Re: pngcrush and bugs 331068, 338659, 355693, 352177, 330026
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: The 4 programs are similar, but different. They are small too. If there is no chance to unify these algorithms in one single program using different options (which would IMHO make perfectly sense) I would think about collecting the "needed" upstream programs in one single Debian package and fake a single program by a wrapper. I guess this would work if we notice that each upstream is not that active that releasing one single upstream triggers many package updates. What do you think about this? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pngcrush and bugs 331068, 338659, 355693, 352177, 330026
Hi! On 3/24/06, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > > > The 4 programs are similar, but different. They are small too. > > If there is no chance to unify these algorithms in one single > program using different options (which would IMHO make perfectly > sense) I would think about collecting the "needed" upstream > programs in one single Debian package and fake a single program > by a wrapper. I guess this would work if we notice that each > upstream is not that active that releasing one single upstream > triggers many package updates. > > What do you think about this? pngnq and pngquant are very stable. pngquant is from April 2002 and pngnq from September 2004. There is no new version because their upstream author said to me that their programs work and they didn't receive any bug reports. But they are still active projects. If there is a bug, they will fix. I think that with pngnq and pngquant we won't have problem, since they will release a new version only if there is a problem with the program. Merging pngnq and pngquant, on a single package, won't be a problem. It's possible to have a wrapper and select automatically the program that the user wants to use. Something like "pngfoo -newquant image.png" will call pngnq "pngfoo -quant image.png" will call pngquant They also share some source code, because one is based on the other. optipng and pngcrush are more active. They release versions not just if they found a bug, but they keep implementing new things. optipng, for example, is going to have a new release soon. The problem is that I think that it will be difficult to merge the 4 optimizers on one source code. Merging them on one source package is easy. But I don't see too much advantage on this. The user will have a "pngoptimizer" program that will be a wrapper to all the 4, if merging the 4 program won't be possible? If we merge they, the user will use more space (well, today space is generally not important). If we fix just a line of code on one program, the user will need to download a bigger package to fix this. But one think that I see that is good is that we will have team maintenance, right? I still don't see good reasons to merge the 4 programs :-/ All the best, Nelson
Re: help
John Morgan wrote: Hello... I am interested in volunteering some time to help out with debian. I don't have much expirence so to speak in programming or anything but I am a quick learner and have some time to give. I was a system administrator on a linux network a few years ago. I have a working knowledge of c++ and some expirence with perl a few years ago. I have just returned from Iraq and am injured with time to spare and I have always prefered debian over any other distro. I'm even willing to help with man pages or something. Just let me know if you have any use for me. Thanks, John You mentioned about your experience with C++. May I suggest debtags? More info can be found at http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/ There are many many projects which can use your skills. I am just providing a specific example to give you a headstart. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pngcrush and bugs 331068, 338659, 355693, 352177, 330026
Hello, On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > I guess this would work if we notice that each > upstream is not that active that releasing one single upstream > triggers many package updates. The package that I have recently prepared of pngcrush is based on version 1.6.2 which was released in Jan-Feb 2006 in response to the RC bugs that exist against pngcrush in Debian's BTS. Also as far as I know optipng has been recently fixed up in order to comply with Debian's security requirements so that the package could enter the archive. So I don't think we can take these packages to be inactive. On the other hand it is true that all the authors are active members of the png-mng-implement group of people. So someone could try to mail them to see if they feel that this unification is worthwhile. Regards, Kapil. -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
