Re: Dosemu lredir problem

[dfederman]

> On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Neilen Marais wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I can't seem to get lredir to work in dosemu.
> > 
> > I am using the dosemu package from hamm.  I have an msdos partition
> > mounted on /dos.  In dosemu I type
> > 
> > lredir d: LINUX\FS/dos
> > 
> > And then get error 3c.  And I can't seem to find the meaning of the
> > errors anywhere in the docs.

I finally solved this problem by using the setup program in one of the
dosemu directories.  This made a new HDIMAGE using my machine's files and
magically lredir began to work.

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Re: multiple fs types for user floppy access?

[Nicolás Lichtmaier]

On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 02:38:52PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I currently have my floppy set up so that users can mount ms floppies with 
> the 
> line
> 
> /dev/fd0/floppy msdos   user,rw 0   0
> 
> in /etc/fstab
> 
> I tried changing "msdos" to "auto", but no dice.  Is there a change so that 
> it 
> can automount both msdos and ext2 disks?

 What about having several mount points?

/dev/fd0/floppy/fat msdos   user,rw 0   0
/dev/fd0/floppy/ext2ext2user,rw 0   0
[etc...]


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Re: Mail is Slow to send

[Will Lowe]

On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Mark W. Blunier wrote:

> I use smail/pine for reading mail.   When I send out a
> message it can take a couple of minutes before pine
> lets me do more reading.  Is this normal, or do I have
> something misconfigured?  I chose option 1 on the smail
> config, but do not have a smart host.

Try "enable background sending" from Main/Setup/Config.

Also,  when posting news,  it _does_ take a while,  and I'm not sure why.

Will


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Re: telnet and ftp

[Daniel Martin at cush]

Robert Eckard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I cannot telnet or ftp into my Debian box.  When attempted, it says
> something like connection refused from server.
> Again, where should I start to look to try and resolve this problem?

Well, this also explains your mail problem.  I assume that you have
the netbase package installed; if not, then install it.  Check to see
that inetd is running: 
ps -aux | grep '[i]netd'
If this command shows nothing, then inetd (which monitors the TCP
ports for standard internet services and then dispatches them to the
appropriate program) isn't running - try re-installing netbase.


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Re: multiple fs types for user floppy access?

[Daniel Martin at cush]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I currently have my floppy set up so that users can mount ms floppies with 
> the 
> line
> 
> /dev/fd0/floppy msdos   user,rw 0   0
> 
> in /etc/fstab
> 
> I tried changing "msdos" to "auto", but no dice.  Is there a change so that 
> it 
> can automount both msdos and ext2 disks?

Well, type auto _should_ do it, but I've also discovered that it
doesn't work.  One easy way to use multiple types of disks then is to
put multiple lines for /dev/fd0 in your /etc/fstab:
 /dev/fd0/floppy/msdos msdos   user,rw 0   0
 /dev/fd0/floppy/ext2 ext2   user,rw 0   0
 /dev/fd0/floppy/vfat vfat   user,rw 0   0

And then create the directories "msdos", "ext2", and "vfat" underneath 
/floppy.  (You might leave the old line in there too, so that users
expecting "mount /floppy" to work wouldn't get confused - there's
nothing harmful about mounting to a non-empty directory)


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vt100 On a wyse terminal

[Michael Beattie]

Hi, I am trying to get an old Wyse terminal going on my linux box, all is
well, but I have not been able to get keys like PageUp, PageDown, Home and
End to work. The Function Keys were another story, they were comparitively
easy. strings like {ESC}OP, {ESC}OQ, {ESC}OR  etc.  The place I found
these had {ESC}[H for Home and {ESC}[K for End. But they dont work. can
anybody shine some light on this subject??? I would love to hear from
you Oh yeah.. Im using vt100 for the terminal.
BTW: I am not currently on the mailing list so please email me a reply. :)

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Re: What about a "Linux" key?

[Daniel Martin at cush]

Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello PC users!
> 
> What about putting a penguin sticker on top of those "Window 95"
> keys on all new keyboards ?
> 
> They could come handy as new modifiers, for example to switch
> virtual consoles, leaving Alt free and providing a good alternative
> for Ctrl-alt(gr)-Fn in X and DosEmu; more, one could use them to
> control X window managers leaving usual keys for applications
> (e.g. Alt-Tab used by Midnight Commander is usually bound to some
> sort of cycling through windows), and we could use a single-key
> compose.
> 
> Their scancodes are already seen by Linux, but I could not find any
> way to bind them to a modifier (it seems there are no extra
> modifiers to use). Also, I'm not good enough to fiddle with
> xmodmap. Anyway I have been successfull in binding the menu-like
> thing to compose: "echo keycode 127 = Compose | loadkeys".
> 
> Is there a way to have a new modifier or we need to hack kernel? How
> is Linux doing on a Sun, since they have plenty of extra keys and
> modifiers?
> 
> Maybe we could build a new keyboard mapping table?
> 

Hmmm... on my machine the "menu" key becomes just that - a Menu key.
Xemacs seems to know about it (it brings up the same menu I see if I
use mouse button 3).  And, in an xterm, it sends Esc-[-2-9-~, which I
happen to think is very appropriate* (but this is from someone who
keeps a VT220 on the same desk and frequently connects to VMS
systems.) Also, I appear to have a modifer free - Mod3:

shift   Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
mod1Alt_L (0x40),  Multi_key (0x71)
mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3  
mod4Meta_L (0x73),  Meta_R (0x74)
mod5Scroll_Lock (0x4e)

(as you can see, I've made the right alt my compose key)
Of course, this is all X talk, and doesn't suggest anything about a
new map for the console in text mode (which would be nice - I'm a bit
annoyed at having one meta key for X and a different one for the text
console).  Also, as for what to do with all the keys a Sun has - in X, 
the problem has already been solved (by Sun).  It should be easy to
adapt the console mode from that.

* ^[[29~ is the sequence sent by the "Do" key on dec VT200 terminals,
  and in many VMS programs this key has a somewhat similar effect to
  Meta-X in Emacs.


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Re: vt100 On a wyse terminal

[Daniel Martin at cush]

Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, I am trying to get an old Wyse terminal going on my linux box, all is
> well, but I have not been able to get keys like PageUp, PageDown, Home and
> End to work. The Function Keys were another story, they were comparitively
> easy. strings like {ESC}OP, {ESC}OQ, {ESC}OR  etc.  The place I found
> these had {ESC}[H for Home and {ESC}[K for End. But they dont work. can
> anybody shine some light on this subject??? I would love to hear from
> you Oh yeah.. Im using vt100 for the terminal.
> BTW: I am not currently on the mailing list so please email me a reply. :)

Hmmm... I wonder where you got those sequences (using infocmp on
vt100, perhaps?  That seems to have those sequences for controlling
the terminal, not as sequences the terminal would send, though the
end-of-line sequence looks odd) - xterms (well, _my_ xterm) uses
Esc-[-H for home and Esc-[-F for end.

Here's a suggestion - use 'infocmp vt200' and look at what it says for
Home, End, Page Up and Page Down (these will be the khome, kend, kpp
and knp entries, respectively).  ('infocmp vt100' won't work since the 
vt100 didn't have those keys, though the later vt200s did).

Those seem to be the sequences sent by the console when in text mode.

kpp = key "Previous Page"
knp = key "Next Page"

(this is the way the labels read on the vt220, not "Page up" and "Page 
down" as on the PC)


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ipaliasing

[dan]

What's the best way to recompile debian to support multiple ips?
I've installed debian and have not been ablt to find the ip_alias module.
Does anyone know where this can be found?

Daniel DeSantis
Network Ops
Stratos Internet Group, Inc.

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compiling gnome-0.11?

[Brian K Servis]

Hello gnomers,

I am trying to compile gnome-0.11 and am running into trouble.  This
is the last error messages and text from the compile.

/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2  -o gnome-score-helper  
gnome-score-helper.o ../libgnome/libgnome.la -lgdk -lglib -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
-lX11  -lXext -lSM -lICE 
gcc -g -O2 -o _libs/gnome-score-helper gnome-score-helper.o -Wl,-rpath 
-Wl,/usr/local/lib ../libgnome/_libs/libgnome.so -lgdk -lglib -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
-lX11 -lXext -lSM -lICE
../libgnome/_libs/libgnome.so: undefined reference to `bindtextdomain'

I have gettext, guile, gtk, slib, xlockmore, libXpm, libjpeg, libpng, zlib
all installed either with deb packages or under /usr/local.  ld.so.conf
has /usr/local/lib in it and I have run ldconfig after I install each of
the above packages.  What am I missing?  I am really interested in
checking out gnome.  Thanks for any help or pointers.

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Re: IP-Masq (was Re: ms explo

[Tim Thomson]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, John Spence wrote:

> I'm wondering if running Debian has made this an easier process. I've read
> 100s of messages lately prior to trying this and practically none of the
> users with problems were Deb users.

I would think they're all the same, but still, I found it incredibly easy
to set up. The procedure to setup IP-Masq is pretty much the same for each
distribution, but maybe just the overall system makes it easier?

> > I've just been through the same thing with IP Masquerading. I created a 
> > file in /etc/rc.boot (I don't know whether that was the right place or 
> > not!) marked it as executable. It contained the following:

Why not just put the module names in /etc/modules? It's a lot easier.

Bye,

Tim

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Re: XFree86 setup problems

[Gregory Guthrie]

Thanks,

I installed the xserver-S3v server, since that is the chipset that my (S3
Virge) graphics card has; does it also have these features?

Greg

At 09:48 PM 1/8/98 +0200, Heikki Vatiainen wrote:
>Hi,
>
>If you have not already installed xserver-vga16 package, please do so. With 
>the xserver-vga16 package comes a utility named XF86Setup which will make 
>configuring X much more easier. You probably do not want to use the VGA16 
>server so answer 'no' when the installation script asks you if you want to 
>use VGA16 as your default server.
>
>The XF86Setup program also lets you to configure your mouse.
>
>I hope this helps,
>
>// Heikki


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[offtopic] Debian ISP in LA area?

[Hamish Moffatt]

Later this month I will be in LA for two weeks on business, and I would
like to find an ISP to dial up to (14.4k modem connection) to check
my email back here in Australia. Any Debian users running ISPs
in the LA area? Specifically, wherever is a local call from Hollywood.
(I don't follow the local call system over there).


thanks,
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SVGA Web Browser?

[Tim Thomson]

Hi,
Has anyone heard of a Web browser that uses the svgalibs (or some other
method), rather than X-Win? I have a 100meg hard drive, and have about
10meg free, so I don't really want to install X-win, plus I only have a
386SX, so X-win is rather slow.
I have been using lynx for awhile, and just downloaded the zgv image
viewer, and thought a Graphical web browser would be nice.

Would it be possible to port an X-win program, or one from somewhere else?

Thanks for any help,

Tim.

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mounting win95 partition was Re: multiple fs types for user floppy access?

[AJT60]

On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

>  /dev/fd0/floppy/msdos msdos   user,rw 0   0
>  /dev/fd0/floppy/ext2 ext2   user,rw 0   0
>  /dev/fd0/floppy/vfat vfat   user,rw 0   0
> 

Speaking of which,  I have a line which goes something like

 /dev/hda1  /win95  vfat[can't remember the rest]

on startup, it always complains about vfat being an unsupported fs. Yet
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /win95 works okay. Do I have to compile vfat
support directly into the kernel rather than as a loadable module or
something? 

Andrew
  


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Re: mounting win95 partition was Re: multiple fs types for user floppy access?

[Will Lowe]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
>  /dev/hda1/win95  vfat[can't remember the rest]
> 
> on startup, it always complains about vfat being an unsupported fs. Yet
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /win95 works okay. Do I have to compile vfat
> support directly into the kernel rather than as a loadable module or
> something? 

vfat requires the FAT module to be available also -- is it?

