Re: MIA maintainer and NMU of package

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

On 01 Feb 2002 16:20:01 +0900
Alex Shinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Silly Gnus, tucked away the mail into my debian.qa folder and deleted
> the CC duplicate.  Sorry, just now reading this.
Hello Alex,

happy to see you're alive ;)... if your time is really limited and
you cannot/doesn't want to work for Debian now, I suggest you set 
the vacancy field for your account on http://db.debian.org

hope to see you active again

[]s!

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Re: MIA maintainer and NMU of package

[Raphael Hertzog]

Le Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 05:45:17AM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva écrivait:
> Hello Alex,
> 
> happy to see you're alive ;)... if your time is really limited and
> you cannot/doesn't want to work for Debian now, I suggest you set 
> the vacancy field for your account on http://db.debian.org

What a strange suggestion ... he'd better orphan the packages he doesn't
use/maintain anymore. The vacancy field should be used just for short
period during which you won't be able to do your Debian work.

Cheers,
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Re: Bugs that need help

[Tille, Andreas]

On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Martin Michlmayr wrote:

> http://qa.debian.org/bts-help.html57
> http://qa.debian.org/bts-security.html50
> http://qa.debian.org/bts-unreproducible.html 260
How to tag a bug right to get it listed here.  I would like to
tag #66190 for help.  I just rebuilded the package und would
like to upload.  My version works on i386 and Sparc.
(I just reported this problem on QA-list under subject "TreeTool".)

Kind regards

  Andreas.

Bugs 93814 and 123748

[Tille, Andreas]

Hello,

quoting you from

 http://bugs.debian.org/93814

Received: (at 93814) by bugs.debian.org; 20 Aug 2001 22:21:47 +
...
> This work is nearing completion, within a few weeks I'll have it finished.

I think some weeks were over now.  What about this package?


Regarding

 http://bugs.debian.org/kissme

Those bugs seem to be very easy to fix.  Should I NMU if you have
some time constraints?
(I would not really love to NMU your own upstream package but
 perhaps you have no time to care about it and you would want me to
 do that.)

Kind regards

Andreas.

Re: Bugs 93814 and 123748

[John Leuner]

> Hello,
> 
> quoting you from
> 
>  http://bugs.debian.org/93814
> 
> Received: (at 93814) by bugs.debian.org; 20 Aug 2001 22:21:47 +
> ...
> > This work is nearing completion, within a few weeks I'll have it finished.
> 
> I think some weeks were over now.  What about this package?

I haven't completed that work to my satisfaction. The biggest issue here is the 
lack of free graphics libraries for Java on debian. 

I think for now it would be best to remove jflash from debian, I can submit it 
again when I have something usable and free. What is the process for doing that?


> Regarding
> 
>  http://bugs.debian.org/kissme
> 
> Those bugs seem to be very easy to fix.  Should I NMU if you have
> some time constraints?
> (I would not really love to NMU your own upstream package but
>  perhaps you have no time to care about it and you would want me to
>  do that.)

I made a mistake when I uploaded fixes for that last year and my package was 
rejected (I'm not sure what I did wrong). I will create a new package in the 
next few days.

John Leuner

Re: Bugs that need help

[Josip Rodin]

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:39:12AM +0100, Tille, Andreas wrote:
> > http://qa.debian.org/bts-help.html57
> > http://qa.debian.org/bts-security.html50
> > http://qa.debian.org/bts-unreproducible.html 260
> How to tag a bug right to get it listed here.  I would like to
> tag #66190 for help.

http://www.de.debian.org/Bugs/server-control

   tags bugnumber [ + | - | = ] tag
   Sets a particular tag for the bug report #bugnumber to tag. No
   notification is sent to the user who reported the bug. + means
   adding, - means subtracting, and = means ignoring the current tags
   and setting them afresh. The default action is adding. A space is
   required between the +/-/= character and the tag name.

   Available tags currently include patch, wontfix, moreinfo,
   unreproducible, help, pending, fixed, security, upstream, potato,
   woody and sid.

   For their meanings please consult the general developers'
   documentation for the bug system.

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Mico-2.3.5 bug #104701

[Tille, Andreas]

Hello,

you gave a hint how to fix 104701 at

   http://bugs.debian.org/104701

I do not know anything about mico-2.3.5 but I would care about an
NMU if you would provide a patch for the problem.  I just do not want
to guess what is the right solution and can't test it.

