Re: Netscape menu fonts with X11?

2000-04-23 Thread kmself
I tend to avoid attachments but the following may be useful.

/etc/X11/Xresources/netscape
/etc/X11/Xresources/xfree86-common

Netscape font settings require setting both Netscape and general XClient
resources.


On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 03:41:02PM +, Marc Haber wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> my ancient notebook can only do 800x600 pixels. Netscape from potato
> uses large fonts for menu bar and dialog boxes, so that the
> preferences dialog doesn't fit on screen.
> 
> How can I make netscape use smaller fonts?
> 
> Greetings
> Marc
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!## NETSCAPE
Netscape*drawingArea.translations:  #merge\
: ArmLink()   \n\
: ArmLink()   \n\
~Shift: ActivateLink()  \n\
~Shift: ActivateLink(new-window)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
Shift:  ActivateLink(save-only)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
Shift:  ActivateLink(save-only)  \
DisarmLink()\n\
:   DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
:   DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
:   DisarmLinkIfMoved()  \n\
:   DescribeLink()  \n\
: xfeDoPopup()\n\
:   ActivatePopup() \n\
Ctrl: PageUp()\n\
Ctrl: PageDown()\n\
Shift: LineUp()\n\
Shift: LineDown()\n\
 None: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
 None: 
LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\
Alt: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
Alt: xfeDoCommand(back)\n
Shiftspace:PageUp()\n\
space:PageDown()\n\
BackSpace: xfeDoCommand(back)\n\
!   Left: xfeDoCommand(back)\n\
!   Right: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n

Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations: #merge\
 Shift: LineUp()\n\
 Shift: LineDown()\n\
 None:LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
 None:LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\
 Alt: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
 Alt: xfeDoCommand(back)\n
 Shiftspace:PageUp()\n\
 space: PageDown()\n\
! BackSpace: xfeDoCommand(back)\n\
!   Left: xfeDoCommand(back)\n\
!   Right: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n

# Restrict the range of size increments allowed by  directives to 
# the range 80% - 120% rather than 50% - 210%.  Default increment is 20.
# KMSelf Wed Dec 29 15:47:57 PST 1999
Netscape*documentFonts.sizeIncrement:   05

# Clean up the fscking toolbar
Netscape*toolBar.search.isEnabled: false
Netscape*toolBar.destinations.isEnabled: false
Netscape*toolBar.myshopping.isEnabled: false
Netscape*toolBar.viewSecurity.isEnabled: false
Netscape*toolBar.print.isEnabled: true
Netscape*toolBar.home.isEnabled: true

# And some other brain damage
Netscape*useStdoutDialog: false
Netscape*useStderrDialog: false
Netscape*noAboutSplash: true

# Fonts -- dialogs and such
Netscape*attachmentProps*XmLabelGadget.fontList: fixed
Netscape*AddressBook*mainform.fontList:  fixed 
Netscape*XmLGrid*fontList:   fixed
Netscape*attachItemLabel*fontList:   fixed
Netscape*prefs*fontList: fixed
Netscape*statusBar*fontList: fixed

# Document fonts -- scaling doesn't appear to take effect w/ TTF fonts
Netscape*documentFonts.defaultFont*iso-8859-1.prop: -ttf-garamond-120-noscale   

Netscape*documentFonts.defaultFont*iso-8859-1.fixed: -ttf-courier new-90-noscale


! /etc/X11/Xresources/xfree86-common

! load color-specific resources for clients that have them
#ifdef COLOR
*customization: -color
#endif

! make Xaw (Athena widget set) clients understand the delete key
! this causes problems with some non-Xaw apps, use with care
! *Text.translations: #override ~Shift ~Meta Delete: 
delete-next-character()

! Use fixed fonts for all menus and stuff.  Mostly affects Motif and 
! Lesstif apps.
*fontList:  fixed
*XmTextField.fontList:  fixed
*XmText.fontList:   fixed
*XmList*fontList:   fixed  
*popup*fontList:fixed


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Re: Print & Email the same document

2000-04-23 Thread Arcady Genkin
Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I've been trying to do this off-and-on for two years, and although
> > I've had lots of help, nothing has ever worked. Can I assume that
> > it's impossible to print and email a document from one command?

There is a utility that splits a file into two pipes, but I'll be
damned if I can remember how it's called. Anyone?

Other than that, can't you just write a very simple shell script (like
another follow-up suggests)?
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apropos broken in potato (here)

2000-04-23 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I wrote in before with the problem that apropos is now
broken on my potato system and I don't know how to fix
it.  It either hangs with no response, gives a short
response and never finishes (never get the bash prompt
back unless I ^C), or prints a response repeatly (of
one or more finds).  In the latter case seems to get
stuck on something from section 3, maybe tckl or qt.

How can I repair apropos?  I have tried apt-get
dist-upgrade as suggested, but my system seems to be
up to date as far as that was concerned (first did
apt-get update).  I know others don't have the
problem, but they may have different packages
installed than I do, and there may be a broken man
page somewhere that is screwing me up?  If it would
help I could attach a list out of my installed
packages, or a directory list of all man files I have?

Any ideas?   Thanks.

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magicfilter vs. apsfilter

2000-04-23 Thread Arcady Genkin
Has anyone had experience with both of these filter packages? What are
the notable differences?

On another note, I wonder why neither of them seems to support hpdj
driver by default...
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Re: Print & Email the same document

2000-04-23 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 09:21:59PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > I've been trying to do this off-and-on for two years, and although
> > > I've had lots of help, nothing has ever worked. Can I assume that
> > > it's impossible to print and email a document from one command?
> 
> There is a utility that splits a file into two pipes, but I'll be
> damned if I can remember how it's called. Anyone?

You might be thinking of 'tee'.

> 
> Other than that, can't you just write a very simple shell script (like
> another follow-up suggests)?
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Trouble with video on installation boot

2000-04-23 Thread Philip C Mendelsohn
Hi,

I have been impressed with Debian and am installing it on all the systems
on the network here.  I have one that's being a little poopy about booting
the installation, and I wonder if anyone has experience with it.

The machine in question is an older DELL 486DX2 50MHz machine, 16MB RAM,
we put a 2.1 GB drive in.  It runs Caldera OpenLinux, and will boot a
tomsrtbt floppy just fine.

When I have tried to boot it using a 2.2.12 kernel (from the slink
dist) or a Mandrake 7.0 or a Redhat 5.2 boot disk, the machine gets as far
as the line

'Loading root.bin ...'

and then the display goes blank.

It is a VGA output, using an S3 86C801/86C805 video chip, which I take it
is pretty textbook for old VGA.

I have tried most if not all permutations of playing with shadowing video
RAM in the BIOS, I have tried the boot params 'vga=ask', 'mem=15M', and
maybe a couple of other ones.  No matter what, Caldera and tomsrtbt will
boot, but Debian blanks the screen.  I thought it was a DPMS compliant
monitor thing, but even with an old VGA monitor that doesn't support it,
it does the same thing.

Can anyone offer a suggestion on how to get Debian talking to this
machine?  The kernel does seem to keep loading in the darkness, but I
can't see anything on the screen, so it's not real useful!

Thanks,

Phil Mendelsohn

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Netscape

2000-04-23 Thread Philip C Mendelsohn
One more question:

On one of my other machines, I need to have Netscape Navigator installed,
so I can have a browser that does RSA secure https:// browsing (for some
online banking.)

I am very much in the learning curve of dselect and apt-get, and alien
doesn't like to talk to the Mandrake rpm's I have lying around.

If someone can offer a couple of pearls of wisdom regarding getting
Navigator (I'd prefer the standalone browser, and not the whole
Communicator mess, but I'll take what I can get since disk space is
cheaper than time!) running under Debian, I'd appreciate it.  It's fairly
convoluted trying to sort through www.debian.org on that topic, at least
for me.

Thanks!

Phil Mendelsohn

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lpd troubles (can't enable lp2 lp3 spools)

2000-04-23 Thread Arcady Genkin
My printcap specifies three printers: lp|lp1, lp2, and lp3 with spools
in /var/spool/lpd/(lp1|lp2|lp3). These are all for the same printer on
/dev/lp0, but with different options (draft, normal, best).

While lp1's status is always OK, lp2 and lp3 are always disabled (as
follows from `status' files in their spol directories). I can't figure
out why.

I tried using `lpc' command to `clean', `enable', and `start' the
stubborn printers, but to no avail.

