Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs

[Christian Lynbech on satellite]

> "Greg" == Greg Strockbine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped
>> tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar,

Greg> well, gee, its starting to sound like emacs  :-)

Just to make the note: emacs is able to browse tar files, even if
compressed, and I believe there is also support for .debs somewhere.


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Re: apt-get & byte compile problem

[Christian Lynbech on satellite]

What packages are we talking about? (You can use `dpkg -S' to match a
particular file to its package).

Some of the larger emacs packages has the .el files in separate
packages in order not to needlessly swamp the system. This includes
emacs itself. 


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Problems running fetchmail in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d

[alan]

Fetchmail is not fetching my email properly when 
invoked from a script in the /etc/ppp/ip-up.d

/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/fetchmail reads ...
#!/bin/sh
# run fetchmail
test -r /etc/fetchmailrc && //
fetchmail --syslog --invisible --fetchmailrc /etc/fetchmailrc

Syslog contains the following ...

Aug 10 20:32:41 calliope fetchmail[9256]: fetchmail: POP3 connection
to pop3.paradise.net.nz failed: temporary name server error. 
Aug 10 20:32:41 calliope fetchmail[9256]: Query status=2 (SOCKET)

/etc/ppp/ip-up.d also contains 00ipmasq to rerun the firewalling rules
over the new interface (ppp0) and 0dns-up which sets up
/etc/resolv.conf for the provider being connected to.

The fetchmail script (above) runs fine from the command line.

For completeness /etc/fetchmailrc reads ... 

poll pop3.paradise.net.nz proto pop3 user [USERNAME] with password
[PASSWORD] 

NB: [ ]'s replace actual values.

TIA
Cheers,
Alan

Re: Exim

[John Pearson]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 03:51:10PM -0300, Alberto Pereira wrote
> I see the question Q0432 but, my problem is in Q0401. But my versionof Exim 
> is .2.05-2
> I put this on the exim.conf:
> 
> system_aliases:
> driver = aliasfile
> domains = z10.com.br
> file = /etc/aliases
> search_type = lsearch*
> 
> and put this on de final line of aliasfile:
> *: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> But ALL mails are delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I want to delivery only the unknowuser.
> 
> Can someone help me?
> 

OK.  First, take out the wildcard line from /etc/aliases (if you
haven't already), and delete the "domains = z10.com.br" line
from your system_aliases director, and reload the exim
configuration with the command
# /etc/init.d/exim reload

so that normal delivery to "real" users works again.

Check that it's basically doing the right thing for both local
and remote addresses with a command like
# exim -bt root [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then, add something like this to the end of the DIRECTORS
section of /etv/exim.conf, just before the "end" statement:

unknown_user:
  driver=smartuser
  new_address="admin"

Reload the exim configuration with
# /etc/init.d/exim reload

and then try it out with something like
# exim -bt nonesuch


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A few misc. problems

[cxpx]

A couple of minor things:

1. I installed xfstt which works fine but I am not able to change the font size
in netscape when using true type fonts.  Anybody ever have that problem?  Are
there some better fonts I could use instead?

2. I did a ftp install using the disks from the 2.2.16 directory.  Upon
installation it says I am using 2.2.17 which is fine.  Can I install the ata66
patch (which seems to only go as high as 2.2.16) on a 2.2.17 kernel?

3. How do I start postgres on startup?  I'm confused with all the different
/etc/rc*.d directories.  This is how I think it is supposed to go: 

'su -c postgres postmaster -i -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >logfile 2>&1 &'

Do I put this in a '/etc/rc?.d/S??postgres' file?  What should go in place of
the question marks?  Do I need a Kill file as well?

4. When I chang the information in linuxconf for eth0 and eth1 the changes
never seem to stick.  Meaning I open it right after closing it and it didn't
save anything.  What are the files that I can edit directly?   On redhat they
are like '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1'

Thanks in advance,
cxpx

Re: Applixware 5 on Debian slink, potato or woody?

[Pap Tibor]

Hi!

I'm using applixware 4 on a Debian Potato system. I have an old Pentium
100 with 64Mb RAM only. It looks fine, can read files coming from MS
office, and very fast. It takes only few seconds to startup om my machine.
So I don't know any good reason to upgrade it, or change it to another
office suit.

--Pap Tibor

On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Stefan Bellon wrote:
> 
> sbello >Now I'd like to know whether anybody has experience with the later
> sbello >Applixware 5 on Debian systems. Does it install without problems?
> 
> installs flawlessly, runs like crap though. for some reason it takes about
> 5 minutes to load on a p3-500 128MB. tries to load some font server?? or
> something i dunno i gave up on it, feels worse then corel office, which
> annoys me when it wont load while mp3s are playing and crashes like mad.
> 
> sbello >I know that it's against the Debian GNU philosophy, but if there's no
> sbello >other application suite with the same features, then I think it's 
> still
> sbello >better than using PowerPoint (that soft of application is the one I'm
> sbello >looking for at most) the other operating system.
> 
> i liked applixware 4 more, staroffice feels good compared to applixware5
> and corel!
> 
> nate
> 
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Re: Missing class member in stl_vector?

[John L. Fjellstad]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 09:23:34PM -0400, Neil L. Roeth wrote:
> Is there a comprehensive list of the non-compliant portions somewhere?

The libstdc++ website is at http://sources.redhat.com/libstdc++/
They have a TODO list of known bugs and non-implemented features.

Also, there are also a mailling list there you can probably ask questions.
 
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Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[Mr Smith]

Has former copies of the Corel LinuxOS Open Circulation
CD-ROM violated the General Public License?

This seems like a straight forward question but one that
Corel has beat around the bush in answering.

This is going to be a rather lengthy email so I will break
it into six major parts:

1) Questioning Corel's distribution practices in January 2000
2) Questioning Corel's distribution practices in April 2000
3) Corel declairs the situation "corrected" in July 2000
4) Corel's excuses for distribution practices
5) What Corel doesn't seem to be willing to dispute
6) Plan of action to bring about a complette correction


Part 1:  January 2000

Corel Corp. has been trying to re-introduce themselves to
industry as a Linux vendor.  This process went into full
gear earily this year with the Corel LinuxOS Road Tour.  I
was discouraged to find that this "demostration" of what
they where doing seemed to also be a demostration of their
disregard for the General Public License (GPL).  By
providing their "Corel LinuxOS Open Circulation CD-ROM" they
where redistributing some 400 packages in Debian package
format which where covered by GPL.  But they only supplied
them in binary only format without anything which appeared
to be a written offer of source code.  They where able to
supply a t-shirt and a "nurf" style blue cube with a warning
label "not a toy" on it but no written offer of source code.

Well, among the packages appeared to be one that I
contributed too so I notified the Corel employees at the
event that the redistribution terms for my contribution
where not being met and as such redistribution of my
contributions should be halted or the terms complied
with.  A set of excuses (which I will get into later) was
provided but in the end I was notified that the situation
would be corrected soon.


Part 2:  April 2000

Approximently three months have passed since the "part
1" event where the promise of a correction coming soon was
provided.  Yet, at a computer trade show Corel was
continuing distributions of the same "Corel LinuxOS Open
Circulation CD-ROM."  Even more interesting was that Michael
Cowpland gave a keynote speech declairing that Corel is
"raising the open-source flag" while his staff was actively
violating one of the classic open source licenses just up
stairs in the same building.  Despite the fact that Corel
refused to do the simple act of providing a written offer
they still claimed to be "embrassing" open source.

And my contributions which I cleared stated where to be
removed or the situation corrected, they remained as part of
the 400 some packages which Corel would continue to violated
the redistribution terms of.  And again they provided a
standard set of excuses which followed up with a request
that they be contacted via email.Part 3:  July 2000

After emailing them did not seem to change Corel's attitude
towards continuing to violated the license (and hence
copyright) on my contributions until around July.  Finally,
a staff member of Corel declaired that *ALL* flavors of
Corel LinuxOS including the Open Circulation CD-ROM would
either come with source code or a written offer.  What the
"finalizing" email didn't address and Corel still has not
choosen not to address is that they still violated the
copyright when their some of their redistribution methods
failed to meet licensing requirements for approximently half
a year.


Part 4:  The excuses

Some popular excuses from Corel employees as to why it
shouldn't matter which aspects of the General Public License
they choose to ignore:

- Corel is an important contributor to open source.

- Corel will continue to be an important contributor to open
source.

- Why do you need Corel to provide a written offer anyways?

- This problem only effects the Open Circulation flavor of
Corel LinuxOS which is just a small number of the LinuxOS
distributed.

- Corel doesn't intend to hide the source code.

- Corel provides the source code on their web site.



Part 5:  My claims that Corel seems to leave undisputed

- None of Corel's excuses state something that would
consitute having provided a written offer.

- None of Corel's excuses state something that gives them
the right to wave or disregard sections of the GPL.  In
fact, their claim of being an important member of the open
source community should suggest that they would feel a need
to follow GPL compliance in a timely fashion even without
outside influce for them to do so.

- At no point has Corel attempted to claim that near half a
year is an acceptable turn around time for meeting with
licensing conditions on open source software.  They have
never attempted to explain why a sticker or other method of
providing a written offer couldn't have been added withen
one month's time or less.

- Corel has not claimed they have had a legal right to
distribute copyrighted works without meeting the licensing
conditions for redistribution, they have only claimed that
this failure on their part shouldn't matter bec

video/audio Streaming software

[bhaskar]

could u tell me the software name. with that we 
can stream audio and video ?
 
bhaskar

Re: Applixware 5 on Debian slink, potato or woody?

[Stefan Bellon]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   Pap Tibor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm using applixware 4 on a Debian Potato system. I have an old
> Pentium 100 with 64Mb RAM only. It looks fine, can read files coming
> from MS office, and very fast. It takes only few seconds to startup
> om my machine. So I don't know any good reason to upgrade it, or
> change it to another office suit.

The reason to upgrade is the fact that Applixware 4.4.1 is very buggy.
I had the chance to prepare a presentation with it last week and at
least the ApplixPresent part (or how it is called) is more than buggy!
I hope this is solved in Applixware 5.

I don't know of any other /good/ presentation software for GNU/Linux.
StarOffice is that slow, you can't use it, and GNOME hasn't one yet. I
know there's KPresent, but as I don't have any QT packages installed ...

Greetings,

Stefan.

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icewm won't open

[David C Bahler]

I've installed debian on a 486-33 Compact. After the base install I added
icewm.
When I try and run it it fails with the following error message:

_X11TransSocket INETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111

icewm: Can't open display: debian:0.0

Any ideas???

Dave Bahler

Re: restricting user in HOME using ProFTP

[Damon Muller]

Quoth Marko Cehaja, 
> I think proftp has configuration files in /etc with limits to users.

Try something like the following in /etc/proftpd.conf

# Put all except admin users in a chroot jail
DefaultRoot ~ !adm

Then when user ftp in, their home directory will be set as their root
directory (ie., /) and they will not be able to change out of their home
directory.

cheers,

damon

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debbugs -- won't process bugs/respond to queries

[kmself]

I realize there's a debbugs mailing list but it's seen a total of four
posts for this year, I thought debian-user might be more useful.

I'm maintining a debbugs installation inhereted from another admin.
Following a server move, after which it initially *did* work, the system
hasn't been processing bugs (handling new requests) or responding to
queries via the "request" address for the past several days.

