Gnome default dir is /usr/src

[Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella]

Hi,

I installed gnome in my computer, and, I don't know why, every program
that I start within the gnome-panel has the current dir = "/usr/src".

I could find no reason, and no documentation about it.

Anyone knows what's going on?

Debian Gnu/Linux 2.0.35 slink Pentium

gnome-panel 0.30-2

Thanks in advance.

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unix98 pty system

[Jonathan P Tomer]

i'm about to switch to kernel 2.2.0pre6, and in the configuration i saw that i
can use the unix98 pty system rather than the old ptyxx/ttyxx. if i do this,
will important things (i.e. xterm, incoming telnets) break?

--jonathan 'phouchg' tomer

Re: Windows95 and Linux Installation

[Ed Boraas]

On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Michael Stenner wrote:

>Don't know too much about this, but it seems odd to jump from hdb1 to
>hdb5 with no 2,3,4 in between.  However, if it is working so far, it's

hdb5 is the first extended partition number. hdb1 is the primary
partition, hdb2 is an extended partition (no space for data), and hdb5 is
the first [logical] partition inside of hdb2.

now you know :)

-ed

Re: unix98 pty system

[Ed Boraas]

On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Jonathan P Tomer wrote:

>i'm about to switch to kernel 2.2.0pre6, and in the configuration i saw that i
>can use the unix98 pty system rather than the old ptyxx/ttyxx. if i do this,
>will important things (i.e. xterm, incoming telnets) break?

IIRC, the unix98 pty system support is for use with glibc2.1 only (not
glibc2.0, which most distros, debian included, use). I believe it mentions
this in the config help.

-ed

Re: what cd-writer ?

[Stephen Pitts]

On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:57:08PM -0500, Odin wrote:
> > I want to buy a cd-writer. I don't need rewritable support at present
> > time, but it would be a plus.
> > I've seen a new Yamaha model that's affordable. Are they good and well
> > supported with Linux ?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> 
> If you found a yamaha model that's affordable, _Get_it!_  Those are
> excellent machines.  They are closely followed in quality by Philips and
> HP if you see those, you might want to look into them as well.  see
> www.goldenhawk.com/support/faq.htm has a very useful list detailing
> problems with firmware version numbers on various models, so check that
> list before buying anything, but basically everything yamaha makes anymore
> is excellent.  The site is for a Windows program, but still contains very
> valid information for linux as it is mostly hardware info.
> 
> Also, IMHO, a SCSI writer is vastly superior to an IDE.  In general, they
> support more modes, can be external (so if for some reason it refuses to
> eject a disc--I've had that happen--you can power-cycle the driver w/o
> losing your uptime).  There are many other reasons such as stability, but
> since I don't fully understand those reasons, I won't pretent to talk
> about them.
> 
> Linux w/ cdrecord supports most if not all yamaha/philips/hp drives.  The
> philips CDD-522 (I think) driver is the one I use on my CDD-2600 and it
> works fine for other philips models too (AFAIK all of them).  Yamaha
> drivers are likely the same, so don't despair if you don't find your exact
> model.  I'd call yamaha and ask them if the drive is supported in unix
> cdrecord before buying.
> 
> Good luck!
> (subliminal message --- psst.. buy the yamaha)
> 
> 
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> 
Can you recommend an inexpensive PCI SCSI card to go with a Yamaha? Right now, 
I have two ATAPI hard drives and an ATAPI DVD drive connected to a motherboard 
IDE controller. I was planning on purchasing a HP ATAPI drive, but after 
hearing about several bad experiences with ATAPI drives, I'm interested in a 
SCSI-based external one. 
-- 
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Re: unix98 pty system

[Jonathan P Tomer]

ok, so if i grab glibc2.1 i can use unix98 ptys? or will everything break on
glibc2.1?

--phouchg

kernel messages

[Sanzo Miyazawa]

Does anyone understand what caused the following error messages?

I was running the following script on my system, which
reads file names and check whether thse files in a directory exist.
This directory includes a lot of files, more than 5000.

#! /bin/sh
while read f
do
if [ ! -f $f -o ! -s $f ] ; then
echo $f
fi
done

While this script runs, the system almost always hangs
by printing the following messages on console.

Problem: block on freelist at02750310 isn't free.
IRQ DEADLOCK DETECTED BY CPU 0.
Kernel panic: FORWARDED INTERRUPT TIMEOUT (AKP = 0, saved AKP = 1)
Kernel panic: FORWARDED INTERRUPT TIMEOUT (AKP = 0, saved AKP = 255)

 In /var/log/kern.log

Out of memory for galign-SF-SF-i..
Problem: block on freelist at 02750310 isn't free.
 In /var/log/syslog
Problem: block on freelist at 02750310 isn't free.


(In other cases, I got 
1. Kernel panic: CPU #0:Attempted flush tlb IPI whennot AKP(=255) 

2. Problem: block on freelist at 01ba8d90 isn't free.
)

My questions are

1. Is this kernel's problem or is there some trouble in hardware?

2. Why are these error messages not output in /var/log/syslog?

In /etc/syslog.conf

*.*;auth,authpriv.none  /var/log/syslog




My system is

Hardware: Tyan Tiger2, Pentium II 333Mhz x 2
  SDRAM with ECC

OS: kernel-source-2.0.36-1
+ 2.0.37-pre-patch-3.gz

Debian 2.0

Re: Gnome default dir is /usr/src

[Will Lowe]

> I installed gnome in my computer, and, I don't know why, every program
> that I start within the gnome-panel has the current dir = "/usr/src".

Similarly,  the slink version starts everything in /etc.  Boy,  is that a
pain in emacs.

Will


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Re: kernel messages

[Sanzo Miyazawa]

I forgot to say:

If this script is run on another pc with the same os,
( Tyan Titan Pro, Pentium Pro 200Mhz x 2, FastPage with parity) 

there is always no problem.


>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 22 10:22:53 1999

>Does anyone understand what caused the following error messages?
>
>I was running the following script on my system, which
>reads file names and check whether thse files in a directory exist.
>This directory includes a lot of files, more than 5000.
>
>   #! /bin/sh
>   while read f
>   do
>   if [ ! -f $f -o ! -s $f ] ; then
>   echo $f
>   fi
>   done
>
>While this script runs, the system almost always hangs
>by printing the following messages on console.
>
>   Problem: block on freelist at02750310 isn't free.
>   IRQ DEADLOCK DETECTED BY CPU 0.
>   Kernel panic: FORWARDED INTERRUPT TIMEOUT (AKP = 0, saved AKP = 1)
>   Kernel panic: FORWARDED INTERRUPT TIMEOUT (AKP = 0, saved AKP = 255)
>
> In /var/log/kern.log
>
>   Out of memory for galign-SF-SF-i..
>   Problem: block on freelist at 02750310 isn't free.
> In /var/log/syslog
>   Problem: block on freelist at 02750310 isn't free.
>
>
>(In other cases, I got 
>   1. Kernel panic: CPU #0:Attempted flush tlb IPI whennot AKP(=255) 
>
>   2. Problem: block on freelist at 01ba8d90 isn't free.
>)
>
>My questions are
>
>1. Is this kernel's problem or is there some trouble in hardware?
>
>2. Why are these error messages not output in /var/log/syslog?
>
>   In /etc/syslog.conf
>
>   *.*;auth,authpriv.none  /var/log/syslog
>
>
>
>
>My system is
>
>Hardware: Tyan Tiger2, Pentium II 333Mhz x 2
> SDRAM with ECC
>
>OS:kernel-source-2.0.36-1
>   + 2.0.37-pre-patch-3.gz
>
>   Debian 2.0
>
>

Re: what cd-writer ?

[Daniel J. Brosemer]

> On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:57:08PM -0500, Odin wrote:



> Can you recommend an inexpensive PCI SCSI card to go with a Yamaha? Right
> now, I have two ATAPI hard drives and an ATAPI DVD drive connected to a
> motherboard IDE controller. I was planning on purchasing a HP ATAPI
> drive, but after hearing about several bad experiences with ATAPI
> drives, I'm interested in a SCSI-based external one. 

Well, I can't in good conscience reccommend anything but an adaptec.  I've
heard (but not experienced) that a zip-plus will erase data on a scsi hdd
when not connected to an adaptec.  There are other reasons, though, like
support, speed, _very_ nice bios, etc.  You'll pay for the niceness, but
in my opinion, well worth it.  If you're planning on just using your CD-R
on your SCSI chain, then you don't need Ultra Wide or even SCSI-3, just
get yourself a good SCSI-2 (you don't even need that, but room to expand
is good, and good luck finding a Narrow SCSI-1 anymore.)  If you're not
buying for a corporation, my suggestion would be to watch the online
auctions, sometimes they have adaptec cards.

-Dan

Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

[Andreas Sliwka]

Steve Lamb wrote:
> 
> I don't know, I think if there were a language to start newbies out on,
> it is perl.  Don't have to worry about many of the things that other
> languages force upon you yet gives you a good gounding in how those other
> languages work.

Heaven, no!
  
I think its quite a sinn to give perl to a newbie, perl corrupts. I use
Perl since two years and I quite like it, but only because I can choose
to use either imperative or oop thinking in perl and I dont have to
every variable.

And thats the reason why a newbie should start with a a structured
language like java (oop), pascal (imperative) or scheme
(functional/lists oriented), so she/he learns to order hers/his thoughts
and get a habit of problem solving. Perl gives you every opportunity to
everything in one or two or in any other way, and I don't think that
this is a good start in programming ...

soryy, my 2 euros

mfg 

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Re: Lilo corrupted double-spaced Win95 drive

[Laurent PICOULEAU]

Hi,

On Thu, 21 Jan, 1999 à 01:46:03PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> This isn't exactly a Debian question, but maybe you can help.
[snip] 
> So I went back and reconfigured lilo.conf so that one or two of the lines
> that were referring to hdb1 now referred to hda1. (I don't have the
  
No !!! You should have put hda, not hda1 for boot.

> Upon reboot, lilo came up and gave me my options of linux or Win95, and
> linux starts just fine. Win95 however does a repeating "Loading Windows,
> LILO, Loading Windows, LILO ".
> 
It's what you've asked in lilo.conf : 
the windows option in it ask to load the boot sector of /dev/hda1 so lilo
load it an execute it. But it contains lilo...

> Does anyone know how I can recover my Win95 partition so my family can have
> their toy back?
> 
boot linux, look in /boot. If you have the file boot.0301 do as follow :
dd if=/boot/boot.0301 of=/dev/hda1 bs=1b count=1 (or lilo -u should do the
same effect)
edit lilo.conf so as to have boot=/dev/hda instead of /dev/hda1
rerun lilo
reboot. should work

If you don't kept /boot/boot.301 I do not know a definitive way of restoring
wintendo. You could try this : boot from a floppy and try sys c: but please
try this as a last resort because it could wrac havoc your win1895 partition
 
> Thanks.

HTH

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Re: Desktop manager for X Window in a slow computer?

