Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Lars Wirzenius]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:19:12AM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> AFAIK Matthew Garrett hasn't been "active and directly involved
> participant in the Debian development community" for years. What is
> the reason for keeping his blog on planet.d.o?

Matthew has been blogging frequently over the several past years,
and aggregated on Planet Debian.  He has, for example, written a lot
about UEFI and Secure Boot, and the different ways in which Linux and
distributions can handle them. You said nothing then.

Now, when he blogs about what Ted Ts'o has said about rape, you react.
This sounds an awful lot like you want to remove Matthew from Planet
Debian because of his opinions on that issue.

It is true that Matthew does not necessarily fill the criteria for being
on Planet Debian, in the strictest interpretation. However, if we remove
him right now, it sends a very clear signal that this is a forbidden issue
in Debian, and, as a result, that women's rights aren't welcome anymore.

I don't find that acceptable. I would find it extremely unfortunate if
we removed Matthew from Planet Debian right now.

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Domenico Andreoli]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 09:45:59AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:19:12AM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> > AFAIK Matthew Garrett hasn't been "active and directly involved
> > participant in the Debian development community" for years. What is
> > the reason for keeping his blog on planet.d.o?
...
> 
> It is true that Matthew does not necessarily fill the criteria for being
> on Planet Debian, in the strictest interpretation. However, if we remove
> him right now, it sends a very clear signal that this is a forbidden issue
> in Debian, and, as a result, that women's rights aren't welcome anymore.
> 
> I don't find that acceptable. I would find it extremely unfortunate if
> we removed Matthew from Planet Debian right now.

I agree.

Regards,
Domenico


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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Piotr Ożarowski]

[Lars Wirzenius, 2012-10-30]
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:19:12AM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> > AFAIK Matthew Garrett hasn't been "active and directly involved
> > participant in the Debian development community" for years. What is
> > the reason for keeping his blog on planet.d.o?
> 
> Matthew has been blogging frequently over the several past years,
> and aggregated on Planet Debian.  He has, for example, written a lot
> about UEFI and Secure Boot, and the different ways in which Linux and
> distributions can handle them. You said nothing then.
> 
> Now, when he blogs about what Ted Ts'o has said about rape, you react.
> This sounds an awful lot like you want to remove Matthew from Planet
> Debian because of his opinions on that issue.
 
> It is true that Matthew does not necessarily fill the criteria for being
> on Planet Debian, in the strictest interpretation. However, if we remove
> him right now, it sends a very clear signal that this is a forbidden issue
> in Debian, and, as a result, that women's rights aren't welcome anymore.
> 
> I don't find that acceptable. I would find it extremely unfortunate if
> we removed Matthew from Planet Debian right now.

[/me who likes reading Matthew's blog posts about UEFI/Restricted boot]

I guess "Fedora" tag was added to this post by mistake, but it doesn't
matter that much since... plandet.debian.org is subscribed to all
blog posts. We could ask Matthew to add "Linux" tag to blog posts that he
considers worth including on Debian planet and subscribe only those.

On a more general note: I find it a bit rude to feed planet FOO with
content not related to FOO. It's not that bad on planet.debian.org
compared to other planets, but it could be better. I'd volunteer to go
through all feed URLs and add missing tags/categories but I'm afraid the
"I like to read about personal life of people related to FOO" lobby is
too loud. If filtering such planets takes too much of my time, I
usually simply unsubscribe it.
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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Paul Wise]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:

> On a more general note: I find it a bit rude to feed planet FOO with
> content not related to FOO. It's not that bad on planet.debian.org
> compared to other planets, but it could be better. I'd volunteer to go
> through all feed URLs and add missing tags/categories but I'm afraid the
> "I like to read about personal life of people related to FOO" lobby is
> too loud. If filtering such planets takes too much of my time, I
> usually simply unsubscribe it.