,[ Here's a round of `lpc's ]
| tea:/etc# lpc clean lp2
| lp2:
| tea:/etc# lpc enable lp2
| lp2:
| queuing enabled
| tea:/etc# cat /var/spool/lpd/lp2/status 
| printing disabled
| tea:/etc# lpc start lp2
| lp2:
| printing enabled
| lpc: connect: Connection refused
| couldn't start daemon
`

,[ FWIW, here's my /etc/printcap ]
| lp|lp1|HP Deskjet 697C Draft:\
| :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\
| :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
| :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-draft:\
| :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
| 
| lp2|HP Deskjet 697c Normal:\
| :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp2:\
| :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
| :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-normal:\
| :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
| 
| lp3|HP Deskjet 697c Best:\
| :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp3:\
| :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
| :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-best:\
| :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
`

Thanks for any ideas!!!
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odd ppp performance

2000-04-23 Thread Lindsay Allen

Greetings,

I have been bothered for years with this problem and I still have no idea
on where to look for the cause.

About once a fortnight I get very slow ppp performance and when I check
with ping I see the packets coming back in groups of ~8.  Sometimes it
fixes itself but usually I have to hangup and redial.  Here is an example.

mentor:# ping t99
PING t99 t99.xxx.wa.edu.au (192.168.1.99): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254 time=7441.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=6459.8 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=5474.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=254 time=4517.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=254 time=3525.3 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=254 time=2532.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=254 time=1542.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=7 ttl=254 time=552.7 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=8 ttl=254 time=7996.1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=9 ttl=254 time=7037.2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=10 ttl=254 time=6061.9 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=11 ttl=254 time=5071.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=12 ttl=254 time=4077.2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=13 ttl=254 time=3082.3 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=14 ttl=254 time=2108.0 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=15 ttl=254 time=1116.9 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=16 ttl=254 time=128.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=17 ttl=254 time=119.4 ms

Can anyone throw any light on this weird behaviour, please?
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Re: Package Info

2000-04-23 Thread kmself
On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 01:27:40PM -0500, Irish, Jon D wrote:
> Is there a comprehensive list somewhere, of all of the available Debian
> packages, that describes them in detail? Being new, sometimes I am not too
> sure what exactly I need to install to acomplish what I want to do (vague, I
> know ;-). The DSELECT program is pretty much overwhelming for me, thus I am
> searching for this documentation.

You can read the packages status file for information from
/var/lib/dpkg/status.  This lists, IIRC, all packages available from
your various apt sources, whether installed or not, and is somewhat more
flexible than looking for the same information from dselect.

You can search package descriptions at the Debian website,
http://www.debian.org/packages, as suggested elsewhere.

You can browse a site such as Freshmeat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) for
tools which look like they'll fit your needs, and either check there for
a Debian package, or query through one of the above methods the Debian
packages list(s).

If a Debian package doesn't exist for the particular tool you're looking
for, you can generally install an RPM file through "alien", or install
the software from a tarball or such.  Note the the last case, you will
almost always want to install the software to /usr/local (./bin, ./sbin,
./lib, etc.), as this is where software *not* managed by the Debian
packaging system is supposed to be placed.

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Woody

2000-04-23 Thread Bill
Can someone please tell me what is required in  "/etc/apt/sources.list"
to upgrade to "woody"

Thanks in advance
Bill



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Re: installing Debian for an Unix-ignorant user (point-and-click installation)

2000-04-23 Thread kmself
On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 06:32:34PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Hi all:
> 
> A friend of mine in a fit of anger directed to his Window~1
> installation called me and asked if I would install Linux for him. We
> have discussed with him before, that everything he needs from a
> computer (web browsing, document/spreadsheet editing, email) can be
> done from within Linux using familiar to him graphical interfaces. His
> Win98 has been blue-screening on him way too often.

StarOffice supports most MSO file formats (Word, Excel, PPT) pretty
well.  It's a bit of a pig.  It's free as in beer.  I don't particularly
care for it as a working tool.

Corel Office has had mixed reviews, but promises similar compatibility
to SO.  WordPerfect is a champ (though I prefer the DOS 5.1 version).

Applix is also available, though my experience is with an older, and
very klunky, version.

The Gnome "office suite" -- AbiWord, Gnumeric, and xmp (MagicPoint) do a
pretty good job, though they're somewhat less feature-rich than their
proprietary brethren.

Browsers -- Netscape 4.x, Netscape 6.x/Mozilla, kfm, Gnome help
browser...

> Next week I'm going to install Debian on his computer. Basically, I am
> thinking of setting up Gnome, and stuffing everything he could need in
> a root menu and clickable icons. He is no dummy, but has very little
> knowledge of computers besides most common applications.

Though Gnome's probably doable, for someone with an MS Windows
background I'd probably pick KDE.  Personally I prefer WindowMaker to
either, and generally prefer Gnome's philosophy, my recommendation is
strictly from a beginner's usability standpoint.

> Has anyone done this kind of setup? Are there any things that I should
> be forewarned about, perhaps?

Basics -- document generation, spreadsheets, file management, web
browsing -- Linux is as simple as anything out of Redmond.

Interactivity -- file formats and document interchange -- there *will*
be issues.  Redmond writes the rules for a large portion of the market,
and interconnectivity can be painful.

Games, multimedia.  There are issues, particularly with web-based
plugins, media players, and entertainment stuff.  The simple fact is
that there will be things you *can't* do (or can't do as well, as
easily, or as nicely) under Linux.  OTOH, your computer isn't crashing
all the time, and there's a lot of slick stuff you can *only* do under
Linux.  Life is compromise.  If your friend is aware of the tradeoffs,
life should be good.

One possible compromise is to install VMWare (~$100 personal edition)
and boot a Windows session within it.  Performance lags, and some
functionality (devices, sound) aren't available, but certain
interconnection issues go away. 

> How easy is it to configure a ppp connection as a desktop icon? (I'm on
> a cable modem, and have never configured ppp under Linux).

Gnome, KDE, and WindowMaker all have graphical PPP status/activation
tools (gppp, kppp, and wmppp, IIRC).

pppconfig is an ncurses (console-based) utility for configuring your
connection(s).

> I'll be very greatful for any suggestions and ideas!
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Re: Woody

2000-04-23 Thread Mike Werner
On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 02:56:05PM +1000, Bill wrote:
> Can someone please tell me what is required in  "/etc/apt/sources.list"
> to upgrade to "woody"

Here's my sources.list:

# Use for a local mirror - remove the ftp1 http lines for the bits
# your mirror contains.
# deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free
# See sources.list(5) for more information, especial
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free

Where it says unstable in the two lines, you can change to
woody if you want to track the version by name.
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Re: Print & Email the same document

2000-04-23 Thread Bruce Sass
On 22 Apr 2000, Arcady Genkin wrote:

> Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > I've been trying to do this off-and-on for two years, and although
> > > I've had lots of help, nothing has ever worked. Can I assume that
> > > it's impossible to print and email a document from one command?
> 
> There is a utility that splits a file into two pipes, but I'll be
> damned if I can remember how it's called. Anyone?

Maybe you are thinking of "tee": 
read from standard input and write to standard output and files
Try: "info tee" for more info


later,

Bruce


Re: how do you set your system clock from a remote time server?

2000-04-23 Thread kmself
On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 10:54:03AM -0400, Maury Merkin wrote:
> I saw, just a few days ago, a post with a command to get the current
> time and reset the system clock.
> 
> I didn't pay much attention then 'cause I thought the script I used to
> use with RH would work.  They don't.  (No 'rdate' and no 'clock').

Adapted from my /etc/crontab:

24 4  * * *root /usr/sbin/ntpdate  1>/dev/null

You'll have to select a timeserver for your system, RTFM.  You may also
want to modify the time specs at which the script runs (my own system
syncs four times daily).

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mp3

2000-04-23 Thread Les Dowthwaite




HiCan you help.    Do you know 
of a free program that will convert MP3 to 
WAVE.Thanks


Re: lpd troubles (can't enable lp2 lp3 spools)

2000-04-23 Thread Arcady Genkin
Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > My printcap specifies three printers: lp|lp1, lp2, and lp3 with spools
> > in /var/spool/lpd/(lp1|lp2|lp3). These are all for the same printer on
> > /dev/lp0, but with different options (draft, normal, best).
> 
> Hmmm, those are all valid names for lineprinter devices (parallel
> ports), it is probably best to pick some other names to use... just to
> eliminate the possibility that the software thinks you are referring to
> different parallel ports.

Bruce, thanks for your suggestion. I tried renaming the printers in
the printcap to something different, creating their spool directories,
restarting lpd, but the problem persists.

,
| tea:/etc/init.d# lpc enable lpn
| lpn:
| queuing enabled
| tea:/etc/init.d# lpc start lpn
| lpn:
| printing enabled
| lpc: connect: Connection refused
| couldn't start daemon
`

I have a feeling that the problem lies with some networking issue
(since the *connection* is refused). Which is kinda weird, since these
are all local printers.
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PowerMac support

2000-04-23 Thread Bob Kuo
Dear PowerMac users,
I looked over the support page for PowerMacintoshes, but i have not found
all of the information I require. Do you support PowerMacs 8100s? I saw that
almost all of the other PowerMacintoshes were supported, but 8100s were not
listed as one of the supported one.

