Re: install debian
On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 02:01:24PM -0700, Zheng Wang wrote: > Did someone successfully install Debian on Dell's workstation? I get > trouble in doing that. I try to install from the hard disk. When I run > install, it give me the following information: > > D:\>loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin > LOADLIN v1.6 (C) 1994..1996 Hans Lermen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > CPU is in V86-mode (may be WINDOWS, EMM386, QEMM, 386MAX, ...) The best (IMHO) way around this is to create the rescue floppy (using the instuctions in install.html) and boot from that and point to your fat partition for the rest of the installation. The reason I say "best" is that you _really_do_need_ to have a rescue floppy around, and what better time to make it than before you need it? Luck, Pann -- What's All the Buzz About Linux? http://www.rdrop.com/users/pann/
Re: rc3.d
When I got wmnet some time ago I wanted to have the following commands run every time I booted so that wmnet would display properly: $ ipfwadm -A in -i -S 0.0.0.0/0 $ ipfwadm -A out -i -D 0.0.0.0/0 I had no idea how to do this, but by looking in /etc and how things were structured I kind of guessed how to do it, and it seems to have worked perfectly, but is probably politically incorrect. In /etc/init.d/ I made a file called wmnetstartup.sh that contains: #!/bin/sh ipfwadm -A in -i -S 0.0.0.0/0 ipfwadm -A out -i -D 0.0.0.0/0 and then in /etc/rcS.d/ I made a symlink to that script called: S60wmnetstartup Be sure to set the permissions on both of these files the same as all the other files in the directory, and it will run the script every time you boot. If this is not the politically correct way to have a command run at boot time that you would normally just type in from your login shell anyways, like startx or whatever, then what is? Thanks, Christopher Default Debian Reader wrote: > > I want ppp to start at boot time so I made a script that does has the > following lines > #!/bin/sh > pon MY_ISP > i saved this file to /etc/init.d/pppstuff* > then in /etc/rc3.d/ i did ln -s /etc/init.d/pppstuff /etc/rc3.d/S20pppon > this doesn't start my ppp connection at boot..why not? > can anyone help me with this please? > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
SATAN deb?
Does anyone know the reason why SATAN is not available as a deb package, even in the contrib or non-free sections? Has anyone been able to find it as an RPM? Thanks, Max
Re: HP Laserjet 6L for Linux?
I just installed a 6L on my system last week, and it's working beautifully... got to admit, I was pretty impressed with it (I did up the memory to the full 9M). I configured it via magicfilter as a 4L, which seems to work flawlessly. On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 10:43:40AM -0500, Mrpeabody wrote: > I'm looking to get a printer for my linux box. I was wondering if the > HP Laserjet 6L would work with my linux machine? Most of the hardware > compatability lists seem kinda out to date and its hard to find out what > newer stuff is supported. > -jeff
lp1:device not configured
I have a scanner hooked to a parallel port, and from the scanner, to my printer. This setup used to work in Redhat on my older system. Someone on a IRC chat told me to email you about it. Whoever you are. I have lp integrated in the kernel, I do not have it as a module. I used to, and it still did not work. In my dmesg dump, I get lp:device configured but no interfaces found. Thank you stephen korbett
navigator 3 binary?
Anyone know where to get a copy of the Netscape Navigator 3.x binary? They took it off their ftp sites; archive.netscape.com does not allow anon ftp logins. I downloaded and installed 4.0x but find it to be terrible -- it crashes roughly 4x as much as 3.x for me (ie., twice a day instead of three times a week), the way it handles bookmarks is botched, the keybindings are screwed, the "smartkey" completion feature is taken away, etc. ... (Alternately, if someone could recommend a good free browser that handled tables, forms, frames and the rest of the basics --- Emacs' w3-mode would be perfect if it could do images and had better support for color & fonts...)
Re: lost "dir" in /usr/info
Obi wrote: > Well I got a dir from another machine (I didn't have the dir.old either) and I > tried to manully add the node I have that wasn't already in there. And now I > can't look into the libc nodes. I mean, it shows up in the dir (so if I do > info it shows up) but the libc menu page is without any link! I reinstalle > twice the libc6-doc, but I can't access the pages! > > What can I do? > > thanks > graziano > > [ ..snip.. ] Ok, perhaps you are lucky you got that far. :) I would try, by removing what you added manually. Then remove libc6-doc package, making sure you purge it (dpkg --purge libc6-doc). Re-install it again. From what I can see in the info files and dir file, it should install properly. Perhaps it is getting mixed up with what you added in the dir file. John.
RE: X server problems
Braden N. McDaniel writes: > Now when I boot the machine, my monitor goes to sleep as soon as the boot > sequence has completed. I *think* this is because I elected to being xdm up > at bootup when I initially installed everything, and now that setting is > kicking in. I suspect the problem may be that the X server has not yet been > properly configured. How can I get to a prompt so I can run xf86config? I hit the same problem when I messed things up in a different way such that X could not run. Once I was able to get in, I discovered that xdm tries over and over again to bring up X, which would always fail. I heard some talk that xdm might be changed to fall back to a console login after a number of failures. Anyway, I had to boot from a Debian Rescue floppy to get in. Forget about using the "rescue" command on that floppy -- it never worked for me. Just go ahead as if you were going to do an install. *Very* *carefully*, use the menu commands to mount your existing swap partition and mount your root partition, and then switch to another virtual console (Alt-F2, is it?). From there, disable xdm somehow, such as by renaming the xdm script in /etc/init.d. Then reboot from your hard drive as normal. I'm not going to use xdm again until such time as I have a backup root partition set up (with xdm disabled) so that I can boot and repair things without having to use the Rescue disk. -- Fred Yankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
install debian
One (?bizzare?) way around this is to set the shortcut properties in W95 for loadlin to "Use MS-DOS Mode" and specify a config.sys containing himem.sys and emm386.exe. copy the kernel from the CD to the hard disk so that loadlin picks it up without the DOS cd drivers or MSCDEX. I found this to work on a digital machine that wouldn't install from a rescue disk or boot from the CD or allow me to boot to the DOS command prompt. Once we had linux booting it was clear that the motherboard was broken BTW. John F. Zheng Wang writes: > Hi, > Did someone successfully install Debian on Dell's workstation? I get > trouble in doing that. I try to install from the hard disk. When I run > install, it give me the following information: > > D:\>loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin > LOADLIN v1.6 (C) 1994..1996 Hans Lermen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > CPU is in V86-mode (may be WINDOWS, EMM386, QEMM, 386MAX, ...) > You need pure 386/486 real mode or a VCPI server to boot Linux > VCPI is supported by most EMS drivers (if EMS is enabled), > but never under WINDOWS-3.1 or WINDOWS'95. > (However, real DOS-Mode of WINDOWS'95 can have EMS driver with VCPI) > If loading via VCPI you also MUST have: > 1. An interceptable setup-code (see MANUAL.TXT) > 2. Identical Physical-to-Virtual mapping for the first 640 Kbytes > > Your current DOS/CPU configuration is: > load buffer size: 0x , setup buffer size: 0x3E00 > total memory: 0x0010 > CPU is in V86 mode > SetupIntercept: NO > stat2: cpu_V86, but no VCPI available (check aborted) > input params (size 0x0023): > linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin > LOADLIN started from DOS-prompt > WARNING: Not enough free memory (load buffer size) > > On my machine, the D: driver has about 4GB. I will use it for linux. > > Thanks. > > Zheng Wang, Ph. D > Department of Statistics and Applied Probability > University of California, Santa Barbara > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://www.pstat.ucsb.edu/~zwang > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
nn & local news spool
I'm using suck and inn to run a local news spool. Trn works fine, but I'd prefer nn. However when I try nn on my local spool it spits out could not fetch active file and quits. Nn works using my isp's news server, and trn works fine. Does nn not work with the default setup for inn? Can I configure inn or nn so that nn will work? Mark
Do PCI modems need something special?
Hi, I have a generic 56K PCI modem supplied with my system. I was assured by the vendor that this was not a winmodem. The documentation that was supplied with the modem is not for a PCI modem so I can't trust anything it says. The only thing I know about this modem is that it has Lucent chipset and claims to be a MDP7800-U as far as windows is concerned. On linux, I setserial recognizes it on /dev/ttyS3 after I tell it that it is on irq 10 and give it the ioport of 0xdc00. It lists the UART correctly. stty -a
smail delays delivering mail from fetchmail
I use fetchmail to download my mail from a POP3 server, and until recently the local smail/in.smtp process that gets that mail from fetchmail would immediately deliver the messages to my mailbox. Now it queues the mail for delivery, but doesn't actually deliver it until some minutes later. If I run 'runq' right after 'fetchmail' then the mail *is* delivered immediately. So, how can I force smail to deliver the mail immediately again? I've studied all the docs I can find and tried all the smail options that seem to relate, but nothing helps. I'm running fetchmail 4.6.0-1 and smail 3.2.0.101-5 on a fairly current slink system. A slightly-obscured version of my /etc/smail/config file is attached. -- Fred Yankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] visible_name=XXX.net -domains hostnames=xanadu:XXX.XXX.net:localhost smtp_accept_max=20 smtp_accept_queue=10 rfc1413_query_timeout=15 require_configs -qualify_file -retry_file copying_file=/usr/doc/smail/copyright max_message_size=10M smtp_remote_allow=localnet -smtp_hello_verify
pine warning
So I finally cobbled pine 4.05 together...except now it keeps giving me a "Mailbox vulnerable - directory must have 1777 protection". I don't know which directory it's talking about and what exact permissions it wants... --- If love is blind, then why do they make lingerie? D'jinnie/Jinn, encountered on IRC and select MU**. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key
Re: navigator 3 binary?
Try this for the archived Netscape stuff... ftp://archive:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/archive/index.html#3.04 -- tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: some WindowMaker questions ...
Nuno Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Every time I start X (with windowmaker) it opens a xterm session ! ;( > How can I disable it !? Look in /etc/X11/Xsession and maybe /etc/X11/wdm/Xsession. At the end of these files there is the line which starts xterm. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.