Content unrelated to Debian is specifically acceptable on Planet Debian:

http://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian#What_Can_I_Post_On_Planet

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Piotr Ożarowski]

[Paul Wise, 2012-10-30]
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> 
> > On a more general note: I find it a bit rude to feed planet FOO with
> > content not related to FOO. It's not that bad on planet.debian.org
> > compared to other planets, but it could be better. I'd volunteer to go
> > through all feed URLs and add missing tags/categories but I'm afraid the
> > "I like to read about personal life of people related to FOO" lobby is
> > too loud. If filtering such planets takes too much of my time, I
> > usually simply unsubscribe it.
> 
> Content unrelated to Debian is specifically acceptable on Planet Debian:
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian#What_Can_I_Post_On_Planet

and this part is written in stone and we cannot change it?
Anyway, I don't care that much, as said before, planet.debian.org
doesn't need that much filtering so I'm still subscribed.
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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Ben Armstrong]

On 10/30/2012 08:05 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> [Paul Wise, 2012-10-30]
>> http://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian#What_Can_I_Post_On_Planet
> 
> and this part is written in stone and we cannot change it?

I doubt if you would find many supporters to change it.

> Anyway, I don't care that much, as said before, planet.debian.org
> doesn't need that much filtering so I'm still subscribed.

Fine, then please just drop it. Personally, I think the policy is quite
balanced and helps connect community members as people, not just as
whatever roles they fill within Debian.

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Neil McGovern]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:05:11PM +0100, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> [Paul Wise, 2012-10-30]
> > Content unrelated to Debian is specifically acceptable on Planet Debian:
> > 
> > http://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian#What_Can_I_Post_On_Planet
> 
> and this part is written in stone and we cannot change it?

Not without changing the purpose of planet.d.o, no.

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[MJ Ray]

Lars Wirzenius 
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:19:12AM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> > AFAIK Matthew Garrett hasn't been "active and directly involved
> > participant in the Debian development community" for years. What is
> > the reason for keeping his blog on planet.d.o?
[...]
> Now, when he blogs about what Ted Ts'o has said about rape, you react.
> This sounds an awful lot like you want to remove Matthew from Planet
> Debian because of his opinions on that issue.
> 
> It is true that Matthew does not necessarily fill the criteria for being
> on Planet Debian, in the strictest interpretation. However, if we remove
> him right now, it sends a very clear signal that this is a forbidden issue
> in Debian, and, as a result, that women's rights aren't welcome anymore.

So let's put the reason for removal clearly wherever such things are noted.

It may be an indirect consequence of writing about a hot topic, but it's
not the stated reason.  I feel we should take Jakub Wilk at his word and
not assign other motives without more justification.

Now I'll go read the blog post Lars mentions... back in a mo...

OK, well, actually, it's in a Linux-related context, but I think it's
not itself especially a women's rights issue as mjg59's blog presents
it (it would apply to a wide range of sexual violence), so I think
raising the spectre of "women's rights aren't welcome anymore" is a
bit unhelpful in a few ways... not least because it suggests that
women have different rights - but don't we support equality?

But personally, I'd leave mjg59's blog on planet - he's an
ex-developer writing about things of continuing interest and relevance
to the project that are probably good for us to know about.  The
"active and directly involved participant in the Debian development
community" isn't the same as "current debian developers".

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Jakub Wilk]

* Lars Wirzenius , 2012-10-30, 09:45:
AFAIK Matthew Garrett hasn't been "active and directly involved 
participant in the Debian development community" for years. What is 
the reason for keeping his blog on planet.d.o?
Matthew has been blogging frequently over the several past years, and 
aggregated on Planet Debian.  He has, for example, written a lot about 
UEFI and Secure Boot, and the different ways in which Linux and 
distributions can handle them. You said nothing then.


Now, when he blogs about what Ted Ts'o has said about rape, you react. 
This sounds an awful lot like you want to remove Matthew from Planet 
Debian because of his opinions on that issue.


You guessed (almost) right.

I am fine with active Debian contributors blogging about "women's 
rights". I also occassionally enjoy a high-quality technical posts written 
by an outsider. I can normally even stand when outsiders blog about 
non-technical matters. However, I do not wish that Planet Debian 
syndicates posts that denigrate Debian developers.


Normally I would just ask the blogger to stop feeding Planet with the 
offensive content, but in this case I see no reason to have this blog 
included in the first place.