[Branden Robinson]

On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:41:56PM +0100, Daniel González Gasull wrote:
> I have a potato i486 DX2 66 MHz with 8 MB RAM running
> X with Linux Debian 2.0.  Which desktop manager for X
> Window may/must I use?

You mean "desktop environment", or window manager?

A window manager is the thing that puts borders and titles on your windows
and lets you move them around, resize them, iconify them, etc.  Most (all?)
also have pop-up menus that can be used to launch other applications if
properly configured.

A desktop environment is much more complicated thing with a really blue-sky
definition.  It does nifty things like let you drag and drop between
different applications and more complcated stuff.  KDE and GNOME are two
prominent examples.  You may not get satisfying performance out of either
of them on an old 486.  But I really can't say since I don't use either
one.

Assuming you mean window manager, well, there's always the old standby twm,
but it's not very featureful and doesn't even support the Debian menuing
system properly (yet).

fvwm and fvwm2 are a couple of very popular alternatives based on twm,
but are more featureful. fvwm (version 1) was designed to not hog too
many system resources.  I used it happily for a couple of years; I now
use fvwm2.

There are lots and lots of window managers out there.  Your best bet is
probably to experiment.

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Re: configuring X

[Branden Robinson]

On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 03:27:59PM -0600, Brian Morgan wrote:
> Can someone help me find the xf86setup graphical setup for X?  I'm having
> trouble getting the mouse just right, and would like to use the graphical
> setup to make this work.

If you're running hamm, it's in the xserver-vga16 package, and should be in
as /usr/bin/X11/XF86Setup.

If you're using slink or potato, XF86Setup has its own package, called
(strangely) xf86setup.

I'll caution you, though -- in my experience XF86Setup is not a great tool
with which to configure the mouse.  The X server expects the pointer device
to be working when it starts, and if you have the protocol set wrong and
then move the mouse, you can get bizarre results and you have to kill the X
server.

If you have a serial mouse, try putting

   Protocol"Auto"

in the "Pointer" section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config file.  That
autodetects a wide variety of serial mice.

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Re: Desktop manager for X Window in a slow computer?

[Steve Lamb]

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On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:09:14 -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:

>Assuming you mean window manager, well, there's always the old standby twm,
>but it's not very featureful and doesn't even support the Debian menuing
>system properly (yet).

I'll throw in my suggestion for icewm.  It looks much nicer than twm,
isn't too configurable, but is nice and small.  Mind you, this is the gnome
version and I think the normal one would be smaller.

USER   PID %CPU %MEM  SIZE   RSS TTY STAT START   TIME COMMAND
morpheus 15301  0.0  2.5  3864  1640  ?  S   Jan 10   0:14 icewm-gnome

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Re: Desktop manager for X Window in a slow computer?

[Andreas Sliwka]

Daniel González Gasull wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I have a potato i486 DX2 66 MHz with 8 MB RAM running
> X with Linux Debian 2.0.  Which desktop manager for X
> Window may/must I use?
Just take a window manager with a (very)small memory footprint, mw2,
blackbox, or icewm

mfg+
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Re: DeskJet 870

[Allan M. Wind]

On 1999-01-21 16:21, Alec Smith wrote:

> Could anyone tell me how to make my DeskJet 870 operate under Debian? For
> example, a filter for Magicfilter or whichever.

Either use dj550c-filer or use the ghostscript hpdj filter (magic
filter included).


/Allan
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#! /usr/sbin/magicfilter

# PostScript
0   %!  filter  cat - | /usr/bin/pstops -q 1:-0 | /usr/bin/gs  
-q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=hpdj -sColorMode=CMYK -sModel=unspec 
-sPrintQuality=0 -sOutputFile=- - 
0   \004%!  filter  cat - | /usr/bin/pstops -q 1:-0 | /usr/bin/gs  
-q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=hpdj -sColorMode=CMYK -sModel=unspec 
-sPrintQuality=0 -sOutputFile=- - 

# PDF
0   %PDFfpipe   cat - | /usr/bin/pstops -q 1:-0 | /usr/bin/gs  
-q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=hpdj -sColorMode=CMYK -sModel=unspec 
-sPrintQuality=0 -sOutputFile=- $FILE 


# TeX DVI
0   \367\002fpipe   /usr/bin/dvips  -D 600  -R -q -f 

# compress'd data
0   \037\235pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 

# packed, gzipped, frozen and SCO LZH data
0   \037\036pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 
0   \037\213pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 
0   \037\236pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 
0   \037\240pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 

# troff documents
0   .\?\?\040   fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   .\\\"   fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   '\\\"   fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   '.\\\"  fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   \\\"fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 

# ditroff
0   "x T ps"pipe/usr/bin/grops 
0   "x T dvi"   pipe/usr/bin/grodvi 
0   "x T ascii" pipe/usr/bin/grotty 
0   "x T latin1"pipe/usr/bin/grotty 
0   "x T lj4"   reject  Cannot print LaserJet 4 ditroff files.

# Portable bit-, grey- and pixmaps
0   P1\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 600  
2>/dev/null 
0   P2\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 600  
2>/dev/null 
0   P3\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 600  
2>/dev/null 
0   P4\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 600  
2>/dev/null 
0   P5\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 600  
2>/dev/null 
0   P6\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 600  
2>/dev/null 

# HP Printer Control Language (PCL) -- assume start with reset code
0   \033E\033   cat 

# HP Printer Job Language (PJL)
0   \033%-12345Xreject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   "@PJL " reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   @PJL\t  reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   @PJL\r  reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   @PJL\n  reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 

# GIF files
0   GIF87a  pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm  2>/dev/null
0   GIF89a  pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm  2>/dev/null

# JFIF (JPEG) files
0   \377\330\377\340\?\?JFIF\0  pipe/usr/bin/djpeg  -pnm

# TIFF files (the last two bytes of the "magic" is really a version number;
# but the magic is really lame and as far as I have understood the version
# number has never changed and never will, so we include it.)
0   MM\0\x2afpipe   /usr/bin/tiff2ps  $FILE
0   II\x2a\0fpipe   /usr/bin/tiff2ps  $FILE 

# BMP files (even lousier magic -- Microsoft strikes again!)
0   BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x0c  pipe\
/usr/bin/bmptoppm  2>/dev/null
0   BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x40  pipe\
/usr/bin/bmptoppm  2>/dev/null
0   BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x28  pipe\
/usr/bin/bmptoppm  2>/dev/null

# Garbage delivered from Windows via Samba
# (donated by Andree Leidenfrost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
# 300 \033\052\157cat
# later changed to 
# (Bug report #22866: magicfilter: Incorrect magic for Win95/Samba print jobs)
0   \000\000\000\000\000   cat

# Sun rasterfiles
0   \x59\xa6\x6a\x95 pipe   /usr/bin/rasttopnm  2>/dev/null

# SGI Imagelib (IRIS RGB) files
0   \x1\xda pipe/usr/bin/sgitopnm  2>/dev/null
0   \xda\x1 pipe/usr/bin/sgitopnm  2>/dev/null

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0   #FIGpipe/usr/bin/X11/fig2dev  -Lps -P -l dummy

#
# Standard rejects... things we don't want to print
#

# Various archive formats
257 ustar\0 reject  Attempted to print a tar file.
257 "ustar  \0" reject  Attempted to print a tar file.
0   07070   reject  Attempted to print a cpio file.
0   PK\3\4  reject  Attempted to print a zip file.
20  \xdc\xa7\xc7\xfd reject Attempted to print a zoo f

Re: in-addr.arpa registration

[Allan M. Wind]

On 1999-01-21 02:19, Chad A. Adlawan wrote:

>   i was wondering if someone can help/give me guidelines on what do i do
> to register a block for reverse IP queries/reverse domain, my case is,
>   a friend asked me why they can never do reverse lookups on their IP's
> (they own the whole block, i.e. 208.162.24.*)

Are you sure that they OWN the block opposed to the ISP owning it?  If
they really own the block, check out www.internic.net.  Otherwise,
they will have to ask their ISP to registrate the reverse DNS for
them.

Try ftp to ftp.funet.fi, I beleive it complains when reverse dns is
missing and direct you to some interesting documents.

> 162.208.in-addr.arpa
> origin = ns.cw.net
> mail addr = hostmaster.cw.net
> serial = 1999012001
> refresh = 3600 (1H)
> retry   = 600 (10M)
> expire  = 360 (5w6d16h)
> minimum ttl = 3600 (1H)

Looks like you're missing a "24" somewhere.  The arpa line should be
24.162.208.in-addr.arpa (for your C class).

Good luck!


/Allan
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re: what cd-writer ?

[SEGV]

> If you found a yamaha model that's affordable, _Get_it!_  Those are
> excellent machines.

I just got a Yamaha CRW4416S internal SCSI 16/4/4 cd writer. I also got a cheap
crappy Kouwell 10MB/s SCSI adapter to go with it.

No problem getting it up and running with cdrecord under Debian Linux (custom
compiles though, my package situation is fried). Burned my first CD no problem.
My hard drive is sighing under the reduced load now.

I haven't booted into NT since then so I don't know if it works under it yet.

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Netscape Toolbar Icon

[UF Marpaung]

I've installed Netscape and Navigator45 in my Debian system.
I use WindowMaker and Enlightenment. But why icon images
in Navigator's toolbar look bad ? only 2 color (black and white)
Any suggestion ?

Thanks,
UFM

DB2 progress

[Colin McCormack]

Hi,

I'm also struggling with the installation of DB2 under debian.

Here's what I have so far:

I created a /bin/rpm file as follows:
#!/bin/sh

alien --to-deb -i $2

I symlinked the following:
/bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk
/bin/basename -> /usr/bin/basename
/bin/compress -> /usr/bin/compress
/bin/grep -> /usr/bin/grep
/bin/egrep -> /usr/bin/egrep
/bin/sed -> /usr/bin/sed
/bin/touch -> /usr/bin/touch

I found a news post that gives the following information:

The problem with connecting using a userid and password if you are 
shadowing passwords turns out to be a bug in the install script.  A
couple of files in sqllib/security should have suid bits set but the
install is not doing this.  To fix this, cd to ~/sqllib/security on
the instance id and do:

  chmod g+s db2flacc
  chmod u+s db2aud

then su to root and do:

  chmod ug+s db2ckpw

And I subscribed to the ibm.software.db2.udb.linux.beta newsgroup at 
news.software.ibm.com.


Status:
The thing's installed (appears to be, at least), but at the point it tries (or 
I try) to create the sample instance with this:
db2icrt -a SERVER -u db2fenc1 db2inst1

I'm getting horrible errors, worst of which is this beauty:
SQL10007N Message "-1390" could not be retrieved.  Reason code: "2"

Which, I think, means that it got an error, but it can't tell me what it is :)

Some problem with localisation, I surmise.

I have netsearched newsgroups for some clue as to what -1390 might mean, and 
it appears to be this:

SQL1390C The environment variable DB2INSTANCE is not defined or is invalid.

