Re: dselect listing
On 12 Nov 1998, Daniel E. Hollis wrote: > I mucked up my package list. I'm trying to install kde and xfree86, the > stable versions. One of the 2 required, so I thought, a xlibc _unstable_ > version. I connected to the local debian distribution ftp site and got the > unstable directory listings. Now, dselect wants to upgrade _everything_ to > the > unstable versions. And to install new software, I can only get dselect to > choose unstable versions. I'd ideally love to chose something like > "install/upgrade stable only" but no such choice exists. I'm willing to go > back and build a new package list form the ftp site, but I don't want to go > and > delete something that conceivably could be keeping track of currently > installed > packages. What should I do? Either: a) use dpkg to install the programs you want from slink by hand b) place all the other packages on hold. HTH, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: star office 5 hangs my system ...
Daniel Mashao wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Adam Shand wrote: > > > > > > I runs fine here. I am running slink and have tried three different > > > kernels, 2.0.32, 2.0.35, and 2.1.127, all work fine. Maybe you need > > > more video RAM? That thing is a resource pig. > > > I am running on a Pentium 233 with 64 Meg and installing StarOffice > crashes my machine too. It crashes everytime I try. Strange. I installed StarOffice5 several times on this machine, a combination of root and user installs, net and non-net installs, before finally deciding I wanted to install it as a regular user in my ~ subdirectory. I had no problems at all with any of those installs. This is on a slink system; a Celeron CPU overclocked to 338mhz with 128MB of RAM and a Diamond Viper 330 (4MB) video card. SO5 is *not* snappy loading, but once up and running it works great and I haven't had any problems with it. -- Regards,| Debian GNU/ __ o http://www.debian.org . |/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy | / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ http://www.golgotha.net | ...because lockups are for convicts...
X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/ failed
hey. i while back upgraded all my x stuff and unfortunately timed it just as the packages had been split up. i managed to figure out what was wrong and patch things back together but now i'm getting this error when i tried to change my xserver from s3v to svga. i'm trying to get work done on my linux box (i don't have a windows box) so if anyone has seen this before help would be *much* appreciated. thanks, adam. ps. also as an aside it appears that the package kbd-data-0.96a-7.deb has disappeared and doesn't exist anywhere. apt says that it's in base but it's not on *any* of the mirrors i've checked (about five). and also, it appears that things have changed between -6 and -7 and xf86setup won't run because it thinks files are missing and so kbd isn't installed.
xterm-debian
Dear all, Where is that page that explaines why we use xterm-debian instead of xterm? Searching for xterm-debian on the debian site only produces the FAQumatic. I have seen this somewhere before (Branden's pages?), and need it RSN, as someone has decided to flame me Thanks, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: /dev/cdrom problem
On Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 11:39:26PM +, Vincent Murphy wrote: > i can't use xplaycd or any other cd playing program as a normal user. > the message i get from xplaycd is that permission is denied to use /dev/cdrom. > i can make the program work using sudo though. > any way i can fix this? See if adding yourself to group disk helps, as in adduser username disk HTH, James
Re: ssh and X11 question: tcp_wrappers?
> Hi, when I ssh to another sshd machine, I can't forward X11 > connections back to the machine where I am logged into the console. I > always get the following error message: this means (surprise, surprise) that tcp_wrappers is denying the forwarded x session. what i do is restrict ssh via tcp_wrappers and then add this line (using the logic that if they can ssh to my box and log in i'm happy for them to forward x sessions back to their box). in your hosts.allow file you need to add this line (on the box you are ssh'd *into*) if you are using tcp_wrappers in advanced mode: sshdfwd-X11: ALL : ALLOW or if you are in normal mode (standard debian i believe): sshdfwd-X11: [EMAIL PROTECTED] adam. Internet Alaska 4050 Lake Otis Pkwy Adam Shand (v) +1 907 562 4636 Anchorage, AK 99508 Technical Lead (f) +1 907 562 4807 - http://www.spack.org/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." - Pablo Picasso -
Re: xterm-debian
On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 12:10:31AM +, M.C. Vernon wrote: > Dear all, > > Where is that page that explaines why we use xterm-debian instead > of xterm? Searching for xterm-debian on the debian site only produces the > FAQumatic. I have seen this somewhere before (Branden's pages?), and need > it RSN, as someone has decided to flame me http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html HTH, James
Re: Problems with StarOffice 5.0 Registration
No, it's still unregistered, because it says so on the title bar, and I've tried reinstalling like 5 times already. That's why I asked the list in the first place -- I can't for the life of me figure out what the problem is with it, and it dosen't seem to bother anyone else. Thanks for trying though. Anyone else have an idea??? L8r, Steve /\ / \ /\ / /\/\ \ /\ Steve Beitzel / /\ /\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \/ \/ \ http://www.iit.edu/~beitste / /\ \ICQ#: 19510745 \ \/ / \ ___/ \ /___\ / \ \___/ / \ / \/ \ / \/ On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, [iso-8859-1] Åsmund Ødegård wrote: > Hi, Steve! > > If the registration button is ghosted, I think the registration is OK. Maybe > this is doen automagically if you do an online registration. You get the reg. > key by email in fact you need to reinstall for some reason. Maybe? > > just my 2¢... > > Wed, 11 Nov Steve Beitzel wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I know that people are always asking questions about how to > > install StarOffice, but I couldn't find an answer in the archives about > > this. I recently downloaded and successfully installed StarOffice 5.0, > > except when I try to do the online registration, it fails for some > > reason. The failure is odd, because I see the webpage that says "Thank > > you for joining StarDivision" and whatever, and I get the Registration key > > by email, but I am not allowed to activate the key -- the program keeps > > that button ghosted. It seems that the online part of the registration > > process was successful and there is something wrong with the program. Any > -- > Åsmund Ødegård > Stipendiat Teknisk programvare > Inst. for Informatikk, Universitetet i Oslo > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- url: http://www.ifi.uio.no/~aasmundo > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: Notebook for Debian
> David Welton wrote: > > Don't want to spend a fortune > > Don't need anything fantastic > > Do want something that works well with Debian > > Don't want to have to use proprietary X servers. I picked up an HP OmniBook 800 a few weeks ago specifically to run Debian. So far I'm delighted. It has only an 800x600 screen, but for $1000 it's sub-4 lbs, tiny, has a full-size keyboard and TFT display, 2+ gig drive, 2 meg VRAM, 2 PCMCIA slots, and detatchable floppy and CDRom (not counted in the weight). Only 16meg of RAM, with another 32 about $70 and $64 $160. 1 year warranty. For battery life I'm getting about 3 hours running in console mode and about 1 hour running X. The server is the NeoMagic one just moved from binary-only to a free part of XF86. It's done everything I've asked of it so far. --Eric House +-+ |from the desktop of: Eric House, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |"The instructions said 'Win98 or better' -- so I installed Linux"| +-+
Re: bogomips
Subject: Re: bogomips Date: Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 12:56:21AM +0100 In reply to:Martin Bialasinski Quoting Martin Bialasinski([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > >> "w" == wtopa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > w> Yes that would seem about right. The problem I have is that my > w> 166MMX gives me 149.9 BogoMips on my Slackware partition and only > w> 130.6 on my Debian partition. Same hardware (same box). > > Same kernelversion? The bogomips implementation changes sometimes. > Yes. 2.0.34/35 on Slackware 149.9. On debian 2.0.34 120 Bogomips and on 2.0.35 130.6. The .config's on both dists are the same as well. Interesting, isn't it. NOT! I am confused by the change in Debian kernels. On Slackware I have gone from 2.0.30 - 35 with no change at all, allways 149.9. I did note that on Slackware 3.5 (just installed) on a scsi drive on sba1, kernel 2.1.127 gets 149.5. This is the first run on that kernel and I have a bunch of new stuff compiled into the kernel, so that _may_ account for the change. Would appreciate it if anyone could give me some reason for the difference in the Debian kernel. Wayne > Ciao, > Martin > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > -- Real Programmers think better when playing Adventure or Rogue. ___ Wayne T. Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sendmail 8.9 on hamm?
I'm running a 'stable' (hamm) system and want to have Sendmail 8.9 for
its spam-blocking abilities. Hamm comes with 8.8.8 which I am not
happy with.
Is there an 8.9 .deb file that will work with hamm?