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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Thijs Kinkhorst]

On Tue, October 30, 2012 12:38, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Lars Wirzenius , 2012-10-30, 09:45:
>>>AFAIK Matthew Garrett hasn't been "active and directly involved
>>>participant in the Debian development community" for years. What is
>>>the reason for keeping his blog on planet.d.o?
>>Matthew has been blogging frequently over the several past years, and
>>aggregated on Planet Debian.  He has, for example, written a lot about
>>UEFI and Secure Boot, and the different ways in which Linux and
>>distributions can handle them. You said nothing then.
>>
>>Now, when he blogs about what Ted Ts'o has said about rape, you react.
>>This sounds an awful lot like you want to remove Matthew from Planet
>>Debian because of his opinions on that issue.
>
> You guessed (almost) right.
>
> I am fine with active Debian contributors blogging about "women's
> rights". I also occassionally enjoy a high-quality technical posts written
> by an outsider. I can normally even stand when outsiders blog about
> non-technical matters. However, I do not wish that Planet Debian
> syndicates posts that denigrate Debian developers.

Matthews blog post at hand is to me in very bad taste. From time to time I
see blog posts from DD's in bad taste, even specifically when relating to
Debian or indivual developers. Whether someone can exercise good taste,
obviously subjective matter, in writing blog posts is not a selection
criterion for Planet Debian. And rightly so. Blogs are the perfect place
to put content of a highly personal nature. It's clear to everyone that
such posts are not endorsed by anyone but the author. I see no problem
here to solve.


Cheers,
Thijs


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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Ian Jackson]

Jakub Wilk writes ("mjg59's blog on planet.d.o"):
> AFAIK Matthew Garrett hasn't been "active and directly involved 
> participant in the Debian development community" for years. What is the 
> reason for keeping his blog on planet.d.o?

I have just gone to read the background to this.  You are apparently
upset that Matthew has been pointing out, and criticising, some pretty
appalling rape apologiae.

I entirely agree with Matthew's comments.  It would be a sad day if
they led to his very interesting blog being pulled from planet.

Ted Ts'o should be ashamed of himself.

As for describing Matthew's comments as "denigrating" Ted, I think
calling Ted a "rape apologist" is a simple statement of fact.  The
messages from Ted I have read are rape apologiae.  Someone who sends
rape apologiae is a rape apologist.

Ian.


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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Moray Allan]

On 2012-10-30 10:44, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:

I'd volunteer to go
through all feed URLs and add missing tags/categories but I'm afraid 
the
"I like to read about personal life of people related to FOO" lobby 
is

too loud.


This actually seems backwards to me.  Blog posts are not a good way to 
discuss serious issues relating to Debian, which are much better dealt 
with on mailing lists, where tracking a thread and replying to it works 
much better.  It is rather hard to follow discussions when they are 
spread over several people's blogs and in comments to the ones which 
allow them, and extremely time-consuming to attempt to reconstruct the 
thread of discussion a few weeks or months later, even if all the posts 
happen to be still online.  And of course you can never be sure if 
discussion has progressed further on a blog which you don't read 
yourself; when a single blog appears on multiple Planets it's quite 
common to see fragments of a discussion appear on it.


So I would suggest instead that material "unrelated to Debian", but 
from people within the broad community, is actually by far the best use 
for Planet Debian, and that the more relevant posts are to Debian, the 
less appropriate they are for Planet.


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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Russ Allbery]

Moray Allan  writes:

> So I would suggest instead that material "unrelated to Debian", but from
> people within the broad community, is actually by far the best use for
> Planet Debian, and that the more relevant posts are to Debian, the less
> appropriate they are for Planet.

Would people like me to push my entire blog to Planet Debian, including
all my book reviews and software release announcements?

Serious question.  I currently maintain a separate "debian" tag that only
gets posts that feel relevant to Debian because I was worried about
dumping too much content into Planet Debian, but I can undo that and give
Planet Debian a full feed if people would really prefer.