(Can I just point out, for the easily amused, that -1390 is represented as 
1390C in one of the horrible numeric formats they use for COBOL?  Welcome to 
the 70s. :)

Colin.

Re: Massaging & Compiling SLiRP

[H Huang]

Karl A. Krueger writes:

> I'm having a good deal of trouble getting SLiRP to compile under Debian
> 2.0.  I'm using the slirp-1.0c source code, available from
> blitzen.canberra.edu.au, under /pub/slirp.  configure runs fine; but when
> attempting to actually make the binary, I get a stream of errors.  
> 
> The first:
> 
> gcc -I. -I. -DUSE_PPP  -g -O -O2  -c ./ppp/pppdfncs.c
> In file included from slirp.h:264,
>  from ppp/ppp.h:27,
>  from ppp/pppd.h:29,
>  from ./ppp/pppdfncs.c:39:
> ppp.p:21: conflicting types for `logwtmp'
> /usr/include/utmp.h:53: previous declaration of `logwtmp'
> make: *** [pppdfncs.o] Error 1

I believe that this is caused by the different utmp format in glibc2.

> So ... has anyone successfully massaged the SLiRP source to get it to
> compile under a modern Linux?  Mind sharing your hints or patches?  Has
> anyone picked SLiRP up where Dan Gasparovski left it off three years ago? 
> Has anyone (for that matter) a good replacement for SLiRP's functionality?

Why not fetch the debianized source codes and take a look at the
diff.gz file?

-- 
H Huang

slink vs. staroffice 5.0

[Ben Messinger]

I had staroffice 5.0 working under hamm, but it broke when I updated to
slink. I am assuming due to differences in libc.so.6 between hamm and
slink. Is this right? Is there a way to keep slink and still get
staroffice working again? Everything else I use is working fine.

-Ben

Re: Gnome default dir is /usr/src

[Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella]

Will Lowe writes:
 > > I installed gnome in my computer, and, I don't know why, every program
 > > that I start within the gnome-panel has the current dir = "/usr/src".
 > 
 > Similarly,  the slink version starts everything in /etc.  Boy,  is that a
 > pain in emacs.
 > 
 >  Will

Mine *is* slink!

I think that this is either a configurable option that I could not
find where to configure, or something like: "from the dir where you
ran dpkg to install gnome"... Should I report this as a bug?

Thanks.


-- 
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Re: DB2 progress

[Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 02:32:21PM +1100, Colin McCormack wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm also struggling with the installation of DB2 under debian.
> 
> Here's what I have so far:
> 
> I created a /bin/rpm file as follows:
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> alien --to-deb -i $2
> 
> I symlinked the following:
> /bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk
> /bin/basename -> /usr/bin/basename
> /bin/compress -> /usr/bin/compress
> /bin/grep -> /usr/bin/grep
> /bin/egrep -> /usr/bin/egrep
> /bin/sed -> /usr/bin/sed
> /bin/touch -> /usr/bin/touch
> 
> I found a news post that gives the following information:

rpm2deb for DB2 installations are not a good idea since it does a whole bunch 
ofstuff at the end like addusers and updates database configuration. Best thing 
to do would be to install a small redhat partition, install DB2, tar it up, 
copy the log and untar the db2 and run the commands at the end on debian.
> 
> The problem with connecting using a userid and password if you are 
> shadowing passwords turns out to be a bug in the install script.  A
> couple of files in sqllib/security should have suid bits set but the
> install is not doing this.  To fix this, cd to ~/sqllib/security on
> the instance id and do:
> 
>   chmod g+s db2flacc
>   chmod u+s db2aud
> 
> then su to root and do:
> 
>   chmod ug+s db2ckpw
> 
> And I subscribed to the ibm.software.db2.udb.linux.beta newsgroup at 
> news.software.ibm.com.
> 
> 
> Status:
> The thing's installed (appears to be, at least), but at the point it tries 
> (or 
> I try) to create the sample instance with this:
>   db2icrt -a SERVER -u db2fenc1 db2inst1
> 
> I'm getting horrible errors, worst of which is this beauty:
>   SQL10007N Message "-1390" could not be retrieved.  Reason code: "2"
> 
> Which, I think, means that it got an error, but it can't tell me what it is :)
> 
> Some problem with localisation, I surmise.
> 
> I have netsearched newsgroups for some clue as to what -1390 might mean, and 
> it appears to be this:
> 
> SQL1390C The environment variable DB2INSTANCE is not defined or is invalid.

Looks like you did not install the DB2 instance.. Second screen I guess or you 
did not run the follow-up commands. Look at the IBM newsgroup for the message 
called DB2 Install on Debian GNU/Linux and read its reply. It will help you.
> 
> (Can I just point out, for the easily amused, that -1390 is represented as 
> 1390C in one of the horrible numeric formats they use for COBOL?  Welcome to 
> the 70s. :)
> 
> Colin.
>

Hope it helps,

Vaidhy

Re: DB2 progress

[Colin McCormack]

> > Here's what I have so far:
> > 
> > I created a /bin/rpm file as follows:
> > #!/bin/sh
> > 
> > alien --to-deb -i $2
 
> rpm2deb for DB2 installations are not a good idea since it does a whole bunch 
> ofstuff at the end like addusers and updates database configuration. Best 
> thing to do would be to install a small redhat partition, install DB2, tar it 
> up, copy the log and untar the db2 and run the commands at the end on debian.

Doesn't alien run the post installation instructions in the rpm?
The hack I'm suggesting makes the db2inst process think it's running rpm, but 
if alien doesn't perform internal rpm commands, and IBM's put such things into 
the rpms, I guess that would cause some problems.

Don't see why alien wouldn't do this, though.

Colin.

Re: Lilo corrupted double-spaced Win95 drive - Fixed

[Kent West]

Kent West wrote:

> This isn't exactly a Debian question, but maybe you can help.
>
> First off, DOH!
>
> Secondly, I've got two drives in my box; the master is running Win95 and is
> apparently double-spaced. I know, I know, doublespace is just asking for
> trouble, but it was the only option I had for more drive space.
>
> I had forgotten the drive was doublespaced.
>
> I installed potato on the second drive, and then decided to install lilo.
> The first time around, lilo gave me the message that my BIOS might not boot
> from the second drive. I said "OK" and continued on. Upon reboot, Win95
> came up just fine, but I never got a LILO prompt.
>
> So I went back and reconfigured lilo.conf so that one or two of the lines
> that were referring to hdb1 now referred to hda1. (I don't have the
> computer or files at hand right now.) I think it was either/both/allthree
> the boot= line and/or the install= line and/or the root= line.
>
> Upon reboot, lilo came up and gave me my options of linux or Win95, and
> linux starts just fine. Win95 however does a repeating "Loading Windows,
> LILO, Loading Windows, LILO ".
>
> When I try to mount the Win partition in Linux, it says there's no msdos
> type or vfat type partitions. About this time I start remembering that
> maybe the Win drive is double-spaced.
>
> So I boot off a Win95 floppy and try to access the C: drive and get an
> "Invalid media type" error. I run Win95's fdisk and it reports the
> partition as UNKNOWN. "Great," I think, "just great!"
>
> Does anyone know how I can recover my Win95 partition so my family can have
> their toy back?
>
> Thanks.

Just wanted to let everyone know, this is now fixed. Good ol' Norton Utilities 
for
Win95 to the rescue. Saw I had a "corrupt" boot sector, offered to fix it, did, 
and
now everything is dandy.

Once I got the system up, I realized that the Win drive was NOT doublespaced. 
So what
I did/lilo did to the MBR/partition is beyond me, but it's fixed now.

Now I'm using the [menu] option in DOS/Windows' CONFIG.SYS for my boot manager,
calling loadlin as needed to fire up Linux. Works great.

Thanks everyone!

Re: XFIG in Debian recent release

[Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam]

On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 08:44:46PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am having some trouble with editing a picture object file in the XFIG of
> the recent Debian release. This is the first time I have loaded Debian
> GNU/Linux. I have experience with the slackware and Redhat.
> 
> The picture object does not fill the space to which it expands on "use
> original size" 
> The result -- I cannot edit or place other objects on the object.
> 
> Am I setting some wrong option? Can someone help?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Chitra  Natarajan
> 
> 
>
I am not sure what you mean by does not fill the space. I tried it today and it 
works fine.. However, I think you may be making one of the following errors:

1. Use apply button to preview. You have to use done button to get the changes 
on the screen.

2. your image might have a frame around it.


Hope it helps,
Vaidhy

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Re: SQL packages

[Adam Keys]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> All,
> Does anyone know if there are any SQL database servers that are MS
> SQL 6.5 compatible and work with Debian?  Also, would it support integrated
> security and if not how hard do you expect it to be to write something like
> that?(I assume most of the work has already been done by the samba package.)
> If I can find something that does basically everything our current server
> does (or pretty close even), then I'm going to replace it with a Debian box
> that I can rely on.

-- 
a) compatible with sql server?  so far as odbc, mysql and postgreSQL offer odbc,
which is probably how you connect to your server.  the tables, however, are
stored in a binary format in sql server (AFAIK), while mysql stores the data in
flat text files.  you're going to need to do some SQL trickery to move the data
across; the data files cannot be copied from one system to another.  my
recommendation is to go with mysql, both for its enormous speed advantage, and
also for it's great security.

b) samba doesn't really do much you would want to do with a database, in all
instances i've seen

,-.
> Adam Keys| That rug really brought the room together<
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]|  <
`-'

Re: DB2 progress

[Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 03:38:06PM +1100, Colin McCormack wrote:
> 
> > > Here's what I have so far:
> > > 
> > > I created a /bin/rpm file as follows:
> > > #!/bin/sh
> > > 
> > > alien --to-deb -i $2
>  
> > rpm2deb for DB2 installations are not a good idea since it does a whole 
> > bunch ofstuff at the end like addusers and updates database configuration. 
> > Best thing to do would be to install a small redhat partition, install DB2, 
> > tar it up, copy the log and untar the db2 and run the commands at the end 
> > on debian.
> 
> Doesn't alien run the post installation instructions in the rpm?
> The hack I'm suggesting makes the db2inst process think it's running rpm, but 
> if alien doesn't perform internal rpm commands, and IBM's put such things 
> into the rpms, I guess that would cause some problems.
> 
> Don't see why alien wouldn't do this, though.
> 
> Colin.

My thinking is that these are not the part of RPM, but a part of the script 
that installs the rpms. In that case, the post-inst scripts would work fine, 
but the commnads to run after the rpm installs would not work. I am planning to 
try a hack.. I am going to convert the scripts to deb, convert them back to RPM 
and use the DB2 installer to see if they work..

Re: DB2 progress

[Joey Hess]

Colin McCormack wrote:
> Doesn't alien run the post installation instructions in the rpm?

Not unless you convert it with alien --scripts. The chance that the postinst
just won't work on a redhat system is too large (imho) to make it on by
default.