Major subsystems on the box *do* work -- mail, browser, cron, etc.  Not
sure what else debbugs requires, the documentation is *very* sparse.

At this point I'd appreciate some assistance in tracking down and
identifying the issues with the system, probably focussing on stupid
mistakes (hopefully mine) and/or what I should be checking.

TIA.

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Re: icewm won't open

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 03:02:15AM -0400, David C Bahler wrote:
> I've installed debian on a 486-33 Compact. After the base install I added
> icewm.
> When I try and run it it fails with the following error message:
> 
> _X11TransSocket INETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> 
> icewm: Can't open display: debian:0.0

Are you already running X?

Have you configured X?

What is the output of:

   $ /usr/X11R6/bin/X 2>&1  | tee /tmp/X.out

(this will save your X session output to a file /tmp/X.out).

If X launches successfully (you'll see a herringbone pattern and large
"X" shaped mouse pointer), switch back to a virtual console and run an
xterm:

  $ xterm -display :0 &

...switching back to X again, try to run icewm, or another windowmanager
(twm or fvwm are nice, simple, and very stable for this purpose).

Report back with your findings.

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Re: Problems running fetchmail in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 05:11:42PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Fetchmail is not fetching my email properly when 
> invoked from a script in the /etc/ppp/ip-up.d
> 
> /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/fetchmail reads ...
> #!/bin/sh
> # run fetchmail
> test -r /etc/fetchmailrc && //
>   fetchmail --syslog --invisible --fetchmailrc /etc/fetchmailrc
> 
> Syslog contains the following ...
> 
> Aug 10 20:32:41 calliope fetchmail[9256]: fetchmail: POP3 connection
> to pop3.paradise.net.nz failed: temporary name server error. 
> Aug 10 20:32:41 calliope fetchmail[9256]: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
> 
> /etc/ppp/ip-up.d also contains 00ipmasq to rerun the firewalling rules
> over the new interface (ppp0) and 0dns-up which sets up
> /etc/resolv.conf for the provider being connected to.
> 
> The fetchmail script (above) runs fine from the command line.
> 
> For completeness /etc/fetchmailrc reads ... 
> 
> poll pop3.paradise.net.nz proto pop3 user [USERNAME] with password
> [PASSWORD] 
> 
> NB: [ ]'s replace actual values.

You're probably running fetchmail before your connection and/or DNS
configuration have been established.  Try putting a "sleep nn" argument
before running fetchmail, with a value of "nn" ranging from 30 to 300
seconds.  I'd think 30-60 should cover it.

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Re: A few misc. problems

[kmself]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 10:39:03PM -0700, cxpx wrote:
> 
> A couple of minor things:

...for large values of two.  I've whittled it down to what I can tackle.

> 1. I installed xfstt which works fine but I am not able to change the
> font size in netscape when using true type fonts.  Anybody ever have
> that problem?  Are there some better fonts I could use instead?

Not all fonts support resizing.  The fonts distributed with MS Windows
have traditionally been freely available for use elsewhere.  You may
want to try these.

I recently ran across a reference to a "webfonts" RPM (for RedHat) which
may deuglify your Netscape browsing experience.  Many, many sites use
broken HTML with  tags.  I'd be
interested in seeing how this installs under Debian or if there is a
comperable package.

> 3. How do I start postgres on startup?I'm confused with all the
> different /etc/rc*.d directories.  This is how I think it is supposed
> to go: 

> 'su -c postgres postmaster -i -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >logfile 2>&1
> &'
> 
> Do I put this in a '/etc/rc?.d/S??postgres' file?  What should go in
> place of the question marks?  Do I need a Kill file as well?

AFAIK, this should have been configured for you.  Look at
/etc/init.d/postgresql.

You can run this script (/etc/init.d/foo) directly.  The 
/etc/rc.d directories are part of what's called SysV init, and
manage starting and stopping system services.

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Location of "/etc/rc.d" directory Debian v RHAT

[Andrew McRobert]

hi all

I'm trying to install a Rhat RPM (HP's "OpenMail") on a Debian system here.
A bunch of files in "openmail-core-6.0.5-8.tar" need to go in the
"/etc/rc.d" directory under Rhat ---> Under the Debian file hierarchy,
there's the following directories in /etc: rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d, rc3.d, rc4.d
& rc5.d (ie. no "rc.d").

Is there any danger in creating the "/etc/rc.d" directory and storing the
relevant files from the RPM there?

thanks
Andrew


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kde or gnome?

[Daniel Gebhardt]

What's generally better, kde or gnome?  Or is there something else out there?

Thanks,

-Daniel

Re: Location of "/etc/rc.d" directory Debian v RHAT

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 03:46:21PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote:
> hi all
> 
> I'm trying to install a Rhat RPM (HP's "OpenMail") on a Debian system here.
> A bunch of files in "openmail-core-6.0.5-8.tar" need to go in the
> "/etc/rc.d" directory under Rhat ---> Under the Debian file hierarchy,
> there's the following directories in /etc: rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d, rc3.d, rc4.d
> & rc5.d (ie. no "rc.d").
> 
> Is there any danger in creating the "/etc/rc.d" directory and storing the
> relevant files from the RPM there?

/etc/rc.d is a RedHat-ism which is going away, IIUC, in the current/next
release of RedHat.

The location of the init directories rc.d and init.d do *not*
matter to the software package.  They *do* matter to the system which
finds and executes startup and shutdown scripts.

Install the scripts and links in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d under
Debian.

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Re: kde or gnome?

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:50:07AM -0700, Daniel Gebhardt wrote:
> What's generally better, kde or gnome?  Or is there something else out
> there?

Yes.

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Re: kde or gnome?

[John Griffiths]

LET THE FLAME WARS COMMENCE

hello all, i am new.. i don't normally comment much but i've seen this one 
before in other places!

as to window managers...

if you hae the QT and GTK libns in place then u can run apps from either.. even 
in other window managers...

i find icewm an easy place to operate but i like the aesthetic of WindowMaker.

there are many many to ty and if you are newish to this i would recommend 
trying a LOT before you settle for one...

technically i would say gnome 1.2 by virtue of being newer has a slight 
technical edge over KDE which is soon to be overtaken by the new KDE 2.0

also qt licensing remains an issue

At 12:50 AM 8/11/2000 -0700, Daniel Gebhardt wrote:
>What's generally better, kde or gnome?  Or is there something else out there?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Daniel
>
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RE: Location of "/etc/rc.d" directory Debian v RHAT

[Andrew McRobert]

many thanks mate. Excuse my ignorance, but what are the rcN.d directories
for? (I know about init.d, no so much about rc0.d etc.)

cheers
Andrew

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To: Debian-Users (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Location of "/etc/rc.d" directory Debian v RHAT


On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 03:46:21PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote:
> hi all
>
> I'm trying to install a Rhat RPM (HP's "OpenMail") on a Debian system
here.
> A bunch of files in "openmail-core-6.0.5-8.tar" need to go in the
> "/etc/rc.d" directory under Rhat ---> Under the Debian file hierarchy,
> there's the following directories in /etc: rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d, rc3.d,
rc4.d
> & rc5.d (ie. no "rc.d").
>
> Is there any danger in creating the "/etc/rc.d" directory and storing the
> relevant files from the RPM there?

/etc/rc.d is a RedHat-ism which is going away, IIUC, in the current/next
release of RedHat.

The location of the init directories rc.d and init.d do *not*
matter to the software package.  They *do* matter to the system which
finds and executes startup and shutdown scripts.

Install the scripts and links in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d under
Debian.

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a new beginning & internet install

[John Reinke]

Ok. I've had way too many problems after going from Corel to potato. I
think it would be best to just wipe my hard drive, and start from scratch.
(This will give me a chance to make a smaller /, since Corel requires a Gig
for the / partition, no matter how much it needs.)

I don't have a CD. What will it take to install over an internet
connection? I have a cable modem connection, which requires 1) the correct
network driver (eepro100), and 2) the dhcpcd daemon.

Since I want to format the hard drive, I can't put anything on it. I can
make a few floppy images, but how will I start dhcp needed for my internet
connection?

I need to get this done within the next day or two, so I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks,
John

Re: Location of "/etc/rc.d" directory Debian v RHAT

[kmself]

less /etc/init.d/README

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 04:04:47PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote:
> many thanks mate. Excuse my ignorance, but what are the rcN.d directories
> for? (I know about init.d, no so much about rc0.d etc.)
> 
> cheers
> Andrew
> 
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> IT Liaison Officer, School of Law
> MURDOCH UNIVERSITY
> Perth, Western Australia
> Ph: [+61 8 9360 6479]
> Fax: [+61 8 9310 6671]
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: kmself@ix.netcom.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:51 PM
> To: Debian-Users (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Location of "/etc/rc.d" directory Debian v RHAT
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 03:46:21PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote:
> > hi all
> >
> > I'm trying to install a Rhat RPM (HP's "OpenMail") on a Debian system
> here.
> > A bunch of files in "openmail-core-6.0.5-8.tar" need to go in the
> > "/etc/rc.d" directory under Rhat ---> Under the Debian file hierarchy,
> > there's the following directories in /etc: rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d, rc3.d,
> rc4.d
> > & rc5.d (ie. no "rc.d").
> >
> > Is there any danger in creating the "/etc/rc.d" directory and storing the
> > relevant files from the RPM there?
> 
> /etc/rc.d is a RedHat-ism which is going away, IIUC, in the current/next
> release of RedHat.
> 
> The location of the init directories rc.d and init.d do *not*
> matter to the software package.  They *do* matter to the system which
> finds and executes startup and shutdown scripts.
> 
> Install the scripts and links in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d under
> Debian.
> 
> --
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RE: Location of "/etc/rc.d" directory Debian v RHAT

[Andrew McRobert]

thank you sir :)

Andrew

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-Original Message-
From: kmself@ix.netcom.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 4:11 PM
To: 'Debian-Users (E-mail)'
Subject: Re: Location of "/etc/rc.d" directory Debian v RHAT


less /etc/init.d/README

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 04:04:47PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote:
> many thanks mate. Excuse my ignorance, but what are the rcN.d directories
> for? (I know about init.d, no so much about rc0.d etc.)
>
> cheers
> Andrew
>
> -
> Andrew McRobert LLB B.Sc(Comp. Sci)
> IT Liaison Officer, School of Law
> MURDOCH UNIVERSITY
> Perth, Western Australia
> Ph: [+61 8 9360 6479]
> Fax: [+61 8 9310 6671]
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation"
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kmself@ix.netcom.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:51 PM
> To: Debian-Users (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Location of "/etc/rc.d" directory Debian v RHAT
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 03:46:21PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote:
> > hi all
> >
> > I'm trying to install a Rhat RPM (HP's "OpenMail") on a Debian system
> here.
> > A bunch of files in "openmail-core-6.0.5-8.tar" need to go in the
> > "/etc/rc.d" directory under Rhat ---> Under the Debian file hierarchy,
> > there's the following directories in /etc: rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d, rc3.d,
> rc4.d
> > & rc5.d (ie. no "rc.d").
> >
> > Is there any danger in creating the "/etc/rc.d" directory and storing
the
> > relevant files from the RPM there?
>
> /etc/rc.d is a RedHat-ism which is going away, IIUC, in the current/next
> release of RedHat.
>
> The location of the init directories rc.d and init.d do *not*
> matter to the software package.  They *do* matter to the system which
> finds and executes startup and shutdown scripts.
>
> Install the scripts and links in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d under
> Debian.
>
> --
> Karsten M. Self  http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
>  Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org
>   What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?   Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
>http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
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>
>
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Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[Marko Cehaja]

Dear

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 06:12:35AM +, Mr Smith wrote:
> format which where covered by GPL.  But they only supplied
> them in binary only format without anything which appeared
> to be a written offer of source code.  They where able to
> supply a t-shirt and a "nurf" style blue cube with a warning
> label "not a toy" on it but no written offer of source code.