Please send an email back

Thanks

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Re: mp3

2000-04-23 Thread Arcady Genkin
"Les Dowthwaite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1.  (*) text/plain  ( ) text/html   
> 
> HiCan you help.Do you know of a free program that will convert MP3 to 
> WAVE.Thanks

Xmms would do it. Just change the output plugin from "OSS driver" to
"Disk writer" or something of that sort.

p.s. Please post in plain text and wrap your lines at 72 characters.
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Re: Scrolling with a Wheel Mouse in Netscape

2000-04-23 Thread Christophe TROESTLER
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Eric Hagglund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Got on Collas Nahaboo's Wheel Mouse  web page. I was able to use the
> information on it to get my xterm to scroll previous output, but I'm
> still having  problems getting Netscape to work.  The information on
> Collas' page  said to add some  lines to /.Xdefaults, but  I find no
> such file  on my system. I  tried creating an .Xdefaults  in my user
> directory, but this had no effect on Netscape.

After creating ~/.Xdefaults you have to issue

xrdb ~/.Xdefaults

to update the database.

ChriS


Re: Dell Inspiron 7000 and Debian?

2000-04-23 Thread Kari Ruohonen
I run Inspiron 7500 with potato with no major problems. APM works -
resume/suspend is OK. Hibernation needs FAT-partition and I have not tried
to set it up. I don't have the winmodem (I ordered without) but if I
recall correctly there might be ways to get it work, too. I don't know
about the DVD - i have CD-RW that works fine. See
www.linux.org and their Hardware/Laptops section. They list a few Dell
Inspiron pages for Linux.

Kari

On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Mats Rynge wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I just got the offer to buy a Dell Inspiron 7000 and I wonder if anyone here
> got any thoughts about running Debian on it. Pros? Cons? It is the PII 333
> model with 96 megs. Has builtin DVD (can I at least use it as cd-rom?) and a
> builtin modem (Winmodem I guess...). How well does the suspend/resume
> functions work with Linux?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Mats
> 
> 
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Re: odd ppp performance

2000-04-23 Thread kmself
On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 11:51:35AM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I have been bothered for years with this problem and I still have no idea
> on where to look for the cause.
> 
> About once a fortnight I get very slow ppp performance and when I check
> with ping I see the packets coming back in groups of ~8.  Sometimes it
> fixes itself but usually I have to hangup and redial.  Here is an example.
> 
> mentor:# ping t99
> PING t99 t99.xxx.wa.edu.au (192.168.1.99): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254 time=7441.6 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=6459.8 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=5474.5 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=254 time=4517.5 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=254 time=3525.3 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=254 time=2532.6 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=254 time=1542.5 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=7 ttl=254 time=552.7 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=8 ttl=254 time=7996.1 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=9 ttl=254 time=7037.2 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=10 ttl=254 time=6061.9 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=11 ttl=254 time=5071.6 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=12 ttl=254 time=4077.2 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=13 ttl=254 time=3082.3 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=14 ttl=254 time=2108.0 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=15 ttl=254 time=1116.9 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=16 ttl=254 time=128.5 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=17 ttl=254 time=119.4 ms
> 
> Can anyone throw any light on this weird behaviour, please?

How long is your PPP connection up?

I tend to leave my system online 24/7, and have noticed that after a
time -- usually one the order of a week or two -- network performance
degrades, though I hadn't thought to trace pings.  What makes you say
that they're coming in sets of 8?

My solution is also to kill the connection and redial.

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Re: Upgrade failed

2000-04-23 Thread Bill
Problem solved. found answer in archives (file attached)

many thanks to those who tried to help

Bill



On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 10:27:34PM -0600, Alberto Brealey G. wrote:
> 
> i've done a fresh install of slink (because i have the bootable CD lying
> around...), and need to upgrade to potato/frozen. it does the apt-get update
> fine (retrieves the package lists). when i try to dist-upgrade, it downloads
> 13.7 MB fine, but when trying to install, it exits with:
> 
> E: Internal error, couldn't configure a pre-depend
> 
> does anyone knows what might be wrong? (I tried different mirrors on my
> sources.list, they all did the same).

It's a circular pre-depends.  I'm appending my previous email on the
subject.  I've seen a few posts that say my method works, but I still
don't guarantee it :)

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On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 11:37:13AM -0700, john s anderson wrote:
[ snip ]
> However, I'd like to update the installation to at least frozen, and
> probably to unstable -- and that's where the problem comes in. After doing
> the base install, I add the frozen line to sources.list, do `apt-get
> update` -- all of which works as expected.
>
> Any attempt to install pretty much anything after that won't work, because
> of some problem between debianutils and libc6. It looks to me like they're
>  mutually pre-dependent, or something. Here's the error output from
> `apt-get install libc6`:
>
> 
> penguin:~# apt-get install libc6
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   g++ libstdc++2.10 cpp gcc debianutils libc6-dev libstdc++2.10-dev
> binutils
>   ldso
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   timezones libstdc++2.9-dev egcc
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   libstdc++2.10 libstdc++2.10-dev
> 8 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 3 to remove and 582 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/7390kB of archives. After unpacking 9989kB will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> E: Internal Error, Couldn't configure a pre-depend
> 

I was able to get around this, but I DO NOT recommend that anyone use
my method!!  If you do, don't tell me about how screwed up your system
got.

Ok, it appears that libc6 predepends on a version of debianutils that
provides "readlink".  debianutils predepends on a version of libc6 >=
2.1 ... catch-22.  However, a *brief* glance at the libc6 pre-inst
indicates that readlink is being used to preserve time zone
configuration info.

I decided that breaking time zones was not a big deal.  Of course,
this particular machine is not mission critical, so I must stress
again that this worked for me, it probably won't work for you.  if it
does, cool.  If not, you've been warned twice :)

I created a file "/usr/bin/readlink" with the following contents:

  #! /bin/sh
  true

I then installed libc6 using a --force-depends (this is your third
warning!  This is not a good idea!)  I found the libc6 deb in
"/var/cache/apt/archives", so I cd over there and type

  dpkg --force-depends -i libc6_2.1.3-4_i386.deb

Directly afterwards I ran apt-get:

  apt-get -f install

Luckily, everything still worked, and I was able to proceed to
`apt-get upgrade', etc.

I'm fairly insane so the above is FYI :)

Luck,

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Re: PowerMac support

2000-04-23 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 12:34:05AM -0500, Bob Kuo wrote:
> Dear PowerMac users,
> I looked over the support page for PowerMacintoshes, but i have not found
> all of the information I require. Do you support PowerMacs 8100s? I saw that
> almost all of the other PowerMacintoshes were supported, but 8100s were not
> listed as one of the supported one.

The [6,7,8]100 series powermacs are not supported by linux, they are
NuBus based machines, Linux only supports PCI based Powermacs.  if you
want a challenge i have been told it is possible to use Debian
userland with the Mklinux kernel (a bastardization of the Linux kernel
onto the Mach kernel, it was done by apple and then abandoned, its
being somewhat supported by volunteers at this point) 

btw, the debian-powerpc list has more people familier with the powerpc
archetecture then this one, you will probably get more answers posting there.

> Please send an email back
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
> 
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Re: magicfilter vs. apsfilter

2000-04-23 Thread Phillip Deackes
Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone had experience with both of these filter packages? What are
> the notable differences?
> 
Of the two I have always preferred Magicfilter because I found it easier
to set up and substitute my own filters etc. where necesssary. It does
have a config utility like apsfilter (magicfilterconfig).

> On another note, I wonder why neither of them seems to support hpdj
> driver by default...

They do. Whether you have the hpdj driver available or not depends on
whether it the Ghostscript you are using has been compiled with hpdj
support. If you do 'gs -h' you will see all the drivers your ghostscript
can use. If hpdj is on that list then you can use it. I know that
apsfilter will automatically detect it.

May I make a suggestion? Try installing printtool - it is available via
apt-get. Printtool offers a GUI for installing printers and when you go
to 'input filter/select' it should list all the drivers available on
your system. AFAIK it uses its own filters and has no need of
magicfilter or apsfilter. I always used to use it with RedHat and was
pleased when I found it was available for Debian too. I had always
assumed it was a RedHat/Caldera-only tool.


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Re: Package Info

2000-04-23 Thread Egbert Bouwman
On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 09:36:35PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> You can read the packages status file for information from
> /var/lib/dpkg/status.  This lists, IIRC, all packages available from
> your various apt sources, whether installed or not, and is somewhat more
> flexible than looking for the same information from dselect.
> 
My impression is that the status file only contains info about packages
I ever expressed some interest in. My status file mentions 709 packages,
but the available file 2694.