-- 
see shy jo

Re: Gnome default dir is /usr/src

[Will Lowe]

> Mine *is* slink!
> 
> I think that this is either a configurable option that I could not
> find where to configure, or something like: "from the dir where you
> ran dpkg to install gnome"... Should I report this as a bug?

Sure.  But make it one with a pretty low priority.

:)
Will


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Re: root telnet

[Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar]

-> > -> How to make telnetd accept root login ?
-> > 
-> > are you nuts ?
-> > use ssh at least...
-> 
-> If you really must allow root access, after adding the relevent entries to
-> the /etc/securrity file. You *could* then restrict root access to limited 
-> hosts via the /etc/login.access file. (OK I guess you could do this via 
-> hosts.allow/deny too).
-> 
-> In login.access add a line like...
-> 
-> -:root:ALL EXCEPT some.host1 some.other.host LOCAL
-> 
-> That will allow root logins only from local (console) and some.host1 and
-> some.other.host

and I'll recommend to define in sshd.conf:

UseLogin yes

-> Might not be the best way, but better than just allowing root access from
-> anywhere (suicide).

-> Of course you could always login as another user and then 'su -' to root.

That's the preferred way by 9 of 10 sysadmins ;-)


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debian installation

[rod peters]

I need some help.  I have been trying to install debian 
for severl weeks.  Today got me the most progress so far.  I had my 
installation almost running but I think I put in a wrong video or monitor value 
and my system started blinking every half second.  It was locked up so I 
rebooted.  Same thing.  Now, I have selected the packages for home 
user(graphics,sound,X yadda yadda), but when I install, I get "too many 
errors, quitting install"  and as its installing the packages that do 
get installed,  often it says error files missing.  Do I have a bad 
CD?  I have been fighting with this for a long time.  I thought I 
almost had it, then I made a mistake, and now I can't get that far for 
nothin'.  I have even d'loaded the floppy images from the site to see if 
they work.  Nope.  Maybe I'm not meant to run 
Linux.

Re: Kernel make config

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,

kernel-package dcontains what I think are the official config
 files in /usr/lib/kernel-package/Config, and those get used if you do
 not already have a .config file. I think you can run make-kpkg
 kernel_image, hit control C after a minute or so, and voila, you
 should have a proper .config file to use as default.

manoj
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 God... You've.. You've turned him into a DEMOCRAT!" Doonesbury
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Re: making symlinks in cvs

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Joey> I know cvs doesn't do symlinks, but I need some symlinks to be
 Joey> created when a cvs directory is checked out, and I know that's
 Joey> possible because Manoj told me how once... but I've forgotten
 Joey> the details. Could anyone fill me in on how to do it?

Here is an excerpt from my modules file. Two packages,
 latex2html and pkg-order, contain symlinks. The modules file entries
 are noted below. I am enclosing the (simple) scripts as well.

manoj

==
# Debian Packages
latex2html   -s manoj -e $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/latex2html -o $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/lat
ex2html debian/latex2html
make -s manoj   debian/make
pkg-order-s manoj -e $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/pkg-order -o $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/pkg-
==

$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/latex2html =
#! /bin/sh
set -e
echo >&2 `pwd`
(cd $1/docs; test -f html.sty || ln -s ../texinputs/html.sty; \
 test -f htmllist.sty || ln -s ../texinputs/htmllist.sty)
(cd $1/styles; test -f francais.perl || ln -s french.perl francais.perl; test 
-f germanb.perl || ln -s german.perl germanb.perl)
(cd $1/texinputs; test -f html.sty || ln -s html2e.sty html.sty)
==
$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/pkg-order==
#! /bin/sh
set -e
echo >&2 `pwd`
(cd $1; test -f Package || ln -s Debian/Package; )
==
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Re: Netscape Toolbar Icon

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:27:58AM +0700, UF Marpaung wrote:
> I've installed Netscape and Navigator45 in my Debian system.
> I use WindowMaker and Enlightenment. But why icon images
> in Navigator's toolbar look bad ? only 2 color (black and white)
> Any suggestion ?

What color depth are you using in X? Probably 8 bit (default).
Netscape is a colour hog.


Hamish
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Re: SQL packages

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 10:51:28PM -0600, Adam Keys wrote:
> a) compatible with sql server?  so far as odbc, mysql and postgreSQL offer 
> odbc,
> which is probably how you connect to your server.  the tables, however, are
> stored in a binary format in sql server (AFAIK), while mysql stores the data 
> in
> flat text files.  you're going to need to do some SQL trickery to move the 
> data

Err, it does? It doesn't here.  There's just no way you can get decent
speed from text files.


Hamish
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Re: slink vs. staroffice 5.0

[Ben Messinger]

Ben Messinger wrote:
> 
> I had staroffice 5.0 working under hamm, but it broke when I updated to
> slink. I am assuming due to differences in libc.so.6 between hamm and
> slink. Is this right? Is there a way to keep slink and still get
> staroffice working again? Everything else I use is working fine.

False alarm. Somehow I lost an environment variable I had previously
set. All is well now.

Re: DB2 progress - success!

[Colin McCormack]

DB2 success!

Joey Hess clued me in, the RPM scripts weren't being run, so I changed the 
/bin/rpm hack script to this:

#!/bin/sh

alien --to-deb --scripts -i $2

With the noted symlinks:
> /bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk
> /bin/basename -> /usr/bin/basename
> /bin/compress -> /usr/bin/compress
> /bin/grep -> /usr/bin/grep
> /bin/egrep -> /usr/bin/egrep
> /bin/sed -> /usr/bin/sed
> /bin/touch -> /usr/bin/touch

Installation proceeded.  I can now start the database, catalog a node, connect 
to the sample database ... it's looking pretty healthy.

Next, getting the web control center to work :)

Colin.

Re: Netscape Toolbar Icon

[Patrick Colbeck]

On Fri Jan 22, 1999 at 06:54:05PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:27:58AM +0700, UF Marpaung wrote:
> > I've installed Netscape and Navigator45 in my Debian system.
> > I use WindowMaker and Enlightenment. But why icon images
> > in Navigator's toolbar look bad ? only 2 color (black and white)
> > Any suggestion ?
> 
> What color depth are you using in X? Probably 8 bit (default).
> Netscape is a colour hog.

It also tends to do this with some X servers in 24 bit colour. Try 16 or 32
bit colour instead.

Pat

video_TV cards help

[Joze Kovacic]

Hello
  For few days now, I've been honted by a 'need to upgrade' video out of
my PII engine...
  I would like to know some of Your views/experiences on my list of
'would_be' solutions:

 (ASUS P2L97 AGP Mainboard rev 2.04; I am looking for AGP card with
 optional TV tuner and/or grabb./video_conf. functinality)

AGP V3400TNT , 128bit RIVA-TNT based
AGP V1326, SiS 6326 based
AGP V2740, Intel 740 based
AGP V385GX2  , S3 ViRGE/GX2 based

Or should I settle for say Matrox G200 AGP and look for grabber_card only?

..and yes, I've read all that can be found on V4L pages, and like what is
there...right now I'd like to know about Your working slutions with upper
listed...if any?

jk

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Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

[Mamoun Alissali]

Andreas Sliwka wrote:
> 
> Steve Lamb wrote:
> >
> > I don't know, I think if there were a language to start newbies out on,
> > it is perl.  Don't have to worry about many of the things that other
> > languages force upon you yet gives you a good gounding in how those other
> > languages work.
> 
> Heaven, no!
> 
> I think its quite a sinn to give perl to a newbie, perl corrupts. I use
> Perl since two years and I quite like it, but only because I can choose
> to use either imperative or oop thinking in perl and I dont have to
> every variable.
> 
> And thats the reason why a newbie should start with a a structured
> language like java (oop), pascal (imperative) or scheme
> (functional/lists oriented), so she/he learns to order hers/his thoughts
> and get a habit of problem solving. Perl gives you every opportunity to
> everything in one or two or in any other way, and I don't think that
> this is a good start in programming ...
> 
> soryy, my 2 euros

  May I add my 2 euros as well, though I didn't read everything in this
discussion? I think that OO analysis and design is fundamental for
mastering OO programming. My prefered refernces are Meyer, Booch and
Raumbaugh (OMT). I think I'd better hide under the table to avoid the
flames :-).

  Mamoun

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Re: Debian goes big business?

[Craig Sanders]

On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> Laurent Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> "ChL" == Christian Lavoie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>ChL> Bottom line: Debian should remain developer controlled.
> 
>What about non-developper users ? Shouldn't they have a word to say,
>even if they can't or do not have the time to contribute with code ? 
> 
> They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to
> Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are
> free to follow or ignore.  But they do not, and should not, IMO, have
> the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy.  Users are not
> developers and shouldn't presume to be.

i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly.

users are not developers, but they might be one day. one of the good
things about debian is that users who are willing to put in some work
CAN join up as developers.

i started that way a few years ago, and i'll bet that most debian
developers did too.

craig

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Re: Debian goes big business?

[J.H.M. Dassen]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 20:26:12 +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > Laurent Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >What about non-developper users ? Shouldn't they have a word to say,
> >even if they can't or do not have the time to contribute with code ? 
> > 
> > They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to
> > Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are
> > free to follow or ignore.  But they do not, and should not, IMO, have
> > the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy.  Users are not
> > developers and shouldn't presume to be.
> 
> i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly.

I would. Ben's phrasing strongly reminds me of Robert A. Heinlein;
especially of the concept of TANSTAAFL and the political system he describes
in "Starship Troopers", where the right to vote must be earned through a
tour of duty of public (not necessary military) service.

In the case of Debian, users do not have the right of vote, but can earn it
by becoming developers (i.e. by maintaining packages, but also by writing
documentation, maintaining the website etc.).

Ray
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HotWire Fax software

[Stephen M Lavelle]

I was looking for some decent fax software that I could use in the X enviroment
and came across the HotWire link at http://www.linuxresources.com
Good I thought and downloaded the file into my home directory. I tarred the 
fileand did ./lxinstall, then started x and did ./HotWire. The programme seemed 
to 
initialise but then nothing. 
Now i'm getting local mail with the following format:
Subject: Cron PATH=$PATH; 'cat /etc/HotWire' /bin:;export PATH; hwdespool.sh
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:

cat:/etc/HotWire:Nosuch file or directory
/bin/sh:hwdespool.sh:command not found
_
It is not a .deb package but claims to work on all Linux flavours.
My Unix experience is limited so if anyone can help me with the install and
configuration i'd be grateful.
Best Regards,
Stephen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: unix98 pty system

[Alexander N. Benner]

hi

Ship's Log, Lt. Jonathan P Tomer, Stardate 210199.1948:
> ok, so if i grab glibc2.1 i can use unix98 ptys? or will everything break on
> glibc2.1?
> 

I have it swiched on for quit a while (2.1.*) without a prob.
I use libc 2.0.7v right now.

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Compiling my own kernel

[Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe]

Hi

I finnaly did it! I compiled my first kernel!

Everything went (sort of) smoothly except for one thing.

I got the kernel-source package from potato (2.0.36) and kernel-headers
(is this one necessary?). I also got kernel-package!