Damn, you are right. So many people contributed to make the
free software, and some big company like that comes over,
and doesn't follow the rules nor take attention on the licence.

Companies or individuals *can't* distribute binaries without
sources if it is required by the licence, and they have to
comply with every single point written there. If you need some
help just tell me. In case of trouble I could donate something.

Those "excuses" are not acceptable. Those justifing is not
acceptable. I did follow some of happenings which Corel made
on the beginning of the year, and I cannot agree with that.

If that would be the only case, well OK, maybe one could say,
they distribute it now according to policies, and that
is now fine. WELL IT IS NOT DAMN FINE!!!

What some company like Corel would do, if I take their Corel
WhateverPaint Software of 100 MB, and distribute it around or
sell it without paying royalties? They would jump and do
whatever is needed to stop it. I am speaking if that would
happen in the same volume as Corel does it with GNU/Linux.
They would put such a pressure on third company, that 
nobody else would ever dare to do the same. Maybe exgagerated,
but it does happen and I know many cases in Germany about that.

Now, Corel is not the only company which violates the GPL.
Here in Germany, the biggest national telecommunication
company called Deutsche Telekom, started selling and distributing,
all over the place their phone-book software on CD, which
includes GTK and Glibc libraries on it, and some BSD software.

They didn't supply Glibc, they didn't inform people about
where to get sources of Gtk or Glibc, they didn't make object
files, they didn't dinamically link it. They even have put
their own licence on it, claiming that nobody else can distribute
the whole package (including their own software), and that no
changes nor reverse engeeniering is allowed. They didn't show
the copyrights, only their own copyrights.
I called the programmer,
and he sent me some kind of dinamically linked software, which 
didn't work. I told him to make it according to the licence,
and he didn't do anything - simply no answer after a while.

That programming company and Deutsche Telekom Medien AG, tried
to convince me how they do follow the GPL if they send me, one
person, that dinamically linked software. TO HELL They are
selling thousands of those CD-ROMs in every city of Germany, in
many catalogs, everywhere. They use Gtk even in Windows versions
(there is version for Windows) and they don't provide the licence.

I know that is happening since September/November 1999, and I have
informed FSF about that, but don't know what really happened.

I did see the same CD in stores before couple of days, it is still
on the display, and still selling it. That is f. not alright.

If you consider steps against Corel just do it.

If somebody wants a picture of this software from Deutsche Telekom
Medien AG, I can send it. I can scan the licence as well and 
every average Linux user could recognize, that software is made 
while using the GTK - looks like all Gnome programs. But no licence
on the CD, etc.

Per GPL - their licence is automatically terminated. Or I can simply
take that proprietary software and do with it whatever the GPL allows.

I hate that. One is talking to "big" company, and they don't respond
or react logically. There fore if you have or want to do something 
against, do it.

Those issues do have something with every Linux user, if they want to
stay Linux users.


Sincerely,
Marko Cehaja

Re: /etc/environment

[Jacques Foury]

> On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 03:19:13PM +0200, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote:
> > 
> > The only place I found LANG=C appeared to be /etc/environment, and
> > changing this to LANG='' appears to have solved the problem.
> > 
> > Why is LANG set to C from /etc/environment; which package puts this in?
> > And what does LANG=C mean to programs in general?


> However, I don't know what "C" means. 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Marko Cehaja

As far as I know, 'C' is for generic english, just as in the C language...
Pleased to help... ;-)
-- 
Jacques Foury

Re: debbugs -- won't process bugs/respond to queries

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:23:51AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> I realize there's a debbugs mailing list but it's seen a total of four
> posts for this year, I thought debian-user might be more useful.
> 
> I'm maintining a debbugs installation inhereted from another admin.
> Following a server move, after which it initially *did* work, the system
> hasn't been processing bugs (handling new requests) or responding to
> queries via the "request" address for the past several days.
> 
> Major subsystems on the box *do* work -- mail, browser, cron, etc.  Not
> sure what else debbugs requires, the documentation is *very* sparse.
> 
> At this point I'd appreciate some assistance in tracking down and
> identifying the issues with the system, probably focussing on stupid
> mistakes (hopefully mine) and/or what I should be checking.

More data.

First, in what may or may not be a related problem, running "apt-get
update" on the same system results in:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:msglog]$ apt-get update
0% [Connecting to localhost] [Connecting to localhost]

...which is somewhat less than optimal.  Not sure why this is,
/etc/apt/sources is:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US frozen non-US/main 
non-US/contrib non-US/non-free



under /var/spool/exim/msglog, I find many files which contain contents
similar to:

2000-08-11 01:08:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: debbugs_pipe
transport failed: Child process of debbugs_pipe transport returned
100 from command: /usr/lib/debbugs/receive
*** Frozen (delivery error message)

Running /usr/lib/debbugs/receive by hand as user debbugs, I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/www/sites/debbugs$ 
/usr/lib/debbugs/receive 
Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/debbugs/receive line 27.
Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/debbugs/receive line 30.
Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/debbugs/receive line 54.
Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/debbugs/receive line 60.
Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/debbugs/receive line 61.
Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/debbugs/receive line 66.

 Unknown bug service address @bugs.opensales.org.
 Recognised addresses are:

 General:   Read bug# in Subject:bug# is :

  requestsubmit  bug   -submit
  controlmaintonly-maintonly
  owner  quiet-quiet
  postmaster forwarded-forwarded
 done  close  
-done  -close
 submitter
-submitter

 (all @bugs.opensales.org.)

 For instructions via the WWW see:
   http://bugs.opensales.org/
   http://bugs.opensales.org/Reporting.html
   http://bugs.opensales.org/Developer.html
   http://bugs.opensales.org/Access.html
 Instructions are available from ftp.debian.org 
and at all Debian mirror sites, in the files:
   debian/doc/bug-reporting.txt
   debian/doc/bug-log-access.txt
   debian/doc/bug-maint-info.txt
 For details of how to access bug report logs by email:
   send [EMAIL PROTECTED]' the word `help'


...which makes me suspect I'm not invoking the script properly or am failing to 
initialize something.  I'm not sure where /usr/lib/debbugs/receive is supposed 
to be run by (which was why I wanted to install glimpse which is why I'm noting 
apt-get fails).

Thoughts, anyone?

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ssh2 by users

[Jaume Teixi]

how to restrict which users can access throught ssh2 ?

thanks,
jaume.

Re: debbugs -- won't process bugs/respond to queries

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:19:39AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:23:51AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > I realize there's a debbugs mailing list but it's seen a total of four
> > posts for this year, I thought debian-user might be more useful.
> > 
> > I'm maintining a debbugs installation inhereted from another admin.
> > Following a server move, after which it initially *did* work, the system
> > hasn't been processing bugs (handling new requests) or responding to
> > queries via the "request" address for the past several days.
> > 
> > Major subsystems on the box *do* work -- mail, browser, cron, etc.  Not
> > sure what else debbugs requires, the documentation is *very* sparse.
> > 
> > At this point I'd appreciate some assistance in tracking down and
> > identifying the issues with the system, probably focussing on stupid
> > mistakes (hopefully mine) and/or what I should be checking.
> 
> More data.

...repeated...

> under /var/spool/exim/msglog, I find many files which contain contents
> similar to:
> 
> 2000-08-11 01:08:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: debbugs_pipe
>   transport failed: Child process of debbugs_pipe transport returned
>   100 from command: /usr/lib/debbugs/receive
>   *** Frozen (delivery error message)
> 
> Running /usr/lib/debbugs/receive by hand as user debbugs, I get:

Ok, I've found that "receive" is being run out of /etc/exim.conf.


...hmmm...

Strangeness.  It appears that debbugs may be up and running again.  Not
quite sure what turned the trick, possibly a mailserver restart.

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docbook-stylesheet-doc problems

[Jens Luedicke]

hi there ...

Setting up docbook-stylesheet-doc (1.56-1):
cannot open dhelp file '/usr/doc/docbook-stylesheets-doc/.dhelp': at
/usr/sbin/install-docs line 556
..
..
..
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of task-sgml
..
..
..

Re: debbugs -- won't process bugs/respond to queries

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:50:15AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:19:39AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:23:51AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> > > I'm maintining a debbugs installation inhereted from another admin.
> > > Following a server move, after which it initially *did* work, the system
> > > hasn't been processing bugs (handling new requests) or responding to
> > > queries via the "request" address for the past several days.

I'm now getting the following response to an email query:

> index-summary by-package
Error getting summary index sorted by package/title (code 256 ):
Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the
cursor.

...well, yes, it's a streaming pipe

Thanks, and apologies for the somewhat one-sided conversation here.

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Re: kde or gnome?

[Helgi Örn]

Hi!

Of course it depends on who you ask.:-)
Generally I like KDE because it is locical in so many ways, but I don't
like how big it is and therefore takes a lot of resources, and it's not
'free'. 
Gnome is faster (for me) but I got problems with using different
keyboard layouts in Gnome, but it's free.
I really love fvwm2 and icewm but there I got this problem with differet
keyboard layouts; I don't know how to configure use that in them.

Helgi Örn

Daniel Gebhardt wrote:
> 
> What's generally better, kde or gnome?  Or is there something else out there?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Daniel
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Re: Kernel patching

[dyer]

Ronald Castillo wrote:

> Greetings...
>
> When I apply a patch to my kernel (from 2.2.12 to 2.2.13), do I need to do
> any other step after I do the "gzip -cd patchxx.gz | patch -p0"?
>
> Thanks..
>
>

The sources are now patched. (assuming you were in the /usr/src directory when 
you
unzipped and patched.) I assume you are using the docs in 
/usr/src/linux/README.  You
now need to rebuild the kernel.

hth

dyer

Re: ssh2 by users

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 10:36:01AM +, Jaume Teixi wrote:
> how to restrict which users can access throught ssh2 ?

man ssh | grep -i users

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[off topic] Microsoft advertises for Linux team product manger

[Andrew McRobert]

Microsoft advertises for Linux team product manger

Computer giant Microsoft has advertised for a product manger to drive its
corporate Linux strategy.
http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/2811/A63247-2000Aug11.html

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Re: Mouse stopped working in X

[Morten Liebach]

On 10, aug, 2000 at 09:42:25 -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 11:29:41PM -0500, John Reinke wrote:
> > I've converted my Corel distribution to Debian potato. Although I had a few
> > problems, most things seem to be fine, except my mouse now longer works in
> > X. It doesn't work with any of the X servers, including within XF86Setup.
> > It used to work before, and settings from before don't work.
> > 
> > Here's the really strange part (which may be related): When I'm in the
> > console, the mouse DOES work! I've never had that before, but I can move it
> > around and copy and paste, just like I should when I'm in X.
> 
> There are two different mouse servers, one in X and one in gpm
> (console). Anyway, you've discovered the "gpm interferes with my mouse in
> X problem".  You'll probably want to have gpm "repeat" to /dev/gpmdata
> which you can configure X to use.  For instance, my /etc/gpm.conf reads:
> 
> device=/dev/psaux
> responsiveness=10
> type=ps2
> append="-l \"a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/300-326330-366370-377\" -r 20"
> 
To be more verbose on the subject:

In XF86Setup tell X to read mouse data from /dev/gpmdata instead
of /dev/.