All 'Status: ' lines with 'not-installed' in the status-file 
say something like:
   install OK not-installed
   purge   OK not-installed
   holdOK not-installed
but never something like:
   unknown  not-installed
   
egbert   
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Re: odd ppp performance

2000-04-23 Thread Lindsay Allen
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 11:51:35AM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I have been bothered for years with this problem and I still have no idea
> > on where to look for the cause.
> > 
> > About once a fortnight I get very slow ppp performance and when I check
> > with ping I see the packets coming back in groups of ~8.  Sometimes it
> > fixes itself but usually I have to hangup and redial.  Here is an example.
> > 
> > mentor:# ping t99
> > PING t99 t99.xxx.wa.edu.au (192.168.1.99): 56 data bytes
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254 time=7441.6 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=6459.8 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=5474.5 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=254 time=4517.5 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=254 time=3525.3 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=254 time=2532.6 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=254 time=1542.5 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=7 ttl=254 time=552.7 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=8 ttl=254 time=7996.1 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=9 ttl=254 time=7037.2 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=10 ttl=254 time=6061.9 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=11 ttl=254 time=5071.6 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=12 ttl=254 time=4077.2 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=13 ttl=254 time=3082.3 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=14 ttl=254 time=2108.0 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=15 ttl=254 time=1116.9 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=16 ttl=254 time=128.5 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=17 ttl=254 time=119.4 ms
> > 
> > Can anyone throw any light on this weird behaviour, please?
> 
> How long is your PPP connection up?
> 
> I tend to leave my system online 24/7, and have noticed that after a
> time -- usually one the order of a week or two -- network performance
> degrades, though I hadn't thought to trace pings.  What makes you say
> that they're coming in sets of 8?
> 
> My solution is also to kill the connection and redial.

Yes, I do that too.  But I want to know just what has gone wrong.  I'm
like that.  

I leave my connections up 7/24 and it may perform just fine for maybe two
weeks.  But then I get the above problem.  (Local calls here are untimed.)

Why do I think the packets come in sets of 8?  Take a look at the output.  
The reply to ping 16 took 1 second longer than that for ping 17 and that
for packet 15 1 second longer again.  Thus all 8 arrive as a burst.  This
is confirmed by the modem lights.

This has occured with different Deb boxes and different ISPs.  Seems to me
that it is either a ppp bug or a kernel bug but it has persisted over
different versions of both.

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voice +61 8 9316 2486   32.0125S 115.8445E   Debian Linux
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Re: Money wasted on purchase of debian cd?

2000-04-23 Thread Jens Arvidsson
Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>The glib answer would be to have patience.  I've been horribly behind
>in the CD business, mainly due to taking on far too many
>responsibilities, most of which have been a distraction from Debian
>and hacking in general.
>
>As for your order in particular, I'm hoping to have a batch of orders
>shipped on Monday, including your Intel order.

That's great, thanks for the clarification. I don't so much mind
waiting, as not knowing whether my emails ever reached their
destination; a confirmation of mail being received would have made
wonders.

Jens Arvidsson


hello, my friends

2000-04-23 Thread james tsang



where can I found the apxs script on my apache, or should I 
recomplie apache, so I can get it?
I use a apache 1.3.12-2, But I can not find apxs while I 
building it cooperate with PHP3.
thanks very much.


Tk-Skript for shutting down the box [Was: Re: rebooting as user]

2000-04-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Mullins, Ron hat gesagt: // Mullins, Ron wrote:

> C-A-Rubout drops me to a console, yes. Using xdm/wdm/gdm that console isn't
> logged in. This then leaves me with, "Ok, honey...now that you've killed the
> window manager, you now have to login again, then you can hit C-A-Del. (me
> gets blank stare, then "Why?")"
> 
> Hmmm...this is turning out to be more than I thought.

I use a little script at all my home machines, that requires no
gnome, no [kd]wm just tcl/tk an plain xdm. I found this on this
list some years ago, but I don't know the author anymore.

The trick is: The Xserver is running as root anyway, so if you can get
the xserver to run the shutdown command, there is no need to mess with
sudo etc.

Anyway here is the script (slighly modified and translated to german by
me ;)

Installation is simple. Put the attached tkmgr-skript in /usr/local/bin

You have to edit two config files. First put the following at the end of 
"/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0" 

#  snip Xsetup_0 --
# Starting the shutdownmanager:
/usr/local/bin/tkmgr &
echo $! > /var/run/tkmgr-pid
#  snip ---

Then put this in "/etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0":

#  snip Xstartup_0 --
# :0 specific startup commands go here

# Kill the Shutdownmanager:
if [ -f /var/run/tkmgr-pid ]
then
  kill `cat /var/run/tkmgr-pid`
  rm -f /var/run/tkmgr-pid
fi
#  snip  --


That's it. 

bye
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#!/usr/bin/wishx

# Init stuff
wm title . Chooser
wm protocol . WM_DELETE_WINDOW Quit

# Ganz unten
wm geometry . +1-1

# The buttons
frame .buttons
button .buttons.reboot \
-text "System neu starten" \
-width 19 \
-command Reboot
button .buttons.halt \
-text "System runterfahren" \
-width 19 \
-command Halt
pack append .buttons \
.buttons.halt   {left expand fill} \
.buttons.reboot {left expand fill}

pack .buttons -side top -fill x -expand true

# The Functions
proc Quit {} {
exit 0
}

proc Reboot {} {
exec /sbin/shutdown -rt 15 now < /dev/tty1 > /dev/tty1 2> /dev/tty1 &
}

proc Halt {} {
exec /sbin/shutdown -ht 15 now < /dev/tty1 > /dev/tty1 2> /dev/tty1 &
}



Re: hello, my friends

2000-04-23 Thread james tsang



I found it in develop tools , thanks very much.
and I post it here let other like me can find it.
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/apache-devel-1.3.12-10mdk.i586.html
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  james 
  tsang 
  To: debian-user 
  Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 7:27 PM
  Subject: hello, my friends
  
  where can I found the apxs script on my apache, or should I 
  recomplie apache, so I can get it?
  I use a apache 1.3.12-2, But I can not find apxs while I 
  building it cooperate with PHP3.
  thanks very much.


success!

2000-04-23 Thread Philo Farnsworth
Well, I'm pleased to report that I finally succeeded with my first
Linux installation.  I was installing Debian 2.1+ from the OReilly CD
and was having some trouble installing the base system (though
everything else seemed to install just fine).  I appreciate the helpful
comments from those who gave advice regarding the problem, but
unfortunately it turned out to be a hardware problem!

I swapped out my CD ROM drive for my housemate's CD ROM drive and tried
again with that.  It worked, to my amazement, and I was soon thereafter
set up with my Debian system.

More newbie questions to come from me in the near future...  (oh, I
know you're excited too)


Erik

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Re: Netscape

2000-04-23 Thread Vitux
Philip C Mendelsohn wrote:
> 
> One more question:
> 
> On one of my other machines, I need to have Netscape Navigator installed,
> so I can have a browser that does RSA secure https:// browsing (for some
> online banking.)
> 
> I am very much in the learning curve of dselect and apt-get, and alien
> doesn't like to talk to the Mandrake rpm's I have lying around.
> 
> If someone can offer a couple of pearls of wisdom regarding getting
> Navigator (I'd prefer the standalone browser, and not the whole
> Communicator mess, but I'll take what I can get since disk space is
> cheaper than time!) running under Debian, I'd appreciate it.  It's fairly
> convoluted trying to sort through www.debian.org on that topic, at least
> for me.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Phil Mendelsohn
> 
> --
Hi there

IIRC, the Navigator from version 4.72 of Communicator can be
downloaded from Netscape's site as a tarball. I got
communicator4.72 myself, and it was quite easy to install on
my slink system. (simply untar it and run the install-script).
The new Mozilla-based Communicator6.0 is compiled on potato
libs, => pain installing on slink.
HTH
Vitux

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VNC question

2000-04-23 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Hi Debian users,

I have a problem:

I have a one factory in Mexico and I want to see what is 
happenning in any of the PCs (Window$ NT) that monitor 
PLCs (machines controling factories). I was at Brazil and
have another machine with NT. 

Can I put a Linux server at
the middle with redirect or something like this and use
VNC at the two ends?

I'm ataching a small postscript gzipped with an image because
one image means more than 1000 words.

Thanks to anyone in advance, Paulo Henrique


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Re: mounting a NTFS partition at boot time

2000-04-23 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Shao Zhang wrote:

> > Could you post the line in fstab?
>
> Here are a couple of lines from my fstab:
> #  
> # 
> [...]
> /dev/hda5   /vol/ntntfs   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  0
 ^

Wenn I do mount -a with that line in fstab I get:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5,
   or too many mounted file systems

Looks like mount chokes itself on the "errors=remount-ro"-option, which
makes kinda sense, because the NTFS driver in the 2.2 kernel is
read-only anyhow.  Leave defaults in the options field and everything
works fine.

MfG Viktor
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Greetings!