Will


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Re: Mail is Slow to send

[Anthony Fok]

On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Mark W. Blunier wrote:

> I use smail/pine for reading mail.   When I send out a
> message it can take a couple of minutes before pine
> lets me do more reading.  Is this normal, or do I have
> something misconfigured?  I chose option 1 on the smail
> config, but do not have a smart host.

Besides Will's excellent suggestion, please also try the following:

In your /etc/pine.conf.fixed (or /etc/pine.conf or ~/.pinerc),
your smtp-server setting is probably blank; set it to localhost:

# List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
smtp-server=localhost

Please let me know if it works.  :)  (I had this trouble a long time ago,
and took me a long time to figure out how to fix it, on my computer
anyway. :)

Anthony

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Re: mounting win95 partition was Re: multiple fs types for user floppy access?

[Daniel Martin at cush]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:
> 
> >  /dev/fd0/floppy/msdos msdos   user,rw 0   0
> >  /dev/fd0/floppy/ext2 ext2   user,rw 0   0
> >  /dev/fd0/floppy/vfat vfat   user,rw 0   0
> > 
> 
> Speaking of which,  I have a line which goes something like
> 
>  /dev/hda1/win95  vfat[can't remember the rest]
> 
> on startup, it always complains about vfat being an unsupported fs. Yet
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /win95 works okay. Do I have to compile vfat
> support directly into the kernel rather than as a loadable module or
> something? 
> 
> Andrew

Hmmm - assuming you have the default bo /etc/init.d/boot, the only way 
I can see this happening is if you don't have "vfat" in the list of
modules to load at startup in /etc/modules and have the "auto" line in 
/etc/modules commented out.  In this scenario, kerneld isn't started
until after the mount that ends up compolaining; later, at the command 
line, kerneld has been started and so loads the vfat module as
necessary, and mount at the command line succeeds.

Solution: uncomment the auto line.  (or add vfat into /etc/modules,
but I find that starting kerneld up as early as possible makes many
things much easier)

(actually, if module dependencies aren't working completely (as they
sometimes aren't), I can also see this happening if the "auto" line is 
commented out and "fat" isn't listed in /etc/modules)


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Trying to get debian to see over 64 meg of RAM

[Timothy G. Wells]

Greetings,

I would like to have 128 meg in my debian box but it won't recognize it. I
don't see any options during the make config process and the computer
physically does see the memory.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Re: SVGA Web Browser?

[Michael Stutz]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Tim Thomson wrote:

> Has anyone heard of a Web browser that uses the svgalibs (or some other
> method), rather than X-Win? I have a 100meg hard drive, and have about
> 10meg free, so I don't really want to install X-win, plus I only have a
> 386SX, so X-win is rather slow.

Such a beast would be great. Alas, I don't think one exists. Perhaps if
Mnemonic ever gets into beta, we'll see one.

There is one for DOS called Arachne (Caldera sells it as WebSpyder32).
Unfortunately, no source code -- though I've heard of Linux users running it
somewhere (maybe they got it to work under DOSEMU, but that doesn't solve
your problem either).

While I am a GNU/Linux and free software advocate, and enjoy turning very
low-end hardware into useable free software systems, I've been thinking
lately that it's more practical to run Caldera's OpenDOS/WebSpyder32 on a
machine like yours than run Linux, especially if using the Web is a
priority. I don't even know if you _could_ install X on that system -- it
would just be impossible to use.

Good luck,

m

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Re: IP-Masq (was Re: ms explo

[John Spence]

> > > I've just been through the same thing with IP Masquerading. I created a 
> > > file in /etc/rc.boot (I don't know whether that was the right place or 
> > > not!) marked it as executable. It contained the following:
> 
> Why not just put the module names in /etc/modules? It's a lot easier.

hmm..  Guess who has just discoverd their /etc/modules file? It gets
easier and easier.  I thought it was purely informational in spite of the
fact that it's in /etc

I'm wondering If I'm going to have to load any. I just succesfully ran
WS_FTP from the pretty looking machine and I know I haven't loaded the ftp
module.  It (ip_masq_ftp.o) isn't being loaded from anywhere that I can
find it.




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Re: PPP not finsihing connection for Earthlink

[Fabio Olive Leite]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Hi there,

> However, I get the LCP problem where they are being sent but not
> received.  I put LCP-MAX-CONFIGURE 30 in my options file and have
> upped it all the way to 150, but I still don't get any LCP's received.
>  Finally after 30 - 60 seconds the modem simply hangs up...

I've seen this on a local ISP, apparently their router doesn't care about
responding to echo requests, and it looks like pppd doesn't like it. I've
read every man pages and HOWTOs about it, but did not find a way to tell
pppd not to care about echo requests...

It seems all we can do is switch ISPs in this case. I hope someone can
prove me wrong on this and tell us how can it be done!

[]!
Fábio
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Re: Trying to get debian to see over 64 meg of RAM

[Will Lowe]

On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Timothy G. Wells wrote:

> I would like to have 128 meg in my debian box but it won't recognize it. I
> don't see any options during the make config process and the computer
> physically does see the memory.

You need an append mem=128M line in lilo.config.  Check the
bootprompt-howto at http://www.linux.org/

Will


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Explorer...

[Pure Energy]

Today i'd figured i'd try the Explorer package out. No go.. It just
spilled out the following. Any one else run into this? Any suggestions? 

Adrenolin [~]$>explorer
explorer: error in loading shared libraries
/lib/libqt.so.1: undefined symbol: __pure_virtual  


 
Explorer package and dependent icons

Adrenolin [~]#>dpkg -s explorer
Package: explorer
Status: install ok installed
Version: 0.72-2   

Adrenolin [~]#>dpkg -s explorer-icons-orig
Package: explorer-icons-orig
Status: install ok installed
Version: 0.72-2   


Adrenolin [~]#>dpkg -s qt1g
Package: qt1g
Status: install ok installed
Version: 1.31-1.3   


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new smail pkg (3.2.0.100-1.deb) problems

[Damir J. Naden]

When installing smail package, the only remaining package in hamm dist
was 3.2.0.100-1, so I installed thinking it had solved previous problems
with /etc/inetd.conf file. Well, the smtp line in /etc/inetd.conf is
*not* commented out, and I still get the same (?) message that fetchmail
sees the mail in my ISP mailbox, tries to retrieve it and smtp
connection is refused. I don't have any network cards and no local
networks (single PC box), only connected to the ISP. I can telnet from
VC to localhost.
The second problem is that the mail from root(while installing the
package - the test message) to localhost (my regular username is where
all the postmaster mail should go) is not delivered with the message:
#runq: /etc/smail/config: parse error: unexpected end of attribute
This message pops up on my VC where I'm logged as a root every time runq
attempts to send it...
Is this my fault or has somebody else encountered a similar problem(s)?
BTW, my answers to smailconfig when first installing:
1-internet site (SMTP via TCP/IP)
2-visible name: inforamp.net
3-other visible names: none
4-smarthost: inforamp.net
5-use inforamp.net for all mail that doesn't have to be delivered
locally
6-postmaster mail to dnaden
7-send a message to local address: yes
8-use inetd instead of the smtp daemon

Note that I can ftp to the Net thru the PPP connection without a
problem.

Can i fix this somehow?

Thanks again
Damir


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gs v.5.10

[G. Crimp]

I am preparing to install ghostscript and ghostview on my system.  
If anyone can help with the following questions I'd appreciate it.

On my Deb 1.3.1 CD are available 

gs v3.33-5
gsfonts v.4.01-5
zlib1 v.1.0.4-7   (already installed)
libjpeg6a v.6a-4  (already installed)
libpng1 v.0.89c-6 (already installed)

On the web I discovered that the latest version of gs is 5.10.
The site offering the source code said I would also need the sources for
the jpeg, zlib and png libraries.  The version offered at the site is the 
same for the jpeg and zlib sources but is version 0.96 for the png library.

Question:  Does anyone know if gs 5.10 will work with the libpng1
v.0.89c-6 already existing on my system ?

Failing this, if I install the new version of png offered
at the ftp site, is it backward compatible, ie. will the new version
correctly service those programs on my system that currently use the
older version ?

Question:  I see that ghostview is capable of rendering ps docs 
into graphics that can be sent to a non-ps printer.  What, therefore, do
I need a filter for ?

If I do need a filter, which one, aps or magicfilter, is
better, and why (if there is an answer to why) ?

Should I also look for newer versions of the filters on
the net if I am to install this newer version of gs ?


 thanks all,

Gerald Crimp


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Re: gs v.5.10

[G. Crimp]

On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 08:32:32PM -0800, G. Crimp wrote:
>   I am preparing to install ghostscript and ghostview on my system.  
> If anyone can help with the following questions I'd appreciate it.
> 
 
Forgat to ask.  If I download the newer ghostsc, will the ver. 4.01-7
fonts do or do I need to spend the time to download the ver 5.10 fonts ?

 
 thanks again,
 
Gerald Crimp


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Re: new smail pkg (3.2.0.100-1.deb) problems

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote:

> When installing smail package, the only remaining package in hamm dist
> was 3.2.0.100-1, so I installed thinking it had solved previous problems
> with /etc/inetd.conf file. Well, the smtp line in /etc/inetd.conf is
> *not* commented out, and I still get the same (?) message that fetchmail
> sees the mail in my ISP mailbox, tries to retrieve it and smtp
> connection is refused. I don't have any network cards and no local
> networks (single PC box), only connected to the ISP. I can telnet from
> VC to localhost.
> The second problem is that the mail from root(while installing the
> package - the test message) to localhost (my regular username is where
> all the postmaster mail should go) is not delivered with the message:
> #runq: /etc/smail/config: parse error: unexpected end of attribute
> This message pops up on my VC where I'm logged as a root every time runq
> attempts to send it...
> Is this my fault or has somebody else encountered a similar problem(s)?


I've just installed the latest release as well.  There are several
signifiant changes in the configuration files that correct a number of
previous bugs and significantly tighten security.  You really need to
go through the documentation and update your files.

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misc questions: screen, version notation

[G. Crimp]

I am in an interrogative mood this evening.  There are two things
that have often caught my eye when cruising the dselect selection
browser.  The screen package is one.  From the description it seems to
me to be pretty much the same thing as the virtual terminals that come
part and parcel with Linux.  Are they the same, or do they provide
something the VT's don't ?

How does one read the version numbers in the dselect window ?  Eg.,
gsfonts 4.01-5.  What does the -5 stand for ?

Thanks again,

Captain Question
(Gerald Crimp)


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Re: Mail is Slow to send

[Pure Energy]

On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Anthony Fok wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Mark W. Blunier wrote:

> In your /etc/pine.conf.fixed (or /etc/pine.conf or ~/.pinerc),
> your smtp-server setting is probably blank; set it to localhost:
> 
> # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
> smtp-server=localhost
> 
> Please let me know if it works.  :)  (I had this trouble a long time ago,
> and took me a long time to figure out how to fix it, on my computer
> anyway. :)
> 
> Anthony
> 

Anthony,
Thanx :) i've been going the "send in back-ground" thing so long
now i had forgotten to fix this.  Your suggestion worked here great. Just
have to add "localhost".

smtp-server=localhost

(I believe it's the second setting in /etc/pine.conf.fixed)

--Robert


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Re: new smail pkg (3.2.0.100-1.deb) problems

[John Boggon]

-Original Message-
From: Damir J. Naden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Friday, 9 January 1998 2:37 pm
Subject: new smail pkg (3.2.0.100-1.deb) problems


>When installing smail package, the only remaining package in hamm dist
>was 3.2.0.100-1, so I installed thinking it had solved previous problems
>with /etc/inetd.conf file. Well, the smtp line in /etc/inetd.conf is
>*not* commented out, and I still get the same (?) message that fetchmail
>sees the mail in my ISP mailbox, tries to retrieve it and smtp
>connection is refused. I don't have any network cards and no local
>networks (single PC box), only connected to the ISP. I can telnet from
>VC to localhost.
>The second problem is that the mail from root(while installing the
>package - the test message) to localhost (my regular username is where
>all the postmaster mail should go) is not delivered with the message:
>#runq: /etc/smail/config: parse error: unexpected end of attribute
>This message pops up on my VC where I'm logged as a root every time runq
>attempts to send it...
>Is this my fault or has somebody else encountered a similar problem(s)?
>BTW, my answers to smailconfig when first installing:
>1-internet site (SMTP via TCP/IP)
>2-visible name: inforamp.net
>3-other visible names: none
>4-smarthost: inforamp.net
>5-use inforamp.net for all mail that doesn't have to be delivered
>locally
>6-postmaster mail to dnaden
>7-send a message to local address: yes
>8-use inetd instead of the smtp daemon
>
>Note that I can ftp to the Net thru the PPP connection without a
>problem.
>
>Can i fix this somehow?
>


I had the same problem as this today after upgrading last night

Check the last line in your /etc/smail/config file. Mine had the last " in
the wrong place. Move it back one space and all should be ok.