--Bill.
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Re: Debian and Win32?
On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Chang, FKK wrote: > As I am forced to work with Dos 95 at work here - after a fruitless crusade > to be at least *allowed* to use Debian/TeX, I stumbled upon the Cygnus > win32 - GNU - thing. [...] > This cygnus-win32 base seems an ideal base for distribution of free software > a la Debian, using the cygnus lib instead of the linux kernel. Am I right? [...] > If so, why don't I hear anything of it? If not, why not? Copyright issues? > Money? Fear of M$ lawyers? Others have pointed to Cygnus (and other companies) as a promising route for linux advocacy. I'll see if I can find the URL for a paper advocating just that. > PS The same goes for XFree. Why no X server for 95/NT machines? That's a little easier to explain. XFree86 needs a real Unix to run on, not the pseudo-unix that the cygnus libraries provide. It just can't be ported to Windows easily. However, there is at least one free X server for Windows called MI/X. It's not the fastest one out there, but it's free. (I think it might not be free for commercial use, though.) It might be possible to make a 'Winux' distribution of sorts. It would lack a lot of things (Windows has no named pipes, doesn't do shared memory the same, etc.) but it might be promising enough to lead someone on to better things, and it would be a good training tool. Having graphical programs through X would be necessary, I'd think, to make it a good evangelical tool. There's a replacement shell for Windows that looks very Afterstep-like. Again, I've got a URL somewhere. Put it all together and you could have tricycle that gives people a taste of what it's like to ride the Linux motorcycle. :-> Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computers let you make more mistakes faster than any other invention in human history, with the possible exception of handguns and tequila." Mitch Radcliffe
Unresolved symbols on networking modules
I've seen posts to this list about this problem before, but I can't recall the solution. I'm trying to revive an ip masquerading setup I had in the past, but when I try to start it up a get a long list of unresolved symbols on the net modules. The modules were made and installed after the last kernel compile. Can anyone give me any clues about how to fix this? Thanks. Curt Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting gateway
On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Tomas Petersson wrote: > Hello, I have just reinstalled debian 2.0 on my > computer. For some reason the network has not been > configured correctly. > The netcard seems to work ok, and have a ipaddress assigned. > > Which commands do I have to issue to set up an default route > so I can access the Internet or other computers on my LAN? > I need to use route, or? > > /Tomas Petersson route add default gw IP_OF_GATEWAY (can use hostname too, if you have it entered into /etc/hosts) If you want to configure this on boot, put it in /etc/init.d/network Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with "pgpkey" as subject. - If at first you don't succeed, you must be using Windows. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
speech recognition
Having looked around, I'm pretty sure there's no decent speech recognition for Linux around. Please please correct me if I'm wrong! But am I also right in thinking that running one of the windoze speech rec packages under Wine wouldn't work? What I -really- want is to be able to work in my virtual consoles, using the speech rec to feed keystrokes - so just having it "pretend" to be the keyboard. bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Gay-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak : at a lot of different places, just write a Unix operating : system. -- Linus Torvalds
Re: dselect (or apt) wish list
Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Cant say I have seen this one, but I imagine that dselect is wise to only > delete _installed_ packages.. so there is no need to keep them anyway. > (Unless you actually need them) apt is very *bad* in this place - if you use apt as method in dselect, *all* downloaded and installed packages are deleted without any further question. I live in german and once i upgraded to slink (about 80 megs of download) - this had cost me about 10 DM (i think about 6,5 US-$). All downloads with dselect till now are about 30-40 DM. I'm not very pleased that in the case my harddisk will fail or something else happens and i'm in need to reinstall, i have to download all this again and so once again to invest the all the money. USA people seem to forget that in other contries download may be very expensive. And in each case it always costs time to download the deleted files once again - hey, time is money. I don't understand why an install tool is so dumb to delete packages after they are intalled. If something is to be deleted, *I* decide so, not any tool without questioning me. That's the main cause why i still use method ftp instead of method apt. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.
RE: /dev/cdrom problem
Please include the program's output and the result of: ls -al on the /dev device that /dev/cdrom is linked to. On 12-Nov-98 Vincent Murphy wrote: > i can't use xplaycd or any other cd playing program as a normal user. > the message i get from xplaycd is that permission is denied to use > /dev/cdrom. > i can make the program work using sudo though. > any way i can fix this? > i will supply diagnostics if someone shows me how to get them.
Re: Problems with StarOffice 5.0 Registration
Mine worked. Make sure that you are typing a zero and not an oh when you are puting in your reg #. Also check to make sure that your first and last name and e-mail address are exactly the same as the ones you typed on the web page. You may want to direct any furher queries to the server: starnews.stardivision.com group: stardivision.com.support.installation Steve Beitzel wrote: > > No, it's still unregistered, because it says so on the title bar, and I've > tried reinstalling like 5 times already. That's why I asked the list in > the first place -- I can't for the life of me figure out what the problem > is with it, and it dosen't seem to bother anyone else. Thanks for trying > though. Anyone else have an idea??? > > L8r, > > Steve > > /\ >/ \ > /\ > / /\/\ \ > /\ Steve Beitzel >/ /\ /\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > / \/ \/ \ http://www.iit.edu/~beitste > / /\ \ICQ#: 19510745 > \ \/ / > \ ___/ >\ /___\ / > \ \___/ / > \ / > \/ >\ / > \/ > > On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, [iso-8859-1] Åsmund Ødegård wrote: > > > Hi, Steve! > > > > If the registration button is ghosted, I think the registration is OK. Maybe > > this is doen automagically if you do an online registration. You get the > > reg. > > key by email in fact you need to reinstall for some reason. Maybe? > > > > just my 2¢... > > > > Wed, 11 Nov Steve Beitzel wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I know that people are always asking questions about how to > > > install StarOffice, but I couldn't find an answer in the archives about > > > this. I recently downloaded and successfully installed StarOffice 5.0, > > > except when I try to do the online registration, it fails for some > > > reason. The failure is odd, because I see the webpage that says "Thank > > > you for joining StarDivision" and whatever, and I get the Registration key > > > by email, but I am not allowed to activate the key -- the program keeps > > > that button ghosted. It seems that the online part of the registration > > > process was successful and there is something wrong with the program. Any > > -- > > Åsmund Ødegård > > Stipendiat Teknisk programvare > > Inst. for Informatikk, Universitetet i Oslo > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- url: http://www.ifi.uio.no/~aasmundo > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Kevin Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.concentric.net/~kpm76 ** UN*X ** Live free or die!
