gareth
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>

Re: apt-get size mismatch with woody

[Gareth Bowker]

Jason Holland wrote:
> 
> Is there anyway to bypass the size check?  I didn't see anything in the man
> page.  Just curious..

Having never looked into the details of how apt works (well, I did once
but I've since forgotten) I'd have thought that the final byte is
probably quite important - after all, it may not decompress
properly/work at all without it, so telling it not to perform the size
check wouldn't achieve anything. You'd probably just end up with broken
packages...

Gareth
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RE: apt-get size mismatch with woody

[Jason Holland]

yeah, that would be important.  looks like I'm gonna be looking at some
source code today.  and to think my day started out boring. thanks!

jason

> >
> > Is there anyway to bypass the size check?  I didn't see
> anything in the man
> > page.  Just curious..
>
> Having never looked into the details of how apt works (well, I did once
> but I've since forgotten) I'd have thought that the final byte is
> probably quite important - after all, it may not decompress
> properly/work at all without it, so telling it not to perform the size
> check wouldn't achieve anything. You'd probably just end up with broken
> packages...
>
>

Shutdown as normal user

[Jörg]

Hi

I'm using Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 and the Helix-Gnome desktop. The problem
is, that the 'gshutdown' program wants to be run as root. So I always
have to log in as root and shut down the computer. How can I change
'gshutdown' so that a normal user can run it, too? I tried to set it
suid root, but this caused the problem, that root is not allowed to
display his windows on a user's screen (any idea how to change this,
too?).

Thanks in advance,

joerg

Unidentified subject!

[dochawk]

Subject: Re: PPP failure on the startup (serial line is looped back) 
In-Reply-To: Message from John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
   of "25 Sep 2000 17:31:58 CDT." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
References:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

john jabbed,

> dochawk writes:
> > What does "serial line is looped back" mean?

> It means that pppd is seeing its own LCP packets coming back.  This usually
> happens when the host on the other end wants to see more text before it
> starts pppd and is echoing everything it sees while it waits for the
> required string.  

It's happening far too fast for that--It'sa only about a second from 
my telling it to do this to failure (with the failure message hidden 
behind the blue menu screens).  There's no way that it's even dialing 
out, let alone getting through and making contacr.  

> Dial up your ISP with minicom and work through the login
> procedure by hand to see how it works (this is not a method of connecting:
> it's just research).  Post the results along with the contents of
> /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider.  Munge passwords.

Can I just install the minicom deb on the raw abase system?  I thought 
that there was a problem with this (but it's been a few years; maybe 
I'm just badly mistaken . . .))

hawk

Re: Shutdown as normal user

[Joerg Friedrich]

Look at the packages super or sudo

On Die, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:35:21 +0200, Jörg wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm using Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 and the Helix-Gnome desktop. The problem
> is, that the 'gshutdown' program wants to be run as root. So I always
> have to log in as root and shut down the computer. How can I change
> 'gshutdown' so that a normal user can run it, too? I tried to set it
> suid root, but this caused the problem, that root is not allowed to
> display his windows on a user's screen (any idea how to change this,
> too?).
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> joerg
> 
> 
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Re: sawfish doesn't work

[Ian Zimmerman]

> "Michael" == Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Michael> I think the default sweetpill theme for sawfish is missing
Michael> from the sources.  This means that you have no raise-lower
Michael> buttons or even frames on the windows.  Try using sawfish and
Michael> then running the configuration tool.  Change the appearance
Michael> to microgui or anything else, and then close out all your
Michael> current windows.  The new ones should be OK.  I've been
Michael> installing about 5 workstations this week, and that's what I
Michael> had to do with all of them.

The missing theme is in another package, helix-sweetpill or so.  The
helix people made it the default but omitted adding a dependency to
the sawfish package.  So if this is the whole problem, just apt-get
install helix-sweetpill first and it should work.

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scroll lock in rxvt

[Ethan Benson]

this seems obvious but i haven't found a solution yet..

control s activates the scroll lock, which in the console i can
release by pressing the scroll lock key on my keyboard (i thought
control w was also supposed to release it but it does not work on my
systems) 

however in X using rxvt if i inadvertantly press control s my rxvt
window has the scroll lock activated, and unlike the console pressing
the scroll lock key does not release it.  nor does control w.  

scroll lock makes the shell window pretty worthless, and in rxvt i
have not found a solution other then running a new rxvt and killing
the old one...  can anyone tell me what the real scroll lock release
key is?