I had the same problem once last winter when I started using Debian
(Potato), and back then I wouldn't have known how to follow the above,
absolutely correct, advice from Eric [1].

BTW, I don't have the
``appends="-l \"a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/300-326330-366370-377\" -r 20"'' line in
my /etc/gpm.conf, I think it disappeared back when I reinstalled a month
ago or so ... so it might be insignificant.

Hope this clarifies things ...

HAND
Morten

[1]: Oh well, I'm probably just stupid! ;-)

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dselect after install

[Pablo S. Torralba]

I'm not sure if this is normal, or it is just something I'm doing
wrong, but I need to rerun dselect after Potato installation in order
to get every selected package correctly installed.

I remember having read something about it, and someone who needed to
rerun dselect four times to get everything properly installed. I
think, at least during the installation process, this problem should
be warned the same way it is done with LILO and its related problems.

I'm thinking on new users here.

Thanks

Pablo S. Torralba

Re: kde or gnome?

[Moritz Schulte]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:19:43AM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote:

> Gnome is faster (for me) but I got problems with using different
> keyboard layouts in Gnome, but it's free.
> I really love fvwm2 and icewm but there I got this problem with differet
> keyboard layouts; I don't know how to configure use that in them.

hmm. if you configure your keyboard layout correctly in _X_, it should
be right in every window manager/desktop environment, not?

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Re: PC133 RAM doesn't work with Slink!?!

[Gary Hennigan]

"Karl Matheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm still using 2.1 (If 2.2 does come out like it is expected to
> (today), I will buy it), and I'm trying to install it on my new
> computer.  I've switched out various parts of my machine
> (Hard-drive, CD-ROM, etc), Because it gives me weird memory
> errors/addresses when I try to install.  I finally switched my 64 MB
> PC133 RAM for my dad's PC100, and now I can install.  Is there a way
> to get this ram working in slink, and more importantly, will it work
> in potato?

Sounds to me like you have a bad PC133 RAM module. The OS, be it Win,
Linux, BeOS, whatever, doesn't care about what speed your memory
is. That's strictly a hardware issue. So, like I said, either the RAM
module is bad or your motherboard and your PC133 stick have some
compatibility issue.

Gary

Re: restricting user in HOME using ProFTP

[John Pearson]

On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 06:40:51AM -0700, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira 
wrote
>   Hi all!
> 
>   I'm trying to restrict my FTP users in own directories using ProFTP.
> 
>   I used the configuration examples found in ProFTP's page but something
>   is wrong.
> 

AFAICT, all you need to do is add

DefaultRoot ~

somehwere near the top of /etc/proftpd.conf
and run
# /etc/init.d/proftpd reload

They should then be locked into their home directories;
it seems to work for me.


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Re: a new beginning & internet install

[Dale Morris]

If you copy the disk images for the frozen/potato distribution, you will
end up with kernel 2.2.17 and you can select dhcp in initial
configuration. I just did this, you need the rescue, root, and 3 driver
disks for a total of 5 disks. Worked great for me. 
good luck

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 03:04:48AM -0500 55, John Reinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Ok. I've had way too many problems after going from Corel to potato. I
> think it would be best to just wipe my hard drive, and start from scratch.
> (This will give me a chance to make a smaller /, since Corel requires a Gig
> for the / partition, no matter how much it needs.)
> 
> I don't have a CD. What will it take to install over an internet
> connection? I have a cable modem connection, which requires 1) the correct
> network driver (eepro100), and 2) the dhcpcd daemon.
> 
> Since I want to format the hard drive, I can't put anything on it. I can
> make a few floppy images, but how will I start dhcp needed for my internet
> connection?
> 
> I need to get this done within the next day or two, so I'm open to 
> suggestions.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 
> 
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Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[John Pearson]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 06:12:35AM +, Mr Smith wrote
> Has former copies of the Corel LinuxOS Open Circulation
> CD-ROM violated the General Public License?
> 
> This seems like a straight forward question but one that
> Corel has beat around the bush in answering.
> 
> This is going to be a rather lengthy email so I will break
> it into six major parts:
> 
> 1) Questioning Corel's distribution practices in January 2000
> 2) Questioning Corel's distribution practices in April 2000
> 3) Corel declairs the situation "corrected" in July 2000
> 4) Corel's excuses for distribution practices
> 5) What Corel doesn't seem to be willing to dispute
> 6) Plan of action to bring about a complette correction
> 
>[snip]

One thing you didn't discuss in your post was what remedy, if
any, you proposed to Corel before you decided legal action was
appropriate, and how they responded.

As to their failing to apologize it may be graceless and
unflattering, but provided that they rectified their original
error it's hardly actionable.


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Problems with XF86Config

[jamesdoyle_new . uk]

James Doyle MA Maîtr.en Hist. 
147 South Street,  Armadale,
BATHGATE EH48 3JT
West Lothian, Scotland. 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] uk 
Tel .Mobile: (++44) 07944 921915Fax (inwards) (+44) 0 845 281 2648 
Hello,
"OS can't find an XYF86Config file" 

Debian 2.1


I want to install Linux on two HDs, one is an old 850 MB Conner, from which
all traces of Gates & Co.have been banished and this will be pure Linux, and
a new 6.5 GB HD which is dual-boot Win95 and Linux. I downloaded Star Office
in both Win95 and Linux forms, and have been using it under Win 95 for
several months and I never want to have MS Office on my box again!

Gates does not like Star Office, and the PC goes bananas regularly, but Star
is crash-proof and always saves correctly, and nothing gets lost.

I have tried SuSe and Red Hat ( Mandrake), but I much prefer the Debian
basic installation. Dselect on the Conner is OK. 

The problem: Debian can't find an XF86 config file, the result is that
X-Windows cannot start, although Dselect has installed everything else.
Unlike Suse "YAST"
Debian never asked me anything about my monitor, and never mentioned setting
up an XF86 config file.

Please say how I can create the missing file, how I get it into the 
correct
directory and let startx work?

Monitor: Triumph-Adler monchrome 14"
Video Bandwith  more than 30 Mhz analog
(80x 25)  
line frequency 31467 Hz
frame frequency 60-70 Hz
Video card - Venus VGA
Tests
Actual mode (3h Text) 80 x 25
V   H
70.00KHz31.43Khz
mode 12h (graphic 640 x 480)
64.08Khz31.54 Khz

I hope you can help!


As I have no Internet connection here at home, I have to prepare this
message at home under Star Office and then cart this on diskette to the
public library and load it under *** MS-Office to send it under Netscape

Sincerely,
James Doyle







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Re: dselect after install

[Moritz Schulte]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:46:38AM +0200, Pablo S. Torralba wrote:

> I'm not sure if this is normal, or it is just something I'm doing
> wrong, but I need to rerun dselect after Potato installation in order
> to get every selected package correctly installed.

hmm. that sounds like something, i have seen here, too...

i have installed potato from this CD from Debian at Linuxtag.
installations goes fine and has finished, the system is running. then,
i run dselect, but i had not selected anything. then, it wanted to
install ~52 packages... for example packages like: autoconf, automake,
bison, several doc-*, etc...

could somebody explain me this behaviour?

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Re: mailcap/slrn question

[Christopher Mosley]

On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Christopher Mosley wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Dale Morris wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have a working mailcap file that will display images from
> > newsgroups in slrn? I can get mutt to display images using ee, but I've
> > never been able to get slrn to display an image in a binary newsgroup. I
> > always have to use Netscape News for binaries and slrn for regular text
> > messages. I'd like to have slrn do everything.
> > -- 
> 
> No, not working for your particular need.
> 
> I once used .mailcap for displaying images files localy from  a remote tin. 
> I could remember how to do it again, but I remember it being very ungainly.
> I replaced that with a c program. Finally I used a script filter. You use
> the write to stdin and filter through key, "|" in tin. Must be something
> similar in slrn. Uudeview is a smart decoder for both mime 7 bit encoding
> (forgot its name right now)  and uuencoded files - very
> useful for viewing those fine arts newsgroups.  The apc  vt320
> escape sequence and kermit are not needed . They would both just
> be a  viewing command for you  - display probably. At one time I used an
> echo and read so you could choose the viewer on the fly, mtvp fo mpegs
> for instance. This was a pain because I got a raw terminal and had to
> change it and change it back. But what you are trying to do should be very
> accomplishable.

I just checked out slrn and it does indeed use "|" for the pipe command.
The below script will work when adjusted for directories, and
with the kermit and apc_echo removed and a display line added.
 

John Davis anwered the same question with a slang script, you
can it find by searching deja news. Since a scripting language
is imbedded in slrn there seems no reason not to use it for this
It is a stacked based kind of C looking language.
   


The big problem with trying to use mailcap (metamail) is what do you for
bases64 files and uuencoded files without mime headers.  
 
 
> 
> #!/usr/bin/sh
> cat > $HOME/News/See/Tmp
> uudeview -i -d  -p $HOME/News/See $HOME/News/See/Tmp
> rm $HOME/News/See/Tmp 
> Image=`ls $HOME/News/See/`
> kermit -s $HOME/News/See/$Image
> apc_echo  "run display $Image, output \13"
> rm $HOME/News/See/*
> #not done
> 
> 
> The problem is the the uudecoding , for instance in lynx 
> without the decoding it becomes much easier and practical to use metamail. 
> 
> .mailcap
> image/*;  putz  %s ;needsterminal 
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> kermit -s $*
> PICTURE=`basename $*` 
> apc_echo "run display $PICTURE"
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> > 
> > "Make voyages, attempt them, there's nothing else."
> >  --Tennessee Williams
> > 
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Re: Mouse stopped working in X

[Armin Wegner]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 11:29:41PM -0500, John Reinke wrote:
> I've converted my Corel distribution to Debian potato. Although I had a few
> problems, most things seem to be fine, except my mouse now longer works in
> X. It doesn't work with any of the X servers, including within XF86Setup.
> It used to work before, and settings from before don't work.
> 
> Here's the really strange part (which may be related): When I'm in the
> console, the mouse DOES work! I've never had that before, but I can move it
> around and copy and paste, just like I should when I'm in X.
> 
> John

In /etc/gpm.conf comment out the line containing =3sm or =sm3.
I do not remember the parameter. Take a look and you will see which line
I mean.