Re: dselect (or apt) wish list
On 12 Nov 1998, Stefan Nobis wrote: > Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Cant say I have seen this one, but I imagine that dselect is wise to only > > delete _installed_ packages.. so there is no need to keep them anyway. > > (Unless you actually need them) > > apt is very *bad* in this place - if you use apt as method in dselect, > *all* downloaded and installed packages are deleted without any > further question. > > I live in german and once i upgraded to slink (about 80 megs of > download) - this had cost me about 10 DM (i think about 6,5 US-$). All > downloads with dselect till now are about 30-40 DM. I'm not very > pleased that in the case my harddisk will fail or something else > happens and i'm in need to reinstall, i have to download all this > again and so once again to invest the all the money. > > USA people seem to forget that in other contries download may be very > expensive. > > And in each case it always costs time to download the deleted files > once again - hey, time is money. > > I don't understand why an install tool is so dumb to delete packages > after they are intalled. If something is to be deleted, *I* decide so, > not any tool without questioning me. > > That's the main cause why i still use method ftp instead of method > apt. Easy... as suggested, change the `apt-get clean && ...` line from /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/install to something thus - `true && ...` HTH Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with "pgpkey" as subject. - OFFLINE 1.50 "Virus check complete. All viruses functioning normally" - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: dselect (or apt) wish list
On 12 Nov 1998, Stefan Nobis wrote: > Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Cant say I have seen this one, but I imagine that dselect is wise to only > > delete _installed_ packages.. so there is no need to keep them anyway. > > (Unless you actually need them) > > apt is very *bad* in this place - if you use apt as method in dselect, > *all* downloaded and installed packages are deleted without any > further question. > > I live in german and once i upgraded to slink (about 80 megs of > download) - this had cost me about 10 DM (i think about 6,5 US-$). All > downloads with dselect till now are about 30-40 DM. I'm not very > pleased that in the case my harddisk will fail or something else > happens and i'm in need to reinstall, i have to download all this > again and so once again to invest the all the money. > > USA people seem to forget that in other contries download may be very > expensive. > > And in each case it always costs time to download the deleted files > once again - hey, time is money. > > I don't understand why an install tool is so dumb to delete packages > after they are intalled. If something is to be deleted, *I* decide so, > not any tool without questioning me. > > That's the main cause why i still use method ftp instead of method > apt. Doesn't dselect delete them after installation regardless of the method? apt-get WITHOUT dselect won't delete the files until you tell it to with 'apt-get clean'. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: SIOCADDRT error message
Are you running a 2.1.x kernel? If so comment out the route commands in /etc/init.d/network and read linux/Documentation/Changes in the kernel source. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 8 316 2486modem +61 8 364-9832 32S, 116E vk6lj =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I also get this error message on boot. The route command seems to be > broken, as the route manpage syntax will not add the loopback route > and generates this message. Don't know enough about it to tell exactly > what is broken (package-wise). > -- > Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PGP KEYS D/H 0xB65DC61A RSA 0x935801A9 > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: bogomips
-> > w> Yes that would seem about right. The problem I have is that my -> > w> 166MMX gives me 149.9 BogoMips on my Slackware partition and only -> > w> 130.6 on my Debian partition. Same hardware (same box). -> > -> > Same kernelversion? The bogomips implementation changes sometimes. -> -> Yes. 2.0.34/35 on Slackware 149.9. On debian 2.0.34 120 Bogomips and -> on 2.0.35 130.6. The .config's on both dists are the same as well. -> Interesting, isn't it. NOT! I am confused by the change in Debian -> kernels. On Slackware I have gone from 2.0.30 - 35 with no change at -> all, allways 149.9. I did note that on Slackware 3.5 (just installed) -> on a scsi drive on sba1, kernel 2.1.127 gets 149.5. This is the first -> run on that kernel and I have a bunch of new stuff compiled into the -> kernel, so that _may_ account for the change. get kernel source and recompile it; do kernels say other number by booting or by runnning bogomips command ? does someone apply any patches to kernels used by debian ? -- Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, sysadmin at NETLAB+ Kosice, Slovakia BIC coord for *.sk; admin of netlab.irc.sk; co-admin of irc.felk.cvut.cz
Re: XEmacs shell garbage
Thank Thorsten, I will read the documentation to term-mode, hope this will help me ! Marcus Torsten Hilbrich wrote: > > On: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:09:20 +0100 Marcus Geiger writes: > > > > XEmacs-Shell-mode doesn't seem to work correctly. I get some > > [ldksjf] <- control-codes in braces. My machine is setup for > > german-keymaps and I installed the german-package. > > I have no strange output while executing normal command line command > from within shell mode. However, don't expect any application using > terminal capacities to work correctly (to name a few, vi, less). > > > > > Does any has an idea. Is it possible that the terminal mode irritates > > Xemacs-shell-mode ? > > Yes. The Shell mode is quite simple, it does not provide any terminal > capacities. XEmacs sets the TERM variable to emacs, so you should > make special features such as colored ls output dependend on the > terminal variable. If you want to use a full-featured terminal try > the M-x term command and read the help on terminal-emulator before to > know how to leave this buffer. > > Torsten > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Problems with StarOffice 5.0 Registration
Steve, I am having the same problem registering StarOffice 5.0 that you explained. When I try to do an online registration I get the HTML page and email with my Customer Number and Registration Key, but there is a failure. When I try to enter the Customer Number and Registration Key by hand the Enable Key button is greyed out. If you manage to get past this problem can forward on your solution. Thanks. D.L. / David Lutz --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://www.pobox.com/~lutzd \ | Those of you who think you know everything : KD6GNS Portland, OR | \ are annoying those of us who really do.: '97 Toyota Tacoma SR5 /
Re: Telling apt where my files are...
On: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:24:32 - Moore, Paul writes: [...] > PS I'd like to do apt-get upgrade (or even dist-upgrade) but I don't > want to do the multi-megabyte download all at once. Can I get apt to > tell me what would be done by a [dist-]upgrade and then let me do it > in stages? apt-get --no-act upgrade > PPS Someone here has been talking about getting apt to let me retain > downloaded sources after the upgrade. I agree, that would be useful > for me, too. Maybe allow a "cache" directory to be specified, where > downloaded sources get cached (a zip drive, say). And add an extra > "type" for sources.list which lets apt point at that cache as > another (incomplete) distribution source... /var/cache/apt/lists is the cache for packages downloaded by apt-get. Torsten
Re: X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/ failed
> > hey. > > i while back upgraded all my x stuff and unfortunately timed it just as > the packages had been split up. i managed to figure out what was wrong > and patch things back together but now i'm getting this error when i tried > to change my xserver from s3v to svga. > > i'm trying to get work done on my linux box (i don't have a windows box) > so if anyone has seen this before help would be *much* appreciated. /usr/bin/X11 is a directory - no wonder it won't exec. I got this when upgrading too. Somewhere along the upgrade I was asked if I wanted to change the xserver to something, and said yes. It messed up somehow and set the default xserver to " " I didn't know too much about setting up X so I went back to hamm X, then I understood this, upgraded again and answered "no" to the change question. You can probably fix it a lot faster by deinstalling your favourite xserver package and reinstalling it. Or even better - just change the default to the server you want to use. I don't know how to do that though. By the way, why do you want to change from s3v to svga? I use s3v without problems, is svga faster or do you have a stability problem? Helge Hafting
Re: X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/ failed
Hi, Adam! On Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 03:06:52PM -0900, Adam Shand wrote : > i while back upgraded all my x stuff and unfortunately timed it just as > the packages had been split up. i managed to figure out what was wrong > and patch things back together but now i'm getting this error when i tried > to change my xserver from s3v to svga. The first line of the file '/etc/X11/Xserver' tells X where to find the server. I think your line looks something like this: /usr/bin/X11/ set it to '/usr/bin/X11/XF86_S3V' after you hav installed the server and it should work. I have still got the 'old' X11 packages but I think it should work with the slink ones the same way. HTH Regards, Mika -- Mika Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
xearth 1.0: fatal - unable to allocate enough colors
How can I solve the problems of colors on my system. I installed gnome and it always comes up with pepper noise. Apps such as xearth cannot run as they do not have enough colors. /--/ Daniel J. Mashao Electrical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Cape Town http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel Rondebosch, 7700, S. Africa (w) 27+21+650 2816 (h) 27+21+705 8469 /--/
Re: star office 5 hangs my system ...