2000-04-23 Thread Andre Dreyer
Greetings

I am new to this list and hope to be here for a long time.  Just to
introduce myself, I am 20 y/o male from South Africa.  I am mainly a
Visual Basic programmer (Hold your tounges before commenting on MS).  I
played around a while back with Phat Linux but lost it with a hd crash.
I now am running Storm Linux 2000 and I must say it was quite a
exilirating experience installing  linux on it's own partition (seeing
as Phat runs on a dos partition).  I am a bit fed up with MS as I feel
strongly about learning from each other rather then trying to bully
everyone to get to #1 as that to me is not the meaning of life.

Well to get down to business, I really need a helping hand with Sound
card installation.  I have a Ess Es1869 Audiodrive card.  I have
allready done a pnpdump and edited the /etc/isapnp.conf file accordingly
(as far as I know it's correct).  The sound card still does not want to
work and the IRQ's isn't causing any errors.  I have a feeling I still
need to install some drivers.  If anyone has some suggestions about what
could be wrong and possibly tell me where I could find the drivers to
install I would appretiate it immensely.

Thank you

RavenCrow

"He who laughs at a question is not worth being asked in the first
place"



Re: odd ppp performance

2000-04-23 Thread Lee Bradshaw
On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 06:04:49PM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 11:51:35AM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote:
>> > mentor:# ping t99
>> > PING t99 t99.xxx.wa.edu.au (192.168.1.99): 56 data bytes
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254 time=7441.6 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=6459.8 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=254 time=5474.5 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=254 time=4517.5 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=254 time=3525.3 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=254 time=2532.6 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=254 time=1542.5 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=7 ttl=254 time=552.7 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=8 ttl=254 time=7996.1 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=9 ttl=254 time=7037.2 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=10 ttl=254 time=6061.9 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=11 ttl=254 time=5071.6 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=12 ttl=254 time=4077.2 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=13 ttl=254 time=3082.3 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=14 ttl=254 time=2108.0 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=15 ttl=254 time=1116.9 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=16 ttl=254 time=128.5 ms
>> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.99: icmp_seq=17 ttl=254 time=119.4 ms
> 
> This has occured with different Deb boxes and different ISPs.  Seems to me
> that it is either a ppp bug or a kernel bug but it has persisted over
> different versions of both.

It may be your isp. I've seen the problem where neither ppp nor the
kernel should have been involved.

At the time I was using an ethernet to ISDN router, so ppp wasn't
involved. The ISDN router was the default gateway, so I wasn't
bringing interfaces up and down and changing routes. The router would
bring up the isdn line if it saw traffic that needed to go off the local
net. If the connection got really slow I'd stop using it and/or force
the isdn connection to drop. If a brought it back up a couple minutes
later, everything was fine.

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Re: Upgrade failed

2000-04-23 Thread Lee Bradshaw
On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 05:26:56PM +1000, Bill wrote:
> Problem solved. found answer in archives (file attached)
> 
> many thanks to those who tried to help
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 

> On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 10:27:34PM -0600, Alberto Brealey G. wrote:
> > 
> > i've done a fresh install of slink (because i have the bootable CD lying
> > around...), and need to upgrade to potato/frozen. it does the apt-get update
> > fine (retrieves the package lists). when i try to dist-upgrade, it downloads
> > 13.7 MB fine, but when trying to install, it exits with:
> > 
> > E: Internal error, couldn't configure a pre-depend
> > 
> > does anyone knows what might be wrong? (I tried different mirrors on my
> > sources.list, they all did the same).
> 
> It's a circular pre-depends.  I'm appending my previous email on the
> subject.  I've seen a few posts that say my method works, but I still
> don't guarantee it :)
> 

This is the first message I've seen in this thread, but I thought I'd
point out that I had upgraded several systems from slink to potato
with the following commands:

  apt-get update
  apt-get -f dist-upgrade

-f   = fix broken dependencies
dist-upgrade = attempt to upgrade important packages at expense of
   less important ones if necessary

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Re: mounting a NTFS partition at boot time

2000-04-23 Thread Shao Zhang
Alan Sobey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Yes. I am runing 2.2.14, and compiled NTFS as a module, I have no
> > > > problem mounting it from command line. But putting it in fstab does not
> > > > work.
> > > 
> > > Could you post the line in fstab?
> > Here are a couple of lines from my fstab:
> > #  
> > # 
> > /dev/hda3   / ext2   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  1
> > /dev/hda5   /usr/localext2   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  1
> > /dev/hda6   /home ext2   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  1
> > /dev/hda1   /winntntfs   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  0
> 
> Check your man page for the options for ntfs - maybe your selected
> options aren't valid.  
Yes, I did check. NTFS is not there. But the manpage does mention that
any file system listed in /proc/filesystems should be supported, which
has got NTFS.

> Try "mount /winnt" from the console (i.e. let
> it try to read /etc/fstab, rather than typing in the full command
> manually) and hopefully errors will be reported to the console.
% sudo mount /winnt
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
   or too many mounted file systems

It seems to me it is still trying to mount it as an ext2 partition.

Regards,


Shao.
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Re: lpd troubles (can't enable lp2 lp3 spools)

2000-04-23 Thread W. Paul Mills

I have done this in the past, with no problem. I spooled
them all to the same directory, only the printer name and 
filter was different.


Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: My printcap specifies three printers: lp|lp1, lp2, and lp3 with spools
: in /var/spool/lpd/(lp1|lp2|lp3). These are all for the same printer on
: /dev/lp0, but with different options (draft, normal, best).

: While lp1's status is always OK, lp2 and lp3 are always disabled (as
: follows from `status' files in their spol directories). I can't figure
: out why.

: I tried using `lpc' command to `clean', `enable', and `start' the
: stubborn printers, but to no avail.

: ,[ Here's a round of `lpc's ]
: | tea:/etc# lpc clean lp2
: | lp2:
: | tea:/etc# lpc enable lp2
: | lp2:
: | queuing enabled
: | tea:/etc# cat /var/spool/lpd/lp2/status 
: | printing disabled
: | tea:/etc# lpc start lp2
: | lp2:
: | printing enabled
: | lpc: connect: Connection refused
: | couldn't start daemon
: `

: ,[ FWIW, here's my /etc/printcap ]
: | lp|lp1|HP Deskjet 697C Draft:\
: |   :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\
: |   :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
: |   :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-draft:\
: |   :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
: | 
: | lp2|HP Deskjet 697c Normal:\
: |   :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp2:\
: |   :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
: |   :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-normal:\
: |   :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
: | 
: | lp3|HP Deskjet 697c Best:\
: |   :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp3:\
: |   :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
: |   :if=/etc/hpdj/hpdj-best:\
: |   :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
: `

: Thanks for any ideas!!!
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Re: Upgrade failed

2000-04-23 Thread Bill

- Original Message -
From: "Lee Bradshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: Upgrade failed
> > >
> > > E: Internal error, couldn't configure a pre-depend
> > >
> > > does anyone knows what might be wrong? (I tried different mirrors on
my
> > > sources.list, they all did the same).
> >
> > It's a circular pre-depends.  I'm appending my previous email on the
> > subject.  I've seen a few posts that say my method works, but I still
> > don't guarantee it :)
> >
>
> This is the first message I've seen in this thread, but I thought I'd
> point out that I had upgraded several systems from slink to potato
> with the following commands:
>
>   apt-get update
>   apt-get -f dist-upgrade
>
> -f   = fix broken dependencies
> dist-upgrade = attempt to upgrade important packages at expense of
>less important ones if necessary
>

Tried that but still had the same errors, so I tried the other option and it
worked.
but as the was stated  "but I still don't guarantee it "


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Re: Greetings!

2000-04-23 Thread Vitux
Andre Dreyer wrote:
> 
> Greetings
> 
> I am new to this list and hope to be here for a long time.  Just to
> introduce myself, I am 20 y/o male from South Africa.  I am mainly a
> Visual Basic programmer (Hold your tounges before commenting on MS).  I
> played around a while back with Phat Linux but lost it with a hd crash.
> I now am running Storm Linux 2000 and I must say it was quite a
> exilirating experience installing  linux on it's own partition (seeing
> as Phat runs on a dos partition).  I am a bit fed up with MS as I feel
> strongly about learning from each other rather then trying to bully
> everyone to get to #1 as that to me is not the meaning of life.
> 
> Well to get down to business, I really need a helping hand with Sound
> card installation.  I have a Ess Es1869 Audiodrive card.  I have
> allready done a pnpdump and edited the /etc/isapnp.conf file accordingly
> (as far as I know it's correct).  The sound card still does not want to
> work and the IRQ's isn't causing any errors.  I have a feeling I still
> need to install some drivers.  If anyone has some suggestions about what
> could be wrong and possibly tell me where I could find the drivers to
> install I would appretiate it immensely.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> RavenCrow
> 
> "He who laughs at a question is not worth being asked in the first
> place"
> 
> --
Welcome to Debian!
You need to compile a new(er?!) kernel with support for sound.
IIRC, there's some ess-options when configuring the kernel
(running 2.2.14). There's a Sound-Howto here:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO.html
and an index to howto's here:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/
It's really quite easy, though it may take some time on a slow
machine (4-5hours on a 486/100, ~10mins on a PII-350).
Good Luck!
HTH
Vitux
 
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swiftly changing as a baby's mood...