I made make xconfig. make dep; make clean. and then make-kpgp
--revision=0.1 kernel_image it compiles ok but in the end i get :
test -f System.map &&  cp System.map \
debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.36
test -f System.map &&  chmod 644 \
debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.36
dpkg-gencontrol -pkernel-image-2.0.36-i586 -Pdebian/tmp-image/
dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.0.36-i586 not in control
info
make: *** [stamp-image] Error 29

So i dont have a deb of my kernel, but i got it in debian/tmp-image/boot
so everything is ok.

I just wanted to know what did i do wrong!

Thanks 

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Re: bash programming question

[Jiri Baum]

 
> You could put the find in a separate script:
> 
> find . -print0 | xargs -r0 somestuff.sh

If you go that way, you can just
  find . -exec somestuff.sh {} \;

(You might need quotes around the {}.)


Jiri

what is /dev/rvndiptcomsk

[Patrick]

Hi,

yesterday i installed mtr on my debian 2.0 hamm system
today (as reported by Tripwire) i see a new file on my system:
/dev/rvndiptcomsk

ls -al /dev/rvndiptcomsk gives :
srwxr-xr-x root root  0   

from where did that file come ?
what is it's use ?

(it's not in dpkg -L mtr nor in Contents-i386)

Thanks for your help

Patrick

lilo config

[Thomas MANGIN]

As far as I noticed I didn t see any to to config lilo with a windows partition.
I done it by hand few month ago but I needed and initrd file If I am right.
On my actual installation which is lighter I don t get it any more. What
can i do !!
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part 2 of what is /dev/rvndiptcomsk

[Patrick]

Ok sorry guys, 
i think i've found just after sending the email...

i forgot to tell you i installed iptraf also and /dev/rvndiptcomsk seems
to be used by rvnamed which is used by iptraf to do reverse DNS lookup without
blocking

if that was written somewhere in the documentation of iptraf

sorry

Patrick

Re: slink vs. staroffice 5.0

[Peter Berlau]

On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 07:50:49PM -0800, Ben Messinger wrote:
> I had staroffice 5.0 working under hamm, but it broke when I updated to
> slink. I am assuming due to differences in libc.so.6 between hamm and
> slink. Is this right? Is there a way to keep slink and still get
> staroffice working again? Everything else I use is working fine.
I'm using Debian/GNU Linux 2.1 slink - system with some 
potato: wmaker, libwraster1
because the wmaker from slink breaks during installation the
wmaker from potato not, however, ??
last update made on 22.01.1999
soffice 5.0 still works, very slow I think but works 
I have had some problems using it under wmaker, but I think
that was on a Debian/GNU 2.0 (hamm), can't remember correctly.
eventually You should try icewm, I'm using so5 with no problems
under icewm(my favorite)
maybe You must update some packages, or
did You use the libc6 which come with the staroffice-package
if so try using the "normally" libc6, which is
+++-===-==-
ii  libc6   2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: shared libraries
ii  libc6-dbg   2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: Debugging and Profiling libraries.
ii  libc6-dev   2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: Development libraries and header f
ii  libc6-pic   2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: PIC archive library

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Re: slink vs. staroffice 5.0

[Peter Berlau]

On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:05:35AM -0800, Ben Messinger wrote:
Hi Ben,
saw Your message "false alarm" 
sorry,

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Re: jdk1.1 java and Swing (JFC1.1)

[Michael and Diana Finney]

I tried the SwingSet and another example.  I could not do the windows look and 
feel.  The
windows.tar file is there, but it did not work.  It said that look and feel is 
not supported.
Ever have that happen?  What's the solution?
Thanks,
Michael

AWE32_SYNTH

[Peter Berlau]

Hi,
Im upgrade my Debian/GNU 2.1 (slink) to kernel 2.0.36-2,
unfortuanelety I lost sound-support
for my SaoundBlaster AWE 64 (plug and pray) ISA-Slot-Card, 
however.
I could restore the awe-drv and rerun the install.sh script

Sound Driver:3.5.4-960630 (Thu Jan 21 16:31:02 CET 1999 root,
Linux pmurmel 2.0.36 #1 Thu Jan 21 16:14:29 CET 1999 i586 unknown)
Kernel: Linux pmurmel 2.0.36 #1 Thu Jan 21 16:31:20 CET 1999 i586
Config options: 0

Installed drivers: 
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Type 2: Sound Blaster
Type 7: SB MPU-401

Card config: 
Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 9 drq 3,7
SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 9
OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0

Audio devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.16)

Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL-3

Midi devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster

therefore it looks ok, 
if system comes up 
isapnp initializes the wavetables, gameport, etc ok-status

but one problem stays
in the kernelconfiguration I never see a:
Config for AD_LIB
Config for AWE32_SYNTH,
so I have no 
awe specific midi-output

what do I wrong, please help

thanks a lot
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Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]

[Jernej Zajc]

I wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > Only if we let it. We're not animals. We're human. We can control
> > ourselves. Just because it rarely happens doesn't mean it can't happen.
> 
> It can happen, of course, it's just that it's different. Such a
> situation most likely deteriorates into "soem are more equal than
> others", as known from Aldous Huxley.
 ^
Actually George Orwell. Sorry. But both are phantastic :-)

> I do think it possible, mind you, but I also think it would pose
> some problems that otherwise would never arise.
> 
> But then, with the right attitude anything is possible.
> 
> [...]

Re: debian installation

[Kent West]

rod peters wrote:

>  I need some help.  I have been trying to install debian for
> severl weeks.  Today got me the most progress so far.  I had my
> installation almost running but I think I put in a wrong video
> or monitor value and my system started blinking every half
> second.  It was locked up so I rebooted.  Same thing.  Now, I
> have selected the packages for home user(graphics,sound,X yadda
> yadda), but when I install, I get "too many errors, quitting
> install"  and as its installing the packages that do get
> installed,  often it says error files missing.  Do I have a bad
> CD?  I have been fighting with this for a long time.  I thought
> I almost had it, then I made a mistake, and now I can't get
> that far for nothin'.  I have even d'loaded the floppy images
> from the site to see if they work.  Nope.  Maybe I'm not meant
> to run Linux.

It sounds like you've gotten through the base install okay. After
partitioning your drive and selecting device drivers and
configuring your keyboard and installing the base system, you
rebooted and then were given the option to choose a type of
system ("home user (graphics, sound, X, yadda yadda)"). This
indicates that the basic Linux system is there (and when I say
basic, I mean just barely functional; no man pages nor 'nuthin').

This is good.

Now the post-installer script has chosen a number of packages for
you that are suitable for home use and has copied them from the
CD to a directory on your system as .deb files. Then the script
calls dpkg/dselect (the Debian installer/maintenance program) to
install those .deb packages. Probably most of the packages have
been successfully installed.

If you as root run dselect and choose the Install and/or
Configure options, dselect will again try to install/configure
the packages that haven't been successfully installed.

When it dies due to too many errors (or for whatever reason), it
should give you a list of the things it couldn't install. Most
likely it's the X Window system/XF86Configure file that is one of
the problem packages.

Let us know that list says, and we'll have a little bit better
idea of where to go from there. Or, of my assumptions are all
wrong, let us know better where you're at in the installation
process.

Re: Debian goes big business?

[Ben Pfaff]

Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
   > They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to
   > Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are
   > free to follow or ignore.  But they do not, and should not, IMO, have
   > the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy.  Users are not
   > developers and shouldn't presume to be.

   i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly.

   users are not developers, but they might be one day. one of the good
   things about debian is that users who are willing to put in some work
   CAN join up as developers.

I guess that that's the corollary to what I'm saying.  If users want
to have a stronger in say in whether their advice is followed, they
should be become developers.  It's not that hard, and doesn't take
that long.
-- 
"...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user'
 as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver."
--Daniel Pead

Re: Mount cd

[Martin Schulze]

Henrik Hundebøl wrote:
> How do i mount cd and floppy in debian
> and how do i get my internet to work

Please ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: lilo config

[Andrew Ivanov]

> As far as I noticed I didn t see any to to config lilo with a windows
> partition. I done it by hand few month ago but I needed and initrd file
> If I am right. On my actual installation which is lighter I don t get it
> any more. What can i do !!
> 
> Thomas

Say again? It's kind of hard to understand what you tried to say here.
You don't have to do anything with initrd, just write lilo.conf and run
lilo.

Andrew




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Re: what cd-writer ?

[Lawrence Walton]

I hate to disagree but... the symbios cards are great and they are
generaly cheaper, faster and less trouble.

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On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Daniel J. Brosemer wrote:

> > On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:57:08PM -0500, Odin wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Can you recommend an inexpensive PCI SCSI card to go with a Yamaha? Right
> > now, I have two ATAPI hard drives and an ATAPI DVD drive connected to a
> > motherboard IDE controller. I was planning on purchasing a HP ATAPI
> > drive, but after hearing about several bad experiences with ATAPI
> > drives, I'm interested in a SCSI-based external one. 
> 
> Well, I can't in good conscience reccommend anything but an adaptec.  I've
> heard (but not experienced) that a zip-plus will erase data on a scsi hdd
> when not connected to an adaptec.  There are other reasons, though, like
> support, speed, _very_ nice bios, etc.  You'll pay for the niceness, but
> in my opinion, well worth it.  If you're planning on just using your CD-R
> on your SCSI chain, then you don't need Ultra Wide or even SCSI-3, just
> get yourself a good SCSI-2 (you don't even need that, but room to expand
> is good, and good luck finding a Narrow SCSI-1 anymore.)  If you're not
> buying for a corporation, my suggestion would be to watch the online
> auctions, sometimes they have adaptec cards.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> 
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Gnome

[Patrick Colbeck]

Hi people

I want to install Gnome on Slink but don't want to scatter new versions of
the libraries (eg gtk) arround anywhere. Does anyone know if you can compile
it like KDE where it looks for all libraries relative to a partciular
install path (eg /usr/local/gnome) so the apps that come with Slink can
continue using the old libraries. Also this would be usefull for cleanup if
when the next release is out (rm -Rf /usr/local/gnome).

Thanks

Pat

Re: Gnome

[Tino Schwarze]

Hi Pat,
> I want to install Gnome on Slink but don't want to scatter new versions of
> the libraries (eg gtk) arround anywhere. Does anyone know if you can compile
> it like KDE where it looks for all libraries relative to a partciular
> install path (eg /usr/local/gnome) so the apps that come with Slink can
> continue using the old libraries. Also this would be usefull for cleanup if
> when the next release is out (rm -Rf /usr/local/gnome).
Just run every configure script with option --prefix=/opt/gnome or 
whatever. Some tweaking in /etc/ld.so.conf and /etc/profile might be
neccessary then.

Bye, Tino.

lilo.conf~ syntax question??