On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Adam Shand wrote: > > > I am running on a Pentium 233 with 64 Meg and installing StarOffice > > crashes my machine too. It crashes everytime I try. I think it damaged > > my partition somehow. Now its time to get gwp working. > > which x server are you using? i'm in the process of converting from s3v > to svga, and if it still gives me problems i'll probably try accelerated x > cause i need this to work. > I use s3v for s3_Virge card. I do not think the problem is with the video card. /--/ Daniel J. Mashao Electrical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Cape Town http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel Rondebosch, 7700, S. Africa (w) 27+21+650 2816 (h) 27+21+705 8469 /--/
Re: ISP
On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:51:32 -0800 (PST) Lazar Fleysher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could some one tell me how to set up an ISP on Linux. I remember seeing a > howto on the subject, but can not seem to find it. How to apply for > IPaddresses? I seem to recall having seen one once as well, but it seems to have fallen out of distribution. It was called the Linux-ISP-HOWTO (or something along those lines). I do, however, suggest that if you don't already know how to do this, and you are thinking of setting up a commercial ISP, then you are definately biting off more than you can chew! However, if you want to set up a box to have a few friends log into, have a look at IPMasq and mgetty. That should allow you to have ppl. connect via PPP. Cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | As my head fell in the basket, Network Administrator | And was everyone dancing on the casket... EmpireNET | - TBMG, "Dead"
Problems with kdelibs and other libs
Hi all, I have the following problem with kde and debian 2.0: I have installed all the required deb packages (kdebase, kdelibs0g, qt1g) without any problems. All the packages are correctly installed and configured; when I try to start kde (or kdm) I get the following message: kaudioserver: error in loading shared libraries libmediatool.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory kfm: error in loading shared libraries libkhtmlw.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory kcontrol: error in loading shared libraries libkdeui.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory kbgndwm: error in loading shared libraries libkdeui.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory krootwm: error in loading shared libraries libkfm.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory kwmsound: error in loading shared libraries libkdeui.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory kpanel: error in loading shared libraries libkfm.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory /usr/bin/X11/kde: krdb: command not found kwm: error in loading shared libraries libkfm.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory But all the libs are actually in /usr/X11R6/lib!! I've already had a similar problem with libg++ and libstdc++: some apps says they cannot find the libs while the libs are presents. Any ideas? Thank you! Cesare Tagliaferri
Strange encoding official CD from Linuxpress
Hi all, I shelled out good money (Swedish) to purchase the official 2.0 distribution from Linuxpress. However, as soon as I mounted the CD to begin the upgrade, strange things appeared when I did this: [root]:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only [root]:~# ls -l /cdrom/ total 14 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 263 Jul 24 04:14 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2596 Jul 24 04:14 README dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 24 04:14 boot dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 24 04:13 debian dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 24 04:14 install dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 24 04:14 tools dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 17 17:33 upgrade [root]:~# The permissions are whacked! And the file README is a symlink to something, yet it appears to be an executable. All symlinks had this "feature", making upgrading a potential disaster. The source CD had the same problem, but the Extras CD was OK. I've compiled the kernel with FAT32 support, but the CD should be Rock Ridge. I tried mounting it without the RR support (mount -t iso9660 -o norock) but it didn't change anything. Has anyone had the same problem? I tried searching the archives, the websites for Debian and Linuxpress, and Dejanews, but couldn't find anything. TIA, /g. P.S. If any cruft is attached to this message, blame Lotus Notes -- I'm posting from work.
Re: Strange encoding official CD from Linuxpress
> [root]:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom > mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only This is entirely correct. CDROMS are write-protected by definition (unless you have a burner) > [root]:~# ls -l /cdrom/ > total 14 > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 263 Jul 24 04:14 table> > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2596 Jul 24 04:14 README > dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 24 04:14 boot > dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 24 04:13 debian > dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 24 04:14 install > dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 24 04:14 tools > dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jul 17 17:33 upgrade > [root]:~# > > The permissions are whacked! And the file README is a symlink to something, > yet it appears to be an executable. All symlinks had this "feature", making > upgrading a potential disaster. HmmmI doubt this matters that much. What happens when you try to install? Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: star office 5 hangs my system ...
On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 11:48:08AM +0200, Daniel Mashao wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Adam Shand wrote: > > > > > > I am running on a Pentium 233 with 64 Meg and installing StarOffice > > > crashes my machine too. It crashes everytime I try. I think it damaged > > > my partition somehow. Now its time to get gwp working. > > > > which x server are you using? i'm in the process of converting from s3v > > to svga, and if it still gives me problems i'll probably try accelerated x > > cause i need this to work. > > > I use s3v for s3_Virge card. I do not think the problem is with the video > card. there is not a problem with: -videocard -memory -hd_capacity my so 5.0 hangs up also but can't not repro the same hangup. Therefore I think it's simply is a bug ;-) my system: board SOYO EHM 5 128 mb Ram 6ns hdscsi 2x 4.1 GB video millenium mystique 4 mb printer djet 500 test-printing is ok from so but printing a edited text -> so hangs up after changing font-size or font or unaspected also I've removed so waiting for so 5.1 ma be solved the problems ;-) -- cheers Peter
Re: Unresolved symbols on networking modules
Hi Curt, On Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 08:54:50PM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: > I've seen posts to this list about this problem before, but I > can't recall the solution. I'm trying to revive an ip > masquerading setup I had in the past, but when I try to start it > up a get a long list of unresolved symbols on the net modules. > The modules were made and installed after the last kernel compile. > Can anyone give me any clues about how to fix this? OK: You have to configure the modules out with (*) cd /usr/src/linux should a link to kernel-path You have a /usr/src like this(?) drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 Nov 3 14:04 kernel-headers-2.0.35 -rw-r--r-- 1 root src662122 Nov 10 04:04 kernel-image-2.0.35_custom.1.0_i386.deb drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 1024 Nov 11 16:33 kernel-source-2.0.35 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 Nov 2 03:55 liblockdev-0.9 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src20 Nov 3 16:25 linux -> kernel-source-2.0.35 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root src20 Nov 3 14:19 linux-2.0.35 -> kernel-source-2.0.35 drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 1024 Nov 2 03:53 redhat make xconfig, or make menuconfig, or make config is the modular setting, after saving the new systemmap now You have to build the kernel The 2 Ways to build kernel after (*) traditional: make dep clean make zImage (or if kernel exceeds 512 KB make bzImage) make modules make modules_install depmod -a make zlilo the up-to-date-way: e.g. make menuconfig make-kpgk clean make-kpgk --rootcmd fakeroot --revision=custom1.0 kernel_image dpkg -i ../kernel-image-2.0.35_custom.1.0_i386.deb this is the preffered method You have installed the modules and called depmod -a automatically. Before You can do this You must install the kernel-package, get it from debian via ftp search in development-package -- cheers Peter
Re: Unresolved symbols on networking modules--SOLVED
So I'll answer my own post: Though all other modules worked, and I had only one version of modules installed, somehow the ipmasq pieces were not recognized. A reinstall of the kernel-image using the kernel-package utility solved it. On Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 08:54:50PM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: > I've seen posts to this list about this problem before, but I > can't recall the solution. I'm trying to revive an ip > masquerading setup I had in the past, but when I try to start it > up a get a long list of unresolved symbols on the net modules. > The modules were made and installed after the last kernel compile. > Can anyone give me any clues about how to fix this? > > Thanks. > > Curt Daugaard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Curt
apt, or a good http source
Well, I haven't had much joy with apt. It works fine, unfortunately, I can't find a decent http server to connect to. (I can't use ftp because I'm behind a firewall and have to proxy). I've tried a couple from the mirror sites listing, but they seem to have problems finding packages. Can anyone recommend an http debian mirror? -- Andrew Tarr "We were so close to heaven --- Peter came out and gave us badges, proclaiming us `The Nicest of the Damned'" -- They Might Be Giants
Re: Problems with kdelibs and other libs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Cesare Tagliaferri wrote: > Hi all, > I have the following problem with kde and debian 2.0: I have installed > all > the required deb packages (kdebase, kdelibs0g, qt1g) without any problems. > All > the packages are correctly installed and configured; when I try to start kde > (or kdm) I get the following message: Well, try running ldconfig as root. That should fix the problems with existing libraries not being seen at runtime. Also be aware that due to a bug in the KDE packages, you need to install kdelibs0g-dev in addition to the rest of the runtime packages. This should fix your problem. noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNkwfdodCcpBjGWoFAQGkogP9HJNJLcINXkbMI2xc7PLcP4a1JQ8HM3xW yWVzby905tDPOeeJlVrpCnnj+mIBuOyF83TfJ+nqre4nYrIvMTA4N7d+ZY1W4AzX 2Z5iaV33jxCP7N22YHUPOn64fEZACyBtasFwK8qKoQ61ndo3QEI70foJhJMSVWqa 8P+s96asIvg= =638j -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Debian and Win32?
> There's a replacement shell for Windows that looks very Afterstep-like. >Again, I've got a URL somewhere. Put it all together and you could have >tricycle that gives people a taste of what it's like to ride the Linux >motorcycle. :-> > > Sincerely, > Look at http://www.litestep.net
Re: Debian and Win32?
Sorry, I forgot another site which lists all alternatives to Windows Explorer: http://www.msoe.edu/~rookd/wm/
mirror
HI all, Any mirror users out there, how do i force it to download the files that symlink's on a remote site point to, ive had no success, it just ignores them. Thanx
Re: star office 5 hangs my system ...