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Re: isdn Problem (newbie)

[Clemens Hermann]

Hi,

> Did you compile the kernel with the appropriate support? 

I did not compile a new kernel at all. I used the CD-Distribution from
Linuxland. The Debian Linux Guide refers to this (and it is distributed
with the CD-Set) so it should not be necessary to compile a kernel,
should it?

> BTW: You mentioned `the chapter in the debian linux guide'. Can you give me a
> pointer to this doc? 

it is a book but in the editorial there is mentioned that it is the
printed version of an online document (no URL was given).

The ISBN is 3-00-006063-4. You can find a description of this book on
www.amazon.de.

> I could not find it in the online version of the tdlug
> package.

perhaps the title on amazon might give you a hint from which
online-document the book is derived.

thanks for your help

Clemens

Re: quick upgrade help needed-kernel image not wanted

[David Wright]

Quoting Nate Amsden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> couldn't you just remove the kernel package?

There isn't a "kernel" package. There are packages with names like
kernel-package, kernel-image..., kernel-source..., etc.

> apt-get has never(thankfully) touched my kernel(s). i run home brew
> kernels on every machine i build and its been the same accross all of
> them. dont remember doing anythign special to get apt-get to ignore it.
> and no i dont do it the 'debian way' as i could never figure out how
> that shit works so all the kernels are from ftp.kernel.org.

Well if you don't do it the Debian way, then your kernels don't belong
to the distribution, so why would apt-get touch them?

Telling people just not to use the Debian packaging system is a little
silly in my opinion. You've obviously taken the decision to build your
system is a quite unconventional manner which has its own down side,
but I think it's wise to let people on this list take the Debian advice
that's offered without your trying to subvert it and calling it shit.

Everybody who uses the kernel-package to compile kernels should use
the epoch to avoid the replacement problem.

If they already have a kernel package without it that they need to
use, they should "hold" it.

Cheers,

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Re: serial line loopback

[David Wright]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > > What does "serial line is looped back" mean?
> 
> > It means that pppd is seeing its own LCP packets coming back.  This usually
> > happens when the host on the other end wants to see more text before it
> > starts pppd and is echoing everything it sees while it waits for the
> > required string.  
> 
> It's happening far too fast for that--It'sa only about a second from 
> my telling it to do this to failure (with the failure message hidden 
> behind the blue menu screens).  There's no way that it's even dialing 
> out, let alone getting through and making contacr.  

Much the same applies, with the modem doing the reflecting.

> > Dial up your ISP with minicom and work through the login
> > procedure by hand to see how it works (this is not a method of connecting:
> > it's just research).  Post the results along with the contents of
> > /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider.  Munge passwords.
> 
> Can I just install the minicom deb on the raw abase system?  I thought 
> that there was a problem with this (but it's been a few years; maybe 
> I'm just badly mistaken . . .))

I've had no problem with this (as far back as buzz).

Cheers,

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Re: debian: C library man pages

[Michel Dänzer]

Brendan J Simon wrote:
> 
> I can't find the C library manpages.  I'm running Potato on a PowerMac
> and Intel system.
> I have install manpages, libc6 and glibc-doc.  I can't find any other
> appropriate package by using "apt-cache pkgnames" or "apt-cache search".
> 
> What package do I need to install to get the C library manpages.

The description of manpages-dev says it contains such, but that glibc-doc may
contain more accurate information - maybe just not in manpages but rather in
texinfo?


Michel


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Re: debian: C library man pages

[Daniel Jacobowitz]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:31:22PM +1100, Brendan J Simon wrote:
> 
> I can't find the C library manpages.  I'm running Potato on a PowerMac
> and Intel system.
> I have install manpages, libc6 and glibc-doc.  I can't find any other
> appropriate package by using "apt-cache pkgnames" or "apt-cache search".
> 
> What package do I need to install to get the C library manpages.

manpages-dev.

However, you should get into the habit of using 'info' for the C
library documentation - the info documentation is in glibc-doc, and
kept in sync with the library, while the man pages are often years out
of date.

Dan

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Re: scroll lock in rxvt

[Edward C. Lang]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

> "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

EB> this seems obvious but i haven't found a solution yet..