Re: Problems with XF86Config

[John Pearson]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 04:07:09AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> 
> I want to install Linux on two HDs, one is an old 850 MB Conner, from which
> all traces of Gates & Co.have been banished and this will be pure Linux, and
> a new 6.5 GB HD which is dual-boot Win95 and Linux. I downloaded Star Office
> in both Win95 and Linux forms, and have been using it under Win 95 for
> several months and I never want to have MS Office on my box again!
> 
> Gates does not like Star Office, and the PC goes bananas regularly, but Star
> is crash-proof and always saves correctly, and nothing gets lost.
> 
> I have tried SuSe and Red Hat ( Mandrake), but I much prefer the Debian
> basic installation. Dselect on the Conner is OK. 
> 
> The problem: Debian can't find an XF86 config file, the result is that
> X-Windows cannot start, although Dselect has installed everything else.
> Unlike Suse "YAST"
> Debian never asked me anything about my monitor, and never mentioned setting
> up an XF86 config file.
> 
>   Please say how I can create the missing file, how I get it into the 
> correct
> directory and let startx work?
> 

Debian doesn't configure X for you, but it does provide two tools that walk
you through it: XF86Setup (in the "xf86setup" package) and xf86config (in
the "xserver-common" package).  XF86Setup uses 16 color VGA mode, so that's
probably not an option for your system.

Run the command
# apt-get install xserver-mono xfonts-scalable xfonts-75dpi

to install an appropriate Xserver and some fonts, and run 
# xf86config

and tell it about your hardware.  Be sure to choose the 
mono Xserver when it asks you which one to use (it'll probably
recommend XServer-SVGA, but that doesn't do mono).

You'll probably also want to run a command like
# apt-get install icewm wmaker xterm 

to install some other window managers and xterm, if you haven't 
already done so.


> Monitor: Triumph-Adler monchrome 14"
> Video Bandwith  more than 30 Mhz analog
> (80x 25)  
> line frequency 31467 Hz
> frame frequency 60-70 Hz
> Video card - Venus VGA
> Tests
> Actual mode (3h Text) 80 x 25
>   V   H
>   70.00KHz31.43Khz
> mode 12h (graphic 640 x 480)
>   64.08Khz31.54 Khz
> 
> I hope you can help!
> 
> 
> As I have no Internet connection here at home, I have to prepare this
> message at home under Star Office and then cart this on diskette to the
> public library and load it under *** MS-Office to send it under Netscape
> 

This all supposes that you have a Debian CD or some other medium
that you can use as a source of Debian packages, and that you have
configured apt to use it.  If you haven't, then this will involve
a *lot* of to-ing and fro-ing with *many* floppy disks.



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Tin or SLRN

[Christopher Mosley]

Just used slrn for a short time and was impressed.. I'd like opinions on
slrn especially from people who have used tin. Is there any great advantage
in using tin?

   
Thanks

Re: /etc/environment

[Patrick Dahiroc]

which man page do i need to learn more about the LANG and LC_LANG
variables?  is there a comperhensive list of env variables?


On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 10:20:31AM +0200, Jacques Foury wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 03:19:13PM +0200, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote:
> > > 
> > > The only place I found LANG=C appeared to be /etc/environment, and
> > > changing this to LANG='' appears to have solved the problem.
> > > 
> > > Why is LANG set to C from /etc/environment; which package puts this in?
> > > And what does LANG=C mean to programs in general?
> 
> 
> > However, I don't know what "C" means. 
> > 
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Marko Cehaja
> 
> As far as I know, 'C' is for generic english, just as in the C language...
> Pleased to help... ;-)
> -- 
> Jacques Foury
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Tin or SLRN

[Christopher Mosley]

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Christopher Mosley wrote:

> 
> Just used slrn for a short time and was impressed.. I'd like opinions on
> slrn especially from people who have used tin. Is there any great advantage
> in using tin?

 Thanks
I meant is there any great advantage in switching to slrn 

  

Re: Debian ISO

[Antonio Rodriguez]

I don´t think any of these links work

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 23:32:59 +0200
> Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >There is also a Hungarian mirror (which I don't know the URL of - >think
> >it's ftp.hu.debian.org or so) which carries ISOs. Place a search on
> >google if no luck.
>
> http://ftp.fsn.hu/ftp/pub/CDROM-Images/debian/current/i386/
> or
> {HYPERLINK "ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/"}ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/
>
> Enjoy
>
> S.L.
>
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Re: A few misc. problems

[Spinfire Magenta]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 10:39:03PM -0700, cxpx wrote:

> 1. I installed xfstt which works fine but I am not able to change
> the font size in netscape when using true type fonts.  Anybody ever
> have that problem?  Are there some better fonts I could use instead?

X.themes.org, i beleive, has a good selection of TrueType fonts that
you can download.


> Do I put this in a '/etc/rc?.d/S??postgres' file?  What should go in
> place of the question marks?  Do I need a Kill file as well?

The numbers deal with what order the services are started in; higher
numbers mean the service will be started after lower numbers.


Dan

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FW: Problems with XF86Config

[Helgi Örn]

-Original Message-
From: Helgi Örn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Problems with XF86Config


Hi James!

That's an effort you go through to be able to send an e-mail!

What you will have to do is get yourself acquainted with a program calles
'xf86config', with it's help you make the file that's missing.
When you boot up and after logging in as root you write (note: case
sensitive):

xf86config

and the program will start, just take it easy through the process, you can
always start from the beginning again if it doesn't work. Observe that in
xf86config you can do the 'basic' configuration which you can change later
on. When finished with xf86config you can (still as root) try to start
another program called XF86Setup like this:

XF86Setup

(case sensitive)If it opens up then you got at least a vga server running.
Answer 'yes' to the question if you want to use the xf86configuration. Note
that XF86Setup can easily crash on you if for example it doesn't like the
mouse configuration or something, so i advice you to only use the keyboard
untill you are positive that the mouse works right. It's easy to get around
with the Tab, Space and arrow keys.
Last thing you do in XF86Setup is to start the x-server of your choice in
the default mode you want.

Good luck!
Helgi Örn

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:07 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Problems with XF86Config
>
>
>
> James Doyle MA Maîtr.en Hist.
> 147 South Street,  Armadale,
> BATHGATE EH48 3JT
> West Lothian, Scotland.
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] uk
> Tel .Mobile: (++44) 07944 921915Fax (inwards) (+44) 0 845 281 2648
> Hello,
>   "OS can't find an XYF86Config file"
>
>   Debian 2.1
>
>
> I want to install Linux on two HDs, one is an old 850 MB Conner,
> from which
> all traces of Gates & Co.have been banished and this will be pure
> Linux, and
> a new 6.5 GB HD which is dual-boot Win95 and Linux. I downloaded
> Star Office
> in both Win95 and Linux forms, and have been using it under Win 95 for
> several months and I never want to have MS Office on my box again!
>
> Gates does not like Star Office, and the PC goes bananas
> regularly, but Star
> is crash-proof and always saves correctly, and nothing gets lost.
>
> I have tried SuSe and Red Hat ( Mandrake), but I much prefer the Debian
> basic installation. Dselect on the Conner is OK.
>
> The problem: Debian can't find an XF86 config file, the result is that
> X-Windows cannot start, although Dselect has installed everything else.
> Unlike Suse "YAST"
> Debian never asked me anything about my monitor, and never
> mentioned setting
> up an XF86 config file.
>
>   Please say how I can create the missing file, how I get it
> into the correct
> directory and let startx work?
>
> Monitor: Triumph-Adler monchrome 14"
> Video Bandwith  more than 30 Mhz analog
> (80x 25)
> line frequency 31467 Hz
> frame frequency 60-70 Hz
> Video card - Venus VGA
> Tests
> Actual mode (3h Text) 80 x 25
>   V   H
>   70.00KHz31.43Khz
> mode 12h (graphic 640 x 480)
>   64.08Khz31.54 Khz
>
> I hope you can help!
>
>
> As I have no Internet connection here at home, I have to prepare this
> message at home under Star Office and then cart this on diskette to the
> public library and load it under *** MS-Office to send it under Netscape
>
> Sincerely,
> James Doyle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[John Hasler]

I tried to email Mr. Smith but the message bounced.

He should contact Richard Stallman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) about this.  The FSF
retains attorneys for the purpose of enforcing the GPL.
-- 
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Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[Spinfire Magenta]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 08:01:22AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:

> He should contact Richard Stallman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) about this.  The
> FSF retains attorneys for the purpose of enforcing the GPL.

Makes me wonder exactly how much power of enforcement the FSF has.  No
one has ever tested the GPL in court, and its difficult to figure what
the possible outcome of an actual court case would be.

Dan

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RE: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[Brooks R. Robinson]

Greetings,
As an avid fan on Linux, and especially Debian, I would like to see this
pursued with vigor.  A lot of people view Linux as a fad (a hoola-hoop or
frisbee kind of thing).  I think that it would go a long way towards getting
Linux to be taken seriously by the Windows drones if this were to get
national press.  I would suggest that someone contact major media (the prime
time "news" shows at least).


I have not had the opportunity to donate any code to any Linux
distribution, but I expect to in the future.  As a programmer (however good
or bad I may be), I expect that if I *_donate_* my software to the world and
I merely ask that someone includes my notes and the code from my work that
this tiny request be met if someone may benefit from my donation.


Power to the People!

> -Original Message-
> From: Spinfire Magenta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 8:07 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 08:01:22AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
>
> > He should contact Richard Stallman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) about this.  The
> > FSF retains attorneys for the purpose of enforcing the GPL.
>
> Makes me wonder exactly how much power of enforcement the FSF has.  No
> one has ever tested the GPL in court, and its difficult to figure what
> the possible outcome of an actual court case would be.
>
> Dan
>
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Has Anyone got Adabas D to work with StarOffice 5.2??

[John Foster]

There are no stand alone docs for Adabas D with StarOffice 5.2 I have
been unable after several of hours to get it to run successfully. The
install seems to be OK and I have set up all of the environment
variables as the instructions say since the SO install did not do that
correctly. The server is NOT running and It will not start when queried
by SO. Any pointers?? Thanks!
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Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Things neeed to be tried 

Spinfire Magenta wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 08:01:22AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
>
> > He should contact Richard Stallman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) about this.  The
> > FSF retains attorneys for the purpose of enforcing the GPL.
>
> Makes me wonder exactly how much power of enforcement the FSF has.  No
> one has ever tested the GPL in court, and its difficult to figure what
> the possible outcome of an actual court case would be.
>
> Dan
>
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HP OpenMail

[Michael Meskes]

Is there anyone out there running this on a Debian machine? I'd like to try
it, but the download simply gives me a damaged rpm. 

Michael

P.S.: Please CC me on replies.
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FTE source

[somogyi lóránd]

Hi, 
does anybudy knows, where can I find the source of FTE?

Lori.

IO permission problem

[Attila Csosz]

I've downloaded and compiled the latest stable quakeforge project.
I've a problem: I can run qw-client-svga only as root.

I've the following permissions:

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 AUG 10 15:19 /dev/mouse -> gpmdata
prw-r--r--1 root root0 AUG 11 13:05 /dev/gpmdata
-rwsr-sr-x1 attila   staff  872936 AUG 11 12:57 
/usr/local/bin/qw-client-svga


Here is the 'strace' output of running 'qw-client-svga'

read(6, "# Configuration file for svgalib"..., 16082) = 16082
close(6)= 0
open("/home/attila/.svgalibrc", O_RDONLY) = 6
fstat(6, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=39, ...}) = 0
read(6, "mouse MouseSystems\nmdev /dev/mou"..., 39) = 39
close(6)= 0
ioperm(0x3b4, 0x2c, 0x1)= -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
write(1, "svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissi"..., 37) = 37
munmap(0x40014000, 4096)= 0
_exit(1)= ?

