Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

2005-04-12 Thread MJ Ray
Anthony Towns wrote:
> [...] the torch
> is just taken up by Thomas and Joel and MJ Ray anyway and the
> accusations of working against the project continue without abate.

As far as I can tell, I made no accusations and I dislike you
linking my name with them, especially given the nature of your
complaints. Do unto others as you would be done unto, please?


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Re: New policy for http://www.debian;org/consultants

2005-04-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2005-04-12 kello 00:20 +0200, Luk Claes kirjoitti:
> This is a proposal for Debian's consultants page. There are some 
> differences with the previous proposal: point 3 is new and the last 
> paragraph has changed.

Looks good to me, with the minor tweak in wording I suggest below.

> 2. Further contact information
> Every consultant may list other means of contact except the mandatory
> e-mail address.

"Except" does not sound good here, I would cut the sentence after
"contact": "Every consultant may list other means of contact.".


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Re: [Spi-trademark] Re: debian domains

2005-04-12 Thread Gregory Pomerantz

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/01/2005
11:46:25 AM:

> MJ,
> 
> I don't really know myself what the procedures are, but I'm CCing
the
> trademark list on this for their feedback.
> 
> -- John
> 
> On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 05:11:30PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> > SPI board members,
> > 
> > The debian project leader recently reported problems with the
> > debiangnulinux.com and .net domains to the debian-project
> > mailing list.
> > 
> > What is the current advice on chasing down "bad faith"
> > registrations including the debian trademark? Can any SPI
> > contributing member help, and does SPI have any organised
> > way to do it? I didn't find this on the SPI or debian
> > trademark pages.
> > 
> > It looks like anyone affected can trigger some domain dispute
> > procedures. I can't send a strong cease-and-desist myself. I'll
> > send one to a dubious debian domain holder next week if not
> > persuaded otherwise and try to start dispute processes later.
 
There is no one best approach to domain name problems, because there are
many competing jurisdictions in which to resolve these disputes.  Most
of the issues we have dealt with so far have involved domain names registered
in country code TLDs that do not follow the UDRP procedures, and I have
recommended in those cases that SPI find local pro bono counsel in the
country in which the domain is located.  However, where UDRP is available,
a cease and desist letter followed by arbitration is usually the most efficient
and inexpensive option.  If you forward me the the information about
the disputed domain and the relevant correspondence, I will take a look.

Best regards,
Greg


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I'll be a son of a bitch.

2005-04-12 Thread Ean Schuessler
I don't understand it and I'm not happy about it but I accept it. A market 
almost always makes better decisions than an individual. If the majority of 
the Debian project doesn't carry a grudge about the SPI accounting mishap 
then I guess I can't either.

I officially bury the hatchet, smoke'em peace pipe and extend the olive 
branch.

Branden, congratulations on your election and good luck as DPL.

~Ean

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Re: [Spi-trademark] Re: debian domains

2005-04-12 Thread MJ Ray
Greg wrote:
> If you forward me the the information about
> the disputed domain and the relevant correspondence, I will take a look.

Thanks to Greg for the reply.

Will the outgoing DPL do this for the domains which triggered this
enquiry, please? It seems like it's a simple update to the summary
posted to debian-project with copies of any original emails.

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Re: feedback, please: what was good, what bad?

2005-04-12 Thread MJ Ray
Andreas Schuldei,

I've heard both grumbles and praise from people who have worked
on things with you. On the whole, I liked the sound of most of
your ideas and think they could move debian on. I was slightly
disappointed with proportion of -vote emails answered and a weak
showing in the IRC debate. I'm not sure how clearly your ideas
were expressed to people who hadn't seen similar things before.

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Re: non-free but distributable packages and kernel firmware

2005-04-12 Thread MJ Ray
aj wrote:
> Henning Makholm wrote:
> >modified-noncommercial-redistribution
> nonprofit-mod-dist
> 
> >unmodified-noncommercial-redistribution
> nonprofit-dist

Those two are not direct equivalents.

I also think use of any fsf- or osi- tags should be clearly
very tightly linked to their licence lists, as in "licence
appears on ... and has no clarifications".

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Re: feedback, please: what was good, what bad?

2005-04-12 Thread Ean Schuessler
On Tuesday 12 April 2005 4:16 pm, MJ Ray wrote:
> I've heard both grumbles and praise from people who have worked
> on things with you. On the whole, I liked the sound of most of
> your ideas and think they could move debian on. I was slightly
> disappointed with proportion of -vote emails answered and a weak
> showing in the IRC debate. I'm not sure how clearly your ideas
> were expressed to people who hadn't seen similar things before.

I haven't said anything about this because I didn't want to look stupid (as if 
that ever stops me from doing anything) but I never received my ballot. I 
even did the "Leader 2005" subject thing (or whatever) to request a resend. I 
was convinced that it was my spam filtering or some nonsense but I still 
can't find it. I'm at a loss.

I'm pretty much 100% sure that this is a problem on my end but now my 
curiosity is piqued.

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Re: feedback, please: what was good, what bad?

2005-04-12 Thread Pascal Hakim
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 18:46 -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 April 2005 4:16 pm, MJ Ray wrote:
> > I've heard both grumbles and praise from people who have worked
> > on things with you. On the whole, I liked the sound of most of
> > your ideas and think they could move debian on. I was slightly
> > disappointed with proportion of -vote emails answered and a weak
> > showing in the IRC debate. I'm not sure how clearly your ideas
> > were expressed to people who hadn't seen similar things before.
> 
> I haven't said anything about this because I didn't want to look stupid (as 
> if 
> that ever stops me from doing anything) but I never received my ballot. I 
> even did the "Leader 2005" subject thing (or whatever) to request a resend. I 
> was convinced that it was my spam filtering or some nonsense but I still 
> can't find it. I'm at a loss.
> 
> I'm pretty much 100% sure that this is a problem on my end but now my 
> curiosity is piqued.

I can't tell you much about the leader 2005 thing, but the ballot is
normally sent out on debian-devel-announce and debian-vote, so you
should have received it there.

If you didn't get it there, you can still get a copy of the ballot for
the archives (if you can vote, you can fish it out of the archives on
master:~debian/). Alternatively, there's other places that archive our
lists that will probably give you a working ballot (ie, gmane and so
on).

As a last resort, you can probably copy-paste the ballot from somewhere
like: http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/04/msg00022.html

I'm guessing that'd work too.

Cheers,

Pasc


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Re: feedback, please: what was good, what bad?

2005-04-12 Thread Ean Schuessler
On Tuesday 12 April 2005 7:53 pm, Pascal Hakim wrote:
> As a last resort, you can probably copy-paste the ballot from somewhere
> like: http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/04/msg00022.html

Can I really do that? I thought that the hex crypto salt thingy does something 
magical for authenticity.

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Re: feedback, please: what was good, what bad?

2005-04-12 Thread Pascal Hakim
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 19:17 -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 April 2005 7:53 pm, Pascal Hakim wrote:
> > As a last resort, you can probably copy-paste the ballot from somewhere
> > like: http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/04/msg00022.html
> 
> Can I really do that? I thought that the hex crypto salt thingy does 
> something 
> magical for authenticity.

As long as you keep everything between the lines marked do not delete,
it'll be fine.

I just confirmed this with Manoj, whitespace changes are ok as long as
you don't change newlines.

Cheers,

Pasc


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