EB> control s activates the scroll lock, which in the console i can
EB> release by pressing the scroll lock key on my keyboard (i
EB> thought control w was also supposed to release it but it does
EB> not work on my systems)

C-q, not C-w

EB> however in X using rxvt if i inadvertantly press control s my
EB> rxvt window has the scroll lock activated, and unlike the
EB> console pressing the scroll lock key does not release it.  nor
EB> does control w.

C-q. As above.

EB> scroll lock makes the shell window pretty worthless, and in rxvt
EB> i have not found a solution other then running a new rxvt and
EB> killing the old one...  can anyone tell me what the real scroll
EB> lock release key is?

As from stty -a:

...
start = ^Q; 
stop = ^S;
...

Regards,

Edward.

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attachment to the no DRQ error

[Tóth Csaba]

Halika!

I probed a kernel without the "share ide's irq" option, and
the error wasn't solved, so i gave up...

Csaba Tóth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: debian 2.2 on Ultra160? (fwd)

[Wayne Topa]

Subject: debian 2.2 on Ultra160? (fwd)
Date: Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 04:07:11PM -0700

In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> just in a reply to myself i tried going with mandrake7 with no luck it
> crashed pretty hard within 30 seconds of installation.
> 
> so i went to the bios and turned the memory down from 133mhz to 100mhz,
> mandrake install is about 75% complete so im betting the memory is just
> too shitty to run at 133mhz.
> 
> even tho i love debian best, i reallyu like mandrake for things like this,
> real quick and easy to install and run(with tons of apps) then i can wipe
> the box out and install debian once im ready to get serious :)
> 
> nate

Had a simular problem with a Abit Px5 MB I picked up used.  It has an
AMD k6-200 and a 32M dimm.  Debian installed and ran fine until I did
a kernel compile.  Then it would fail during kernel compiles only.
Dropping the clock speed down to 166Mhz fixed it for a while but then
it got cranky.  Changed the dimm to a 100Mhz sdram, tuned the memory
settings in the bios and now it is solid.  It still won't compile a
kernel if I clock the CPU at 200Mhz, ergo CPU is marked incorrectly.

As an aside.  The bigomips were 299.67 when it was clocked at 200Mhz
with the old ram.  Now at 166Mhz with the PC100 ram, and the bios
tuned for that ram, the bigomips are 333.41.

Running a RH based dist would not stress a system any more/less then
any other dist IMO.  Running a RH based dist _would_ put more stress
on me tho.  If it wouldn't run Debian I would dunp the hardware before
I would load RH.  Or sell it to someone that runs Winbloz.  The are
used to the "blue screens of death" and seem to expect it.

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #99

[Fraser Campbell]

will trillich wrote:

> i'm going NUTS here... help! pointers would be handy, but i've
> found many documents hither and yon on the 'net and NONE have been
> turnkey... there's always some obscure obstacle or error message
> that i have no clue as to the meaning behind it.

Run ppp over SSH (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/VPN.html)
Run FreeS/WAN (http://www.freeswan.org/)

I haven't used the ppp over ssh option but people I work with have had good
success with it.  No compiling of software just set it up and off you go.

I've only run FreeS/WAN under Redhat but it will work under Debian just as
well.  Compile a new kernel, configure and go.

As someone already suggested, SSH can forward ports for you ... that will
give you secure access to services ... you only need ppp over ssh if you
want full network access.

Fraser

[OT] History: GNUStep vs. Gnome

[Ian Zimmerman]

Hello.  This crossed my mind more than once: why was the Gnome project
started, when there was already something called GNUStep?  Even if not
a full desktop, one can certainly see the beginnings of desktop-like
functionality in WindowMaker or AfterStep.  Was it just not
cool-looking enough? :(

-- 
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In his own soul a man bears the source
from which he draws all his sorrows and his joys.
Sophocles.

Re: Shutdown as normal user

[George Bonser]

As a general rule, you do not want to allow regular users to shut the
system down but if you are at the console ... have you tried
control-alt-delete?