[FUNKLORDZ]

olleh<
i am trying to configure Lilo to give me a choice between booting NT,win98,
and Linux...first, how do i determine what partition the MS O.S.'s (i.e.
hda2,3, etc...) reside on...once i have determined where they dwell, should i
use the following syntax in lilo.conf to give me the choice between O.S.'s?
other = /dev/hda4   # your dos partition, if any
  table = /dev/hda  # the current partition table
  label = dos   # or any non-fancy name
If this syntax is correct...i guess i only need to know how to determine where
nt and 98 are...thanks in advanced
ramon 

Debian on a ThinkPad 380Z

[Matthew Tebbens]

Has anyone installed Linux on a ThinkPad 380z ?
Any problems, suggestions...?

Matthew

Re: Gnome

[Will Lowe]

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Patrick Colbeck wrote:

> I want to install Gnome on Slink but don't want to scatter new versions of
> the libraries (eg gtk) arround anywhere. Does anyone know if you can compile
> it like KDE where it looks for all libraries relative to a partciular
> install path (eg /usr/local/gnome) so the apps that come with Slink can
> continue using the old libraries. Also this would be usefull for cleanup if
> when the next release is out (rm -Rf /usr/local/gnome).

Gnome uses GNU configure,  I think.  So when you untar a package,  one of
the first things the installation will tellyou to do is "run ./configure"
-- you can just run "./configure --prefix==/usr/local/gnome" to make
everything end up in /usr/local/gnome.

Will


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[kirk@braille.uwo.ca: question on keyboard menu choice.] (fwd)

[Paul McDermott]

hello my debian friends, can somebody on this list help me and/or us.
Paul


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From: Kirk Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-boot@lists.debian.org
Subject: question on keyboard menu choice.

Dear Sir:  I was hoping you might be able to answer a question or two,
and help me solve a problem I am having building a special boot disk
set.

We have written a set of kernel drivers to provide speech output on
the console.  As part of these patches we build special keymaps to
build into the kernel or load with loadkeys.  We have started making a
set of debian distribution disks with our modified kernel on them.  We
have no problem until we get to the select keyboarde choice in the
installation menu.  If we select u.s. our keyboard review functions
are overwritten.

What we have done is dump a binary keymap file and named it us.bmap to
try to get around the problem.  I assumed that the us.bmap file was
unpacked and loaded once a person selected us keymap at the menu
choice.  Unfortunately, it just appears to clear the keymap and not
actually load the keymap.  At least I don't think so because the
keymaps.tgz file is still intact after that point and there does not
seem to be any sign of the keymaps being unpacked.

If we try to by pass the menu choice, things go fine until we get down
to installing the base system.  We get an unable to find kbdconf, I
believe at the time zone prompt.  The system seems to just go back to
the menu at that point.

If you could clear up exactly what goes on at the keyboard choice,
that would be very useful.  I have looked through as much
documentation as I have found so far, and have not been able to find a
discussion of the actual installation process.  That is not to say one
doesn't exist, I just ain't found it yet.

Anyway, any help you could give me would certainly be appreciated.
  Kirk
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Re: lilo config

[Michael E. Touloumtzis]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:51:30PM +0100, Thomas MANGIN wrote:
> As far as I noticed I didn t see any to to config lilo with a windows
> partition. I done it by hand few month ago but I needed and initrd file
> If I am right. On my actual installation which is lighter I don t get it
> any more. What can i do !! 

Thomas,

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Maybe you are just asking simply for an
example of lilo.conf that boots Linux or Windows?  If so, this may help.
If not, this dialog may at least clear up what you need.

boot=/dev/hda3
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=50
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
root=/dev/hda3
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=Win95

Regards, MikeT

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gnome

[Lawrence Walton]

I have been meaning to ask this for a while; I have installed what I
believe are all the most recent gnome libs and apps from potato.

The apps that I would like to use the most are gnomecard and balsa
both range from moderately broken to just broken. I got the cvs versions
of both and tried to compile them, they both stop when they look for
gnome.h what package has it?

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Re: Mount cd

[frleg]

>> Henrik Hundebøl wrote:
>> > How do i mount cd and floppy in debian
>> > and how do i get my internet to work

If you have got IDE cdrom you have to do : 
mount /dev/hdx /cdrom

where
  x=a primary IDE master
  x=b primary IDE slave
  x=c secondary IDE master
  x=d secondary IDE slave
(the /cdrom directory have to exist)

To mount floppy just do nearly the same :

mount /dev/fd0 /floppy

If you have gor scsi cdrom, the device is different.

Franck


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floppy disk multitasking problems

[Sasha Gutfraind]

Hello fellow users!

I've a rather general technical question.
Floppy drives have been around for who knows how much
time. But even more, it seems that they originated
not from multitasking OSs like UN*X and Linux, but
from Macs and PCs running DOS.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that whenever I
mount a floppy, the whole Linux multitsking stops. It
is as though the mounting of a floppy is an
uninteruptable process. Maybe HDDs are relatively
fast, but I never notice such problems when mounting
them.
What is the reason for the delay in the system when
floppies are mounted? why it doesn't effect HDDs,
they are also physical drives? Buffer problems?

TIA.
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libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file:

[Christophe Broult]

What should I do to avoid the following error?

Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ gtop
gtop: error in loading shared libraries
libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ dpkg --status gtop
Package: gtop
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 176
Maintainer: Ian Lynagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 0.28.1-5
Depends: gdk-imlib1, libc6 (>= 2.0.7u), libglib1.1 (>= 1.1.3-2), libgnome0 (>= 
0.30.1-2), libgtk1.1 (>= 1:1.1.2-2), libgtop1 (>= 0.26.2-4), libjpeg62, 
libjpegg6a, libpng2, libtiff3g, libungif3g (>= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (>= 3.0-5.2), 
xlib6g (>= 3.3-5), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3)
Description: Graphical TOP variant
 The graphical version of top provides an easy interface to process
 control on a GNU/Linux system.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ 

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vfat -> cp: file: Operation not permitted

[Pere Camps]

Hi!

I've mounted a vfat partition with these options:

/dev/hda2  /mnt/dos   vfatdefaults,gid=101,umask=0007  

and whenever a user in the 101 group tries a copy a file within
the filesystem it gets the following error:

cp: file: Operation not permitted

Altough the file actually gets copied.

Is there any way to avoid this message?

TIA!

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Re: libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file:

[Mitch Blevins]

In foo.debian-user, you wrote:
> 
> What should I do to avoid the following error?
> 
> Chris
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ gtop
> gtop: error in loading shared libraries
> libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ dpkg --status gtop
> Package: gtop
> Status: install ok installed
> Priority: optional
> Section: admin
> Installed-Size: 176
> Maintainer: Ian Lynagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Version: 0.28.1-5
> Depends: gdk-imlib1, libc6 (>= 2.0.7u), libglib1.1 (>= 1.1.3-2), libgnome0 
> (>= 0.30.1-2), libgtk1.1 (>= 1:1.1.2-2), libgtop1 (>= 0.26.2-4), libjpeg62, 
> libjpegg6a, libpng2, libtiff3g, libungif3g (>= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (>= 
> 3.0-5.2), xlib6g (>= 3.3-5), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3)
> Description: Graphical TOP variant
>  The graphical version of top provides an easy interface to process
>  control on a GNU/Linux system.

You can try upgrading or reinstalling libglib1.1
(note: this may require other upgrades... gtk, etc)

-Mitch

..de.debian.org

[Thomas Adams]

What's up with the ...de.debian.org servers? A DNS problem perhaps?

Re: ..de.debian.org

[Remco van de Meent]

Thomas Adams wrote:
> What's up with the ...de.debian.org servers? A DNS problem perhaps?

No, there is no DNS problem, but apparently their uplink is broken at the
moment. Please try other mirrors for the time being.


bye,
 -Remco

Re: vfat -> cp: file: Operation not permitted

[Tino Schwarze]

Hi there,
>   I've mounted a vfat partition with these options:
> 
>   /dev/hda2  /mnt/dos   vfatdefaults,gid=101,umask=0007  
> 
>   and whenever a user in the 101 group tries a copy a file within
> the filesystem it gets the following error:
> 
>   cp: file: Operation not permitted
> 
>   Altough the file actually gets copied.
> 
>   Is there any way to avoid this message?
No, there is probably not. It comes from the fact that cp tries to set
some permissions on the destination file. That is actually not possible
for VFAT. (I would prefer VFAT to silently ignore that)

Bye, Tino.

xdm

[Brian Morgan]

Thanks to all who have helped me get X up and running.  I'm using xdm to
start my X sessions (not sure if I'll keep it).   A few more questions:

1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
graphical xdm login?

2.  If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default
windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx).

.3  Does xdm put any limitations on using gnome if I decide to use that in
the future?

Thanks,

Brian Morgan

Re: DeskJet 870

[Jay Barbee]

At 1/21/99 04:21 PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote:
>Could anyone tell me how to make my DeskJet 870 operate under Debian? For
>example, a filter for Magicfilter or whichever.
>

My Djet 870Cxi is on a NT system that Debian still accesses via LPR.  But I
did at one point have it hooked up and shared from Debian.  Here is how it
looked in my printcap:

 dj|djet870|HP Deskjet 870:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/djet870:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

I will say that I did have problem with the magicfilter program.  The
actual 550c driver that it installed filter would not execute.  I don't
know if that was a bug or not, I got a new copy of that filter (older
version maybe) and put it in its place, and I have never had a problem.

I will attach the driver I use (4.73k).

Other than that, you need to have the queue created in /var/spool/lpd:
drwxrwxr-x   2 lp   lp   1024 Dec 16 09:36 djet870/
..you can use a 'cp -a lp djet870' in the /var/spool/lpd directory, and
that should handle it for you.  

I know all of this sounds manual, but if the magicfilter install was a bit
much, this could be an easier route for you.

Hope it helps
--Jay#! /usr/sbin/magicfilter
#
# Magic filter setup file for HP DeskJet 500 series color printers with
# only CMY cartridge installed
#
# This file has been automatically adapted to your system.
#

# PostScript
0   %!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 
-sDEVICE=cdj500 -sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" - 3>&1 1>&2 
0   \004%!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 
-sDEVICE=cdj500 -sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" - 3>&1 1>&2 

# PDF
0   %PDFfpipe   /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 
-sDEVICE=cdj500 -sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" $FILE 3>&1 1>&2 


# TeX DVI
0   \367\002fpipe   /usr/bin/dvips  -D 300  -R -q -f 

# compress'd data
0   \037\235pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 

# packed, gzipped, frozen and SCO LZH data
0   \037\036pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 
0   \037\213pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 
0   \037\236pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 
0   \037\240pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 

# troff documents
0   .\?\?\040   fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   .\\\"   fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   '\\\"   fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   '.\\\"  fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   \\\"fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 

# ditroff
0   "x T ps"pipe/usr/bin/grops 
0   "x T dvi"   pipe/usr/bin/grodvi 
0   "x T ascii" pipe/usr/bin/grotty 
0   "x T latin1"pipe/usr/bin/grotty 
0   "x T lj4"   reject  Cannot print LaserJet 4 ditroff files.