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Re: Greetings!

2000-04-23 Thread ktb
Andre Dreyer wrote:
> 
> Greetings
> 
> I am new to this list and hope to be here for a long time.  Just to
> introduce myself, I am 20 y/o male from South Africa.  I am mainly a
> Visual Basic programmer (Hold your tounges before commenting on MS).  I
> played around a while back with Phat Linux but lost it with a hd crash.
> I now am running Storm Linux 2000 and I must say it was quite a
> exilirating experience installing  linux on it's own partition (seeing
> as Phat runs on a dos partition).  I am a bit fed up with MS as I feel
> strongly about learning from each other rather then trying to bully
> everyone to get to #1 as that to me is not the meaning of life.
> 
> Well to get down to business, I really need a helping hand with Sound
> card installation.  I have a Ess Es1869 Audiodrive card.  I have
> allready done a pnpdump and edited the /etc/isapnp.conf file accordingly
> (as far as I know it's correct).  The sound card still does not want to
> work and the IRQ's isn't causing any errors.  I have a feeling I still
> need to install some drivers.  If anyone has some suggestions about what
> could be wrong and possibly tell me where I could find the drivers to
> install I would appretiate it immensely.

If your sound card is supported you will have to recompile the kernel
and select it there.
hth,
kent


How do I use non-US in apt-move?

2000-04-23 Thread Brian Greenfield
Can anyone tell me the values of SECTIONS & NONUSSITE that I
should use in apt-move.conf that will match my sources.list:

|deb http://zippy/debianfrozen main contrib non-free
|deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debianfrozen main contrib non-free
|deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian/non-US frozen non-US/main non-US/contrib 
non-US/non-free

I've tried every combination I can think of, but currently
apt-move.conf contains:

|SECTIONS="main contrib non-free non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free"
|USSITE=www.uk.debian.org
|NONUSSITE=www.uk.debian.org/non-US

Which works OK for US but not for non-US.

$Id: apt-move, v3.0 1999/08/20 22:03:18 ironfoot Exp $
apt 0.3.18 for i386 compiled on Feb 13 2000  01:58:55


Re: mounting a NTFS partition at boot time

2000-04-23 Thread Alan Sobey
I'm running Mandrake 7.0 (will switch to Debian when potato goes
final) so kernel was obviously compiled different and YMMV, but at the
end of this mail is the NTFS section from my manpage.  I've no NTFS
partitions at the moment (here at home) so I can't test anything.

In work (Mandrake 6.1), this is my NTFS entry (which works fine):
/dev/hda1 /mnt/winnt  ntfsuser,exec,ro0 0

You could also perhaps use the -s argument (sloppy mount). i.e. Ignore
unrecognised options rather than failing.

hth,
Alan.

Mount options for ntfs
   iocharset=name
  Character set to use  when  returning  file  names.
  Unlike  VFAT,  NTFS  suppresses  names that contain
  unconvertible characters.

   utf8   Use UTF-8 for converting file names.

   uni_xlate=[0|1|2]
  For 0 (or `no'  or  `false')  or  1  (or  `yes'  or
  `true'): use the VFAT-style encoding for file names
  outside the current character set.  A  value  of  2
  will disable the encoding with ":".

   posix=[0|1]
  If enabled (posix=1), the file system distinguishes
  between upper and lower case. The 8.3  alias  names
  pressed.

   uid=value, gid=value and umask=value
  Set the file  permission  on  the  filesystem.   By
  default,  the files are owned by root and not read
  are  presented  as hard links instead of being sup
  pressed.

   uid=value, gid=value and umask=value
  Set the file  permission  on  the  filesystem.   By
  able by somebody else.
  default,  the files are owned by root and not read
  able by somebody else.










sawmill problem

2000-04-23 Thread Jan Pfeifer
hi all,

I've just installed the Sawmill 0.25.2-1 package, but sawmill won't
run, and keep mumbling

"error--> (invalid-function (macro . #))"

to me, each time I run :)

if I run it with the "--interp" option it seems to run, but without
the menus and don't know what else -- I've never used it.

please, help!!

thanks a lot for any hint,

jan



Re: mp3

2000-04-23 Thread Carlos Bustamante G.
You can try also `amp -convert file.mp3 file.wav' or mpg123 and sox

carlosb


RE: crypto patch

2000-04-23 Thread Andrew Weiss
Title: RE: crypto patch








hesitant to put it in by default.  Who knows, maybe some other
distirbution does?  Bastille Linux?


[Andrew Weiss]  
So would you run this OS on a headless server? :-)


Epitaph for Bill Gates: "This man performed an illegal operation and was shut down" --BBC
SGI and Motorola team up to design a new chip... the Crayola --personal

Apple MacOS X the only UNIX where dumping cores is a good thing. --personal





Re: hello, my friends

2000-04-23 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
[please do not use HTML in email]

On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 19:49:14 +0800, james tsang wrote:
>I found it in develop tools , thanks very much.
>
>and I post it here let other like me can find it.
>
>[1]http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RP
>MS/apache-devel-1.3.12-10mdk.i586.html

For Debian, it's available in the "apache-dev" package.

Ray
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Re: VNC question

2000-04-23 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 2000-04-23 09:27:46, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:

> I have a one factory in Mexico and I want to see what is 
> happenning in any of the PCs (Window$ NT) that monitor 
> PLCs (machines controling factories). I was at Brazil and
> have another machine with NT. 
> 
> Can I put a Linux server at
> the middle with redirect or something like this and use
> VNC at the two ends?

VNC required network connectivity between the client and server
(obviously) and you could use any device capable of routing.  So, that
would be yes.

You might find that the network+vnc latency is killing you though.
Alternatives is looking at application data perhaps async such as log
files, emails etc.  If your NT app doesn't have log files, write a
macro that opens the "status screen" dump that to a file and emails it
to you.


/Allan
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can't install debian!

2000-04-23 Thread Arie



Dear reader,
 
I tried to install debian and everything looks oke 
after installation.
The program asks to reboot and then it goes 
wrong!.
the program stops with the message calculatin 
module dependencies ... 
this will stay for ever on the screen. Do you 
have any sugestion .
thanks anyway.
 
Arie


Upgrade to 500MHz and patching

2000-04-23 Thread John

At 21:16 16/04/00 +0100, you wrote:

Yes.  You need to get the sources for 2.2.14 (either download it
afresh or patch 2.2.12) and then patch to bring it up to 2.2.15pre9.
Then you build the kernel in whatever way you do usually (either use
Debian's system or build it conventionally, as you wish).


I'm now completely confused, and wonder if you can help further. My
earlier attempts at patching were unsuccessful, so I've devoted some
time to try to get somewhere this time.

Initially, I easily patched to 2.2.14 by using '# tar zxpvf kernel-source-
2.2.12.tar gz' (from /usr/src) to unpack and then applying each patch
by '# zcat patch-2.2.xx.gz | patch -p0'. There were no anomalies. ( I ran
'# find /usr/src/linux -follow -name "*.rej" -print' to confirm this).

For practice, I compiled 2.2.14 and everthing was fine.

I was puzzled, however, by the fact that the unpacking created the
directory /usr/src/linux instead of /usr/src/kernel-source-x.x.xx. I thought
the latter was correct for Debian. But since I had a kernel I could compile,
I continued. (My earlier unpackings gave me the kernel-source directories).

Trying to patch 2.2.15-1pre from /usr/src gave me an error message
'can't find file to patch at input line 4. ? wrong -p or --strip option ...' .
I used -p1 with the same result. I put the patch inside /usr/src/linux and
found that '# zcat pre-patch--2.2.15-1.gz' | patch -p1' worked. I don't
understand why this should work.

Should be plain sailing now I assumed. No, I cannot apply any
further pre-patches without many errors. The most common one being
'patching file e.g. 'CREDITS' reversed or previously applied patch
detected!. Assume -R? [n] ' .  I continued hitting , presumably
this accepted the default option offered, but it merely left a large number
of .rej entries.

In case I had downloaded a faulty pre-patch file, a downloaded again
and merely got the same error messages.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I've read everything I can find, but
nothing helps. At 70 and with no basic computer knowledge I find it
difficult to comprehend the import of some 'man' and 'info' pages. All
the textbooks I have give no examples which help and the error
message tend to be covered by saying 'make sure you have no errors
- if you do, fix them'.

I'd like to see if pre-patching will eradicate the shut-down problem, but
there is no hurry as I have the work-around of rebooting into W95. Getting
to understand more about patching now becomes more of a priority. (In
the final analysis I could always try a 2.3 kernel - I don't mind reinstalling
Slink should that become necessary).