John


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Re: misc questions: screen, version notation

[Asher Haig]

G. Crimp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/8/98 10:51 PM

>   I am in an interrogative mood this evening.  There are two things
>that have often caught my eye when cruising the dselect selection
>browser.  The screen package is one.  From the description it seems to
>me to be pretty much the same thing as the virtual terminals that come
>part and parcel with Linux.  Are they the same, or do they provide
>something the VT's don't ?

Screen is more for over telnet sessions etc. It also provides the ability 
to detach (either great, or evil, depending on who you ask) screens and 
resume them later.


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Re: misc questions: screen, version notation

[Joey Hess]

G. Crimp wrote:
>   I am in an interrogative mood this evening.  There are two things
> that have often caught my eye when cruising the dselect selection
> browser.  The screen package is one.  From the description it seems to
> me to be pretty much the same thing as the virtual terminals that come
> part and parcel with Linux.  Are they the same, or do they provide
> something the VT's don't ?

Screen is useful becuase you can use it in situation where you're not at the
console -- telnet to a remote host and run screen therem run it in your
xterm, or from a dumb terminal.

It also has additional handy features, most notable is the ability to
"detach" the programs running under screen, and reattach to them later, from
elsewhere.
 
>   How does one read the version numbers in the dselect window ?  Eg.,
> gsfonts 4.01-5.  What does the -5 stand for ?

It's the debian version number.

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Colors

[Colson E.]

I want to have colors under X. For 
that, I have tried to install x term color of the Slackware's Distribution. But 
there's a problem.
Have you an other idea, 
please.
 
By advance.
 
Eric.

Why use pgp?

[Tim Thomson]

Hi,
I've installed pgp-i, to see what it's about. I've noticed many people
have pgp signatures in their messages, and some offer the signature via
finger.

I know why you would want to use it to send encrypted messages, but why do
you want to sign your messages? 
I read that it's so you know what you are reading is from the right
person, but do that many people want to know that the message they are
reading is from who they say they are? Commercial users sure : they need
to know they aren't reading messages from the competition, but why us in a
mailing-list?

I'm perfectly happy setting up pgp and pine-pgp on my system, I just
wanted to ask if it's worth it, as I'm only going to be posting to here,
my friends, most of whom won't have pgp installed, and the odd newsgroup.

Thank for any help,

Tim

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Re: Internet access with Debian --long reply

[Jameson Burt]

> Hi guys,
> 
> I have expected just a problem,
> 
> I want to conect on the internet with my Debian.
> 
> I have configured the file /etc/ppp.chatscript, so that i have
> writing my provider's phone number, my login and pass
> But when i lauch ppp i don't know what i shall do.
> 
> Please help me so that i can reach the internet with Linux and not windows
> :)
> Pierre DUPUIS Cocon
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

This is a very long response.
I have spent hundreds of hours working out network problems 
on my home ppp connection. 
Such egregious costs in time most sane people would trade with money for a
Microsoft product, even though that choice would lack flexibility.
The Redhat distribution provides very nice network configuration.
I wish Debian had something like it, though Redhat took away some flexibility,
and stuffed some new network configuration files in non-standard places.
In Debian, you can use xisp for ppp connections, though xisp does not 
currently fully install in the Debian hamm distribution.

While the use of  /etc/ppp.chatscript can work, there is the Debian way
which gets at this file's contents through other files, in particular
/etc/chatscripts/provider.


First, you need to get around your computer a bit.
My comments may refect my installed ppp package, version 2.3.1-6.
1. dpkg -L ppp
   shows the files in the ppp distribution.
   These include some documentation files.
   In particular, as is typical of Debian packages, 
   there is a file with "debian" that helps, so try
zless  /usr/doc/ppp/README.debian.gz#VERY USEFUL

2. Don't bother with suggestions to first try another piece of software 
   besides ppp; eg, minicom or seyon.  
   Instead, when you try pon, or "pppd call provider" 
   ["pppd call monumental" or "pppd call pressroom" for me],
   watch the log files, which may duplicate the same information, 
   and which can be actively viewed with; eg, "tail -f /var/log/ppp.log", 
/var/log/ppp.log
/var/log/messages
/var/log/syslog
   In particular, for the chatscript, you need your ISP's
   prompts for "Login:" and "Password:", which for me were
   "UserID:" and "Password:".  So, in /etc/chatscripts/provider,
   I include the lines, with-or-without the first few characters,
ID: jamesonp
ssword: \qZZ
   Notice the \q which puts ? in the log files, rather than your 
   secret password.
   This adds some security ---you'll be going out on the internet,
   and the paranoid imagine others trying to come in from the internet.


3. IGNORE PPP-HOWTO.
   This is one of the few HOWTOs you should ignore.
   Reading this HOWTO can get you connected, largely with a one-liner
   that in its succinctness instructs.
   However, debian installs ppp with certain files intended.
   You can run ppp the PPP-HOWTO way, but you will probably benefit by runnning
   ppp by your distribution's way, the Debian way.

   Still, by connecting the Debian way, then keeping in mind that Debian 
   does the same as the PPP-HOWTO with files rather than command line options, 
   or with different files,
   you can get very good advice from PPP-HOWTO.
   You can find it in /usr/doc/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO.gz if you installed the package
debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/doc/doc-linux-text_97.12-1.deb
   or you can get it from many Linux sites in the HOWTO directory.


4. Following README.debian.gz, I altered two files,
/etc/ppp/peers/provider
/etc/chatscripts/provider
   [
I might use more than one ISP, so I also have in these directories almost 
identical files with variations for my providers.  For example, I have the
files
/etc/ppp/peers/monumental
/etc/chatscripts/monumental
/etc/ppp/peers/pressroom
/etc/chatscripts/pressroom
and I link provider to monumental.
   ]   



5. Hints:  
a. You probably do not want start ppp on bootup.
b. Repeated use of pon can start multiple pppd daemons,
   but each poff turns off but one pppd daemon.
   I found this after pondering why my modem connection was often on.
   In the middle of the night, I had scripts run "mirror", 
   "fetchmail", etc over internet.
   After two months, I discovered this oddity about pon and poff. 
   Pon and poff's author designed them to half-way handle multiple 
   simultaneous ppp connections.
   Scarcely a person runs multiple simultaneous ppp connections, 
   and I altered his code to assure 
   that pon starts no second pppd daemon and poff stops all pppd daemons. 

   Essentially, my pon is
if [ -z   `/sbin/pidof -s -x pppd` ]; then
exec/usr/sbin/pppd call provider
fi
And essentially my poff is
/usr/bin/killall -q -TERM pppd chat
sleep 1
/usr/bin/killall -q -QUIT pppd chat
If you start pon as root, you cannot stop pppd wit

Fetchmail and Procmail. (Fixed pine)

[Ender Wigin]

Hi,

BTW I fixed Pine to all those who might have the Mailbox Lock problem the
solution is to "su -c chmod 1777 /tmp"

Now for the problem ... I have procmail installed and I configured it with
the .forward file as the mail-filtering FAQ sugjested ... to no avail ...
I was wondering if some nice person who has Fetchmail getting the mail and
Procmail sorting it could please explain how they did it ... and share
what is in there .forward file ...(It seems to me that procmail never runs
... IE: I never see it in a top srceen ...) ...

TIA
-Kevin.



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Re: vt100 On a wyse terminal

[Rick Pasotto]

On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 01:32:01PM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:
> Hi, I am trying to get an old Wyse terminal going on my linux box, all is
> well, but I have not been able to get keys like PageUp, PageDown, Home and
> End to work. The Function Keys were another story, they were comparitively
> easy. strings like {ESC}OP, {ESC}OQ, {ESC}OR  etc.  The place I found
> these had {ESC}[H for Home and {ESC}[K for End. But they dont work. can
> anybody shine some light on this subject??? I would love to hear from
> you Oh yeah.. Im using vt100 for the terminal.
> BTW: I am not currently on the mailing list so please email me a reply. :)

What model Wyse and what emulation is it running? Your TERM variable
would need to be set to wyse??? if you're running in native mode. The
standard distribution comes with lots of wyse terminfos. Do you have a
manual? Do you know how to get into setup mode?

Rick


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Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

[Lindsay Allen]

I hope this is the final version for a while.  The script works here on a
freshly installed bo.

Watch out for line folding.

--- cut here ---

#! /bin/sh

# upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm).

# based on Scott Ellis' excellent "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO"
# document at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

# Author: Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Copyright Status: This script is hereby placed in the public domain
#
# Revision History:
# v0.0: 1998-01-08 (morning)
#   - a rough transcript of scott's doc and my own experiences
# v0.1: 1998-01-08 (night)
#   - a few bugfixes
#   - i got unlazy and put in the right subdirectories for each package. 
# should run a lot faster.
#   - now checks for failure at critical points and exits with a different
# exit code for each failure.
#   - now uses 'binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)' instead 
# of 'binary-i386'.
# v0.2: 1998-01-09 
#   - fixed the perl-base/perl install (thanks Lindsay!)
#   - improved the DEVPACKAGES=$(dpkg --get-selections...) and added -dbg
# packages.
# v0.3: 1998-01-09 (p.m.)
#   - fixed some directories
#  -  changed "-iB" to "-iBE" so that if the script fails and is run again
#   it will not disturb things already in place.
#   - added a final "dpkg --configure --pending".
#   - sanity check that we are in the right place added
#
# TODO: (probably by somebody else.  this script is mostly good enough imo)
#   - error checking

# first, build up a list of installed -dev packages so that we can
# remove them.  remove wg-15-locale too.
#
# this is necessary even on machines which aren't doing libc6
# development because libc5 can't be upgraded to latest version without
# removal of libc5-dev which also necessitates removal of other -dev
# packages like libdb1-dev and libdl1-dev if they are installed.

DEVPACKAGES=$( dpkg --get-selections | 
grep -v deinstall | 
cut -f1 |
grep -- "-dev$\|-dbg$" )

dpkg --remove -B $DEVPACKAGES wg15-locale || exit 1

# now install the new versions of things.  Just the bare minimum to let
# the user safely run dselect for the rest of the upgrade.

# change this to prompt the user for the location of the debian archive.
cd /debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)

# sanity check that we are in the right place
[ -f base/libc6_* ] || exit 9

# libc
#
dpkg -iBE base/ldso_*.deb base/libc5_*.deb base/libc6_*.deb \
base/timezones_*.deb admin/locales_*.deb || exit 2

# libreadline, ncurses, and bash
#
dpkg -iBE libs/ncurses3.0_*.deb base/ncurses3.4_*.deb  || exit 3
dpkg -iBE oldlibs/libreadline2_*.deb  || exit 4
dpkg -iBE base/libreadlineg2_*.deb || exit 5

# paranoia says run ldconfig NOW. don't laugh, i've needed to do this on
# some libc5-libc6 upgrades. i know that the postinst scripts for the
# libs are supposed to do it but 
ldconfig
dpkg -iBE base/bash_*.deb || exit 6

# new dpkg
#
dpkg -iBE devel/libg++272_*.deb || exit 7
dpkg -iBE base/dpkg_*.deb  utils/dpkg-dev_*.deb

# strictly speaking, dpkg-ftp and dpkg-mountable are not essential to
# upgrade right now but they're both very useful.
dpkg -iBE base/dpkg-ftp_*.deb admin/dpkg-mountable_*.deb

# perl
#
dpkg -iBE base/libgdbm1_*.deb devel/libgdbmg1_*.deb || exit 8
# paranoia says "run ldconfig now".
ldconfig
dpkg -iBE base/perl-base_*.deb || exit 9
dpkg -iBE interpreters/perl_*.deb

# paranoia says to run this at the end
dpkg --configure --pending

# paranoia says: "run sync", so lets do it :-)
sync ; sync ; sync 

# the user can now run dselect and select any -dev packages they want
# (and other packages too, of course :-)

more <<__EOF__

libc6 is now installed.  Now run dselect to upgrade the rest of your
system.  When that's done, reboot with "shutdown -r now" for the
utmp/wtmp wrapper functions in the upgraded libc5 to take effect.