Moreover I would like to fix the missing upstream URL in debian/copyright
   http://www.mico.org/

Perhaps someone could checked if the new upstream version 2.3.6.
Would fix all issues.

In short I would love if someone who uses mico actively would fix the
package and NMU it.  If there would be patches I would care about the
NMU if Stephen does not insist.

Kind regards

  Andreas.

Netmaze: Bug #123741

[Tille, Andreas]

Hi,

the open bugs of netmaze seem to be easy to fix.  At least the RC bug
should be considered to be target to fix soon.  Would you care about
it? Should someone step in?

Further problem of the package:  There is no upstream URL in debian/copyright.
A quick search showed at least
  ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/games/multiplayer/mazewars/netmaze-0.81.tgz
If you know the real upstream URL please include it in the package.

Please tell me if you have time constraints and I should prepare a NMU.

Kind regards

 Andreas.

Re: When should the BTS help tag be used?

[David Schmitt]

On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:17:25PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> This is available on http://qa.debian.org now for bugs tagged help,
> security and unreproducible.  Thanks to Torsten for adding the feature
> to search for tags (keywords) to the BTS LDAP interface.
> 
> Anything else we need?

Just a bit brainstorming:

1) Sortable by age/severity, to help finding packages which should be
   NMU'd
2) 'patch'-tagged bugs: Interested parties can try those patches and
   report success/problems. See 1)
3) Hide 'upstream' bugs. Supposedly, they are worked on by someone
   outside of Debian.
4) View 'upstream' bugs. Check whether they are already fixed upstream.
5) BTW why isn't there a 'build' tag? I see quite a few build-related
   help-tagged bugs on bts-help: 



Regards, David
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Re: When should the BTS help tag be used?

[Josip Rodin]

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 03:21:57PM +0100, David Schmitt wrote:
> 3) Hide 'upstream' bugs. Supposedly, they are worked on by someone
>outside of Debian.
> 4) View 'upstream' bugs. Check whether they are already fixed upstream.

This upstream tag is hopeless... I have like fifty upstream bugs and I
really can't be bothered to tag them all that way...

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Re: Mico-2.3.5 bug #104701

[Stephen Crowley]

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 02:47:02PM +0100, Tille, Andreas wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> you gave a hint how to fix 104701 at
> 
>http://bugs.debian.org/104701
> 
> I do not know anything about mico-2.3.5 but I would care about an
> NMU if you would provide a patch for the problem.  I just do not want
> to guess what is the right solution and can't test it.
> 
> Moreover I would like to fix the missing upstream URL in debian/copyright
>http://www.mico.org/
> 
> Perhaps someone could checked if the new upstream version 2.3.6.
> Would fix all issues.
> 
> In short I would love if someone who uses mico actively would fix the
> package and NMU it.  If there would be patches I would care about the
> NMU if Stephen does not insist.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>   Andreas.


Please.. go ahead.. I don't really have time/patience to maintain mico
anymore. There are numerous upstream issues, mainly the library naming issue
that upstream refuses to fix. In fact I don't know if anything actually uses
this pacakge any more.. maybe it can just be removed?

-- 
Stephen

Re: MIA maintainer and NMU of package

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:23:54 +0100
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Le Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 05:45:17AM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva écrivait:
> > Hello Alex,
> > 
> > happy to see you're alive ;)... if your time is really limited and
> > you cannot/doesn't want to work for Debian now, I suggest you set 
> > the vacancy field for your account on http://db.debian.org
> 
> What a strange suggestion ... he'd better orphan the packages he doesn't
> use/maintain anymore. The vacancy field should be used just for short
> period during which you won't be able to do your Debian work.
I thought that had been already done... but yes... it has to be done...
I think a "limited time by now" message may help on the Developer's
db.

thanks for reminding

[]s!

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Re: When should the BTS help tag be used?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 03:21:57PM +0100, David Schmitt wrote:
> 3) Hide 'upstream' bugs. Supposedly, they are worked on by someone
>outside of Debian.