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dpkg: "fgets gave null string"?
When I tried to install a package today, dpkg gave me a weird error about a different package. This came out of the blue -- the package in question had not been installed or played with in quite some time. The error message was, "fgets gave an empty null-terminated string from /var/lib/dpkg/info/kernel-source-2.0.30.list" and it happened when I was trying to install netscape3_3.04-3.deb (although I had the same error when trying to remove or install any other package): Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...ok The following NEW packages will be installed: netscape3 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0b/23.2k of archives. After unpacking 74.0k will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing netscape3_3.04-3.deb (--unpack): fgets gave an empty null-terminated string from /var/lib/dpkg/info/kernel-source-2.0.30.list' Errors were encountered while processing: netscape3_3.04-3.deb Processing was halted because there were too many errors. E: Sub-process returned an error code Some errors occured while unpacking. I'm going to configure the packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK, only the errors above this message are important. Please fix them and run [I]nstall again Press enter to contiune. My workaround? Temporarily mv kernel-source-2.0.30* to a different directory, install the netscape3, and then mv the kernel-source* files back. It worked, although dpkg reported that a "serious problem" was found. Is there a better solution to the problem -- and can anyone tell me why this happpened in the first place? As always -- thanks.
QUESTION
Hello, I have send 2 iqual messages to the list and they dont apear, so here come a 3th: 1.- I have compile a program: 1) configure --prefix=/phillip 2) make 3) make install So the program is now installed in /phillip. Now i want to uninstall it. (i have remove the uncompress dir of the source so i cannot make uninstall) How should i do that? ? Will `rm /phillip -r' remove 100% of the program?? 2.- How can i check that a compilation has 0% errors, and so the program will 100% ok ?? Thanks, -- __ / / / Phillip Neumann / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / _/_/
Re: smail delays delivering mail from fetchmail
On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Fred Yankowski wrote: > I use fetchmail to download my mail from a POP3 server, and until > recently the local smail/in.smtp process that gets that mail from > fetchmail would immediately deliver the messages to my mailbox. Now > it queues the mail for delivery, but doesn't actually deliver it until > some minutes later. If I run 'runq' right after 'fetchmail' then the > mail *is* delivered immediately. I just used a command like 'fetchmail;runq' in my /etc/ppp/ip-up.d directory. But you are right.. It used to run automatically for me too. what about the "queue_only" directive in /etc/smail/config. I cant remember, but will "-queue_only" disable this? > So, how can I force smail to deliver the mail immediately again? I've > studied all the docs I can find and tried all the smail options that > seem to relate, but nothing helps. I'm running fetchmail 4.6.0-1 and > smail 3.2.0.101-5 on a fairly current slink system. > > A slightly-obscured version of my /etc/smail/config file is attached. > > -- > Fred Yankowski > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > visible_name=XXX.net > -domains > hostnames=xanadu:XXX.XXX.net:localhost > smtp_accept_max=20 > smtp_accept_queue=10 > rfc1413_query_timeout=15 > require_configs > -qualify_file > -retry_file > copying_file=/usr/doc/smail/copyright > max_message_size=10M > smtp_remote_allow=localnet > -smtp_hello_verify > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with "pgpkey" as subject. - Cat Game #3: Take up most room on bed. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: rc3.d
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christopher Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In /etc/init.d/ I made a file called wmnetstartup.sh that contains: > >#!/bin/sh >ipfwadm -A in -i -S 0.0.0.0/0 >ipfwadm -A out -i -D 0.0.0.0/0 > >and then in /etc/rcS.d/ I made a symlink to that script called: >S60wmnetstartup That's perfectly allright. That is indeed the way to add something that needs to be run on boot only (no daemons, just one-time initialization). The only nitpick I have is that you could/should have used: update-rc.d wmnetstartup start 60 S . That makes the link automatically for you. But esp. in the case of rcS.d, where there is only one link anyway it doesn't really matter. Mike. -- "Did I ever tell you about the illusion of free will?" -- Sheriff Lucas Buck, ultimate BOFH.
Re: DAWICONTROL DC-2975 U
On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 03:32:48PM +0200, Felix E. Klee wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to install Debian 2 on my computer. > > However when I select "Next: Partition a Hard Disk" > from the installation menu I get a message that > no hard disks where found. > > I have a DAWICONTROL DC-2975 U SCSI Controler with a CDROM > and an IBM UW HD connected to it. The HD is connected via > an U to UW adapter. > > Below is more information to the problem. > > Any clues what is causing this? > > Thanks for any advice, > > Felix > > The file "boot.bat" which I call from DOS: > > @echo off > > smartdrv /c > > loadlin.exe linux ro ncr53c8xx=wide:0 initrd=root.bin root=/dev/ram > > The startup messages I get in LINUX: > > ncr53c8xx: at PCI bus 0, device 12, function 0 > > ncr53c8xx: 53c875 detected > > ncr53c875-0: rev=0x04, base=0xdd80, io_port=0xd400, irq=11 > > ncr53c875-0: ID 6, Fast-20, Paritiy Checking > > ncr53c875-0: on-board RAM at 0xdd00 > > ncr53c875-0: restart (scsi reset). > > ncr53c875-0: copying script fragments into the on-board RAM ... > > scsi0 : ncr53c8xx - revision 2.4a > > scsi : 1 host. > > Vendor: PIONEER Model: CD-ROM DR-U16SREV: 1.01 > > Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: > 02 > > Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0 > > scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom total. Your CD-ROM was detected by the controller, but your disk wasn't. I doubt you could operate a wide disk on a non wide controller. An adapter can't compensate for the different data width. Correct me someone if I am wrong here. Nils -- *-* | Quotes from the net: L> Linus Torvalds, W> Winfried Truemper | | L>this is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 | | W>Umh, oh. What do you mean by "special easter release"?. Will it quit | * W>working today and rise on easter? * pgpue5TThPzcv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: There is necesary libc5-altdev to compile ld.so?
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 08:36:18PM -0300, Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez wrote: >I am having problems with the ld.so and/or with the libc6. I released my >"bo" linux to "hamm" 2 week ago. I used the "cd-autoup.sh" program. > >The upgrading was fine and without big problems. However the myself >compiled programs, after the upgrading, do not run anymore. The programs >stop with SIGSEGV signal after calling to getpid(). In all likeliness, this is because the dynamic loader cannot find the libc5 version of a library your program is linked against, and loads it against the libc6 library. In the "NEEDS" part of the output of "objdump --all-headers" on your binary, you can find which libc5 libraries the binary was linked against. Compare that to the output of "ldd" on your binary, which shows you what libraries the binary will be loaded against. If "ldd" shows it being loaded against libc6, or both libc5 and libc6, that's the problem; it shows you haven't installed a particular libc5 library (which can be found in hamm's "oldlibs" section). HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: QUESTION
On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Phillip Neumann wrote: > Hello, > > > I have send 2 iqual messages to the list and they dont apear, so here > come a 3th: Your two messages did appear on the list...are you subscribed? > 2.- How can i check that a compilation has 0% errors, and so the program > will 100% ok ?? compile with the -pedantic flag OTOH having sytactically correct C doesn't garuntee the program will work ;) Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: DAWICONTROL DC-2975 U (2)
On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Felix E. Klee wrote: > I have a DAWICONTROL DC-2975 U SCSI Controler with a CDROM > and an IBM UW HD connected to it. The HD is connected via > an U to UW adapter. > > loadlin.exe linux ro ncr53c8xx=wide:0 initrd=root.bin root=/dev/ram wide:0 is surely necessary because of the UW-Chip on the adapter. My first thought was, that the handshaking to UW was performed, so the narrow connection would block further transfers. Either the wide:0 does not work for some reason, or the U-to-UW adapter is crap. Maybe you can try switching off ultra speed and see if it works then: loadlin... ncr53c8xx=wide:0,ultra=n ... > The startup messages I get in LINUX: > > ncr53c8xx: at PCI bus 0, device 12, function 0 > > ncr53c8xx: 53c875 detected > > ncr53c875-0: rev=0x04, base=0xdd80, io_port=0xd400, irq=11 > > ncr53c875-0: ID 6, Fast-20, Paritiy Checking > > ncr53c875-0: on-board RAM at 0xdd00 > > ncr53c875-0: restart (scsi reset). > > ncr53c875-0: copying script fragments into the on-board RAM ... I'm not sure if the driver should report the disabled wide mode here. Harald Schueler Universitaet Essen Tel +49-201-183-2456/2566 Fachbereich 7 Fax +49-201-183-2120 45117 Essen E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing Problem
On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote:
Hi all,
Thanks for all the help... But I still cannot print!
I have actually done it in debian before. But after I
reinstall the debian 2.0, then it stopped working...
I have compiled the parallel port within the kernel and
also as a module. I have tried both lp0 and lp1. But
In the boot precess, I can also see the line:
starting lpd spoolsomething like that...
So what should I do now???
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> > bash-2.01$ lpc status
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> > In the file /var/spool/lpd/lp/status.lp, it contains:
> > opening '/dev/lp1' at 00:32:52, attempt 1, timeout 10, grace 0 at 00:32:52
> > cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'Device not configured', attempt 1, sleeping 10
> > at 00:32:53
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> > But I am sure that Parallel support is compiled in my kernel!!!