BTW, if you aren't using it already, check out dselect's "mountable"
access method.  It's much faster than the standard "mounted" method, and
it logs everything that happens in /var/log/dpkg-mountable.  You'll want
to set "Allow overwriting repeated files?" to yes, and for extra speed
set "Enable MD5 checksumming?" to no.

Finally, remember to fix up wtmp and utmp, otherwise last and
who and sac etc wont work. here's what Miquel van Smoorenburg
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> had to say about this recently in debian-user
mailing list:

> 1. You need to update ALL your packages to hamm
> 2. Reboot if you haven't done that already
> 3. You need to move the wtmp file and truncate the utmp file:
>cd /var/log
>mv wtmp wtmp.libc5
>touch wtmp
>cd /var/run
>cp /dev/null utmp
> 4. You might want to reboot again to make sure
> 
> This is because the "struct utmp" and thus the utmp and wtmp
> "databases" are different between libc5 and libc6

__EOF__
---cut here---



=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Linds

Re: Colors

[Will Lowe]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Colson E. wrote:

> I want to have colors under X. For that, I have tried to install x term color 
> of the Slackware's Distribution. But there's a problem.
> Have you an other idea, please.
Install the debian xbase package,  which includes the standard color xterm
as /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm.


Will


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Re: Dosemu lredir problem

[Bob Bernstein]

Neilen Marais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can't seem to get lredir to work in dosemu.

If I recall arightly, this is a problem with the version of DOS you are
utilizing for dosemu. The DOS kernel that seems to come with dosemu doesn't
support network drives. (Is it a sort of OpenDos lite, or something?)

IAC, if you search the newsgroups you'll hear all about this; I think I
found the answer by searching Yahoo of all places, for 'dosemu lredir' or
some such. I'm sure DejaNews would clear things up for you quickly...

The solution is to provide another version of DOS to dosemu; it's SHARE.EXE
I believe that's missing. Sorry I can't be more authoritative about his, but
it's been months since I played with dosemu. It's simple enough though to
make a bootable DOS floppy with the required functionality.

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Re: Why use pgp?

[Will Lowe]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Tim Thomson wrote:

> I know why you would want to use it to send encrypted messages, but why do
> you want to sign your messages? 
Well,  we use it to sign other things.  Like,  for example,  when I upload
a new debian package,  I sign it so that the people who run ftp.debian.org
(and eventually you) know that that package really came from me -- I put
my name on it,  so I'd like to make sure noone's releasing stuff under my
name without my authorization.  By the same token,  you'd like to make
sure that I'm the person who did it,  so that if there's a bug,  or if it
releases some horrible plague on your computer,  you can get ahold of me.
:)

Newsgroups which are moderated (you can't post directly to them -- someone
makes sure that the post is relevant) usually have the moderators pgp-sign
the posts to insure they've been read by the moderator prior to public
posting.

> reading is from who they say they are? Commercial users sure : they need
> to know they aren't reading messages from the competition, but why us in a
> mailing-list?
Some people just have pine set up to auto-sign everything.

> I'm perfectly happy setting up pgp and pine-pgp on my system, I just
> wanted to ask if it's worth it, as I'm only going to be posting to here,
Sure.  It's not tough to set up,  and you'll need it if you ever become a
maintainer,  or anything else.  Pgp fingerprints and key id's are rapidly
becoming like Driver's Licenses on the internet -- everybody wants you to
produce one when you sign up for things.

Will


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Re: lp/ppa configuration; how to set to use printer?

[Mike Schmitz]

On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 01:26:17PM -0600, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
> I have a Zip drive on lp0, and at boot time it is recognized (een if no
> disk inserted), and then I cannot use lp0 to print.
> 
> The lsmod reports ls module loaded, no ppa module reported.
> 
> How can I disable ppa, and print?

You need to recompile the kernel, with module support for the Zip.  You'll
find it in the SCSI section.  Alternatively, there is a kernel patch that 
will allow you to use the pass-thru feature.  Info can be found at
http://www.torque.net/linux-pp.html

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Re: Why use pgp?

[Dan Hugo]

Will Lowe wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Tim Thomson wrote:
> 
> > I know why you would want to use it to send encrypted messages, but why do
> > you want to sign your messages?
> Well,  we use it to sign other things.  Like,  for example,  when I upload
> a new debian package,  I sign it so that the people who run ftp.debian.org
> (and eventually you) know that that package really came from me -- I put
> my name on it,  so I'd like to make sure noone's releasing stuff under my
> name without my authorization.  By the same token,  you'd like to make
> sure that I'm the person who did it,  so that if there's a bug,  or if it
> releases some horrible plague on your computer,  you can get ahold of me.
> :)



Something that might be less obvious is the fact that signing a message
not only authenticates the author (assuming your signature, or public
key, is available for someone to use for this purpose) of a message or
piece of code, but it also allows one to authenicate the content of the
message or code.  Public key encryption like PGP would allow the same
thing to a limited number of users for an encrypted message, but if,
using the same example, I want to post to a newsgroup and I want to make
sure that what I post is not altered in some way, I could sign it, and
then anyone who was interested could verify that the content that
appears on the group is what I actually posted (once they get my public
key).

Same goes for that code example... anyone who hacks the code between the
source and desitination would not be able to create an authentic
signature for the new content, so that the recipient could (should)
authenticate the message for content and author (or signer, actually),
then decide if the content is what it was when it was posted or sent,
and that the author or signor is trustworthy.

It's all very cool...

Check out Applied Cryptography, by Bruce Schneier, John Wiley & Sons,
Inc 1996, as it is pretty much THE text on this sort of thing.  There
are many web sites as well.

> Some people just have pine set up to auto-sign everything.

If I recall correctly, there are cases where one shouldn't sign
something.  If I can remember any, I'll post 'em...

Hopefully, nothing changed in this message.

-dh


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XINETD don't start

[Guido Bozzetto]

I've installed the xinetd package but at the boot time don't start.
I've 2 machines :

1) Debian 1.3.1.r6 with:
# dpkg -l xinetd
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  xinetd  2.1.7-3xinetd - replacement for inetd with
many enh

2) Debian hamm with:
# dpkg -l xinetd
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  xinetd  2.1.7-3xinetd - replacement for inetd with
many enh

with the same problem, xinetd starts if run then manualy from the
prompt but don't start automaticaly at boot. The problem is on the 
startup script /etc/init.d/xinetd :

#!/bin/sh
#
# Start networking daemons. (with xinetd)

test -f /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap || exit 0
test -f /usr/sbin/xinetd || exit 0

case "$1" in
  start)

but the /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap don't exist in the machines !!!
Where I can get them ? There are other solutions ?

In general, there is a method to know in which package is a 
specific program ?

Thanks for attention, Guido.
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Debian and the MANPATH variable

[Sébastien Phélep]

Hi,

I've solved quite all the problems I had with my server/clients running
Debian:-)
I now have a little trouble with the MANPATH environment variable...

I have set up my clients so that I can mount several servers quite the
same way:
/home is splitted into several parts, each belonging to a specific
server (eg for now: /home/server1 and /home/server2);
In /usr/local, I've added a 'produits' (imported products) subdirectory,
which itself is splitted like /home (eg /usr/local/produits/server1 and
so on).

These directories contain a /usr/local-like filesystem, ie they all
contain a bin, lib, etc and man (plus others) directories.
I've written a shell script that looks for available products servers,
and that automatically includes bin to the PATH, and sources a file in
etc containing the env variables needed by the installed products (eg:
MOZILLA_HOME for netscape).

The only problem that remain is that I _don't_ want to include the
servers' man directories in the client's /etc/manpath.config. I first
thought that if I set up the MANPATH variable to the servers' man dirs
it would work (and in fact in does), but when I do that I cannot access
the client's manpages -those defined in /etc/manpath.config- anymore.

Suggestion anybody ?
Thanx for your help.

Seb


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Re: Why use pgp?

[jdassen]

On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 12:44:10AM -0800, Dan Hugo wrote:
> Will Lowe wrote:
> > Well,  we use it to sign other things.  Like,  for example,  when I
> > upload a new debian package,  I sign it so that the people who run
> > ftp.debian.org (and eventually you) know that that package really came
> > from me -- I put my name on it,  so I'd like to make sure noone's
> > releasing stuff under my name without my authorization.  By the same
> > token,  you'd like to make sure that I'm the person who did it,  so that
> > if there's a bug,  or if it releases some horrible plague on your
> > computer,  you can get ahold of me.
> > :)
> 
> Something that might be less obvious is the fact that signing a message
> not only authenticates the author (assuming your signature, or public
> key, is available for someone to use for this purpose) of a message or
> piece of code, but it also allows one to authenicate the content of the
> message or code.

This too is used by the developers: when packages are uploaded to
master.debian.org, they are accompanied by PGP-signed .changes files; the
.changes files contain MD5 checksums of the uploaded files. Before packages
are moved to the location where ftp.debian.org and other mirrors pick them
up, their integrity is checked (first check the PGP signature, then 
compute the checksum on the files, and verify that they match those in the
(now authenticated) .changes file).

This way, even if a developer's account on master is cracked, or a package
is uploaded anonymously (e.g. from chiark), a malicious person cannot
introduce a malicious package into the distribution.

> If I recall correctly, there are cases where one shouldn't sign something.
> If I can remember any, I'll post 'em...

IIRC, you should'nt sign literal data received from somebody else, as that
can be used in an attack to gain information about your private key.

Greetings,
Ray
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Re: XINETD don't start

[Peter Bodnar]

Guido Bozzetto wrote:

> I've installed the xinetd package but at the boot time don't start.

...skip...

> with the same problem, xinetd starts if run then manualy from the
> prompt but don't start automaticaly at boot. The problem is on the
> startup script /etc/init.d/xinetd :
>
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> # Start networking daemons. (with xinetd)
>
> test -f /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap || exit 0
> test -f /usr/sbin/xinetd || exit 0
>
> case "$1" in
>   start)
>
> but the /usr/sbin/rpc.portmap don't exist in the machines !!!
> Where I can get them ? There are other solutions ?

I had this problem this week too...and solution is very easy:
In debian linux rpc.portmap is called only portmap, so you can edit
/etc/init.d/xinetd script and change rpc.portmap to portmap
or (i use this and its wokiing good) you can make link
/usr/sbin/rpc.portmap -> /usr/sbin/portmap

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Re: Debian and the MANPATH variable

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've solved quite all the problems I had with my server/clients running
> Debian:-)
> I now have a little trouble with the MANPATH environment variable...
> 

[ ... snip ... ]

> 
> The only problem that remain is that I _don't_ want to include the
> servers' man directories in the client's /etc/manpath.config. I first
> thought that if I set up the MANPATH variable to the servers' man dirs
> it would work (and in fact in does), but when I do that I cannot access
> the client's manpages -those defined in /etc/manpath.config- anymore.