Let's not exclude these - they need to be fixed in Debian, either way,
and it's often easier to get a Debian maintainer to do something about
it than it is to get upstream to produce a new release.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Issue tracking

[Matthew Bell]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:18:23 +
"Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 11:13:42AM +, Matthew Bell wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:12:45 -0600
> > "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 07:35:23PM +, Matthew Bell wrote:
> > > > Just a quick thought: there has been talk of re-organizing QA section
> > > > with task tracking/management, and an automated system sprung to mind?
> > > > I saw issuetraq at tigris.org thought it might be worth looking into?
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure I see what's wrong with using the qa.debian.org entry in
> > > the normal Debian bug tracking system for this. It's almost never been
> > > used, but that doesn't mean we can't start.
> > 
> > Ok fair enough, how about using qa as a stepping stone to
> > implementingg full issue tracking for debian?
> > (/me gets all ambitous)
> 
> Don't we already have that by means of the bug tracking system? We use
> that for enhancements as well as bugs, and we track bugs and feature
> requests in the infrastructure as well as the software using it. 
> I guess I don't understand what "issue tracking" buys us over the
> structure we already have.


Ah well, I was going more for the project management point of view with issue 
tracking as a starting point. I figured it might help a large distributed 
project like Debian, and indeed you probably can already do this via the BTS, 
but then you can manage e-mailing lists by hand, or even search databases by 
hand too (ok, I'm pushing the metaphors ;). Anyway, I'm busy working on 
JabberStudio now, so if my ideas are useful, use them! Or don't as the case may 
be ;)

> -- 
> Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Matthew Bell

Re: Netmaze: Bug #123741

[John Goerzen]

"Tille, Andreas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> the open bugs of netmaze seem to be easy to fix.  At least the RC bug
> should be considered to be target to fix soon.  Would you care about
> it? Should someone step in?

Just s/ComplexProgramTarget/ComplexProgramTargetNoMan/ does not do the
trick.  In fact, it makes things break more.  The manual says that it
should only be used in Imakefiles tha tdescribe a single program --
that is not the case here.

I'd maintain this is a case of breakage in X.

> Further problem of the package:  There is no upstream URL in debian/copyright.

That's because there is no upstream.  All changes since 0.81 have been
made by me (and I've done some significant changes.)  Upstream stopped
maintaining it about 7 years ago.

> Please tell me if you have time constraints and I should prepare a
NMU.

If you have a patch for the Imakefile problem, please send it directly
to me and I will be happy to apply it and make a new release.  I am
not an imake expert and I don't know how to solve this problem.

-- John

Bug#131783: marked as done (qa.debian.org: use html anchors in update_excuses.html)

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Package: qa.debian.org
Version: N/A; reported 2002-02-01
Severity: wishlist

I'm not sure this is the right place to report it, but to me, update_excuses
is part of QA.

I'd like to see  tags in update_excuses.html, so one can
link directly to a particular package's excuses -- saves having to search
for them.

Thanks

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On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 07:18:14PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> This really belongs over here, I think.  However, is there a BTS place
> for pseudo-bugs in testing?

How about you just close it?

amp (0.7.6-7 to 0.7.6-8)

Maintainer: Fredrik Hallenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
80 days old (needed 10 days)
out of date on arm: amp (from 0.7.6-7)
out of date on ia64: amp (from 0.7.6-7)
out of date on powerpc: amp (from 0.7.6-7)
out of date on sparc: amp (from 0.7.6-7)
Not considered


Even better, how about I do it?

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Re: Bug#131783: marked as done (qa.debian.org: use html anchors in update_excuses.html)

[Josip Rodin]

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 08:03:05PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> amp (0.7.6-7 to 0.7.6-8)

That should be "amp (0.7.6-7 to 0.7.6-8)", because the
anchor tag shouldn't be empty.

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Re: MIA maintainer and NMU of package

[Alex Shinn]

> "Raphael" == Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Raphael> I did not contact the maintainer, btw, don't know if it
Raphael> would make things better, anyway...

Raphael> I cced him, we'll see what he has to say. Alex, are you
Raphael> still active ?  Would you mind if someone else took over
Raphael> the maintenance of gnu-smalltalk ?

Silly Gnus, tucked away the mail into my debian.qa folder and deleted
the CC duplicate.  Sorry, just now reading this.

Why yes, yes I am quite MIA, aren't I?  Between time limitations (I've
recently moved to a new country where I don't quite speak the language),
and the fact that I don't myself ever use gnu-smalltalk any more, I
think it best if someone else take over.  I had email from one or two
people who might be interested in taking over, I'll get back in touch
with them.

-- 
Alex