To all in Debian Land, I have successful installed and run Star Office 5, the only problem I had was downloading it in the first place I am using a fairly standard 'Hamm' install and running an external Xserver for my Neomagic videocard in my laptop. I have not had any real problems yet, but have not Star Office for anything more than loading and editing a few (non-fast save) word97 documents. I also found the installation easy to do, just followed the instructions. However I had the feeling that the registration had not worked, until I realised that you have to register twice (a little strange but there you go). You need to register when you first install Star Office and then when you first run Star Office you can either register On-line or by printing and sending a registration form. I used the On-line registration and it worked first time... Hope this helps in some way. John. Jens Ritter wrote: > Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > has anyone else managed to get star office 5 to work? i've been eagerly > > awaiting the official release of star office 5 because everytime i ran the > > pre-release it would get to the welcome screen and then lock my entire X > > display and i had to reboot to get things back under control (i could > > telnet in and start x that way and i would work okay but as soon as i > > exited X it would go back to the original frozen display). > > > > has anyone else had this problem and solved it? i would love to run star > > office but am a little disappointed in the 'ease of install' :-) -- John Stevenson, Objective Alliance: www.oa.nl "Objects are not a technology, they are a state of mind"
Re: Problems with StarOffice 5.0 Registration
Hello All, Reading these emails has reminded me of something strange about the registration process. When registering On-line I was prompted for my customer number and my key. The problem was I was not aware of having a customer number, so simply entered my email address, then the key from the web page. This allowed me to continue the On-line registration and successfully compelete it. Then I was given my customer number both by the document and then later by email. Does anyone else find this a little 'counter-intuative' or as we say in England 'a bit silly' John David Lutz wrote: > Steve, > I am having the same problem registering StarOffice 5.0 that you > explained. When I try to do an online registration I get the HTML page > and email with my Customer Number and Registration Key, but there is a > failure. When I try to enter the Customer Number and Registration Key by > hand the Enable Key button is greyed out. If you manage to get past this > problem can forward on your solution. Thanks. > > D.L. > > / David Lutz --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://www.pobox.com/~lutzd \ > | Those of you who think you know everything : KD6GNS Portland, OR | > \ are annoying those of us who really do.: '97 Toyota Tacoma SR5 / > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- John Stevenson, Objective Alliance: www.oa.nl "Objects are not a technology, they are a state of mind"
boot from CD ?
Hi Is the 2.0_r1 CD image bootable ? I have to burn it here on work and I don't know how to make a bootable CD out of it. As far as I understand, I need to make an El-Torento(?) CD-Rom, i.e. one .raw file which contains a bootable HD partition and one .raw file that will be the "normal" CD content. How to make this boot .raw file ? (Seems to me that there must be some README, but I can't find it.) read you, -christian- -- Christian Hammers Westend Informatik und Netzwerke GbR Tel 0241/701333-0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] DPN Verbund-Partner Aachen u. Dueren Fax 0241/911879
Re: apt, or a good http source
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Andrew wrote: > Well, I haven't had much joy with apt. It works fine, unfortunately, I can't > find a decent http server to connect to. (I can't use ftp because I'm behind a > firewall and have to proxy). I've tried a couple from the mirror sites > listing, but they seem to have problems finding packages. Can anyone recommend > an http debian mirror? > http.us.debian.org (it's actually more than one server, so if a problem exists - just retry, and it'll probably try another of those servers) /Frock -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNkw8FHW12WXN0ic5AQFh1wP/dyneG4m/VjuoQ/t1df3DxtRyhRb37imt V/SNGulAjNDDDq01ZGbWzIfahOpH9EJKMg88zTpo6ZKp+5HlNMyu1mfbPURORpAq cilsE1pwbhxglYfdrz4DGJp+cazvmvpz8rFgQ1ufAuSeCT6FzBAI+MZXO1UNFf1L vl0Fncq4wBU= =TGL7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xterm-debian
*- James Dietrich wrote about "Re: xterm-debian" > On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 12:10:31AM +, M.C. Vernon wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> Where is that page that explaines why we use xterm-debian instead >> of xterm? Searching for xterm-debian on the debian site only produces the >> FAQumatic. I have seen this somewhere before (Branden's pages?), and need >> it RSN, as someone has decided to flame me > > http://master.debian.org/~branden/xsf.html Also look in /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian, which has a lot of the same info. -- Brian - "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." - unknown Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
RE: xearth 1.0: fatal - unable to allocate enough colors
The "pepper noise" is esound loading. The color map issue is probably caused by some programs in GNOME eating colors. Try loading xearth w/o GNOME running and see if that helps. You failed to mention what window manager you are using. it is the window managers job to control the color palette. So you could also try switching window managers. On 13-Nov-98 Daniel Mashao wrote: > How can I solve the problems of colors on my system. I installed gnome and > it always comes up with pepper noise. Apps such as xearth cannot run as > they do not have enough colors. >
Stacker
Dear People, if I did not do this right it is probably based in this being my first email having just joined the list. I am currently using Stacker for DOS (PCDOS 7.0). I would like to experiment with Linux on a 170Meg removable harddisk (from my 750C with 20Meg DRAM). With PCDOS I use win 3.1, a PC card (II), as well as parallel port connected (manual swap) Calcomp drawing slate with pressure pen, Logitec scanner, and Lexmark laser printer. The PC Card (PCMCIA) is my modem (Megahertz). Suggestions as to both 'submission' and content? Thanks. John John & Mary Lill Colvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
compile error with a source package
Hello there, I got a source package for my hp scanjet scanner and tried to compile it. I'm new at programming or fixing code. I was wondering if you could give me some pointers where to look to fix the error, I am also going to give you the lsm of the package that I am trying to compile. Thanks Paul LSM file Begin3 Title: hpscan - HP ScanJet (Plus) low level device driver Version:0.1.1.8 Entered-date: 09OCT95 Description:This is a low level driver for the HP ScanJet and (hopefully) HP ScanJet Plus scanners. This driver should behave mostly like the HPSCAN device for DOS. Keywords: HP ScanJet HPSCAN Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christer Weinigel) Primary-site: ctrl-c.liu.se /unix/linux/wingel hpscan-0_1_1_8_tar.gz Alternate-site: sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/kernel/patches/scanners hpscan-0.1.1.8.tar.gz Platforms: Linux, HP ScanJet (Plus) Copying-policy: Freely distributable End Error file of output of the make file. cc -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DCONFIG_MODVERSIONS -DKERNEL_VERSION=\"2.1.125\" -c hpscan.c -o hpscan.o hpscan.c: In function `hpsj_detect': hpscan.c:127: warning: suggest parentheses around comparison in operand of & hpscan.c: At top level: hpscan.c:511: redefinition of `kernel_version' /usr/include/linux/module.h:95: `kernel_version' previously defined here make: *** [hpscan.o] Error 1 Thanks again.