If the MANPATH variable is used, it is the only list of paths
searched.  By default it has no value.  To determine the default
manpath, you can use the manpath command before MANPATH has a value.
You simply include the default directories in your MANPATH variable
using

export MANPATH=$(manpath 2>/dev/null):/mydir1/man:/mydir2/man

This is for bash.  Other shells are left as an exercise to the reader ;)

Eric Meijer

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Re: XFree86 setup problems

[Heikki Vatiainen]

The XF86Setup utility only comes with the xserver-vga16 package. The VGA16 
server in the xserver-vga16 package should work with any video card, so that 
is why the X based configuration utility comes only with it. Since I want to 
use higher resolutions and more colors than plain VGA can offer, I use the 
SVGA server from the xserver-svga package with my Matrox card.

If you want to try XF86Setup, install both xserver-vga16 and xserver-S3v.
The S3v server will be your main X server and the VGA16 server will be
used when configuring the main X server.

Here is a small snippet from the XF86Setup manual page:

DESCRIPTION
   XF86Setup is normally used to either perform  the  initial
   setup  of  the XFree86 X servers or to make adjustments to
   the existing configuration.

   When used to initially configure the XFree86  servers,  it
   will  start the VGA 16 server and then allow configuration
   settings to be entered.  Once that is completed the appro­
   priate  server  for  the  hardware will be started and the
   configuration settings will be saved.


Gregory Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Thanks,
> 
> I installed the xserver-S3v server, since that is the chipset that my (S3
> Virge) graphics card has; does it also have these features?
> 
> Greg
> 
> At 09:48 PM 1/8/98 +0200, Heikki Vatiainen wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >If you have not already installed xserver-vga16 package, please do so. With 
> >the xserver-vga16 package comes a utility named XF86Setup which will make 
> >configuring X much more easier. You probably do not want to use the VGA16 
> >server so answer 'no' when the installation script asks you if you want to 
> >use VGA16 as your default server.
> >
> >The XF86Setup program also lets you to configure your mouse.
> >

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Re: Why use pgp?

[Chuma Agbodike]

How about the so called Certificate Authorities?
Should one use them ?
And if am paranoid should I trust them ?
What if I impersonate someone and give out keys under their name ?
I read something about such issues long ago , but still don't understand.

Chuma



Dan Hugo wrote:

> Will Lowe wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Tim Thomson wrote:
> >
> > > I know why you would want to use it to send encrypted messages, but why do
> > > you want to sign your messages?
> > Well,  we use it to sign other things.  Like,  for example,  when I upload
> > a new debian package,  I sign it so that the people who run ftp.debian.org
> > (and eventually you) know that that package really came from me -- I put
> > my name on it,  so I'd like to make sure noone's releasing stuff under my
> > name without my authorization.  By the same token,  you'd like to make
> > sure that I'm the person who did it,  so that if there's a bug,  or if it
> > releases some horrible plague on your computer,  you can get ahold of me.
> > :)
>
> Something that might be less obvious is the fact that signing a message
> not only authenticates the author (assuming your signature, or public
> key, is available for someone to use for this purpose) of a message or
> piece of code, but it also allows one to authenicate the content of the
> message or code.  Public key encryption like PGP would allow the same
> thing to a limited number of users for an encrypted message, but if,
> using the same example, I want to post to a newsgroup and I want to make
> sure that what I post is not altered in some way, I could sign it, and
> then anyone who was interested could verify that the content that
> appears on the group is what I actually posted (once they get my public
> key).
>
> Same goes for that code example... anyone who hacks the code between the
> source and desitination would not be able to create an authentic
> signature for the new content, so that the recipient could (should)
> authenticate the message for content and author (or signer, actually),
> then decide if the content is what it was when it was posted or sent,
> and that the author or signor is trustworthy.
>
> It's all very cool...
>
> Check out Applied Cryptography, by Bruce Schneier, John Wiley & Sons,
> Inc 1996, as it is pretty much THE text on this sort of thing.  There
> are many web sites as well.
>
> > Some people just have pine set up to auto-sign everything.
>
> If I recall correctly, there are cases where one shouldn't sign
> something.  If I can remember any, I'll post 'em...
>
> Hopefully, nothing changed in this message.
>
> -dh
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Re: Fetchmail and Procmail. (Fixed pine)

[Steve Witt]

On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Ender Wigin wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> BTW I fixed Pine to all those who might have the Mailbox Lock problem the
> solution is to "su -c chmod 1777 /tmp"
> 
> Now for the problem ... I have procmail installed and I configured it with
> the .forward file as the mail-filtering FAQ sugjested ... to no avail ...
> I was wondering if some nice person who has Fetchmail getting the mail and
> Procmail sorting it could please explain how they did it ... and share
> what is in there .forward file ...(It seems to me that procmail never runs
>  IE: I never see it in a top srceen ...) ...
> 
> TIA
> -Kevin.
> 

Here's my .forward file...

"|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #witt"


If you've specified a LOGFILE in your .procmailrc, then you might be able
to examine that to pick any errors that are occuring.  You might also
write a very simple filter rule at first to ensure that procmail isn't
ditching your mail somewhere unknown.

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Slow mail throughput

[Tim Thomson]

Hi,
Is this list supposed keep messages for six hours before sending them?
I sent a message at five tonight, and it has just been recieved (at 11pm).
I don't think it's the list, I'm pretty sure it's my email provider 
(usa.net). I seem to be having a few problems with connecting to them
today.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it is usa.net - I have sent lots of messages to
myself and haven't recieved any back yet - but I think it could also be
something on my local system - I ran smailtest, it worked for local mail,
but the remote has yet to reply. I have sent myself a mail to my local
address (thomson.slip.vuw.ac.nz) and it worked.

Maybe the linux counter reply is slow - I tried an hour ago, it was
supposed to send to the local address here but hasn't. When I first set up
smail I remember the reply came in about five minutes.

Does this mean that usa.net is slow? I can also access it using a web
brower, and it does the same thing - slow messages.
I have been using usa.net for about a month and haven't had any problems
yet. I think I'll mail the administrator.
I don't want to change free email servers, as people now send to this
address, plus it is the only one I found that let me use pop - I use
fetchmail to download my mail.

Thanks for any help,

Tim.

BTW, if you reply to this at usa.net, I won't recieve it for hours, If you
reply to this within about seven hours, please reply to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - I'm leaving the system logged on for awhile.

Thanks for any help,

Tim.

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Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

[Craig Sanders]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Lindsay Allen wrote:

> I hope this is the final version for a while.  The script works here on a
> freshly installed bo.
> 
> Watch out for line folding.
> 
> # sanity check that we are in the right place
> [ -f base/libc6_* ] || exit 9

9 is already used for perl_base failure. either renumber all the exit
codes or just use 100.

this check should probably be done even before the script removes the -dev
and -dbg packages.

craig


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Re: fetchmail procmail

[Florian Helbing]

Hi,

well I dont know the mail filtering FAQ and so on but if u want procmail
to process your mail:
As far as I know procmail usese a file called .procmailrc in you $HOME
for the rules. So the rules should be there not in .forward.
The .forward is just for sending the mail to procmail in case this is 
not done by the mail system.


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Re: new smail pkg (3.2.0.100-1.deb) problems

[Martin Bialasinski]

"Damir J. Naden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> BTW, my answers to smailconfig when first installing:
> 1-internet site (SMTP via TCP/IP)
> 2-visible name: inforamp.net
> 3-other visible names: none
> 4-smarthost: inforamp.net
> 5-use inforamp.net for all mail that doesn't have to be delivered
> locally
> 6-postmaster mail to dnaden
> 7-send a message to local address: yes
> 8-use inetd instead of the smtp daemon
> 

I find it easier, if you choose a name like home.net for your local net, and
change the From: header using headerrewriting in smail or a custom From:
header in your mailprogramm.

(For headerrewriting: There was a posting about this earlier this month)

Regarding your setup:

Point 3: localhost (this is necessary for fetchmail)
Point 4: I can't believe this is right. Can you "telnet inforamp.net smtp" ?
What does your ISP say to Loose95 lusers regarding smtp host. Take this one.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: IP-Masq (was Re: ms explo

[Tim Thomson]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, John Spence wrote:

> I'm wondering If I'm going to have to load any. I just succesfully ran
> WS_FTP from the pretty looking machine and I know I haven't loaded the ftp
> module.  It (ip_masq_ftp.o) isn't being loaded from anywhere that I can
> find it.

Maybe WS_FTP is configured as passive - which means that all connections
are made from your computer, instead of being initiated by the server.

Tim.

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Upgrading to unstable

[Brian Skreeg]

Upgrading to unstable used to be easy. Login, get list, choose
yer kit, install. Play. Lovely.
The current unstable tree seems impossible to me to upgrade to without
horrid dependancy stuff creeping in everywhere. My main problem seems
to be with lib6g+ (or something similar), tk4.2 (I have tk42) , tk7.6
(I have tk76) and stuff like that. Choosing just a simple thing like
"tkirc" for upgrading results in a large mangled mess of dependancy
conflicts. Anyone got any suggestions for getting started in this tree?


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Re: Upgrading to unstable

[dpk]

This reason why it is more difficult is that when upgrading from stable ->
unstable: you are upgrading from libc5 -> libc6.  Have you followed the steps
in the mini-HOWTO for this?  You can find it at:
  ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html.tar.gz

Thanks,
Dennis
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On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Brian Skreeg wrote:

> 
>   Upgrading to unstable used to be easy. Login, get list, choose
> yer kit, install. Play. Lovely.
> The current unstable tree seems impossible to me to upgrade to without
> horrid dependancy stuff creeping in everywhere. My main problem seems
> to be with lib6g+ (or something similar), tk4.2 (I have tk42) , tk7.6
> (I have tk76) and stuff like that. Choosing just a simple thing like
> "tkirc" for upgrading results in a large mangled mess of dependancy
> conflicts. Anyone got any suggestions for getting started in this tree?
> 
> 
> Ozzy,
>__ _ _
>   /  \ \ \ 
>  / / / / / |-Brian SkreegIRC:_Ozzy-|
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> 
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Re: Colors

[dpk]

You don't need color xterms for this.  You can get it to work with just
'xterm' by adding the following line to your Xdefaults/Xresources (personal
choice and opinion), which can be either your personal or global file:

xterm*customization:-color

Once I added that, 'ls --color', etc. worked fine.

Thanks,
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On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Colson E. wrote:

> I want to have colors under X. For that, I have tried to install x term color 
> of the Slackware's Distribution. But there's a problem.
> Have you an other idea, please.
> 
> By advance.
> 
> Eric.
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A cheap PCI Ethernet card that works?

[Britton]

Is there such a thing?  I have a PCI card from KTI networks, but I can't
make it work with any of the existing drivers, the tech rep thinks the
card has it's own interface (not cloning a more common card), and the
engineer who was supposedly going to get in touch with me hasn't.

Also, why does all 3com stuff cost 3x what it should?  Is this why USR
changed their name?

If SPI or some such credible organization wanted to lobby KTI to release
some information, I would love to try to write a driver.  They have an SCO
driver, it seems to me like they would want to have a linux driver as well
these days *sigh*.


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xfree86.config probles

[Chris Keathley Keathley]

While running dselect and installing x, it asks me if I want to create
a config file and I say yes. Then it shoots me into a graphics mode
which takes a long time to load and then when loaded the config
screens seem real sluggish and my computer sounds like its going to
have a hernia.  Is my computer not powerful enuff for x or am I doing
something wrong. I have a 486 w/ 4M of ram but I have created 32M of
swap space on my hard drive. Is this bad?  I think it could also maybe
be because I have my cd rom drive on the same controller as my hard
drive. Please help.