Grateful if you or anyone can push me a little further in the right
direction.

Regards, John.



> By the way, there seems no BIOS upgrade to cover this problem, so
> that's not an option.

It could be this won't fix it either.  It may be something quite
different (memory isn't impossible, as someone else suggested).
However, it won't hurt to try this: it's a problem that seems to
affect quite a few Super-7 motherboards.




3 Questions ONLY.

2000-04-23 Thread José María Pongilioni López
1:
When I connect to the Internet in Linux, 'xconsole' shows the following
message:
ppp-compress-1 module not found
I have compiled and installed Kernel 2.2.5 for Linux (Debian 'slink').
The PPP driver was compiled as a module.  Is this correct?

2:
I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.6 (downloaded from the STORM
distribution), and I have memory problems: I have 64 MB RAM and
40 MB swap space on '/dev/hda3'.
When Netscape locks, and I reopen it, the swap space is liberated only
If I restart X entirely. Why? Is there any way to do this manually?
I use version 4.6, because 4.5 issues too many problems (almost memory
problems). 4.6 from STORM is more stable than Debian's. Do you? Note
that I use KDE 1.1.2 as window manager (bites memory).

3:
I'm using Kernel 2.2.5, because I have a SoundBlaster 64 PCI soundcard.
I have enabled the sound support and driver in the kernel directly, and
I have made the devices 'audio*' 'dsp*' 'mixer*' and 'sequencer*, and
'midi*'. I have no MIDI support. Why?
May Kernel 2.2.5 issues problems? I have read that 2.2.x are dangerous
for some systems.

Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks, very much for your support.


General Protection Fault

2000-04-23 Thread Ron Rademaker
How do I solve a General Protection Fault (Oops = 0002), I get it when I
boot with the rescue disk, when trying to install (right after mounting
the root filesystem (RAM)) it gives the errors, and ends with: Aiee,
killing the interrupt handler
If you need more information, I wrote all the output down so I can post it
if that would help you...

The system started giving general protection faults after I upgraded it
(general protection faults both in linux as in windows) from a P166 with
32 M to a amd k6-2 533 with 128 M.

HELP!!!

Ron Rademaker




Re: VNC question

2000-04-23 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
All the programs running at NT are Visual Basic programs monitoring the PLC
with graphs and such.
My doubt is how to differ one computer from another with VNC?
Thanks,Paulo Henrique
"Allan M. Wind" wrote:

> On 2000-04-23 09:27:46, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:
>
> > I have a one factory in Mexico and I want to see what is
> > happenning in any of the PCs (Window$ NT) that monitor
> > PLCs (machines controling factories). I was at Brazil and
> > have another machine with NT.
> >
> > Can I put a Linux server at
> > the middle with redirect or something like this and use
> > VNC at the two ends?
>
> VNC required network connectivity between the client and server
> (obviously) and you could use any device capable of routing.  So, that
> would be yes.
>
> You might find that the network+vnc latency is killing you though.
> Alternatives is looking at application data perhaps async such as log
> files, emails etc.  If your NT app doesn't have log files, write a
> macro that opens the "status screen" dump that to a file and emails it
> to you.
>
> /Allan
> --
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> P.O. Box 2022   finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GPG/PGP)
> Woburn, MA 01888-0022   icq: 44214251
> USA phone: 781.279.4513

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Brazil




/dev/null: permission denied - problem

2000-04-23 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hello!

At least since I mixed my slink system with potato packages (glibc 2.1) a
couple of months before, I have a problem with /dev/null. Firstly, lprng
reported at startup: "setuplog: open /dev/null failed: permission denied" (I
"fixed" it by installing lpr which does not complain about it), and now
since I installed exim correctly, I always get mails like this one:

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Apr 23 20:38:01 2000
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from root by PENTIUMDIOXID with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian))
 id 12jRGa-PD-00
 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:38:00 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   if [ -x /usr/sbin/exim -a -f
/etc/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q >/dev/null 2>&1; fi
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
X-Cron-Env: 
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:38:00 +0200

/bin/sh: /dev/null: Permission denied

Has anyone experienced this problem and can help me, please?

Kind Regards,

Stephan Hachinger


Problems w/installation

2000-04-23 Thread Dulan Tevesh
I'm having a few problems with installing Debian 2.1 on a Laptop. The first 
time, it initially went through the installation process without any 
problems, however, it then proceeded to freeze and crash once it prompted 
for drivers to install, and I selected them. Now, I cannot wipe/reformat the 
partitions, and I cannot begin the installation process again, it giving me 
a "Loading.Boot failed" error.


Any help would be immensely appreciated with this.

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Re: /dev/null: permission denied - problem

2000-04-23 Thread Arcady Genkin
"Stephan Hachinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> /bin/sh: /dev/null: Permission denied

Well, have you actually looked what the permissions to /dev/null look
like? "ls -l /dev/null".

They should be crw-rw-rw- root.root.
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Re: Plextor CD-ROM (was: cd-rom jitter)

2000-04-23 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 07:26:15PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:

> Eventually the CD-ROM extracts everything perfectly, but those ":-|"
> have been annoying me. I have a feeling that the CDROM's firmware
> might be buggy. I got this 12/20 Plex a year ago (retail box). When I

you might try a firmware upgrade, you can get it at their webside
(www.plextor.be). There even seems to be a free-third-party linux
flash program!

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Re: Upgrade to 500MHz and patching

2000-04-23 Thread Bruce Stephens
John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

> I was puzzled, however, by the fact that the unpacking created the
> directory /usr/src/linux instead of /usr/src/kernel-source-x.x.xx. I
> thought the latter was correct for Debian. But since I had a kernel
> I could compile, I continued. (My earlier unpackings gave me the
> kernel-source directories).

I don't how the source tree becomes /usr/src/kernel-source-xxx either.
The official (Linus) kernels unpack into linux (so you'd unpack them
into /usr/src/linux, typically).  Somehow Debian repackages the
process, but I don't know how.  I don't think it matters for the
moment.

> Trying to patch 2.2.15-1pre from /usr/src gave me an error message
> 'can't find file to patch at input line 4. ? wrong -p or --strip option ...' .
> I used -p1 with the same result. I put the patch inside /usr/src/linux and
> found that '# zcat pre-patch--2.2.15-1.gz' | patch -p1' worked. I don't
> understand why this should work.

Alan seems to have produced the patches by diffing between two
directories linux.vanilla and linux.15p9 (for pre9).  So for most of
us, a patch from /usr/src won't work (since we won't have a directory
called linux.vanilla---nor do we want one).  The best option is, as
you did, to go into the linux directory, and use -p1 (to ignore the
linux.vanilla part of the filenames).

> Should be plain sailing now I assumed. No, I cannot apply any
> further pre-patches without many errors. The most common one being
> 'patching file e.g. 'CREDITS' reversed or previously applied patch
> detected!. Assume -R? [n] ' .  I continued hitting , presumably
> this accepted the default option offered, but it merely left a large number
> of .rej entries.

The prepatches are different from the patches between real released
versions (like 2.2.12 to 2.2.13): each one includes all the previous
changes.  Thus, to get from 2.2.14 to 2.2.15-pre15 (or whatever the
latest prepatch is), you just need a 2.2.14 source tree and the
2.2.15-pre15 patch.



Re: /dev/null: permission denied - problem (solved)

2000-04-23 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hello!

Thanks for your quick replies. I already thought of this solution, but mc
did not let me chmod the null device, and so I thought there is no
possibility of chmod for the /dev files. I think it's solved now.

Kind Regards,

Stephan Hachinger


Re: Plextor CD-ROM (was: cd-rom jitter)

2000-04-23 Thread Arcady Genkin
Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 07:26:15PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> 
> > Eventually the CD-ROM extracts everything perfectly, but those ":-|"
> > have been annoying me. I have a feeling that the CDROM's firmware
> > might be buggy. I got this 12/20 Plex a year ago (retail box). When I
> 
> you might try a firmware upgrade, you can get it at their webside
> (www.plextor.be). There even seems to be a free-third-party linux
> flash program!