# Portable bit-, grey- and pixmaps
0   P1\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P2\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P3\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P4\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P5\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P6\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 

# HP Printer Control Language (PCL) -- assume start with reset code
0   \033E\033   cat 

# HP Printer Job Language (PJL)
0   \033%-12345Xreject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   "@PJL " reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   @PJL\t  reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   @PJL\r  reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   @PJL\n  reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 

# GIF files
0   GIF87a  pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm  2>/dev/null
0   GIF89a  pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm  2>/dev/null

# JFIF (JPEG) files
0   \377\330\377\340\?\?JFIF\0  pipe/usr/bin/djpeg  -pnm

# TIFF files (the last two bytes of the "magic" is really a version number;
# but the magic is really lame and as far as I have understood the version
# number has never changed and never will, so we include it.)
0   MM\0\x2afpipe   /usr/bin/tiff2ps  $FILE
0   II\x2a\0fpipe   /usr/bin/tiff2ps  $FILE 

# BMP files (even lousier magic -- Microsoft strikes again!)
0   BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x0c  pipe\
/usr/bin/bmptoppm  2>/dev/null
0   BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x40  pipe\
/usr/bin/bmptoppm  2>/dev/null
0   BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x28  pipe\
/usr/bin/bmptoppm  2>/dev/null

# Garbage delivered from Windows via Samba
# (donated by Andree Leidenfrost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
# 300 \033\052\157cat
# later changed to 
# (Bug report #22866: magicfilter: Incorrect magic for Win95/S

Re: xdm

[MallarJ]

In a message dated 1/22/99 12:05:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
> to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
> graphical xdm login?

You should already have both - starting xdm doesn't prevent the console login
from starting, it just switches your display window.  To get to your console
login, hit CTL-ALT-F1 (F1 thru F6, actually).  To switch back to your X
session, hit CTL-ALT-F6.
 
> 2.  If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default
> windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx).

/etc/X11/window-managers
 
> .3  Does xdm put any limitations on using gnome if I decide to use that in
> the future?

I can't imagine it would, but I don't use GNOME.  However I do use KDE and
have no problems with that environment.  Also, I can use either xdm or kdm
with KDE for my logins.

-Jay

Re: xdm

[Andrew Ivanov]

> 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
> to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
> graphical xdm login?

/etc/X11/config file has one/more lines, depending on the version you use,
that mention xdm. For example, 
start-xdm
If you want to get rid of xdm, comment that line out.

> 
> 2.  If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default
> windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx).

/etc/X11/windows-managers holds a path to window manager that gets started
at the startup. I also modified the Xsession file in there, at the very
end, where it executed twm in some cases.


Andrew

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Re: dualboot linux and NT?

[Frederick Page]

Hi Jean,

you wrote on: 20 Jan 99 at 13:14 (received 21.01.99)
about   : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_

>> That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the
>> first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in
>> DOS-/Win-terms).
>
>This is clearly not true.  I have a dual boot configuration on my Dell
>Inspiron with one IDE harddrive configured as follows:
>
>  MBR   lilo


I'm sorry, I did not make myself clear enough: what I meant is, if you  
have the NT-Bootmanager on the MBR of your hd, it needs the NTLDR,  
NTDETECT.COM and BOOT.INI on the first Fat16-partition. I have the  
following configuration (three SCSI-hds, each 2 GB):

MBR: NT-Bootmanager

sda1 Win 95 (fat 16) 1 GB
sda2 Win NT 4.0, SP3 (NTFS) 1 GB
sdb1 Linux (ext2) 1.9 GB
sbd5 Linux swap 0.1 GB
sdc1 Data (fat 16) 2 GB

And I boot LILO with the NT-Bootmanager, also works fine.

>  partition-1   Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS
>  partition-2   FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory

How does that work? I was always under the impression, that Fat32 was not  
supported by NT 4.0.

Kind regardsFrederick

Re: xdm

[MallarJ]

In a message dated 1/22/99 12:11:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<< >1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what
file
 > to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
 > graphical xdm login?
 
 You should already have both - starting xdm doesn't prevent the console login
 from starting, it just switches your display window.  To get to your console
 login, hit CTL-ALT-F1 (F1 thru F6, actually).  To switch back to your X
 session, hit CTL-ALT-F6.
  >>

Oh, one more thing... if you decide NOT to start xdm anymore, change your
/etc/X11/config file and comment out the start-xdm line.

Jay

RE: xdm

[Shaleh]

On 22-Jan-99 Brian Morgan wrote:
> Thanks to all who have helped me get X up and running.  I'm using xdm to
> start my X sessions (not sure if I'll keep it).   A few more questions:
> 
> 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
> to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
> graphical xdm login?

In /etc/X11 is all the X config.  One of the files in there contains
"start-xdm", it may /etc/X11/Xservers, I forget.
> 
> 2.  If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default
> windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx).

On a per user basis, there is a file in ~ to edit, again I forget the name.  I
think you can actually make a link .xinitrc ->  and xdm will read it.  Try
looking in the xdm docs (or man page).

> 
> .3  Does xdm put any limitations on using gnome if I decide to use that in
> the future?

Once you have per user config, you can start whatever you want, even GNOME.

Re: DeskJet 870

[Alec Smith]

I'll have to give it a try later... Thanks.

People have suggested the 550c filter, but all it seems to do is spit out
blank pages and partial print jobs when I print from a Winblows system to
the Linux box using Samba. Someone else sent a modified filter more
specific to an 870 and it just plain didn't work. And here I was thinking
that making the 870 work would be just as easy as setting up an old
DeskJet 520.


Alec



On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Jay Barbee wrote:

> At 1/21/99 04:21 PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote:
> >Could anyone tell me how to make my DeskJet 870 operate under Debian? For
> >example, a filter for Magicfilter or whichever.
> >
> 
> My Djet 870Cxi is on a NT system that Debian still accesses via LPR.  But I
> did at one point have it hooked up and shared from Debian.  Here is how it
> looked in my printcap:
> 
>  dj|djet870|HP Deskjet 870:\
> :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/djet870:\
> :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
> :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter:\
> :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
> 
> I will say that I did have problem with the magicfilter program.  The
> actual 550c driver that it installed filter would not execute.  I don't
> know if that was a bug or not, I got a new copy of that filter (older
> version maybe) and put it in its place, and I have never had a problem.
> 
> I will attach the driver I use (4.73k).
> 
> Other than that, you need to have the queue created in /var/spool/lpd:
> drwxrwxr-x   2 lp   lp   1024 Dec 16 09:36 djet870/
> ..you can use a 'cp -a lp djet870' in the /var/spool/lpd directory, and
> that should handle it for you.  
> 
> I know all of this sounds manual, but if the magicfilter install was a bit
> much, this could be an easier route for you.
> 
> Hope it helps
> --Jay

Re: xdm

[Shaleh]

> 
> /etc/X11/windows-managers holds a path to window manager that gets started
> at the startup. I also modified the Xsession file in there, at the very
> end, where it executed twm in some cases.

I believe if you link .Xsession to .xinitrc in your home directory you get the
sanme results.

Re: lilo.conf~ syntax question??

[Andrew Ivanov]

> olleh<
> i am trying to configure Lilo to give me a choice between booting NT,win98,
> and Linux...first, how do i determine what partition the MS O.S.'s (i.e.
> hda2,3, etc...) reside on...once i have determined where they dwell, should i
> use the following syntax in lilo.conf to give me the choice between O.S.'s?

If you want to make a choice between WinNT/98, why do you boot into dos in
the example below?
But yes, the syntax is correct.
Just make sure you include all the 
boot=/dev/hdXX
root=/dev/hdXX
messages that come right in the beginning of lilo.conf

And to see where your partitions are, either break out the
windows startup disk and do
fdisk c: or fdisk d: or whatever
Or do it in linux 
fdisk /dev/hda
fdisk /dev/hdb etc.
or 
cfdisk /dev/hda
And so on.

Andrew

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Applying kernel patches

[Bob Nielsen]

I have the source for 2.2.0-pre2 and all the patches up to pre9.  When I
try to apply these patches with patch-kernel, I just get the result

Current kernel version is 2.2.0

I assume this is because the patch-kernel script won't handle the 'preX'
suffix.  It there a patch anywhere for the patch script?

Bob


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Re: Applying kernel patches

[Ben Collins]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:34:26AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> I have the source for 2.2.0-pre2 and all the patches up to pre9.  When I
> try to apply these patches with patch-kernel, I just get the result
>
> Current kernel version is 2.2.0
> 
> I assume this is because the patch-kernel script won't handle the 'preX'
> suffix.  It there a patch anywhere for the patch script?

Try this:

cd /usr/src
zcat patch-2.2.0-pre3.gz | patch -p0
(or)
cat patch-2.2.0-pre3 | patch -p0
(do this for each pre patch, starting from the lowest number)

Afterwards you will have a fully patched up pre9 source :)

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Re: xdm

[MallarJ]

In a message dated 1/22/99 12:24:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< > /etc/X11/windows-managers holds a path to window manager that gets
started
 > at the startup. I also modified the Xsession file in there, at the very
 > end, where it executed twm in some cases.
 
 I believe if you link .Xsession to .xinitrc in your home directory you get
the
 sanme results.
  >>

It will, however you'll be starting the manager mentioned in window-manager AS
WELL AS the one you mention in your Xsession file.

Not a problem, just FYI.

Re: xdm

[Colin Telmer]

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Andrew Ivanov wrote:

> > 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
> > to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
> > graphical xdm login?
> 
> /etc/X11/config file has one/more lines, depending on the version you use,
> that mention xdm. For example, 
> start-xdm
> If you want to get rid of xdm, comment that line out.

I assume the outcome is the same, but to be consistent with the syntax of
that file, you don't comment it out - you change "start-xdm" to
"no-start-xdm". Cheers.

--
Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Re: xdm

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  I believe if you link .Xsession to .xinitrc in your home directory you get
> the
>  sanme results.
> 
> It will, however you'll be starting the manager mentioned in window-manager AS
> WELL AS the one you mention in your Xsession file.
> 
> Not a problem, just FYI.

That should not be the case.  The global Xsession script checks to see if
a ~/.xsession exists, and if so, it runs it instead of running the WM from
/etc/X11/window-managers.

noah

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RE: lilo.conf~ syntax question??

[Dan Willard]

 Also don't forget that win98 writes its own stuff to the MBR during the
install process and will take out lilo.