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Re: lilo

[tko]

Rainer Dorsch writes:
> 
> I wanted to install Win95 on the slave disk on my IDE system
> (/dev/hdb). To make sure, that Linux (on /dev/hda) is not damaged, I did the
> following
> 
> 1. Remove hda
> 2. Configure hdb as master
> 3. Install Win95
> 4. Insert hda again
> 5. Configured win95 disk as hdb
> 6. Boot the (linux) system
> 7. Wrote a lilo.conf file:
> 
>   boot=/dev/hda1
>   root=/dev/hda1
>   compact
>   install=/boot/boot.b
>   map=/boot/map
>   vga=normal
>   delay=20
>   image=/vmlinuz-2.0.30
> label=Linux-2.0.30
> read-only
>   image=/vmlinuz
> label=Linux
> read-only
>   other=/dev/hdb1
> label = Win95  
> loader=/boot/any_d.b  Try removing this line and re-run LILO
> table=/dev/hdb
> alias=1
> 
> 8. run lilo


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compiling a kernel

[Nils Sandmann]

Hi,

first of all I'd like to thank all of you for helping me finding out
what didn't work with my linux installation. (The installation couldn't
find my harddisk because it uses tha MCA bus architecture). You've
helped me very much!

But I still have a problem: There are patches for MCA in the internet,
but I can't use them because I've got no linux system to compile them.
I'm using an old IBM PS/2 55 SX with 8 megs of ram and I'm trying to
install debian 1.3 with the kernel version 2.0.29 . Could someone please
compile a kernel for my system with the MCA patch? I would be very, very
thankful for that!


*MANY* thanks in advance!!

Nils Sandmann


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Burning a CD

[Stephen Carpenter]

As I mentioned previously...im a convert to debian linux.
My next step is to start using it at home.
I am no where at work...and looking for some info
gettin gdebian isn't a problem here... we have T-1's and T-3s up the
ass.
In fact I installed on my 486 via FTP in a coupla hours.
anyway...I found out I have a CD burner at my disposal...all I have to
do is get a Writeable CD and burn away.
I am thinkin gof burning myself a CD or two (or 3 or 4...)
I definitly want one (or if its 2 CDs full) enough of the debian dist to

install th elatest version and alot of packages (tho as many source
packages as possible and all)
here is the problem: The burner is using
"Easy CD Pro" software. If you think that doesn't sound like linux
software...your right.
If you think it sounds like a Windblows95 program..right again.
anyway...I was advised to use 8.3 filename format cuz "Windows95 doesn't
like iso9660
rock ridge extensions"
does anyone know of this software?
is there any way I can make a useable CD to install directly from?
I would like to not sacrafice long filenames for 8.3 but if I HAVE too I
will.
will that break anything? is there a way around it?
(obviously ill be grabbing the distribution off of FTP..all th elatest
stable
stuff)
any suggestions or comments before I start woul dbe apreciated
(hopefully I can get it burned by the end of today...or sometime next
week)
(I also have a few other CDs id like to burn...and make up some personal

CD archivesbut im holding off on those..like a CD containing ever
version of the kernel as far back as I can get it to as recent as I can
get it...with patches..including development kernelsI think it woul
dmake a nice one to keep..if for nothing else just to have a CD of them)

-Steve


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Re: Yet Another libc5->libc6 question..

[Neilen Marais]

>kernel-source package that libc6-dev depends on is going to be
>available
>this week, or alternatively, can I *safely* force the libc6-dev to
>install with 2.0.32_2.0.32-1 kernel source?
Yeah, sure, just make sure /usr/include/linux is a symlink pointing to
/usr/src/linux/include/linux, and that /usr/include/asm is a symlink
pointing to /usr/src/linux/include/asm.

Just had to do the very same thing... 

But IMHO its silly keeping seperate headers... Why not just leave the
links to /usr/src/linux/include?  /usr/src/linux is anyway the standard
location for the kernel, and it makes sense to always use your current
kernel's headers...

But I digress, that seems to be a debian policy that other ppl seem to
like...

Cheers
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Re: Yet Another libc5->libc6 question..

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 02:13:41AM +0200, Neilen Marais wrote:
> But IMHO its silly keeping seperate headers... Why not just leave the
> links to /usr/src/linux/include?  /usr/src/linux is anyway the standard
> location for the kernel, and it makes sense to always use your current
> kernel's headers...

No it doesn't; read /usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.Debian.gz.

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exec of /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_NONE failed

[Irmund Thum]

What is wrong wih my debian configuration since I get the error: 
 exec of /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_NONE failed 
when I try startx? 
XF86Setup works well but wants to write to /etc/X11/XF86Config
and copying (not moving) the XF86Config from /etc to /usr/X11R6/bin/
doesn't help. 
I'm stuck at this point and would appreciate any help. 
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questions about pppd (fwd)

[Pete Templin]

(A forwarded message, due to mailer problems...)
--> please forward this to the mailing list for me, thanks Fuz


we have gotten the pppd daemon to start correctly using pon and poff
scripts but we note that now that we ppp support compiled in verses in
modules the ppp.o module always tries to load itself and fail.

I sent mail from my slackware box to the debian box, (they are both
connected to different ISPs and event tho owl.asarian.org is in my
domain, its got ISP2's IP address.  owl does have a static connection
and is correctly defined in my name server and my ISP2's in-addr.arpa
domain for IP address. so there is something to transfer.

this shows that CSLIP is being called even tho I intentionally left it
and SLIP out of the kernel gen. unless the make config that make-dpkg
does changes the options from what I selected in make config myself.
BTW is there a way to get makedpkg NOT to do a second make config
after I've done one with the option I want? 

it then attempts load ppp.o module which should not match the new gen.
then it figures out the ppp code is compiled in and uses it ;)? I'd
prefer it not bother loading an out of date set of modules, then
figuring out the PPP code was already compiled in and using it,
I think it should look for the code in the kernel 1st. 

the connection goes normally, email sent from onbe ISP to the other
arrives as expected. when I went to disconnect it reported 

Jan  8 16:34:51 owl pppd[209]: disconnect script failed

obviously it successfully disconnected and the modems light went out. 
what did I do wrong??

console excerpt follows...  thanks in advance for any thoughts. 

oh BTW I did commented out ALL the modules in /etc/modules as all the
things I need are compiled into the kernel except for sound support
and thats handled by OSS's soundon command.

we can telnet into the box when its connected. 

we always get this line too... 
Jan  8 16:33:06 owl pppd[209]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP

we would like to be able to setup the 10base2 connection between the
boxes so we can have the debian box do the serving for the slackware
box, until we can get it upgraded.  since we are unsure how long it
will be before we actually get the promised /29 subnet, we figured we
could do IP-MASQ on the slackware box so clients using our servers
would 'think' the servers were on the slackware box and it IP-forward
to the debian box. both systems (slackware 3.0/kernel 1.2.13(with MASQ
patch) and debian 1.3.1/kernel 2.0.29) recognise the NE2k clones
during bootup properly.


Fuzzy
Sys Admin, ASARian.org


Jan  8 15:34:40 owl login[185]: ROOT LOGIN on `tty3' 
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the 
University of California 
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl insmod: /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol 
kill_fasync_Rf99c4230
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl insmod: /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol 
register_netdev_R24876de2
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl insmod: /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol 
netif_rx_R578c179c
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl insmod: /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol 
dev_kfree_skb_R44b132be
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl insmod: /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol 
tty_register_ldisc_Rbc2419d2
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl insmod: /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol 
n_tty_ioctl_Ra07e8b74
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl insmod: /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol 
dev_alloc_skb_R8587f622
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl insmod: /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol 
unregister_netdev_Rc260075b
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl insmod: /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/ppp.o: unresolved symbol 
dev_close_R391db8f6
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl kernel: registered device ppp0 
Jan  8 16:32:42 owl pppd[209]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: abort on (NO CARRIER) 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: abort on (BUSY) 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: abort on (VOICE) 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: abort on (ERROR) 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE) 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: abort on (NO ANSWER) 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: send (ATZ^M) 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: expect (OK) 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: ATZ^M^M 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: OK -- got it 
Jan  8 16:32:43 owl chat[210]: send (ATE1M1V1X4\&A3L3S0=0&D2&C1Q0^M) 
Jan  8 16:32:44 owl chat[210]: expect (OK) 
Jan  8 16:32:44 owl chat[210]: ^M 
Jan  8 16:32:44 owl chat[210]: ATE1M1V1X4&A3L3S0=0&D2&C1Q0^M^M 
Jan  8 16:32:44 owl chat[210]: OK -- got it 
Jan  8 16:32:44 owl chat[210]: send (ATM1DT4061544^M) 
Jan  8 16:32:44 owl chat[210]: expect (CONNECT) 
Jan  8 16:32:44 owl chat[210]: ^M 
Jan  8 16:33:02 owl chat[210]: ATM1DT4061544^M^M 
Jan  8 16:33:02 owl chat[210]: CONNECT -- got it 
Jan  8 16:33:02 owl chat

Re: exec of /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_NONE failed

[Heikki Vatiainen]

If you have your XF86Config set up ok, please check /etc/X11/Xserver. Read 
the comments in that file and replace XF86_NONE with your correct X server. 
For example I use XF86_SVGA since I have a Matrox card.

The correct location of XF86Config is /etc/X11/XF86Config. Any other 
reference to it should be a symlink if I understand correctly.

I hope this helps :)

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Re: xfree86.config probles

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> While running dselect and installing x, it asks me if I want to create
> a config file and I say yes. Then it shoots me into a graphics mode
> which takes a long time to load and then when loaded the config
> screens seem real sluggish and my computer sounds like its going to
> have a hernia.  Is my computer not powerful enuff for x or am I doing
> something wrong. I have a 486 w/ 4M of ram but I have created 32M of
> swap space on my hard drive. Is this bad?  I think it could also maybe
> be because I have my cd rom drive on the same controller as my hard
> drive. Please help.

It is not a bearable option to run X-windows with 4MB ram.  It might
work, but will be way too slow.  If you could add another 4MB to get 8MB
it would work fine if you take care not to run big memory eating apps.
There is nothing inherently bad about using 32 MB of swap with your
configuration, except perhaps that you have to exercise a superhuman
level of patience if it is necessary to run X.

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Re: compiling gnome-0.11?

[Brian K Servis]

Brian K Servis writes:
>
>
>Hello gnomers,
>
>I am trying to compile gnome-0.11 and am running into trouble.  This
>is the last error messages and text from the compile.
>
>/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2  -o gnome-score-helper  
>gnome-score-helper.o ../libgnome/libgnome.la -lgdk -lglib -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
>-lX11  -lXext -lSM -lICE 
>gcc -g -O2 -o _libs/gnome-score-helper gnome-score-helper.o -Wl,-rpath 
>-Wl,/usr/local/lib ../libgnome/_libs/libgnome.so -lgdk -lglib -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
>-lX11 -lXext -lSM -lICE
>../libgnome/_libs/libgnome.so: undefined reference to `bindtextdomain'
>

Well I appear to have fixed this with --with-gnu-gettext as an argument
to ./configure.

Now I am getting this error:

/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2  -o htmltest  test.o 
../gtk-xmhtml/libgtkxmhtml.la -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lm -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11  
-lXext -lSM -lICE -lz -ljpeg   
gcc -g -O2 -o _libs/htmltest test.o -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib 
../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lm -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
-lX11 -lXext -lSM -lICE -lz -ljpeg
../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to 
`XpmCreateXpmImageFromBuffer'
../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to `XpmFreeXpmInfo'
../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to `XpmGetErrorString'
../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to 
`XpmCreateXpmImageFromData'
../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to `XpmFreeXpmImage'
make[2]: *** [htmltest] Error 1


I have gettext, guile, gtk, slib, xlockmore, libXpm, libjpeg, libpng,
zlib all installed either with deb packages or under /usr/local as
required by the README for gnome.  ldconfig -v shows libXpm in it's list
and I have run ldconfig after I installed each of the above packages.
What am I missing?  I am really interested in checking out gnome.
Thanks for any help or pointers.