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> Check the parallel driver is available "dmesg | less"
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> Also make sure it is really lp1, usually in PCs LPT1 = /dev/lp0
> I think this will change in new 2.2 kernels when LPT1 will be
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Re: DAWICONTROL DC-2975 U (2)
On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Felix E. Klee wrote: > > loadlin.exe linux ro ncr53c8xx=wide:0 initrd=root.bin root=/dev/ram Try: loadlin.exe ... ncr53c8xx=wide:0,verb:2 ... and see if wide mode is reported as disabled. Harald Schueler Universitaet Essen Tel +49-201-183-2456/2566 Fachbereich 7 Fax +49-201-183-2120 45117 Essen E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS simple question
Hi Debian users, I'm trying to setup a NFS server(machine 10.0.0.132) and a client(10.0.1.222). I read the NFS-HOWTO: I wrote in /etc/exports at 10.0.0.132(Server) the line: /home 10.0.1.222(rw) Then I add the line in /etc/fstab at 10.0.1.222(Client): 10.0.0.132:/home /home nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr 0 0 And used the comand mount -a in 10.0.1.222 and the error was: mount: RPC: Program not registered and the NFS-HOWTO says the this error was caused because neither nfsd or mountd was running on the server, but: ps aux | grep nfs gives the answer: root30 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 05:58 0:00 (nfsiod) root31 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 05:58 0:00 (nfsiod) root32 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 05:58 0:00 (nfsiod) root33 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 05:58 0:00 (nfsiod) and ps aux | grep mount gives no answer. What I did wrong? TIA and have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
Re: NFS simple question
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: > Hi Debian users, > I'm trying to setup a NFS server(machine 10.0.0.132) and a > client(10.0.1.222). I read the NFS-HOWTO: > I wrote in /etc/exports at 10.0.0.132(Server) the line: > /home 10.0.1.222(rw) > Then I add the line in /etc/fstab at 10.0.1.222(Client): > 10.0.0.132:/home /home nfs > rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr 0 0 > And used the comand mount -a in 10.0.1.222 and the error was: > mount: RPC: Program not registered > and the NFS-HOWTO says the this error was caused because neither nfsd > or mountd was running on the server, but: > > ps aux | grep nfs > gives the answer: > root30 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 05:58 0:00 (nfsiod) > root31 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 05:58 0:00 (nfsiod) > root32 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 05:58 0:00 (nfsiod) > root33 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 05:58 0:00 (nfsiod) > > and ps aux | grep mount > gives no answer. > What I did wrong? > TIA and have a nice day,Paulo Henrique > We already had this kind of "problem", but I believe the answer is quite simple: try restarting the 'nfs daemon' on '/etc/init.d'. I \t should suffice. Daniel. ___ Daniel Doro Ferrante email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & System Administrator &[EMAIL PROTECTED] WebMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cecm.usp.br/~danieldf CECM - Curso de Ci?ncias Moleculares - USP Course of Molecular Sciences - University of S?o Paulo - Brazil
pine-4.05
Is there anybody working on a port of pine version 4.05 or any other version later than 4.0? I want to use pine for reading emails from a pop server, but unfortunately the currently available debian package of pine is 3.96 or so and does not yet enable me to read from pop servers. Regards, Ferdinand.
Q: qpopper error
hello, I received these messages in messages file: Sep 30 09:49:55 alpha2 in.qpopper[11785]: @imate.infim.ro: -ERR Too few arguments for the auth command. Sep 30 09:49:55 alpha2 in.qpopper[11785]: @imate.infim.ro: -ERR POP EOF received Sep 30 09:53:04 alpha2 in.qpopper[11790]: (v2.3) Unable to get canonical name of client, err = 2 Sep 30 09:58:06 alpha2 in.qpopper[11796]: (v2.3) Unable to get canonical name of client, err = 2 Sep 30 10:02:07 alpha2 in.qpopper[11803]: (v2.3) Unable to get canonical name of client, err = 2 Could someone tell me qpopper "Unable to get canonical ..." error message has any connection with "@imate.infim.ro -ERR to few ..." message. If not what is the meaning of each of them. TIA. \\\___/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) -oOOo-(_)-oOOo *Bubulac Angela Tatiana - National Institute for R&D of Materials Physics* * Bucuresti - Magurele P.O.B. MG-7 * * Romania* *e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | phone :401-7805385 int.1380 * *[EMAIL PROTECTED] | 401-7806925 * * | 401-7804573 * --Oooo oooO ( ) ( )) / \ ((_/ \_)
Re: pine-4.05
> Is there anybody working on a port of pine version 4.05 or any other > version > later than 4.0? in /project/experimental, there are the relevant files to build-it-yourself. Debian is not allowed to distribute modified pine binaries. HTH, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: X server problems
Braden N. McDaniel wrote: > Now when I boot the machine, my monitor goes to sleep as soon as the boot > sequence has completed. I *think* this is because I elected to being xdm up > at bootup when I initially installed everything, and now that setting is > kicking in. I suspect the problem may be that the X server has not yet been > properly configured. How can I get to a prompt so I can run xf86config? Eeeek! I had a simular problem with xdm recently... what I did was boot from the rescue disk (just like a normal install, no tricks), switch to the console (alt-F2),. mount my root partition, with etc on it, and then removed the file S99xdm (I think that's it) from /tempmount/etc/rc2.d (actually I made a backup copy of it, but it's just a link to ../init.d/xdm.) This link in /etc/rc2.d is what causes xdm to be launched on startup. Removing it from this directory will cause xdm NOT to be started on boot. You can then unmount your / partition, reboot, and you shouldn't have to worry about not being able to get to the prompt any more. You can run xdm manually from the prompt by simply typing xdm as root when you're ready. -- [this space for rent]
NIS Server and Clients
Hi Debian users, I'm trying to setup a NIS server with some clients. I'm following the steps of /usr/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto.gz. I begun with the server. At step 3.6: Setup the server by typing "/usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m" The following error occurs and I suspect that I will not be able to use NIS clients then: HOST132:/etc# /usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m At this point, we have to construct a list of the hosts which will run NIS servers. HOST132 is in the list of NIS server hosts. Please continue to add the names for the other hosts, one per line. When you are done with the list, type a . next host to add: HOST132 next host to add: The current list of NIS servers looks like this: HOST132 Is this correct? [y/n: y] We need some minutes to build the databases... Building /var/yp/fgv.br/ypservers... Running /var/yp/Makefile... /bin/sh: 1: command not found make[1]: Entering directory `/var/yp/fgv.br' make[1]: `ypservers' is up to date. make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/yp/fgv.br' make[1]: Entering directory `/var/yp/fgv.br' Updating passwd.byname... /bin/sh: 1: command not found Updating passwd.byuid... /bin/sh: 1: command not found Updating group.byname... /bin/sh: 1: command not found Updating group.bygid... make[1]: *** [group.bygid] Interrupt make: *** [target] Interrupt Comand not found. What I did wrong? have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
Re: X server problems
>> "CF" == Chris Fury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CF> This link in /etc/rc2.d is what causes xdm to be launched on startup. CF> Removing it from this directory will cause xdm NOT to be started on CF> boot. Actually it would be easier to edit /etc/X11/config and change start-xdm to no-start-xdm and xdm-start-server to no-xdm-start-server. Ciao, Martin
Re: X Server problems
Martin Bialasinski wrote: > Actually it would be easier to edit /etc/X11/config and change > start-xdm to no-start-xdm and xdm-start-server to no-xdm-start-server. Yeah, but my option has less keystrokes... :P :) Elegence? What's that? -- balderdash.
Filter for HP5L
Hi all,
Thanks for your help. I finally managed to get my printer working.
Now, I have a new problem. I am using HP5L. I tried to use the
filter laserjet-filter, but it gives me error when printing the last page.
I have tried out most of other laser* filters, but just wasted 30 pages of
paper...
Anyone can teach me how to use cti-ifhp???
Any other alternatives??
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Re: Free debugger that can do source debugging without executable.
On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 04:57:49PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a debugger or a way to get ddd to load and interpret a C source > file and step through it a step at a time without requiring the > debug-symbol compiled executable? I seem to remember doing something > like this a long time ago with one of Borland's IDEs, but I might be > mistaken. You are mistaken. In that Borland IDE of old (TurboPascal 4.x+) code was compiled before getting You into debugger hmm of course i might be wrong =o) -- Robert Ramiega | [EMAIL PROTECTED]IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate IT Manager @ PDi | http://plukwa.pdi.net/| the power of Source
Error - - Where the hell adobe - Helvetica font!!
Hey all, I keep getting this error not from one app but numerous apps (i.e. wmaker's WPrefs, afterstep(won't boot because of it) and various others). For some reason I keep getting the error can't find -adobe-Helvetica-font. (I may have spelled this wrong but that not the reason for the error...). I have downloaded and install the following fonts and related stuff... freefonts freetype tools gsfonts freetype tools figfonts and other I think I can't rememberI even downloaded Acrobat Reader - assuming since adobe makes that the fonts would be there WRONG!!! got the error with that too!! I know I did NOT install the 75dpi and 100dpi fonts. So can someone tell me where the heck can I find this damn font so I can't stop this annoying error and see if this the only reason that afterstep and other apps won't run. rod
Re: NFS simple question
> > > And used the comand mount -a in 10.0.1.222 and the error was: > > mount: RPC: Program not registered > > and the NFS-HOWTO says the this error was caused because neither nfsd > > or mountd was running on the server, but: > > > > We already had this kind of "problem", but I believe the answer is > quite simple: try restarting the 'nfs daemon' on '/etc/init.d'. I \t > should suffice. > > Daniel. > You may also have to restart the mount daemon. Someone else I know had trouble when he restarted mountd and nfsd in the wrong order. I just rebooted (I'm the only regular user, however) and everything worked great. -Joe
Re: nfs & "mount: RPC: Program not registered"
Look at the replies to "NFS Simple Question" posted above -- it looks like the same problem. Joe > > > When I try to mount an nfs export, I get the message: > > mount: RPC: Program not registered > > for example, something like > > mount eyry.econ.iastate.edu:/mountabledirectory mountpoint -t nfs > > yields this result. > > I don't see anything in the manpages or /usr/doc that's useful here. > > rick > > -- > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: some WindowMaker questions ...