Re: Strange encoding official CD from Linuxpress
On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snip ] : The permissions are whacked! And the file README is a symlink to something, : yet it appears to be an executable. All symlinks had this "feature", making : upgrading a potential disaster. : : The source CD had the same problem, but the Extras CD was OK. : : I've compiled the kernel with FAT32 support, but the CD should be Rock : Ridge. I tried mounting it without the RR support (mount -t iso9660 -o : norock) but it didn't change anything. mount -t iso9660 -o nojoliet /dev/hbd /cdrom -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Unresolved symbols on networking modules
On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Curt Daugaard wrote: > I've seen posts to this list about this problem before, but I > can't recall the solution. I'm trying to revive an ip > masquerading setup I had in the past, but when I try to start it > up a get a long list of unresolved symbols on the net modules. > The modules were made and installed after the last kernel compile. > Can anyone give me any clues about how to fix this? Did you rerun "depmod -a"? I tend to solve these problems by recompiling the kernel and modules, removing the old /lib/modules/ directory, installing the new kernel and modules, running depmod -a, rebooting, and rerunning depmod -a. -- Jean Pierre
Starting out trouble
Hello, I'm just starting out with Linux and am not fairing all too well. The system seems to be up and running even though it took almost ten hours for it to load. Not a good start. The computer is an old (1996) Intergraph dual P133 w/128m RAM, SB16, Adaptec SCSI, a SCSI CDROM and two SCSI HDs. The Linux version was recently acquired through Cheap Bytes. The program xdm says it's loaded, but there is no gui visible, just the prompt. Perhaps I misunderstood what xdm is, at least I have a prompt. I tried startx and it said no such file or directory. Whatever, I'll eventually figure it out. The reason I'm writing is because it has this penguin come on the screen during the boot sequence. It also has system info depicted alongside it. This info states the Linux version is 2.0.34 the cpu is 75+ with 65 megs of RAM and it's got or is doing 4.61 bogomips. All of the above should not be except the Linux version. How do I go about getting Linux to recognize the system correctly? The boot sees it all correctly including the correct ID of the SCSI drives. I screwed up somewhere, big time. Bill
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Hello: After searching the web for information I am now more confused than ever. Maybe you can help. I want to develop a Community FreeNet,but I am unhappy with what I have seen in other cities. When members/guests sign on I would like them to experience an "AOL" type of community. My quandary is with Web, Mail, Chat, FTP, & News server applications which will I need to add to Debian and which are compatible and how should they interlink ie: separate boxes? Your assistance in this matter will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Bill __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Starting out trouble
Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill> The program xdm says it's loaded, but there is no gui visible, Bill> just the prompt. Perhaps I misunderstood what xdm is, at least I Bill> have a prompt. I tried startx and it said no such file or Bill> directory. Whatever, I'll eventually figure it out. Hmm...have you installed the X packages? Have you set up your X server via xf86config or XF86Setup? Bill> The reason I'm writing is because it has this penguin come on Bill> the screen during the boot sequence. It also has system info Bill> depicted alongside it. This info states the Linux version is Bill> 2.0.34 the cpu is 75+ with 65 megs of RAM and it's got or is Bill> doing 4.61 bogomips. This is probably the work of the linuxlogo package. :-) But the information it gets comes from the kernel. This information is: Kernel version: 2.0.34, which is correct. CPU type: "Pentium 75+ Processor", which is technically correct (your 133 MHz CPU is 75 MHz or faster). The kernel doesn't differentiate any more than that. Memory: "64M RAM", which is all the kernel sees by default. See /usr/doc/kernel-doc-2.0.34/Documentation/memory.txt.gz for details and some workarounds. (You may need to install the kernel-doc-2.0.34 package first.) Bill> All of the above should not be except the Linux version. How do Bill> I go about getting Linux to recognize the system correctly? The Bill> boot sees it all correctly including the correct ID of the SCSI Bill> drives. I screwed up somewhere, big time. Well, not really: it sounds like you have some X problems, and X is notoriously hard to configure, and you need to do a bit of work to get from 64MB of RAM to 128MB. Besides that, your system is in pretty decent shape, it sounds like. -- _ / \ "Dad was reading a book called | David Maze | _Schroedinger's Kittens_. Asexual | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | reproduction? Only one cat is in the box." | http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ | -- Abra Mitchell \_/
Re: boot from CD ?
On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Christian Hammers wrote: > Hi > > Is the 2.0_r1 CD image bootable ? I have to burn it here on work and > I don't know how to make a bootable CD out of it. > > As far as I understand, I need to make an El-Torento(?) CD-Rom, i.e. > one .raw file which contains a bootable HD partition and one .raw > file that will be the "normal" CD content. > > How to make this boot .raw file ? You should just be able to burn the raw Debian image onto the disc and boot it. I've burned about twenty Debian 2.0 CDs and, as far as I know, they've all been bootable from CD-ROM on systems that support CD-ROM booting. I use a Macintosh CD burning program (Adaptec Toast), so I'm not sure what you'd do on any other system, but on the Mac I just tell it to burn that file as an image (as opposed to a ISO-9660 disc (which will just burn the file onto the disc, pretty useless)) and away it goes. Also -- 2.0R3 has been released in image form -- you might want to go for that one as it is (presumably) more up to date. -- adr
Netscape 4.0x - segfault ; Netscape 4.5 - bus error.
Ok...I have a interesting problem. Since changing from stampede 0.86 to a fresh debian 2.0 installation, I am having some problems with netscape. First of all..all the latest versions (4.06, 4.07, 4.08 and so on) crashes with a seg fault, without apparent reasons. The crashing line seems to contain a strncmp. Secondly the old glibc 4.5 version, instead gets a bus error. (Full ltrace, strace and ldd logs excluded due to size. If you think they'll help, mail me and I'll mail them to you.) Grateful for any help/guesses/hints/rambles ;) //Anders Holmquist -- Soul & Mind
Re: ISP
Here are a couple: A nice background with a lot of info So you wanna be an Internet Service Provider ISP) - http://www.vicnet.net.au/vicnet/help/isp.htm A lot of links with 'The Linux-ISP-HOWTO' as the first link (a good link as of this morning) Linux ISP - http://www.anime.net/linuxisp/ These should get you started. Enjoy Greg Damon Muller wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:51:32 -0800 (PST) > Lazar Fleysher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Could some one tell me how to set up an ISP on Linux. I remember seeing a > > howto on the subject, but can not seem to find it. How to apply for > > IPaddresses? > > I seem to recall having seen one once as well, but it seems to have > fallen out of distribution. It was called the Linux-ISP-HOWTO (or > something along those lines). I do, however, suggest that if you don't > already know how to do this, and you are thinking of setting up a > commercial ISP, then you are definately biting off more than you can > chew! > > However, if you want to set up a box to have a few friends log into, > have a look at IPMasq and mgetty. That should allow you to have ppl. > connect via PPP. > > Cheers, > > damon > > -- > Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | As my head fell in the basket, > Network Administrator | And was everyone dancing on the casket... > EmpireNET | - TBMG, "Dead" > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Greg Frye, APS California Environmental Protection Agency Air Resources Board Monitoring and Laboratory Division 1927 13th Street P. O. Box 2815 Sacramento, CA 95812-2815 voice: 916-324-8892 fax: 916-327-8217
Re: bogomips
Subject: Re: bogomips Date: Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 07:27:12AM -0600 > > I remember back in '98 when [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yes. 2.0.34/35 on Slackware 149.9. On debian 2.0.34 120 Bogomips and > > on 2.0.35 130.6. The .config's on both dists are the same as well. > > Interesting, isn't it. NOT! > <...> > > > > Would appreciate it if anyone could give me some reason for the > > difference in the Debian kernel. > > As someone mentioned, it could be that there are some patches in the > Debian kernel, not in the slackware. Realize that Bogomips are > really sensative to alignment in memory, if the loop is in the wrong > place it could change the numbers. Also you could be using > different versions of the C compiler on the different machines. > try typing gcc --version on both. > > gcc 2.7.2.x is the official compiler for the linux kernel, at least in > Linus' mind. There have been on-and-off report of breakage with > gcc 2.8.x and (especially) egcc. Go look on linux-kernel for > anything by Linux with egcc in the subject line for more info.. > > Matt Matt may have found the link. I just went to the 3 dists and got the following: Debian slink %gcc --version gcc 2.7.2.3 Slackware 3.3 %gcc --version gcc-2.7.2.2 Slackware 3.5 %gcc --version egcs-2.9.29 980515 egcs 1.0.3 NOTE: Debian uses glibc while Slackware is still using libc. So I got the source for gcc-2.7.2.3 and compiled it for the Slack3.3 dist. (Yea, I know, I have too much spare time!) I installed the new version (%gcc --version gcc-2.7.2.3 ), and recompilied linux-2.0.35. and rebooted. Slackware _again_ reports BogoMips at 149.91, now with kernel compiled with gcc-2.7.2.3. So that doesn't look like it is/was the cause. Now I will take the kernel source from ftp.kernel.org for 2.0.35 and compile it on Debian with make dep,clean and zImage, make a boot floppy and see if that changes anything. No, it didn't. Debian still says that BogoMips = 130.66. So that leads me to believe the kernel-source.deb files are ok, so is gcc-2.7.2.3. Leaves glibc. That I will not change! OK, someone said that the BogoMips are meaningless. It just might be that he is correct. I have just noticed something I hadn't found before. I have saytime running in cron and it reports the time on the hour. On Slackware (149.91 Bogomips) the time is "the hour and 1 sec", on Debian (130.66 BogoMips) the time is "the hour exactly"! Well I had fun tracking this down but, to me anyway, BogoMips is a nice number but I won't lose any sleep over differences between distributions. Hope this answers my question? Or does it??? Wayne > -- > /* Matt Sayler -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- atwork?astronomy:cs >http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/mpsayler -- (512)471-7450 >Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? */ > -- If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage. But this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine, is somehow enobled and none dare criticize it. ___ Wayne T. Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: comuunity FreeNet front end