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[Q] How to install everything libc6

[Vladislav Papayan x285]

Hello,
On December 19 I downloaded (to a CD) everything in Hamm/binary-i386
And created the floppy disks later on (from the same place).
When I installed the base installation it put binaries compiled
with libc5.  When I was prompted with DSELECT screen I select an option
to update the existing packages with the versions available on CD.
DSelect gave me a buch of errors (regarding libc6 that it conflicts with
libc5).
I then went to a command prompt and did 'dpkg -i --force-conflicts
libc6XXX.deb'
That worked but then when I went to DSELECT and tried to isntall other
packages --
I got a bunch of problems with libdb1, and so on.

Is there a simple way to make a fresh installation of Debian 
where everything (what is available) is libc6.


Thanks in advance,
Vladislav


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Re: PPP not finsihing connection for Earthlink

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

To quote from the pppd man page:

   lcp-echo-failure 
  If this option is given, pppd will presume the peer
  to be dead if n LCP echo-requests are sent  without
  receiving a valid LCP echo-reply.  If this happens,
  pppd will terminate the connection.   Use  of  this
  option  requires a non-zero value for the lcp-echo-
  interval parameter.  This option  can  be  used  to
  enable pppd to terminate after the physical connec­
  tion has been broken (e.g., the modem has hung  up)
  in situations where no hardware modem control lines
  are available.

ie. remove this option from your /etc/ppp/options file and this problem will
go away.

Fabio Olive Leite wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>
> Hi there,
>
> > However, I get the LCP problem where they are being sent but not
> > received.  I put LCP-MAX-CONFIGURE 30 in my options file and have
> > upped it all the way to 150, but I still don't get any LCP's received.
> >  Finally after 30 - 60 seconds the modem simply hangs up...
>
> I've seen this on a local ISP, apparently their router doesn't care about
> responding to echo requests, and it looks like pppd doesn't like it. I've
> read every man pages and HOWTOs about it, but did not find a way to tell
> pppd not to care about echo requests...
>
> It seems all we can do is switch ISPs in this case. I hope someone can
> prove me wrong on this and tell us how can it be done!

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Re: PPP not finsihing connection for Earthlink

[Bill Vinson]

This problem existed before that line was entered...

The PPP Howto seemed to mention this might fix it.  However all it
seems to do is prolong how long I will wait for the return LCP echo. 
However, it never comes.  I have tried this with both Earthlink and
IBM.net and it happens with both of them.  IBM actually had Linux PPP
scripts on its site and I used those instead of my typical ppp-chat,
ppp-connect scripts.  Someone mentioned earlier that the routers at
the ISP might not return echos and this may be unavoidable, but I have
a difficult time believing that this same thing is happening at two
National ISPs.

I have a feeling this is the cause of my modem.  It is a cheap
internal 33.6 modem that I bought from MicroTime, Inc.  I couldn't
find a MFG name for it but it uses Cirrus Logic chips.  It is a PnP
modem, but can be set up by changing jumpers to be a standard modem. 
(I have yet to try this).  The manual (small as it is) mentions AT
commands, but never mentions a preferred initialization string.  I
believe it to be Hayes compatible but I think the current settings are
causing communication between Linux and the ISP to be difficult.  It
works fine under Win95 and WinNT.   So, I am somewhat baffled.  I
appreciate your help and hope maybe someone can help me find a
solution to this...

Thanks, Bill





---"Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> To quote from the pppd man page:
> 
>lcp-echo-failure 
>   If this option is given, pppd will presume the peer
>   to be dead if n LCP echo-requests are sent  without
>   receiving a valid LCP echo-reply.  If this happens,
>   pppd will terminate the connection.   Use  of  this
>   option  requires a non-zero value for the lcp-echo-
>   interval parameter.  This option  can  be  used  to
>   enable pppd to terminate after the physical connec­
>   tion has been broken (e.g., the modem has hung  up)
>   in situations where no hardware modem control lines
>   are available.
> 
> ie. remove this option from your /etc/ppp/options file and this
problem will
> go away.
> 
> Fabio Olive Leite wrote:
> 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > > However, I get the LCP problem where they are being sent but not
> > > received.  I put LCP-MAX-CONFIGURE 30 in my options file and have
> > > upped it all the way to 150, but I still don't get any LCP's
received.
> > >  Finally after 30 - 60 seconds the modem simply hangs up...
> >
> > I've seen this on a local ISP, apparently their router doesn't
care about
> > responding to echo requests, and it looks like pppd doesn't like
it. I've
> > read every man pages and HOWTOs about it, but did not find a way
to tell
> > pppd not to care about echo requests...
> >
> > It seems all we can do is switch ISPs in this case. I hope someone
can
> > prove me wrong on this and tell us how can it be done!
> 
> --
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> 
> 
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Re: [Q] How to install everything libc6

[Brandon Mitchell]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Vladislav Papayan x285 wrote:

> When I installed the base installation it put binaries compiled
> with libc5.  

Bruce is still working on the libc6 boot/base disks.  I'm hoping they will
be out sometime next week.  The ones in hamm are probably copies of the
current stable disk.

> Is there a simple way to make a fresh installation of Debian 
> where everything (what is available) is libc6.

Nope, you'll have to follow the HOWTO so you don't break your system
(break as in can't login, maybe not even boot).  Scott posts the howto
peroidically, and the url (which I don't have on me) is posted even more
often.  hmm... from memory: http://www.gate.net/~storm

HTH,
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mgetty-voice with USR Sportster 56K

[Dave Burnett]

Greetings,

I have been trying to install mgetty-sendfax with voice extensions on a
PC with a USR Sportster 56K voice/fax modem.  The machine has the Debian
1.3.1 release installed and I have installed the mgetty 1.1.8-1 packages
from bo.
With the lack of documentation for mgetty-voice, the task of getting
all of the modem's features to work has been daunting, to say the
least.  Either mgetty is loaded at boot from /etc/inittab and fax and
data connects are available, or vgetty is installed the same way and
only voice mail capability is enabled.
Could anyone give me some hints as to how to get this modem to do
voice/fax/data with these packages?

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: compiling gnome-0.11?

[Heikki Vatiainen]

I have not compiled Gnome myself but your Makefile seems to lack -lXpm even 
though it's needed.

Brian K Servis writes:

[cut]
> Now I am getting this error:
> 
> /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2  -o htmltest  test.o
> ../gtk-xmhtml/libgtkxmhtml.la -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lm -L/usr/X11R6/lib
> -lX11  -lXext -lSM -lICE -lz -ljpeg   
> gcc -g -O2 -o _libs/htmltest test.o -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib
> ../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lm
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXext -lSM -lICE -lz -ljpeg
  
It looks like there are references to the Xpm library but you do not have 
-lXpm among the libraries to use. Try fixing the Makefile and adding -lXpm 
after -ljpeg. Also, if the Xpm library is in /usr/local/lib you need 
-L/usr/local/lib before -lXpm. You probably knew it but I sometimes manage to 
forget
the -L flag :)

> ../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to
> `XpmCreateXpmImageFromBuffer'
> ../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to
> `XpmFreeXpmInfo'
> ../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to
> `XpmGetErrorString'
> ../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to
> `XpmCreateXpmImageFromData'
> ../gtk-xmhtml/_libs/libgtkxmhtml.so: undefined reference to
> `XpmFreeXpmImage'
> make[2]: *** [htmltest] Error 1
> 
> 
> I have gettext, guile, gtk, slib, xlockmore, libXpm, libjpeg, libpng,
> zlib all installed either with deb packages or under /usr/local as
> required by the README for gnome.  ldconfig -v shows libXpm in it's list
> and I have run ldconfig after I installed each of the above packages.
> What am I missing?  I am really interested in checking out gnome.
> Thanks for any help or pointers.

// Heikki
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bug in new smail?

[Richard E. Hawkins Esq.]

I upgraded to the new smail, and got the message "unexpected end of attribute 
in /etc/smail/config" when sending messages.  This completely eliminated the 
ability to send or receive messages.  I downgraded to the stable version, 
force-reconfigured, and have things running again.

Has anyone else seen this?  here is the offending config file:

# This is the main Smail configuration file.
# Debian Config Version 2
# It was originally generated by `smailconfig', part of the Smail package
# distributed with Debian, but it may edited by the mail system administrator.
# It was originally generated by smailconfig at Fri Jan  9 10:48:21 CST 1998
# Please modify the above line, if you change this file by hand.
# See smail-config (5) for details of the things that can be configured here.


visible_name=eyry.econ.iastate.edu
more_hostnames=localhost
-domains
hostnames=eyry.econ.iastate.edu

max_load_ave=5
smtp_accept_max=20
smtp_accept_queue=10
rfc1413_query_timeout=15

require_configs
-second_config_file
-qualify_file
-retry_file
copying_file=/usr/doc/smail/copyright
max_message_size=10M


#   --Begin---
# in this version new!!
# READ the CHANGES ... and man-pages
# You really should know what you do here!
#smtp_remote_allow=localnet
#disable this feature
-smtp_remote_allow

#WARNING:  You will have to add a correct local definition for
#smtp_remote_allow if you have many local networks, or unset it
#if you wish to disable this feature.
#WARNING:  The current implementation of this feature blocks
#relay from incoming SMTP to *any* outgoing transport.  This
#means that even UUCP gateways require explicit permission if
#this feature is enabled.  It is hoped that finer tuning will be
#possible in the next beta release. 

-smtp_hello_verify
#   This flag tells smail to verify the hostnames given in
#   HELO or EHLO SMTP commands.
-smtp_hello_verify_literal
#   A colon-separated list of host IP patterns that are
#   allowed to deliver mail even though they have broken
#   DNS or give incorrect or invalid HELO or EHLO SMTP
#   greetings.
-smtp_hello_broken_allow
#
# take a look at the man page, esp. smail-config.
#   --END-

received_field="Received: ${if def:sender_host\
 {from $sender_host${if def:sender_host_addr\
 { (really [$sender_host_addr])}} }\
  else {${if def:sender_host_addr\
  {from [$sender_host_addr] \
 by $visible_name\n\t\
 ${if def:sender_program\
  {via $sender_program }}\
 ${if def:sender_proto\
  {with $sender_proto}\
  else {with stdio}}\
 ${if def:ident_sender\
  { (ident $ident_sender using $ident_method)}}\n\t\
 id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Debian Smail$version)\n\t\
 ${if def:input_addr\
  {for ${top:input_addr}}\
  else {for }}\
 ; $spool_date
"

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Re: bug in new smail?

[Pure Energy]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:

> I upgraded to the new smail, and got the message "unexpected end of attribute 
> in /etc/smail/config" when sending messages.  This completely eliminated the 


>  { (really [$sender_host_addr])}} }\
>   else {${if def:sender_host_addr\
>   {from [$sender_host_addr] \
>  by $visible_name\n\t\
>  ${if def:sender_program\
>   {via $sender_program }}\
>  ${if def:sender_proto\
>   {with $sender_proto}\
>   else {with stdio}}\
>  ${if def:ident_sender\
>   { (ident $ident_sender using $ident_method)}}\n\t\
>  id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Debian Smail$version)\n\t\
>  ${if def:input_addr\
>   {for ${top:input_addr}}\
>   else {for }}\

-- This is your problem i believe.. the " is in the wrong place

>  ; $spool_date
> "

Replace this with ---; $spool_date"  --- I believe this
will help.

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Debian 2.0?

[Mike Garfias]

Any idea when 2.0 will be out?  I'm tempted to start playing with the unstable
release, but was hoping to avoid that.  I'm just sick of having to download and
compile all the packages that available for glibc (which I don't have).

Mike


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Re: Upgrade to libc6...

[Michael \[badpixel/bad sector\]]

Hi!

> > Just wondering how to uprade to libc6? Do I just install the libc6 package,
> > or do I have to reinstall my hole system? ...
> 
> http://www.debian.org/devel/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

Ok ... but I just have a little problem (i think!) :)

the libc6 package conflicts with libc5,and when i tries to remove 
libc5 a lot of programs depends on that...
 


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Re: Upgrade to libc6...