On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Jörg wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I'm using Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 and the Helix-Gnome desktop. The problem
> is, that the 'gshutdown' program wants to be run as root. So I always
> have to log in as root and shut down the computer. How can I change
> 'gshutdown' so that a normal user can run it, too? I tried to set it
> suid root, but this caused the problem, that root is not allowed to
> display his windows on a user's screen (any idea how to change this,
> too?).
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> joerg
> 
> 
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Re: Secondary mailserver

[George Bonser]

In your /etc/exim.conf there is an item like this:

relay_domains_include_local_mx

make sure it looks like this:

relay_domains_include_local_mx = true

and that should fix the problem.


On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Andreas Palsson wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> How do I set up my debian-system to act as a secondary mailserver for
> another host?
> 
> I know that his DNS should be configured like:
> "IN MX 10 mail.friendsserver.org."
> "IN MX 20 mail.myserver.org."
> 
> But what I do not know is how to configure Exim on the primary and the
> secondary server.
> 
> Anyone have and idea on this?
> 
> regards...
>   Andreas
> 
> 
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Re: Shutdown as normal user

[Kovacs Istvan]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:35:21 +0200, Jörg wrote:

>I'm using Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 and the Helix-Gnome desktop. The problem
>is, that the 'gshutdown' program wants to be run as root. So I always
>have to log in as root and shut down the computer.

If you log out of Gnome, you can perform a shutdown from the GDM System
menu. You'll have to enable this somewhere in its config files -- by
default, it won't let you shut down the system from that menu.

Kofa

More details about "sharing ide irqs"?

[Shaul Karl]

Where can I find more details about "sharing ide irqs"?
My motivation: currently I am using irq 14 for hda and irq15 for hdb, and I 
want to free one of these.
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Re: Subscribing troubles

[Mike Fedyk]

Michael Smith wrote:
> 
> Were you sending the subscribe message in html or with a signature?  That's 
> usually
> the reason.
> 
> Mike Fedyk wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have had a hell of a time subscribing to debian-user from home.  I suspect
> > there is some issue in the email database, as I have subscribed 
> > successfully to
> > several other debian mailing lists.
> >
> > My home address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Can someone take a look at this?
> > --
> >
> > Mike Fedyk   "They that can give up essential liberty
> > Information Systems   to obtain a little temporary safety
> > Match Mail Productions Inc.   deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Ben Franklin
> >
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> (541)346-7562

No, I don't have a sig at home, but I do at work without trouble.  Go fig.

I think that I may be on a list of people that have connectivity trouble.  I was
using a email service that would go down often a while ago, but switched.
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Re: Subscribing troubles

[Mike Fedyk]

Colin Watson wrote:
> 
> Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have had a hell of a time subscribing to debian-user from home.  I suspect
> >there is some issue in the email database, as I have subscribed successfully 
> >to
> >several other debian mailing lists.
> 
> I usually find that, if I have problems with either the mail interface
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED], subject line "subscribe") or the
> web interface (http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe), the other
> one tends to work.
> 
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> 
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I have tried both, but maybe I messed up with the email request.  I'll try
again.
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Match Mail Productions Inc.   deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Re: sawfish doesn't work

[Andrew D Dixon]

Thanks.  Problem solved.

Andy

Michael Smith wrote:

> I think the default sweetpill theme for sawfish is missing from the sources.  
> This
> means that you have no raise-lower buttons or even frames on the windows.  
> Try using
> sawfish and then running the configuration tool.  Change the appearance to 
> microgui
> or anything else, and then close out all your current windows.  The new ones 
> should
> be OK.  I've been installing about 5 workstations this week, and that's what 
> I had to
> do with all of them.
>
> HTH
> --Mike
>
> Andrew D Dixon wrote:
>
> > I upgraded again and sawfish still doesn't work.
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > thanks,
> > Andy
> >
> > Mark Gordon wrote:
> >
> > > > Hi Everybody,
> > > > I'm running Debian Potato and I just decided to try out Helix-Gnome.
> > > > Everything was working great untill today when sawfish died on me.  I
> > > > did two things today that may have cause the problem.  I updated and
> > > > upgraded my system:
> > > >
> > > > >apt-get update
> > > > >apt-get upgrade
> > >
> > > Yup, that would do it.  ;-) Our Debian Potato sawfish was broken for a
> > > while late last week.  It should be fixed now (apt-get update & apt-get
> > > upgrade again, of course).
> > >
> > > -Mark Gordon
> >
> > __
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Re: Search Tool for Your Site

[Digital Overdrive]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> While visiting your web site (www.toasty.org), I found your 
> email address and I wanted to let you know of a new search 
> utility (FusionBot.com) 
[.. snaped ..]