Really? That's pretty cool!..
Unfortunately, this drive's firmaware cannot be flashed, as far as I
know.
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Re: Woody

2000-04-23 Thread John Galt

from potato
sed -e s/frozen/unstable/ /etc/apt/sources.list
sed -e s/potato/woody/ /etc/apt/sources.list

from slink
sed -e s/unstable/stable/ /etc/apt/sources.list
sed -e s/slink/woody/ /etc/apt/sources.list

from hamm
mke2fs /dev/hda and get some bootfloppies

On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Bill wrote:

> Can someone please tell me what is required in  "/etc/apt/sources.list"
> to upgrade to "woody"
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
>*
> The Mind is like a parachute;
>it works much better when it's open.
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: Woody

2000-04-23 Thread John Galt

sorry to reply to my own message, but the keyboard demon struck again :(


On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, John Galt wrote:

> 
> from potato
> sed -e s/frozen/unstable/ /etc/apt/sources.list
> sed -e s/potato/woody/ /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> from slink
> sed -e s/unstable/stable/ /etc/apt/sources.list

should be:
sed -e s/stable/unstable/ /etc/apt/sources.list

> sed -e s/slink/woody/ /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> from hamm
> mke2fs /dev/hda and get some bootfloppies
> 
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Bill wrote:
> 
> > Can someone please tell me what is required in  "/etc/apt/sources.list"
> > to upgrade to "woody"
> > 
> > Thanks in advance
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >*
> > The Mind is like a parachute;
> >it works much better when it's open.
> >*
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
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> 
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Re: mounting a NTFS partition at boot time

2000-04-23 Thread Ross Boylan
I have had no problem using NTFS from potato, though my initial install was 
from boot floppies 2.2.8 (roughly).  Have you checked with lsmod that the 
NTFS module is actually installed in the running kernel?


Also, try deleting the fstab line and typing it again--maybe some odd 
character got in there.


At 07:12 AM 4/23/00, Shao Zhang wrote:

Alan Sobey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Yes. I am runing 2.2.14, and compiled NTFS as a module, I have no
> > > > problem mounting it from command line. But putting it in fstab 
does not

> > > > work.
> > >
> > > Could you post the line in fstab?
> > Here are a couple of lines from my fstab:
> > #  
> > # 
> > /dev/hda3   / ext2   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  1
> > /dev/hda5   /usr/localext2   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  1
> > /dev/hda6   /home ext2   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  1
> > /dev/hda1   /winntntfs   defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  0
>
> Check your man page for the options for ntfs - maybe your selected
> options aren't valid.
Yes, I did check. NTFS is not there. But the manpage does mention that
any file system listed in /proc/filesystems should be supported, which
has got NTFS.

> Try "mount /winnt" from the console (i.e. let
> it try to read /etc/fstab, rather than typing in the full command
> manually) and hopefully errors will be reported to the console.
% sudo mount /winnt
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
   or too many mounted file systems

It seems to me it is still trying to mount it as an ext2 partition.

Regards,


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Re: VNC question

2000-04-23 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 2000-04-23 18:06:22, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:

> All the programs running at NT are Visual Basic programs
> monitoring the PLC with graphs and such.
> My doubt is how to differ one computer from another with VNC?

You specify a IP/hostname to the vnc client, if that is what you are
asking.  Perhaps, you want to install vnc on a couple of computers and
play with it before you put too solid plans in place.


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Re: How do I use non-US in apt-move?

2000-04-23 Thread Brian Greenfield
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:59:11 +0100, Brian Greenfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Can anyone tell me the values of SECTIONS & NONUSSITE that I
>should use in apt-move.conf that will match my sources.list:

I've now done what I should have done before posting:-(

This has already been filed as a bug against apt-move.


Newbie installation questions

2000-04-23 Thread David Jenkins
Hi all!

I just successfully installed Debian 2.1 on a separate 2 Gbyte hard drive on my 
Intel PC.  The installation process went quite smoothly, especially for me, a 
Linux-newbie.  Kudos to the Debian team for an excellent release!  Whoever has 
worked on this has done an excellent job.  The price was pretty good too--$12 
from Linux Systems Labs for 4 CD's (2 source code and 2 binaries).

I do have several questions I'd appreciate some help with:

1. I need to keep Windows98 on the primary 12 Gbyte hard drive, and would like 
to boot Debian from a floppy.  (That way, the rest of the family won't even 
know Linux is on our machine, until I get everything working properly.)  I 
created a boot floppy during installation, and when I boot the system with it 
in the floppy drive, Debian does indeed come up, but it takes a very long time. 
 Is it possible to set up the boot floppy so that the system does boot from it, 
but once it does, transfers to the Linux kernal on the hard drive (/dev/hdb1)?  
Is that a sensible question?

2. My installation does not recognize the Linux "man" command.  How can I 
install it, and the man pages for system commands?

3. How can I mount my Win98 FAT32 partition on startup?  It mounts fine after 
Linux boots up if I enter the command "mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt/win98".

4. When I boot Linux, I get a message about hdb1, the Linux hard drive on my 
system, not having been cleanly unmounted.  How do I shut down Linux so that 
the Linux partition is cleanly unmounted?

5. I've installed release 4.0 of XFree86, and run xf86config.  When I enter 
"startx", I get the message "xinit: error in loading shared libraries.  
libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory".  I can 
"find" libXmu.so.6 in directory /usr/X11R6/lib.  How do I tell the system where 
this file is located?

I know this is basic stuff, and I'd be very grateful for any & all help getting 
myself going.

David Jenkins
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Re: Newbie installation questions

2000-04-23 Thread Eric Hagglund
  Is
> it possible to set up the boot floppy so that the
> system does boot from it, but once it does,
> transfers to the Linux kernal on the hard drive
> (/dev/hdb1)?  Is that a sensible question?
Sure! As soon as the floppy goes to the LILO prompt,
you have a couple of seconds in which to pass boot
options. This is where you need to type the parameters
for the kernel you need to boot (see the Installation
HOW TO which should be in your machine on
usr/doc/HOWTO; I'd love to give you the details on how
this is done, but I've never done this myself and you
asked a bunch of other questions to which I do have
more exact answers)
> 2. My installation does not recognize the Linux
> "man" command.  How can I install it, and the man
> pages for system commands?

The presence or absence of man commands should be
determined by the options you choose for documentation
at the time of the install. Are you getting "no man
page exists for (command) or are you getting "command
not found". If the former, check dselect for the
desired documention. If the latter, you probably need
to retrace your steps in installing the software.

> 3. How can I mount my Win98 FAT32 partition on
> startup?  It mounts fine after Linux boots up if I
> enter the command "mount -t msdos /dev/hda1
> /mnt/win98".
You can mount your fat partition at startup by
inserting the text above into two files in the /etc
directory. These are respectively mtab and fstab.
Again, the instructions for this can be accessed from
the  HOWTOs that should be present on your hard drive
under usr/doc/HOWTO or, assuming that you were able to
get a standard install with X Windows, you should also
be able to get to this by clicking on your start menu
- applications - tools - Debian On Line Help or, try
http://www.linux.org/help/ldp/howto/howto.html
> 4. When I boot Linux, I get a message about hdb1,
> the Linux hard drive on my system, not having been
> cleanly unmounted.  How do I shut down Linux so that
> the Linux partition is cleanly unmounted?
If you are in X, pull up an xterm session by clicking
on the picture of the monitor. If you want to safely
shut down your system type :

shutdown now -h

This will shut down and halt your system.

If you want to reboot to Windows type: 

shutdown now -r

This will shut down linux and reboot your system. It's
very important that you properly shutdown your machine
properly. This is one area where Linux and Windows
differ greatly. If files are left open before Linux
has a chance to write them to disk, they can be
corrupted. If this happens to a crucial system files
or the partition table, you could be looking at a
major problem.
> 5. I've installed release 4.0 of XFree86, and run
> xf86config.  When I enter "startx", I get the
> message "xinit: error in loading shared libraries. 
> libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such
> file or directory".  I can "find" libXmu.so.6 in
> directory /usr/X11R6/lib.  How do I tell the system
> where this file is located?

I'm not sure how to fix this problem and will defer to
those more knowlegable on the fix (you probably need
to edit inittab to run startx by default or
something); but a workaround in the short run would be
to try starting X by typing xdm at the command prompt.
You will need to be logged in as root to do this, but
it will take you to a graphical login where you can
use your own (safer) user id. You might also have wdm,
which I prefer because there are more options
available. 
 
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SVGA Text Mode & ATI Charger video card

2000-04-23 Thread John Anderson
Hello,

Has anyone been successful at configuring an ATI Charger video card to use
SVGA text mode?  I can get it to work at a generic "VGA", but only at
80x25.  I have tried ATI mach64, but It doesn't recognize the card as
being that.  The resolution I want is 132 columns by 40 rows.

Any suggestions?


dhcpcd and/or dhclient and NYC road runner

2000-04-23 Thread David Aronchick

Hi--

I've found a number of people mention this problem in the archives, but no 
answers listed.  I'm running kernel 2.2.14 and the most recent package of 
dhcpcd (0.70-karn) and I get this error back all the time:


ioctl SIOCSIFBRDADDR (ifConfig): Cannot assign requested address

on a /usr/sbin/dhcpcd -d
All the other computers (mac and win2k) can get their ips just fine, and if 
i set the ip manually on this box, it works fine.  It had 2 ethernet cards, 
but I removed one after hearing that dhcpcd doesn't work well with two 
cards.  This box worked great on the t1.  Everything else is pretty 
standard.  Please email me directly, as I'm not on the list.  Thanks!