--Dano

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Ivanov [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 12:04 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: lilo.conf~ syntax question??
> 
> > olleh<
> > i am trying to configure Lilo to give me a choice between booting
> NT,win98,
> > and Linux...first, how do i determine what partition the MS O.S.'s
> (i.e.
> > hda2,3, etc...) reside on...once i have determined where they dwell,
> should i
> > use the following syntax in lilo.conf to give me the choice between
> O.S.'s?
> 
> If you want to make a choice between WinNT/98, why do you boot into
> dos in
> the example below?
> But yes, the syntax is correct.
> Just make sure you include all the 
> boot=/dev/hdXX
> root=/dev/hdXX
> messages that come right in the beginning of lilo.conf
> 
> And to see where your partitions are, either break out the
> windows startup disk and do
> fdisk c: or fdisk d: or whatever
> Or do it in linux 
> fdisk /dev/hda
> fdisk /dev/hdb etc.
> or 
> cfdisk /dev/hda
> And so on.
> 
> Andrew
> 
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> someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> need you.  |
> 
> 
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RE: DeskJet 870

[Dan Willard]

  I have a Canon 4200 setup on my linux box and print to it from win98.
The shared printer doesn't have any local filters on it and the win98
box uses the driver for the printer.  Works just fine (and all the
setting , ie color et al).  You might want to try just setting the samba
shared printer with no filters and the win box with the correct driver.
Either that or see if you can convince win to just print with out
formating the text for the printer and let the linux box deal with it.

--Dano

> -Original Message-
> From: Alec Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 12:17 PM
> To:   Jay Barbee
> Subject:  Re: DeskJet 870
> 
> I'll have to give it a try later... Thanks.
> 
> People have suggested the 550c filter, but all it seems to do is spit
> out
> blank pages and partial print jobs when I print from a Winblows system
> to
> the Linux box using Samba. Someone else sent a modified filter more
> specific to an 870 and it just plain didn't work. And here I was
> thinking
> that making the 870 work would be just as easy as setting up an old
> DeskJet 520.
> 
> 
> Alec
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Jay Barbee wrote:
> 
> > At 1/21/99 04:21 PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote:
> > >Could anyone tell me how to make my DeskJet 870 operate under
> Debian? For
> > >example, a filter for Magicfilter or whichever.
> > >
> > 
> > My Djet 870Cxi is on a NT system that Debian still accesses via LPR.
> But I
> > did at one point have it hooked up and shared from Debian.  Here is
> how it
> > looked in my printcap:
> > 
> >  dj|djet870|HP Deskjet 870:\
> > :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/djet870:\
> > :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
> > :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter:\
> > :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
> > 
> > I will say that I did have problem with the magicfilter program.
> The
> > actual 550c driver that it installed filter would not execute.  I
> don't
> > know if that was a bug or not, I got a new copy of that filter
> (older
> > version maybe) and put it in its place, and I have never had a
> problem.
> > 
> > I will attach the driver I use (4.73k).
> > 
> > Other than that, you need to have the queue created in
> /var/spool/lpd:
> > drwxrwxr-x   2 lp   lp   1024 Dec 16 09:36 djet870/
> > ..you can use a 'cp -a lp djet870' in the /var/spool/lpd directory,
> and
> > that should handle it for you.  
> > 
> > I know all of this sounds manual, but if the magicfilter install was
> a bit
> > much, this could be an easier route for you.
> > 
> > Hope it helps
> > --Jay
> 
> 
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Errors in 2.2.0-pre8

[vaidhy]

Hi All,

I got the kernel pre5 and applied patches till pre9. However, after applying 
pre8, the compilation gave an error in the program fs/autofs/dirhash.c pre9 
does not fix this problem.

The actual error is at the end of dirhash.c and has the following lines..

struct auto_fs..   *ent,*nent;

  for()
 for(ent=..;ent;ent=nent)
   nent = ent->next;


My pre8 patch changed the definition into 
struct auto_fs..  *ent;

However, the pre8 patch had the diff for this program as

  for(ent=...;ent;ent=ent->next)  (second for as a reference line)

So my guess is that the probelm was fixed in one of the ac's, but somehow got 
missed in the patch. 

Did anyone else have the same problem? Can someone who has a local kernel 
mirror check it out ? 

Thanks,
Vaidhy





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Re: debian installation

[Rafael Kitover]

On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 11:15:06PM -0800, rod peters wrote:
> I need some help.  I have been trying to install debian for severl weeks.  
> Today got me the most progress so far.  I had my installation almost running 
> but I think I put in a wrong video or monitor value and my system started 
> blinking every half second.  It was locked up so I rebooted.  Same thing.  
> Now, I have selected the packages for home user(graphics,sound,X yadda 
> yadda), but when I install, I get "too many errors, quitting install"  and as 
> its installing the packages that do get installed,  often it says error files 
> missing.  Do I have a bad CD?  I have been fighting with this for a long 
> time.  I thought I almost had it, then I made a mistake, and now I can't get 
> that far for nothin'.  I have even d'loaded the floppy images from the site 
> to see if they work.  Nope.  Maybe I'm not meant to run Linux.

My suggestion is don't run xf86config for now (when the various packages
as you to). First install everything in dselect (you might have to hit
install a few times). And make sure you have enough disk space, df -k to
check. Once you get stuff installed, you can play with XF86Setup or
xf86config scripts. Remember that if X behaves weirdly you can kill it
with ctrl+alt+backspace. Best of luck!

-- 
Rafael Kitover
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Re: DeskJet 870

[Jose Manuel Cerqueira Esteves]

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Alec Smith wrote:

> I'll have to give it a try later... Thanks.
> 
> People have suggested the 550c filter, but all it seems to do is spit out
> blank pages and partial print jobs when I print from a Winblows system to
> the Linux box using Samba. Someone else sent a modified filter more
> specific to an 870 and it just plain didn't work. And here I was thinking
> that making the 870 work would be just as easy as setting up an old
> DeskJet 520.

Greetings

Here's how I have configured a 870Cxi here, using lprng and magicfilter
under Debian 2.0r3:

1. In my /etc/printcap, I put:

lp|dj870|hpdj870cxi|color|HP Deskjet 870 Cxi @othello
:lp=/dev/lp1
:if=/etc/magicfilter/dj870cxi-filter
:af=/var/log/lpd/hpdj870cxi.acct
:lf=/var/log/lpd/hpdj870cxi.errs
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hpdj870cxi
:mx#0
:sh

2. Created directory /var/log/lpd and both files under it, with the following
ownerships and permissions:

drwxr-s---   2 lp   lp   /var/log/lpd
-rw-r-   1 lp   lp   /var/log/lpd/hpdj870cxi.acct
-rw-r-   1 lp   lp   /var/log/lpd/hpdj870cxi.errs

3. Ran 
  checkpc -f 
once or twice, thus automatically creating the spool directory and some files
under it.

4. Created /etc/magicfilter/dj870cxi-filter starting from dj550c-filter.
I am using the hpdj driver, which apparently can only print at 300x300 dpi
on this printer (if anyone managed to use it for higher resolutions,
I would be interested in knowing about it).  
You can find detailed information about its options from,
ftp://ftp.pdb.sni.de/pub/utilities/misc/hpdj.html (a PostScript manual
is included).
I have used the hp850 driver before (installing gs-aladdin "manually");
this could printer at higher resolutions, but was also not totally free 
from problems, particularly bad reproduction of colours with low saturation.
Since the version of the gs-aladdin package installed here does not include
the hp850 driver, I decided to continue using hpdj for now.

Here is the start of my /etc/magicfilter/dj870cxi-filter 
(all the remaining lines are equal to those original dj550c-filter);
please note that some lines have been wrapped: each group
of 4 lines starting with a "0" and having "/usr/bin/gs" in it is in fact a 
single line (a single entry) in the filter setup file..
~~~ CUT HERE ~~
#! /usr/sbin/magicfilter
#

# Magic filter setup file for HP DeskJet 870 Cxi color printers with
# both black and CMY cartridges installed
#
# This file has been created starting from the dj550c-filter of magicfilter.
# Version 2.0  
# José Manuel Cerqueira Esteves, 1999-01-20.
#
# This file has been automatically adapted to your system.
#

# PostScript
0   %!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE 
-sDEVICE=hpdj -sModel=unspec -r300x300 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sColorMode=CMYK 
-dCompressionMethod=9 -sMediaType=plain -sPrintQuality=presentation 
-sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" - 3>&1 1>&2 
0   \004%!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE 
-sDEVICE=hpdj -sModel=unspec -r300x300 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sColorMode=CMYK 
-dCompressionMethod=9 -sMediaType=plain -sPrintQuality=presentation 
-sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" - 3>&1 1>&2 

# PDF
0   %PDFfpipe   /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE 
-sDEVICE=hpdj -sModel=unspec -r300x300 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sColorMode=CMYK 
-dCompressionMethod=9 -sMediaType=plain -sPrintQuality=presentation 
-sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" $FILE 3>&1 1>&2 
~~~ CUT HERE ~~


5. After you do all this you just have to:

 /etc/init.d/lprng stop
 /etc/init.d/lprng start

and try to print something...

By the way, with hpdj it may be convenient to do some gamma correction
(I haven't done it yet, with my current config), adding to each `gs' 
invocation the name of a file containing for instance 

~~~ CUT HERE ~~~
%!
{0.4 exp} dup dup currenttransfer setcolortransfer


or

~~ CUT HERE ~~~
%!
{0.4 exp} settransfer 
~~~

But this you may try later on.
I don't remember what used to be the preferred value of the parameter for 
gamma correction ("0.4", above) among the users here.
I used to keep this in a filed called /etc/dj870cxi_gamma_correction.ps 

I haven't tried Samba with my current setup yet, but did configure it a
few days ago on another machine with an HP LaserJet 6L (also using lprng
and magicfilter) and everything seemed to run smoothly... 
but only after replacing the original HP Windows drivers with a fresh
set downloaded from HP (with Windows, I usually feel the need to 
follow a brute-force approach).

It would be most desirable if printer manufacturers gave some contribution
to help their printers achieve under Linux the same level of quality

Re: vfat -> cp: file: Operation not permitted

[Pere Camps]

Tino,

> No, there is probably not. It comes from the fact that cp tries to set
> some permissions on the destination file. That is actually not possible
> for VFAT. 

That's a sensible explanation. 

> (I would prefer VFAT to silently ignore that)

Me too. 

Thanks for your help!

-- p.

RE: xdm

[Brian Morgan]

I can't seem to find any file in /etc/X11 that has a line with "start-xdm"
in it.  X (and hence, xdm) is starting on boot.  Is there a way to change
that?  All I've done to make this happen was install the xdm package.  Also,
is there any way to quit the xserver while using xdm without it
automatically bringing back the xdm login screen (and hence starting X
again)?

Thanks for everyone's help.

Brian

> -Original Message-
> From: Colin Telmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 11:45 AM
> To: Andrew Ivanov
> Cc: Brian Morgan; Debian User Group; recipient list not shown:; ;
> Subject: Re: xdm
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Andrew Ivanov wrote:
>
> > > 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx
> instead, what file
> > > to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup
> rather than the
> > > graphical xdm login?
> >
> > /etc/X11/config file has one/more lines, depending on the
> version you use,
> > that mention xdm. For example,
> > start-xdm
> > If you want to get rid of xdm, comment that line out.
>
> I assume the outcome is the same, but to be consistent with the syntax of
> that file, you don't comment it out - you change "start-xdm" to
> "no-start-xdm". Cheers.
>
> --
> Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> 
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