Thanks for any help
 Attila

 

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Re: Transferring files between a windows machine and a Debian Li

[USM Bish]

On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Lehel Bernadt wrote:
> On 09-Aug-2000 USM Bish wrote:
> > I am at this game for the last few years. There are two solutions to this:
> > 
> > Solution 1: If you have multiple OSs (like me) with Debian 2.1, Slack-7,
> > and Win-98, (and BeOS till recently):
> > 
> >a) Create a separate partition, (Type of partition msdos or vfat).
> >Use "fips" for non destructive re-partitioning of existing DOS
> >partitions in case you do not want a ner installation.
> >b) This will show up automatically in DOS/ Win as Drive "X"
> >c) From Linux mount this partition, as umsdos, (otherwise, long
> >file names will be juggered). Since the partition I use is hdb3,
> >I mount it as follows:
> > 
> > mount -t umsdos /dev/hdb3 /archive
> > 
> > d) Having a separate partition has the advantage that all OSs which
> > can access a MS DOS partition can be used for sharing data
> > inclusive of mp3s, GIFs, HTML and other files. 
> >   
> > Solution 2: Just mount your DOS/ Win9x partition as msdos or vfat
> > to a mount point of your choice. All long filenames in this case would 
> > be 8.3 format. Just suitable enough for transfer of data, but not 
> > installing.
>  ^^^ 
> Oh really ? 8.3 with vfat ?

Unbelievable, but true. Just try it out, and you will see for yourself.

> And I think the author wants to transfer files between two machines, not two
> OSes on the same machine.

Sorry, I misunderstood the problem here. I apologise for this goof-up.

> 
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Re: Transferring files between a windows machine and a Debian Linux machine

[USM Bish]

Not your fault. Its mine. I applogise for this goof-up since I did not
understand the exact problem.

Short of actual networking, I have not done or heard of any one doing 
this sort of thing in Linux. I have used parallel port cable to transfer my 
data from my laptop to my PC using pure DOS software  (interlink etc), 
but never as a shared resource which would be necessary if you want
to install.

DOSEMU handles the DOS software quite well at the Linux end.

I have no experience with Samba., the only software I heard of where
one can share Windows resources on a second machine. Perhaps
some0ne who uses Samba can throw some light. I am just as curious
to know about it as you. 

USM Bish

On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> >%_I apologize, I may have not made it very clear that they are two, totally 
> >separate machines that I am trying to connect. That is what I meant by this 
> >"I need to transfer some program files and stuff from my windows machine 
> >(where I download the stuff) to the Linux machine". I REALLY appreciate what 
> >you had to say so maybe you have a thought on this too? Thanks in advance 
> >for your help.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "USM Bish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Cc: "Matt Gagné" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Transferring files between a windows machine and a Debian Linux 
> machine
> 
> 
> > I am at this game for the last few years. There are two solutions to this:
> > 
> > Solution 1: If you have multiple OSs (like me) with Debian 2.1, Slack-7,
> > and Win-98, (and BeOS till recently):
> > 
> >a) Create a separate partition, (Type of partition msdos or vfat).
> >Use "fips" for non destructive re-partitioning of existing DOS
> >partitions in case you do not want a ner installation.
> >b) This will show up automatically in DOS/ Win as Drive "X"
> >c) From Linux mount this partition, as umsdos, (otherwise, long
> >file names will be juggered). Since the partition I use is hdb3,
> >I mount it as follows:
> > 
> > mount -t umsdos /dev/hdb3 /archive
> > 
> > d) Having a separate partition has the advantage that all OSs which
> > can access a MS DOS partition can be used for sharing data
> > inclusive of mp3s, GIFs, HTML and other files. 
> >   
> > Solution 2: Just mount your DOS/ Win9x partition as msdos or vfat
> > to a mount point of your choice. All long filenames in this case would 
> > be 8.3 format. Just suitable enough for transfer of data, but not 
> > installing.
> > 
> > USM Bish
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, Matt Gagné wrote:
> > > I need to transfer some program files and stuff from my windows machine
> > > (where I download the stuff) to the Linux machine (where I am learning to
> > > set it up) Can someone tell me the best way to do that? Thanks.
> > > 
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Re: A few misc. problems

[Aaron Brashears]

Wow, I had over 100 new mail messages in my inbox this morning. I didn't
notice an answer to your questions, so I'll try.

> 3. How do I start postgres on startup?  I'm confused with all the different
> /etc/rc*.d directories.  This is how I think it is supposed to go:
> 
> 'su -c postgres postmaster -i -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >logfile 2>&1 &'
> 
> Do I put this in a '/etc/rc?.d/S??postgres' file?  What should go in place of
> the question marks?  Do I need a Kill file as well?

I've found that when you first install postgresql, it should install a
/etc/init.d/postgresql script to start/stop postgres. It also installs
sim links to that file in S20postgres in rc2,3,4,5.d directories.


> 4. When I chang the information in linuxconf for eth0 and eth1 the changes
> never seem to stick.  Meaning I open it right after closing it and it didn't
> save anything.  What are the files that I can edit directly?   On redhat they
> are like '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1'
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> cxpx

That depends on your system. Slink defaults to using the script in
/etc/init.d/network, but potato updates that by preferentially using
/etc/network/interfaces for ifup/ifdown configuration. If you're running
potato or woody, I suggest reading up on 'info ifup' and configure your
system.

To tell you the honest truth, I didn't know that linuxconf worked on
debian.

Installation: error messages

[Helgi Örn]

Hello Debians!

I just installed 2.1 slink (one more time) and got these messages at the
end of the dselect package installation:


Errors were encountered while processing

gs
gv
pstotext
pstoedit
ghostview

Installation script returned error exit status 1.

mv: /var/lib/pdmenu//pdmenurc_auto.new : No such file or directory

Update-menus: Cannot remove lockfile /var/run/update-menus.pid


I would be very grateful if someone could inform me about the importance
of these messages and in what way they effect my system.

I have installed 2.1 several times but never managed to configure it to
my satisfaction, no internet connection and no sound for example, and i
have REALLY tried. I really would like to use Debian/GNU instead of SuSE
which i otherwise have as my default OS.

Greetings!

Helgi Örn

Ensoniq Soundblaster PCI64D

[Helgi Örn]

Hello Debians!

I have installed 2.1 several times but never managed to configure it to
my satisfaction, no internet connection and no sound for example, and i
have REALLY tried. I really would like to use Debian/GNU instead of SuSE
which i otherwise have as my default OS.

If anyone got this same soundcard running in slink 2.1, i would be very
grateful if that person could give me a hint on configuring it with the
Alsa driver, or even send me a copy of the conf.modules file.

Many thanks.
Greetings.
Helgi Örn

Slink but no Internet...:-(

[Helgi Örn]

Hello Debians!

I have installed 2.1 several times but never managed to configure it to
my satisfaction, no internet connection and no sound for example, and i
have REALLY tried. I really would like to use Debian/GNU instead of SuSE
which i otherwise have as my default OS.

I've got a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO modem on ttyS0 (COM1), wvdial
and pppconf have never found it. Wvdial says it can't find the modem,
pon says that probably there is no kernel module for ppp support
installed. The ppp module IS installed, the modem works fine with Win98
and SuSE. So i'm stuck!

Any ideas?

Greetings!

Helgi Örn

RE: Included debian packages

[softarch]

Hi,
When I asked the first time I guess I did not appropriately addressed
what I am looking for.  So, is any of the products below available
on the disks that Debian makes available for Intel systems and
so available through Debian's distributors?
- Secure Web Server
- Any popular 3rd party server
- any 3rd party workstation
- any database
- Perl
- PHP
- JDK
Thank you,
George


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> The CDs that you provide through your distributors, do they
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> Apache, PHP, JDK, and etc. =20

Yes.  Though strictly, Debian isn't a company.

> I would like to install that at home
> (like a network) and test my development site before I would
> upload the files to the server at my Web-hosting provider?
> Thank you,
> George
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Pine with Color

[Jack Morgan]

I just installed Pine and like it a lot better than Mutt. But Mutt can view
mail in many different colors. How do the same in Pine?
Thanks

Jack Morgan Linux Enthusiast
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Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[John Hasler]

Dan writes:
> Makes me wonder exactly how much power of enforcement the FSF has.

Ask Apple.

> No one has ever tested the GPL in court,...

Most copyright issues never go to court.
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RE: Slink but no Internet...:-(

[Brooks R. Robinson]

Do you have the serial port drivers installed?  if you do an 'lsmod'
command, you should see 'serial' as a module if you haven't compiled it into
the kernel.  otherwise 'insmod serial' and 'insmod ppp' should get you a
long ways towards your goal.  If all else fails refer to
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/index.html for detailed help.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Helgi Örn
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:00 AM
> To: Debian User List
> Subject: Slink but no Internet...:-(
>
>
> Hello Debians!
>
> I have installed 2.1 several times but never managed to configure it to
> my satisfaction, no internet connection and no sound for example, and i
> have REALLY tried. I really would like to use Debian/GNU instead of SuSE
> which i otherwise have as my default OS.
>
> I've got a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO modem on ttyS0 (COM1), wvdial
> and pppconf have never found it. Wvdial says it can't find the modem,
> pon says that probably there is no kernel module for ppp support
> installed. The ppp module IS installed, the modem works fine with Win98
> and SuSE. So i'm stuck!
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Greetings!
>
> Helgi Örn
>
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Re: Pine with Color

[Ben Collins]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:59:42PM +0900, Jack Morgan wrote:
> 
> I just installed Pine and like it a lot better than Mutt. But Mutt can view
> mail in many different colors. How do the same in Pine?
> Thanks

You can't.

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Re: HP OpenMail

[Andrew McRobert]

hi

I downloaded the files the other day, and have just begun the process of
trying to install this on our Debian server. I've only had time to get to
the stage of converting the rpm's to .tgz files and extracting the files
to a temporary directory. It looks like it could take a fair bit of
hacking around to get it all to work properly on Debian. I've heard that
running the RedHat installation scripts on a Debian box will pretty much
f$^k up the machine.

Andrew

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Michael Meskes wrote:

> Is there anyone out there running this on a Debian machine? I'd like to try
> it, but the download simply gives me a damaged rpm. 
> 
> Michael
> 
> P.S.: Please CC me on replies.
> -- 
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> Michael@Fam-Meskes.De
> Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire!
> Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!
> 
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Re: FTE source

[Henk-Jan Kreuger]

Hi Somogyi,

somogyi lóránd wrote:

> does anybudy knows, where can I find the source of FTE?

In your Debian distribution? Under 'sources/editors'!
At every Debian ftp site, for example
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/frozen/main/sources/fte_0.49.13.orig.tar.gz
Or at the authors site at Sourceforge: http://ftp.sourceforge.net/

Grtz,
HJK

Re: restricting user in HOME using ProFTP

[Andrew McRobert]

thanks for that ...