> > Everytime I install a program, windowmaker menu is updated and I like it. > My problem is that I would like to change some option on windowmaker menu > and I don't find the "menu" file! :( > It's not on GNUStep directory and theirs subdirectories nor in > /etc/X11/WindowMaker directory ! Well, there's the menu file on that > directory but it doesn't correspond to my windowmaker menu !:( > Try looking through the (many) files in /usr/lib/menu. It may take you some time to find what you're looking for, but it should be in there. You should also be able to use the newest Window Maker (in Debian, it's 0.20.0) -- the program WPrefs lets you customize your personal menu. I haven't been able to get that feature to work in any of the previous versions -- it always crashed WPrefs. I don't have any need to do a personalized menu, either, so I haven't really used the config tool. Good luck. -Joe
Re: more modem
> > > >> Just as a test, I'd try the following command: > >> > >> echo ATDT(some_phone_number) > /dev/ttyS0 > >> > >> and see if you hear the modem pick up and dial. If you've got a second > phone > >> line (or cell phone, etc), you can dial it and answer it and hear yourself > >> talking to yourself (if you've got a speaker on the modem). > >> > >> echo ATH > /dev/ttyS0 to hang up the line. > >> echo ATZ > /dev/ttyS0 to reset the modem. > >> > >> If this test works, it'll verify that Linux and your modem will work > together, > >> and that the hardware is okay. > > > >I tried this on my system, which has a working modem and ppp connection, and > >it didn't do anything. > > > I missed what kind of modem you have. I have a Diamond SupraMax, and it won't work. If you look at the current Red Hat hardware compatibility list, they mention that Diamond memory-mapped PCI modems are not currently supported in the kernel. I have contacted Diamond about getting enough info. to write a driver, but I haven't heard anything back. I don't know if other modems use a similar scheme, but you might want to check on the Red Hat site (www.redhat.com -- go to installation support, then down to hardware compatibility lists). hope that helps, Joe
Re: X server problems
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 07:47:15AM -0400, Chris Fury wrote: > Braden N. McDaniel wrote: > > Now when I boot the machine, my monitor goes to sleep as soon as the boot > > sequence has completed. I *think* this is because I elected to being xdm up > > at bootup when I initially installed everything, and now that setting is > > kicking in. I suspect the problem may be that the X server has not yet been > > properly configured. How can I get to a prompt so I can run xf86config? > > Eeeek! I had a simular problem with xdm recently... what I did was > boot > from the rescue disk (just like a normal install, no tricks), switch to > the console (alt-F2),. mount my root partition, with etc on it, and then > removed the file S99xdm (I think that's it) from /tempmount/etc/rc2.d > (actually I made a backup copy of it, but it's just a link to > ../init.d/xdm.) > > This link in /etc/rc2.d is what causes xdm to be launched on startup. > Removing it from this directory will cause xdm NOT to be started on > boot. > You can then unmount your / partition, reboot, and you shouldn't have to > worry about not being able to get to the prompt any more. You can run > xdm manually from the prompt by simply typing xdm as root when you're > ready. To be less drastic... chmod a-x /etc/init.d/xdm or edit /etc/X11/config anmd change the line "start-xdm" to "no-start-xdm" -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> */ E-mail "Bumper Stickers": "A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both!" "honk if you Love Linux"
Re: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?
Why would 32-bit apps be limited to 32 bit integers?? Didn't we have 32
bit avallible to us on the 286?? If not, I'm certain we were able to
get around it then. Also if any one wants to make use of MMX registers
there is even a 64-bit ASM MOV command avalible.
In fact on my (nonmmx)k6-processor(I don't have a chance to test on a
386) this program returns 8 bytes(64 bits) just as it should;
#include
#include
int main(void)
{
long long test;
printf("\n\n%i bytes\n\n", sizeof(test);
return 0;
}
Mike Barton wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dsb3 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 1998 11:40 PM
> To: Miquel van Smoorenburg
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?
>
> On 27 Sep 1998, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
>
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Wojciech Zabolotny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Hi
> >>There was a lot of noise about the y2k problem in old COBOL and M$
> >>applications, but what about the "Y2K+38 disaster" in the POSIX world?
> >>I was pretty sure that the new libc6 library implements 64 bit time_t,
> >
> >It's a kernel issue. On 32 bit platforms time_t will probably always be
> >restricted to 32 bits, but on 64 bits systems such as the alpha time_t
> >is 64 bits .. and by 2038 I expect everyone to be running at least
> >a 64 bit machine.
>
> I think it's this attitude that caused y2k to be so large and sudden, at
> least i part. Though it may be true, and though I would like it very
> much
> to be true, I'd hate to bet on "EVERYBODY" moving to a 64 bit system.
>
> After all, count the billions of dollars being spent on mainframe
> systems.
> I would quite expect many companies to bleed those systems even drier
> now
> they've been forced into spending so much money on them ...
>
> Mechanically, in less than 15 years, we've gone from $800 72 MB 5 1/4"
> full height HDs to $600 "fit in your shirt pocket" 8 GB drives.
> Electronically, the advance has been far more exciting. IMO, I'd find it
> easy to bet that 32 bit machines and the Y2K++ problem will be a long
> since thing of the past in 39 years.
>
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Re: NFS simple question
> We already had this kind of "problem", but I believe the answer is > quite simple: try restarting the 'nfs daemon' on '/etc/init.d'. I \t > should suffice. What do you mean with try restarting the 'nfs daemon' on '/etc/init.d'? Stef
No GIF in gimp?
Why can't I save my pictures as GIF in the gimp? Stef
Re: rc3.d
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 08:43:25AM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Christopher Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >In /etc/init.d/ I made a file called wmnetstartup.sh that contains: > > > >#!/bin/sh > >ipfwadm -A in -i -S 0.0.0.0/0 > >ipfwadm -A out -i -D 0.0.0.0/0 > > > >and then in /etc/rcS.d/ I made a symlink to that script called: > >S60wmnetstartup > > That's perfectly allright. That is indeed the way to add something > that needs to be run on boot only (no daemons, just one-time initialization). > The only nitpick I have is that you could/should have used: > > update-rc.d wmnetstartup start 60 S . > > That makes the link automatically for you. But esp. in the case of rcS.d, > where there is only one link anyway it doesn't really matter. Just a note... I know this isn't any sort of policy or documented AFAIK anywhere but... when I make my own init.d scripts (which I don't intend to be part of a debian package ;) ) I name them "local.*" (like my ip maquerading scipt is local.ip_masq) The idea is I can be pretty sure that there wont ever be a debian package named "local.whatever" esp since this is the same convention used un "menu" to tell it a dependancy is met localy. just a thought...also...is there any reason not to run ipmasq script as S20 (default)? mine always worked that way -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> */ E-mail "Bumper Stickers": "A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both!" "honk if you Love Linux"
Re: No GIF in gimp? / xv core dumps
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Stef Hoesli Wiederwald wrote: > Why can't I save my pictures as GIF in the gimp? Did you install the package gimp-nonfree from the non-free part of the distribution? Gimp requires this to view .gif and .tif files While I'm here, has anyone else noticed that xv dumps core if you use the change size dials in the save postscript window before saving an image as a .ps file? All the best Hugh == Hugh C. Pumphrey, Dept. of -| Tel. 0131-650-6026,Fax:0131-650-5780 Meteorology, Univ. of Edinburgh | Replace 0131 with +44-131 if outside U.K EDINBURGH EH9 3JZ, Scotland | Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==P=l=e=a=s=e==N=o=t=e==t=h=e==N=e=w==F=A=X==N=u=m=b=e=r==
Re: No GIF in gimp?
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 04:04:54PM +0200, Stef Hoesli Wiederwald wrote: > Why can't I save my pictures as GIF in the gimp? Thanks to the joy of software patents? http://lpf.ai.mit.edu/Patents/Gif/Gif.html You could perhaps consider using "gimp-nonfree" in non-free/graphics . HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: smail delays delivering mail, not just for fetchmail
I've noticed a similar behavior with smail with no fetchmail involved. Even mail on my own system is delayed several minutes. rick --
Re: No GIF in gimp?
> Why can't I save my pictures as GIF in the gimp? Because I didn't install gimp-nonfree... Stef
Re: pine warning
On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, D'jinnie wrote: > So I finally cobbled pine 4.05 together...except now it keeps giving me a > "Mailbox vulnerable - directory must have 1777 protection". I don't know > which directory it's talking about and what exact permissions it wants... I assume its talking about: /var/spool/mail -- Jean Pierre
Re: remote X apps
I've used two approaches in the past. 1. Log into the alpha system with ssh. ssh should modify your DISPLAY variable to something like alpha:10 (as long as you don't modify it in your .profile,...) Run your X app. ssh has permission to draw on your DISPLAY, so you don't need to open the system with xhost or transfer the xauth cookies. 2. I've done this on some router hardware, but I haven't tried IP-Masq. Direct a particular port from outside the router to a particular IP address. I think X is something like port 6000 or 6001. If you direct incoming connections to your masq server port 6000 to the .10 machine you may be able to get X working. You set the display on the alpha to the masq_server:0. If you need more machines running X through the firewall, direct the next port to another machine. i.e. port 6001 to .11 machine and set the display to masq_server:1. I recommend the ssh approach. On Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 02:11:16PM -0300, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: > > Hi, > > > I'm having troubles trying to run remote X applications under a > IP-Masquerading system. The situation is the following: > > Linux-Box--Linux-Server w/ IP-Masq.--DEC alpha > 192.168.9.10 valid IP valid IP > > > I would like to run an appl. in DEC alpha cpu and export the > display to Linux Box, passing thru the masq. > How can I tell the DEC alpha that it should export the display to > the Linux Box? > Is this possible? > Any help, please? -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smail delays delivering mail from fetchmail
On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 08:55:19PM -0500, Fred Yankowski wrote: > I use fetchmail to download my mail from a POP3 server, and until > recently the local smail/in.smtp process that gets that mail from > fetchmail would immediately deliver the messages to my mailbox. Now > it queues the mail for delivery, but doesn't actually deliver it until > some minutes later. If I run 'runq' right after 'fetchmail' then the > mail *is* delivered immediately. > > So, how can I force smail to deliver the mail immediately again? I've Put the following at the end of your .fetchmailrc postconnect /usr/bin/runq Luck, Pann -- What's All the Buzz About Linux? http://www.rdrop.com/users/pann/
RE: X server problems
At 08:41 PM 9/29/1998 -0500, Fred Yankowski wrote: >Braden N. McDaniel writes: > > Now when I boot the machine, my monitor goes to sleep as soon as the boot > > sequence has completed. I *think* this is because I elected to being xdm up > > at bootup when I initially installed everything, and now that setting is > > kicking in. I suspect the problem may be that the X server has not yet been > > properly configured. How can I get to a prompt so I can run xf86config? > >I hit the same problem when I messed things up in a different way such >that X could not run. Once I was able to get in, I discovered that >xdm tries over and over again to bring up X, which would always fail. >I heard some talk that xdm might be changed to fall back to a console >login after a number of failures. > >Anyway, I had to boot from a Debian Rescue floppy to get in. Forget >about using the "rescue" command on that floppy -- it never worked for >me. Just go ahead as if you were going to do an install. *Very* >*carefully*, use the menu commands to mount your existing swap >partition and mount your root partition, and then switch to another >virtual console (Alt-F2, is it?). From there, disable xdm somehow, >such as by renaming the xdm script in /etc/init.d. Then reboot from >your hard drive as normal. > >I'm not going to use xdm again until such time as I have a backup root >partition set up (with xdm disabled) so that I can boot and repair >things without having to use the Rescue disk. > > Could Braden not simply try Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to a non-X virtual console? I'm too new at Linux to know, but I'd at least try it. Kent West, Technology Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abilene Christian Univ., Abilene, TX 915-674-2557 FAX: 915.674.6724 Amateur Radio: KC5ENO Debian Linux: Ride the wave with the penguins!