Why have I the feeling that this wasn't a smart move ? :)
Spamming around in a mailinglist...

# nslookup www.fusionbot.com
Name:fusionbot.com
Address:  208.131.25.3
Aliases:  www.fusionbot.com

# whois 208.131.25.3
Cable & Wireless USA (NETBLK-CW-10BLK) CW-10BLK  
208.128.0.0 - 208.175.255.255
LOGIKA CORPORATION (NETBLK-CW-208-131-25) CW-208-131-25
208.131.25.0 - 208.131.25.255

Seems obvious to me where to sent the abuse.

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Re: quick upgrade help needed-kernel image not wanted

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 05:58:11AM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote:
> couldn't you just remove the kernel package?
... 
> i run my own kernels too but they usually have unique names for the most
> part:
...

I tried that but found that the installation process had not gotten far
enough into things to create an entry (?) for the installation of the newer
image.  So an attempt to uninstall it prior to completion of the upgrade
would have removed the custom image.  (Is this what you are thinking about?)


> apt-get has never(thankfully) touched my kernel(s). i run home brew
> kernels on every machine i build and its been the same accross all of
> them. dont remember doing anythign special to get apt-get to ignore it.
> and no i dont do it the 'debian way' as i could never figure out how
> that shit works so all the kernels are from ftp.kernel.org.

I think my problem will be solved if I simply put the kernel-image on hold
using aptitude.  This time around I didn't realize that it was on the list
to be upgraded...

Thanks for the help!

Kenward
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?? .Xdefaults ??

[Peter Malewski]

Some time ago I used a file ".Xdefaults" where things like

emacs*Background: DarkSlateGray
emacs*Foreground: White
emacs*pointerColor: Orchid
emacs*cursorColor: Orchid
emacs*bitmapIcon: on

etc. stands. I found in the initial .Xsession that the default place is

usrresources=$HOME/.Xresources

so I changed the files in that folder (like adding another default backround 
for xterm). Why doesn't this have any influence neither if i start with 
"startx" nor "xdm"?? Why is debian so different from other unixes who use 
".Xdefaults"? Where can I place my preferences for X

Thanks for any help
Peter


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Any knowledgeable Afio people out there?

[Barry Samuels]

After Afio has created an archive it produces a message similar
to:

'afio: Final count: 7m+12k+0 bytes written'

Is the size given the size of the files before they were archived
or is it the size of the compressed archive?

My next query is not produced by Afio but by the SCSI Tape module
 when Afio was running.

I use Afio in my backup script and the last backupo failed
because, I think, the tape was faulty.  I have since re-run the
backup successfully with a different tape.

However during the failed backup the following messages were
added to /var/log/messages:

Sep 26 09:07:55 DATAMAN1 kernel: st0: Error with sense data: Info
fld=0x3fff, Current st09:00: sense key Medium Error
Sep 26 09:07:55 DATAMAN1 kernel: Additional sense indicates
Medium format corrupted

This in itself is not surprising but there were about 20,000
similar lines.  Could that be considered normal under the
circumstances?

Barry Samuels

Re: [OT] History: GNUStep vs. Gnome

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On 26 Sep 2000, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

> Hello.  This crossed my mind more than once: why was the Gnome project
> started, when there was already something called GNUStep?  Even if not
> a full desktop, one can certainly see the beginnings of desktop-like
> functionality in WindowMaker or AfterStep.  Was it just not
> cool-looking enough? :(
> 

It wasn't KDE enough ;-)

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kde2 for potato

[Marc Maute]

hi,
can you tell me the package name
for kde2 beta

thanks

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Manual for apt

[Peter Hugosson-Miller]

Where can I download/view a manual for apt? I have 2.0 installed, so
there's no apt  on my machine.

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"Quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur."

CD distro

[endroo]

can u guy there tell me where to get a economy/cheap CD distro of Debian
2.2 ? Cheap Byte?!! there are a few to choose there...and i don't know
which is the installable.

Thanks.

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lvm

[Julio Merino]

Hi all,

I have now a currently working Potato system organized in simple
partitions as I posted in another message. Well, my question is about
how can I use LVM.