Here's something which may get you started: http://demo.obsidian.co.za/ This thing provides all kinds of interesting things users can do, including administration of your server! William Temple wrote: > Hello: > After searching the web for information I am now more confused than > ever. Maybe you can help. I want to develop a Community FreeNet,but > I am unhappy with what I have seen in other cities. When members/guests > sign on I would like them to experience an "AOL" type of community. My > quandary is with Web, Mail, Chat, FTP, & News server applications which > will I need to add to Debian and which are compatible and how should > they interlink ie: separate boxes? Your assistance in this matter will > be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. > Bill > > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
remote printing problems
I work at a public hospital in Portugal. The hospital has a LAN of almost 300 personal computers. The vertical distribution is made through a FDDI ring and the horizontal distribution is made through Ethernet. You have a Novell Netware 4.11 server with a software installed called Unix to Netware Print Services and its function is mainly as a print server. Recently I got a system with Debian Linux 2.0.34 and I was trying to define a remote printer. I edited the /etc/printcap file and put the following lines: info_dj01|rlp|Remote printer entry :rm=Netware :rp=info_dj01 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote :mx#0 :sh When I print the file /etc/hosts with the command lp d info_dj01 /etc/hosts I receive the following error: info_dj01: Link_send: PROTOCOL ERROR - pending input from ´Netware´ after ACK received. Question: How can I eliminate this error ? Although the file is printed in my HP Deskjet printer, it seems that is missing a carriage return and my printed file looks like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.70.108.250hph_linux. Question: How can I get my file printed correctly in my deskjet printer ? I got a banner for every file I print. I try to use the command lp d info_dj01 o nobanner /etc/hosts, and the result is only a form feed, a white sheet of paper, with no banner and no file. Question: How can I eliminate the banner ? Thank you for your help. _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Qt .deb files
Hi, I am thinking of installing debian again, but I am wondering were I can find the Qt free stuff as a .deb file. I do not have much Linux knowledge, but would like to run KDE if possible. Thanks for your help. Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt .deb files
On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Marc van der Vossen wrote: > Hi, > > I am thinking of installing debian again, but I am wondering were I can find > the Qt free stuff as a .deb file. I do not have much Linux knowledge, but > would like to run KDE if possible. > > Thanks for your help. > > Marc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > KDE is already packaged for Debian, I just installed it a couple of days ago to check it out. kdebase is the basic package. There are other KDE-related packages too, I would just search on 'kde' in dselect and see what you might want. KDE worked easily for me, seems well documented and didn't crash (it is beta software I believe).
RE: xearth 1.0: fatal - unable to allocate enough colors
On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Shaleh wrote: > The "pepper noise" is esound loading. The color map issue is probably caused > by some programs in GNOME eating colors. Try loading xearth w/o GNOME running > and see if that helps. > > You failed to mention what window manager you are using. it is the window > managers job to control the color palette. So you could also try switching > window managers. > I have recently switched to fvwm2. Does anyone know how many colors I have if the depth is set at 8. Do not say 256 because I am not using that many colors to have 256 colors exhausted. Thanks for you response. /--/ Daniel J. Mashao Electrical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Cape Town http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel Rondebosch, 7700, S. Africa (w) 27+21+650 2816 (h) 27+21+705 8469 /--/
Re: dselect listing
--- "M.C. Vernon" wrote: --- On 12 Nov 1998, Daniel E. Hollis wrote: > I mucked up my package list. I'm trying to install kde and xfree86, the > stable versions. One of the 2 required, so I thought, a xlibc _unstable_ > version. I connected to the local debian distribution ftp site and got the > unstable directory listings. Now, dselect wants to upgrade _everything_ to the > unstable versions. And to install new software, I can only get dselect to > choose unstable versions. I'd ideally love to chose something like > "install/upgrade stable only" but no such choice exists. I'm willing to go > back and build a new package list form the ftp site, but I don't want to go and > delete something that conceivably could be keeping track of currently installed > packages. What should I do? Either: a) use dpkg to install the programs you want from slink by hand b) place all the other packages on hold. --- End of Quoted Text --- This almost answers my question. I have tried to put the unstable packages on hold, but I need to install other packages that x depends on. dselect won't let me install the stable verisons of currently uninstalled packages, because the unstable versions have higher version numbers. dselect only gives me the choice of keeping the package uninstalled or installing the slink version. I would, if this were a single package, d/l the stable release and dpkg it individually. However, I'm trying to install xfree and kde, and my system is 2/3 installed, so I really want to avoid installing the remaining 1/3 via individual packages. My question is, how do I get my package list of stable packages back? I image what I want to do is delete the local list of available packages. I'm leary of deleting any dpkg list, since that could be a quick way into breaking the system. And I certainly don't want to delete the list of packages I have already installed. Thanks again, Dan
RE: xearth 1.0: fatal - unable to allocate enough colors
> > Does anyone know how many colors I have if the depth is set at 8. Do not > say 256 because I am not using that many colors to have 256 colors > exhausted. 8bpp == 256 color 16bpp == 16million 32bpp == 32million The problem w/ colormaps is that some programs were not written well and use way more colors than they should.
Bad primary partition
After doing a low-level format of the hard drive and running a verification check without complaint, I am unable to install Debain because when the installation program runs fdisk to set up the swap partition, it immediately chokes, saying "FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition". I can't believe that the hard drive is bad, as it worked fine under NT before the formatting, and the SCSI disk utilities detect no problems. What can I do? It's a Seagate ST34371W with an Adaptec 2940 Ultra controller. Richard Hall Network Services University of Tennessee
RE: xearth 1.0: fatal - unable to allocate enough colors
On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Shaleh wrote: > > > > Does anyone know how many colors I have if the depth is set at 8. Do not > > say 256 because I am not using that many colors to have 256 colors > > exhausted. > > 8bpp == 256 color > 16bpp == 16million > 32bpp == 32million > > The problem w/ colormaps is that some programs were not written well and use > way more colors than they should. > I have the same problems even if the only thing I have running is gnome panel. I wish this issue can be investigated thouroughly because the colormap problem is not so rife on Windows and it seem sto be a huge thing on Linux. The same applies to fonts by the way. Does this has anything to do with Linux or is it the video card problem? Secondly how can I reclaim lost colormaps or how can I query programs to find how many color maps they are using? By the way in my latest test I removed .Xdefaults file to make sure that there are no colors used. /--/ Daniel J. Mashao Electrical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Cape Town http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel Rondebosch, 7700, S. Africa (w) 27+21+650 2816 (h) 27+21+705 8469 /--/
voice modem
Hi! Lightning killed my modem, so now I need a new one. I'd like a modem, with voice capabilities that can be used under Debian. Does anybody have a working setup and if so, with what modem. feri.
Re: dselect listing
Hello M.C. Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > On 12 Nov 1998, Daniel E. Hollis wrote: > > > I mucked up my package list. ... > b) place all the other packages on hold. Which would be nice if it could be done easily... Open the file /var/lib/dpkg/status and replace: s/^Status: install ok/Status: hold ok/ Somebody add this to the wish list? Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We'll know the future has arrived when every mailer transparently quotes lines that begin with "From ", but no-one remembers why.
Re: Where is makeinfo?