Re: Help ppp
mr anonym wrote: > > Hmm, pppconfig doesnt work, there is no command named pppconfig on > my comp (?) :/ > > >mr anonym wrote: > >> > >> Hello, i have just installed Linux, how do i do to get > connected(ppp)? > >> =) > >> > > > >As root, run pppconfig. It'll ask a bunch of questions, such as phone > >number to your ISP, and your login name and password, etc. Basically > >pppconfig creates a dial-up connection, like "Make New Connection" in > >Win95's Dial-Up Networking (gag, ack ack). The connection will be > called > >provider unless you override this name (which I don't suggest right > >now). Then it'll return to it's first screen, offering to create > >a(nother) new connection or to exit. Exit. > > > >After the connection is created, you should merely type pon to turn ppp > >on, and poff to turn ppp off. You can also use plog to see a log of ppp > >activity. If you plog right after typing pon, you'll see that it's > >trying to reset the modem. Wait a second or two, and then plog again, > >you'll see the modem is trying to dial. In other words, type plog every > >few seconds the first time or two that you connect so you can see how > >the log screen changes depending on where in the process the ppp > >connection is. > > > >After you get a connection up, (30 seconds or so after typing pon), you > >can ftp or telnet or lynx, etc. > > > >Kent > > Okay, no problem. Run dselect and choose the Select option. Press the space bar to get out of the opening help screen. Then press the / key. This will start a search. Type in pppconfig and press the ENTER key. This should highlight the pppconfig package. Press the + (plus) key to mark it for installation. You may or may not get a screen saying there are dependency problems; if you do, just hit the space bar and it'll show you what dependency/conflicts there are. You probably just want to hit ENTER to accept dselect's recommendations. This will take you back to the screen where you can select other packages. You're done, so just press ENTER, which will take you back to dselect's main menu. Then choose the Install option. When it's done, I'd choose the Configure option just for good measure. Finally, when it's done, choose the Quit option. Now you can run pppconfig (assuming it didn't run during the install/configure phase, and even if it did, it won't hurt to run it again). Hope this helps. Kent
Re: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?
Quoting Philip Thiem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Why would 32-bit apps be limited to 32 bit integers?? Didn't we have 32
> bit avallible to us on the 286?? If not, I'm certain we were able to
> get around it then. Also if any one wants to make use of MMX registers
> there is even a 64-bit ASM MOV command avalible.
>
> In fact on my (nonmmx)k6-processor(I don't have a chance to test on a
> 386) this program returns 8 bytes(64 bits) just as it should;
>
> #include
> #include
>
> int main(void)
> {
> long long test;
> printf("\n\n%i bytes\n\n", sizeof(test);
> return 0;
> }
1) Posix requires time_t to be a standard integer type. "long long" is
(was?) a non-standard extension. (It was being discussed as a possible
standard.)
2) 64 bit math is _very_ slow on a 32 bit machine. Since time_t is used
all over the place (e.g., the filesystem) you'd seriously slow things
down by making it 64 bits.
3) Since 64 bit archs already use a 64 bit time_t, this is a problem
that will go away when 32 bit machines are phased out (I can't see most
hardware lasting forty years.)
4) Any program that stores data to disk as a time_t is already broken:
portability is not assured. Any disk file should be stored in a
platform-independent fashion.
Mike Stone
Re: Printing Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi again Shao! On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Shao Ying Zhang wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: > Hi all, > Thanks for all the help... But I still cannot print! don't worry, it will! ;-) > I have actually done it in debian before. But after I > reinstall the debian 2.0, then it stopped working... ...very extrange? did you also update the kernel? > I have compiled the parallel port within the kernel and > also as a module. I have tried both lp0 and lp1. But > > In the boot precess, I can also see the line: > > starting lpd spoolsomething like that... Ok first of all after bootup, execute the command "dmesg > /tmp/bootup.txt" and email us this /tmp/bootup.txt file edit /etc/init.d/lprng, and append " -x" in the FIRST line ^^^ Note the space then execute "/etc/init.d/lprng > /tmp/lprng.txt 2>&1" and email us /tmp/lprng.txt These will give us some extra information about what's happening regards, Ulisses - - "Computers are useless. They can only give answers."Pablo Picasso -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: latin1 Comment: PGP public key avaliable at http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver iQB1AwUBNhJDEA/N+5+NQ63pAQHpMAL+MdVBzzuAV92qWYrdYuFxsXiFCVQh6Mea yK7VZK6L4gsoG2K9NV2oequ8vBxcIh0NLLpmZBJqx7L/d+rbxx0kaeyFne6mR0fu fRPQ7CuoNC3tLkkqAwI6mXs+9KUVEsfw =qrhA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Printing Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Kent West wrote: > > > > What printer daemon does I have? (lpr or lprng) -- I suggest lprng > > To check this: dpkg -i | grep lpr > > > > > > regards, > > > > Ulisses > > This question is from Kent, not Shao. > > So, can I understand this to mean that lprng is a newer/better version > of lpr? In short: Yes, and is "backwards compatible" > When I tried the above command as a normal user, I got the following: > dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH. > dpkg: `start-stop-deamon' not found on PATH. > dpkg: `install-info' not found on PATH. > dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. > dpkg: 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH. > NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and > /sbin. > > So I figured the problem was that I wasn't logged in as root. So I su'd, > and tried the command again. This time I got: > > dpkg: --install needs at least one package archive file argument > > and then some help information. I double-checked the command and I had > the syntax the way you specified. Do I have something wrong with my > setup? No, it was a mistake: it's "dpkg -l" instead of "dpkg -i" regards, Ulisses - - "Computers are useless. They can only give answers."Pablo Picasso -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: latin1 Comment: PGP public key avaliable at http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver iQB1AwUBNhJD3g/N+5+NQ63pAQGAlQMAu/ck6fWxK4JqIkP0rOmumrvPon9zZO+u kPQ1gGt6lNuJ5QRp09eFeiP6dd58xg+cYQt+5mOlQgIxnRXkDSOWunAz4fSTFpqO OMoTHDhrg9dZ+rGBBdQvncOiLVReWvlm =UEul -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Dewbie Question: How can I install rpm package
Hi all, I just download sybase ase, it is in rpm format. I do not know how to install it in Debian. I am using Debian 2.0. Any help would be highly appreciated. Jianbo
bugs and bug reports
Hello fellow users! I was just scanning the new packages and wondered: How are bugs cathegorized, numbered and bug reports submitted? Most bug fixes are around "bug #26600", does it mean that 26600 is the total number of bugs discovered in all packages? I this case, When did the count started? I know that debian has a powerful system of bug reporting, but for that one needs to find the general location of the bug and reproduce it. What tools does one have to locate the bug (system bug/program bug/shell bug)? can one monitor each program's access to files, memory, and other resources? TIA.sasha.
Re: printcap rerouted filter
Jim Foltz wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 04:41:06PM +, Kent West wrote: > > Maybe I just don't understand how printcap/lpc/filters work (very > > likely). > > > > I've got a printcap entry like this: > > > > beeper:\ > > :if=/etc/magicfilter/beeper-filter:\ > > :lp=/dev/null:\ > > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/beeper:\ > > > > I've got a filter named beeper-filter that looks like this: > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > print "\ntest\n\n"; > > Try to use a shell script just to see if the filter is executing. > Try this: > > #!/bin/sh > echo "Test" > /tmp/testfile > > You may need to set the executable bit on the filter with chmod. > > > > > When I do a test print, such as > > ls -l | lpr -Pbeeper > > > > nothing happens that I can tell. The word "test" never shows up > > anywhere. > > > > Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? > -- > Jim Foltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Jim, but this didn't work. My beeper-filter file looks like this: #!/usr/bin/perl echo "test" > /tmp/testfile; The permissions on the beeper-filter file are -rwxr-xr-x My printcap looks as listed above. It's like the input filter is never being called. If I set the printcap entry so it remote prints to our network printer, like so: beeper:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/beeper-filter:\ :lp=:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/beeper:\ :rm=(the ip address):\ :rp=nimrod_2: I can do a "ls -l | lpr -Pbeeper" and get some output. I get a banner page (I'm not sure what Linux banners look like, so I'll mention that it's just 4 lines in top left of page with username, host, class, and job), and I get one page that has "totla 4131" and the ls -l output of a single file (out of many that should be there). I tried adding "cat" to the end of my beeper-filter file but that didnt' make a difference. However, I'm not too concerned with the printer output right now (I figure it's because it's a Laserjet, not an ascii printer). This is all just minimal testing to see if I can do what I want to do. What I really want to do is reroute a print job to an email message as well as to the printer. I'd take any help I can get on this. The suggestions I've had have been along these lines, but so far, I haven't been able to get it to work. Thanks! Kent
Re: Dewbie Question: How can I install rpm package
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 10:08:36AM -0500, Jianbo Zhang wrote: > Hi all, > > I just download sybase ase, it is in rpm format. I do not know how to > install it in Debian. I am using Debian 2.0. Any help would be highly > appreciated. There is a debian package of rpm (RedHat package manager) that you can install on your system. You should also install the "Alien" package, and you can use Alien/rpm to install your software. Matt
Re: Error - - Where the hell adobe - Helvetica font!!