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, John Pearson wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 06:40:51AM -0700, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira 
> wrote
> >   Hi all!
> > 
> >   I'm trying to restrict my FTP users in own directories using ProFTP.
> > 
> >   I used the configuration examples found in ProFTP's page but something
> >   is wrong.
> > 
> 
> AFAICT, all you need to do is add
> 
> DefaultRoot ~
> 
> somehwere near the top of /etc/proftpd.conf
> and run
> # /etc/init.d/proftpd reload
> 
> They should then be locked into their home directories;
> it seems to work for me.
> 
> 
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Re: high characters in file names change in new potato vs. current slink

[Michael Stone]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 01:04:06PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can someone tell me what I need to do to fix the following problem?
> 
> ls --show-control-chars

Actually, that's not the best choice. You should be able to see the
characters if you have a locale set. (E.g., LANG=en_US or LANG=de_DE)

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Re: IO permission problem

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> I've downloaded and compiled the latest stable quakeforge project.
> I've a problem: I can run qw-client-svga only as root.
> 
> I've the following permissions:
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 AUG 10 15:19 /dev/mouse -> gpmdata
> prw-r--r--1 root root0 AUG 11 13:05 /dev/gpmdata
> -rwsr-sr-x1 attila   staff  872936 AUG 11 12:57 
> /usr/local/bin/qw-client-svga
  ^^  ^^
> Here is the 'strace' output of running 'qw-client-svga'
> 
> read(6, "# Configuration file for svgalib"..., 16082) = 16082
> close(6)= 0
> open("/home/attila/.svgalibrc", O_RDONLY) = 6
> fstat(6, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=39, ...}) = 0
> read(6, "mouse MouseSystems\nmdev /dev/mou"..., 39) = 39
> close(6)= 0
> ioperm(0x3b4, 0x2c, 0x1)= -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
> write(1, "svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissi"..., 37) = 37
  

> munmap(0x40014000, 4096)= 0
> _exit(1)= ?

SVGAlib programs need to be SUID root.

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Re: Pine with Color

[Gergely Madarasz]

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:59:42PM +0900, Jack Morgan wrote:
> > 
> > I just installed Pine and like it a lot better than Mutt. But Mutt can view
> > mail in many different colors. How do the same in Pine?
> > Thanks
> 
> You can't.

Actually pine 4.21 supports colors... 

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Re: Pine with Color

[James Sasitorn]

well you can specify a few color options.. and you can give quote text
different colors (based on the reply depth).

S (setup) -> K (kolor)

james


On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:59:42PM +0900, Jack Morgan wrote:
> > 
> > I just installed Pine and like it a lot better than Mutt. But Mutt can view
> > mail in many different colors. How do the same in Pine?
> > Thanks
> 
> You can't.
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[Fwd: Ensoniq Soundblaster PCI64D]

[Helgi Örn]

 --- Begin Message ---
Hi David,

I didn't know that 2.1 doesn't suppert the es1371 chip! 
The PCI64 card has got the ES1371 chip not ES1370.

So i have to compile a new kernel! I've never done that before so i
don't know how either.

Thank you.
HÖ

David Vrabel wrote:
> 
> On 11 Aug 2000, Helgi [iso-8859-1] Örn wrote:
> 
> > If anyone got this same soundcard running in slink 2.1, i would be very
> > grateful if that person could give me a hint on configuring it with the
> > Alsa driver, or even send me a copy of the conf.modules file.
> 
> You need a newer kernel than the one supplied in slink.  Get hold of 2.2.x
> (I use 2.2.14) Configure the kernel ensuring that you include sound
> support and support for the ES1370 (and ES1371 perhaps).
> 
> David Vrabel
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Re: /etc/environment

[Lehel Bernadt]

On 11-Aug-2000 Patrick Dahiroc wrote:
> which man page do i need to learn more about the LANG and LC_LANG
> variables?  is there a comperhensive list of env variables?

- man [1|5|7] locale.
- the "Locales" chapter in the glibc manual
Usable variables are in /etc/locale.alias and the directory names in
/usr/share/locale (here are the locale data & translations stored).

Re: pgp

[USM Bish]

All packages of debian are listed at this URL:

http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/allpackages.html

USM Bish

On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Chris Nestrud wrote:
> Greetings. I'm trying to find a Debian package for pgp. Other packages
> requiring pgp have referred to such a package, but 'apt-cache search pgp'
> doesn't return anything meaningful. I haven't been able to find a package
> for pgp when searching through the various distributions, and haven't
> found anything relevant in mailing list archives. Still, if a package was
> referred to, shouldn't one exist?
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> 
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Re: high characters in file names change in new potato vs. current slink

[Nate Bargmann]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:51:53AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> 
> Actually, that's not the best choice. You should be able to see the
> characters if you have a locale set. (E.g., LANG=en_US or LANG=de_DE)

Say, it pays to lurk around here!  I've been driven nuts by Mutt not
showing special characters, while Vim does.  I set LANG=en_US and
logged out and back in and Voila!  Special chars!

Thanks much,

- Nate >>

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Re: pgp

[Spinfire Magenta]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 09:54:21PM +0530, USM Bish wrote:
> All packages of debian are listed at this URL:

I beleive (from experience) that the problem he may be running into is
trying to download the pgp packages from the US server.

You need to set non-US.debian.org as a package source (or manually
download the packages and install them) if you want access to the
cryptographic packages.

Personally, i would recommend getting GnuPG instead, as it is(IMHO)
slightly better.

Dan

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Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs

[Rick Macdonald]

On 11 Aug 2000, Christian Lynbech on satellite wrote:

> > "Greg" == Greg Strockbine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped
> >> tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar,
> 
> Greg> well, gee, its starting to sound like emacs  :-)
> 
> Just to make the note: emacs is able to browse tar files, even if
> compressed, and I believe there is also support for .debs somewhere.

Yes, in the editors/debview package.

It was reported once that it didn't work with emacs v20, but I (the
debview author) just tried and it seems to work fine.

...RickM...

Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[brian moore]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 06:12:35AM +, Mr Smith wrote:
> Has former copies of the Corel LinuxOS Open Circulation
> CD-ROM violated the General Public License?
> 
> This seems like a straight forward question but one that
> Corel has beat around the bush in answering.

You know I'd be more likely to take your concerns seriously if you
didn't hide behind psuedonyms and throwaway accounts.

> Part 4:  The excuses
> 
> Some popular excuses from Corel employees as to why it
> shouldn't matter which aspects of the General Public License
> they choose to ignore:
> 
> - Corel is an important contributor to open source.

This is true: much of WINE's progress in the past year or two has come
from Corel.  Corel's not just providing code to WINE, they're also
providing servers and support.

> - Corel will continue to be an important contributor to open
> source.

Assuming they stay afloat, but that's a different question...

> - Why do you need Corel to provide a written offer anyways?

That seems to be the crux of the issue.  Your gripe is that they don't
include a written offer for the source?  They certainly -do- provide the
source (either on a different CD or via their web site or even
apt-get'table).

Certainly they -should- provide such an offer.  Is it worth long
flames and threats for that?  Not likely.  As my mom always said, "You
catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." A -polite- request to
Corel pointing out that the sleeve of the CD should have the 'you have
the right to source code' would probably get it added on the next
print run.

> - This problem only effects the Open Circulation flavor of
> Corel LinuxOS which is just a small number of the LinuxOS
> distributed.

Right: the vast majority of people that get Corel get it as part of a
boxed set: that box -includes- a CD with source to everything that Corel
can legally supply source for.  (Ie, no source to Netscape or BRU or
Civ:CTP, but that's not in Corel's control.)  It also includes that
handy "Open Circulation" CD that only has Free Software on it, and Corel
encourages people to share that with their friends.

> - Corel doesn't intend to hide the source code.

I didn't think they did hide it.

> - Corel provides the source code on their web site.

Which shows that their intentions are valid and that you're nitpicking.

Again, YES, it's important that they provide the offer for source.  But
even more important is providing the source itself.  (Offers are
meaningless if they're not followed through, and superfluous if it's
already standard operating procedure.)

Write a -POLITE- (go read the Advocacy-HOWTO again) letter to Corel
and tell them your concerns.  You may want to Cc RMS on the letter as
well (for two reasons -- one, you may be more polite when you know RMS
will see it, and two, if you are polite RMS will certainly join you in
your campaign).

> Since talking privately in email with Corel has proven
> unfruitful (they refuse to even respond AT ALL now).  I
> would like to explore a project among GPL developers to file
> a lawsuit against Corel.  I intend to prove that despite the
> fact the GPL provides a method of redistribution for free
> that the package still has a monitary value to it and is
> still a copyrighted work.  Further, I would like to prove
> that my own copyrighted contributions which where on the
> Corel LinuxOS Open Circulation CD-ROM have a value not less
> than $1 per copy.  One of the flavors of redistribution
> Corel choose did not fall withen the licensing method of
> doing redistribution for free, so for those violations of
> license should be entitled to damages/royalities.  I would
> be willing to explore a class action lawsuit if other
> contributors to GPL packages which ship on the Corel Open
> Circulation CD-ROM wish to also collect royalities for
> any unlicensed redistribution conducted by Corel.  However,
> it is not my intention to make money off this.  Any money
> rewarded which doesn't go to lawyer fee will hopefully be
> donated to the Free Software Foundation.  Presently, it is
> my belief that legal action is the only way to get Corel to
> provide an acceptable responce to the fact that violating
> the GPL for six months is not acceptable regardless of how
> "important" or your "intentions" might be.

Good luck proving that the coasters handed out at shows have a monetary
value.  If you succeed on that point, I've got stacks of AOL disks that
I'm -sure- must be worth something

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Re: Installation: error messages

[John Pearson]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 04:43:41PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote
> Hello Debians!
> 
> I just installed 2.1 slink (one more time) and got these messages at the
> end of the dselect package installation:
> 
> 
> Errors were encountered while processing
> 
> gs
> gv
> pstotext
> pstoedit
> ghostview
> 
> Installation script returned error exit status 1.
> 

This happens because the order that dselect unpacks and
configures packages in is sometimes not quite right.

If you see messages like this after selecting "Install",
try selecting "Configure", then "Remove", and then "Install"
again.  That will usually fix things.

> mv: /var/lib/pdmenu//pdmenurc_auto.new : No such file or directory
> 
> Update-menus: Cannot remove lockfile /var/run/update-menus.pid
> 
> 

Not necessarily anything to worry about, providing the
menus work :-.

> I would be very grateful if someone could inform me about the importance
> of these messages and in what way they effect my system.
> 
> I have installed 2.1 several times but never managed to configure it to
> my satisfaction, no internet connection and no sound for example, and i
> have REALLY tried. I really would like to use Debian/GNU instead of SuSE
> which i otherwise have as my default OS.
> 
Good luck,


John P.
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Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[Peter S Galbraith]

"Mr Smith" wrote:

> Has former copies of the Corel LinuxOS Open Circulation
> CD-ROM violated the General Public License?