*-Ossama Othman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Is makeinfo available in the unstable tree yet? If so, what package is it | in? I couldn't find one. It should be in tetex-bin. I don't know if it's in unstable. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt .deb files
*-"Marc van der Vossen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | I am thinking of installing debian again, but I am wondering were I can find | the Qt free stuff as a .deb file. I do not have much Linux knowledge, but | would like to run KDE if possible. The runtime files are in: dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386/libs/qt1g_1.40-1.deb You should find packages with kde on ftp.kde.org, I believe. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: xearth 1.0: fatal - unable to allocate enough colors
You seem to be answering your own question. Stop running GNOME panel and see if the problem goes away. If it does, complain to the authors of GNOME panel. In X Windows programming, each app asks for a colormap. If one app asks for a large colormap, the window manager doles out whatever is left to everyone else. Netscape is also a big offender here. You reclaim colormaps by closing the offending apps. It is an issue of X programming that is rather mytical. Most people simply accept the colormap given them by X. Apparently the GNOME panel is not one of them. >> > I have the same problems even if the only thing I have running is gnome > panel. I wish this issue can be investigated thouroughly because the > colormap problem is not so rife on Windows and it seem sto be a huge thing > on Linux. The same applies to fonts by the way. Does this has anything to > do with Linux or is it the video card problem? > > Secondly how can I reclaim lost colormaps or how can I query programs to > find how many color maps they are using? By the way in my latest test I > removed .Xdefaults file to make sure that there are no colors used. > >
Re: Bad primary partition
On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Richard Hall wrote: : After doing a low-level format of the hard drive and running a : verification check without complaint, I am unable to install Debain : because when the installation program runs fdisk to set up the swap : partition, it immediately chokes, saying "FATAL ERROR: Bad primary : partition". I can't believe that the hard drive is bad, as it worked fine : under NT before the formatting, and the SCSI disk utilities detect no : problems. What can I do? Use alt-f2 to get the cli and use fdisk rather than cfdisk. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
slink breaks
I upgraded my system from hamm to slink (not entirely by choice) and encountered a number of problems. I seem to have fixed most of them, except Netscape appears to be broken. When I try to run netscape, I get this error: netscape: locale `C' not supported. along with a long description about $XNLSPATH. Anyone have any idea what has caused this and how to fix it? tia. Rob === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh "Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled." ===
Re-installed xserver-common and now X is broken?
I previously installed and had Xwindows working. Then I messed with upgrading my 'bo' system from libc5 to libc6; it broke a lot of things. Including X. I re-installed xserver-common, which had been un-installed by apt; all the other X packages seem to be present, and dpkg and apt both say there aren't any conflicting packages. But now: jane# startx /usr/bin/X11/startx: /usr/bin/X11/xinit: No such file or directory /usr/bin/X11/startx: /usr/bin/X11/xinit: No such file or directory jane# ls -l /usr/bin/X11/xinit -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9020 Nov 2 02:37 /usr/bin/X11/xinit jane# How do I fix this? -Daniel
Pre beginner
Title: Pre beginner I am trying to install Debian Linux on a PC clone with a genuine Intel 166MMX processor, 64MB SDRAM, a Western Digital 2.5GB IDE hard drive, a Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 Pro PCI video card, and a generic NE2000 compatible NIC. I created a 400 MB DOS 6.22 bootable partition and left the rest of the drive raw. I downloaded all the files (via HTTP) from Debian that were specified in the download portion of the getting started guide. When I run the install.bat from the DOS prompt Linux begins booting (uncompressing), flashes some unreadable messages and then my computer reboots. What am I doing wrong? Manny
g++272 libs, revisited.
As part of a homework assignment I've written a little program to do
arithmetic with fractions and mixed numbers, and I wanted to benchmark the
speed of various algorithms for finding 'gcd,' the greatest common divisor.
Not knowing how to do the timing piece, I started playing with gettimeofday.
Here's what I came up with:
#include
#include
int main()
{
struct timeval *ThisTime;
struct timezone *huh = 0;
int i;
long int k;
i = gettimeofday(ThisTime, huh);
cout << i << endl;
k = ThisTime->tv_sec;
cout << k;
}
On my basically stock model, off-the-shelf Debian 2.0 machine this builds with
the 'c++' call to egcs but seg faults on execution. Moving the snippet over to
a (yes) Win95 machine on which I've installed the GNU (DJGPP) gcc 2.7.2.1, it
not only builds but runs a DOS executable.
Aha sez I; I'll just whip the g++272 package onto the Debian box and be home
free. Did that, but it won't compile, complaining of many errors in the
headers, eg:
"/usr/include/g++/iostream.h:91: parse error before `__extension__'" and
"/usr/include/g++/iostream.h:208: parse error before `__extension__'."
Aha sez I; I don't have the libg++272-dev package on board - I'll just whip
that onto the Debian machine and be home free. Tried that, but I can't install
this package, just produce an dpkg error stating I already have libg++-2.8-dev
and that there's a conflict wrt libg++-dev that's provided by the latter.
I am most curious about:
1) How to write a little timing routine for benchmarking.
2) Why egcs can't build a working version of that piece of code.
3) How to get g++272 happily cohabiting with egcs on my Debian installation.
not necessarily (but pretty much) in that order.
TIA for any light shed on these or any other arcana!
--
Bob Bernstein
at
Esmond, R.I., USA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Future of Linux
On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Andy Tai wrote: > > Compilers are also an issue I feel strongly about. I think gcc and egcs > > are awsome, but no match (yet) for commercial compilers. > > Don't even think of trying making some commerical compilers part of the Linux > standard, if they's what you are thinking. Linux is a GNU system and as such > gcc/egcs has to be the standard. No, I simply ment that gcc should be a link to cc, not assuming that all people use gcc. Whatever compiler the users chooses should be linked to cc, and the standard for packaged software should look to use cc to compile and install, not look for gcc by default. -- "Robert W. Current" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - email http://www.current.nu- personal web site "Hey mister, turn it on, turn it up, and turn me loose." - Dwight Yoakam
Re: Future of Linux (.so contracts)
Davide Bolcioni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If we say a library is a collection of functions which have a
> signature and an implementation, the notion of change becomes: 1 -
> an implementation change which preserves the signature; 2 - a
> signature change (which may be construed as a deletion followed by
> an addition, so anybody expecting to find the old function should
> not find it) which almost always implies an implementation change;
>
> The problem, of course, is that we check the signature but care
> about the implementation (in the sense that we call a function for
> what it does, although we should not rely on the exact means it uses
> to get the job done). The implementation includes considerations
> such as efficiency, i.e. application chose a function with more
> limited functionality because it was more efficient, so
> implementation goes into the contract in multiple ways (which is
> inconvenient).
I'm probably going off at a bit of a tangent, but it strikes me that a
potentially useful tool is parts of TenDRA
http://alph.dra.hmg.gb/TenDRA/>. TenDRA as a practical compiler
probably isn't interesting---I suspect egcs beats it (although
compiling with more than one compiler is useful for checking
portability beyond gcc, of course)---from the point of view of
checking portability, or checking signature of APIs, TenDRA provides
some features which look nice, however.
With the TenDRA compiler, I can compile the etags.c from XEmacs, and
be pretty sure that it requires only features (as in headers, types,
macros, functions) provided by ISO C and POSIX:
% tcc -Yposix -c etags.c
Even if the compiler itself is ignored, TenDRA provides a language a
little more subtle than C header files for specifying what an API
provides. For example, you can specify that a struct typedef has
certain elements, but does not say which order they'll come in (and
the compiler can check that a program does not try to assume an
ordering).
In a sense, perhaps this is too much subtlety for programs to be
shipped in binary: if my glibc implements some important struct
differently to yours, then no amount of fiddling is going to get your
binary to work on my machine. But for checking (syntactic
only---there's nothing about semantics involved) portability of
source, this strikes me as useful.
Indeed, just writing down (in this already defined language) suitable
definitions of APIs would surely be handy for a number of uses. The
formalism strikes me as a little clearer to read than header files, in
that it strips out implementation details, making the interface that
I'm supposed to use more visible.
Here's a few excerpts for apis/ansi/stdio.h, the definition of what
ANSI C stdio.h provides:
+SUBSET "file" := { +TYPE FILE ; } ;
+EXP FILE *stdin, *stdout, *stderr ;
+SUBSET "eof" := { +CONST int EOF ; } ;
This says that FILE is a type, but says nothing else about it.
Similarly, EOF is a constant int. The SUBSET things indicate that
other APIs and other header files may reference these subsets of
stdio.h without importing the whole lot, I think.
+IFNDEF __JUST_POSIX
+IFNDEF __JUST_XPG3
+TYPE fpos_t ;
+FUNC int fgetpos ( FILE *, fpos_t * ) ;
+FUNC int fsetpos ( FILE *, const fpos_t * ) ;
+ENDIF
+FUNC int setvbuf ( FILE *, char *, int, size_t ) ;
+FUNC int vfprintf ( FILE *, const char *, ~va_list ) ;
+FUNC int vprintf ( const char *, ~va_list ) ;
+FUNC int vsprintf ( char *, const char *, ~va_list ) ;
+ENDIF
Declarations of functions. Fairly obvious, I suspect. (~va_list is
declared elsewhere.)
Does this kind of writing down of APIs strike anybody else as useful,
or am I just insane?