*-"Person, Rod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | Hey all, | | I keep getting this error not from one app but numerous apps (i.e. | wmaker's WPrefs, afterstep(won't boot because of it) and various | others). For some reason I keep getting the error can't find | -adobe-Helvetica-font. (I may have spelled this wrong but that not | the reason for the error...). I have downloaded and install the | following fonts and related stuff... | | freefonts | freetype tools | gsfonts | freetype tools | figfonts | and other I think I can't rememberI even downloaded Acrobat | Reader - assuming since adobe makes that the fonts would be there | WRONG!!! got the error with that too!! | | I know I did NOT install the 75dpi and 100dpi fonts. So can | someone tell me where the heck can I find this damn font so I can't stop | this annoying error and see if this the only reason that afterstep and | other apps won't run. Eh, in xfnt75 and xfnt100, exactly those you do not have. -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't install Debian
Hi every one i am so new user, I didn't even install Debian on my machine. :-) Every time I boot from the rescue disk (resc1440.bin) or from my dos partition; the system reboots itself after the: Loading linux . message there are some aditional messages after that but they are disappire before i can read them and my machine reboots. I tried to use the same floppy on other machines and it worked fine. I chacked the memory - it's ok I tried to load with boot parameter - nothing worked I have an Intel Pentum 200 mother bord with the folowing devices: ATI video adapter US robotics modem (no win modem) Fly video II video capyuring card SoundBlaster 16b pro Audio card If anyone can help me I'll be very greatfull By NIR
Re: printcap rerouted filter
Kent West wrote: > > Jim Foltz wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 04:41:06PM +, Kent West wrote: > > > Maybe I just don't understand how printcap/lpc/filters work (very > > > likely). > > > > > > I've got a printcap entry like this: > > > > > > beeper:\ > > > :if=/etc/magicfilter/beeper-filter:\ > > > :lp=/dev/null:\ > > > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/beeper:\ > > > > > > I've got a filter named beeper-filter that looks like this: > > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > > print "\ntest\n\n"; > > > > Try to use a shell script just to see if the filter is executing. > > Try this: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > echo "Test" > /tmp/testfile > > > > You may need to set the executable bit on the filter with chmod. > > > > > > > > When I do a test print, such as > > > ls -l | lpr -Pbeeper > > > > > > nothing happens that I can tell. The word "test" never shows up > > > anywhere. > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? > > -- > > Jim Foltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thanks Jim, but this didn't work. My beeper-filter file looks like this: > > #!/usr/bin/perl > echo "test" > /tmp/testfile; > > The permissions on the beeper-filter file are -rwxr-xr-x > > My printcap looks as listed above. > > It's like the input filter is never being called. If I set the printcap > entry so it remote prints to our network printer, like so: > beeper:\ > :if=/etc/magicfilter/beeper-filter:\ > :lp=:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/beeper:\ > :rm=(the ip address):\ > :rp=nimrod_2: > > I can do a "ls -l | lpr -Pbeeper" and get some output. I get a banner > page (I'm not sure what Linux banners look like, so I'll mention that > it's just 4 lines in top left of page with username, host, class, and > job), and I get one page that has "totla 4131" and the ls -l output of a > single file (out of many that should be there). I tried adding "cat" to > the end of my beeper-filter file but that didnt' make a difference. > However, I'm not too concerned with the printer output right now (I > figure it's because it's a Laserjet, not an ascii printer). > > This is all just minimal testing to see if I can do what I want to do. > What I really want to do is reroute a print job to an email message as > well as to the printer. I'd take any help I can get on this. The > suggestions I've had have been along these lines, but so far, I haven't > been able to get it to work. > > Thanks! > > Kent Silly me; I should have read your instructions more carefully. I changed the #!/usr/bin/perl to #!/bin/sh and the testfile was created properly. You may be on to something. Any suggestions as to what I do next?
Re: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 11:01:22AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> Quoting Philip Thiem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Why would 32-bit apps be limited to 32 bit integers?? Didn't we have 32
> > bit avallible to us on the 286?? If not, I'm certain we were able to
> > get around it then. Also if any one wants to make use of MMX registers
> > there is even a 64-bit ASM MOV command avalible.
> >
> > In fact on my (nonmmx)k6-processor(I don't have a chance to test on a
> > 386) this program returns 8 bytes(64 bits) just as it should;
> >
> > #include
> > #include
> >
> > int main(void)
> > {
> > long long test;
> > printf("\n\n%i bytes\n\n", sizeof(test);
> > return 0;
> > }
>
> 1) Posix requires time_t to be a standard integer type. "long long" is
> (was?) a non-standard extension. (It was being discussed as a possible
> standard.)
>
> 2) 64 bit math is _very_ slow on a 32 bit machine. Since time_t is used
> all over the place (e.g., the filesystem) you'd seriously slow things
> down by making it 64 bits.
Well heres an idea...
Currently time_t only USES 31 bits. Why? because it is signed!
if we were to make time_t unsigned then it would double the amount of
available time till the overflow
(by double I mean double from the epoch. that would mean 2038 ius the
halfway point... which gives us another 69 years after 2038...or
2107)
of course the ramifications of this would need to be tested...
hmm... wish I had a spare machine to try it on
> 3) Since 64 bit archs already use a 64 bit time_t, this is a problem
> that will go away when 32 bit machines are phased out (I can't see most
> hardware lasting forty years.)
I agree...but...they still could be. Isn't that exactly what the people who
were writting mainframe applications a few yars ago said? :)
"Nah this system wont be in use past 93 forget about 99"
-Steve
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Re: Dewbie Question: How can I install rpm package
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 10:08:36AM -0500, Jianbo Zhang wrote: > Hi all, > > I just download sybase ase, it is in rpm format. I do not know how to > install it in Debian. I am using Debian 2.0. Any help would be highly > appreciated. There is a debian rpm package but...it doesn't work on its own (not being a distro which uses rpm we don't have the RPM package information and databases it needs) but... you can install alien which uses rpm. my advice...I have used alien only a few times... do this: alien -tc RPMFILE.rpm then you will have a tarball (RPMFILE.tgz) in the directory. make a new dir temp and untar it into temp (mv RPMFILE.tgz temp;cdtemp; tar xvf *) This will give you a chance to look at it. I would recommend installin git by hand into /usr/local -Steve -- /* -- Stephen Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> */ E-mail "Bumper Stickers": "A FREE America or a Drug-Free America: You can't have both!" "honk if you Love Linux"
Re: printcap rerouted filter
Okay, I'm getting closer to my goal of routing a printjob to both an
email message and a printer.
My beeper-filter looks like this:
#!/bin/sh (originally /usr/bin/perl)
my $MAIL
open (MAIL, "|mail -s \"911 Call\" [EMAIL PROTECTED]");
while (<>) {
print MAIL;
print;
}
close (MAIL);
I'm not familiar with either shell programming or perl programming;
someone sent this file (in it's basics) to me, only it was designed for
perl. I never could get a perl script to work, but a simple shell script
(designed to route captured print data to a text file) workd. So I've
simply changed his perl script to be a shell script, but I suspect shell
commands/syntax are different from perl. I'd appreciate it if anyone
could either help me get perl to work, or help me to convert this script
to a shell script. Thanks!
Kent
Re: bugs and bug reports
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Alexander Gutfraind wrote: > How are bugs cathegorized, numbered and bug reports > submitted? See http://www.debian.org/Bugs > Most bug fixes are around "bug #26600", does it mean that > 26600 is the total number > of bugs discovered in all packages? Yes, but many of them are already fixed and closed. > I this case, When did the count started? I don't know. I was not a developer at that time...
Re: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?
Quoting Stephen J. Carpenter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 11:01:22AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > 2) 64 bit math is _very_ slow on a 32 bit machine. Since time_t is used > > all over the place (e.g., the filesystem) you'd seriously slow things > > down by making it 64 bits. > > Well heres an idea... > Currently time_t only USES 31 bits. Why? because it is signed! > if we were to make time_t unsigned then it would double the amount of > available time till the overflow > (by double I mean double from the epoch. that would mean 2038 ius the > halfway point... which gives us another 69 years after 2038...or > 2107) > > of course the ramifications of this would need to be tested... > hmm... wish I had a spare machine to try it on You could get some pretty interesting results from subtracting dates if you did this. A signed number wasn't chosen just to waste space. > > 3) Since 64 bit archs already use a 64 bit time_t, this is a problem > > that will go away when 32 bit machines are phased out (I can't see most > > hardware lasting forty years.) > > I agree...but...they still could be. If you're using a pentium-class machine in 2038, you deserve what you get. I can't believe it would be operative after that long. > Isn't that exactly what the people who > were writting mainframe applications a few yars ago said? :) > > "Nah this system wont be in use past 93 forget about 99" Not exactly. Migrating the time_t is just a matter of recompiling an app. (Unless your app was written badly in the first place.) You can test that migration today by running your app on a 64 bit machine like an alpha. The y2k problems are largely caused by existing data and by inadequate _program specific_ data representations. If your program uses a proprietary representation, it will need to be rewritten; if your program uses time_t, it needs a recompile with a new libc. And as I said before, if your data is stored as a time_t, you _already_ have problems because that's not a portable solution. mike stone
Re: unable dependence...