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Paul Tagliamonte]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:38:03PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Moray Allan  writes:
> 
> > So I would suggest instead that material "unrelated to Debian", but from
> > people within the broad community, is actually by far the best use for
> > Planet Debian, and that the more relevant posts are to Debian, the less
> > appropriate they are for Planet.
> 
> Would people like me to push my entire blog to Planet Debian, including
> all my book reviews and software release announcements?
> 
> Serious question.  I currently maintain a separate "debian" tag that only
> gets posts that feel relevant to Debian because I was worried about
> dumping too much content into Planet Debian, but I can undo that and give
> Planet Debian a full feed if people would really prefer.

I'd much prefer that, Russ.

It's nice to know people in a more personal way. We're also a community,
and the planet feed is a stream of the Debian community's lives. Reading
a blog feed of stuff I already read on mailing lists is lame :)

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Craig Small]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:38:03PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Would people like me to push my entire blog to Planet Debian, including
> all my book reviews and software release announcements?
As one who evenly enjoys the technical package type blog entries along
with lets call it "other stuff Debian people blog about" I'd say sure
why not.  I've done that in the past.

As a general comment, I'm happy with the general collection of entries
on planet.d.o Sure there might be the occasional one i don't agree with
but it is a seriously low level of entries.

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Joerg Jaspert]

On 13015 March 1977, Russ Allbery wrote:

>> So I would suggest instead that material "unrelated to Debian", but from
>> people within the broad community, is actually by far the best use for
>> Planet Debian, and that the more relevant posts are to Debian, the less
>> appropriate they are for Planet.
> Would people like me to push my entire blog to Planet Debian, including
> all my book reviews and software release announcements?

> Serious question.  I currently maintain a separate "debian" tag that only
> gets posts that feel relevant to Debian because I was worried about
> dumping too much content into Planet Debian, but I can undo that and give
> Planet Debian a full feed if people would really prefer.

In the (very) past there was someone posting a ton of "little" things of
various, entirely Debian unrelated, "entries". More like, "twitter" or
"facebook" style, than blogging, ie not even full written. Such a thing
isn't wanted, thats plain flooding. But full postings with basically any
(commonly accepted[1]) non-spam content, including non-Debian one, is fine.

Planet is a means to get to know more about people without attaching a
rfid chip and a surveillance camera to each DD. And if I want to know
what such a DD does in Debian - I have dozens of other services for that
already, so yeah, add more personal things to planet... :)


[1] sod it, im not running into that minefield of defining commonly
accepted here. :)

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Joerg Jaspert]

On 13015 March 1977, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> AFAIK Matthew Garrett hasn't been "active and directly involved
> participant in the Debian development community" for years. What is the
> reason for keeping his blog on planet.d.o?

Lots of interesting articles, which (more or less directly) touch
Debian.

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Moray Allan]

On 2012-10-30 20:38, Russ Allbery wrote:
Would people like me to push my entire blog to Planet Debian, 
including

all my book reviews and software release announcements?


I would prefer that over only pushing articles specifically on Debian 
topics, yes.


For the specific categories you mention, I realise there are potential 
issues: dry factual release announcements for lots of minor versions of 
software someone doesn't use might be boring to see, and long reviews 
might be a UI annoyance for people reading Planet in a flat view in a 
browser.  But I don't think lack of relevance would be a barrier to 
including either category.


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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Russ Allbery]

Moray Allan  writes:

> For the specific categories you mention, I realise there are potential
> issues: dry factual release announcements for lots of minor versions of
> software someone doesn't use might be boring to see, and long reviews
> might be a UI annoyance for people reading Planet in a flat view in a
> browser.  But I don't think lack of relevance would be a barrier to
> including either category.

My reviews are pretty long -- I could probably modify the hand-rolled
software that generates the RSS feed to simulate a cut tag or something.
But, based on reactions, people seem to think I should send them, so I'm
going to go ahead and do that, and then see what feedback I get and if it
bothers anyone.

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Re: mjg59's blog on planet.d.o

[Joerg Jaspert]

On 13016 March 1977, Russ Allbery wrote:

> My reviews are pretty long -- I could probably modify the hand-rolled
> software that generates the RSS feed to simulate a cut tag or
> something.

Oh yuck, please don't. Such things are something like the worlds second
most stupid thing ever invented. :)

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