What's the code you contributed to?
Is the source somewhere under:

 ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/linux/CorelLinux/source/corellinux-1.1/

If so, what's the problem?
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Re: Transferring files between a windows machine and a Debian Li

[Lehel Bernadt]

On 11-Aug-2000 USM Bish wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Lehel Bernadt wrote:
>> On 09-Aug-2000 USM Bish wrote:
>> > I am at this game for the last few years. There are two solutions to this:
>> > 
>> > Solution 1: If you have multiple OSs (like me) with Debian 2.1, Slack-7,
>> > and Win-98, (and BeOS till recently):
>> > 
>> >a) Create a separate partition, (Type of partition msdos or vfat).
>> >Use "fips" for non destructive re-partitioning of existing DOS
>> >partitions in case you do not want a ner installation.
>> >b) This will show up automatically in DOS/ Win as Drive "X"
>> >c) From Linux mount this partition, as umsdos, (otherwise, long
>> >file names will be juggered). Since the partition I use is hdb3,
>> >I mount it as follows:
>> > 
>> > mount -t umsdos /dev/hdb3 /archive
>> > 
>> > d) Having a separate partition has the advantage that all OSs which
>> > can access a MS DOS partition can be used for sharing data
>> > inclusive of mp3s, GIFs, HTML and other files. 
>> >   
>> > Solution 2: Just mount your DOS/ Win9x partition as msdos or vfat
>> > to a mount point of your choice. All long filenames in this case would 
>> > be 8.3 format. Just suitable enough for transfer of data, but not
>> > installing.
>>  ^^^ 
>> Oh really ? 8.3 with vfat ?
> 
> Unbelievable, but true. Just try it out, and you will see for yourself.

Well, I don't know. Just look:
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep win_1 /etc/fstab 
/dev/hda1   /win_1vfat  gid=1001,umask=007,noexec,quiet 0 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -F /win_1
Jdk/artec/command.com  home/ mix_95/temp/
My Documents/   autoexec.bat  config.sys   io.sysmsdos.sys  util/
Office51/   autoexec.emu  djgpp/   linux/nc/win386.swp
Program Files/  bc/   drivers/ logo.sys  rcs/   windows/
Wincmd/ bp/   games/   mirc/ recycled/  winmcad/   

Now there are *definitely* some long filenames...
Or maybe I misunderstood something ?

Lap link app

[Carl Winbäck]

Is there any laplink app for UNIX, so I can transfer files
with my parallel cable?

/Carl

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Re: I can't ever boot-up with my new computer!!!

[Francesco Bochicchio]

On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 10:46:32AM -0700, Karl Matheson wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I can't install Linux, because when I boot of the 2.1 CD, it dies, showing
> me the stack. It looks like this:
> 
> ...
> scsi : 0 hosts
> scisi : detected total
> Partition check:
> hda : hda1 hda2
> RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> general protection: 
> CPU: 0
> EIP: 0010:[<0017f759>]
> EFLAGS: 00010206
> eax: 0001 ebx: 4a88 ecx: 000 edx: 03fe3d94
> esi: 03fe3d98 edi: 03fe4a9c ebp: 3d80 esp: 0038f714
> ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 0018 gs: 0018 ss: 0018
> Process swapper (pid: 1, process nr: 1, stackpage=0038f000)
> Stack:  0038f78c 0004  0004 03fe4a98 00
> 00 003f
> 01ff 4a84  0017fff9 00e40020 00091c14
> 0009 0006
> 0001 0038fca8  0038fd3c 4 0216
> 001e 011e
> Call Trace:  [<0017fff9>]  [<00130c00>]  [<0010ac15>]  [<00121550>]
> [<001097fa>]  [<001095
> 12>]  [<00109519>]  [<0010976c>]
> Code: 8d 76 00 8b 15 4c ese 27 00 8a 44 15 00 8b 4c 24  24 88 04 11
> 
> Thanks,
> Cameron Matheson
>
Possibly (just a guess), you have a processor which is not supported by the
kernel shipped with Debian 2.1 (linux 2.0.36 is quite old, after all)? 
For instance, if you have an AMD Atlon (like me ), you cannot boot from 
Debian 2.1. 
I think there are others CPUs not compatible with Debian 2.1, but I don't 
knwow where the list is ( somewhere in www.debian.org, I think )

If this is the case, there are several solutions :
- wait for debian 2.2 CDs - it should not be long, now
- download Debian 2.2 from the net
- Install from debian-based commercial distribution which has newer kernels
  (Corel, Storm and Libranet come to my mind), then use package manager
  tools to add others debian packages and remove the ones you don't like. 
- boot from a floppy made by someone with a kernel 2.2.x, then install
  debian from hard disk ( never tried this )

Ciao.
-- 
FB

Re: Slink but no Internet...:-(

[Helgi Örn]

"Brooks R. Robinson" wrote:
> 
> Do you have the serial port drivers installed?  if you do an 'lsmod'
> command, you should see 'serial' as a module if you haven't compiled it into
> the kernel.  otherwise 'insmod serial' and 'insmod ppp' should get you a
> long ways towards your goal.  If all else fails refer to
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/index.html for detailed help.
> 
The lsmod gives me:

ModuleSize  Used by
usbcore  423440  (unused)

insmod serial and ppp give me:

no module by that name found

HÖ

Re: I can't ever boot-up with my new computer!!!

[Jason J]

I thought this was a potential bad memory problem. When I get these kinds of 
errors
consistently I grab my memtest86(check freshmeat.net) boot disk and check it 
out. But
I could be totally wrong on this.


Francesco Bochicchio wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 10:46:32AM -0700, Karl Matheson wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I can't install Linux, because when I boot of the 2.1 CD, it dies, showing
> > me the stack. It looks like this:
> >
> > ...
> > scsi : 0 hosts
> > scisi : detected total
> > Partition check:
> > hda : hda1 hda2
> > RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> > general protection: 
> > CPU: 0
> > EIP: 0010:[<0017f759>]
> > EFLAGS: 00010206
> > eax: 0001 ebx: 4a88 ecx: 000 edx: 03fe3d94
> > esi: 03fe3d98 edi: 03fe4a9c ebp: 3d80 esp: 0038f714
> > ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 0018 gs: 0018 ss: 0018
> > Process swapper (pid: 1, process nr: 1, stackpage=0038f000)
> > Stack:  0038f78c 0004  0004 03fe4a98 00
> > 00 003f
> > 01ff 4a84  0017fff9 00e40020 00091c14
> > 0009 0006
> > 0001 0038fca8  0038fd3c 4 0216
> > 001e 011e
> > Call Trace:  [<0017fff9>]  [<00130c00>]  [<0010ac15>]  [<00121550>]
> > [<001097fa>]  [<001095
> > 12>]  [<00109519>]  [<0010976c>]
> > Code: 8d 76 00 8b 15 4c ese 27 00 8a 44 15 00 8b 4c 24  24 88 04 11
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Cameron Matheson
> >
> Possibly (just a guess), you have a processor which is not supported by the
> kernel shipped with Debian 2.1 (linux 2.0.36 is quite old, after all)?
> For instance, if you have an AMD Atlon (like me ), you cannot boot from
> Debian 2.1.
> I think there are others CPUs not compatible with Debian 2.1, but I don't
> knwow where the list is ( somewhere in www.debian.org, I think )
>
> If this is the case, there are several solutions :
> - wait for debian 2.2 CDs - it should not be long, now
> - download Debian 2.2 from the net
> - Install from debian-based commercial distribution which has newer kernels
>   (Corel, Storm and Libranet come to my mind), then use package manager
>   tools to add others debian packages and remove the ones you don't like.
> - boot from a floppy made by someone with a kernel 2.2.x, then install
>   debian from hard disk ( never tried this )
>
> Ciao.
> --
> FB
>
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Re: Installation: error messages

[Helgi Örn]

John Pearson wrote:
Thank you!

Nice web-site!

HÖ

> 
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 04:43:41PM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote
> > Hello Debians!
> >
> > I just installed 2.1 slink (one more time) and got these messages at the
> > end of the dselect package installation:
> >
> > 
> > Errors were encountered while processing
> >
> > gs
> > gv
> > pstotext
> > pstoedit
> > ghostview
> >
> > Installation script returned error exit status 1.
> >
> 
> This happens because the order that dselect unpacks and
> configures packages in is sometimes not quite right.
> 
> If you see messages like this after selecting "Install",
> try selecting "Configure", then "Remove", and then "Install"
> again.  That will usually fix things.
> 
> > mv: /var/lib/pdmenu//pdmenurc_auto.new : No such file or directory
> >
> > Update-menus: Cannot remove lockfile /var/run/update-menus.pid
> > 
> >
> 
> Not necessarily anything to worry about, providing the
> menus work :-.
> 
> > I would be very grateful if someone could inform me about the importance
> > of these messages and in what way they effect my system.
> >
> > I have installed 2.1 several times but never managed to configure it to
> > my satisfaction, no internet connection and no sound for example, and i
> > have REALLY tried. I really would like to use Debian/GNU instead of SuSE
> > which i otherwise have as my default OS.
> >
> Good luck,
> 
> John P.
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> 
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Re: Has Corel been violating the GPL for approx 6 months?

[Jason Quigley]

Reading between the lines of everything our anonymous friend had to say, it 
looks like he's looking for an angle to squeeze some cash.


He doesn't mention the software he supplied, but, I have a feeling it's 
probably called xambulancechaser or nogoodbrownshoessellmygrandmother!


Cheers,
Jason.

--On Friday, August 11, 2000 13:00 -0400 Peter S Galbraith 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




"Mr Smith" wrote:


Has former copies of the Corel LinuxOS Open Circulation
CD-ROM violated the General Public License?


What's the code you contributed to?
Is the source somewhere under:

 ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/linux/CorelLinux/source/corellinux-1.1/

If so, what's the problem?

Re: Included debian packages

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 07:56:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> When I asked the first time I guess I did not appropriately addressed
> what I am looking for.  So, is any of the products below available
> on the disks that Debian makes available for Intel systems and
> so available through Debian's distributors?
> - Secure Web Server
> - Any popular 3rd party server
> - any 3rd party workstation
> - any database
> - Perl
> - PHP
> - JDK
> Thank you,
> George

Again, the answer is yes to most of the above.  You can query for
specific packages at the "Packages" section of the Debian website:
http://www.debian.org/.  I'm not sure what your 2nd and 3rd listed items
are.  I won't say "yes" to "any database", but you can get several
packaged for Debian.  Proprietary RDBMSs can generally be installed from
tarball or RPM via the "alien" facility.

I'd strongly suggest you go to the Debian website, query for the
software you're looking for, and report back with any specific tools you
can't find.  With well over 4000 packages, there's a boatload of stuff
you can get (or should I say "apt-get") for Debian.

> 
> --- Original Message ---
> kmself@ix.netcom.com Wrote on 
> Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:23:54 -0700
>  -- 
> 
> --7J16OGEJ/mt06A90
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 09:39:09AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >=20
> > The CDs that you provide through your distributors, do they
> support
> > Apache, PHP, JDK, and etc. =20
> 
> Yes.  Though strictly, Debian isn't a company.

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Netscape 6 PR2 with Debian 2.2

[Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS]

$ ./netscape-installer
./netscape-installer-bin: error in loading shared libraries: 
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
directory

Is there a Debian package that provides this version of libstdc++? If
not, does anyone have a recipe for building it?

Please copy replies to me, because the archives for August are broken
(and have been for a while).

Edmund

PS. I'd also be interested in recipes for making Mozilla do HTTPS.

PPS. What is this crap with N million different version of libstdc++?
A deliberate ploy to prevent people distributing binary-only software
for Linux? What should Netscape do? Statically link?

Re: Lap link app

[kmself]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 10:23:04AM -0700, Carl Winbäck wrote:
> Is there any laplink app for UNIX, so I can transfer files
> with my parallel cable?

You want to use PLIP, a protcol.  No special software is required for
the Linux side.  Depending on your laptop OS you may have issues there.
See the Network Administrators Guide (AKA the NAG) available at
http://www.linuxdocs.org/, or search for "PLIP linux laptop" at Google.

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