Chan Min Wai wrote: > you can find it at the www.debian.org on the pakages selection > > Phillip Neumann wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Im about to installing libmagick4g wich depends on `freetype1'. Whew can > > i find > > this pagacke? In the libmagick4g debian-package web-page, stand freetype > > as requ > > ired and next to it said it is not abailbe with this distribution... > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > __ > > / / > >/ Phillip Neumann / > > / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / > > _/_/ > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null Hi, Well i cannot find it. you can see at imagmakiks debian page: "Other packages related to imagemagick: * required- recommended + suggested * freetype1 This package is not currently available in this distribution. " So what should i do to install imagemagick ?? -- __ / / / Phillip Neumann / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / _/_/
crypt++el 2.84-2 mistakenly identifies file as Mac format
Greetings, I wasted a lot of time today figuring out why I couldn't read pgp-encrypted files into emacs any more, even though pgp works fine from a shell command line. The problem is that the 'Mac pattern in crypt-encoding-alist is far too general, apparently causing my encrypted files to be interpreted as if they were in Macintosh format. The bogus decoding that results completely messes up the file. I am working around the problem by setting crypt-auto-decode-buffer to nil so that I get a chance to ignore the bogus decoding. With that, I can read my PGP files again. It seems that any file in which the first \r character occurs before the first \n character and is immediately followed by any character other than \n will be interpreted as Macintosh format! It's been a while since my last probability/combinatorics class, but I think that, on average, roughly 50% of binary files will match that pattern. There's got to be a better way. -- Fred Yankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Michael Stone wrote: [ snip ] : If you're using a pentium-class machine in 2038, you deserve what you : get. I can't believe it would be operative after that long. I know people still sing PDP-11s -today- ! Who would have thought they'd still be around? Their cost of ownership is just to high to move to a newer system. To hell with them anyway, eh? -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: simple password
Hello, Well thanks, i didnt knew that `password' was so a simple password. I had my roots password insecure too, anyway i have no much interesting over here... I would like to try security. I have create an account here for user `secure'. For the password i have insert a word of 8 word-character. Now, how can i login as secure?? How can i guess the password ?? dsb3 wrote: > On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Phillip Neumann wrote: > > > > >I have now my password as `password123`. I still want to put it as > >`password`.. > > > > in case my other reply didn't make it to the right place, only as root can > you typically set a weak password if secure passwords are installed. I > hope you were being analogous in your password example. Setting ANY users > password to just 'password' (or any other password complained about for > being too weak) is an incredibly foolish thing to do. Certainly, you may > consider it a remote possibility, but at any time you are dialed up to the > internet, unless you or your distribution SPECIFICALLY restricts it, > anyone else in the world is able to attempt to connect to your PC. > > As soon as they log in as a user they have a fair crack at getting root > access if that also has a weak password. > > IT may sound trivial, but don't do it! use strong passwords as a habit. > > - dave > > -- > >| oOOooO / > --|oOobodoO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --| ooOoOo / >| II / "Rocky Road," croaked the Toad. >| II / -- __ / / / Phillip Neumann / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / _/_/
RE: X server problems
Kent West writes: > At 08:41 PM 9/29/1998 -0500, Fred Yankowski wrote: ... > >Anyway, I had to boot from a Debian Rescue floppy to get in. ... > Could Braden not simply try Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to a non-X > virtual console? I thought I tried that at the time and it didn't work, but perhaps I was using the wrong keystrokes since it works for me now, at least once X is up and happy. Hmmm... -- Fred Yankowski
Re: simple password
PS: tha 8 charachter passwords i have insert it without lokking in the keyboard, so i dont know it -- __ / / / Phillip Neumann / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / _/_/
Re: unable dependence...
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Phillip Neumann wrote: [ snip ] : Well i cannot find it. you can see at imagmakiks debian page: They're wrong. Use the debian packages instead :) ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/binary-i386/graphics/imagemagick_4.0.4-3.deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/binary-i386/libs/freetype1_1.0.0.1998-03-22-1.deb -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Okay then, incremental compiling and loading... Re: Free debugger that can do source debugging without executable.
How about incremental compiling and loading then? I've heard that there were Lisp environments that were doing this in the 1980s. Given C's popularity, and the fact that it's more than a decade later, is there an incremental compiling and loading environment for C? Robert Ramiega wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 04:57:49PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there a debugger or a way to get ddd to load and interpret a C source > > file and step through it a step at a time without requiring the > > debug-symbol compiled executable? I seem to remember doing something > > like this a long time ago with one of Borland's IDEs, but I might be > > mistaken. > You are mistaken. In that Borland IDE of old (TurboPascal 4.x+) code was > compiled before getting You into debugger > hmm of course i might be wrong =o) > > -- > Robert Ramiega | [EMAIL PROTECTED]IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate > IT Manager @ PDi | http://plukwa.pdi.net/| the power of Source > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
RE: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?
I think folks are giving too much credit to 64bit architecture
hardware. time_t is still 32 bits on dec alpha (dec unix 4.0b).
...
/*
* test time_t
*/
#include
#include
void main (void)
{
printf ("size of time_t is: %d\n", sizeof (time_t));
}
$cc -std1 junk.c
$a.out
size of time_t is: 4
If 64bit integer math is too slow, you could always use double.
You wouldn't loose too many billion years resolution...
jim
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Subject:Re: Y2K+38 disaster in debian?
Quoting Stephen J. Carpenter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 11:01:22AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > 2) 64 bit math is _very_ slow on a 32 bit machine. Since time_t is used
> > all over the place (e.g., the filesystem) you'd seriously slow things
> > down by making it 64 bits.
>
> Well heres an idea...
> Currently time_t only USES 31 bits. Why? because it is signed!
> if we were to make time_t unsigned then it would double the amount of
> available time till the overflow
> (by double I mean double from the epoch. that would mean 2038 ius the
> halfway point... which gives us another 69 years after 2038...or
> 2107)
>
> of course the ramifications of this would need to be tested...
> hmm... wish I had a spare machine to try it on
You could get some pretty interesting results from subtracting dates if
you did this. A signed number wasn't chosen just to waste space.
> > 3) Since 64 bit archs already use a 64 bit time_t, this is a problem
> > that will go away when 32 bit machines are phased out (I can't see most
> > hardware lasting forty years.)
>
> I agree...but...they still could be.
If you're using a pentium-class machine in 2038, you deserve what you
get. I can't believe it would be operative after that long.
> Isn't that exactly what the people who
> were writting mainframe applications a few yars ago said? :)
>
> "Nah this system wont be in use past 93 forget about 99"
Not exactly. Migrating the time_t is just a matter of recompiling an
app. (Unless your app was written badly in the first place.) You can
test that migration today by running your app on a 64 bit machine like
an alpha. The y2k problems are largely caused by existing data and by
inadequate _program specific_ data representations. If your program uses
a proprietary representation, it will need to be rewritten; if your
program uses time_t, it needs a recompile with a new libc. And as I said
before, if your data is stored as a time_t, you _already_ have problems
because that's not a portable solution.
mike stone
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Re: X server problems
*-"Stephen J. Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 07:47:15AM -0400, Chris Fury wrote: | > Braden N. McDaniel wrote: | > > Now when I boot the machine, my monitor goes to sleep as soon as the boot | > > sequence has completed. I *think* this is because I elected to being xdm up | > > at bootup when I initially installed everything, and now that setting is | > > kicking in. I suspect the problem may be that the X server has not yet been | > > properly configured. How can I get to a prompt so I can run xf86config? Sorry, I didn't see this before. If you use lilo you can type ' single' to boot into single user mode, which normally features no X'n'stuff. -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (Matt Welsh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting back into X after C-Alt-Fn'ing out.
I read some email in the Debian list a few minutes ago that said you can switch to a text mode virtual console from X by using Control-Alt-Fn and thought "cool, I always wondered if there was a way to do that... I think I'll try it right now!" So I did and then I could not for the life of me figure out how to get back into X. No manpages, info pages, /usr/doc wildcard greps etc gave me anything useful. As a last resort I removed the lock file and tried to isolate and SIGKILL xinit and WindowMaker and every X related process I could find and I still couldn't get back into X by restarting it, so I ended up *rebooting*. So, you guys can probably figure out what my question is :) Also, one other question. Is it possible to start two seperate X sessions, so that you could say have one X session running WindowMaker and the other one running E or something else, and switch between them via control-alt-fn or whatever? Thanks, Christopher
DATING SERIOUS ASIAN GIRLS
http://www.floor-kramer.nl Only for SERIOUS Dating.
Re: simple password
*-Phillip Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | I would like to try security. I have create an account here for user | `secure'. For the password i have insert a word of 8 word-character. Now, how | can i login as secure?? How can i guess the password ?? I hope noone flogs me for this, but those already in the know will gain nothing from this info, and those not will not be made into crackers just by reading this: The simplest approach: Get the encrypted password from /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow. (If you use shadow you shan't be able to read it without being root - a good thing). Then you just start generating all combinations of legal passwords, crypt'ing them and checking against the encrypted password. You will probably not be able to do this in a reasonable amount of time if the password is eight characters, not even with a C program. If you use a password with for example four characters it shouldn't take much more than a couple of minutes (rough estimate). It is also smart (though not in your case) to check for common things such as dictionary words, words followed by a digit and such. Note that if you use shadow passwords, ordinary users can not get the encrypted password, and will therefore have to try to log in with each password to try it. This is immensely slower than just crypting the word and checking against the real encrypted password. PS: The algoritm used for crypting is oneway only. There is no way to reverse the function and make it generate the cleartext from the encrypted word. PPS: If you want to try this, do it only on your personal computer. You should also be careful if your computer is connected to a network. -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting back into X after C-Alt-Fn'ing out.
> I read some email in the Debian list a few minutes ago that said you can > switch to a text mode virtual console from X by using Control-Alt-Fn and > thought "cool, I always wondered if there was a way to do that... I > think I'll try it right now!" So I did and then I could not for the life > of me figure out how to get back into X. No manpages, info pages, > /usr/doc wildcard greps etc gave me anything useful. As a last resort I > removed the lock file and tried to isolate and SIGKILL xinit and > WindowMaker and every X related process I could find and I still > couldn't get back into X by restarting it, so I ended up *rebooting*. > So, you guys can probably figure out what my question is :) X is on console 7; just alt-f7 > Also, one other question. Is it possible to start two seperate X > sessions, so that you could say have one X session running WindowMaker > and the other one running E or something else, and switch between them > via control-alt-fn or whatever? yes, at least if you're using xdm. as root, X :1 -query localhost will give you a new login screen on console 8. I don't think user's can launch new ones under xdm, but don't hold me to that. you can also use -bpp 16 or whathaveyou to run at a different depth, too --
Re: navigator 3 binary?
