Re: DEP 8: Gathering Django usage analytics

2016-11-09 Thread Nicolas Chauvat
Hi List,

On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 04:32:46PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> If Django implements usage analytics, I would strongly suggest to make it
> "opt-in" in Debian, just as popcon, not "opt-out".

FWIW as a long-time Debian user and supporter, I expect every piece of
software I install *not* to report any information about anything on
my system without my explicit consent.

I am concerned about my online privacy: on my systems even popcon
is not enabled and in my browser the CookieMonster and PrivacyBadger
extensions are enabled.

I would have no problem with Debian packages providing the bits of
code that would allow other Debian users to turn on a switch to
opt-in on providing upstream with valuable usage data.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

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Re: Problems upgrading r-cran-fastcluster due to failed test in Python module

2016-11-09 Thread Gard Spreemann
On Tuesday, 8 November 2016 18:38:22 CET Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tried to upgrade r-cran-fastcluster[1] which also created Python
> modules thanks to Gard Spreemann).  Unfortunately the unit test of the
> new version fails with […]
> 


Hi all,

I tried building on Stretch with the latest upstream (1.1.21) and the
Debian changes from your SVN [1]. Weirdly enough, I don't see any
errors, and the package builds nicely with all tests running and
passing.

Could there be some weirdly set environment variable or something that
causes the vectortest module (shipped by upstream) not to be found?

Let me know if I can be of assistance.

[1] svn://anonscm.debian.org/debian-med/trunk/packages/R/r-cran-fastcluster/
trunk/


 Best,
  Gard



replacement for ipython(3)-notebook?

2016-11-09 Thread Zack Weinberg
ipython(3)-notebook has been dropped from unstable with the transition
to ipython 5.0.0.  What package now provides this functionality?

zw



Re: replacement for ipython(3)-notebook?

2016-11-09 Thread Julien Puydt

Hi,

On 09/11/2016 16:24, Zack Weinberg wrote:

ipython(3)-notebook has been dropped from unstable with the transition
to ipython 5.0.0.  What package now provides this functionality?


Gordon Ball is working on packaging jupyter-notebook.

It's part of the effort to package sagemath in Debian -- the discussion 
happens mostly on the debian-science-sagemath mailing-list.


Snark on #debian-python



Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs

2016-11-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/07/2016 04:21 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Monday, November 07, 2016 10:08:25 AM Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On Nov 07, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>>> So, I don't agree with you, and believe that gradually using
>>> #!/usr/bin/python2 is a good approach to the transition. IMO, that's
>>> what we should start doing as much as possible.
>>>
>>> If the dependencies for Python itself aren't calculated well with that
>>> shebang, then we should address that to make it right regardless of this
>>> choice.
>>
>> Clearly we won't do anything for Stretch, but we should consider this for
>> Buster.
> 
> I think Thomas' point is valid for upstream work, but it's just wasted effort 
> in Debian.
> 
> Scott K

The point is, some people also use venvs. In a world of Python 3 only,
some upstream will continue to use /usr/bin/python (IMO, rightly). We
should be able to provide a default implementation for these scripts.

Probably the use of update-alternatives, with carefully crafted
priorities, is the way to go (ie: provide /usr/bin/python as python2
with higher priority, but let Python 3 also provide /usr/bin/python if
Python 2 isn't installed).

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)



Re: Problems upgrading r-cran-fastcluster due to failed test in Python module

2016-11-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Gard,

thanks for trying to track down the issue.

On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 03:26:04PM +0100, Gard Spreemann wrote:
> On Tuesday, 8 November 2016 18:38:22 CET Andreas Tille wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I tried to upgrade r-cran-fastcluster[1] which also created Python
> > modules thanks to Gard Spreemann).  Unfortunately the unit test of the
> > new version fails with […]
> Hi all,
> 
> I tried building on Stretch with the latest upstream (1.1.21) and the
> Debian changes from your SVN [1]. Weirdly enough, I don't see any
> errors, and the package builds nicely with all tests running and
> passing.

I can confirm when running *debuild* on a testing system the package
builds nicely also at my side.
 
> Could there be some weirdly set environment variable or something that
> causes the vectortest module (shipped by upstream) not to be found?

I do not think so.  Could you possibly try in a pbuilder sid chroot
whether you might be able to reproduce the issue?
 
> Let me know if I can be of assistance.

I think it makes a difference whether it is sid or testing or may be the
difference is if its on the running system or in a chroot environment.
The latter might be a hint that some Build-Dependency is missing which
is by chance installed on the local machine ... but which one?

Kind regards

 Andreas.
 
> [1] svn://anonscm.debian.org/debian-med/trunk/packages/R/r-cran-fastcluster/
> trunk/

-- 
http://fam-tille.de



Re: replacement for ipython(3)-notebook?

2016-11-09 Thread Gordon Ball
On 09/11/16 16:49, Julien Puydt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 09/11/2016 16:24, Zack Weinberg wrote:
>> ipython(3)-notebook has been dropped from unstable with the transition
>> to ipython 5.0.0.  What package now provides this functionality?
> 
> Gordon Ball is working on packaging jupyter-notebook.
> 
> It's part of the effort to package sagemath in Debian -- the discussion
> happens mostly on the debian-science-sagemath mailing-list.
> 
> Snark on #debian-python
> 

Indeed.

The package name will be jupyter-notebook. It will hopefully be uploaded
soon (one or two minor issues still to fix), but you can find the
packaging at [1] if you want to build it yourself in the meanwhile.

There isn't a direct replacement for the python and python3 versions -
after the jupyter <-> ipython split you should also install
python(3)-ipykernel to support running python or python3 in the notebook.

Gordon

[1]:
https://anonscm.debian.org/git/python-modules/packages/jupyter-notebook.git



Re: Problems upgrading r-cran-fastcluster due to failed test in Python module

2016-11-09 Thread Gard Spreemann
Hi Andreas,

On Wednesday, 9 November 2016 17:08:01 CET Andreas Tille wrote:
> I do not think so.  Could you possibly try in a pbuilder sid chroot
> whether you might be able to reproduce the issue?
>

In fact, it fails in the same way both in a Sid pbuilder and in a
Stretch pbuilder, but not on my ordinary Stretch system.

> > Let me know if I can be of assistance.
> 
> I think it makes a difference whether it is sid or testing or may be the
> difference is if its on the running system or in a chroot environment.
> The latter might be a hint that some Build-Dependency is missing which
> is by chance installed on the local machine ... but which one?
>

The latter definitely seems to be the case. Hopefully I'll have more
time to investigate on Friday.


 Best,
  Gard



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Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs

2016-11-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:02 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:

> The point is, some people also use venvs. In a world of Python 3 only,
> some upstream will continue to use /usr/bin/python (IMO, rightly). We
> should be able to provide a default implementation for these scripts.

I think this is a bug in virtualenv:

$ virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python3 test
Already using interpreter /usr/bin/python3
Using base prefix '/usr'
New python executable in /home/pabs/test/bin/python3
Also creating executable in /home/pabs/test/bin/python
Installing setuptools, pkg_resources, pip, wheel...done.
$ virtualenv -p python3 test
Already using interpreter /usr/bin/python3
Using base prefix '/usr'
New python executable in /home/pabs/test/bin/python3
Also creating executable in /home/pabs/test/bin/python
Installing setuptools, pkg_resources, pip, wheel...done.

-- 
bye,
pabs

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