[Nathan E Norman]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Michael [badpixel/bad sector] wrote:

: Hi!
: 
: > > Just wondering how to uprade to libc6? Do I just install the libc6 
package,
: > > or do I have to reinstall my hole system? ...
: > 
: > http://www.debian.org/devel/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
: 
: Ok ... but I just have a little problem (i think!) :)
: 
: the libc6 package conflicts with libc5,and when i tries to remove 
: libc5 a lot of programs depends on that...
:  

Read the last paragraph of Scott Ellis's FAQ (section 4.6).  The URL is
cleverly hidden in this email message.

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Re: multiple fs types for user floppy access?

[Douglas Bates]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I currently have my floppy set up so that users can mount ms floppies with 
> the 
> line
> 
> /dev/fd0/floppy msdos   user,rw 0   0
> 
> in /etc/fstab
> 
> I tried changing "msdos" to "auto", but no dice.  Is there a change so that 
> it 
> can automount both msdos and ext2 disks?

Try the fdmount program from fdutils package.  It autodetects the file 
systems and mounts up the disk for you.  The fdumount program undoes this.

> rick, who also wonders why linux and 10 year old mac's can read/write msdos 
> disks faster than windows

Floppy drives are inherently slow.  At least Linux doesn't suspend all 
other programs on the system while writing to the floppy device.


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Re: Upgrade to libc6...

[Scott Ellis]

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Michael [badpixel/bad sector] wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> > > Just wondering how to uprade to libc6? Do I just install the libc6 
> > > package,
> > > or do I have to reinstall my hole system? ...
> > 
> > http://www.debian.org/devel/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
> 
> Ok ... but I just have a little problem (i think!) :)
> 
> the libc6 package conflicts with libc5,and when i tries to remove 
> libc5 a lot of programs depends on that...

Addendum, you now need to install both libc5 and libc6 FROM HAMM on the
same dpkg -i line.  This may (read probably will) require removing a whole
load of -dev packages, including libc5-dev (if you use dselect to
uninstall libc5-dev, it should catch the rest of them in conflict
resolution).  I'll also be happy to mail you a copy of a script that is
being developed to do the core upgrade, but it will probably require
access to a mountable hamm mirror (assuming I don't manage to build the
fix kit by the time you read this).

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Re: Fetchmail and Procmail. (Fixed pine)

[Jeremy Worley]

Ender> Now for the problem ... I have procmail installed and I
Ender> configured it with the .forward file as the mail-filtering
Ender> FAQ sugjested ... to no avail ...  I was wondering if some
Ender> nice person who has Fetchmail getting the mail and Procmail
Ender> sorting it could please explain how they did it ... and
Ender> share what is in there .forward file ...(It seems to me
Ender> that procmail never runs . IE: I never see it in a top
Ender> srceen ...) ...

Hi,

Here's what I did.  Don't put anything into your .forward.  Set up 
your .fetchmailrc to look something like this (omit dashed lines):

--- .fetchmailrc ---
#
poll zen.alb.khoral.com  
   protocol pop3 
   user jworley
   mda "/usr/local/bin/procmail -f-"
   pass 
--- .fetchmailrc end ---


Set up your .procmailrc as you normally would...

Good luck!

-jer

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Re: lp/ppa configuration; how to set to use printer?

[Adrian Bridgett]

On Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 01:26:17PM -0600, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
> I have a Zip drive on lp0, and at boot time it is recognized (een if no
> disk inserted), and then I cannot use lp0 to print.
> 
> The lsmod reports ls module loaded, no ppa module reported.
> 
> How can I disable ppa, and print?

Two answers:

a) try the new 2.1 kernels which apparently fix this

b) compile ppa and ls as modules and then make sure only one is installed at
any time. Use "insmod" and "rmmod" (as root) to do this.

PS: Two copies of your .sig were included.

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APPEND

[Kaoru Sato]

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inconsistency between server and config file?

[Alan Su]

All this talk about setting up the X server got me wondering.  So, I
checked it out, and it seems that there's some kind of inconsistency
on my machine:

:>11:31 [1] alsu (alsu):/home/alsu -> ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/X
:>lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   26 Nov 11 23:31 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -> 
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_Mach64*
:>11:31 [2] alsu (alsu):/home/alsu -> cat /etc/X11/Xserver
:>/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA
:>Console
:>
:>The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server.
:>The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server:
:>RootOnly
:>Console  (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console)
:>Anybody
:>

'ps' shows that X (and therefore, XF86_Mach64) is running.  So, what
is it that the /etc/X11/Xserver file does?  Thanks!

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install image too large for floppy

[Eric White]

I'd like to install from floppies, but some of the disk images are larger than 
1.44 mb. Resc1440.bin and drv1440.bin both copy to my hd at 1,474,560 bytes.  
Formatting a HD floppy give me 1,457,663 bytes available.

Any help?

Thanks

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Re: install image too large for floppy

[Tim Sailer]

Eric White wrote:
> 
> I'd like to install from floppies, but some of the disk images are larger 
> than 1.44 mb. Resc1440.bin and drv1440.bin both copy to my hd at 1,474,560 
> bytes.  Formatting a HD floppy give me 1,457,663 bytes available.
> 
> Any help?

Sure.. use the 'rawrite' program or dd (if you have linux or unix).

Tim

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FW: [Q] How to install everything libc6

[Vladislav Papayan x285]

I am sorry, I am forwading the mail again, but I had a problem
with my mail that all the messages that were not directed to
debian-alpha
were deleted.   So if there were any answeres to my question -- I did
not
see them.

>--
>From:  Vladislav Papayan  x285
>Sent:  Friday, January 09, 1998 10:27 AM
>To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject:   [Q] How to install everything libc6
>
>Hello,
>On December 19 I downloaded (to a CD) everything in Hamm/binary-i386
>And created the floppy disks later on (from the same place).
>When I installed the base installation it put binaries compiled
>with libc5.  When I was prompted with DSELECT screen I select an option
>to update the existing packages with the versions available on CD.
>DSelect gave me a buch of errors (regarding libc6 that it conflicts
>with libc5).
>I then went to a command prompt and did 'dpkg -i --force-conflicts
>libc6XXX.deb'
>That worked but then when I went to DSELECT and tried to isntall other
>packages --
>I got a bunch of problems with libdb1, and so on.
>
>Is there a simple way to make a fresh installation of Debian 
>where everything (what is available) is libc6.
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Vladislav
>


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LILO stopped working

[Bruce Jackson]

I normally leave my computer on all the time.  Just the other day I
rebooted and LILO would not work.  It prints LI on the screen and then
freezes.  I have not rebooted my computer in a few weeks and much has
changed.  I am running 2.0.33 with LILO 20-0.1.  I have tried running
LILO off of a floppy and that does not work.  The drive is a Quantum
SCSI disk of 3.2 gb with a 2.0 gb linux partition at the beginning.  Any
one have any ideas?

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Re: install image too large for floppy

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Yes, this is because these are disk "images", not files to be written to an 
already formatted
disk. The formatting itself consumes disk space. You can't "copy" these files 
to the disk.
You must use rawwrite (or some equivalent program). 1,474,560 is indeed the raw
capacity of a 1.44mb floppy.

Eric White wrote:

> I'd like to install from floppies, but some of the disk images are larger 
> than 1.44 mb. Resc1440.bin and drv1440.bin both copy to my hd at 1,474,560 
> bytes.  Formatting a HD floppy give me 1,457,663 bytes available.
>
> Any help?
>
> Thanks
>
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Good Linux books??

[Rick]

Hi,

I am looking for some good books, that introduce linux and provide a good
reference for the begginer, but will still be a usefull reference later on.

I am unsure about the 'xxx for dummies' books, as i have recently found at
my cost, they assume you really are dumb and the first half focuses more on
background history, basic concept of whatever the book is about, and
useless information, while the second half explanes only a few of the
really basic concepts, taking 200+ pages to do it. (i am refering to Java
for dummies, but the other books in this range i have looked at seem
similar).

I am looking for a book that lets you 'get dirty' right from page 1, and by
the finish makes you feel like you've actually learnt something you hadn't
figured out for yourself.

Thanks
Rick

PS, I recently recived a spam mail (nothing unusual abou that!) but the
signature text at the end was the same as the debian lists. Is this group
moderated?, and if not, why not!

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help w/ lilo 20

[Shaleh]

How do I make lilo use a chain loader to boot windows on hdc.

hda == linux
hdb == cdrom
hdc == win95

boots to linux, in lilo 19 i could tpye win95 at the lilo prompt and
boot winders.  But I do not understand how to set v20 up.  Thanks for
the help.


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Re: Fetchmail and Procmail. (Fixed pine)

[Jaakko]

>> Hi,
>> 
>> BTW I fixed Pine to all those who might have the Mailbox Lock problem the
>> solution is to "su -c chmod 1777 /tmp"
>> 
>> Now for the problem ... I have procmail installed and I configured it with
>> the .forward file as the mail-filtering FAQ sugjested ... to no avail ...
>> I was wondering if some nice person who has Fetchmail getting the mail and
>> Procmail sorting it could please explain how they did it ... and share
>> what is in there .forward file ...(It seems to me that procmail never runs
>> ... IE: I never see it in a top srceen ...) ...

 Hi!

 You might want Fetchmail to push all the mail straight to procmail, and all 
 you have to do is to add a line in your .fetchmailrc :

 mda "formail -s procmail"

 simply: use procmail as mda. 

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Re: Hamm upgrade troubles. Help!

[Jaakko]

>> 
>> My system is now unusable.  Before the holidays, I performed the
>> steps in the libc5 to libc6 mini-HOWTO successfully.  Today, I
>> decided to try to use dselect to upgrade to hamm.  dselect dowloaded
>> 60+MB from the mirror I pointed to (ftp.cdrom.com).  I went through
>> a couple of passes of "Install" and then tried "Config" once.
>> This went through and eventually config'ed xbase.  This restarted
>> my xdm server.  The problem is that my video card (at times) can
>> only start X once.  Further attempts to start X lock the machine up
>> tight (which is why I moved to xdm in the first place).  This was one
>> of those times, and the machine locked up (that is not the problem).  The 
>> only solution that I have found to this is to press "reset".  I did
>> this and then the real probelms started...
>> 
>> The boot started correctly, but then got to this point:
>> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly
>> INIT: version 2.73 booting
>> INIT: Cannot execute "/etc/init.d/boot"
>> INIT: Entering runlevel: 2
>> Starting system log daemon: syslogdstart-stop-daemon: nothing in /proc - 
>> not mounted?
>> 
>> I get many of the "start-stop-daemon" errors.
>> 
>> Later it says:
>> while opening UTMP file: No such file or directory.
>> 
>> I also get many of these errors.
>> 
>> If I try to log in as root, I get (using the correct password):
>> Unable to change tty /dev/tty1: Bad file descriptor
>> 
>> I have no idea how to correct these problems.  I have had this system 
>> going since early Debian 1.1 days and I am stumped.  What do I need to do?

Hi!

 I had a strange problem couple a weeks a go, that looked similar: /proc or 
swap partitions
 would not get mounted, if they were last lines in fstab ... same with 
.fechmailrc and procmail. 
 I simply moved the lines on top of the list and everything worked. Really 
strange!

 This was straight after an upgrade.

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Supported New Technology

[James Scheiderich]

Hi,
I have Debian Linux 1.3.1 that cam,e from the Boot disc. I have 
recently got 
a Micron Xku PII-266. I have looked over the LINUX compatibility site and was 
wondering when & if there may be support for:

Yamaha  OPL3-SAx Sound card. It is on the mother board
ATAPI Pioneer CD-ROM DR-A01S 24x max
Diamond Viper v330 AGP
Microsoft Intellipoint Mouse

If you have any insight. Id gladly appericate it. I assume that i probably 
will have to await the next version of Debian thou...Thanx for the help.

Dave


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mke2fs

[Nils Sandmann]

Hi,

I've got a IBM PS/2 and tere were some problems with the harddik. I got
round this by creating the partions by hand. But I've got a problem: If
have to use mke2fs to install a file system and I know what to write for
parameters. (I'm a very unexperienced user)

Thanks,

Nils Sandmann

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