Can I convert my current installation structure in a LVM one ? Do I
have to reinstall all my system ? HOW ?
Potato install doesn't contemplates LVM.

Thanks.

Re: Shutdown as normal user

[USM Bish]

Solution 1:

I use a program called "usershutdown", which I am using from
my Slackware days 2 years ago. Don't remember where I got it
from. Can send the source as an attachment in personal mail.

Solution 2:

3 finger salute ! [Ctrl-Alt-Del]

ciao

USM Bish


On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:35:21PM +0200, Jörg wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm using Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 and the Helix-Gnome desktop. The problem
> is, that the 'gshutdown' program wants to be run as root. So I always
> have to log in as root and shut down the computer. How can I change
> 'gshutdown' so that a normal user can run it, too? I tried to set it
> suid root, but this caused the problem, that root is not allowed to
> display his windows on a user's screen (any idea how to change this,
> too?).
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> joerg
> 

Re: CD distro

[Mike Leone]

>can u guy there tell me where to get a economy/cheap CD distro of Debian
>2.2 ? Cheap Byte?!! there are a few to choose there...and i don't know
>which is the installable.

I've bought from CheapBytes before (http://www.cheapbytes.com) with good 
results (couple of versions of Slackware, few other CDs). However, the Debian 
2.2 CDs I bought had an error in CD #1 (and yes, this was the re-issued version 
of 2.2). You could try LinuxMall, too (http://www.linuxmall.com). They sell 
(copies) of the Official Debian CDs for like $8 US, I believe.



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Upgrading to Xfree 4

[Rogelio E. Castillo Haro]

Do you know how to upgrade to Xfree 4.0?
There is something .deb package to use apt?
or must be upgrading manually? If it's so, Is there some HOWTO to do
that?

TIA

Rogelio

Re: how to handle perl modules not "debianed"

[Bernd Worsch]

On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 01:48:24PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
> 
> good question. i wonder about that, too.
> 
> and i just thought of a way to test it.
> 
> find a perl lib that debian DOES have packaged, but
> use CPAN to download and install it.
> 
> test it to make sure all is well.
> 
> you might munge the module a bit to add your own global
> variable, for testing.
> 
> THEN do the apt-get install  and see
> if you can still access your global variable or not...
> 
> when i have time, i may try this. let us know if you run
> this test and what you determine...
> 

Ah, well i'll try that some quiet moment and let you know!

Is there any doc to learn about where debian installs 
PerlModules and why? (Moduletree seems somewhat complicated!) 
 
Does anyone know which information a debianed module contains,
that the CPAN module doesn't?

Thanx for the hint
Bernd

p.s.: If someone could tip me on my apt-get problem,
  motivation on this problem, would be boosted :)
 

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How to see module errors on bootup?

[Kent West]

I know "dmesg" will show the boot-up messages generated (by the 
kernel?); however, this apparently doesn't show the errors generated by 
modules being loaded. These messages go by too fast to catch, and then I 
haven't been able to find a way to read them again.


Can anyone clue me in as to how I can get to these messages?

Thanks!

Re: Soundblaster 128PCI problems

[Christen Welch]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:10:36AM +,
Zeth Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just installed Debian Potato, and during the installation process 
> answeared yes for sound suport. How do I configure it?
> When I do a cat on /proc/pci the system finds the card, but when I try to 
> load the modules I get "Unresolved symbol unregister_sound_mixeretc.".
> Also tried the "sndconfig" from Woody, but got the message unknown 
> vendor/model.
> 
> Does anyone have suggestions to this problem?
> 

I had to install the kernel source and under sound support, select ES1370, as
Creative Labs uses Ensoniq chips now (so it seems). If you've done this, make 
sure that you're inserting the soundcore module first. Hope this helps

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Re: CD distro

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> can u guy there tell me where to get a economy/cheap CD distro of Debian
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Re: Sound testing

[Timothy Bedding]

Chris wrote
> /dev/sndstat was never meant to be relied upon and is now listed as
> obsolete in my kernel source (2.4.0-test7).

Has it been superceded by something else? If so, what?

Tim

RE: apt-get size mismatch with woody

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Jason Holland wrote:

> Is there anyway to bypass the size check?  I didn't see anything in the man
> page.  Just curious..

No, technically the file is corrupt and should not be used without that
final byte.

Jason