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Raymond A. Ingles wrote: > On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Michael Stutz wrote: > > > Anyone know where to get a copy of the Netscape Navigator 3.x binary? They > > took it off their ftp sites; archive.netscape.com does not allow anon ftp > > logins. > > Is there a reason why you can't use anonynous login? I have no idea: franz# ftp archive.netscape.com Connected to psd1.netscape.com. 220 psd1 FTP server (Version wu-2.4(3) Tue Dec 27 17:53:56 PST 1994) ready. Name (archive.netscape.com:m): anonymous 530 User anonymous unknown. Login failed. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> But Tony Mollica pointed out on the list yesterday that username "archive" password "oldies" works: ftp://archive:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/archive/index.html#3.04 (I grabbed the binary last night, no need to send me a copy but thanks for the offer.) (Still can't wait for the day when Emacs w3-mode handles images and fonts. And is faster. It's otherwise very nice.)
Re: Getting back into X after C-Alt-Fn'ing out.
*-Christopher Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | I read some email in the Debian list a few minutes ago that said you can | switch to a text mode virtual console from X by using Control-Alt-Fn and | thought "cool, I always wondered if there was a way to do that... I | think I'll try it right now!" So I did and then I could not for the life | of me figure out how to get back into X. No manpages, info pages, | /usr/doc wildcard greps etc gave me anything useful. As a last resort I | removed the lock file and tried to isolate and SIGKILL xinit and | WindowMaker and every X related process I could find and I still | couldn't get back into X by restarting it, so I ended up *rebooting*. | So, you guys can probably figure out what my question is :) :-) Control-Alt-F7 should get you there unless you have done something unusual. | Also, one other question. Is it possible to start two seperate X | sessions, so that you could say have one X session running WindowMaker | and the other one running E or something else, and switch between them | via control-alt-fn or whatever? That should be possible with xnest, but I've never tried it myself. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~> dpkg --print-avail xnest Package: xnest Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 2148 Maintainer: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386 Source: xfree86 Version: 3.3.2.3a-1 Replaces: xbase (<= 3.3.2-4) Depends: libc6, xlib6g (>= 3.3-5), zlib1g Recommends: xfntbase Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/x11/xnest_3.3.2.3a-1.deb Size: 852112 MD5sum: 6adfe6db16188a158e80d841cfb64341 Description: nested X server This package provides an X server that is itself an X client. This allows you to run a server within a server. This is occasionally useful for testing new window managers and other X clients. -- The only way tcsh "rocks" is when the rocks are attached to it's feet in the deepest part of a very deep lake. (Linus Torvalds) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another Dewbie question
Hello all, I'm trying to do a stealth installation of Debian 2.0.34 on an old P75 system at work and am having some problems. 1) Network card - it has a EthernetExpress10 card. I got ahold of the source code for the driver and compiled it. Insmod says it's for kernel 2.0.33 and -f doesn't seem to do anything. 2) Kernel source - where is it? I can't find a /linux subdirectory anywhere. The installation was done off of floppies. Thanx for any help. Rgds John Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DATING SERIOUS ASIAN GIRLS
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://www.floor-kramer.nl > >Only for SERIOUS Dating. Sorry for this, as a service to our customers (and a convienience to the debian developers at cistron) we have local *only* newsgroups for several mailing lists. Unfortunately one of our users has spammed over all the newsgroups of our server, and some got through the cleanfeed filter. Ofcourse this users account has been disabled. Mike. -- "Did I ever tell you about the illusion of free will?" -- Sheriff Lucas Buck, ultimate BOFH.
Re: some WindowMaker questions ...
> Try looking through the (many) files in /usr/lib/menu. It may take you > some time to find what you're looking for, but it should be in there. > You should also be able to use the newest Window Maker (in Debian, it's > 0.20.0) -- the program WPrefs lets you customize your personal menu. I > haven't been able to get that feature to work in any of the previous > versions -- it always crashed WPrefs. I don't have any need to do a > personalized menu, either, so I haven't really used the config tool. > Good luck. wmprefs crashes if you have a new style WMRoot. i can't remember the exact filename, and don't have time to look it up right now, but there was a big thread on this on the window maker list not long ago. you should be able to find more info at: LIST: http://www.caldera.com/linuxcenter/forums/wmaker.html FAQ: http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~grapeape/wmfaq.html adam. Internet Alaska 4050 Lake Otis Pkwy Adam Shand (v) +1 907 562 4636 Anchorage, AK 99508 Systems Administrator (f) +1 907 562 4807 - http://www.spack.org/ - "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." - Pablo Picasso -
Re: simple password
On 30 Sep 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: >The simplest approach: Get the encrypted password from >/etc/passwd or /etc/shadow. (If you use shadow you shan't be >able to read it without being root - a good thing). >Then you just start generating all combinations of legal >passwords, crypt'ing them and checking against the >encrypted password. You will probably not be able to do >this in a reasonable amount of time if the password is eight >characters, not even with a C program. If you use a password >with for example four characters it shouldn't take much more than >a couple of minutes (rough estimate). the simplest approach is more likely to be this: 1) get Alec Muffett's wonderful Crack program 2) compile, configure and go make coffee Alec also distributes a CrackLib library which can be used to assist in forcing users to choose secure passwords. - dave -- | oOOooO / --|oOobodoO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --| ooOoOo / | II / "Rocky Road," croaked the toad. | II /
Re: Getting back into X after C-Alt-Fn'ing out.
On 30 Sep 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: >*-Christopher Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >| >| I read some email in the Debian list a few minutes ago that said you can >| switch to a text mode virtual console from X by using Control-Alt-Fn and >| thought "cool, I always wondered if there was a way to do that... I >| think I'll try it right now!" So I did and then I could not for the life >| of me figure out how to get back into X. > >:-) Control-Alt-F7 should get you there unless you have done >something unusual. a better approach might be to use Alt-F1 followed by Alt-LeftArrow. This will take you to the highest numbered vterm. unless I'm just odd in extending my virtual terminals to cover all 12 function keys?? -dave -- | oOOooO / --|oOobodoO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --| ooOoOo / | II / "Rocky Road," croaked the toad. | II /
Re: Okay then, incremental compiling and loading... Re: Free debugger that can do source debugging without executable.
Christopher Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about incremental compiling and loading then? I've heard that > there were Lisp environments that were doing this in the > 1980s. Given C's popularity, and the fact that it's more than a > decade later, is there an incremental compiling and loading > environment for C? Check out http://root.cern.ch/. It does not do exactly what you want, but it should get pretty close. Regards, Hein
Re: Okay then, incremental compiling and loading... Re: Free debugger that can do source debugging without executable.
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 09:44:36AM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: > How about incremental compiling and loading then? I've heard that there > were Lisp environments that were doing this in the 1980s. Given C's > popularity, and the fact that it's more than a decade later, is there an > incremental compiling and loading environment for C? I've never heard about such solutions. -- Robert Ramiega | [EMAIL PROTECTED]IRC: _Jedi_ | Don't underestimate IT Manager @ PDi | http://plukwa.pdi.net/| the power of Source
Getting back into X after C-Alt-Fn'ing out.
Christopher Barry writes: > I read some email in the Debian list a few minutes ago that said you can > switch to a text mode virtual console from X by using Control-Alt-Fn and > thought "cool, I always wondered if there was a way to do that... I > think I'll try it right now!" So I did and then I could not for the life > of me figure out how to get back into X. Control-Alt-F7 restores the X display on my system. I often get a spurious popup menu from emacs when I return, but it's OK otherwise. -- Fred Yankowski
Re: can't install Debian
Nir wrote: > Hi every one > i am so new user, I didn't even install Debian on my machine. :-) > > Every time I boot from the rescue disk (resc1440.bin) or from my dos > partition; the system reboots itself after the: > Loading linux . message > there are some aditional messages after that but they are disappire before i > can read them and my machine reboots. There are more than this boot floppies. Could you try the other resc*.bin* files? > I tried to use the same floppy on other machines and it worked fine. I seem to remember that there were problems with some special motherboards in former time. Regards, Joey -- There are lies, statistics and benchmarks.
Tcl/Tk tutorials or manuals available on line?
Hi! Sorry, this question is not strictly debian related, but because debian is the reason why I have to use Tcl/Tk, I dare to send it here... Does anybody know about any GOOD Tcl/Tk tutorials or manuals available on line, except of http://hegel.ittc.ukans.edu/topics/tcltk/welchbook.ps.gz ? TIA Wojtek Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting back into X after C-Alt-Fn'ing out.
Christopher Barry wrote: > > I read some email in the Debian list a few minutes ago that said you can > switch to a text mode virtual console from X by using Control-Alt-Fn and > thought "cool, I always wondered if there was a way to do that... I > think I'll try it right now!" So I did and then I could not for the life > of me figure out how to get back into X. No manpages, info pages, > /usr/doc wildcard greps etc gave me anything useful. As a last resort I > removed the lock file and tried to isolate and SIGKILL xinit and > WindowMaker and every X related process I could find and I still > couldn't get back into X by restarting it, so I ended up *rebooting*. > So, you guys can probably figure out what my question is :) Alt-F7 should return you to the VC that's running X. > Also, one other question. Is it possible to start two seperate X > sessions, so that you could say have one X session running WindowMaker > and the other one running E or something else, and switch between them > via control-alt-fn or whatever? I haven't a clue. > Thanks, > Christopher > Kent
Hylafax
Hi. I was wondering if it is possible to get Win95 clients to work with Hylafax? If so, how? regards, vincent murphy
gsumi sigsegv
Hi, I am using Debian 2 and also I installed the Xinput extension with support for my Wacom Artpad. Using my stylus instead of my mouse works fine. However when I start gsumi (I also installed GTK) I get a "** ERROR **: sigsegv caught" Message. Does anyone know what might be causing this problem? Thanks, Felix
